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Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, November two, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jay Skith's here in the Classic Factory, and to

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Speaker 2: my left it's the bearded one Atapsha hot boy, Trey Kirby,

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Speaker 2: Hey up, heyoh, and over Yonder filling in for JD.

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Speaker 3: Today it's the Apprentice. It's eshaa kid. Hi, y'all doing

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Speaker 2: Trey got a question for you, Yes, what's your favorite

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Speaker 2: Nirvana song?

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Speaker 3: So go to No Dunks dot Com.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be reminding you here over the next

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Speaker 2: On today's show, Ramona Shelburne of ESPN has an interesting

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Speaker 2: article up on the James Horden James Harden excuse me,

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Speaker 2: Darryl Moury era ending if you want to call it,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna break that down later. But we had

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Speaker 2: thirteen games on last night. We can't get to the mall.

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Speaker 2: But you know what we can do. We can draft

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Speaker 2: the best games from last night, the most entertaining, whatever

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Speaker 2: ones you want to talk about, Trey, I am a

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Speaker 2: first pick in drafting the best games from last night's

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Speaker 2: thirteen games, Slate, what are you starting with?

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, Skeets, I didn't have this game on

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Speaker 3: my draft board heading into the night. No, Dearren Fox

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Speaker 3: for the Sacramento Kings. We just saw the Warriors and

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Speaker 3: Here for the Warriors this season, he prize. It comes

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Speaker 3: pair him with him? Yes, makes some sense. All these

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Speaker 2: in California. California Lakers. That was a wizard reference for you.

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Speaker 2: Lakers hold off the Clippers one thirty to one twenty

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Speaker 2: The Lakers did to the Clips in the LA rivalry.

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Speaker 2: Lebron a monster thirty five points, twelve boards, seven assists.

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Speaker 2: He ended up playing forty two minutes to secure the win.

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Speaker 2: Paul George fouled out in overtime, but he had twenty

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Speaker 3: The giant guys. I would have liked to see Alex

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Speaker 2: Sweet, I can't believe that was the first time the

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Speaker 3: I thought Jonas Valanciunis helping bring the Pelicans back, was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a nationally televised game. This one's oniest

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Speaker 2: think that's correct. But entertaining, I mean entertaining. The Thunder

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Speaker 2: just could not hit a three. I mean seven for

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Speaker 3: Where did you go? Isaiah?

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Speaker 2: struggling struggling from distance. That's like twenty percent. I think

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Speaker 2: seven for thirty four. Yeah, twenty one percent if you

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Speaker 2: want a round up. So Pelicans man three and one,

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Speaker 2: Thunder three and two, and these are two, you know,

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Speaker 2: even the Pelicans aren't fully healthy because their bench is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and kind of differing styles too, with the beefy

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Speaker 3: chat Holmgren will be telling his kids someday about Yonas.

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Speaker 3: Valanchuna is just putting him in the basket time and

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Speaker 3: certainly a masher. Obviously, Zion likes to live inside too,

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Speaker 2: My number two pick from last night's games. I'm swerving

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Speaker 2: so hard here. I'm taking Tatum scoring thirty as the

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Speaker 2: Celtics crush the Pacers one fifty five to one oh four.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking a one to fifty five to one oh

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Speaker 3: But here's my thinking.

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Speaker 2: There's thirteen games on last night and Survivor. There's too

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Speaker 2: much television, too much action. We actually needed games like this.

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Speaker 2: We needed games where a twenty point first half lead

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Speaker 2: the plane was reel in this instance because we could

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Speaker 2: just tune out. Boston opened a ten point lead in

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Speaker 2: This team is undefeated. I wanted to slip in some

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Speaker 2: but they're taking care of business. And the Celtics here man,

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Speaker 2: it looks it looks awesome through four games. Like this

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Speaker 2: starting lineup is stacked. They had seventy five points at

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Speaker 2: halftime for the second straight game. Thank you Boston for

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Speaker 2: we could tune out. No Haliburton for the Pacers, they

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Speaker 3: He didn't play the fourth quarter thirty and twelve, four assists,

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Speaker 3: hit three threes, but he's not in the MVP conversation

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Speaker 3: right now. I didn't watch a minute of this game, Skeets.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm here, man. Yeah, I had it. I

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Speaker 3: getting bigger, exactly exactly. I was like, yeah, maybe I'll

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Speaker 2: Once for five. Listen to this Boston's one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty five points was the most for the franchise since

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Speaker 2: Holy crap, one hundred fifty five points.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot. I know, we got some crazy scores nowadays.

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Speaker 3: That is a ton of points in regulation. So there

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Speaker 2: I'm swerving with a blowout for Game two. Back to

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Speaker 2: you number three pick from last night, Well it's left

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a huge reach at the number four pick.

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Speaker 3: It took months, literally months for them to lose a game.

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Speaker 3: But the Timberwolves led the entirety of this game. Mike

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Speaker 3: lot of times when they're playing go bear Towns and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, the Wolves, The Wolves are gonna be. I

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Speaker 2: stat there showing up that Yokich has more overs then assists,

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00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 2: you like your chances to.

432
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 3: Win the game.

433
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, credit there to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

434
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 3: That's a that's a big win.

435
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 2: Hey man, I was told they they played them better

436
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 2: than anyone in last last year's postseason.

437
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 3: Maybe it's true, it's a very least I think you

438
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 3: can look at the timber Wolves playing the Nuggets and say,

439
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,399
Speaker 3: we probably got to have two big guys out there.

440
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,439
Speaker 3: It ain't gonna cut it. If you're even like a

441
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 3: bam out of Bayo, like not the hugest center, one

442
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 3: of the best defensive players in the league. We saw

443
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 3: how the finals went. You gotta have two, uh just

444
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 3: one to take the bumps and one to help over top.

445
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably all right. I like that pick with my

446
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 2: third pick sixth overall. Drafting last night's games, I almost

447
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 2: had it in my two spot, but I bumped it

448
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: down because it was a pretty gross ending, if I'm

449
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 2: being honest. The nets rallied in the second half to

450
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,919
Speaker 2: beat the Heat one oh nine, one o five to

451
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 2: add to Miami's miserable one in four start here. I

452
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 2: think that's four straight. I think they won their opener.

453
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 2: Fun story for this one, though, are Money Brooks?

454
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 3: Remember that name? Former Hawk?

455
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: That's right, former Raptor. I think he had a cup

456
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 2: of coffee there a couple of games played anyway.

457
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 3: On Tuesday, Brooks.

458
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 2: Was in the G League on Long Island.

459
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 3: You say on Long Island, not in Long Island.

460
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,679
Speaker 2: They get very mad if you say in and he

461
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 2: was told, hey, we need you up here, man, get

462
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: on a flight to Miami or down here.

463
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 3: I guess I should say so.

464
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 2: After that workout with the G League team. He joined

465
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: the big boys, and this guy he comes off the bench,

466
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: hits five threes, gave him seventeen points in sixteen minutes, helped,

467
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 2: you know, ignite this rally along with Trendon Watford. Remember him,

468
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 2: he played for the.

469
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 3: Blazers, that's right. It was any night, that's right.

470
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: He played great, sort of asked almost to be a

471
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 2: point guard in a weird way.

472
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 3: He's a big dude.

473
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 2: He had eleven points, four boards, four assists and a

474
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 2: steal in fourteen minutes. But these bench guys really got

475
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 2: things going for the Nets here, and it was Brooks

476
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 2: and Watford beating the Miami Heat, which is wild because

477
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 2: the Nets were down class. They were down Dinwitty, they

478
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: were down Cam Johnson. No Dennis Smith Junior there as

479
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 2: a as a backup point guard. So it was these

480
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 2: guys and then Bridges sort of sealed the deal at

481
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 2: the end. But man, I gotta say the NBA their

482
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 2: YouTube page saying like wild finishes, fantastic finishes, they give

483
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 2: us the great cut. I don't think they needed to

484
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 2: do it with this one. It was a close game,

485
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 2: but it was a lot of mishots and not the

486
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: greatest execution for both teams, I would say down the stretch,

487
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: but the Nets got it done and Nets culture beats

488
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 2: Heat culture. This it was weird scrap you in here

489
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 2: by a bunch of like no name Nets guys.

490
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: If we're being honest, Yeah, I agree. This was not

491
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 3: a fantastic finish, though it was branded as such. My

492
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: two takeaways from this were just disgusting offense from the

493
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: Miami Heat and the fourth quarter. They were outscored thirty

494
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,239
Speaker 3: four to twenty two, but they also got two like

495
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: garbage time. I mean, it's kind of hard to have

496
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 3: garbage time in a four point game, but they kind

497
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: of work. Tyler Herro hit a couple of threes yeah, late,

498
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 3: so they really scored sixteen points when they were trying

499
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: to and it looked like every possession was a struggle

500
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: for them to even get did Jimmy like, what's the

501
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: ball in most of these possessions? Not a ton? It

502
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 3: was definitely more so Hero. I guess he took five shots. Bam,

503
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 3: Bam chucked up one, yeah, Bam chucked yeah. Yeah. It

504
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 3: was not not a great look for the Heat. And

505
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,479
Speaker 3: I also thought that Bam and Tyler Hero are wearing

506
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 3: Lebron James in twenty twelve style headbands. These things are

507
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 3: so wide skins, Yeah that Tyler heroes like folds over.

508
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: It's so big. Yeah, but Jimmy Butler has a normal

509
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: sized one, so I know they're out there.

510
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: Are you panicking about the Miami heat here?

511
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 3: After this? Uh one? And I buried him last year.

512
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: I was like, this sucks. They want they they're doing this.

513
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 3: They're doing it all purpose. Yeah, like we're dead. We

514
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: suck right us off exactly. But it's it's not pretty.

515
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: This game was gross. You're right.

516
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: It was all hero down the stretch and I mean

517
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: he scored a lot, but Jimmy was like nowhere to

518
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: be seen in this one. But yeah, good on the nets.

519
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: A couple of victories here again, this felt like Nets

520
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: of old. Like I'm talking like the pre Kyrie KD

521
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: sort of Nets version where it was a bunch of

522
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,239
Speaker 2: like who's that that guy? He's in the league and

523
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: like they sort of like all bonded together and surprised

524
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: a lot of people. And that's what this type of

525
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: victory was. You see Ben Simmons shoes, those bright blue shoes.

526
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: I guess I did, because he's got the entire black

527
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: uniform and he's got the black leggings.

528
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: They really popped there. I know you're a soul man. Yeah,

529
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 3: I was busy looking at head bands last night. Yea,

530
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 3: I guess eleven rebounds though for Simmons, he is fourteenth

531
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 3: in the league in rebounding right now, ten boards a game. Yeah,

532
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: he can do it. You can do it exactly. I mean,

533
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 3: if all they're asking for him is the rebound, then

534
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 3: he's doing great.

535
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: Hey, they got the victory. All right, we'll make this

536
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: our final pick here. We're gonna leave a lot left

537
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: on the board. What is your fourth pick? Seventh overall

538
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: from last night's games.

539
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: You know how, sometimes late in the second of a draft,

540
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: a team will take a player from a local college

541
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 3: or maybe that went to high school nearby, just for

542
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: the good vibes. Yeah, That's what I'll be doing with

543
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: my pick. That's all I'm doing with this. The MAVs

544
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: beat the Bulls last night. Tit one all night, like

545
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: twenty plus lead changes in this game. It was back

546
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 3: and forth the entire time. The Bulls actually did a

547
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 3: really good job of forcing other Dallas Mavericks besides Luka

548
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 3: Doncics to beat them. The other Dallas Mavericks did a

549
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 3: good job of beating the Bulls last night. Bulls were

550
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: doubling hard on Luca. He scored only eighteen points, five

551
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: of sixteen from the floor, six turnovers to ten assists

552
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 3: for Luca. He did get to a triple double. But man,

553
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 3: the Mavericks beat the Bulls the way you should beat them.

554
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: If they're doubling Luka Doncic, you're gonna have open threes,

555
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: and the MAVs knocked them down. They hit twenty on

556
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 3: the night. Tim Hardaway Junior hit seven of them, Grant

557
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: Williams hit seven of them, and in the fourth quarter

558
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 3: there were big three pointers from Williams, from Jalen Hardy

559
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: and from Josh Green, and then another one from Grant

560
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: Williams to really ice it. He held the follow through

561
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: in the corner. Just a great way to rub it

562
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 3: in on somebody. Without Kyrie irving out there, the MAVs

563
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: needed to get offense from somebody else. The Bulls knew

564
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: going in, if we can take Luke out of the game,

565
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a chance. They played it close, but

566
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: the other MAVs came through throughout the game and then

567
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: in the clutch as well.

568
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, this is I got to take back everything

569
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: I said about the Mavericks tanking at the end of

570
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 2: last season to keep their pick.

571
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: It was smart, It was brilliant smart.

572
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: Jack Lvely has been awesome for them, you know, thirteen boards,

573
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: six assists from the big man, you know, at least

574
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: seven points, but playing his role perfectly. We loved the

575
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: Grant Williams addition. He's awesome in this one, twenty five

576
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: for him. Seven threes. Tim Hardaway Junior, the guy that

577
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: I keeps telling you is going to go for fifty

578
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: points in one of these games, Well he got nearly

579
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 2: half of them last night twenty four. He hit seven threes.

580
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: And yeah, the MAVs like the Celtics four to o again.

581
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: Schedule's been fairly kind. They haven't played a bunch of

582
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: the best teams yet. But look they're taking care of business.

583
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: Man.

584
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: They're getting racking up these wins four and zero, undefeated

585
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 2: them in the Celtics.

586
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said that Luca had a triple Doublely only

587
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: had seven rebounds. He was slacking last year eighteen ten

588
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: and seven. But the MAVs play against the Nuggets in

589
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: their next game. There we go in Denver. Denver, obviously

590
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 3: coming off their first loss of the season, should be

591
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: a good one.

592
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: My final pick, yeah, I'm going local, just to please

593
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: the fan base. You know, a bring a good kid

594
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 2: in the people. Saw him out on the courts, saw

595
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: him in high school, saw him at the community college.

596
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: Like you said, I will be drafting the Raptors. Victory

597
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: because Dennis Shruder had twenty four points and eleven assists,

598
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: very important to lead the Raps past the Bucks one

599
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: thirty to one eleven.

600
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: Excuse me.

601
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: Toronto came into last night's game with the league's worst

602
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: scoring offense, the worst offensive rating. They were making thirty

603
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: three percent of their threes only forty two and a

604
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: half percent of their shots, which was almost dead last

605
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: in the league. And they put up these type numbers

606
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: last night against the Bucks, just easily surpassing those numbers

607
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: against Milwaukee. I also tweeted the other night, I guess

608
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 2: it was on Halloween night. Man, it turns out you

609
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: really need a starting point guard in this league. Look

610
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: at the Calves without Darius Garland they had lost to

611
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: the Knicks. Look at the Grizzlies without John Morant. Hell,

612
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: look at them without their star backup in Tyas Jones

613
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: and them losing and they're rower and five, and then

614
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: I said, and it was a it was a little

615
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: bit of a little gut punch. Look at the Raptors

616
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: because they were struggling, especially after that brutal loss to

617
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: the Blazers. Well, Shrewder, shut me up. This guy was awesome,

618
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: phenomenal floor general last night. Some beautiful dimes and the

619
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: ball moved. Thirty five assists on fifty one shots. This

620
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: is what Darko was selling me on. And it was awesome.

621
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: They just attacked the Bucks defense all night. Look the

622
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: Bucks defense looks looks shaky. You can you could if

623
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: you're a guard, you've got that one circled because you

624
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: h a lot of guards. If you go and look

625
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: at the game so far, even in the in theories,

626
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: I think Hero had a monster game in one of

627
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: the losses. There they're putting up some numbers you can

628
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: put obviously, put Damian Lillard in action. Sort of the

629
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: help comes and they have a whole new defensive game

630
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: plan under Griffin that they're trying to figure that out,

631
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: I think. But swing that ball and you're gonna find

632
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: an open player. And if you can hit your shots,

633
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: you can win and beat them in. They just took

634
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: air of business. So this was the best the Raptors

635
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: have looked in a long time. Scottie Barnes has been

636
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: amazing this season. I know it's probably not getting talked

637
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: about a lot because they were struggling there and they

638
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: don't have a great.

639
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: Record so far, but he's been great.

640
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: Siakam hittories last night and like I said, shrewder Poh,

641
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: he looked like a point guard. He looked like Foba

642
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: Shruder there.

643
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: That was amazing. Do you see that pass he had

644
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: the perol? Oh?

645
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we looked like you're gonna lay it in. They're

646
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: like threw it over his head. Good game, dominant victory

647
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Speaker 2: from the Raptors. They crushed them.

648
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the Bucks have the worst defense in

649
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Speaker 3: the league right now. Ah yeah, I believe that. I mean,

650
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: they did just give up one hundred and thirty the

651
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: night prior, and we haven't played that many games, so

652
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: it can be easily affected. I probably they will not

653
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: be the worst defense in the league at the end

654
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Speaker 3: of the season. But like you're saying, new personnel, a

655
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: new coaching and a new scheme and it looks like

656
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: they're trying to figure out what's happening kind of on

657
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: both ends of the court right now. We haven't seen

658
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: a ton of Giannis and Dame Lillard pick and roll

659
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: something that the Bucks will want to have hammered out

660
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: by the time they get to the postseason. But for now, yeah,

661
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: they're looking like a team trying to find their way.

662
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: Not dissimilar to like Lebron and Dwyane Wade joining together

663
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: with the Miami Heat all those years and they started

664
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Speaker 3: what nine and eight, and we're like, whoa, things are

665
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: odd here. That's not fitting perfectly. After the start that

666
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Speaker 3: Lillard had thirty nine points hitting the shots in the

667
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: Bucks season opener, it looked like it was gonna be hey,

668
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Speaker 3: we're ready to roll. Yeah, turns out you do need

669
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Speaker 3: a little time together to make things work.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's our picks. Who's left sitting in the

671
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Speaker 2: green room? That's surprised you here? Who are they showing

672
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: on camera just sitting there with their family, just shaking

673
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: their heads going using it as motivation that they were

674
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Speaker 2: overlooked in the first round of the draft.

675
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Speaker 3: I think the Calves beating the Knicks. They're Probab probably

676
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: a little upset. We saw them. We just saw them there,

677
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: but the Caves looked really bad and the loss to

678
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Speaker 3: the next and they hit back pretty hard last night.

679
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Speaker 3: I'm also excited to talk about the Wizards and the Hawks,

680
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: but that's for later. So that's like an undrafted free

681
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: agent that we're gonna be picking out. And maybe the Rockets.

682
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: They got a victory. They gotta win last night, so

683
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Speaker 3: they probably want to be talked about. Shout out to

684
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: the Rockets.

685
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: Peaked up big dough, good stuff for them.

686
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: And the Blazers beat the Pistons. I thought the Pistons,

687
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: we're gonna run away with that.

688
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Speaker 2: When Porton got back into it, Shandon Sharp was huge

689
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Speaker 2: in the second half. Shout out to Canada. We're gonna

690
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Speaker 2: take a break when we come back. We're gonna look

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Speaker 2: at ESPN's Ramona Shelbourne's article titled Painting Silence in History,

692
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Speaker 2: the final straw of the James Harden Darryl Murray era

693
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Speaker 2: don't go anywhere. Okay, still kicking it here in the

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Speaker 2: Classic Factory, hit the like button, make sure you subscribe,

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Speaker 2: comment away there in the stream Team podcast, listeners leave

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Speaker 2: your boys a five star.

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Speaker 3: Rating and review.

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Speaker 2: It's a segment we haven't done a lot here on

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Speaker 2: No Dunks, but we're bringing it back. It's time for

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Speaker 2: read and reacts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, read and react. Grab your iPads, Grandpa. I like

702
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Speaker 3: to turn on some heavy guitar music when I'm kicking

703
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: back to read. That's very soothing. So yes.

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Speaker 2: ESPN's Ramona Shelbourne yesterday posting an article on the end

705
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Speaker 2: really of the Harden Moury era. It was titled Paintings,

706
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Speaker 2: Silence and History, the final straw of the James Harden

707
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Speaker 2: Daryl Morey Era. I have pulled some of the most intriguing,

708
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Speaker 2: interesting sort of parts from Ramona's article that I wanted

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00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: to throw at you and we could dissect. So first one,

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00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: According to league sources, Harden and his camp became convinced

711
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: Maury only intended to offer him a two year deal

712
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: with a team option on the second season if he

713
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: declined his thirty five point six million dollar player option

714
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: and became a free agent at the end of June,

715
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: essentially turning in turning Harden into a year to year player.

716
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: I start with this one tray because we have been

717
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what did it?

718
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: What really pissed James off, and Ramona's sources say it

719
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 3: was this type of deal that they wanted to offer

720
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: James that probably upset them after you had taken a

721
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: pay cut to sort of help out the team the

722
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: year prior. Thoughts, Hey, it's always the money. It's always

723
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: the money. Ain't no surprise here. James Harden is thirty four.

724
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to be negotiating a contract every single season.

725
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: He wants to lock in some big money. And honestly,

726
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Speaker 3: if I'm James Harden and I think about the way

727
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: things went with Philadelphia, I signed a deal where I

728
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Speaker 3: had a player option for the second year. Everybody said,

729
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: for that second year, just come back, just play for them,

730
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Speaker 3: ball out, have a great season. You'll get a max deal.

731
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Speaker 3: He's probably thinking, that's what I just did, right, I

732
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 3: just signed a one in one contract, led the league

733
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Speaker 3: and assist two forty point game in the playoffs. Some

734
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: stant crucial part don't mention that. But still, he did

735
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Speaker 3: play pretty well last season, yes, and was on the

736
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Speaker 3: outside of the All Star conversation. Could have easily made it.

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00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: I suppose you could have made a case for him

738
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: for All NBA as well. What I'm saying is James

739
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: Harden had a pretty good year last year, helped Embiid

740
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: win the MVP, something that's important to him, something that's

741
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: important to the seventy six ers franchise. I would have

742
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: to believe. So to have to try and run it

743
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Speaker 3: back of doing this every year, trying your best every year,

744
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: it wasn't gonna cut it for James Harden. And I

745
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: kind of agree with him a little bit from that

746
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Speaker 3: standpoint where he's like everybody's saying, I just I just

747
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 3: did that. That's exactly what I was supposed to be saying.

748
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Speaker 3: But also, I can't imagine a team wanting to give

749
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Speaker 3: James Harden a four or five year contract at this

750
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: stage of his career, right right it is.

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Speaker 2: I think that fascinating part of that little graft there

752
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 2: is that, yeah, we will have the team option, exactly,

753
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: w have the you know, pull the parachute right in case, Yeah, exactly.

754
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: And that pissed James off apparently. All right, next part here,

755
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 2: this is when sort of Harden was trying to get

756
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: back with the team here recently before the trade to

757
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: the Clippers. Quote the Sixers asked Harden to do his

758
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: training back at their facility in Camden, New Jersey, rather

759
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: than accompany the team to Milwaukee for its regular season opener.

760
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: When he later.

761
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: Showed up at the airport for team flight, security informed

762
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Speaker 2: him he was not on the manifest. That inflamed the

763
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Speaker 2: situation on both sides, sources said, and became what one

764
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: source described as a final straw in the team's efforts

765
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: to reincorporate Harden. The final straw is the manifest James

766
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: Harden's name not on it. To identify how embarrassing that

767
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: must have been for James Harden to show up to

768
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Speaker 2: show up at the private airport.

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Speaker 3: My bag's are ready, exactly. I got my shoes. Those

770
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: guys are right there. I got my giant pants.

771
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: I could see them through the window.

772
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: I could see PJ in the window. Yeah, they said, James,

773
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: you're not on the list. Man.

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00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: We legally, I think it's illegal to allow you on

775
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: this plane. I don't know how serious they take that manifest.

776
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 2: I think they take it quite seriously.

777
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: I don't know the regulations. A lot of skeets, but

778
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 3: it's not like Mark Heith Morris showing up to the

779
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: tarmac and they're being like, sorry, we only got Marcus On.

780
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: You know you're not the same guy, but are you

781
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: You can tell who James Harden is. I think they

782
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: could have squeezed him on if they wanted to. From

783
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: his perspective, surely he's saying, oh, they don't want me around,

784
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: which he didn't want to be around. So he's kind

785
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 3: of forcing their hand here. As we saw when he

786
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: didn't play in Game one, it instantly launched an investigation

787
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: by the league. So I don't know the Sixers. From

788
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: all the reporting, it sounds like the Sixers are trying

789
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: to like really toe the line on stuff. Right. They

790
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: weren't gonna talk to Harden before he was able to

791
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: sign a deal because they didn't want to get dinged

792
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: for tampering. Again, they don't want to get in trouble

793
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: for resting a healthy player with the new PPP, so

794
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 3: they're using a lot of rules and regulations to kind

795
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: of keep him away from the team too. And he

796
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 3: says saying, I'm trying to play here. But also the

797
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: Sixers are like things have not gone poorly yet, but

798
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 3: what happens if you step on the court of a

799
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: real game. Are you just going to completely dog your

800
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: way out of here? Which is I'm sure what the

801
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: worry was, right or injure yourself?

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00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: And then we got yeah, yeah, we have a quote

803
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: unquot damage goods. Yeah, so I guess you could see

804
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: why that was the final straw there, showing up to

805
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: the airplane. As somebody said in the stream team, he

806
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 2: sees PJ on the PJ and they're saying, no, sorry,

807
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: mister Harden. And this is a guy that's used to

808
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: showing up to like I assume clubs, and his name

809
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: is on the list, yeah or not, and he's still

810
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 2: allowed in here.

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Speaker 3: All right, ladies, let's go big night here. But yeah,

812
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: he's like turned away. Nobody wants to go to the

813
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: airport if they don't have to.

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00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, no, yeah, I don't earfits. Yeah, like

815
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: an incredible like just pull up with your own driver,

816
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: still had you had to go out your way to

817
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: get there. Okay, next piece here, this is an interesting

818
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Speaker 2: what if from again Ramona Shelburne's article quote. When disgruntled

819
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Speaker 2: point guard Ben Simmons asked to be traded in the

820
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: summer of twenty twenty one, Maury honed in on Harden

821
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Speaker 2: as the trade target to play alongside a Bead obviously

822
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Speaker 2: what ends up happening prioritizing him over players like Bradley

823
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: Beal or Daron Fox. League sources say, I pulled this

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Speaker 2: because it is a fun It's a fun what if

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00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: that if Maury had targeted a Beal or a Fox

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Speaker 2: instead of ultimately going with James Harden.

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Speaker 3: What do you think? It's definitely interesting. Uh, I don't know,

828
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: how does it make him? Are they better or worse

829
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Speaker 3: with either of those guys? I don't know. I know

830
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: Harden was such a good playmaker for Embeid. The pick

831
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: and roll between those two was one of the most

832
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: efficient plays in the entire league last season, and like

833
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier, it helped get embad to his first MVP,

834
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Speaker 3: which is something he had been gunning for for the

835
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 3: past couple of seasons. I also remember around this time

836
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: that Tyrese Halliburton was a name who was in the

837
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Speaker 3: mix for the seventy six ers, and that one is

838
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: like a big time what if to me, considering he's

839
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: so much younger than Embiid as well and obviously a

840
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: great setup man. I don't know who would I want

841
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 3: to have between James Harden, Beale and Darren Fox, I'm

842
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: probably going Harden. Wow.

843
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, for like just right now one year win a

844
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: championship or obviously moving forward, Fox the youngest of the bunch.

845
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: It would be between Fox and Harden for me.

846
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 2: And still with the pointing out, I guess Bradley Beal

847
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 2: did get injured.

848
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 3: You know during that season two.

849
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: I don't know like the timing of it all and

850
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: how that all lines up, but yeah, I just thought

851
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: it was interesting. It's a big one if if Harden

852
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: is never the trade target and it's another talented guard,

853
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: and how it works alongside Maxi along with embiid.

854
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: Fox and Maxie together, I don't think ye kind of

855
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: similar players. I do agree with that.

856
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Beel to me is the one that's like,

857
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: oh okay, that would have never done man, I know,

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Speaker 2: I know, all right. Next one here quote. This is

859
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 2: from Dorry Dory Maury.

860
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: Just keeps the woman.

861
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, James changed my life. Mary says he's one of

862
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: the all time greats. As time goes on, people will

863
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: think about him in much more historic terms. What he

864
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: did to change the game and change the NBA will

865
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: get recognized more as the Twitter verse and the people

866
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: who don't understand how good he is. Fade away the

867
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: hardened legacy, the nuanced the legacy of James Harden. I

868
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: just you know, we know how Maury feels. Do you

869
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: think he's right? Do you think there's truth to this

870
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 2: or or there's the opposite actually going to be the case,

871
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: and you know the guy is the top seting by

872
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: player of all time. Will people be like, what him really?

873
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: I know we're looking ahead projecting, but what do you

874
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: think nuanced.

875
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 3: Is the right word? And I actually do think Darryl

876
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: Mory is right. When James Harden is finally retired and

877
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: all we see are his highlight clips and look at

878
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: his Basketball Reference page for his statistics, you're gonna be like,

879
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 3: this guy averaged thirty six points a game for an

880
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: entire season. That's incredible. He was there was that one

881
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: month where it was like forty and fifty every single night.

882
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: He got close to winning the MVP. A couple of

883
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: times he won the MVP. They were the closest to

884
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: taking down the Warriors. They had the Warriors almost beat

885
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: when the Warriors were at their absolute peak with Kevin Durant,

886
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: like James Harden has fallen short so many times, that

887
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: it's kind of impossible to think of him as an

888
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 3: all time great player right now when we're seeing the

889
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: way the end of his career is going. We obviously

890
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: know that he doesn't have a ring on his finger.

891
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: If he gets a ring, that probably changes things. Zach

892
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: Low calls him Karl Malona guards.

893
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: So good, it's good, it's pretty good.

894
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: It's good, But I don't know. I feel like another

895
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: player that you can consider hard and similar to is

896
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: Carmelo Anthony, who had a lot of individual success, not

897
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: quite to the level of Harden, but was a score

898
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: and he's getting a lot of more respects since he's

899
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: been retired for a couple of seasons now. I think

900
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: the same will go for Harden because the counting stats

901
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: are just ridiculous.

902
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point when he's removed from the

903
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: game and you are just firing up the Basketball Reference

904
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: and you're just looking at the highlights, which are pretty incredible. Obviously,

905
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 2: especially as sis, you're gonna be like, it's gonna blow

906
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: your mind. Yeah, And he's helped out in the idea

907
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: of like the offensive revolution, too, of the idea of

908
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 2: just shooting a ton of threes, and obviously uh pace

909
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: and all that and even going Small that he played

910
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 2: a part in when he was.

911
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: With Houston, So yeah, I get it.

912
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: But man, does this guy well, a lot of those

913
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 2: guys on the Clippers now Westbrook Harden, Paul, George Kawhi

914
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: has already got a couple. But if they were to

915
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 2: get a ring, and I don't think it's gonna happen

916
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: now with the clips, man, it really does like it

917
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: bumps them up. But in a lot of people's all

918
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: time rankings, like they jump a lot of people.

919
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: Wherever you have them, they.

920
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: Probably jump some other people. So uh yeah, I just

921
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: thought that was fun. We know how Maury feels. This

922
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: guy's got paintings of James Harden all in his house.

923
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: Didn't pull that part. That was like the reels, the

924
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 2: real lead of the story.

925
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was actually happy to see the painting because

926
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: we'd heard about them. Yeah, you know, he's got a painting,

927
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: but you actually can get a look at it, and

928
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: you read Ramona's article.

929
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: That's fairly nice. And I guess he's got he's got

930
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: an embid one too.

931
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: Guy's got an embiid one. Yeah, would you ever have

932
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: a painting like that in your house of you because

933
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: you have a beard.

934
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: You actually have a very similar side profile to James Harden.

935
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: That's absolutely ever heard that. Yeah, I've ever heard that before.

936
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 3: A lot of people call me the white James Harden

937
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: or the gray James Harden. Depending. I thought you would

938
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 3: have to you would have to get like a Kyle

939
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: Lowry painting. Oh oh, you're sad to get your favorite player?

940
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it would be It would

941
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 2: be either Lowry, Steve Nash, Kim Olaijuan or Nick Van Exell.

942
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 2: And it would probably be I know that's a weird list.

943
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it'd be Lowry with the lob probably yeah,

944
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: or Nash because of the Canadian roots.

945
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, who would you go with? Oh, Michael Jordan holding

946
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: the two balls wings. You just buy the poster and

947
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: then paint it, paint over it. I did that.

948
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: I came up with that all right, final piece here,

949
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: it's a wild card. After initially pairing Harden with Dwight

950
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: Howard and Houston, Moury had pivoted to a small ball strategy,

951
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: Moury Ball as it became known, with an extreme focus

952
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: on threes and free throws and a complete abandonment of

953
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: the mid range with Harden as its centerpiece. It was

954
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: wildly successful. A smash hit in it, sorry, a smash

955
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 2: hit in an actual musical Maury produced called small Ball,

956
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: where one of the songs is entitled we Were Small,

957
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: Pass Me the Ball. I butchered reading that. But Ramona

958
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: out of nowhere tax on this idea that Maury was

959
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: involved and produced a musical called small Ball that was,

960
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: you know, somehow based around Moury Ball and on the

961
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: hardened rockets. I'd forgotten about this, that this was musical

962
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen.

963
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: This I did remember. Cory is like a huge Broadway fan.

964
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: I remember it must have been at All Star in Houston.

965
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 3: It's the only thing that makes sense. We ran into him.

966
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: I think I was with Lee at the time. We

967
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: ran into him in the concourses and he was just

968
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: walking around with David Diggs, the guy who became Lafayette

969
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: from Hamilton. They're just like, I'm a producer. He's one

970
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: of the greatest Broadway stars. Hey meet each other and

971
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: the he was like showing up in those NBA commercials

972
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: and stuff. So interesting. Darryl true to the game when

973
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: it comes to Broadway.

974
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: Shay Serrano has reviewed this musical. I found the article

975
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: and Shay wrote small Ball is a great deal of

976
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: fun and also surprisingly funny and also at times surprisingly tender,

977
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: which is remarkable given how weird the show actually ends

978
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: up being. There are sixteen total songs. First twelve occur

979
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: in the first act, four coming in the second. I

980
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: like the preak down there from Shay.

981
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 3: I watched a clip on it. Not for me. I'm

982
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 3: not a musical man, but it is intriguing that there

983
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: is a small Ball musical that Maury produced that I

984
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: guess it only aired or was on the stage in

985
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 3: Houston for au. Okay, yeah, is there like a Laker

986
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: Celtics musical or something like that too? There might be,

987
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: there might be.

988
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: I know people within this small Ball Maury show were, well, somebody,

989
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: the guy, the main person. I guess it is called

990
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. But it's not that Michael Jordan. I guess

991
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: that's the running.

992
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 3: Is it the other Michael Jordan? No, not Michael B. Jordan, No,

993
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: Michael C. Jordan. And there's a Pippin, and there's a bird,

994
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: and there's a magic I'm serious, man, I went down

995
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: a rabbit hole reading about this small Ball of musical

996
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: Give me the music, man, So I like that? Uh?

997
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: I like that. Ramot just slipped this in here.

998
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: We were small, Pass me the ball is a is

999
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: a jam from this Okay?

1000
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 3: Cool? I wonder if it's available on Spotify. I'm not sure.

1001
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 2: I'm not sure anyway, how do you recommend the article

1002
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: from Ramona?

1003
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: A lot of fun? Uh?

1004
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: Breaking down the end of the more Harden era, any

1005
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 2: final thoughts on these two? These two once lovebirds going

1006
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: through a messy divorce.

1007
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 3: It ain't over till it's over, s wow. Saw. At

1008
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: the very end, Darren Moury says, I'm not getting rid

1009
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: of that painting. It's one of my prize possessions. It

1010
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: will hang on my wall for the rest of my days. Okay,

1011
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 3: it's nice. Time pass man. Time may pass. We'll think

1012
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: of James Harden as one of the all time greats

1013
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: and maybe they'll be buddies again. Oh, wouldn't that be nice.

1014
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: It'd be nice.

1015
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: That'd be great.

1016
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: Get over it all right, We're gonna take it one

1017
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: more break when we come back. Tweet the night that

1018
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: involves that Hawk's Wizards game.

1019
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere.

1020
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 2: Just to put a button on the Maury hardened article there.

1021
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: We have a couple people here in the stream team

1022
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: chiming in. Vja writes, don't be sad it's over. Appreciate

1023
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: that it happened, to which Leo responds, I'm happy it's over.

1024
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: Now.

1025
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: Leo's a bit of a curmudget. He might be just

1026
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: happy that whole segment's over. I don't think he was

1027
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: happy for the start of it.

1028
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: Leo's one of the number one haters out there.

1029
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, absolutely so. Anyway, I just like the contradiction

1030
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: there between two comments. Let's get to tweeted the night.

1031
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: Tweet O the night Wow tweet of the night. It's me,

1032
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 3: It's me. I'm the one who's reading out about that part.

1033
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: It comes from Dragonfly Jones, who tweeted last Night a

1034
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: few weeks into the fifteen sixteen season, I knew Golden

1035
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: State was winning seventy three. It may sound like a

1036
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 3: spurious claim skeets, but he was posting receipts who day

1037
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: November of that season say it. I knew. I knew

1038
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: early on we were witnessing something special. I feel the

1039
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: same way about this Wizard squad. But on the opposite

1040
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 3: end of the spectrum. They could very well be the

1041
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 3: most unserious team of all time. The potential is there.

1042
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: This came as a quote tweet to the Hood Therapist,

1043
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: who had a clip of Jordan Poole throwing Kyle Kuzma

1044
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: and alleoop off the glass while the Wizards were down

1045
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: twenty one in the second half. This was ball. They

1046
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: were like, probably gonna be my third pick Skeets for

1047
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 3: our Best Games draft last night, specifically because of the

1048
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 3: Alley oop off the glass. Down twenty in the second half,

1049
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 3: this was amazing. One hundred and thirty points for the

1050
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 3: Hawks last night. That's a season high for them so

1051
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 3: far this season. The Wizards lost to the Pacers. On

1052
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 3: Opening night, Indiana scored a season high hundred and forty

1053
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 3: three points. Yep, they beat the Grizzlies. The Wizards did well.

1054
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 3: Everybody has only gave up one hundred and six not bad.

1055
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: Then Washington lost to the Celtics. Boston scored one hundred

1056
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: and twenty six points, which up until last night was

1057
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: their season high. A lot of season highs going against

1058
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 3: the Wizards this season, I do believe.

1059
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you think Dragonfly Jones is right here?

1060
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: Like we could be something we could be seeing something legendary.

1061
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: When it comes to the Washington Wizards twenty twenty three,

1062
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen.

1063
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 3: I think it's possible. What's the worst record we we have,

1064
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: like nine wins? Was that the Bobcats. Did they win

1065
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 3: nine games? Well, they didn't.

1066
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: Didn't they win even there was the shortened season the

1067
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: one year.

1068
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a sixty six games.

1069
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: Still the Sixers still record.

1070
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know. They could definitely challenge And

1071
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: I will say right now, they're only twenty eighth in defense,

1072
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 3: So let's start with that, which is better than the Bucks,

1073
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 3: which is just odd to see, better than the Pacers

1074
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Speaker 3: who gave up a ton of points against the Celtics

1075
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 3: last night. Currently, Washington has the seventh worst defense of

1076
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: all time. Those two teams are obviously worse than them

1077
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: right now. So the Bucks worst defense in league history,

1078
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 3: and then San Antonio, Houston, Detroit and Portland last season.

1079
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 3: There's a chance that they could end at the very

1080
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 3: worst defense in NBA history this season. But the good

1081
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 3: thing is is they are going to be approaching Javaial

1082
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 3: McGee levels of Shackton a Pool. I think this year

1083
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 3: they called it shackton a Pool. This past week because

1084
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 3: they did a super cut of Jordan Poole low lights

1085
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 3: from the first week of the season, celebrating a miss

1086
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: three from the corner, the walk back and get blocked

1087
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: by Chris DAPs Porzingis. There was just another weird turnover,

1088
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 3: which I kind of thought was piling on at that point.

1089
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: But unfortunately for the Wizards, it feels a little bit

1090
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: like they're back in the knucklehead arrow right now.

1091
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1092
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to confirm, Charlotte Bobcats twenty twelve, seven and

1093
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: fifty nine.

1094
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 3: Good, that was the record.

1095
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: That's the worst losing percentage of all time. But in

1096
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: an eighty two game season, it's the seventy three seventy

1097
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: six Ers nine and seventy three. We also have the

1098
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen Philadelphia seventy six ers who went ten and

1099
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: seventy two, the opposite of those iconic Bulls teams. And

1100
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: then you know the MAVs in ninety three, eleven and

1101
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: seventy one.

1102
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: The way gets in ninety eight.

1103
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: I don't remember that eleven and seventy one. Remember the

1104
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: ninety eight Nuggets going eleven and seventy one. I got

1105
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: to still, I really don't remember that anyway. Yeah, it's

1106
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: the Bobcats and and really the Sixers if we're going

1107
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 2: eighty two games.

1108
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: Of course, Bryant Stiff was around. Name one other player

1109
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 3: on the Denver Nuggets from nineteen ninety eight. You can do.

1110
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 3: You can just dice there. No mcdce yet, but probably

1111
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 3: Pack he's not still there, Robert isn't there, but maybe another.

1112
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: Notable Lafondo ellis there.

1113
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: You go, That's who I was thinking. Okay, well, excise

1114
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: me else you know, Keiwan Garris, Illinois. Boy, I've never

1115
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: heard of that name. Yeah. Oh, Bobby Jackson, rookie Bobby Jackson,

1116
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: priest Lauderdale, biggest shorts in NBA history. I don't know

1117
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 3: if that's true, but I felt like it. Joe Wolf,

1118
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: these are some names, Tony. They had to t and

1119
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 3: Bobby Jackson and only won eleven games. That's ridiculous. That

1120
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 3: is unbelievable.

1121
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Speaker 2: All right, let's call it there, guys. Thanks for joining

1122
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Speaker 2: us here today. If you're a Survivor fan, we got

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Speaker 2: down an incredible episode, episode six of Survivor forty five

1126
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1130
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1131
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Speaker 2: we will look forward to seeing you at ten am Eastern.

1132
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Speaker 2: Enjoy the games tonight.

1133
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Speaker 3: Until then, Clipper Bros. You heard it here first, have

1134
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Speaker 3: a great time, turn up. Love you guys awesome. Thanks

1135
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Speaker 3: for joining us, and remember Skeets who was the leading

1136
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 3: scorer on the nineteen ninety three Dallas Mavericks Jamal Mashburn.

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Speaker 3: No he was gone, but you hear