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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show. The number is twenty one,

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Speaker 1: as in twenty one unrestricted free agents. It's a large number,

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Speaker 1: and only half of those free agents to be are

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Speaker 1: on offense. We'll give our list of must resigns, but first,

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Speaker 1: how should we all feel about an all NFC West

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode five thirty

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Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with

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Speaker 1: Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented

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Speaker 1: by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by

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Speaker 1: Going for Hopkins one hand to catch in a touchdown?

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki. Okay, is

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Speaker 1: it something to be proud of or our worst fears realized?

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about next week's NFC Championship game, forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers at Rams and all NFC West matchup to decide

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Speaker 1: who advances to the Super Bowl. Gotta be honest, MG,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how to react to that. Well, to me,

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Speaker 1: it's what if the old what if, because honestly, I

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Speaker 1: would have thought the Buccaneers with Tom Brady or Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers would be one of the two teams. But you

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Speaker 1: got to give both the forty nine ers and Rams

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Speaker 1: a lot of credit. We know the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: would have been a tough out. The Rams got hot

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Speaker 1: at the right time. All the moves they made in

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Speaker 1: the offseason are looking like, you know, the roll and

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Speaker 1: you know the rolling Dyson, it's coming up the right way.

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Speaker 1: So it's just the what if. But we knew this

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Speaker 1: division it was going to be difficult, and the fact

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Speaker 1: normally it's been the Seahawks and it's kind of rotation.

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Speaker 1: Last year Seattle was previous season was twelve and four,

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Speaker 1: and they took a step back. But it's just the

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Yeah, you win the division, you host

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Speaker 1: at home. I just it's just the what if. And

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Speaker 1: clearly and you go back and you know, reflect on

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Speaker 1: that Monday night game, it was just I mean, I

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Speaker 1: have lost thirty one twenty seven, I think would be

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Speaker 1: more acceptive. But the whole offseason for me now is

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Speaker 1: what if? Because those are the two teams and they

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Speaker 1: against the forty nine Ers and Rams combined. That's that's

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Speaker 1: the frustrating part, because the last two teams left standing

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Speaker 1: in the conference are the two teams. Yes, it's great,

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Speaker 1: you're in the best division in all the football, the

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Speaker 1: only division to send three teams into the postseason, and

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals had the best record of any NFC West

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Speaker 1: team inside the Division four and two. Yet we're all

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Speaker 1: watching the forty nine Ers and Rams next Sunday. I

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Speaker 1: tweeted this out, but this should be a learned learning

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Speaker 1: curve for the Cardinals, just how the Niners went about

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Speaker 1: their season. You know, it was Jimmy Garoppolo and then

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Speaker 1: they they commit to running the football, and you know

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Is it's not what you do in September

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Speaker 1: Much more on the divisional round of the playoffs a

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Speaker 1: There are ten unrestricted free agents. There are a couple

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Speaker 1: ten names here on this free agent list. Give me

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Speaker 1: Here are my top four. James Connor, zach Ertz, Max Williams,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Warren Eno Benjamin Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday

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Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. All Right, priority free

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Speaker 1: agent number two. I think we're both in agreement that

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Speaker 1: zach Ertz, even though he'll be thirty two in November,

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Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, you're getting to that

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Speaker 1: age level that you get a little Larry as far

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Speaker 1: as how many years you want to invest in a

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Speaker 1: veteran tied end, although I'll say that I haven't looked back,

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Speaker 1: but I would love to know how many times Ertz

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Speaker 1: in his eleven games with the Cardinals actually had his

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Speaker 1: hand on the ground versus split either wide or in

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Speaker 1: the slot, because he just seems to me more of

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Speaker 1: a tied end because of his physical stature, height and

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Speaker 1: weight and built, but doesn't seem to be that guy

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Speaker 1: that on rundowns he's going to block a lot. Now

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Speaker 1: he's capable of doing it. He's had success, but in

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Speaker 1: the mold of a Max Williams. No, But I do

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Speaker 1: think Zach Ertz showed the Arizona Cardinal something. It was

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable and been season pickup needed when Max Williams

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Speaker 1: went down fifty six catches for five hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: four yards three touchdowns MJ in just eleven games. He

447
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Speaker 1: was targeted eighty one times, third most behind Christian Kirk

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Speaker 1: and AJ Green, and doing so in five and six

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Speaker 1: fewer games than Kirk and Green. Yeah, ever since Hop

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Speaker 1: was out, he was getting ten and a half targets

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Speaker 1: game and he was open. And if I go back

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Speaker 1: to that Monday Night game, I know they you know,

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Speaker 1: four consecutive three and ounce, but I thought I would

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Speaker 1: have targeted him twelve to fifteen times just based on

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Speaker 1: their safeties. Obviously Kyler was an accurate at that game

456
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Speaker 1: and didn't have a lot of time to throw or

457
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Speaker 1: was holding onto the ball too long. Now, to me,

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Speaker 1: he's perfect for Kingsbury's offense. That's why it's important to

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Speaker 1: bring Max Williams back. The meeting potatoes where to me

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Speaker 1: a loving personnel with Max Williams. But you know, Zach Ertz,

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Speaker 1: he's a high effort guy, but he's not really a

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Speaker 1: great blocker. I mean he's it's just not his forte

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Speaker 1: And that's okay. I mean, yes, George Kittle and Travis

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Speaker 1: Kelcey and Gronkowski they're a little bigger so they can

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Speaker 1: do both. But he's really affect them on matchups. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I love what he said before the Rams

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Speaker 1: Monday Night game was, you know, there's routes that I

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Speaker 1: run in the fourth first quarter and then they're different

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, And that to me is smart

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Speaker 1: because you're setting up yourself for later in the game,

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Speaker 1: and Kyler trusts him, so he's a priority to me.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like he wants to be here. And we all

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Speaker 1: know at the end of the day it takes two

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Speaker 1: to tangle, or you know, somebody else can money with him.

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Speaker 1: But I'm glad you brought up you. Maybe give him

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Speaker 1: a three year deal, but maybe that three year is

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Speaker 1: kind of a dumby year, or it's based off of

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Speaker 1: incentives too. Maybe you two years, but you can earn

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Speaker 1: x amount of dollars if you're active on Sundays, or

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Speaker 1: you hit you know, five hundred receiving yards, fifty plus catches,

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Speaker 1: something like that. Get creative if you need to as

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Speaker 1: far as dollars and cents are concerned. Yeah, And the

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Speaker 1: thing is his targets will go down with hop and

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Speaker 1: then you hope they can get more out of Rondel Moore.

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Speaker 1: But clearly he'll be your go to guy when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the past catching tight end. So the numbers

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Speaker 1: will go down, but it's more about efficiency red zone,

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Speaker 1: third down, And we go back to their first Rams

489
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Speaker 1: game or second one on Monday night where Kyler had him.

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Speaker 1: He obviously locked on him and that ball got picked

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Speaker 1: off so's he won't maybe have the volume of the targets,

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Speaker 1: but it's when he catches these passes on third down,

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Speaker 1: red zone possibly touchdowns. And you said it, he wants

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Speaker 1: to be here. There is a lot of interest in

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Speaker 1: him staying put. I think in just three months time

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Speaker 1: he's learned to love it. He's got great friends on

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Speaker 1: this roster. And then the chemistry on the field off

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Speaker 1: the field with Kyler Murray. It was Ertz who said

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Speaker 1: after the Monday night game on Tuesday, when he met

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Speaker 1: the media that he thought he and Kyler were only

501
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Speaker 1: scratching the surface as far as that quarterback tight end relationship.

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Speaker 1: So you take that next step and that might be

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Speaker 1: I don't think that would be an answer for me

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Speaker 1: as far as a number two wide receiver, even though

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Speaker 1: Ertz does play a lot of quote unquote wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: But if you have d Hop on one side, someone

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Speaker 1: else on the right side, whether that's a free agent

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Speaker 1: edition or someone in the draft that is capable week

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Speaker 1: one of being in this offense, and then Zach Ertz,

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Speaker 1: what do you do. You're moving him around, you're motioning him,

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Speaker 1: and you're lining up up in the slot, maybe initially

512
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Speaker 1: handing the dirt and then all of a sudden he

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Speaker 1: splits wide and then you figure out Rondel Moore and

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Speaker 1: whomever else you might have. But I do like the

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Speaker 1: fact that ERT's and then you bring up Max Williams

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Speaker 1: because I think I don't know if they're tied at

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Speaker 1: the hit, but if you can find Max Williams and

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Speaker 1: zach Ertz, I don't know if there's another combination out

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Speaker 1: there like that where you have the pass catching tight

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Speaker 1: end with the blocking tight end. But Max Williams, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was having the best season of his career before

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Speaker 1: getting hurt in week five. You don't go and get

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Speaker 1: zach Ertz. If Max Williams is healthy, But can you

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Speaker 1: have them both on the roster? Is away for those

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Speaker 1: two to coexist within this Kingsbury system. Yeah, and don't

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Speaker 1: forget when it comes to arts. Also, obviously his wife

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Speaker 1: has ties to the former Cardinal's cheerleader. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I made this point a few times and a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys like Jane J. Watt kind of hitting that

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Speaker 1: reset button on his career. I do think you know,

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Speaker 1: when you wake up up in the sunny and you

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00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: practice on grass, I think those are important for guys

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Speaker 1: that obviously who played in Philadelphia U S. Ray J. Green.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was sitting the reset button. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was able to you know, flourish

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Speaker 1: whether it was miscommunication for all the entire season. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I and you know, when guys say they want to

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Speaker 1: be here, I mean they're not. I mean, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, his agent is going to make Yeah,

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Speaker 1: obviously you have to negotiate the contract. But if you're

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Speaker 1: sitting across the table and say you get it done,

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Speaker 1: I want to be in Arizona, it changes. Whereas agents

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00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: trying to listen, this guy's made good money in his career.

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Speaker 1: At this point. It's about trust and he likes the

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Speaker 1: quarterback and you know the fact that you know he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to move around again. You know, and when

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Speaker 1: you get older and kind of get not complacent. But

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Speaker 1: I think that the fact that he likes Arizona, he

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Speaker 1: likes the team that goes a long way when a

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Speaker 1: guy's committed to playing football. Fifty six catches tied the

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Speaker 1: franchise record for receptions by tight end, and Arts did

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Speaker 1: that in eleven games. He can I can't remember the

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Speaker 1: last great tight end they had or a good tight end.

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Speaker 1: Well Ertz became the first Cardinals tight end since Freddie

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Speaker 1: Jones in two thousand and three to have five hundred

556
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Speaker 1: or more receiving yards. So it's not a position that

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Speaker 1: this franchise uses a lot, yes, but when you have

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Speaker 1: a weapon like that and listen, it can work with

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Speaker 1: him in Max Williams. That's the plan. They want to

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Speaker 1: bring Max back. You know, the rehabs going fine. Look

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Speaker 1: at him. He loves being here. So and I don't

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Speaker 1: know what kind of markets out there from Max Williams

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Speaker 1: coming off an injury. They know they have intel. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's working out where they obviously can keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on him, even though he's going to be a

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Speaker 1: free agent. But I was told that that's what they

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Speaker 1: wanted to do. And then look at the draft. It's deep.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen to twenty tight ends going to be the first

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Speaker 1: or second round. When you're picking twenty third, you've probably

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Speaker 1: got to go for a corner or maybe the wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting ahead of myself, but they feel like two

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Speaker 1: veterans and then develop a young guy in the thing

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Speaker 1: is that you knows all about matchups, and that's where

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Speaker 1: ERTs can get a safety or a lineback around him,

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Speaker 1: and Max Williams a guy that Kyler trust's thrown down

576
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: the scene. So that's the plan. Now we'll see it

577
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Speaker 1: with transpires. Would love to see Zach Ertz and Max

578
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Speaker 1: Williams back on this roster. And you know, got a

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Speaker 1: soft spot in my heart from Max Williams because he

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Speaker 1: does all the dirty work, wants no credit, wontsoever, will

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Speaker 1: not speak about his play at all. He always diverts

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Speaker 1: attention to the entire tight end room. And I do

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Speaker 1: think having him back to kind of be that bulldozer,

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Speaker 1: if you will, because when you have that sixth offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman slash tight end, someone that is going to block

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Speaker 1: for you, then all of a sudden, this is when

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Speaker 1: that team was rolling those first five games and even

588
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Speaker 1: a little bit after that, being able to run the

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Speaker 1: ball effectively out of eleven personnel twelve personnel perhaps, and

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Speaker 1: maybe we see that more next season, especially if both

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Speaker 1: Arts and Williams are on this team. Yeah, because that

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Speaker 1: means you you're bringing some more athleticism and then bringing

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Speaker 1: an extra linement. I mean they've run twelve personnel. Sometimes

594
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Speaker 1: it's more for protecting the edges maybe obviously short yardist situation,

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00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'd be intrigued with that. Um yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's a scenario where Ertz is going

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Speaker 1: to be your your more past catching tight end, and

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Speaker 1: then Max can do both and then hopefully they can

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Speaker 1: develop a young tight end for the future. Because if

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Speaker 1: you watch the games over the weekend, tight ends are

601
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Speaker 1: truly involved in a lot of I mean, this Knox

602
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: guy had four touchdowns for the for the Bills. I mean,

603
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: it's it's he's he's not a household name, but the

604
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: fact is that I think it's all about matchups running

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Speaker 1: backs and tight ends on linebackers and safeties. All right,

606
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Speaker 1: before we discussed Colt McCoy because he's both in our

607
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Speaker 1: top four. The one name that you had that I

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Speaker 1: didn't now I would like him to return, I just

609
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Speaker 1: don't know costs and would be Christen Kirk. Make the

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Speaker 1: case for Christen Kirk to be among the priority free

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Speaker 1: agents on offense, Well, is he a number two receiver?

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Speaker 1: Is the number three receiver? He's finally stayed healthy. He

613
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Speaker 1: was playing his natural position. Obviously when Hopp was out there,

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Speaker 1: he was getting separation. Another guy that wants to be here,

615
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Speaker 1: but you know, it's the first time he's been a

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Speaker 1: free agent, and you know, I just want no wonder

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Speaker 1: what other teams now is is he looking at I

618
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: was here in like ten to twelve million. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Cardinals can do that. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying they can't. I don't know, because all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, Isabelle has been here long enough,

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Speaker 1: he really hasn't done anything. I don't I wouldn't bring

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Speaker 1: back a J Green. That's just me. I could be

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Speaker 1: wrong all of a sudden. Who's your receivers? I mean,

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Speaker 1: and this offense is predicated on, you know, guys that

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Speaker 1: have experienced in this offense, So I mean there's always

627
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Speaker 1: a price tag. And but I think he's earned the

628
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Speaker 1: right to go out and find what he's worth. And

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Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier. Guess the Cardinals could sign some of

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Speaker 1: these guys. But at this point, if you're Christian Kirk,

631
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Speaker 1: James Connor, Chase Edmonds, they're going to test the water.

632
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: Colte McCoy is a guy that is not looking to leave.

633
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Speaker 1: He wants to be he wants to be compensated, but

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Speaker 1: he's I don't think he's all of a sudden going

635
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Speaker 1: to pack up and move. So those other guys they burned.

636
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Speaker 1: Connor's been a free agent before, but when it comes

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Speaker 1: to Kirk and Edmonds, you got to find out what

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Speaker 1: you're worth. And that's what they did with Patrick Peterson

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Speaker 1: last year. And you know, we'll get into this Wednesday

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Speaker 1: about Chandler Jones. But yeah, I just yes, I think

641
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Speaker 1: if they went to Colte McCoy, it's not a priority.

642
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: It's make sure he's under contract when offseason starts, he's not.

643
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Speaker 1: If he wants to be here, then you don't have

644
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Speaker 1: to really worry about it. You just give him a

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Speaker 1: number and say we'll sign it. I mean, that's why

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Speaker 1: I feel about it, the Christian Kirk topic, as far

647
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: as see what you're worth versus okay, I really want

648
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Speaker 1: to be here. I remember DJ Humphreys and he's entering,

649
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: getting closer and closer to free agency, and all of

650
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: a sudden the news breaks, Hey, we've resigned DJ Humphries.

651
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Speaker 1: I believe it was in the month of February, and

652
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: it's like, well, free agencies just literally right around the corner.

653
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Speaker 1: You're a month away. But hump wanted to be here.

654
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Speaker 1: But that was his second contract. True, he had made

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Speaker 1: his money, he had established roots and Christian Kirk first

656
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Speaker 1: time hitting the market, And okay, I know what I'm

657
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Speaker 1: worth here in Arizona to what other teams believe that

658
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Speaker 1: they can get out of me and what I might

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Speaker 1: be able to make. No, the interesting point you bring

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Speaker 1: up wide receivers, DeAndre Hopkins is back. You're looking for

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Speaker 1: a number two, an outside wide receiver. Christian Kirk this

662
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: year almost a thousand receiving yards in the slot. That's

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Speaker 1: where he's most productive. Can he play outside? He can?

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Speaker 1: We've seen it here. I don't know if that's the

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Speaker 1: answer de hop Kirk, Rondel Moore and the slot next

666
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Speaker 1: season with Zach Ertz and Maxiwillians. I mean it's possible,

667
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Speaker 1: but we know Christian Kirk has been better, at least

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Speaker 1: he was this season as an inside receiver. But even

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Speaker 1: when we go back to when Josh Rosen was here,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kirk, can he can spread the field that

671
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Speaker 1: a couple of games ago that catch it he kylips

672
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Speaker 1: through that type and triple coverage. Yeah, I think because

673
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Speaker 1: of Adre Green moved him inside, but that was his

674
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Speaker 1: natural position, So I think he can play. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of like a Tyler Lockett Robert Woods where

676
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Speaker 1: you just move him around. I think because of Green

677
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Speaker 1: strictly plays on the right side, he was had to

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Speaker 1: play in the inside. But yeah, I got no problem

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Speaker 1: with slide him outside. I mean, he can catch the

680
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Speaker 1: deep ball. I don't know if he's if he's so

681
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Speaker 1: effective to work coming back for the ball because he

682
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: runs good routes. It's just you know, but I do

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Speaker 1: think he can play inside and outside. There's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Now again, close to a thousand yards should have had

685
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Speaker 1: a thousand if he didn't have a few drops. But

686
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Speaker 1: that's his natural position, so that Kingsbury and the coaches

687
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't know a lot more about that. But if you're

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Speaker 1: asking me, could he play an the outside? Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: if you're going to pay him for a number two

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Speaker 1: receiver or two and a half, yes, you put him

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Speaker 1: money outside. And even if you are playing inside, that

692
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't go deep. You keep even though

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Speaker 1: you're lining up inside. We've seen it several times. All

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Speaker 1: it takes is a quick move inside and you break

695
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Speaker 1: right and all of a sudden you take it down

696
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Speaker 1: the sidelines and you're ready for a deep shot. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess the question becomes in antoine. Wesley really, to me,

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Speaker 1: is going to be a replacement for a J. Green.

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Speaker 1: So maybe because he's a big, tall receiver, he's got

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Speaker 1: to get stronger. He told he's going to work on

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00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: his route running. Their trust is there between the head

702
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Speaker 1: coach and the quarterback. He's not making a lot. You

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Speaker 1: own his rights for the next three or four years.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he could be number three or four.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to go four wide or three wide,

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Speaker 1: you have two big outside receivers and then you keep

707
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Speaker 1: Christian kirkinside with rondel Moore. If he chooses to sign here.

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Speaker 1: It could be a lot of moving parts. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, d hops on the left side or maybe

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Speaker 1: they move around. But as far as that number two guy,

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Speaker 1: who is it? Is? It no one specific and just

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Speaker 1: like a rotation of Kirk Wesley Ertz. I mean I

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Speaker 1: have no idea. I mean, okay, that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I would say Hopkins ERTs pass catcher, but I'm cheating here.

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Speaker 1: What I would think Christian Kirk would be number two

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Speaker 1: and a half with rondel Moore, and then Wesley would

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Speaker 1: be four or five Wesley, I don't know if you'd

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Speaker 1: play sixty five snaps a game, but again, that size

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Speaker 1: really opens things up. And when you have hop on

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Speaker 1: the other side, that's when you can get Rondel Moore

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Speaker 1: to where they want to use him. Kind only dabbles

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Speaker 1: animal or even a you know, a Tyreek hill that

723
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Speaker 1: was a whole idea. I want to see him get

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Speaker 1: more down the field throws, but we know when he

725
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: puts his when he catches that screen pass and he

726
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: puts that foot in the ground, it's hard to cover him.

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Speaker 1: So I like it. They have a luxury. I know

728
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Speaker 1: that they've been loaded with slot receivers, but Andy Isabella

729
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: to me, he should be on the outside. Just run

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Speaker 1: as fast as you can. Cardinals Covered two presented by

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Speaker 1: Hunday proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, Culte McCoy. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's a and I say priority because he

733
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Speaker 1: needs to be on this team. Now. When does that happen?

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Speaker 1: Is it tomorrow, next week, next month, April? But Colt

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Speaker 1: McCoy two and one as a starter, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you're looking for in a backup, someone in a pinch,

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Speaker 1: whether it's mid game or for a couple of games,

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Speaker 1: can come in and keep this team afloat. And that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what he did mid season, starting those three games,

740
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Speaker 1: completed better than seventy five percent of his passes six

741
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Speaker 1: eighty four yards, three touchdowns, one interception. In those three starts,

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Speaker 1: he won two games without DeAndre Hopkins. Kyler Murray won

743
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Speaker 1: one game without DeAndre Hopkins and both throws were road games,

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Speaker 1: division games. Um, you know, Coote McCoy has been around

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00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: this long enough. Yeah, he's got good tape out there,

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Speaker 1: But I don't think he's searching to be a starting

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00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: quarterback again. It's no, I don't. It's listen. He accepted

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Speaker 1: his role. He's been perfect for Kyler. You know, it

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00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: sounds like they're watching film. But I think Kyle's got

750
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Speaker 1: to grow up here. M he's got to eat what happened.

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00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: He's got to That should be motivation, you know, moving in.

752
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: But Colte McCoy is a great sounding board and he's

753
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: really helped him in the film room and just recognize

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00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: the stuff he still needs to learn. How to read

755
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: defense is that's that's something in his fourth here that's

756
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: going to be you know, I wouldn't say right or die,

757
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: but he's gonna have to show improvement there. But I

758
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: think Colte McCoy not looking over his shoulder, just a

759
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: great sponge. And you know when he comes to the sidelines,

760
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Speaker 1: you know, one of the first guys he starts talking

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Speaker 1: to his Colte McCoy, even though he does have a

762
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: relationship with Cam Turner, a veteran in that quarterback room.

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Speaker 1: Someone and this is big Kyle the Murray respects and

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00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: that means a whole heck of a lot because I

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Speaker 1: don't know how many voices Kyle the Murray and all

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00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: honesty listens to. I mean, there's the head coach, there's

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Speaker 1: Cam Turner, there's Colt McCoy, And as far as being

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Speaker 1: willing to accept constructive criticism and what needs to be done,

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Speaker 1: better work on this, this didn't quite work. What do

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Speaker 1: you like? And then you formulate a game plan. So

771
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: I hope Colt McCoy is on this roster next season

772
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: and if you need him, as he joked about when

773
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Speaker 1: he had to play, he can still play now, not

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Speaker 1: a long period of time, two or three games at most,

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Speaker 1: and to your point, winning on the road at San

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Speaker 1: Francisco at Seattle. Those are two huge wins middle of

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Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, I only you started talking about you know,

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Speaker 1: they finished four and two in the division. I mean

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Speaker 1: he had a pile, He's hand in a pile on

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Speaker 1: both of those into a road games and look what

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Speaker 1: San Francisco is now that's true. Yes, division game are

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Speaker 1: huge in the NFC West in particular. Now, the other

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Speaker 1: free agents on offense, We've kind of touched on AJ

784
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Speaker 1: Green a little bit. I think for what they paid

785
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: him and his production, he was everything he asked for.

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Speaker 1: But there needed to be a next step, especially when

787
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Speaker 1: d Hop was no longer there. You got two more

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Speaker 1: tight ends, Darrell Daniels and Dmitri's Harris who are unrestricted

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Speaker 1: free agents, and in Max Garcia on the offensive line.

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00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: Maybe you bring Daniels, Harris Garcia back as backups. But

791
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: to me, none of those and I'm counting AJ Green

792
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: are guys that priority need to have on this roster

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00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: to contributes roles backups in a pinch different story, but

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00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: I think with Connor ERTs, Max Williams, Quote McCoy, and

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Speaker 1: I'll throw in Christian Kirk, those are the names that

796
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: this team needs to focus focus on offense. Yeah, Daniels

797
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: blocking tight end. If you bring Max Williams back, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously you know they'll go to camp with six. Max

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Speaker 1: Garcia to me as a backup. Um, I can appreciate

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Speaker 1: him being thrown the fire when Rodney Hudson went down

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Speaker 1: and Sean Harlow. You know, it's never good when you're

802
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: going to your second and third. But I'll give him

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Speaker 1: credit because he's that's not his natural position. I think

804
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: he bailed his team out a few times, but I

805
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: just didn't like the way not only him, but that

806
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: the offensive line performed in the last month of the season.

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00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: The offensive line took a step back and it was

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00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: the majority of the games. Now, we'll give him credit

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00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: for the Dallas game. We thought that would be, you know,

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Speaker 1: a jumping board to the Seahawks game. But Garcia. Garcia

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Speaker 1: is a good backup, but I don't think he's a starter.

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Speaker 1: And he got pushed around a lot, and and you

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00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: know they got to develop Justin Murray and Josh Jones

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Speaker 1: and possibly Harlow. They could draft a guy. I think

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Speaker 1: Max was good in a pinch, but like Colpe McCoy,

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Speaker 1: you just don't want him starting in like ten games.

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Speaker 1: For you, and in fairness to him, he you know,

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Speaker 1: he earned there in the right in training camp. It

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Speaker 1: would have been interesting if they would have been able

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Speaker 1: to convince Brian Winters to stay here, because I think

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Speaker 1: we would have sell Brian Winters, who had a lot

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Speaker 1: of experience. He started in the league and he actually

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00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: played with Kelvin Beacham. Unfortunately he decided to leave the team.

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Speaker 1: Max Garcia a fifteen games, eleven starts. Remember he was

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Speaker 1: the backup center. He was getting reps at the center

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Speaker 1: position and only pressed into guard duty because of injuries

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Speaker 1: and circumstances like Brian Winters. So you need guys like that,

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Speaker 1: and if he does come back, that's fine, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's going to cost you a lot. It's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be a lot of years, might even be

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Speaker 1: one year. But this offensive line, in which we can

832
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: discuss a lot this offseason, needs to improve, especially inside

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Speaker 1: on either side of Rodney Hudson, as far as finding

834
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Speaker 1: that road grader if you will, at left or right guard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with Justin Pugh. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know it. I think when he's healthy he's been good.

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Speaker 1: But you know you again, He's another guy that you know,

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Speaker 1: he took a pay cut to stay here. So I

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Speaker 1: mean they have great chemistry. They all love Coogler, but

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's it's more about

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Speaker 1: production and getting the best guys there, and I think

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Speaker 1: they got to get better than the trenches on both

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Speaker 1: sides of the ball. Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Let's close up this

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two talking about what we kind

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Speaker 1: of opened with, and that is the Divisional Round of

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Speaker 1: the postseason, perhaps the greatest weekend of football in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Within the Divisional Round, three walkoffs by

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Speaker 1: field goals, all by the road team, all four games

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Speaker 1: decided on the final play, and for the first time

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Speaker 1: since twenty ten, both number one seeds lost. Although what

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Speaker 1: is sticking in everyone's minds is the most recent game,

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Speaker 1: and that would be your Buffalo Bills los into the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and overtime forty two to thirty six

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Speaker 1: MJ twenty five points three lead chain just over the

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Speaker 1: final two minutes of regulation. It was great action, great theater,

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Speaker 1: and it's a shame that someone had to lose that

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Speaker 1: contest and the Chiefs now have gone with four straight

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Speaker 1: and AFC championship games. I gotta think, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the future. I know Joe Burrows obviously got a lot

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Speaker 1: of upside to have a more talented team, But to me,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be like Brady and Manning when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. I've heard that,

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Speaker 1: and then Justin Hubert's gonna be in the background saying, Hey,

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Speaker 1: don't forget about me either. But I like that comparison. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the fact that these guys have gone toe

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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't I didn't want the game to end,

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Speaker 1: and it's just so many things that happened, you know,

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Speaker 1: thirteen seconds. It's like, how do what kind of defense?

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Speaker 1: What are you guys doing? Like just and give my

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Speaker 1: homes man, I mean just watching him play, and watching

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen playing, and even Matthew Stafford and Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow, it's just, yeah, I just love the

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Speaker 1: way they can command the game and whether they're running

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Speaker 1: or you know, throwing off their back foot, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's fascinating and Josh Allen, man, how far he's coming.

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Speaker 1: I think he was completing like fifty two point eight

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Speaker 1: percent of his passes his first year and now he's

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Speaker 1: like and he's perfect for Buffalo. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: going to Wyoming and you know he loves the weather.

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Speaker 1: He's they love, you know, the blue collar town. And

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Speaker 1: I like the fact that he's there and he's saying

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Speaker 1: a long term deal because they have they have their

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. I don't think anybody's just speaking that Mahomes

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Speaker 1: three touchdown passes, Alan four touchdown passes, all the Gabriel

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Speaker 1: Davis who twice caught go ahead scores in the final

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Speaker 1: two minutes, including one on fourth and thirteen, but not enough,

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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs now will host the Cincinnati Bengals, who

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Speaker 1: upset the Titans nineteen to sixteen. How do you sack

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Speaker 1: eight quarterback nine time and still lose the ball game?

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow sacked nine at times, yet it was a

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Speaker 1: Evan mcpherrison rookie Evan McPherson kicking a fifty two yard

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Speaker 1: field goal as time expired, and the road team, the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: upset the Titans well that's because Ryan Tannehill threw the

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Speaker 1: ball three three times for interceptions. And he started the

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Speaker 1: game with an interception and then he had two more

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Speaker 1: and second half and you know, obviously bringing Derrick Henry back,

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Speaker 1: and you know Julio was on the field. Agum Brown, Um,

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Speaker 1: but the turnover they get magnified. And you know, um,

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Speaker 1: give Burrow credit because I thought, you know what, they

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Speaker 1: had a home game. They took care of business against

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. Um, give the Raiders credit for getting in.

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Speaker 1: But I thought this would be a matchup. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Mike Brabel said after the game, as long as I'm

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Speaker 1: the head coach here, I'm not blaming one player. I

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Speaker 1: think we all know that. And Tannehill has been greater

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Speaker 1: for them. Yes, it's just people when you hear the

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Speaker 1: game we're manager, they think, oh, he can't win the game. No,

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Speaker 1: just don't lose the game for me. And unfortunately he

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Speaker 1: turned the ball over three times. So Chiefs and Bengals

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Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game. In the NFC Championship Game,

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Speaker 1: Rams and forty nine Ers. Rams upset the Buccaneers thirty

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Speaker 1: to twenty seven. Forty nine Ers elimited to the Packers

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Speaker 1: thirteen to ten for the forty nine ers thirteen points,

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Speaker 1: all thanks to special teams, two field goals, a block

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Speaker 1: punt return for a touchdown also blocked a field goal attempts.

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Speaker 1: Special teams for the San Francisco forty nine Ers won

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Speaker 1: that game on the road amidst little snow flurries for

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Speaker 1: Robbie Gould, who is now twenty of twenty in the postseason. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know last year Rick Gosselin, he's a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame writer. He used to work for the Dallas Morning News.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the one of the mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got him and Bill Belichick. They have

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Speaker 1: a lot of conversations in the offseason. Every year he

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Speaker 1: does his year the rankings, and last year the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: were tenth. This year they kind of went down twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty third, but he had the Packers as a ranked

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Speaker 1: thirty second worst special teams and the fact that one

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Speaker 1: of the field goals only had ten guys on the

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Speaker 1: game when field screen shot on social media that was

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Speaker 1: passing around ten Packer players on the field. I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe it gets overlooked when you got Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 1: you're scoring all these points. But we talk about it

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Speaker 1: all the time. First of all, it's there's three facets

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Speaker 1: in any team, offense, defense, and special teams. You don't

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Speaker 1: talk about special teams. Something happened, and I've maintained since

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Speaker 1: I've been watching the playoffs, if you get a special

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Speaker 1: team's touchdown, it just magnifies it. You get a pick six,

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Speaker 1: it magnifies it because normally you're gonna get your ten

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Speaker 1: or eleven possessions. But if you can tilt field position

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Speaker 1: and just give the Niners they actually did enough to

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Speaker 1: you know, they ran the ball twenty nine times for

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Speaker 1: one hundred and six yards. The Packers twenty carries for

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Speaker 1: sixty four yards really a j um Aaron Jones and

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Speaker 1: Dylan really didn't get off and so and Rodgers throwing

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Speaker 1: into double coverage. It's just it was a bad look

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Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers walking off that field. Oh and four

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, Aaron Rodgers is against the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Now the question is what happens with Aaron Rodgers in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. Questions about Tom Brady, does he finish out

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Speaker 1: his contracts with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or does he

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Speaker 1: call it a career? Yeah, I guess Arion's is going

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Speaker 1: to give him as much time as he needs. There

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Speaker 1: was some speculation over the weekend that he was uncommitted. Um.

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Speaker 1: Even Tom Brady looked rattled a little bit yesterday. Now

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Speaker 1: give him credit for that comeback in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: but he nobody likes to get hit. Um, but he

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Speaker 1: was rattled a little bit. And we talk about Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray and I'm not comparing, but it's just it happens

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Speaker 1: to the best of the best. Like they I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's so when he when he's rolling, he's under he's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's his body language is good. But when

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Speaker 1: things aren't going well man, and he he was I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this guy's really getting rattled. And you know him, you

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Speaker 1: don't see that. I know there's times when he gets upset,

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Speaker 1: but when he when he was in that first half,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, he doesn't look comfortable right here. But again,

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Speaker 1: leave it to Brady. They didn't come back and win,

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Speaker 1: but that was a nice comeback. Close down twenty seven

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Speaker 1: to three in the second half, nearly rallied that team,

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Speaker 1: well did, tied it up and then Matthew Stafford got

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Speaker 1: the Rams in field goal range and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the Rams are moving on and the value of a

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Speaker 1: pass rush. I think we all learned that this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and that's a good tease moving forward as we discuss

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Speaker 1: some of the key free agents for the Cardinals on

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Speaker 1: defense when we continue here later this week, and on

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Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday, proud partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive

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Speaker 1: producer Jim Momandro for Mike Drecky, I'm preg Rael Loup.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time ire on Cardinals Cover

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