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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Welcome to the offseason,

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Speaker 1: officially day one for all thirty two teams. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we know the Cardinals have been busy preparing for the

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Speaker 1: draft and free agency since January, and maybe even before then.

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Speaker 1: We'll discuss the team's thirty two free agents, who's likely

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Speaker 1: to come back, who isn't. But first Super Bowl fifty

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Speaker 1: five and the night before the season's final game, NFL Honors,

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Speaker 1: the league's annual awards show did include some Cardinals mentions.

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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three ninety two, and it

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Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu

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Speaker 1: and Mike jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday,

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Speaker 1: Visit acy Cardinals dot com Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to

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Speaker 1: the right, throws near sight of Fritz Bot. He's into

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Speaker 1: the ends after the touchdown. Here's Craig Grielou and Mike Jareckie.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think, MJ? Super Bowl fifty five.

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Speaker 1: But before we get your thoughts, I do want to

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Speaker 1: mention this game number two, sixteen nine and at tip

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Speaker 1: all the officials. And we talked about this at the

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Speaker 1: end of the Cardinals season on what the Cardinals were

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Speaker 1: able to go through thanks to head athletic trainer Tom Reid.

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Speaker 1: But I think the entire National Football League deserves a

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Speaker 1: round of applause, it tip the cap whatever to get

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Speaker 1: through this twenty twenty season regular season, postseason in the

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Speaker 1: midst of a pandemic. Yeah, there was some speed bumps,

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Speaker 1: if you will. There was a game every single day

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Speaker 1: and the twenty twenty season will certainly be something that

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Speaker 1: none of us will ever forget. Well said, and starts

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Speaker 1: with the top and Roger Goodell, and I know he

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Speaker 1: We told you there was a twelve game schedule, a

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Speaker 1: open possibly an eighteenth week in the season that could

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Speaker 1: have played makeup games and give the organizations including Tom

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Speaker 1: is they played every single day of the week, including Christmas.

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Speaker 1: That was a Christmas game that was scheduled. They happened

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Speaker 1: to be on a Friday. They played on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: you're not affecting the bowl game. So they had their

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Speaker 1: press conference and they learned a lot, and they're going

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Speaker 1: And we know that State Farm Stadium is one of

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Speaker 1: so for thirty franchises in the NFL. They've learned a

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Speaker 1: But they feel like they've made a lot of progress

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Speaker 1: more for his Steelers play than that one season in

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Speaker 1: twenty ten. Yeah, he's he's one of those throwback players.

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Speaker 1: He played hurt, a tough guy, played the equal of

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Speaker 1: the whistle, never backed down against any opponent. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what a career, and it was just a matter of time.

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Speaker 1: I think it's hard for us to judge when it

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Speaker 1: comes to linemen. You know, there's stats or how many

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Speaker 1: sacks he gave up, how many pancakes and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But you know, obviously at Bouchette, who's covered the Steelers

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Speaker 1: for over for forty years, he got a chance to

439
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: watch him how close and personal. Also with the Jets.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he I don't know if he

441
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: started doing like triathlons or you know, like but he

442
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: is like half of himself, half the size, half the size,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he's got a big home. So when

444
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: they show him in uniform, it's like you played football.

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Speaker 1: But I gotta think that Steelers and the Cowboys game possibly,

446
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll try to get the Colts

447
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Speaker 1: there for that Hall of Fame game that they happen

448
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Speaker 1: to play it. But it's it's a big deal any

449
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Speaker 1: time a Pittsburgh Steeler gets into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: And I was wrong on Calvin Johnson. You look at

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Speaker 1: his numbers, you know. I looked at Torry Holt and

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Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne and I just thought these guys have been

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Speaker 1: waiting longer. They both have Super Bowls. Calvin Johnson played

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Speaker 1: nine years. But I was wrong. I thought one of

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Speaker 1: those guys would get I thought Fanika would get in,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it was a matter of time for

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Speaker 1: John Lynch. We need more safeties to get in there

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Speaker 1: so we can start talking about Adrian Wilson. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he'll be a Hall of Fame. Everybody have

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer numbers twenty five, twenty five club And

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Speaker 1: obviously when you're John Lynch, she get into the media

462
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: and now he was a general manager, so you keep

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Speaker 1: your name in the mix. But I thought he was worthy.

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Speaker 1: Obviously that Bucks defense and him getting a chance to

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Speaker 1: play for the Broncos, and I'm a big fan of

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Speaker 1: John John Lynch as a person, so I wasn't shocked

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Speaker 1: there and it was good for Tom Flores to get in. Finally,

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Speaker 1: Bill done, who's been waiting, and you know we'll see

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Speaker 1: you know you look at next year's class. I think

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Speaker 1: An Kwon Bolton's on there. I think you'll have a

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Speaker 1: hard time getting in the first time. But I do

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Speaker 1: think some receivers because Art Munk had to wait a

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Speaker 1: long time, Chris Carter had to wait a long time.

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Speaker 1: I want to see Marvin Harris and Maya had to wait.

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Speaker 1: But when I look at Tory Holt and Reggie Wayne,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just a matter of time. One more

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame notes. Congratulations this one to longtime Cardinals

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Speaker 1: fan and former Cardinals cheerleader Christy Brown. She got that

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Speaker 1: knock on the door from David Baker, selected as one

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Speaker 1: of three winners of the Ford Hall of Fans contest.

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Speaker 1: Kylet Regard has a great story up on Easy Cardinals

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Speaker 1: dot Com right now on that. So there's certainly a

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Speaker 1: big honor for her, and I know she enjoyed the

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Speaker 1: entire weekend and Tampa Bay certainly would have loved to

485
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Speaker 1: have seen her Cardinals in that game, but still at

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay to watch. As we talked about the Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: beating the Chiefs well, and she's got a great story.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously she's a nurse, and you know she's

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Speaker 1: been able to um, you know, being a huge Cardinal fan.

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Speaker 1: But you just she's what I look at as a

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Speaker 1: Cardinal fan. She's very active, former cheerleaders I mentioned, and

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Speaker 1: then she's a nurse, and then with her son, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just the fact that she has all that time

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Speaker 1: to spend and you've got to see some of her

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Speaker 1: house where she's just a fan to them. But it's

496
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Speaker 1: a good story and it's nice to see get people

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Speaker 1: get recognized. This year they put all three in and

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Speaker 1: you know, she's very um engaging. I follow her on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: great personality and she couldn't be happier, and it was

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Speaker 1: great to see her get some attention just based on

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Speaker 1: her background in her story and her son. Again, you

502
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Speaker 1: can go to asy Cardinals dot com to read that

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Speaker 1: story from Kyle, And of course if you haven't already,

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Speaker 1: slash app four more. All right, we continue here the

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Speaker 1: day after the Super Bowl. Here this Cardinals cover two

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Speaker 1: show presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Let's touch on it free agency, because this is the

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Speaker 1: first official day, if you will, for all thirty two

513
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Speaker 1: teams to hit the offseason. Cardinals have thirty two free agents,

514
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Speaker 1: twenty eight of whom are unrestricted. Real quick, though, MJ.

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Speaker 1: The four players who are not unrestricted free agents, Dennis Gardeck,

516
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: Trent Sheerfield, a Zekiel Turner are all restricted. Kylie Fitz

517
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: is an exclusive rights free agent. Any reason we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: expect to see all four of those players back in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, No, I mean, they own their rights,

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Speaker 1: and again, you know, when it comes to that kind

521
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: of stuff, it's more accounting purposes. But I anticipate just

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Speaker 1: for depth and maybe one of these guys can turn

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Speaker 1: out and to get more playing time. I'm sure Kylie

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Speaker 1: Fitzer like that obviously, Dennis Gardeck and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: So we'll just have to wait and see. But I

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Speaker 1: anticipate all four coming back. Yeah, Dennis, Trent Ezekiel all

527
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: huge on special teams, so certainly would love to see

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Speaker 1: all four of those players back, and I think we

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Speaker 1: will as well. Now, you can't have everyone return, that's

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Speaker 1: just not the nature of the National Football League, but

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Speaker 1: twenty eight players unrestricted. Cardinals can resign. These players at

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Speaker 1: any time. Those we get this close to free agency,

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Speaker 1: just about five six weeks away, it's more likely players

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Speaker 1: will wait. Could see a handful sign Last offseason, DJ

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Speaker 1: Humphreys chose not to wait and resign, and I think

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Speaker 1: as we've touched on here during the course since the

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Speaker 1: season ended and even late in the season, for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm j the most interesting names among the twenty eight

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00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents Larry Fitzgerald, Patrick Peterson and his son Reddick.

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Speaker 1: No Marcus Golden. I think if you deal with Reddick

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Speaker 1: first and then figure out what you're gonna do, then

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Speaker 1: a course as far as a ranking order and nothing

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Speaker 1: against Marcus, but I think Reddick ahead just based off

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Speaker 1: I think you can do a little bit more than

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Speaker 1: a Marcus Golden. That's fair. I guess we'll find out. Larry.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're in February, so you know, I think

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Speaker 1: the team would like to know going into March, so

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Speaker 1: she'll have some time there. Nothing's changed. Patrick Peterson, I

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Speaker 1: don't know this where I've confirmed it, but I do

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Speaker 1: think Patrick Peterson will be a guy that will test

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Speaker 1: free agency, and we'll see if he if the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: decide to match or have conversations on paper. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he'll get thirteen million a year from the Cardinals

554
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Speaker 1: based on age and based on how he's played the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years, but that's why you have agents,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see about the asking price and fit, so

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00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: we'll see. But I do think he'll test free agency.

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Speaker 1: That means I don't think they're close. Obviously, when you

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Speaker 1: get to the combine, that's when you have face to

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Speaker 1: face conversations, but these conversations can now take place over

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Speaker 1: zoom or FaceTime or just a phone call. So but

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Speaker 1: I do think he will test free agency. That's my

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Speaker 1: thought sitting here today. That cornerback position as a whole,

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Speaker 1: I think is real interesting because in addition to P two,

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Speaker 1: you've got Jonathan Joseph, Drake Kirkpatrick, Kevin Peterson all free agents,

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Speaker 1: so that leaves you Robert Alford, who the Cardinals have

567
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Speaker 1: not seen on the field in the first two seasons

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Speaker 1: of his three year contract and then Byron Murphy. That's it,

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Speaker 1: And that's not taking anything away from the two players

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Speaker 1: that they've signed the futures, but as far as cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: that the Cardinals know that they have on the roster

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty one or in some change between now

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Speaker 1: and then Alford and Murphy, so that right now has

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Speaker 1: to be at least as far as position groups are concerned,

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Speaker 1: where this team really needs to invest or make the

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Speaker 1: decision decisions quicker rather than later. Yeah, Jonathan Joseph, I

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Speaker 1: mean he was a late addition. He's up there in age.

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Speaker 1: I think he's one of those guys you would try

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Speaker 1: to bring back if you have an injury or in

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Speaker 1: training camp and you just want to show up a position.

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Speaker 1: From a veteran standpoint and very smart player. Still can

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Speaker 1: play not every down, he can play in pinches. Maybe

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Speaker 1: give you a couple starts a couple of weeks. Dreker Patrick,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of market's going to be

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Speaker 1: out there for him. I don't think he's a guy

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Speaker 1: that's a priority, but you do have to fill that spot.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind having him back, whether he's a second

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Speaker 1: or third corner. Kevin Peterson is a good special teams player,

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Speaker 1: not a priority, you know. I like Robert Alford hasn't

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Speaker 1: been able to stay healthy. You know, I think they

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Speaker 1: would have won, you know, a couple more games over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years if it would have been

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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson on the outside, Alfred on the other side,

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Speaker 1: and then Murphy and the inside. That's what they wanted.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately it didn't happen. So I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Clearly you're not going to bring him back at that figure,

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Speaker 1: so you know, it's got to stay healthy. And I

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00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: know he worked hard. There were videos at him and

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00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: Patrick posted guys had like I mean, they had eight packs.

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Speaker 1: They worked out hard, conditioning weights, trying to get faster

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Speaker 1: with their feet. So it wasn't lack of offseason workouts.

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Speaker 1: It was just he couldn't stay healthy. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they can pay him that figure, if they

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Speaker 1: want to get him back on a lower figure, I'd

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00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: be curious because he does bring something a position. But

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Speaker 1: we know about availability and durability. You got to be

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Speaker 1: available and you got to be durable, and that hasn't

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Speaker 1: been the case. It's been a lot of bad luck

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Speaker 1: to because going into the regular seasons these first two

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Speaker 1: years or these past two seasons, I should say he

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Speaker 1: has been right up there, if not the number one

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Speaker 1: corner right there next to Patrick Peterson as far as

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Speaker 1: how well he had played, not only in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: but certainly in training camp. Regardless of what happens though

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Speaker 1: with P two, this is a position that you certainly

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Speaker 1: want to get better ats and then certainly maybe younger

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Speaker 1: at as well. Does that mean you look to acquire someone,

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Speaker 1: sign someone or wait for the draft because you need corners.

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Speaker 1: You need to have five or six at your disposal.

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Speaker 1: And right now, as we talked about, Cardinals just have

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Speaker 1: two on the roster signed for twenty twenty one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the good news is they usually bring what twelve

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Speaker 1: to fourteen to camp. So you know, but we're looking

624
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Speaker 1: at names and we're going, okay, you got holes to Phil,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I want to we go closer to

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Speaker 1: the draft. You know, I always say you got to

627
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: get better in the trenches. But I do think cornerback

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Speaker 1: would be in play at number sixteen if they stayed there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, again, it's early February. They could sign one

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Speaker 1: in free agency. They could retain Patrick Peterson, but I

631
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: do think that's a position you're gonna have to find

632
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: a young guy like you do would Byron Murphy and

633
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Speaker 1: develop him. That could be in the first, second, or

634
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Speaker 1: third round. I mean they only have five draft picks.

635
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: At some point I'll run out of positions to mention

636
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: you bring up the trenches. I've made no secret I'd

637
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: like to see Corey Peters return. He's due to become

638
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent, as is Angela Blackson, Josh Morrell

639
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: and Demoto Peco. So defensive line, Yeah, you've got some

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Speaker 1: pieces there, especially young pieces with Zach Allen Lucky Foe

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Speaker 1: to Richard Lawrence, but some veteran presence in addition to

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Speaker 1: a Jordan Phillips who you have under contract. But personally,

643
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: and it's maybe a little sentimental, I do think Peters

644
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Speaker 1: would be a huge addition, not maybe specifically on the field,

645
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: but certainly off the field. Yeah, I don't think he's

646
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Speaker 1: willing to I don't think I don't think he's going

647
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: to try to break the bank. Clearly he loves living

648
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: out here, and no players at that point in their careers,

649
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: they got to make a decision that they want to

650
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: go play somewhere else for a year. I would like

651
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: to see him back. I just think he was he

652
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: was one of the better defensive lineman. He was better

653
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Speaker 1: than Jordan Phillips when he was in there. I could

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Speaker 1: say that with a straight phase. We know that as

655
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Speaker 1: you pointed out with Team Lucky and Richard Lawrence, Lucky

656
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: quoted to I think they could be, you know, more

657
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Speaker 1: than just two down defensive lineman. I like Blackson. Probably

658
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: not going to cost you a lot. I don't know

659
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: if that's going to be a priority, but you can

660
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: ever have enough depth. Josh Morrell to me that was

661
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: a late edition just because he was familiar with the

662
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Speaker 1: defense and they were looking for guys that can get

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Pecco agewise, I mean that would be

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Speaker 1: a September edition. So I don't know about Josh Morrow

665
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Speaker 1: and Peco. I thought Peco came in her game a lift,

666
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Speaker 1: but there was a reason why he was available. As

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Speaker 1: far as the linebacker position is concerned, inside, Dave Andre

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Speaker 1: Campbell is said to become an unrestricted free agents, and

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Speaker 1: yes he did play well, but you drafted Isaiah Simmons.

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Speaker 1: It would certainly make sense to just plug in Simmons

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Speaker 1: there and thank Campbell for his one year a service.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see. And then you brought

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Speaker 1: it up as we touched on the more interesting names

674
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Speaker 1: to sign. Reddick and yes, Marcus Golden are the edge rushers.

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Speaker 1: As far as you've got Chandler Jones, you've got Devon Kennard,

676
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: but you're certainly going to need other pieces, especially considering

677
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: Canard just didn't give you enough at least from what

678
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: we saw totality the free agents that they did sign

679
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: last year. Campbell, Phillips and Kennard, we're all good through

680
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: the first what five six weeks, and then it was

681
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: a matter of staying healthy and then the production just

682
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: never materialized to the amounts that what you paid for

683
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Speaker 1: these guys. So it'll be interesting to see what they do,

684
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Speaker 1: especially at outside linebacker or edge rush ri if you will. Yeah,

685
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Speaker 1: and you know, Campbell, to me, he really solidified covering

686
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Speaker 1: the tight end. I mean, you're gonna get beat at times,

687
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Speaker 1: and you know, we know the tight ends are what

688
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: they call matt Up issues. So when you get a

689
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: linebacker or safety on the line tight end, he did

690
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: a good job there. He was making seven point five,

691
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 1: so I don't see them bringing him back at that number.

692
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: And they got a guy that can slide in there.

693
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: And you know, again, I think he needs an offseason

694
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: like they all do, all first year players, all rookies,

695
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: all first and second year players. He needs a couple

696
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: preseason games and he'll be your starting inside linebacker next

697
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: to Hicks. You know, Hicks is you know, he's getting

698
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: a little bit older, still the captain of the defense,

699
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: Still a really good player, but they got to get

700
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: better pressure upfront to take some of the stress off

701
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: of him making tackles down the line of scrimmage or

702
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: versus you know, behind the line of scrimmage. So I'm

703
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: really intrigued with Isaiah Simmons. I think he could be

704
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: a three down backer. I like the way they could

705
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: use him. He's more physical than I thought watching him

706
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: in drills in camp. He could be violent with his hands.

707
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: So I like that position. You add some youth there

708
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: and a guy that can cover from sideline to sideline,

709
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: and he can line up at different positions. I know

710
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: didn't see much on the pass rushing, but we did

711
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: see him covering tight ends at playing a safety position,

712
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: So um, Kennard. I thought he did a good job

713
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: set in the edge early in the season. You know,

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00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones obviously had the one sack, but clearly he's

715
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: a guy that you have to I du so, yeah,

716
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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see what happens. But you know, I

717
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: like Golden just I think he can do more. He's

718
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: had some injuries, but he'd been healthy. Son had some

719
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, ankle issues. He can rush the passer. I

720
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: think he's home his craft. I want to see him

721
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: do it more than one year. I'm sure a lot

722
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: of gems or having the same conversation, so I don't know.

723
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Speaker 1: I'm torn. I don't know if you can resign both

724
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: of them, and then I also try to extend Chandler Jones.

725
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: Dennis Gardeck is going to be on the shelf at

726
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: least until half the season, maybe more in November. And then,

727
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: like I said, um, you know they've done a good

728
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: job trying to go out and get a pass rusher,

729
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, situational guy. So we'll see. I don't I

730
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: don't think it's a Dwight Freeney or John Abraham. I

731
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: think you've got to get somebody a little bit younger

732
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: that's you know, has flashed, but maybe he's playing behind

733
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Speaker 1: someone else that's making a lot more money. You know,

734
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: jj Watt's going to be out there, but that's going

735
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: to be a high cap number. He hasn't been able

736
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Speaker 1: to stay healthy. So but I do think jj Watt

737
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: will be available. I just don't think the Cardinals will

738
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: show any interest on the Reddick Golden debate, if there

739
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: is a debate, and that front office as far as yeah,

740
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: we know they can rush the pastor how good are

741
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: they as far as stopping the run, and if need be,

742
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: how athletic are they? What's their skill set to drop

743
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: back into coverage, whether that's a running back out of

744
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: the backfield or a tight end coming across or to

745
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: their side of the field. Who's better and those areas

746
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: if you had to make a choice, And it just

747
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: seems like just for me, and I think maybe I'm

748
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: weighing the sack toot a little bit more than maybe

749
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: I should. But that's where it tilts for me, Reddick

750
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: over Golden at least in this discussion. Yeah, and Reddick's

751
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: done a good job force and fumbles. He also plays

752
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: on special teams. He did have a nice stop on

753
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: one of those goal line situations. So I mean, now

754
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: if he's a full time starters to get the same

755
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: opportunities to back up, and obviously Rogers has some input.

756
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Who's going to be out there where? You know? I

757
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: think we know what you have in Golden I think

758
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: the ceiling is still a little bit higher for rassan

759
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: rider because he could rush the passer and only takes

760
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: one team. I mean that somebody can sign on one

761
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: year eight million dollars. You know, the tag is an option.

762
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: But when you tag someone and they signed the contract,

763
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: not that he would that money is being held up

764
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: and whether it's a transition tag or a franchise tag.

765
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: So I thought possibly they could put the tag on

766
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: with the interests of trading him, but I don't know

767
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: if that would be the case. I guess we're going

768
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: to find out what kind of markets out there. Again,

769
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: it's not a great draft for pass rushers. There are

770
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Speaker 1: four teams that have over sixty million in cap space,

771
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: and then you got a couple other If you have

772
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: thirty five to forty, you know, does somebody say, you

773
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: know we're going to give you a two year deal?

774
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: Is a little wit incentives or does he want to

775
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: come back here improve it again and that's the number

776
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: they got they gotta work on. So but I do

777
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: think there's going to be a market out there for

778
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Speaker 1: a sound Roddick. Definitely. We continue to talk Cardinals free

779
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: agencyer on this Monday edition Cardinals Covered two presented by

780
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: Hunday Proud, partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Let's flip it

781
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: to the offensive side of the ball and backup quarterback

782
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: Bretton Hunley is a free agent at this point. I

783
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: don't see him returning just because while he was inactive

784
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: all season long. But this team does need to address

785
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: backup quarterback and we've touched on it here on Cardinals

786
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: Covered two. They also need to find a running back,

787
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: maybe a number one or at least a tag team

788
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: partner with a Chase Edmonds because Kenyan Drake is set

789
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: to hit free agency as his DJ foster. When you

790
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: look at running backs in totality, yeah, I think they're

791
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: gonna allow Kenyan Drake to test free agency. I think

792
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: the plan is to possibly, you know, make Chase the

793
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: number one guy. And I do think they'll draft a

794
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: running back. I mean, you look at the free agent list,

795
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: and you know, it seems like they want to They

796
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: want a guy that's you know, a little bit more

797
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: where he can get the tough two or three yards,

798
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: so guy like five eleven, two twenty five. And you

799
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: know there's some you know, the draft, obviously, people are

800
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the first round and if one of

801
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: those players are there, do you go best available or

802
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: do you wait to the second or third round? Again,

803
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: they only have five picks, and that's why I anticipate

804
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: they'll try to get another third round pick if they can.

805
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: But I do think it is Chase his job to lose,

806
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: and then we'll see what happens with you know, Benjamin

807
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: DJ Foster, Jonathan Ward. You know, those two guys got

808
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: to plan on special teams. But you know, I do

809
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: think they'll they'll take a running back in the draft,

810
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: and if there's a free agent out there. I love

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00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: Carlo Carlos Hyde. I thought he was a good one

812
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: two punch what he did in Seattle. He was in

813
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: Houston prior to that, but I haven't heard his name,

814
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: but you do we want to bring a veteran, you

815
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: would think just for depth and possibly competition. But I

816
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: do think Chase will get that every opportunity. When it

817
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: comes to the pass catchers, I do think wide receiver

818
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: will be addressed at some point, regardless of whether Fits

819
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: comes back or not, just because of the number of

820
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: question marks you have behind DeAndre Hopkins. And then you

821
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: look at the tight end position. Max Williams is the

822
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: only one who's under contract for this upcoming season. Dan Arnold,

823
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: Darrell Daniels, and Seth the Valve are all due to

824
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: hit unrestricted free agency, and that tight end position has

825
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: certainly been something that yes it's been used and then

826
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: sometimes it's been ignored. But I think, as we've seen

827
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: in the postseason, you do need to have either a

828
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: blocking tight end or a tight end like a Travis Kelsey.

829
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Speaker 1: Yes they're few and far between, but someone who can

830
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: do both at as far as block and certainly passes

831
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: down the scene. Yeah, and the way the league is going,

832
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean we can look at wide receiver. Clearly they

833
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: need a number two. If not, Christian Kirk needs to

834
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: step up. You know, we'll wait and see about Isabella

835
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: and Keishawn Johnson. We know Trent Sherfield's more of a

836
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: special teams player, even though I think he runs good routes.

837
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he can't have enough tight ends, and you know,

838
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: we know that Max Williams. You know, he's a guy

839
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: that needs to stay healthy. And you know he's a

840
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna put his face in the fans, so

841
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some injuries. He's the meat and potatoes.

842
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: That's why I look at I like Dan Arrold's upside.

843
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: Don't know what his asking press. I like Darrell Daniels.

844
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: I think he showed progress that could be a guy

845
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: that can play on special teams, good death guy. I

846
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: think he improved as a blocker where they didn't have

847
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: to bring in Josh Jones as much. Maybe you could,

848
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, two tight end sets, and I think Cliff

849
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: is going to look at two tight end sets again.

850
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Speaker 1: I mean it's something that obviously sean cooler starts up

851
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: front and you can run the ball out of that.

852
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: You could throw it. So I like to see and

853
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: retained Arnold and Daniels self develop to me, he's a

854
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: guy they brought in because the numbers, Well, you bring

855
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: up offensive line, let's hit that next Calvin Beacham, you're

856
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: starting right tackle, Max Garcia, backup interior lineman, and j R. Sweezy,

857
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: who began the season as you're starting right guard and

858
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: then finished it as the backup guard because Justin Murray

859
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: had supplanted him and the starting lineup. But Beach, him,

860
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: Garcia and Sweezy you'r key free agents to be on

861
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I wouldn't expect a lot of movement,

862
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: but you certainly do have to figure out what you're

863
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: gonna do right tackle and whether Murray is your right

864
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: guard going into this upcoming season. Yeah, and we got

865
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: a chance to see the Cardinals make some rotation and

866
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: players will say all the right things, but I don't

867
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: know if that's how they really feel. You want to

868
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: be out there with the same five guys. But I

869
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: trust Coogler. He's going to play the best guy, so

870
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: I'll defer to him there on that. I would retain

871
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: Calvin Beecham thought he brought some leadership to the locker room.

872
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: I really liked, you know, the fact that you know

873
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: he's been around the league a little bit, so he

874
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: knows what's going on. I think he'd be your right tackle.

875
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm an open competition if they because Marcus Gilbert is

876
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: on the contract as he want to play a y

877
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: opted out and then you got Josh Jones, who could

878
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: be your swing tackle. Max Garcay. We just didn't get

879
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: a chance. But clearly they valued him as a backup

880
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: guard or center, and he was ready to go. It's

881
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: just unfortunate for him. He just didn't get the playing time. Sweezy.

882
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: You know, Sweezy started to break down last year. And

883
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: give him a ton of credit because he plays physical. Now.

884
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: I liked the signing when they signed him from Seattle

885
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: a weekend the opponent, but it was clear that Justin

886
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: Murray's younger and more athletic, so Murray could be your

887
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: right guard. So I don't I don't see Sweezy on

888
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: the radar unless you know he doesn't get a job

889
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: before training camp. But you know, we'll see what they

890
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: decided to do with center. I thought Mason Cole took

891
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: a step back last year. I guess we can make

892
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: the case that a huge ship League was the glue

893
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: of that offensive line just being a veteran guy, you know, Cole,

894
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring up the false starts, but it's more

895
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: about getting pressure and maybe it's difficult for Kyler or

896
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: something up in the pocket. If if Sweezy's getting pushed

897
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: back and Pew's getting pushed back and Cole's getting pushed back,

898
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: and that could be why the offensive line didn't look

899
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: as good as they were in the month of December.

900
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: We know Kenyan Drake was trying to dance a little bit,

901
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: so I think it's a catch twenty two. It's it's

902
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: got to get better there. So I trust Coogler. You know,

903
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule out of alignement interior alignment for the future.

904
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: I think they feel good about Murray, they feel good

905
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: about Justin Pugh. I know it's his cap numbers high,

906
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: but he's played really well. I really liked the left

907
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: side of the line. Now you're going to try to

908
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: duplicate that across the board, so we'll have to wait

909
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: and see. But Marcus Gilbert is under contract. I want

910
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: to see what he can do when healthy, and he

911
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: didn't opt out, and then you got Beach him great

912
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: veteran presence, you know. I know we covered Corey Peters

913
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: for a long time, but he kind of reminded me

914
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: of Corey Peters inside that locker room we were in there.

915
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: But you can just tell on his zoom calls how

916
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: smart he is and how he's a team guy. Good

917
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: comparison or a good comparison as far as between those

918
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: two players. Finally, the Cardinals need to figure out who

919
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: is going to be doing the kicking and punting this

920
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: coming season. Zane Gonzalez, Mike Nugent, Andy Lee all scheduled

921
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: to become unrestricted free agents. Well, you know, Andy Lee

922
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: was in the same draft class as Larry Fitzgerald. I mean,

923
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: I thought he was a great addition, you know, obviously

924
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: when you get up there in age and you know

925
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: he's missed a few games, not so much this year,

926
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: but last year. I want to get younger at that position. Um,

927
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't know if he wants

928
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: to retire. I mean, it's been a great career in

929
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: the fact that he's played seventeen years. If he was

930
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: in the same draft class as Larry Fitzgerald, Zane's that

931
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: that's a big, big question. They believe in him, you know,

932
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: is he believed in himself? You know, I don't. I

933
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: don't know how confident he is in the offseason because

934
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: he knows, you know, what happened last year. Mike nugis

935
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: thirty eight years old, so I think we could see

936
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: some changes there, but I know that they still believe

937
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: in Zane. And now it's a matter of what kind

938
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: of contract he wants, and you know, maybe it's I

939
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: think they're prepared to give him a two or three

940
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: year deal obviously, you know, it's you can get out

941
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: of it, what kind of signing bonus. But I don't

942
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: know what kind of market's going to be out there

943
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: with him based on what's happened. And we know these kickers,

944
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, once you get a little bit older, you

945
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: could try outs. You know, sometimes they'll bring in in

946
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: camp and you look at Ryan suck Up and some

947
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: of these other guys, Stephen Golskowski. So it's unusual to

948
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: be on one team for your entire career, even though

949
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: it's a second team. But I still believe that the

950
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: organization believes in Zane guns outs. Now it's just a

951
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: matter of you know, what happened, and he'll have to

952
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: have that conversation with Jeff Rogers, a special teams coordinator. Again,

953
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: that is a broad overview of the cardinal situation when

954
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: it comes to free agency. And then of course March

955
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: seventeenth is the day that you can officially sign free agents.

956
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: That is the start of the new league year, but

957
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: you can sign your own free agents anytime. I mean,

958
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: that could have gone at the end of the regular season,

959
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: but so far no one has resigned with the Arias

960
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals, and we'll see if anyone does between

961
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: now and March seventeenth, when that kind of opens up

962
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: to the rest of the league. Well, I think, you know,

963
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: once again, you know the rumor over the weekend the

964
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: cap will go from one seventy five to one eighty.

965
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see. So I still think teams are

966
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: trying to figure out when they look at that pie,

967
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: and you've got to, you know, figure out the slices

968
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: because we know that some vesturans are going to get

969
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: squeezed this offseason, and some veterans are gonna have to

970
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: sign one year deals. So the salary cap can go

971
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: back up seventeen game schedules that I mean seventeen checks.

972
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: But Craig, going back to the backup quarterback, I think

973
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: you and I an agree what we watched in the

974
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: month of December and in the postseason, you have to

975
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: have a viable backup quarterback. And I know fans are

976
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: going to say that that should have been brought Hunley,

977
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: and I don't disagree now, but that wasn't the case

978
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: in training camp and we got to sit chance to

979
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: see him early in the season. We didn't see him

980
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: after that until Kyler got hurt. I don't know what

981
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: his asking price would be, but I Ryan Fitzpatrick is

982
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: very intriguing to me. And I know these guys, you know,

983
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: like the case Keendoms. I looked up his contract. He's

984
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: making five or six. We know Chase Daniels, some of

985
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: these guys, and some teams don't value backup quarterbacks, like

986
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Seems like they haven't done it. The Niners,

987
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: even though they drafted C. J. Bethard, they found Nick Mullins,

988
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: the Rams, we know they don't invest in backup quarterbacks.

989
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: But what I watched in December and what happened to

990
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and some of these teams they got into

991
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: the postseason, I think and Hunley it would be the

992
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: guy if he was a free agent right now, I'd

993
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: say that's but clearly they know what they have in him,

994
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: so I don't want to say he'll be the guy,

995
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: But I to me, Case Keener made the most sense,

996
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 1: but he's stolen the contract, he's he's in clear even

997
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: they obviously made him to backup. And when they let

998
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: you Stanton go, but I think you got to make sure.

999
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: And I know you may have to pay two to

1000
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: four million dollars. You know a lot of these guys,

1001
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, teams that don't value backup quarterbacks. That's

1002
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: what these guys are getting one or two million. So

1003
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: I know, salary caps going down, but the season could

1004
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: go down if you don't have the right guy. I

1005
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: think that's important distinction right there, because whoever your backup is,

1006
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: you must be prepared. You must be confident they can

1007
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: go out and win you games, not just play games,

1008
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: but win you games for a three, four or five

1009
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: weeks stretch, just to kind of hold tide until your

1010
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: starter comes back. Now, if you lose your starter, then

1011
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean then all bets are off.

1012
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean, no team can really survive on a backup

1013
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: quarterback for an extended period of time, but for three,

1014
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: four or five weeks, yes, And I don't think hindsight,

1015
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: being twenty twenty, that the Cardinals were in position to say, yes,

1016
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: we could rely on a Christler for a three, four

1017
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: or five week period. If Kyler Murray went down and

1018
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: we saw that small sample size, I get it. But

1019
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: week seventeen, Yeah, and the Raiders went out and spend,

1020
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, good money on Marcus Mariota. Maybe the process

1021
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 1: down the road, they'll trade Derek Carr. That's the conversation

1022
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 1: with another day. But Chad Henny would he do? Okay,

1023
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: now he's been in the system and the thing, I

1024
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 1: got it. And again Ryan Fitzpatrick, he still wants to play,

1025
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: but anywhere he goes, they're usually trying to replace him,

1026
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: you know. But to me to just the knowledge and

1027
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: the IQ and the smarts just being in the same

1028
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: room with Kyler Murray, he's not going to push envil

1029
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: to start. He knows his role and that's that's important

1030
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: because you know, Hanley knew the circumstances here, but maybe

1031
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: he thought, you know, being a rookie, I can get

1032
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: it in there and play. You don't want a guy

1033
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: that's gonna be looking over Kyler Murray's shoulder though. I mean,

1034
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: and I get the competition part, but it's very clear

1035
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: who the quarterback is. And I think Ryan Fitzpatrick just

1036
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: based on his experience this is home for him, and

1037
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: somebody could offer him five million dollars. You know, he's

1038
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: not afraid to move around and moves his family. But

1039
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: to me, he'd be the perfect fit, just a veteran

1040
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: guy to help Kyler Murray when it comes to film session.

1041
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: You know what you're looking for breaking the huddle, and

1042
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: that could be any somebody else, but he really intrigues me.

1043
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: I just don't know if it's the asking price. And

1044
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, he could go to a team that drafts

1045
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first round and he's the starter,

1046
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: and that's what's going to happen to his entire career,

1047
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: where here he would just be the backup. It is

1048
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: a great discussion, great debate, and we'll have plenty of

1049
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: those between now and certainly the start of free agency

1050
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: and now between the starts of the NFL Draft as well.

1051
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: Will kind of go position by a position as far

1052
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: as where this team needs to upgrade and then where

1053
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: this team maybe needs to bring back some of those

1054
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: pieces that were so good in this just completed twenty

1055
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: twenty seasons where you want them to be on the

1056
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: field in twenty twenty one. And on that note, we

1057
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: will put a lid on. This edition of Cardinals Cover

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1059
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Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer, Jim Mama

1060
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: hundred for Mike Jarecki. I'm preg Riel Loup. We'll talk

1061
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