1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: It's a weekend podcast, and Ramon says, I do too 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: long of an introduction to these things, So let me 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: just say this. You can always send me an email 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: through our website Michael Berryshow dot com. 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: I do love to hear from. 6 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 3: You The Michael Berry Show. 7 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Our guest is doctor Travis Taylor. Now listen now, how 8 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: cool this is you talk? You talk about your true 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: renaissance man. Listen to this Doctor Travis Taylor, aka the 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Ringleader Alabama, Alabama born and bred. Travis's work with the 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: Department of Defense and NASA for the last twenty five years, 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: but his oddest job was working in a chicken house. 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: He has above top secret clearance with the US government. 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: He holds five degrees in optical science and engineering, physics, 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: aerospace engineering, astronomy, and electrical engineering, and he's currently completing 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: a second PhD in aerospace engineering. He built his first 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: rocket at age six, and he's been a space geek 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: ever since. He's currently working on several advanced propulsion concepts, 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: very large space telescopes, space based beamed energy systems, high 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: energy lasers, and next generation space launch concepts. Taylor has 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: written more than twenty five technical papers fourteen science fiction 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: novels and two textbooks, and he has appeared in multiple 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: television documentaries, including National Geographics recently highly rated special Win 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: Aliens Attack. That's my idea of a redneck renaissance man, 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: Doctor Travis Taylor, thanks for being our guest. 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me call me Travis. 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: All right, Travis, tell me about this cool new show 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: that I'm excited to watch tonight, Chad, I got to 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: tell you about how broad the appeal is. My producer 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: is Hawaiian born half Japanese, grew up or went to 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: school in Portland, Oregon, well actually in Eugene, Oregon, got 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: to Texas as fast as he can, and has been 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: just geeked up over watching this show tonight. So I 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: think the appeal is going to be widespread. 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: Well, I hope. So, you know, the whole reason for 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: us doing this show is we want to show people 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: that if you put your mind to it, you and 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: a few friends and family members can can get together 39 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: and solve some problems. They may not necessarily have to be, 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 3: you know, earth shattering problems, but they can be a 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: problem of some scale that you could solve. And that's 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: pretty much what we do each weekend, we pick a 43 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: problem and then we get together and put our heads 44 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: around it, and we figure out a solution, usually for 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: under a couple thousand dollars worth of stuff that we 46 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: can find in my dad's garager, in the junk yard 47 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: next door, or at the hardware store. 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: I love the cast of characters. The show's called Rocket 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: City Rednecks. Roger Jones, I guess is your best friend 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: from elementary school. 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we met Roger and I his real name is Greg, 52 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: but we've always called him Roger for some reason. But 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: we met in the fifth grade in the Alabama Talented 54 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: and Gifted program. And Roger has got a super genius IQ. 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: I mean, like up in the high one sixties. And 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: there ain't a problem that he looks at that he 57 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: doesn't almost immediately know the answer to. But Roger never 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 3: wanted to go to school because he wasn't that disciplined 59 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: about such things. But he became a machinist and a 60 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 3: welder and a tinker and man, he can fix just 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: about anything. And he drinks a lot of beer. 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he likes to shoot stuff. Now, I got 63 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: in my materials, it says one of the members, one 64 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: of the group of five lives in a trailer. Which 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: one is that? 66 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: That's Roge okay? 67 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: And then your dad, I guess Charles Taylor. 68 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, my dad, when he was twenty two years old, 69 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: he was a local Huntsville sharecroping farmer and he was 70 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 3: becoming a machinist at a local machine company here and 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: that's about the time the space program picked up and 72 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: he found himself as as one of Werner von Braun's machinists. 73 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: And my dad worked on the space program from the 74 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: early sixties off up until about nineteen seventy where he 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: built He was one of the machinists that put together 76 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: the prototype of one of the first satellites we launched 77 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: that's still in orbit today. And then he also built 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: and welded parts that were actually in the Saturn five 79 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: that took me into the Moon. 80 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: Then Michael Taylor, who is your nephew. 81 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: And my nephew, Michael, he's twenty three, and he's the 82 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: only single one of the bunch, and all of us 83 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: kind of joking, we say that we're going to be 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: living Y Cashley through him, and he's a super genius 85 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: of putting things together. And since i've been getting the 86 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: legos since he was old enough to chew on whatever 87 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 3: you want to chew on. And at fourteen or fifteen, 88 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: he took a twenty horse power brigs and Stratton engine 89 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: and put it into a shopping cart and turned that 90 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: thing into a shopping cart that would go forty mile hour. 91 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: Wow, that's practical. Yeah, Pete Urbach Pistol. Pete, tell me 92 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: about him? 93 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, Pete and I met in graduate school studying 94 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: for our physics degrees, and he and I started hanging 95 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: out and studying and drinking together and shooting guns together, 96 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: and then we ended up marrying sisters. 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: Wow, and tell me how this project came about Rocket 98 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: City Rednecks. 99 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: Well, as you alluded to earlier. You know, I've written 100 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: some science fiction books, and there was this company of 101 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: production company out in Hollywood that was doing this other 102 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: documentary show and they were going to do an episode 103 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: of that show on space warfare, and they googled that 104 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: topic and my name came up. So they called me 105 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: and said, would you like to come out and do 106 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 3: a screen test for us? And I said sure, And 107 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: when I went out to do the screen test, they 108 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: ended up keeping me in Film two episodes of that 109 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: show that week and had me back for a bunch 110 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: of other episodes. But I told them, look, guys, these 111 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: documentary shows, these science shows, if you're not already a 112 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: science geek or enthusiast, you usually your eyes glaze over 113 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: about ten minutes in because most of everybody don't want 114 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: to see the ad nauseum detail of a quantum black hole. 115 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: We need a science show that'd be fun and exciting 116 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: and would be entertaining. People would watch and not realize 117 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: they're getting the science at the same time. 118 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: Right. 119 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: They said, well, what kind of ideas you have? So 120 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: I told him. Nothing really happened for a little while. 121 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: So I went and bought a video camera, put my 122 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: wife behind it, and we got the guys together and 123 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: we did a project one weekend and she filmed it 124 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: and I sent it back to that production company and 125 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: within a week they had a real production, real film 126 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 3: crew in Huntsville filming this. And we filmed a pilot 127 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: and sent it to that geo and the next day 128 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: after that geo saw it, they offered us a contract 129 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: for a series. 130 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: Doctor Travis Taylor is our guest. He's the star, along 131 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: with four other folks family and friends of a show 132 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: called Rocket What is it? Rocket City Rednecks, which premieres 133 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: tonight with four episodes on the National Geographic Channel. One 134 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: of the I Guess, I got two clips that they 135 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: sent along, and I just realized Chad just gave me. 136 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: I got I Guess your first episode. First two episodes 137 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: here on DVD's already, so I may not have to 138 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: watch it tonight. I'll take it home and watch as 139 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: soon as I'm through. But one of the things y'all 140 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: did was build your own submarine. Tell us about that. 141 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I tell people that we've only almost died 142 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: once while filming this series. This this first season, we 143 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: actually decided we wanted to practice doing some exploring and 144 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: exploring underwater and see what we could do with what 145 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: we had on hand. You know, there's a lot about 146 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: the ocean we don't know about, and rivers and so 147 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: on we haven't been to the bottom of. And if 148 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: we ever go to other planets, they're going to have 149 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: lakes and rivers and oceans. We want to be able 150 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: to observe them. So we put together submarine using what 151 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: we could fight, and we found a plastic container that 152 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: they had a farmer had next to my dad's house 153 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: that they put pasticides and stuff in. It's about four 154 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: foot by four foot by four foot box, and we 155 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: took it and mounted it to my dad's crappee boat trailer. 156 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: He didn't like that too much, but I talked him 157 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: into it, and then used about five or six beer 158 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: kegs for ballast mass and air tanks, and then we 159 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: put that thing in the water and it worked out 160 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: great for a while, and then we had had a 161 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: couple of failures occurred while me and my nephew were 162 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: in it down at depth, and it got a little 163 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: scary for a little while, but we managed to get 164 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: out of it all right. 165 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: Travis, despite all your educational accomplishments and your professional accomplishments, 166 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: reading about you and talking to you before the interview, 167 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: it strikes me how humble you are, but it is. 168 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: I hope it's not lost on you, and I hope 169 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: this turns out to be the case for my generation. 170 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm forty when we went to law school. I was 171 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: in law school in the mid nineties, and there was 172 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: a study that had just come out before that as 173 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: to the reason people had gone to law school that 174 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: were my age. The number one reason was they had 175 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: watched To Kill a Mockingbird. If you stop and think 176 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: about you talked about exposing kids to science without and 177 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: they think they're just blowing stuff up, but it's actually 178 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: your exposing of science. This could have a profound impact 179 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: for young kids that never thought of the academic environment, 180 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: be in someplace they could excel, but awakening in them 181 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: a love for the natural world and engineering and mathematics 182 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: and science. 183 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, that's part of one of our 184 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 3: goals for this thing is we all here in the 185 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: Rocket City are just absidanolutely embarrassed by the fact that 186 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: we have to rent a ride from the Russians go 187 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: to our own dead gum space station. And so we 188 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: want to get a generation of folks to understand that 189 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: you can do stuff, and that Americans can get off 190 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: the couch, put the game controllers down, get out of 191 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: the virtual world, go out in the garage, and start 192 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 3: putting things together and start making America a nation full 193 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: of doers again. And that's part of one of our plans, 194 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: is just to inspire people to do something. 195 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: Travis, can you hold with me for just a moment. Absolutely, 196 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: Originally they had said just to keep you for one segment, 197 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: but we talked earlier and you think you can hang 198 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: around a little while longer. 199 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have another interview for another hour. 200 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: Oh good, Well, hold tight, my man, doctor Travis Taylor. 201 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Michael Berry Show. Travis Taylor, thanks for 202 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: being our guest. 203 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me. 204 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you could hear me 205 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: during the break, but I was saying one of the 206 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: things that I think you talked about, You're going to 207 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: expose science to people who think they're just watching stuff 208 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: being blown up, but kids could have in them awakened 209 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: a love of science, and future scientists who you know, 210 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: have been tinkering in the garage and realized, wait a second, 211 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: I found my calling. This could be this could be 212 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: what I do. I wonder to what extent National Geographic 213 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: because of the mission they have, to what extent they 214 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: saw that. 215 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: You know, that's a good question. I've actually had conversations 216 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: with the president of the channel and all that about this, 217 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: and I've told him that this is my goal, you 218 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: other than you know, to have a hit show. Of course, 219 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: so I could just do the show if I want 220 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: to do but no, my goal is really to get 221 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: people excited about this, get them interested in us doing 222 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: some bigger projects as a country, as a people, as 223 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: a culture, and let's just keep moving forward at being great, 224 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 3: which is what Americans have done historically, has been great. 225 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: Just got an email from a guy in Portland, Oregon, 226 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: and he says, Michael in Portland, Oregon writes, I'm listening 227 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: to your interview with Travis Taylor, the Rocket City Redneck. 228 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm forty four years old, and I am inspired. I 229 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: want to go home and make something. I just had 230 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: a son and I've been wondering how to inspire him 231 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: to do things like them like this. I want him 232 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: to be inspired by people like this. I just got 233 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: their website on the National Geographic Page and their article 234 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: on space dot com. I may have to break down 235 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: and buy a cable just so I can watch this 236 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: guy show. How nice is that? 237 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: Wow? That's amazing. 238 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: Have you been surprised by how interested people have been 239 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: in your scientific undertakings? You know, the previous show you did. 240 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: You've been surprised by how interested people are in that 241 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: sort of stuff? 242 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: You know? I kind of am I am, and I'm 243 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 3: not because I know how much I love it, and 244 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: I know how much it excites me and the people 245 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: that are my friends around me. I mean, that's what 246 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: we talk about when we set around drinking beer. We 247 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: occasionally talk about football and hunting, but we usually end 248 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 3: up talking about rockets and quantum physics. But it's one 249 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: of those things that everybody is curious about, you know, 250 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: why are we here? What's the universe all about? And what? 251 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: Well how do things work? And so I think it's 252 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 3: in everybody. It's just we've just had a real bad 253 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: way of showing it to people for a long time now. 254 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: Ever since we sort of stopped with the space program, 255 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: we haven't had a big national thing that was so 256 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 3: awesome for everybody to get behind. And I want to 257 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: see people get that enthusiasm back. 258 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: A note here that you failed a class in college? 259 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: What was it? I only ever failed one class in 260 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: my life, and it was the third electromagnetics class as 261 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: a senior or junior senior level class in electrical engineering. 262 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: But it was really more of an attitude me against 263 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 3: this particular professor. I disagreed with a young professor in 264 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: class and argued with him to a fault where I 265 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: had no choice but either eat, grow or fail. And 266 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: I was too stubborn at the time, and so I 267 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: had to learn my lesson and take the class. Oh 268 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: we're to get ahead in at the second time. 269 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: Travis Taylor with the show Rocket City, Rednecks as our guests, 270 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: where do you think we went wrong in this country 271 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: in the pursuit of science in school? 272 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 3: Well, you know where we went wrong was given the 273 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: kids a preconceived notion or preconceived answer when they'd start 274 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: to do things. We never should tell them what the 275 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: answer is when you're doing the science. Let them figure 276 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: out what the answer is. We don't start telling them 277 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 3: things about the world coming to an end. Are this 278 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: is how it's gonna work, and this is how it's 279 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: gonna work. What we do if we show them how 280 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: to set up the experiment and let them find out 281 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: for themselves what the solution is, what's going to happen, 282 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: Make it exciting, make it an adventure. If it's something 283 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 3: that they have to learn through memorization or whatever, then 284 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: you know who wants to do that. 285 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the at the different episodes bomb Proof, 286 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: My Pickup, Moonshine, Rocket Fuel, and Junkyard iron Man, and 287 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: I note in some of the materials that you built 288 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: an Iron Man suit. What is your fascination with Iron Man? 289 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you my own personal hero, and 290 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: Michael's daddy, my nephew who's in the show, his daddy 291 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: and my big brother is an E nine in the 292 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: United States Air Force, and he's been to Iraq and 293 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: Afghanistan for long periods of time, about three or four 294 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: times now. And they have to wear all this armor, 295 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: carry all this stuff around. They got so much gear 296 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 3: on them that it seems to me like it makes 297 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: them almost bogged down to where they can't be as 298 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: effective it had protected themselves from getting shot at. And 299 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: I've all been a long fan of a long time 300 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: fan of the idea of powered armor that if they 301 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: could wear the armor and the armor enhance their strength 302 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: instead of sap their strength, then it would go a 303 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: long way to help them do their mission a lot better, 304 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: and it would help protect them and give them a 305 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: better chance coming home safe. So I got the guys 306 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: together and I told them said, you know, we're not 307 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: gonna be able to build one that look works like 308 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: the perfect Iron Man in the movies. But let's build 309 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: what we can build and show that with some ingenuities, 310 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: some junk yard parts and you know, maybe a thousand 311 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: dollars worth of stuff from the hardware store, that we 312 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: can build a bulletproof suit from head to toe that 313 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: will enhance your strength and give you some extra sensors, 314 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: and maybe show people that it can be done on 315 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: the cheap and in a weekend. And then imagine what 316 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 3: we could do if we did a real program to 317 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: build the suits to give to our troops. 318 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: What's the project you wanted to do for Rocket City 319 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: Rednecks that National Geographic or the production company said, no, 320 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: that's just too dangerous. 321 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: Well, the only thing they've turned me down on had 322 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: to do with the Iron Man suit. We invented a 323 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: way to lay fiberglass and sheet metal and plywood together 324 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: in different layers to make it bulletproof. And we literally 325 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: we tested it and shot it with several different types 326 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: of rifle bullets and proved that it was completely bulletproof. 327 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: And I wanted at the end of the show. I 328 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: wanted Pete to come by with a pistol and unload 329 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: on my chest. And I told him I'd even want 330 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: a bulletproof vest underneath the armor while they were filming 331 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: it just for safety, and we were completely confident that 332 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: another one happened, but the legal people wouldn't let us 333 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: do it. 334 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: Were you confident Pete was a good enough shot? Oh? 335 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched Pete, Pete or my daddy, either one 336 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: could do. But my dad wouldn't do it. And when 337 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: he found out that me and Pete were hatching this idea, 338 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: he went through the roof on us. 339 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: Well why don't you just do it with a home 340 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: camera and then give them the footage. 341 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 3: Oh. We talked about that, and I asked the production 342 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 3: company and they said there's no way that the legal 343 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: would clear them every showing that. So I'm not going 344 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: to do something that's gonna make anybody upset or mad 345 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: because this is such an opportunity for us to show 346 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 3: these types of experiments to the world that I don't 347 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: want to take a chance of stopping that capability. 348 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: Travis Taylor, thanks for staying with us so long. A 349 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: couple of quick questions based on I'm gonna synthesize all 350 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: the emails I'm getting and ask them rapid fire role 351 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: models for you, role models for. 352 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: Me, Alan Shephard, Chuck Jaeger, Story, Musgrave, all those are 353 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: big astronauts. Fictional wise, it would be Jim Kirk, then 354 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: writers like Mark Twain and Robert Heinlein, and then of 355 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: course my dad and my big brother. 356 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: You had to throw Hindlin in there. How awesome are you? 357 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: You just get more interesting the more I ask you 358 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: as a child, books or movies or TV shows that 359 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: inspired you and are some part of who you are now. 360 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I would start off with the first science fiction 361 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: book that I ever read, and that was Have Spacesuit 362 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: Will Travel by Robert Heinlein, no wonderful young adult science 363 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: fiction novel. 364 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm a huge Highline fan, so I'm happy to hear 365 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: that I'm a huge Hindhline fan. 366 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah awesome. And then TV, of course I grew up 367 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: watching the Star Trek reruns and the movies. You know, 368 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: the first time I saw Star Wars, I was I 369 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: was hooked, and I wanted to be going to the 370 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: new places and seeing new things, and that kind of 371 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 3: led me into where I got to today. 372 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: Several fathers sending in and saying I want to get 373 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: my my son interested in science, whether they pursue the 374 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: field or not, I want them interested in the natural 375 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: world and and machinery and science. What's a good starter 376 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: project for a young child? 377 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: It depends on how old they are. But let me 378 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 3: tell you, I don't care who you are and how 379 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: old old you are. To see a rocket get launched 380 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: right there that you actually put your hands on and built, 381 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: that's something. And so what I'd recommend is go to 382 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 3: your local hobby shop and spend ten bucks on a 383 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 3: rocket kit, follow the instructions and safety instructions carefully and 384 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: do that. And then once you've done one by the 385 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: by the kit, find some stuff around the house and 386 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: build your own rocket, following the kind of same principles 387 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: that you learned from from building a kit and uh 388 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: and use use one of the kit engines and see 389 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: what it does, and see if you can make one 390 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: that flies just as good or better. And then put 391 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: an egg in it, and see if you can bring 392 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: an egg home safely. Because think about we had to 393 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 3: figure out a way to bring our astronauts on them safely. 394 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: And if you could do something in your in your 395 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: kitchen or your garage that is similar to that that 396 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: you did with your own hands, it everybody just smiles 397 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: when that happens. 398 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: You have a gift for storytelling. A magazine uh that 399 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: you that you subscribe to, that you would recommend to others, Well, 400 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: you know, growing. 401 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: Up, Uh, it was always Scientific American and Popular Science. 402 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 3: And I and not not really plugging that because I 403 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: didn't plan this, but National Geographic, of course. And but 404 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: that was probably because I had pictures of topless women 405 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 3: and right, that's. 406 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: Why I watched it as a kid. 407 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: I read it as a kid, and I used to 408 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 3: we used to every Sunday night the family would get 409 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: together and watch a mutual of Omaha's Animal Kingdom. Uh. 410 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: You know, uh Wild Kingdoms. 411 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim will now wrestle the alligator. Inventors, Uh, your 412 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: advice to inventors, A lot of listeners have inventions on 413 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: their mind, things they're working to do you have a 414 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: website or a source or some guidance for people that 415 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: are inventors by nature? 416 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: Well, my first guidance is something that we tell each 417 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 3: other all the time on the show, and we use 418 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: it and it's one of the things that is about 419 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: being stubborn that I've been. When I would fail, maybe 420 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: the first time, and keep moving, keep at it. We 421 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: always tell each other to stay with it. And as 422 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: the first and foremost advice I give anybody by anything, 423 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: it is a goal of theirs. No matter how much 424 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: it looks like you're not going to get it for 425 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: some reason, just focus that you've got it and stay 426 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: with it. 427 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: Travis Taylor is our guest. He is one of the 428 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: stars of Rocket City Rednecks, which airs tonight on National Geographic. 429 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 1: What thing would you most like to invent that has 430 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: not yet been invented? 431 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: A warp drive? I want to be able to take 432 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: humanity to other star systems at some point in my life. 433 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: Does it bother you when you see Southerners or Rednecks 434 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, portrayed in movie, he's in 435 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: television on the evening news as not as smart as 436 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: people with different dialects or accents. 437 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 3: Well there's two sides of that too. It bothers me 438 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 3: a bit. But what bothers me is that people think 439 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 3: that smart people in general have to be like the 440 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: folks on this comedy show, Big Bang Theory. You know, 441 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: it's a great funny show, don't get me wrong, and 442 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to plug or low rate the show, 443 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 3: but people think that if you're really smart, you have 444 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 3: to be ineffective and ridiculously reilly and stupid like these guys. 445 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 3: They don't have enough common sense to walk through an 446 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: open door. And I tell people that part of being 447 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: a rocket scientist is knowing the big picture and how 448 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: to put it all together and make it work. We 449 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 3: give you a perfect example. Werner von Bryn was losing 450 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: political favor and knew that he would lose funding during 451 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: the early part of the rocket program, so he got 452 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: in a plane, flew to Orlando, Florida, and talked Walt 453 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 3: Disney into helping him out, and walk Disney started making 454 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: little cartoons about rockets and putting them on before his 455 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 3: big movie aired in the movie theaters. Wow, that's part 456 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: of the big picture. 457 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: What person have you been most excited about meeting that 458 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: you have met in your life? 459 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: Wow? Uh, it had to it would have to be 460 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: Neil Armstrong. I actually met him at a conference. I 461 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: was signing autograph for one of my books and one 462 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 3: of his handlers came up to get an autograph of 463 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: my book and they told me to make it out 464 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: to Neil and uh, and I was like, Neil, how 465 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 3: do you spell that? And he said, just like the 466 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 3: character in your book who was named after Neil Armstrong. 467 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: And so I signed it. And I looked up and 468 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: I realized that it was Neil Armstrong's you know, entourage, 469 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 3: and so I signed it, uh, you know to Neil Armstrong. UH. 470 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 3: When I turned one year old, you were splashing down 471 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: in UH in the ocean. So it was a great 472 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: way for you to celebrate my birthday and was an 473 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: autographed to him. 474 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: How awesome was it to know that somebody for whom 475 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: you had been a fan was now a fan of 476 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: your work. 477 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it. I immediately got off the UH, 478 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: pulled out my phone, called my wife and she said, 479 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: what did you get his autograph? And then, of course 480 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: my heart's sunk because they were already gone and I 481 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 3: had not asked for his autograph. 482 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm betting if you dropped him a note, he would 483 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: love to meet you. Last question, what person have you 484 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: not met that is alive that you would most like 485 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: to meet? 486 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: Wow? That that is still alive that I would most 487 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: like to meet? Guy. You know, one of my biggest 488 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 3: things in life was I never was old enough to 489 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: vote for Roun Regan. I always thought he was an 490 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 3: awesome dude. So right now, a guy that's still alive, 491 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: I'd like to meet. I've never met Story Musgrave or 492 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: Chuck Jaeger. I'd like to meet either one of those 493 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: two guys. 494 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: Okay, who's the greatest scientist? If you have to pick 495 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: one of all time? Oh? 496 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: Wow, that I have to pick one of all time? 497 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: I have to, I have to pick one. 498 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: You know. 499 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 3: Of course the obviously answer everybody would say Einstein because 500 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 3: he had so many theories and stuff. 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