1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Britney Spears's bizarre claim her 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: look alike her doppelganger is the one not her that 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: swerves into oncoming traffic onto a bike path as well, 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: and video that has now gone viral. This I mean 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: it's fears she is losing control. I'm Nancy Grace. This 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: with us. 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Pop Icon. 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: Britney Spears was spotted and enjoying a night out in Westley, California, 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 3: seeking a fun evening with friends. However, the evening took 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: a dramatic turn when paparazzi captured her in what appeared 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: to be a reckless act. 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: Is it real that looks like Britney Spears to me? 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: What happened? Listen? 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 4: Britney Spears behavior spiraling out of control and family seriously 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 4: considering nuclear option. An interview to put a stop to 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 4: the slide, as ex husband Kevin Fetterline releases book You 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 4: Thought You Knew About Fighting Brittany for his children. Britney 19 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 4: is captured on video at upscale restaurant Red Oh, looking sloppy, 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 4: her yellow top slipping off her shoulders, dropping items on 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 4: the floor. Unsteady on her feet and wobble's lifting her 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: glass as if to toast the entire restaurant. 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: Number one, I don't like it when mail reporters and 24 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: others describe women as looking sloppy. Somehow that's misogynistic. But 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: that's a whole other cannon worms. I'll get to in 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: a moment. Right now, I'm concerned about Britney Spears potentially 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: driving into oncoming traffic. Listen. 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: Leaving the restaurant, Britney struggles maintaining her balance as a 29 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: friend holds her hand and guiding her outside. Brittany gets 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: behind the wheel of her black BMW despite protests from 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: restaurant employees trying to prevent her from. 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: Driving, driving erradically, ignoring road signs, squealing her tires as 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: she makes a U turn against the posted no U 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 4: turn sign. Britney speeds away from the restaurant. She has 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: trouble maintaining her lane, swerving under the shoulder and crossing 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: the center line into oncoming traffic. 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: With us an all Star panel to make sense of 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: what we are learning tonight, straight out to Jessica Fan, 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: Senior investigative reporter, You has son, Jessica, what happened exactly. 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: I know Brittany is now saying that wasn't me. So 41 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: should I believe her or my lion eyes? That looks 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: like Brittany to me. Let's see the video again, while 43 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: Jessica's reporting. 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, sure does look like Brittany. I mean, I think 45 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: it's pretty She's pretty recognizable at this point in her life. 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 5: And unfortunately it's not for all the good reasons or 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 5: the right reasons. Brittany was at the restaurant, clearly having 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 5: a good time, partying it up, stumbling around, she was 49 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 5: raising a glass at the restaurant, and then we see 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 5: her actually getting into her car. And this is where 51 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 5: things get a little pretty scary and dicey, for not 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: only Brittany, but for anybody else it might be coming 53 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 5: into contact with her on the road to Flipsy. You 54 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 5: turn in front of the restaurant after exiting, and then 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 5: she continues to drive, and the paparazzi who are following her, 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 5: you can hear them kind of quietly saying keep your distance. 57 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 5: And I think that that's not only to not scare her, 58 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 5: but also for their own safety. She's driving down the road, 59 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 5: She's driving on a really dark roadway. The only lights 60 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 5: on in front of her are her own lights, and 61 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 5: she's crossing the middle line, and then she's swerving into 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 5: the shoulder, and at one point she actually almost ends 63 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 5: up in the dirt on the shoulder, which is super 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 5: scary because then she could have totally spun out. 65 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: At that point, we also. 66 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 5: See her actually not only in the central line, but 67 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 5: riding in the central line where oncoming traffic would be. 68 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 6: We also see her. 69 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 5: Riding down those reflector strips, and those reflector strips are 70 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 5: meant to alert the driver that there's danger, that they're 71 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 5: crossing into lanes that they shouldn't be in. And I 72 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 5: don't understand how she doesn't. She's not shaken, you know, 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 5: or made more aware of this. She seems to continue 74 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 5: to drive on those reflector bumps, despite despite being in them. 75 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 5: And it's just it's a really terrifying scene. And again, 76 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 5: just this isn't just Brittany who's in danger here. It's 77 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 5: anybody else that's on the road with her. 78 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: You know, I've covered and investigated and prosecuted vehicular homicides, 79 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: and it could be the result of anything. It could 80 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: be drunk driving, driving under the influence of drugs. It 81 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: could be distracted driving, texting while driving, looking in the 82 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: backseat while driving, putting on makeup while driving. I don't care. 83 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: Now Spears' camp has made a point to say that 84 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: was not her in the video and she was not drinking. 85 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: I would give that statement more credence if they just 86 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: said she wasn't drinking, because that is absolutely Britney Spears 87 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: in that video. There is her bizarre claim if anyone's 88 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: wondering to look alike, was not me? Dave Mack tell 89 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: me about the driving antics, the erratic driving in a 90 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: video that has now gone viral. What specifically happened with 91 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: the driving. 92 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 7: Nancy? 93 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: As she pulls out, there's a clearly marked sign saying 94 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 4: no U turn, which she just pulls a UI anyway 95 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: and then squeals her tires as if to pick up 96 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 4: speed even quicker. So she's already right off the bat, 97 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: going dangerous. But then she really has trouble maintaining her lane. 98 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: It's not just once or twice, it's constant. She is 99 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: never in the lane the way she's supposed to be, 100 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: and it's been pointed out as you watch the video, 101 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: it's darker. She seems to be the only car on 102 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: the road. But you know, if she hit that shoulder 103 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 4: and tried to overcorrect, you know what happens. The dirt 104 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: gets under the wheel, she loses control and we had 105 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: a mess. But she never is actually maintaining her lane. 106 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 4: She's constantly crossing the center line, which poses problems for 107 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 4: anybody because if she is that out of control, if 108 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: another car comes along at the wrong time, We're not 109 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: doing this story about her life going down the toilet. 110 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: We're actually going to be doing a story with her obituary. 111 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: The hit your homicide. That's not what we want for 112 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: Britney Spears. But let me ask you, Dave mac you've 113 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: never pulled a yui? Are you really going to go 114 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: on national TV and say that you've never done a 115 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: U turn? 116 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 4: Only pointing out that, hey, this is a woman who 117 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: is recognized. 118 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: Around the world. 119 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: Her ex husband has just released a book about his 120 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: life with her, and she acts like she's having to 121 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 4: run away from paparazzi, which she really isn't Nancy, When 122 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: you see the video, you know she's not surrounded with 123 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: just bulbs going off everywhere. She has no reason to 124 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: do something like that. But again, you know, it's you 125 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: got people watching your every move. This is this really 126 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: the image you want to put out there for everyone 127 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: in the entire world? 128 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: Okay, you know what dat did I ask you about 129 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: Britney Spears image? No, I asked you had you ever 130 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: pulled a giwie? And you kind of stuttered? So yes, 131 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: you have. Stuttering is a sign of lyne. Then you 132 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: go on about Fetterline. I don't want to hear about 133 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Federline. He's had his fifteen minutes if iman. That 134 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: was a long time ago when he married her, before 135 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: he started sucking her blood. Now, the minute child support ends, 136 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: he writes a tell all book trashing the mother of 137 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: his children. I think that's enoughset about him. So you're 138 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: talking about image. Let's go to a PR duru, Rob Shooter, 139 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: star of Naughty but Nice podcast. Rob has a brand 140 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: new book out called It Started with a Whisper and 141 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: it's selling out on Amazon. He has worked with Britney Spears. 142 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: So Rob, are we seeing Brittany the way we want 143 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: to see her or the way she really is? 144 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 7: I've known her for over twenty years. I worked in 145 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 7: a PR office handle Brittany. I've been on many red 146 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 7: carpets with Brittany, events with Brittany. I've been a photo 147 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 7: shoots with Britney Spears. She's always been a troubled young person, 148 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 7: and I think Britney hasn't changed so much in my opinion, 149 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 7: but rather the truth has come out. The image the 150 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 7: person that we were sold by the record company wasn't 151 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 7: the real Brittany. It was a more polished version, which 152 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 7: is often the case with celebrities. You hire publicists and 153 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 7: managers and agents to put forward an image, your view 154 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 7: that you want. But I don't think in all the 155 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 7: years I've worked as celebrities, have I seen somebody that 156 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 7: has been so different in reality than their public image. 157 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 7: Brittany hasn't changed. This is the real Brittany. Now are 158 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 7: finally all getting to see it. 159 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: Rob Shooter at PR Guru's side, stepping the question beautifully. Okay, 160 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: let's get to what's happening right now. Not Britney's image 161 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: and the damage to it, but is she spiraling out 162 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: of control? Is there another conservatorship on the horizon. We 163 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: also have her denial that this is her, Well it 164 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: is her, so, Rob Sheeter, Britney Spears claims the person 165 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: at the restaurant and driving is a doppleganger a look alike? 166 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: Is it? 167 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 7: This is Britney Spears. Brittany's had a long, really unfortunate 168 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 7: history with the truth, and often Britney can say things 169 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 7: and really believe it herself. Deep down, I'm sure she 170 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 7: knows what's really going on, but it does a lot 171 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 7: easier here to blame somebody else than to take any responsibility. 172 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 7: And even though Brittany has struggled deeply, this is just 173 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 7: another example of why Britney so desperately needs somebody to 174 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 7: step in. It's impossible for Brittany to admit the truth 175 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 7: to herself. In fact, I would argue. 176 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: She doesn't even believe his lyings. 177 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 7: She believes the liars. 178 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: Crime stores with Nancy Gray rob Sheeter. I would be 179 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: more willing to accept her camps claim that she hadn't 180 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: been drinking, but they couple that with saying that wasn't her. 181 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: In fact, Brittany said it herself that it was a 182 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: quote look alike. That's Britney Spears right there. So the 183 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: manager at the restaurant says she was not intoxicated, but 184 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: the video does show her on steady on her seat. 185 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: What do you think, yeah. 186 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 7: It doesn't matter. I think at the end of the 187 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 7: day here legally it might matter. But this is clearly 188 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 7: somebody that's out of control, and somebody was dangerous, not 189 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 7: just to herself but to other people, anybody else driving 190 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 7: like that in California or anywhere else. If they were stopped, 191 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 7: if they were spotted by the police, there would be 192 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 7: huge implications. And said, this video, I'm told is just 193 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 7: the tip of the iceberg. People that know Brittany, that 194 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 7: have worked with her, that have seen her out, have 195 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 7: always described this to me as a rat. This is 196 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 7: not somebody that is stable. And even though the manager 197 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 7: of the bar, the restaurants claims that they were not drinking, 198 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 7: Britain was not drinking. We've seen the video of this. 199 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 7: Clearly something going on. 200 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: Well, clearly you cannot prove a do UI without having 201 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: a blood test or an alcohol sobriety test or a 202 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: blow test where you blow into a breathalyzer test. So 203 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: we don't know. And if she did have one glass 204 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: of wine, that may not make her a do UI. 205 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: If it's combined with any sort of medication, then you've 206 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: got a whole another can of worms. We're talking to 207 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, host of Naughty but Nice podcast, author of 208 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: a hit novel It started with a whisper, and he 209 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: has worked with spears. You know, I'm very curious. Do 210 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: you believe Rob Shooter that there is any way her 211 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: family would now help her? Would they touch her with 212 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: a ten foot poll? After the way her father was vilified, 213 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: wrongly or rightfully regarding that draconian conservatorship that he was 214 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: in charge of with his daughter. Will the family help her? 215 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 8: Rob? 216 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 7: My reporting is the family won't touch this. They saw 217 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 7: what happened to Britney's father, who was crucified in the media, 218 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 7: in the press, the fans absolutely how did this man 219 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 7: for really save in his daughter's life? And so I 220 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 7: think we all have a lot of soul search in 221 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 7: thinking to do here. We all wanted Brittany to be free, 222 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 7: but without ever thinking about what does that actually look like? 223 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 7: What does that actually mean? And a free Brittany is 224 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 7: a very dangerous one and so it's clear she needs 225 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 7: some help. The problem is now is who's going to 226 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 7: provide that knowing what happens to the last person that did. 227 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 7: Her dad was crucified. She had a legal team beat 228 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 7: him up day after day after day. Nobody in the 229 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 7: family wants to go through that again. They all want 230 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 7: to help Brittany, but they're all scared, and I honestly 231 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,239 Speaker 7: I don't blame. 232 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: Them straight out to special guests joining us tonight. You 233 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: know him well as we all do, Perez Hilton. He 234 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: is a pop culture expert. He blogs. He's a columnist, 235 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: co host of the Perez Hilton podcast, author of TMI 236 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: My Life in Scandal, and a children's book, The Boy 237 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: with Pink Hair, and you can find him at Perez 238 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: Hilton dot com. Prez, it's great to see you again. 239 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us tonight. Thanks for having me, Perez. 240 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: Britney spears. You know I was at the forefront fighting 241 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: to free Britney, and as Oscar Will said, be careful 242 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: what you ask, my dear, for you will surely get it. 243 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: I still think it was right to get her out 244 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: from under the conservatorship, but there was no transition. She 245 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: went from total draconian control of her life too wild 246 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: and free and it is not working out. Tell me 247 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: about the latest incident, Perez. 248 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 6: Well, the very latest. 249 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: There's an update, since perhaps some of your viewers heard 250 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: that Britney. According to reports was seen driving erradically in 251 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: the Thousand Oaks area of Los Angeles, where she lives. 252 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: The paparazzi got her going to a local restaurant there and, 253 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: according to reports, having a glass of wine. However, we've 254 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: now heard from the manager of that restaurant, whom, according 255 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: to him, denies that Britney Spears was intoxicated. She was 256 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: not there by herself. She was accompanied by a female 257 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: friend and a fellow patron at the restaurant was the 258 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: one who bought Britney that drink, and she was very friendly. 259 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 6: Listen. 260 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: I know a lot about Britney Spears. I have a 261 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: lot of empathy for her. She's never been a good driver, 262 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: and you might ask yourself why is she even driving. 263 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 6: She does have a security team. 264 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: An entire detail, But for some reason, Brittany, while not 265 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: being the best driver, has always loved to drive. I 266 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: remember vividly before she was placed on that psychiatric hold, 267 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: her life was so chaotic leading up to that, she 268 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: would sometimes drive in her car after her kids were 269 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: already taken away from her, and she would just drive 270 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: around town for hours. There's something that she finds healing 271 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: about it, and thankfully nobody was hurt, and I can't 272 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: prove that she was drunker or incapacitated in any way. 273 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: I understand that going for long drives in your car 274 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: can be a source of freedom or independence because you're 275 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: totally in control. Pre Hilton, you have three amazing children, 276 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: right How would you like to see Britney Spears come 277 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: buryling the wrong way down the street at you with 278 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: your children in the back. Think about that for a moment. 279 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm not all hung up on did she drink the 280 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: glass of wine? Look in my world just because I 281 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: think somebody's DUI, I can't take that to a jerry. 282 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: I've got to have evidence proof. I've got to have 283 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: blood alcohol I've got to have a sobriety test. I've 284 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: got to have a blow test. If I don't have those, 285 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. If I can't prove it, it's not real. 286 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: What I can prove is that video for driving the 287 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: wrong way down the road control room. Can I see 288 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: the video of the Brittany look alike in the bar? 289 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: That's good video too, which Oh there you go. I'm 290 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: glad that guy behind her pulled over. Okay, right here, 291 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: pres Hilton, Should I believe you are my lion eyes 292 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: because she is totally toasting everybody with a big, fat drink. 293 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: So you're telling me she did not imbibe even though 294 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: she had a drink in her hand, or are you 295 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: telling me that's not Britney Spears. 296 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: What I am saying is I just wish healing for 297 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: Brittany and everybody. I have a lot of empathy not 298 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: just for her, but also for her children as well 299 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: as a victims as well. 300 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: Perez, I've known you a long time and I like you, 301 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: and I read what you right, and I'll listen to 302 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: your podcast. 303 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 6: Thank you. 304 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: I just asked you a direct question about driving the 305 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: wrong way down a highway at night into oncoming traffic, 306 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: and you said you wish for healing. Stop. 307 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 6: I did not answer the question. 308 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 2: And traffic, okay, I did watch the entire video, and 309 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: I did not see any traffic coming her way. Obviously 310 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: she was not driving as the law dictates. 311 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 6: But I think the. 312 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: Bigger picture is why we're here, why we're even talking 313 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: about Britney Spears. 314 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 6: It's clear that this young woman, well now she's in her. 315 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: Forties, but I think for so many of us, she's 316 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: still that little girl, and we feel like, Britney's a 317 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: part of our family and we're rooting for her and 318 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: we want her to. 319 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 6: Have a happy ending. 320 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: But I think unfortunately, she's only going to get better 321 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: if she wants to get. 322 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: Better, you know, Perez Hilton, I'm not quite sure why 323 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: my beloved control room is showing racy videos of Brittany 324 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: pushing her breast up. I want to talk there. You 325 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: go right there, that's like a going in. No, okay, Perez, 326 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: I know you can't see oncoming traffic, but would you 327 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: at least agree she's driving on the wrong side of 328 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: the road. 329 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: More than that she was driving erratically. I would say 330 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: she she was swerving. And this is nothing new. 331 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 6: As I shared with you, she's always been a bad driver. 332 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, put him back up for Pete's sake, Perez, 333 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: there's a big difference in a bad driver. A lot 334 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: of people are bad drivers, but ahead on collision on 335 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: the wrong side of the road. I've seen vehicular homicide 336 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: cases before where even with the jaws of life, you 337 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: can barely get the victim out of their vehicle through 338 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: no fault of their own. You said we're all rooting 339 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: for Brittany. I am too, do you know how much 340 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: hate mail I got for demanding that conservatorship end and 341 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: vilifying her father from making reportedly six million dollars off 342 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: that conservatorship. I did not think that was fair, working 343 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: her like a mule and everybody sucking on her like 344 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: a tick taking all the money. I thought that was wrong, 345 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: and it was wrong. But this is also wrong, bad 346 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: driver and vehicular homicide. 347 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 4: I agree. 348 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: My question, my question to you is what do you 349 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 2: think is the path forward? 350 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: What should happen? What would we know see? I was 351 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: asking you the questions, mister Hilton. I'm asking you the 352 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: question to say, you've worked with Brittany, You've known Brittany 353 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: for a long time, and I agree. She feels like 354 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: somebody in our family that we all grew up with. 355 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: We've been watching her shi she was on the Mickey 356 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: Mouse Show, I guess, and she's beautiful and wonderful and 357 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: amazingly talented. That does not excuse a potential head on collision. 358 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: And it hasn't happened yet, and this is the time 359 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: for action the family. Whitn't you agrees afraid to touch 360 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: her with a ten foot pole after the father was 361 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: vilified rightfully or wrongfully. So what is your experience with Britney? 362 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: Is there any way to get to her? 363 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I think the best way to get to her 364 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: is through her sons, who are adults now, Sean Preston 365 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: and Jaden James. They're nineteen and twenty. And unfortunately, last 366 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: week Kevin Fetterline, her ex husband, said that because of 367 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: things that they have observed, both of the kids, adults 368 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: now over the age of eighteen, did spend time with 369 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: Brittany this year, one more than the other, and they 370 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: don't feel. 371 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 6: Comfortable spending more time with her. And it's such that 372 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 6: we're asking so much as men. 373 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: Yes, isn't it true that one of them got an 374 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: expensive car from her in the past year? 375 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 6: That would not shock me. I did not know that. 376 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: And so if that is true, he takes a car, 377 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: but is afraid to be with her, but not afraid 378 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: to take the car, I'm that extremely inconsistent. 379 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 6: Well, I'll give. 380 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: You an exclusive that I've heard from some of my sources. 381 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: It's more than just the car, Nancy. I'm told that Brittany, 382 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: even though she's not legally obligated to do so, still 383 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: financially supports her sons and gives them an allowance, both 384 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: of them, even the one that is more estranged from her. 385 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not surprised. I mean, is there anything 386 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: you would not do for any of your three children? 387 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: Because I can think of very few things I wouldn't 388 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: do for mine, So I'm not surprised she's giving money 389 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: to her children. They're her boys. But it is a 390 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: little galling that Federline is still sucking her blood writing 391 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: a tail all book. Coincidentally, as soon as a child support. 392 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: Ends, I expect fully that he will continue to do this. 393 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: Brittany and the people around her just decide to silence 394 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: him by giving him more money. 395 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: Perez, I think at this juncture we can expect a 396 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: long line stretching endlessly into the future, appearances by fetter 397 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: Line promoting his book, maybe getting paid appearances. Make no mistake. 398 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: Child's support is paid to the parent, and the parent 399 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: takes that money to support the children. So all the 400 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: child support was was a huge amount Britney Spears was 401 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: paying went to fetter Line to use as hec's fit, 402 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: and the minute that ended, he puts out the book. 403 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: Have you read the book? Do you know about the book? 404 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: Oh? 405 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 6: I know? 406 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: Every detail about the book, and I find it hilarious 407 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: that he says he's doing. 408 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 6: It for his children. 409 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: I would have more respect for him if he was 410 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: just transparent and said I'm doing this for the money. 411 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: He also claims he's releasing this book because he's concerned 412 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: about Britney. If you're really concerned about the mother of 413 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: your children, I think there are better ways to express that. 414 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: You mean, shut the hell up and help her. I mean, 415 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: that's what I would have suggested. Now, this is confounding 416 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: to me. The court awarded and this is, according to him, 417 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: twenty grand a month in child support that saw two 418 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: hundred and forty thousand, nearly quarter million dollars a year, 419 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: and at the same time alimony like he can't go 420 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: to work of twenty thousand a month. 421 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, the number was increased eventually, so it did go 422 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: up to forty thousand a month for a long time. 423 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: Another little bit of good news. Brittany is estranged, as 424 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: we know, from her father, from her mother, from her sister. However, 425 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: Brittany has an older brother, which a lot of people 426 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: don't know or the me media doesn't talk about that often. 427 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: And Britney's brother, Brian Spears is, to my understanding, the 428 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: only family member in regular and close contact with Britney. 429 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 6: So you know, I do believe in the. 430 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: Value and importance of family, and hopefully he is a 431 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: positive influence for his sister. 432 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: Perez. Federline was getting around a half a million dollars 433 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: a year from Brittany, and according to you more, I'm 434 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: using a conservative calculation, and the minute that money ends, 435 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: suddenly he has a tell all but which totally trashes 436 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: the mother of his children to clear his name? What 437 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: does his name need to be cleared? Who wants to 438 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: clear the name of Kevin Federline? Does anyone even think 439 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: about Kevin Federline? 440 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, like you, Nan, I'm all about keeping 441 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 2: it real and being honest. 442 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 6: A couple of years ago, Brittany came. 443 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: Out with her own memoir, So I do think it 444 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: is absolutely valid and fair for Kevin to release. 445 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: His Now, oh so that's surprised, Hill to the name 446 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: is fair, Nanny, Nini boo boo. Please, it's only fair. 447 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: You did it if you are if I am this, so, 448 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: are you are you crazy? No? You're not crazy, I 449 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: know that for a fact. But your reasoning is a 450 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: non sequitur. It doesn't follow. He's the one making all 451 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: the money off of her, and now that the money ends, 452 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: he's trashing her. He has used her from day one 453 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: and used her children against her. Was she the best mom? 454 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: I can clearly say with no doubt, no, she was not. 455 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: But this book, okay, I just find it to be 456 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: I hate using this word triggering. He puts the book out, 457 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: and now this incident happens with her driving. She can't 458 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: blame anyone but herself for the driving, but he knows 459 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: how fragile she is and put this book out. Anyway, 460 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: He's just looking for another payday. But he's not my concern. 461 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: My concern is a future vehicular homicide victim. So you 462 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: think the brother can talk sense into her? 463 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 6: I didn't say that. 464 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody can talk sense into Brittany, sadly, 465 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 2: but the good thing is outside of the brother, every 466 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 2: other person in Britney's. 467 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 6: Life is on the payroll. So they're just another form 468 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 6: of Kevin fetterline. And that's sad. 469 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: Let me be clear, Are you telling me that's not 470 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: Brittany that I'm looking at right there? Driving that car? 471 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 6: The wrong one? Brittany it's her. 472 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: Okay, and are you also telling me she did not 473 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: drink alcohol at the bar? 474 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: I didn't say that, I said according to the manager 475 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: of the restaurant, he alleges that Brittany was not drunk. 476 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: You know what, you know us a little about you. 477 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: You throw in enough allegedly's reportedly's and according tos. I mean, 478 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: it's amazing. I should take a page out of your book, 479 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: for sure. What were you going to say? 480 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: But you know, listen, I'm on teen truth and just 481 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: one drink can have a really bad reaction if you're 482 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: also taking medication, and I don't know, perhaps Brittany is 483 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: on medication. So it was an unfortunate incident and hopefully 484 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: it doesn't happen again. 485 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: Well, I very often call unfortunate incidents felonies, and that's 486 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: what I don't want Britney Spears to be involved in. 487 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: You think anybody would come to her aid if she's 488 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: charged with a hic homicide. No, everybody would be piling 489 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: on and then you'd have the victim totally destroyed. Okay, 490 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: what's your most vivid memory, your most vivid personal memory 491 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: of Britney. 492 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 6: I mean, I remember. 493 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: It sucks because it was during the conservatorship, but her 494 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: life was stable and she was performing and doing what 495 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: she loves. And I went to go see her show 496 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, and this was after I was in 497 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: her Circus tour opening and for this. 498 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 6: One song, she brought me up on stage and put 499 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 6: me on a leash. 500 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: And walked me around and that was a fun moment 501 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: for me, definitely. 502 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: Okay, let me understand what I'm hearing. I'd like to 503 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: say for us, Hilton, please, Britney Spears put you on 504 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: a leash and walked you across the stage like a dog, 505 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: and that's your best memory. Okay, I think I'll leave 506 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: on that point. Thank you, mister Hulton. No further comments. 507 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: Cross examination has now ended. An erradic driving video of 508 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: Britney Spears has gone viral. Her response, that was a 509 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: look alike, It wasn't me. Here's the concern. If that's 510 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: what we're seeing in public, what is happening and private? 511 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: I want you to see a video posted by we 512 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: believe none other than her loving ex husband Kevin Fetterline 513 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: in his attempt to trash the mother of his children. 514 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 1: But this is a harsh reality. If this is to 515 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: be believed. Listen, I'm in here while we're trying to 516 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: go to bed, and and you just this is my house. 517 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 9: If I want to come in here and give you 518 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 9: lotion for your face because it is coarse, and all you. 519 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 6: Tell me now he's fine? Is fine? 520 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: No, it's not fine. You all better start respecting me. 521 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: Are we clear? 522 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 6: Yeah? And when Robin calls an you're all. 523 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 10: You're all, even Robin's a kid, she says, what have 524 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 10: you been giving to your kids? 525 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 6: You're all? 526 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: You own? 527 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 9: You to start treating me like a woman with worth. 528 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 9: I am a woman. Okay, be nice to me. Do 529 00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 9: you understand? 530 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: Straight out to our all star panel of a guest. 531 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: That video, as I mentioned earlier, was from Kevin Federline. 532 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining us from La, author of 533 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: deal Breaker. You can see her on Peacock and find 534 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Before I tank 535 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: the water, I'd like to hear your response to that video, 536 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: Nancy is heartbreaking. Those kids are being verbally abused. 537 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 11: She's telling them that they need to respect her, but 538 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 11: not in the way that a parent says. 539 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: You know, I cook dinner for you. 540 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 6: So you could. 541 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: Appreciate what I've done. 542 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 11: It's more like she's exploiting them for her own narcissistic gratification, 543 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 11: getting them to admire her and look up to her, 544 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 11: and that is really the use of the relationship with 545 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 11: her children. 546 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't know quite what to make of it. There 547 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: is more video, and let me go out to our 548 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: lawyer joining us is a conservatorship specialist, and of course 549 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to go to her on conservatorships, but she's 550 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: probably just other sorts of law as well. Elizabeth J. Mcinturffe, 551 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: specializing in guardianship issues, partner at Selzer Gervich. Elizabeth, thank 552 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: you for being with us. Whenever you, I assume like me, 553 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: would put a witness on the stand, I would have 554 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: to judge the credibility. Can they be believed? I put 555 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: everything on the stand, from a nun, a priest, possibly 556 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: a virgin, to strippers, prostitutes, drug addicts, you name it, 557 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: and I can tell you this much. Every witness you 558 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: put on the stand will be cross examined, so you've 559 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: got to be ready. My point, consider the source. This 560 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: is a video posted by her ex who is sucking 561 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: her blood with his tell all book. Coincidentally, the moment 562 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: his child support ends, then he writes a book. He 563 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: posted this, But even though I'm considering the source, Elizabeth McInturff, 564 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: I can't argue with its authenticity. 565 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 12: The video itself may be authentic, but what doesn't matter 566 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 12: if it was, you know, nearly twenty years ago. Now 567 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 12: we're talking about Brittany in the present sense and whether 568 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 12: or not she needs additional help, whether or not a 569 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 12: conservatorship is appropriate, what may or may not happened fifteen 570 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 12: years ago with her then, you know, younger children shouldn't 571 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 12: matter as it stands right now as to whether or 572 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 12: not she needs a guardianship. In fact, that was likely 573 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 12: already considered during her first guardianship. 574 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: Elizabeth McInturff, are you telling me that when you don't 575 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: know a horse, you cannot judge her track record? 576 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 12: The track record that the court is going to be 577 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 12: looking at is going to be the track record that's 578 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 12: happening right now, what has happened since the last guardianship. 579 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you've ever been to a race, 580 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: but certainly seen the Kentucky Derby on TV. A track 581 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: record is what has happened in the past not what 582 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: is happening right now. I'm sure you're familiar with similar 583 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: transactions in the law that tend to prove or disprove 584 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: the case in chief. What I'm talking about, and the 585 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: reason I showed that video is we see the erratic 586 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: driving in the here and now, but what happens behind 587 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: closed doors. What I'm saying is there is a move 588 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: afoot to revive her conservatorship after this erratic driving video 589 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: went viral, and there is a track record of bizarre 590 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: behavior in the past, but the bizarre doesn't necessarily require 591 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: a conservatorship. Everybody thinks everybody else is bizarre, right, So 592 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: who are we to step and say she needs a conservatorship? 593 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: But Elizabeth mcinturf, who I'd like to see while I'm 594 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: talking to her, Elizabeth, when you begin to threaten other 595 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: people and put them in danger, that changes everything. 596 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 12: Correct, And her putting people in danger is something that 597 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 12: the court may consider, but it's really is whether or 598 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 12: not she's putting herself in danger. The fact that she 599 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 12: put other people in danger the other night is horrifying. 600 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 12: And I also just question why no one called the 601 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 12: police if they're behind this car for miles presumably I 602 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 12: can tell you that shining a foolish. 603 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: Until they call you that. I'll tell you why, because 604 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: this video was not taken by a concerned citizen. It's 605 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: my belief, which has not been corroborated, that it's taken 606 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: by the paparazzi and they wanted to get the whole shot. 607 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: They'd probably be thrilled if she had a crash, because 608 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: then they'd have the video. That's why they didn't call police. 609 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: They thought their video would end. I'm just guessing. 610 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 6: I think you're probably right on that. 611 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 12: And whether or not though that that driving incident means 612 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 12: that she needs a guardianship is maybe something in the 613 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 12: court would look at, but it wouldn't be kind of 614 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 12: the end all be all of the guardianship. And like 615 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 12: you mentioned, it's the guardianship is a nuclear action. It's 616 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 12: kind of the last thing you. 617 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: Want to do. Oh, so they should be consaying a 618 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: number of steps. Are you watching the video at all 619 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: while you're talking? I'm sure the paparazzi are chasing her 620 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: as usual. No, there you go. Now watch this she 621 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: veers from one side into oncoming traffic in the next. 622 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: So okay. People have argued there was no oncoming traffic, 623 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: slams on breaks and then keeps going. That's dangerous, oh, Elizabeth, Yeah, 624 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: horrifying the driving itself, and that is again something that 625 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: they may consider, But any of itself does not mean 626 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: a guardianship. 627 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 12: If it did, what in her ex justin Timberlake have 628 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 12: a guardianship? He himself had a DUI And so. 629 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: What the is looking really good point? That's a really 630 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: good point, Elizabeth mcinturf. I was just arguing with our 631 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave Mack who called her out 632 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: for making a euwie? Is there anybody on this panel, 633 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: let your voice be heard that has never pulled a 634 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: yui before. Just because there's one incident of erratic driving 635 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: does not a conservatorship make, But coupled with other behavior, 636 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: there may be a case Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 637 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: Shouldn't there be another conservatorship before anyone else is hurt? 638 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: The video we showed you earlier Britney Spears fussing at 639 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: her children about as they're trying to go to bed, 640 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: about putting on lotion and demanding they respect her as 641 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: a woman. Here is another video posted by Fetterline. Have 642 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: you lost your. 643 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 10: Mind care, But I'm shocked as with you, and I 644 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 10: don't know what to do. And I'm scared of you 645 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 10: because you're weird, because you're going through puberty. I don't 646 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 10: know what to say, but I do care more than 647 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 10: you know, Sha, But don't be my little body can't 648 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 10: handle all of that. But it's like sometimes I just 649 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 10: don't even know what to say with you. I was 650 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 10: in shock and I do care. Literally, I was in 651 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 10: shocked in the store when I look down and Jayden. 652 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: How are you so cool about that? 653 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 10: Your brother being mc barron's big feat Sin's thirteen, Now, 654 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 10: well he's my brother often all the more exposed his 655 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 10: feet your blood in ice cream shop in Alaska weather. 656 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 1: Don't you think that's a little odd? 657 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 12: Uh? 658 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think your fond should be gone, Okay for 659 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 1: very long? Yeah, that's what I was posted by Kevin 660 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: Federline on Insta via page six. 661 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 3: During her outing with a friend at Red Oh in Westlake, California, 662 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 3: Spears reportedly displayed unusual behavior, including knocking over glasses and 663 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 3: eyebrows among onlookers. 664 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: Straight out to a private investigator, Chief Operation Officer Nathan's Investigations, 665 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: who specializes in conservatorship issue investigations. Ashley word Law joining us. Ashley, 666 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. I find the timing unusual 667 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: that this talk of should there be a new conservatorship 668 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: exactly when the leech Kevin Federline puts out his tell 669 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: all book. I find it coincidental that that happens right 670 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: when his child support about forty grand a month combined 671 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: with alimony ends. Now he writes a tell all book, 672 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: and then suddenly there is this viral video and then 673 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: suddenly there's a snowball effect, and we're talking about a 674 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: conservatorship in that video. I don't see her doing anything 675 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: that a lot of people haven't done. 676 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 8: As a private investigator, our job would be to get 677 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 8: factual evidence. So yes, we are going to look for 678 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 8: videos that show her behavior, but we can't speak to 679 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 8: what she's doing. 680 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to look for past videos. 681 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 8: We're going to look for financial records and interview people, 682 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 8: you know, those who were present at the time and see, 683 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 8: you know, what their thoughts were and what was going 684 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 8: on with her while she was out in public. Okay, 685 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 8: we can only go and get what's happening outside of 686 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 8: our household. 687 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: So, for example, we do surveillance on her for a 688 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. 689 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 8: We want to show a consistent. 690 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: Pattern for her. 691 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 8: It can't just be one viral moment or one bad 692 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 8: moment and we take it. 693 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: And run with it. 694 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 8: We need to be able to build a historical timeline 695 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 8: and show from point A up until this point, this 696 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 8: is what's been going. 697 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: On with her, and we need that footage. 698 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 8: We need things like videos and photos so that we 699 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 8: can present this to those decision makers. 700 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: Well put how she Wardlaw joining us from Nathan's investigations. 701 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: You know, Yessica Fan, it's just all fitting together a 702 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: little too neatly, Jessica Fan joining US Senior investigative reporter 703 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: Us Son that all of this emerges, it bubbles up 704 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: right when Federal Line's book comes out. 705 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I have mixed feelings about kay Fed 706 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 5: coming out with this book. I mean, on the one hand, 707 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 5: it seems like it was well timed for Brittany to 708 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 5: not be doing well. 709 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, is this. 710 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 5: New depth of her spiraling result of his book. You know, 711 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 5: it's kind of like what came first, the chicken or 712 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 5: the egg here, Brittany doesn't seem to have been doing 713 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 5: well for a little while now, I think we've all 714 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 5: been witnessed to her Instagram and dancing with knives and. 715 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: Jessica Fan Jessica Fan. Yeah, if I had a body 716 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: like that, I might dance around in Pacey's too. Yeah, 717 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: you know, so, so it's easy for us to say 718 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: that's bad. It is shend but naked. Who cares? 719 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 12: I don't gobbled? 720 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: Do you care? 721 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 12: You know? 722 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: Okay for the most part. 723 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 5: Note, but there's also the. 724 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: Water's forty, and she looks awesome. 725 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 13: But there's also like dog fecal matter in the background 726 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 13: on the floor, and her house is like clearly in 727 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 13: disarray and to the point where it's like a dean. 728 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 5: It looks dangerous, Hazmac kind of situation. 729 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at video right now and I don't 730 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: see any of that. I do say some very troubling 731 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: knife flay. So okay, Jessica Fan, Do you have a pet? 732 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: May I ask? I do? I? Do? I have a 733 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: cat with a litter box and have one? Ever? Let 734 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: me say, is there a nice way to say this 735 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: took a big bat crap on the floor when you 736 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: weren't looking. 737 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 5: It certainly happens. 738 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,240 Speaker 13: It certainly happens. 739 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: But I also don't know. Okay, so out so Brittany's 740 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: dog took a poop on the floor and she's dancing 741 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: around naked. I'm not the church lady. I'm concerned about 742 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: more serious issues like driving on the wrong side of 743 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: the road and a potential vehicular homicide. But actually, Wardlaw 744 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: is right from Nathan's investigations, there's got to be more 745 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: than just Jessica Finn these isolated videos, And as Ashley 746 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: Wardlaw pointed out, you're going to have to have a 747 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 1: series of videos or a series of purported bizarre behavior 748 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: to establish a conservatorship. Jessica, I get the sense that 749 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: you're taking up for k fed. I'm going to let 750 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: you defend yourself very quickly. You know. 751 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 5: It's just that he's calling He's calling it like he 752 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 5: sees it. He lived through her first mental breakdowns and 753 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 5: what happened through the conservatorship. And while I totally think 754 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 5: that this is a cash grab, I don't. I do 755 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 5: think he's like literally reliving and re seeing what happened 756 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 5: so many years ago that got her in that conservationship. 757 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I need to go to a shrink on that 758 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall. It sounds like she, Jessica Finn, senior 759 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: investigative reporter, is saying that Federline maybe having PTSD as 760 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 1: he's living in his mansion counting his money. You know, Nancy, 761 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: maybe he is. 762 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 6: I actually agree with Jessica. 763 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 11: I see it from all sides, and maybe that the 764 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 11: timing of the book is because the boys are now 765 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 11: of age to give consent, have turned eighteen, So not 766 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 11: just about the alimony or the child support. It could 767 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 11: be that Brittany has escalated to a point where there 768 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 11: needs to be some kind of intervention so she's not 769 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 11: a danger to self or others. 770 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: But I watched Bethany Marshall on the way to your 771 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 1: office in the sky, your plush sweet, you've never gone 772 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: over the center lane before. But that's not what this is. 773 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 1: Next to see, that is not what this is owed her. 774 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 11: I don't think so, because she did it multiple times. 775 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 11: Nancy does a thirty minute ride from the restaurant to 776 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 11: her house. That was thirty minutes that she could have 777 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 11: killed herself or somebody else, and the paparazzi doesn't even 778 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 11: call nine one one. I mean, you eloquently pointed out 779 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 11: that they're not motivated to do it. But you know, Nancy, 780 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 11: if she or my patient, I would wonder if she 781 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 11: was still connected to reality, if she had driven everybody away, 782 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 11: if she's become the kind of person who's untreatable, because 783 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 11: she might just fire whoever has helping her and then 784 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 11: replace that person with. 785 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: Somebody of Ephany, you actually have me over a barrel. 786 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: There are plenty of people out there that have driven 787 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: everyone away. They don't have any friends. That does not 788 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: mean they should be under a conservatorship. I don't care 789 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: how many times she dances naked except for some pasties 790 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: on instant. Don't care. But, Elizabeth mcintur, if you're the 791 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: expert in guardianship issues, Bethany has me over a barrel. Can't. 792 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: I don't care about the knife video. I don't care 793 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 1: about the dog taking a poop and there's the offender 794 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: in the background the dog. I do care about a 795 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: potential vehicul homicide. I care about Britney hurting herself or 796 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: someone else. But what can we do? I mean, I 797 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 1: have defended Britney since day one, but when other people 798 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 1: aren't at risk, that changes the mix. 799 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 12: Elizabeth, what the court is going to look for in 800 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 12: a guardianship proceeding is just whether or not she has 801 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 12: capacity to make decisions. People with capacity make bad decisions 802 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 12: all the time. Right they choose to drive erradically, they 803 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 12: choose to yell at their children, they make decisions that 804 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 12: are not safe for them or safe for others. It 805 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 12: does not necessarily mean that they have a guardianship. The 806 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 12: court is going to look at is whether or not 807 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 12: she has the capacity to make those decisions. And if 808 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 12: she doesn't have the capacity to make those decisions, perhaps 809 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 12: a guardianship inappropriate. 810 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 6: But she does have the capacity and. 811 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 12: She's just making bad decisions, that does not require a guardianship. 812 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 12: And there's other options that could take that aren't the 813 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 12: nuclear option of a guardianship. There's certainly an intervention that 814 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 12: family and friends could hold, she can take other actions, 815 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 12: have medical powers of attorney, people to assist her in 816 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 12: case she isn't a crisis. But we have to remember 817 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 12: that a guardianship is an absolutely extreme remedy in which 818 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 12: we are taking away all of somebody's rights in many events, 819 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 12: and so we have to think about that carefully before 820 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 12: we start throwing around that people need guardianships or they 821 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 12: don't need guardianships, particularly when what we're trying to do 822 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,720 Speaker 12: is control bad behavior as opposed to assist somebody who's 823 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 12: lacking in capacity. 824 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: Now we remember an American hero, Sergeant Frederick Coleman, Arkansas 825 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: Department Corrections, killed in the line of duty after fifteen 826 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: years serving and protecting, leaving behind his wife turned widow, 827 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: and six children and without their father. American hero Sergeant 828 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: Frederick Coleman. Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend.