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Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome. This is I Do Part two, an innovative,

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Speaker 1: one of a kind experiment in podcasting and love. We

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Speaker 1: are going to rip the band aid off you guys

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Speaker 1: and talk about all the things you need to know

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Speaker 1: if you're jumping back into the relationship pool. I did

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Speaker 1: basically a belly flop when I jump back in. I'd

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Speaker 1: been married for seventeen years and I would have rather

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Speaker 1: licked I de can't. I don't know something really gross

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Speaker 1: than to have to start dating again later in my life.

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Speaker 1: But that's what happened, and I was not prepared. So

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Speaker 1: we are going to get you prepped and ready for

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Speaker 1: this next amazing chapter in your life. We're going to

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Speaker 1: get you ready to open yourself up to love again,

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Speaker 1: and I am excited. I'm one of your hosts, Jenny Garth.

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Speaker 1: This week we are going to talk about a very

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Speaker 1: important part of a romantic relationship, sex, more specifically sex

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Speaker 1: in our second act. And if you know me, you

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Speaker 1: know I can get a little squirmy when the sex

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Speaker 1: topic comes up. That's one area of my life that

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Speaker 1: I like to keep private. So I'm so relieved that

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be joined by two fab women. You know,

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Speaker 1: them from The Golden Bachelor and their podcast, Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Golden Hour, Please welcome Susan Knowles and Kathy Schwartz to

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Speaker 1: the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Ladies.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're beautiful and you're beautiful.

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Speaker 3: That was a great entry and I am not squeamish

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, it's a natural bodily function.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's just jump in. I want to talk to you, ladies,

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Speaker 1: about what Goldiehan recently said. Goldiehan and Kurt Russell have

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Speaker 1: been together for forty years, and she recently said that the

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Speaker 1: secret to a long lasting relationship is good sex. So

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that. What do you think. Do you

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Speaker 1: agree when you're in your fifties and your sixties, is

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Speaker 1: good sex important or is it more about companionship.

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Speaker 2: I think that good sex is important in every marriage

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Speaker 2: or every relationship, not even marriage, just every relationship. And

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if you're twenty or seventy. And I

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Speaker 2: think it looks a little bit different. You know, women

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Speaker 2: after they go through menopause, you know, get as dry

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're ripping it off, guys.

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Speaker 3: Here nothing's off topic, unless, of course, you get bioidentical hormones.

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Speaker 3: And I'm as wet as a teenager, so is you not?

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Speaker 2: Between the two of us were normal?

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's it's very important at least intimacy,

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Speaker 3: because some men at a certain age cannot perform one way.

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Speaker 3: There's always orals, you know what you should be very

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Speaker 3: comfortable with. But intimacy is very important, whether their sexual

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Speaker 3: act itself is done or not, just making out or touching.

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, And I also remember after I went through menopause.

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Speaker 2: I remember that having sex it was freeing in a

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Speaker 2: getting pregnant. I remember that distinctly. Oh this is great.

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Speaker 2: I think frequency changes, not that I didn't use birth control.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying the worry of oh God, did I

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Speaker 2: take my pill? Where is my I youd gonna fall out?

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Speaker 2: I mean things, you don't worry about it anymore. But

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Speaker 2: I think that maybe frequency changes.

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Speaker 1: How often do you think in a healthy relationship should

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Speaker 2: What time is it.

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Speaker 3: You don't have kids in the house anymore, like you

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Speaker 3: have a lot more free time. So yeah, a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so two times a week, three times a week,

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Speaker 1: four time. I need numbers.

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Speaker 2: Ends on the.

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Speaker 4: Week and your life schedule.

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Speaker 2: I think it depends on the guy. Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 2: My personal experience has been that. So my husband, you know,

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Speaker 4: But had one. In other words, I had.

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Speaker 2: I had. The men that I have had sex with,

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Speaker 1: I need to know more about.

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Speaker 4: This, I tho, I was, can you recharge the battery?

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Speaker 1: How do you guys even meet your guys?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: How do you meet guys?

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Speaker 4: That's the hard part, is it?

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Speaker 4: Do I bring that up? I mean I'm dyas okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Why we both agree? Dating apps for us, they

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Speaker 2: they have not worked. And in my case, we've talked

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Speaker 2: younger men. But it's hard at our age because.

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Speaker 4: They want somebody younger. They want somebody younger.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the men your age want younger.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, they're fools.

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Speaker 3: However, we have a little story.

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Speaker 2: It just happened last night, the night before, and I

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, lay it on me.

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Speaker 3: So Kathy keeps an eye on my spending, if you will,

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Speaker 3: need anything, and it was expensive, and I said to him,

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Speaker 2: She doesn't want me to bitch and moan about the

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Speaker 3: So long story short, he had all my information. I

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Speaker 3: a text message, Susan, if you'd like to have some

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Speaker 2: What And he was like twenty eight years old? Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, we had died. We were down. Then the

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is so fascinating. Okay, so I

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what I expected you to respond. Actually,

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Speaker 3: So there used to be a rule, right, you had

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's what we teach our daughters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Really, Oh it's my daughter going to hear this.

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Speaker 4: Ooops, I don't on the first date.

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Speaker 2: No, you know, I've had sex with a guy that

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that well, interestingly, the guy that I

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Speaker 2: I'm old fashioned, it's that I felt like if I

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Speaker 2: to me that we were going down that road, and

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Speaker 2: I think he was just he kept saying to me,

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Speaker 2: you know, sex is just an experience and to getting

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Speaker 2: to know you and not.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's different. It means different things for different people.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that once you give it up that

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Speaker 1: You're invested emotionally. That's for me, yes, yeah, that's I

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Speaker 2: I don't think of sex as going out and playing

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Speaker 2: but it's you know, it's not like grocery shopping either,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think to a lot of people it does.

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Speaker 1: Chemistry is super important, like that energy that you just

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Speaker 1: really no, Susan always has chemistry in the bedroom. Liqut her.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, so we're could have just stopped it. Susan

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Speaker 4: I don't get to the bedroom if there's no chemistry.

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Speaker 3: It was like the cherry on top, exactly what I

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Speaker 4: That is part of sex.

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Speaker 1: It's so important.

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Speaker 1: You need it. It's good. I mean, at our age,

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Speaker 2: Y I will say to you. I think that's another

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Speaker 2: and I are outspoken. But I have no problem telling

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Speaker 2: And I think what younger women sometimes are afraid to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they want to please, please, they want to please.

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Speaker 3: I make men feel uncomfortable because I tell them what

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Speaker 3: I do. I have toys, I have my own. I

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Speaker 3: gave one Kathy for her birthday. It's called the Womanizer.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's made a man. However, I made that

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Speaker 3: physical touch. I missed that making out. But as far

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Speaker 3: that's done on a regular The closest I.

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Speaker 2: Have come to an orgasm recently is using Nars blush,

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Speaker 2: and the name of it is called orgasm.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you can teach someone to be a

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Speaker 3: You can direct and you can speak it and tell

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Speaker 2: I don't think all men necessarily are invested in learning

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Speaker 3: I think some are and some are well you would

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Speaker 2: So you've got to bed Susan.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned before the little blue pill. Yeah, okay, so

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Speaker 1: I've never messed around with a little blue pill. My

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Speaker 1: viagra I want nap agra. Viagra is incredibly common with

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Speaker 2: But so unless you're like Susan, you know, who's got

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Speaker 1: Have you ever gotten with a guy and maybe you

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Speaker 2: I think that's maybe it's having you. It's a myth

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Speaker 1: On it I think they would right away.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, they should make a blue pill for women.

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Speaker 2: They do, I will say they do, they, But Jenny,

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Speaker 3: Not for me, but well, doctor explained to me one time.

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Speaker 1: Like, how how old were you when this happened my fifties?

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Speaker 3: We've all been that person though at night. To keep

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I know now at this stage of the game, I

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Speaker 1: Now right, Well, that's what happens. You've decided to choose yourself,

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Speaker 2: And where I'm coming from the sexual experiences I've had,

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Speaker 3: I know women that have gone years and have no desire,

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Speaker 3: which is okay if that's okay with them.

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Speaker 2: It's only okay in my mind if both parties agreed.

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Speaker 2: I think that really, you know, they talk about what

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Speaker 3: I have friends that you know, actually Kathy, that do

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Speaker 4: They have a great time.

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Speaker 2: But so, justin why aren't we dating? We are sexual beings.

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Speaker 3: Well know, you think it's because we're too loud or

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Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I mean guys are intimidated by that, but.

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Speaker 1: You're funny. You're funny. Okay, Wait, I have a question, Yes,

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Speaker 2: We have different answers. So a little known fact but

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Speaker 2: Body my body image problems because I used to weigh

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Speaker 2: My skin is not as tight even though I work out.

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Speaker 2: I know, but it's exacerbated by the fact that I

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Speaker 2: But for me, it's a little struggle in the beginning.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to guess that you don't have body image issues.

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Speaker 1: When it's time to get naked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you like to dim the lights?

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Speaker 3: I used to be a dark girl, yes, because I

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Speaker 2: And now it's like, wait, it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't sleep with somebody that I wasn't comfortable with

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Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? I would know this

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Speaker 4: It's not what it.

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Speaker 4: Things aren't as firm.

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Speaker 3: And he was like, oh my god, the way you

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Speaker 4: You have an amazing body.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's good to hear. That makes you

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Speaker 1: You're in your head about it and they're in their

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Speaker 2: So and I think, like most things, if you just

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Speaker 2: communicate that fact that, hey, you know, I'm a little

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Speaker 2: when I was younger, please don't look, yeah tell me

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Speaker 2: now it's like good, like Susan. It's a little uncomfortable

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Speaker 3: I've grown into my own skin? Though I don't care anymore.

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Speaker 3: And I know men appreciate a woman's body, and it's

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Speaker 1: No right, yeah, no, well the problem is they're looking

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Speaker 2: So that you and Kathy both say that a lot.

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Speaker 2: I want to know, Jenny, how you got a guy

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Speaker 2: nine years younger? Yeah? What if we do? That's what

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Speaker 2: I because Jenny's younger than us. That that's what I want.

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Speaker 2: I want, But you know you're want younger.

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Speaker 2: I would date someone ten years younger.

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Speaker 4: It's things in life.

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Speaker 1: There's definitely a difference because if you're dating a younger guy,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily true. I realized that I'm

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's hard. It's hard to find those guys

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Speaker 2: what I'm looking for that guy. My son, Susan actually

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Speaker 2: Susan married them in She's ten years older than my

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Speaker 1: That's so good to hear. Yeah, I mean personally speaking,

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Speaker 2: Media.

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Speaker 1: That was a setup, like a blind date, as blind

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Speaker 2: Talk about bodies, right, Yeah, that's what.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I do with that, Like, can

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Speaker 2: I know, right, But I do think that, you know,

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Speaker 2: just getting back to our original conversation, I unless unless

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I you know, I don't care.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing to each their own. Whatever works for you.

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Speaker 1: But it's good if you're with somebody that you're on

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Speaker 3: That's really So it's not just the idea of sex,

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Speaker 4: It's just the sex thing is good.

441
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 3: I like the romance, the intimacy, the intimacy, and.

442
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: That's what I was saying earlier. Like for me, if

443
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to do bet with the man, there's I

444
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 2: feel something. It's not It's like I said, it's not

445
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: an activity. It's not like the French and the Italians.

446
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 2: It's just such ya su.

447
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: I like I call it pillow talk.

448
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 4: I like, yes, I want to get romantic.

449
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Okay, So do you guys sext

450
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: Is sexting a thing?

451
00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: Have I ever?

452
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 4: I don't sex, Kathy, No, like, thank god.

453
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: Our guys in their fifties and sixties sexting still yeah.

454
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: And now you know with with video, I mean there's

455
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff that goes on. I will personally

456
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 2: say I do not send pictures because I know those

457
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: could end up anywhere.

458
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 3: Oh Jeff, you might see my boobs out there somewhere.

459
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look for. I'm gonna google it, seas.

460
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: Boobs are everywhere, Let's be honest.

461
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 4: That's funny.

462
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm not that comfortable with sexting or

463
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: anything in writing like that. I can come back to you.

464
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 4: But talking dirty? Do you like to talk dirty?

465
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: So when I was younger, I was very intimidated by that.

466
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 4: Very well, when I'm When we were younger, we didn't talk.

467
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: There wasn't texting, I mean talking you it was like

468
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: you picked up phone. You know, they had a road redial,

469
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: you remember.

470
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 3: And then when things get in my head, then I

471
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 3: start overthinking things and then i'm doing.

472
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: I don't think sexin is as big though, at least

473
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: for me, it's not as big a thing. I want

474
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 2: it in person, you know, I want to touch.

475
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 4: The connection, the connection.

476
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: I feel like the phone is a cop out.

477
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 3: Well, if I want to get somebody's attention that I

478
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: haven't seen, Like I'm in a relationship and I haven't

479
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: seen el, send a little sexy shot or something nothing

480
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 3: that I mortified about to get them go.

481
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: And then they're like Jesus, It's like they're like.

482
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 2: Susan's got a guy, but we can't talk about it yet,

483
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: but a guy that she's sort of maybe and chatting with.

484
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 2: And I saw her video with him this morning.

485
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, is this the guy for Marshalls.

486
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: No, he's gone.

487
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 4: Okay, well he's still my friend.

488
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: Okay, good, that's all.

489
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 3: He wants his friendship. And I'll see him again. I'm

490
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: sure I will, but nothing.

491
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I've been hanging out Marcus hoping the same thing

492
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: happens to me.

493
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: You're stepping it up. You're going to Neiman Marcus.

494
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: That's right now.

495
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: This is a face that's been on television and the

496
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: world seemed to think that we were a lot alike

497
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: that we should meet.

498
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: And I've been wanting because you know, Susan I are

499
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: was out here and out of here in LA and

500
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: so they've talked a few times and videoed a couple

501
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: of times. In fact, he facetimed her this morning, and

502
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: because that's who I am, I picked up the phone

503
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: and answered her phone and said, oh hello, I didn't

504
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: know you were so interested. And his face was like,

505
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: oh you like, where are my child? That's great, but

506
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: I but you were very flirty with him. I can

507
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: see where this of a chemistry.

508
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: This is exciting.

509
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you think I was flirty? Are you kidding me?

510
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 4: What did I do?

511
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: I didn't do it in front of him, but she's

512
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 3: talking about it, and I knew I was going to

513
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 3: see you and I have.

514
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: She was talking about her nip arriving and where nipples. Oh,

515
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: I love him and I'm sitting like you marry comfort.

516
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: That is very flirty.

517
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: You're right, but can you believe she just said to me,

518
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: Jenny and my flirting talking about your nipples?

519
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 4: It was something I had to do.

520
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: Excuse me, I got to get off the screen. I

521
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: got to put my nipples.

522
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not that sexy.

523
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 2: Sorry, been like this.

524
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: I want to talk about something that's a little you know,

525
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: just a little bit more deep.

526
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: You mean Susan's nipples aren't deep enough for I'm.

527
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 1: Enjoying that conversation greatly, but I want to talk about like,

528
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: when you're looking for love again, our minds kind of

529
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: automatically go to, oh, they had a divorce, But for

530
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: so many out there, looking for love again is because

531
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: of a loss. Does having a sexual relationship become more

532
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: complicated if your partner has lost a spouse or if

533
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: you have lost a.

534
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 4: Spouse, depending on the time. She could answer that better

535
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 4: than me, because I didn't. But I wouldn't want.

536
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: Somebody friendly out of losing his spouse, his wife. I'm

537
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 3: not going to replace anybody. I couldn't be who he

538
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: was with. So I would just hope that there was

539
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: some time in between and he was open and ready.

540
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: Like when you watch Joan the other night, when last

541
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 3: week when she said I don't know if I'm ready,

542
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: and when she accepted the fact that she's not going

543
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: to replace her husband. She'll always have the memory of him.

544
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: But that's more. I mean, that's to be opened the law.

545
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: That's true. I think for me, my husband died. It's

546
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: five and a half years ago, and I think I

547
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: thought I was ready earlier for sex and an intimate

548
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: relationship before I really was ready. I mean, I can

549
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: honestly say now I will never my husband will. I

550
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: always will carry him in my heart, and just like

551
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: having children, my heart is expanded to be open to

552
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: a new relationship and such. I've never compared. I just

553
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: never compared emotionally, intellectually anything. I've never compared everybody because

554
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: everyone's different. I think I think it would have been

555
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: a lot harder if I'd been in serious relationships too soon.

556
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: You have to have that time to have at that time.

557
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: You know, to get through grief, you have to walk

558
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: through it and to get to a place where you're

559
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: ready for an intimate relationship. It takes a lot of

560
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 2: work and time. I was never divorced, Susan's divorced. I

561
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: think it looks a little different to someone who has

562
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: lost a partner that was happily. I mean, all meagers

563
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,239
Speaker 2: have issues where you you know your husband's alive and

564
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: she was ready to move on. Mine was abruptly taken

565
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: from me. So I think it depends on the situation.

566
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm very sorry for your loss.

567
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: Thank you.

568
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: That's so hard that I know so many women out

569
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: there listening are faced with that, and it's it's so

570
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: complicated and layered the emotions around it.

571
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: It is, But I just I wish women would understand

572
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: that you have to give yourself grace and time. And

573
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: you know, my husband died by suicide, so I had

574
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: a lot of guilt and fear all kinds of things,

575
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: and life is not over. That's the message. I always

576
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: your your intimate relationships, you can have another one. It's

577
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: not it's not defaming your relationship you had. It's not

578
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: saying I forget that. It's just it's it's the one

579
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: life we have.

580
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: And other people some women feel like they're not even worthy.

581
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, they don't feel worthy, and they feel like

582
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: their life is over. And that's the message that life

583
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: is not over your sex life. You know you are

584
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: in control. You can get up off the sofa and

585
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: yourself a new life.

586
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: And I have a suggestion for this, Lady's he womanizer.

587
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 4: Oh and you do it.

588
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: It's really feels.

589
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: So much better.

590
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: Well, I feel one hundred thousand percent better if I

591
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: have an orgasm. It's a healthy thing for me for

592
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: my attitude changes. I can roll with this.

593
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: It's a chemical difference.

594
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so chemical.

595
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 4: Yes, it is. The women that are stuck home and

596
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 4: feeling so low. Try it.

597
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: See what happens.

598
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 3: You'll make yourself happy, might be more open to finding

599
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: somebody you.

600
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: Know, right, Yeah, might ignite something.

601
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: I also think women feel guilty. We've talked about this.

602
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: I think women at any age sometimes feel guilty for

603
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: wanting to feel sexually satisfied, Like you it's that Victorian

604
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 2: thing where you're not supposed to not you know, but

605
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: I do think some women. Don't you think some women

606
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: feel that way? Oh I hope that's not healthy. I

607
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: did say it was healthy.

608
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: I just say feel like they feel like they don't deserve,

609
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: not me.

610
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: I think there are women, I think, at every age

611
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: who believe sex is something to produce children. You don't

612
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: have sex for enjoyment. You have sex because you're going

613
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: to appropriate. I think there's still women.

614
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 4: All the Catholics might still feel like that.

615
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

616
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 1: I feel like that women have always just worried about pleasing, pleasing, pleasing, especially.

617
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 4: In bed, until you're fifty.

618
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: Until you're fifty, and then you're like.

619
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what. I might have said a little

620
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: before fifty, but what does your husband please you? First?

621
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: Yes, there's importance right there. Men that want to go

622
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 4: in and go what whoa wha wha what who?

623
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: What?

624
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: What?

625
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: Do we know? My man? Thank you man?

626
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: Though, we're gonna do this, We're gonna have fun, We're

627
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: gonna explore each other.

628
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, do you have a bus to catch or not?

629
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes? Not ever? Don't you ever just want a quick

630
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: little thing and be done with it right.

631
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's that when I was married.

632
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: But I don't have a boyfriend now, so I don't

633
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: get to do any of the buves.

634
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: You want to enjoy the game.

635
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: When we do it, it's going to take out, going

636
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: to milk it having what is that I want?

637
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: Roses and champagne. Room.

638
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: Oh, let's do it for hours and trades, just pouring

639
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: raining outside.

640
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: That's the best when it's raining out.

641
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: For a fire race, turned up music, champagne.

642
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 4: Not so much the lifeguard stand or anything. You know what,

643
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: remember those things the back of the car back.

644
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 5: In the day.

645
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: Wait, you did it in a lifeguard stand.

646
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: I tried. I couldn't do it.

647
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: What do you mean you couldn't do it?

648
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: I mean I stood there while they did it, but

649
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: I didn't want to do anything.

650
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, was it in the daytime or a nighttime?

651
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: Nighttime?

652
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: It's just making sure.

653
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: Because I'm so outspoken and comfortable with the conversation of it,

654
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: people assume a lot of things about me that are

655
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: mostly not true.

656
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: But that's okay if you want to think it.

657
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: I come across like I was easy and have multiple

658
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: millions of partners, and I have not, But I'm not

659
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 3: here to explain that to anybody. I don't care what

660
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: they don't like. People think I have tattoos all the time.

661
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: You must think tattoos everybody.

662
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: Why would they they assume.

663
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: People assume because I'm loud and i'm both bull and I'm.

664
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: Super quiet, and I have tattoos. So there you go.

665
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: You don't have any in your loud.

666
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: I've never heard tattoos going with being lacked. I've never

667
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: heard that.

668
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: They just it's just a personality thing because I don't

669
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: have to say the word of naxis.

670
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: But I'm fine.

671
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

672
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: You're outspoken. Yeah, you're fun.

673
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: That's what it covered.

674
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 4: I wrote motorcycle right away. They thought, oh, you're tad.

675
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: I'm pierced, but I'm.

676
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: W wait wait, wait, wait we you're pierced yeah in

677
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: your ears?

678
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: Yes you're not.

679
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: You're not piercing any place, not anymore because.

680
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: You had to take it out.

681
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: I didn't.

682
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 4: I made the doctor do it.

683
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: Wait where was the piercing?

684
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: Please?

685
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 4: Can I okay?

686
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: In your vaginal area? Right, okay, I've never explored that.

687
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 4: Yes, I did that for my fiftieth birthday.

688
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: Why did you do that?

689
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 3: Because it was something that I thought was cool and

690
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: I didn't want to tattoo you know what, I want

691
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 3: to do something.

692
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: She did it. She could be the guy. It was

693
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 2: called a great conversation starter.

694
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well did it hurt? And how was it? No?

695
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 4: And then it was professionally done?

696
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: And how did it did it get in the way

697
00:34:59,320 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: of things?

698
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: We never never? Actually I thought it would do more

699
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 4: than it did.

700
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: You thought would help you. I thought it.

701
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: Would stimulate either him or I or something that it

702
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: was a novel.

703
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: It was, it was. It was an earring that he

704
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: lost its partner lost its way.

705
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: I feel like though, at seventy I'm going to do

706
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: it again. Okay, yeah, sixty nine.

707
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: Okay, sixty nine, I like that better.

708
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably gonna have to go with her, Kathy

709
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: and make sure it's done right.

710
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: I would love for a partner to go with me,

711
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: like in a relationship and he think it was cool

712
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: and hold my hand and go in and do it

713
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: together like that would kill me.

714
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: You are wild. I've had in the nineties. I had

715
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: my belly button pierced. That's it. That's about it. I

716
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: thought it was so cool. Can we just talk about

717
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelor at what do you.

718
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 3: They're all so warm and and they shared their emotions

719
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 3: about it.

720
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: How many times do you cry during one of them?

721
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: I can't stop crying.

722
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 4: Well, I got choked up when their kids came on.

723
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: That was Yeah. I think I think when I thought

724
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: about our season, I think that these men are showing,

725
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: like we showed on our show, that they're mature, they

726
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 2: have feelings, they know how to have fun, their lives

727
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: aren't over, They're ready to be vulnerable. They're they're grateful

728
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: for their life experiences and I love that.

729
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 4: One of the hardest parts for me and I want

730
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 4: to date with one of them.

731
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: I was watching them at the Rose ceremony and that

732
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: hope in their eyes.

733
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: I remember what that felt like. Yes, like oh God,

734
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 4: my name.

735
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: But don't you love that the hope you can feel.

736
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: Maybe we've talked about this. Maybe its because we were

737
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: on the show. We know what they feel, what they're feeling,

738
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: and they're all they're hoping for a second chance at love.

739
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: They you know, and then they get disappointed and it's crushing.

740
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 5: It's so you know whatck Coathy and Susan right, Okay,

741
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 5: just may not be speaking to someone on that show.

742
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: He may or may not be speaking to someone, said

743
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: Kathy Noddy, who was on that show.

744
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: Who is it? Is it Charles?

745
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: No?

746
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: Oh, God bless Charles.

747
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: The world loves him.

748
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: I know, how do you think Joan is handling all

749
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: these men? And who do you think she has the

750
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: most chemistry with?

751
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: Well, from the day one, we had a couple of

752
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: people and we had we had a different form.

753
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: But guy, we thought she got and Jordan.

754
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, In this week's episode, Chalk did some shocking things.

755
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: He went home because his mother passed away. So then

756
00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: he came back.

757
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 4: That's just it, that's it.

758
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: He came back.

759
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: You know why because he's falling in love and I

760
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: think she has a sparkle in our eyes for him

761
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: with that version.

762
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: We know her, we know Joan, So when she was

763
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: on the day, you could see a sparkling, right. I mean,

764
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: like I said it from the beginning, my money's on Chalk.

765
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: That's why I thought it, from the first time I

766
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: saw them together.

767
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: Well, thank god he came back then.

768
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: And it's funny because that's what Joe.

769
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 2: Trust me, we've tried to find out Joan won't tell.

770
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: Us on our show.

771
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: It was that first important date that he ended up with,

772
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: whether very great decision or not. But that's Teresa was

773
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: the first date that they bonded over similar things. And

774
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: I just saw the same thing with Chuck and Joan body.

775
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 2: So it's also the look. I mean, I know, I'm

776
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: not sure people you know out in Vachelor Nation, but

777
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: we know her, we're friends with her. And then there's

778
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: a look in her eye, the smile. We were watching

779
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 2: together and we both put each other and that's looking

780
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: pretty promising. And we know who's left over, yeah, we know.

781
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: And then there's I think Guy. I think she's interested

782
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: in Guy. He's the er doctor. I mean, she's she's

783
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: getting down to it now because she's sending lots of people.

784
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: Home and tough. Yeah, it's so hard. I have to

785
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: ask you this though in your your season, would you

786
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: have slept with Gary?

787
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: That's where she says.

788
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: No, emphatic no, across the board. That's what I thought.

789
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: Great now, But you know what I'm I Both Susan

790
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: and I are the same on this. We were in

791
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: the friend zone real quickly with Gary, and he's a

792
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: nice guy. But but I would not I would not

793
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: want to send the message to the world that you know,

794
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: I've done this guy for three weeks and and talk

795
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: to him, you know, accumulation of what an hour and

796
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: a half if I had a one on one And

797
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: now I'm gonna bed down.

798
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: Let's see just what I have with the show is

799
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: they don't get enough time to get to know each other.

800
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: I wish I think Jones getting more time.

801
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: Well, yes he has a two hour show, but I

802
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: really wish that they would maybe lessen the amount of

803
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: people and let an actual, you know, relationship start with

804
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: several people to make that decision and Quarry.

805
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: We've talked to Gary and he said to me, I

806
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: wish I'd gotten to know you better, Kathy. I just

807
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 2: didn't know who you were. And that's true. We caught

808
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: up in the moment we got moment we hardly talked.

809
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: I mean, although I'm grateful there is a show, but

810
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: now rumor has some I don't know, paradise thing for a.

811
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: Seniors Susan's going to be exhibiting all her tattoos.

812
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: Right, I'm so ready for that.

813
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to be wearing.

814
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: However, they can't do it the same number one.

815
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm not going with bugs and I'm not worry.

816
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: But paradise to us is different, way different.

817
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like my idea camping is no phone in

818
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 3: the room.

819
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: But you know what I got to say, I could

820
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: fall in love. We're both sitting on that way fall

821
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: You fall fast and fall hard. If I found something

822
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: I was interested in, yeah, I could see me falling.

823
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: In love well, but I was head over heels over Gary.

824
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: I would have been a whole different character. I was

825
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: totally man, you can't hide from you.

826
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: One of us wanted to go pick corn and you know,

827
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: run through corn mazes in Indiana, Like it wasn't an

828
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: exciting but he's a nice time.

829
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: Do you think that in the Fantasy Sweet episode, yes,

830
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: I just what happens in there when the cameras are.

831
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: Off, something that needs to happen happens. You are not

832
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: being filmed, you are not being recorded. You speak from

833
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: the soul. The majority of the world thinks you're getting late,

834
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: and maybe.

835
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 4: Some people do. Oh, I think I think not.

836
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: It's a bad I don't know because we were not

837
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: in the Fantasy suite right with each other or conversations,

838
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: but I think they have the conversations about you know,

839
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: Fancis and life and children. Does it work? Yeah, but

840
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: I think they all take the blue pill or is

841
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: this a nutural thing? You know what? That would not

842
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: be the conversation I'd be having the fantasy suite. But

843
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: I think that those are important conversations to have because

844
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: it's such a truncated section of your life. It's fast

845
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: experience and.

846
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 4: But you need those.

847
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

848
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know Joe made a statement prior to the

849
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: show that she was not going to sleep over. Well,

850
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: you know what, people get late in two hours and

851
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: you could still leave the room at two am.

852
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 4: So don't think that's what's going to convince the world.

853
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: I'm serious.

854
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: Well, she's she's going into it trying to be respectable,

855
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: but she wants to put out the right message. You

856
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: guys are so amazing. I love that you're just like

857
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: open books and talking to women of a certain age

858
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: about all this because nobody's talking about it, and we

859
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: should all be just talking about openly and sharing our experiences.

860
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: Even women at a younger age can get things from us.

861
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

862
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we started this whole thing. I said, it's a

863
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: normal body function. It's like sex should be part of

864
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: everyone's life. It's part of life and a good sex life.

865
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: But I have daughters, you don't want to experience it

866
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: until way later, well until.

867
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: They're mostly ready. But you know, I think we're old enough.

868
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 4: We are not dead yet.

869
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: You you are in your prime, this lumor, you're both

870
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: so amazing, and it's okay to want different things in

871
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: your relationships as you grow and change, you know, and

872
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: just identifying them those things and knowing what's important to

873
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: you and finding a person that matches up.

874
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 3: And possibly a lot of your listeners and a lot

875
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: of people judge both of us, but I know I've

876
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: been judged for well, I'm not like you, Susan.

877
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 4: I'm not outgoing, and I'm not this, and I'm not that.

878
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 3: But you have feelings inside, you have thoughts, and when

879
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: you become of a certain age, you're less intimidated maybe

880
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 3: by what others are thinking.

881
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: You're comfortable in your own skin. But I think also

882
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: she's absolutly right. I couldn't agree with you more.

883
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: That's nice scary when we're your brain.

884
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I think I would want your

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Speaker 2: And so people who are sitting at home saying I'm

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Speaker 2: do to ourselves, I think it's a progression, and so

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Speaker 2: the womanizer, then go back out. In other words, sex good,

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Speaker 2: healthy sex, like intimacy, doesn't just happen right. You have

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Speaker 3: Intimidated out And the only other thing I could hopefully

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Speaker 3: suggest is be comfortable in your own skins. Be okay

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Speaker 3: with your body, no matter what it looks like, because

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Speaker 3: none of us look great except who you are.

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Speaker 2: Except who you are.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's my whole thing. I just want everybody who's

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Speaker 1: listening to remember. If you take nothing away from this conversation,

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Speaker 1: take away the fact that the second time around at

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Speaker 1: love starts with loving yourself.

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Speaker 2: If you don't love yourself, you can't possibly love someone else.

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Speaker 2: You have to love your self to be open to

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