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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyon. In this is episode number fifty seven,

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Speaker 1: say in the show. It's our two thousand fifteen challenge episode.

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Speaker 1: Stick around and we'll explain. All right, Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt Podcast, brought to you by Sick of Gear. Now,

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Speaker 1: today's episode is going to be a little different than usual,

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Speaker 1: as we've got kind of a unique topic and a

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Speaker 1: shorter episode because in all honestly, I've kind of got

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Speaker 1: some casks going on here at the moment at home,

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Speaker 1: so we're going to keep things brief. But it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good one, nonetheless. And with that said, rather

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Speaker 1: than beating around the bush stand today, we're going to

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Speaker 1: be challenging each other, both you and me and our listeners.

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Speaker 1: We're all going to get challenged. So what exactly does

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Speaker 1: that mean? Are you asking? Me? Yeah? Okay, okay, I

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Speaker 1: thought that was one of those and what is the

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Speaker 1: meaning of the life type of questions. I know that

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Speaker 1: was just for you, okay, okay, Well, I you know,

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Speaker 1: I was I do a lot of brainstorming, as you know,

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Speaker 1: by the random texts that you get from me, or

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Speaker 1: or like the Sound Effect brainstorm last week sound and

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Speaker 1: you know, we did a little test with our audience

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Speaker 1: and they didn't like that. They thought I was dumb.

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't get any real feedback on it yet,

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Speaker 1: so we might maybe we should call out and see

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Speaker 1: what they want. You know. Yep, you're right, you're right.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're right. We probably shouldn't give up on it

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Speaker 1: too too quickly, right, I think you I think we

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Speaker 1: should keep on testing that out and tweet tweet at

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Speaker 1: us UM and give us your feedback on that this week,

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Speaker 1: because I think maybe I think there's a future for

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Speaker 1: you with the Sound Effect game. Damn okay, alright, you

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Speaker 1: like the guy off the movie Police Academy movies. I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen them. Oh my god, that really shows your

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Speaker 1: age or like what fifteen years ago? Yeah, two thousand,

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Speaker 1: so I'm just approaching sixty years old. Hey, you're doing

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Speaker 1: pretty good, you know for a sixteen year old doing

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Speaker 1: the best. So already, Yeah, that's how we roll UM

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Speaker 1: so challenges your brainstorming. You brought this idea to me,

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Speaker 1: go alright, So I think as hunters, we kind of

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Speaker 1: get into a rut or a routine where we do

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Speaker 1: the same thing over and over and we don't we

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Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable getting outside of that, come of that

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Speaker 1: comfort zone. We we kind of um lose ourselves in routine.

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Speaker 1: And although dear are an animal of routine, I feel

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Speaker 1: that the best way to learn an animal of routine

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Speaker 1: is to kind of get outside your routine as a

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Speaker 1: hunter and and maybe, um try something different. So I

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Speaker 1: talked to I talked to you, and I was like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: how about you challenge me a couple of things, and

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Speaker 1: I'll challenge you a couple of things and uh um

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Speaker 1: and maybe we'll we'll see if that and we will

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Speaker 1: promise that we will do that, you know, whatever we

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Speaker 1: whatever challenges, we will promise that we'll do it a

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Speaker 1: couple of times throughout the season and uh and we'll

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Speaker 1: see if it works and see if we like it,

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Speaker 1: see if we don't like it, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll we'll save this episode and then we'll touch

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Speaker 1: back on it, you know, maybe a halfway through the

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Speaker 1: season or if the seasons when the season is over,

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Speaker 1: and see, uh, see if it worked. Or not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I like the idea, and I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: as you know, I was thinking about it too, and

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Speaker 1: I got to thinking, you know, it's a great idea

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Speaker 1: for you and me to challenging each other and for

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Speaker 1: us to come back and talk about it. But I

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Speaker 1: also thought, why don't we also think of a challenge

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Speaker 1: for the listeners, you know, based on some of the

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Speaker 1: things we've talked about maybe the past, or some things

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Speaker 1: that you and may have been thinking about, Let's give

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Speaker 1: a challenge or two to the listeners. And I haven't

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Speaker 1: told you this yet, but I was thinking, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's let's put the challenge out there. And then what

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Speaker 1: I want to do is is I wanna reward those

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Speaker 1: people that want to participate in the challenge in some way.

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Speaker 1: So this is kind of a spitballing here, but what

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Speaker 1: do you think Dan about? You know, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: that challenge. Everyone gets to hear what that challenges and

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna ask people to do is this season,

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Speaker 1: this hunting season, if someone listening today actually fulfills that challenge,

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Speaker 1: goes out there and does that experiences that tries that

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Speaker 1: if you remember this and if you come back to

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Speaker 1: this episode, this actual blog post for this episode Wired

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Speaker 1: to Hunt dot Com slash episode fifty seven. Go to

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Speaker 1: that and leave a comment explaining who you are and

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Speaker 1: how you completed that task. We're gonna pick one winner,

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Speaker 1: and i'd say December. I'll pick one person that's left

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Speaker 1: a comment here at the very beginning December one. I

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Speaker 1: guess unless our challenges, you know, our later season. But

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Speaker 1: at the end of this episode, I guess I'll figure

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Speaker 1: out date, and I am going to buy one person

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Speaker 1: that completes this challenge a sick of Fanatic hoodie out

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Speaker 1: of my own pocket. I'll buy a sick of Fanatic

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Speaker 1: hoodie for one of the people, will randomly pick one

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Speaker 1: person that writes an explanation of how they completed that challenge.

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Speaker 1: So that's a good deal, that's my thought. I thought

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Speaker 1: that'd be kind of cool, and I want, you know,

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Speaker 1: people to really think about this and try some of

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Speaker 1: these things. So I think that's a good idea. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: considering uh that sick jackets pretty badass, Yeah, pretty legit.

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Speaker 1: So so that's I'm up in the any here, Dan

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Speaker 1: up in the any all right, So hopefully our hopefully

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Speaker 1: our listeners have what it takes. What do you think

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Speaker 1: they have it? I hope so. I think they've got

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Speaker 1: They've got a better chance of pulling it off than

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Speaker 1: you or may probably do. So, yeah, that's a fact

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Speaker 1: because we most likely don't have what it takes. Based

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Speaker 1: about ten minutes ago, you definitely don't have what it takes.

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Speaker 1: Right now, my friend, you sound rough, You sound hagged,

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Speaker 1: You sound haggard. Haggard. Yeah, that's kind of cool, like

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Speaker 1: myrtle haggard, or like like living in a ditch haggard. No,

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Speaker 1: like you live underneath the bridge on a steady diet

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Speaker 1: of government cheese, that kind of haggard. Oh, perfect, perfect,

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Speaker 1: that's that's not what I was going for. I didn't

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Speaker 1: think that's what happens when you have, um a kid

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Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, they'll Mack will cover our sound effects today, right, yep,

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Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. So it's been a little roughly. Huh. Well,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't sleep, and when he doesn't sleep, that means

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Speaker 1: just adds to the snowball of stress that is my life.

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Speaker 1: How much are you looking forward to that weeklong vacation outnightaho?

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Speaker 1: white hairs in my my faux beard, my attempting beard. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I'll be catching up you, but we'll should we

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Speaker 1: get the party started? Yeah? Yeah we should. Challenges challenges Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know this is your idea. So do

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Speaker 1: I've got for the two thousand fifteen season. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: kick it off. Um, And my my challenge to you

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Speaker 1: so I've talked to you in expressed that I am

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Speaker 1: So that is my challenge to you is to try

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Speaker 1: to find a stand location that might be beneficial hunting

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Speaker 1: the early season, but you know, the between the food

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Speaker 1: and the betting areas. So my challenge to you is too,

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Speaker 1: to keep that in mind, um that I feel that

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Speaker 1: there are several benefit fits and if you do it right,

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Speaker 1: you can be successful hunting early season in October. So

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Speaker 1: on why I've hesitated from doing that too much recently

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Speaker 1: found some stand locations um where I have and this

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna step. But so the reason why you know

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Speaker 1: finally started paying more attention to um to like your

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Speaker 1: to look at the risk of educating deer. And so

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Speaker 1: look at those odds I don't look at Okay, how

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Speaker 1: how likely is it that I might spook something? And

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Speaker 1: so when I'm looking at those early October mornings, in

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Speaker 1: most cases that I've seen and from a lot of

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Speaker 1: get to eat the sandwich. And then I'm really pumped

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Speaker 1: between eleven thirty and noon because I know a sandwich

429
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Speaker 1: is coming. And then at like two o'clock I'm allowed

430
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Speaker 1: to have my Snickers bar or whatever it might be,

431
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Speaker 1: and I bring enough to span you know, every couple hours,

432
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 1: I've got some little snack to look forward to. I

433
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: bring snacks when I check my trail came. It gets

434
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: you through that ten minute walk. Yeah, or order the

435
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: the five yard walk between the truck and the trail

436
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: camera right, get back in the truck. Oh gosh, give

437
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: him a protein bar. I need to. I need a carbload. Well,

438
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: you might need to bring a second backpack for all

439
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: the food you don't need for this then, and bring water.

440
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: Bring lots of water. And I usually bring like a

441
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: one caffeinated drink to like a mountain dew or something.

442
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: I did bring coffee last year because it was so cold. Yeah,

443
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: there were some cold days during the end of the rut,

444
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: weren't there, ye as brutal. So I think you can

445
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: do it. And I think if you're in the right

446
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,959
Speaker 1: spot at the right time, you know you don't need

447
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: to do it. You know, wait for when that when

448
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: it's like the rut is popping, those best days if

449
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: you've got if you've got the right spot and the

450
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: ruts popping, it's worth sitting out there. So, um, I

451
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: know that I'm gonna talk to you like six months

452
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: from now, on November six, and we're gonna be calling

453
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: in like nine o'clock at night, since we couldn't call

454
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: it the usual time because we're out hunting, and you're

455
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: gonna be tired as hell, whooped and angry at me

456
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: but because I didn't see. But then the next day

457
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it again, and then you're gonna texting

458
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: me and tell me, dude, I just saw one sixty

459
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: six year old cruise through at And I'll be your

460
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: best friend, I hope. So that is my first challenge

461
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: for you. Do you have Do you have another challenge

462
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: you want to throw my way? Or is that all

463
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: I gotta work for before we get to that, we

464
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: need to pause for a quick message from our partners

465
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Speaker 1: at Sick of Gear. Now, as I mentioned last week,

466
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Speaker 1: moving forward, we're going to be hearing a little bit

467
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: in each episode from a Sick of Gear employee, Dennis

468
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: Suck about a number of things related to white tail

469
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: clothing and Sick of Gear. So to kick that off

470
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: this week, I just wanted for us to get to

471
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Speaker 1: know who Dennis is. So here's Dennis explaining exactly what

472
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: he does sick as a product category leader Mark. Essentially,

473
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's my job to look at the white

474
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: tail space and think about, you know, what is it

475
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: that people don't have today or what would make a

476
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 1: better hunt for them? Um, And and look at the

477
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: technologies and the things that the world has within it

478
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: and think about how to configure those things together to

479
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: make a better product, a different product, something that's unique

480
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: and interesting. Um. Predominantly that's it. But then also think about,

481
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, where does it go and where are people buying?

482
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: And you know where where do they make those decisions?

483
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? Cabella's is it? Where is it?

484
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of that and thinking about how

485
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: to position it, make sure people understand where we're going

486
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: with that, that concept of that idea, then I might

487
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: I might or others or our ambassadors athletes might come

488
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: up with and being a big time white tail hunter yourself.

489
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: Does this even feel like work or is it just

490
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: like play? And it feels like both? You know, you know,

491
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely I grew up as a young kid, you know,

492
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: white til hunt with my father and really always been

493
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: on arch free guy, you know, coming to these things

494
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, that's gonna be a lot of fun,

495
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: and it never quit being fun. But there's absolutely a

496
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: business here and there's absolutely a lot of work that

497
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: goes into making these kinds of products. So you know,

498
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: it feels like both. But it's something that I wake

499
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: up every day happy to do and excited to do,

500
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: and you know, I really feel like doing this. You

501
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: get to make a difference to the people who you

502
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: care about, and if you grow up in that space

503
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: and it's something that means something to you, and you know,

504
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: when your kids are doing and other people are doing it,

505
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of joy that comes from that.

506
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: Not a bad gig at all. That's say so to

507
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: all of you listening. Tune in next week for more

508
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: from Dennis, product category leader at Sick of Gear, where

509
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: they turn work into play and clothing into gear. Now

510
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: back to the episode, and I know you do it

511
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: a little bit already, but I'm a firm believer. If

512
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: an area is hot, an area is hot, all right,

513
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: And this is kind of like a running gun type

514
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: thing to which you already do. But if an area

515
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: it is hot, if the wind is wrong, I don't

516
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: want you to I don't want you to not hunt it.

517
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: I want you to find alternate access routes to your

518
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: tree stands for all wind directions. So if you have

519
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: to do a running gun some evening because coming into

520
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: a bedding area clear from the opposite side, look at

521
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: your maps. Find alternate access routes to your stand locations.

522
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: So if you do have a buck coming to a

523
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: trail camera, you are able to go hunt that area

524
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: regardless of the wind direction. And then does that apply

525
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: to you know, my tree standing locations too, So I

526
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: might need to find alternative access route, but also I

527
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: might need to pop in an alternate tree standing be

528
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,239
Speaker 1: able to hunt that area because my current stand is

529
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: not quite right. That's correct, that's correct. So you know

530
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: this kind of rolls into the more time in the tree,

531
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: the better, and if you are because you know, as

532
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: we know, in the rut, we could get a very

533
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: small window to a too to move in on a deer,

534
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: and if we're moving out of the area because the

535
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: wind is bad, then we're giving up on that deer. Basically,

536
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, it does. And I think

537
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, what you're saying is what I know I

538
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: should do in a lot of cases, and you and

539
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: you know you should do right when when you got

540
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: the right spot. But gosh, sometimes it can be really

541
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: more so for me because I'm not running gunning quite

542
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: as much as you are, so it still does feel

543
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: kind of inconvenient when I have to go in there

544
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: with all my crap on my back and set up

545
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: a tree stand. I sometimes avoid that just because I'm

546
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: you occasionally get lazy, so this will be pushing me to,

547
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: you know, not give into that laziness and just find

548
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: a way to make it work and hang the stand

549
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: when you have to, because that's the spot to be. Yeah,

550
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a fair challenge. It's

551
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: what you know, that's what I'm gonna do. And there's

552
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: really no tips and tricks to it. I mean, it's

553
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: look at the weather map to find where the wind

554
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: direction is, study your your maps to find the best

555
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: access route, and um, you know where the betting areas

556
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: or food source or or pinch point or whatever you're

557
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: actually hunting that particular day, and you just gotta do it.

558
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: And even if it means cutting out one or two

559
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: extra tree stands in August, you gotta do it. Yeah,

560
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: I think you know now that I'm thinking about this.

561
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: It's it's funny too. A small move, like even like

562
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: a forty yard move. You might have a current stand

563
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: in an area and the wind's wrong for it right there.

564
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: But even if you move, you know, thirty forty yards

565
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: over and then all of a sudden you might have

566
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: to hunt just fine. So it's just a matter of

567
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, dealing with that inconvenience of pulling down a

568
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: set and hanging one up, or you know, bringing a

569
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: new set to hang up. Um. And this exact thing

570
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: actually happened to me last year with the deer I

571
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: killed in Ohio in November. Um, I had a tree

572
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: stand thirty five or forty yards away from where I

573
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: eventually hung a stand that morning, but I knew that

574
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: that was going to be in the wrong spot for

575
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: the wind, and if if I was hunting that original

576
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: tree stand, it would blow my wind right through where

577
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: I thought these deer would walk through. And so you know,

578
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: I had to come in at three thirty in the

579
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: morning and hang a new set, and it was paying

580
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: the butt, but I'm glad it did, because that buck

581
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: came right in and you know, I had the wind

582
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: blowing away from him instead of right to him. So right,

583
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: and that I've actually been um. I've wrote a couple

584
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: of articles on the nine Finger Chronicles site called micromanaging

585
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: tree stands or tree stand micro management, and the whole

586
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: point of that is exactly what you just said, being

587
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: able to move in an area where the deer are

588
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: and not having to lay off without you know, lay

589
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: off that area and let the deer then you know,

590
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: find another dough that's in the heat, and then they're

591
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: gone again and you have to find them all over again. Yeah. Yeah,

592
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: I definitely think there's been a few examples, you know,

593
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: just as I think through the past few years where

594
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: I was too quick to abandon an area where there

595
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: was you know, there was some action going on. There

596
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: was a hot do in the area, and I probably

597
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: could have pushed the push the envelope a little bit

598
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: more if I would have been willing to do it,

599
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: and in looking back, I should have, But instead I

600
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: moved on to somewhere else because of the wind or

601
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: because of whatever. And uh, I think I missed out

602
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: an opportunities probably so, So I will Challenge number two accepted.

603
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: Challenge number two accepted. So I got a final challenge

604
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: for you then too. All right, sounds good, And this

605
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: one I'm not going to force you to do this year,

606
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna ask that you do it either this

607
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: year or next year. Okay, I want you, Dan Johnson,

608
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: to hunt white tails outside of Iowa. I want you

609
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: to try hunting white tails outside of Iowa, and even

610
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna push you outside of like that core hot

611
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: spot like northern Missouri, western Illinois in Iowa, like right

612
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: that that spot right next to where you're at, that

613
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: the heart of the land of giants. I want you

614
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: to try hunting white tails somewhere else, even it's for

615
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: just for a weekend. I want to experience what guys

616
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania or Michigan or New York or Georgia or

617
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: Tennessee or wherever I want to experience a little bit

618
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: of the different side of white tailling him. Okay, so

619
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 1: you have an open invite to come to Michigan if

620
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: you want to come hunting here for a weekend to

621
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: give a try, um or you know, will you can

622
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: venture off anywhere you want or you and maybe we'll

623
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: figure out a trip next year something to go somewhere

624
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: for a long weekend public land and some other state

625
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: and test the waters there too. So that's that's my

626
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: challenge is to is to test the waters in a

627
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: different state. Okay, it's gonna have to be next year,

628
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: but challenge scepted um. And the only reason that I

629
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: might not And I don't want to sound like I'm

630
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: giving an excuse right away, but if my wife kills

631
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: me because I decide to go out of state for

632
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: another hunt, then we might have a problem understood. And

633
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: I you know, I can't if if you're dead, you

634
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: can't draw back a boat, you know, YadA YadA YadA,

635
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah I will. Well, I'll have to find some way

636
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: to to get someone to fulfill your obligations, or maybe

637
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: there can be some money that's set in your will.

638
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: So if you can't fulfill us, well I'll get like

639
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: a chunk of Chaine or something. But and that's why

640
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: it can be a very short amount time. It can

641
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: be a weekend trip and you know, find a place

642
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: with a cheap out of state license and somewhere you

643
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: can scoot to for a quick weekend in the middle

644
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: of October and just just see and uh, if we

645
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: can get the wife right to sign off on it,

646
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a good idea. All right, So

647
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: that's a doozy And if that's uh, that that one

648
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: takes some planning in preparation. It's not just simple go

649
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: out into your timber and and give her a try.

650
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: But um, I know a guy who has a lease

651
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: in Ohio that I think I might try to hunt

652
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: that One's that's a pretty good property too. That that

653
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: guy in Ohio is trying to find more properties in

654
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: Ohio too, So hopefully I have a bigger piece at

655
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: that point. So we'll we'll have to check back in

656
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: on that in a year. But keep in mind, do

657
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: someth thinking about it, and um, I think it'll be

658
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: good good fodder for us to talk about some different

659
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: places too, yea, So those are those are the challenges.

660
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: I have got to test some morning hunts in the

661
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: early season, and I've got to stay committed to hotspots

662
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: and find alternate stand locations or access routes if they

663
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: are present. So that's what I gotta do. And I

664
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: am sitting all day long? What is mine? Mine just

665
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: seems like the hardest one. Well, hey, congratulations, you get

666
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: a sit to two days in a row or two

667
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: days next. No, remember all day long? What are you

668
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: gonna do with your time? I'm gonna have to like

669
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: find download some movies or something, or I don't want

670
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: to hear a dude, I'm fourteen days straight. I'll be

671
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: in there all day probably, So I'll text you after

672
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: your second day and see how your knees are treating you,

673
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: if you need me to send you a comfort pack

674
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: or anything. So it's like a sympathy card exactly. We'll

675
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: check download some e books. I guess some e books

676
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: on my phone so you can read a little bit,

677
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, read a couple of words, look up, read

678
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: a couple of words. Some people I could just visit

679
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: wired to hunt dot com for all my Yeah, why

680
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: wasn't that the original tip. Just go to Wired dot

681
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: dot com for deer hunting news stories and strategies that'll

682
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: cover you, smart man. My last one is to start

683
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: planning for another out of state whitetail hunt. Yeah, I'm

684
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: really pushing your limits here. It Hey, sometimes the limits

685
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: need to be pushed. True story. So that said, then challenge.

686
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: We've got a listener challenge. So I've got one for listeners.

687
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: And did you come up with a challenge for listeners?

688
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: I did? Unless yours is the same as mine, well,

689
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know what yours is, but I

690
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: don't know what yours is. Well you want to, well

691
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: you should go first. You sure, Yeah you're the host,

692
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: Well you're the co host. But okay, that means nothing.

693
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad to glad to come to terms the situation. Damn. Alright.

694
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: So my challenge for everyone listening is I want everyone

695
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: listening to go out and ask for permission on at

696
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: least one new spot this summer. So even if you current,

697
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: even if you own ground, or you already have several

698
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: places that are great, you can never have too many options.

699
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: It's you know, properties disappear if you have permission on

700
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: three spots. It seems like every other year you're gonna

701
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: lose one, another one comes in, you lose one. Um,

702
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: you can never have too many options these days, especially

703
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: if you're trying to hunt as many days as you can.

704
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: Maybe you have a weak vacation and the winds wrong

705
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: for your property this day and that day. If you

706
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: had another spot, You've got options. So I want to

707
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: challenge everyone to at least ask once. I know some

708
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: people just don't like asking for permission. Some people do

709
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: it all the time and it's not a big deal.

710
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: So for those guys and girls out there, you're in

711
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: the clear. This will be an easy one for But

712
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: I know there's some of you listening who hate the

713
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: idea of walking up to a random door, knocking on

714
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: it and asking that guy or girl or whoever if

715
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: you can hunt on their back forty That's not easy

716
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: for everyone. I don't even like doing it very much.

717
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: I UM, I end up avoiding it more times than not.

718
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: But I'm trying every year to get better at it,

719
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: and UM, I want to challenge everyone to do that.

720
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna do, you know, like I mentioned earlier,

721
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: is if you decide to accept that challenge, come back

722
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: to the blog post for this one and leave us

723
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: a comment talking about how that went. So that's my challenge.

724
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Dan? I think that's

725
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: a very good challenge, um. And it really is the

726
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: starting point for any hunt is obtaining ground. Yeah. And

727
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: it's also even though you know, for those who are

728
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: a little shy or don't like doing that stuff, it

729
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: can be painful in the moment, but like as soon

730
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: as you ask, it's like this weight is off your

731
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: shoulders and if you've got permission, it's a whole new

732
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: world of opportunities. Who knows what could be on that

733
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: new property. You know, it could be a totally different

734
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: type of hunting situation than what you're used to. It

735
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: could be the promised land. You never know until you ask.

736
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: So I always say, well, I'm not always a friend

737
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: of mine always said, and it's rubbed off on me

738
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: that you know right now before you ask, the answers

739
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: already know. So it can't get any worse. You might

740
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: as well ask and maybe get it. Yes. So, so

741
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: that's what I want everyone to try. What about you?

742
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: What about you? Dan? Mine is something that we've been

743
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: preaching on this show for since the very beginning basically,

744
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: and that is to be more mobile. And you're tired

745
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: and you don't want to move that tree stand, have

746
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: a little conversation with your inside self and move your

747
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: tree stand if you if you're seeing a deer movement,

748
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, closer to a fence line or in a

749
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: different draw or in a different part of the area

750
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: that you're in, I want you to tear your tree

751
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: stand down and move it. Period. And it sucks. Sometimes

752
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: it sucks. Asked, Well, there you go. I suppose it does. Yeah,

753
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean I'm talking it really does. It sucks. I

754
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: mean there's nothing more than you know, having all your

755
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: tree stands up. You're you're ready to go for the season,

756
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: and you've been hunting five or six days in a row.

757
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: You're exhausted, and you're watching the a big buck come

758
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: out of a different point or a different draw into

759
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: a into uh, you know, a cornfield, and you know

760
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: you have to go there, but you're talking yourself in too.

761
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll come by this way, maybe he'll come here,

762
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll come here, Maybe he'll come here. There's a

763
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: good chance that you got out of that tree stand.

764
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: He already did come through after dark he busted, or

765
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: he he doesn't feel comfortable coming that direction anymore and

766
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: that's why he's going over there now. Or I mean,

767
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: you can think of a thousand different scenarios that the

768
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: end result is move your tree stand. So I want

769
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: to challenge our listeners to if the you know, scenario

770
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: calls for it, do the hard work, tear down and move.

771
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: I like it. It's a good it's a good reminder

772
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: for all of us. Free for me to you know,

773
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: kind of related to one of my challenges you gave me,

774
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: but just in general life, you know, like you said,

775
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: when you when you see a reason to move, you

776
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: need to suck it up, deal with the inconvenience of it,

777
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: and just get there. Because bow hunting, especially for mature bucks,

778
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: it's a game of inches. It's all the little details.

779
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: And if you're you know, fifty yards away from a buck,

780
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: that doesn't do you look of good if you can

781
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: only shoot to thirty five or whatever it might be.

782
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: So it got to be in the exact right spot.

783
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: So that's an awesome challenge. Yeah, hopefully hopefully all these

784
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: challenges pay off, you know. And let's say I sit

785
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: all day and I don't see anything. I can say

786
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: that I sat all day and I didn't see anything,

787
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: So it just it actually helps me. No that, Hey,

788
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: if I'm in this area, should I sit all day?

789
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: Maybe not? Maybe I should? You know, in the same

790
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: with your challenges, should I try to find you know,

791
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: should I use this access route for this wind direction?

792
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: Or um? Should I maybe try to hunt this morning?

793
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: You know, a couple of years from now after you

794
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: see the results of the of the challenge this year.

795
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all about breaking the rut, getting outside

796
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: of your comfort zone, and that can lead to more

797
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: information and as we all know, more information helps kill

798
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: dere Yeah, and and even if you try these new

799
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: things and you fail, you can you still learn something

800
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: from that. So you're trying something new, you'll either you know,

801
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: your your eyes will be open to a new thing

802
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: and a new tactic or a new idea and you

803
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: take that away, or you do it and you find out, hey,

804
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: this doesn't work because of X, or this didn't work

805
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: because of why. And if you you know, like you

806
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: and we always say, if we if we go into

807
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: a hunting season and we look at each hunt with

808
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: like your analysis hat on, so you always look at it,

809
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: and you always ask why never just go hunting and

810
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: then something happens and then just move on to the

811
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: next day. I always like try to sit back and

812
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: and look at that day, like that night when you

813
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: get back or in the next morning, you think about

814
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: the day's hunt and why does certain things happen? Why

815
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: didn't certain things happen? And try to learn something from

816
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: every single encounter, every single hunt. And if you do

817
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: that enough, it really adds up and it can completely

818
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: change how you hunt. So right, and I tell you

819
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: one last thing, and maybe you know this can help

820
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: get us a little bit of interactive um if you

821
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: want to do this or not, Mark is, let's start.

822
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: Let's start a hashtag for our social media friends, whether

823
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: it's Instagram or it's Facebook or Twitter. Let's put together

824
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: a hashtag and hashtag like W t H challenge alright,

825
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: the wire to Hunt challenge, and you guys can maybe

826
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: throw some challenges our way as well, or we can

827
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: throw some challenges your way and you know, and maybe

828
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: help refine the way we hunt. I like it. It's

829
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: a good idea. That's uh w hashtag W two HS challenge.

830
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: If you've got any comments, about what we're talking about here,

831
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: or if you want to add to any of the

832
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: things that me and Dan have said when it comes

833
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: to our challenges, or if you already have some thoughts

834
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: on the challenges we sent out to you guys, let

835
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: us know on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram with hashtag W

836
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: two h challenge and to enter the challenge to get

837
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: a to potentially win a fanatic Coodie, go to wire

838
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: to Hunt dot com slash episode fifty seven. Once you

839
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: complete one of our challenges and write up a response

840
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: explaining you know what happened, what were the results, what

841
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: you thought about it, and you know, we'll look at

842
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: those assuming you know they're they're well, you know, if

843
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: you actually took the time to give a good response,

844
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: you'll be entered and we'll pick one of those people

845
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: randomly and you'll win a an awesome fanatic Coody. So

846
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: I get a little scratch my throat here, but I

847
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: think Dan, that that's gonna wrap it up for us.

848
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: Shortened to the point today, shortened to the point. But

849
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: I think we've got some good stuff, some good challenges,

850
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: some good things for us to try out this year.

851
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: And like you said, you have to get out of

852
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: the run. You don't want to get stuck doing the

853
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: same things year after year. So that's our challenge to

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Speaker 1: you guys, that's our challenge to ourselves, and I think

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Speaker 1: we all if we do these things, if we try

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Speaker 1: new things and learn from them, we might just have

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Speaker 1: the best season of our lives. So that is going

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Speaker 1: to be it for us today. And again, Starry, this

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Speaker 1: is a short episode, um, but I'm packing to head

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Speaker 1: So keeping it short and sweet. But before we let

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Speaker 1: you go, as always, we do want to thank our

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Speaker 1: you too, Sick of Gear, Trophy, Ridge, Bear Archery, Red

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Speaker 1: Nick Blinds, Hunt, Terror Maps, Osonics, Carbon Express, Lacrosse Boots,

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Speaker 1: and the White Tailed Institute of North America. And thank

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Speaker 1: you all for joining us today. We appreciate your time

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Speaker 1: and you know we're all excited. Me and Dan are

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Speaker 1: definitely excited to hear back from you about the challenges,

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Speaker 1: what you think about them, and how you're going to participate.

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Speaker 1: So thanks for that, have an awesome week and stay

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