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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. What is there to do?

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Speaker 2: There's nothing to do. This team just had their golden

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Speaker 2: pretty good team who looks like a much worse team

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Speaker 2: and then you walk into Washington, I guess, one of

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Speaker 2: a fucking egg, such an egg, such a bad, horrible

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Speaker 2: series by these Mets pitching, hitting, bullpen. There's no one

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Speaker 1: It's pretty funny that the one game that Eric Shavs

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Speaker 1: it's pretty funny, pretty ironic that when Eric Chavez is

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Speaker 1: just it's bad, guys, It's bad. I was so back

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Speaker 1: He can't be on this team anymore. He's horrible. He's

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Speaker 1: you've mentioned time and time again. He hits like seventy

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Speaker 2: This is a take that one of my friends sends

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Speaker 2: But sure you remember that comment that Mendoza and I

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Speaker 3: But this game was more similar to how.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty impossible, especially like even if Manyah was

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Speaker 2: Baby the bad game on Thursday, but it was like

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Speaker 2: everyone in the office had their spots. Yes, this was

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Speaker 1: It's just it's crazy that it feels like every single

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Speaker 2: And this is that anti of what this Mets team

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: And so it also gets to a point where if

434
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Speaker 2: if the Mets do wind up blowing this, I think

435
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Speaker 2: it's probably still sixty forty that we get into the playoffs.

436
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Speaker 2: Don't expect anything to happen when we do get there.

437
00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,679
Speaker 2: The sixty four that we do get there to avoid

438
00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,200
Speaker 2: just embarrassment. But if you do missing, you do get

439
00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,680
Speaker 2: caught from behind by the Cincinnati Reds from the lowest

440
00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,840
Speaker 2: payrolls in the National League, like just a good, good

441
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Speaker 2: young rotation and like three and a half four could

442
00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,159
Speaker 2: hitters in the lineup with when your star player is

443
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Speaker 2: projected to have a higher net worth at the end

444
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Speaker 2: of his current contract and the owner of that other team,

445
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,120
Speaker 2: that's that's a major major organizational failure and bottom line,

446
00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,920
Speaker 2: just in embarrassment if they if your word to get

447
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:07,720
Speaker 2: caught in the situation.

448
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those things where I understand why

449
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000
Speaker 1: Mets fans are calling for Sturne. I think we've said this.

450
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Speaker 1: We understand why that fan would. We're not a part

451
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Speaker 1: of that fan base. But if the Mets missed the playoff,

452
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Speaker 1: Carls Mendoz is not here. There's no doubt he's gone.

453
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Speaker 2: I think, no matter what, he gets one more year.

454
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Speaker 2: Think so, yeah, I think if they miss I think

455
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Speaker 2: they would.

456
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Speaker 3: Have to end the season like below five hundred.

457
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Speaker 1: Okay, well that's not happened.

458
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying I think that I think it would

459
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Speaker 3: need to be.

460
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Speaker 2: I think what this becomes is like a partial cleaning

461
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Speaker 2: house of the coaches and then next year maybe I

462
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Speaker 2: think you.

463
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Speaker 3: Think next year this is like next year is a mandate.

464
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Speaker 1: You think this is like a no more like John Gibbons,

465
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Speaker 1: no more Mike's Arball, no more of those guys than

466
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Speaker 1: they keep Mendoza after for one more year kind of thing.

467
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

468
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Speaker 2: I really don't think that unless they unless you win

469
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Speaker 2: like no games the rest of the season, that they

470
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Speaker 2: don't bring Mendoza back. Sorry, unless the chob is you

471
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Speaker 2: are the next manager of the Arizona Diamondbacks. Unless there's

472
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Speaker 2: just horrible, horrible views from players in the clubhouse like

473
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Speaker 2: this could change. If there's comments from star players like

474
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Speaker 2: of course but I do. I don't foresee that. Honestly,

475
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Speaker 2: I don't only think anything can happen to this points

476
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Speaker 2: in Carols will not.

477
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Speaker 3: Be here next time.

478
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Speaker 1: I've got a crazy Bowl take go. I think by

479
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 1: the end of the when the season ends, I think

480
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna get some crazy sound bites and some crazy

481
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Speaker 1: stories that are gonna.

482
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Speaker 3: Come out, Like what give me an example.

483
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Speaker 1: Like about like how pissed off people were, like how

484
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Speaker 1: there was dysfunction. That's what I'm gonna say. I think

485
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 1: there's gonna be dysfunction inside the clubhouse in terms of leadership.

486
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Speaker 1: That's gonna come out.

487
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Speaker 3: And then where does that get solved?

488
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Speaker 2: Like that count solved with the veteran managers, That gets

489
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Speaker 2: solved with the new player at the top, because we're.

490
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Speaker 1: On the spot now out here to fix them find

491
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Speaker 1: those answers.

492
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Speaker 2: I think I mentioned this two episodes ago, where like

493
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Speaker 2: we've had this basic core now for five five years,

494
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Speaker 2: five seasons twenty three, twenty four now twenty five with

495
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,919
Speaker 2: Lindor Nemo Alonzo, and in four of those five seasons

496
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Speaker 2: at some point there was just like a total dissolution

497
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 2: of not accountability, but momentum is just everything just seemed

498
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 2: to stop and stall, and it seemed like you're just

499
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Speaker 2: there were a lot of times or looking for answers.

500
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 2: And while we still believe in those guys as players,

501
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 2: for sure, there probably is some kind of personality dynamic

502
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 2: between all of them and the other players. Especially adding

503
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 2: another guy like Wan Solo is not exactly like a

504
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 2: Rah rah Leider guy. He's another one of these lead

505
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 2: by example guys. He's not exactly I mean, I think

506
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 2: he keeps things loose, but I think I think Wan

507
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 2: Solo he probably still is also growing into this. He's

508
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 2: still he's still so incredibly young. But it's just there's

509
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 2: not even Starling Marte. They said his two episodes ago,

510
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 2: like as the team uncle. He's another not a raw

511
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 2: rack guy. He's not exactly like you know, getting dirty

512
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 2: every single game. Like he's not like one of these

513
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,400
Speaker 2: like he's not a crazy leader like that. Like there's

514
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,119
Speaker 2: something this team just hasn't really had. And now many

515
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 2: of these seasons there's been a just you just fall

516
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Speaker 2: apart in the middle of it, and that's something that

517
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 2: has to be taken into consideration.

518
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's bad, it's.

519
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 1: Really really bad. I don't even I don't even know

520
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 1: what to say. This is like one of the few

521
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: times I feel kind of speechless because we've been doing

522
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 1: this for so it's been an episode after episode after episode.

523
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Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna get a streaky days with

524
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: that before Workplace Injury zero. We're back to zero again

525
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 1: because it's just the the that that was a despicably

526
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 1: bad series to lose, No horrible.

527
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Speaker 2: I mean this, this Nationals ballpen going into is basically

528
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: the worst and all baseball. And you get you get

529
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Speaker 2: eight innings against them in two games. You get two hits.

530
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Speaker 2: One's an infield single and one's a two out single

531
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Speaker 2: down by six by Francisco Lindorf.

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Speaker 3: It's just like, you.

533
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: Can't that literally can't happen against a team like this,

534
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 2: especially in both of those games. You had shots to

535
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Speaker 2: get yourself back into it. Like the not tying the

536
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: game on that big rally on Wednesday was just like, damn, guys,

537
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,719
Speaker 2: come on, It's like, what are we doing here? Like

538
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 2: that was such a golden opportunity, a golden moment to

539
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Speaker 2: do that.

540
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Speaker 1: As you're hitting the ball so well.

541
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Speaker 2: As you're you're smacking it left and right, and it's

542
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Speaker 2: just like there's something stuck and even in the game

543
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Speaker 2: on Thursday winning was that.

544
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Speaker 3: I want to think of the name of.

545
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 1: James base I might be blaming you. They smoked the

546
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: starting pitching and all the games pretty yeah, sure, and

547
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: you just start breaking down relievers. That's the problem, That's

548
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,479
Speaker 1: what it is. They didn't get the reliever stuff.

549
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, the fourth inning, you got Basis Low

550
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: the one out against Mackenzie Gordon. He's losing everything. And

551
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: I understand that you are kind of stuck with Hayden

552
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: Sanger in the ninth spot, like you definitely felt the

553
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 2: loss of Francisco Alvarez multiple times in this year. Productive

554
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 2: out though it was productive out, but just you have

555
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Speaker 2: Basis load nobody out.

556
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Speaker 3: It could be nice to not make it out.

557
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 2: And again like Cedric Malls hit the singles, just not

558
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: in the spot where you could score a run like that,

559
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: that does suck. But like Tyron Taylor has a good

560
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 2: at bat to draw a walk, like I'm not saying anything.

561
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: Is like, I'm not blaming anybody for that. And Francisco

562
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 2: Lindor the rope down the line that there was too good.

563
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: That was Brady House me to go play bathroom. Andrew

564
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 2: Shaparachak tagged him out. So it's just like, this isn't

565
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: me casting blame. It's just saying, like Basis, blow the

566
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: one out when you already have a team down to nothing,

567
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: like that's a moment where you could just kill him.

568
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 2: And we couldn't even get close to blowing this game

569
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Speaker 2: open when we had multiple opportunities to do so.

570
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, something's as we've been saying for months,

571
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Speaker 1: something's got a change. I'm waiting for the change yet

572
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: to see it.

573
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Speaker 2: It's about to be fucking September. You know, we have

574
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 2: college football this weekend and nothing is changing here.

575
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Speaker 1: You guys want us to start talking about college football

576
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: on the podcast again, and I know you really love

577
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: that what we did in a lot in twenty twenty three,

578
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Speaker 1: because it's so bad.

579
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Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. Want talk about baseball,

580
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: want to talk about plaoff races. I want to not

581
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: stop talking about ball. And it's just his team's ball

582
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: is turbo ass.

583
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: It seems like also like that. Well I know it didn't. Honestly,

584
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: the Albaz injury took the wins out of my sales

585
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: for sure, because he willn't think their sales. No, I

586
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: was gonna say. I That's why I went like ah,

587
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: because I wanted to adjust it because, like for me,

588
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: that was devastating when we got the official official news

589
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: that he's out. He's gonna miss the year basically because

590
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: the game. You got the game on Tuesday, and David

591
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: Peterson's incredible. Maybe maybe this is a good time to

592
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: put in the Nolan McLain sound clip real quick, because

593
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: the Mets sounded like they were partying behind him in

594
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: the background of this, and I texted you, I'm like, damn,

595
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: like things feel good. Mets went out, scored a ship,

596
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: Tonner runs and then just that soundclips from Wednesday. Oh

597
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: but just after the game on Tuesday, as they should

598
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Speaker 1: have been filmed.

599
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 3: That three game wins.

600
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Speaker 1: Streak clearly didn't matter.

601
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: I guess just Bob, Jake Irvin and like day again,

602
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: David Pearson. I think David Peterson thrives on my negativity

603
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 2: of David Peterson because the fact I forgot to mention

604
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Speaker 2: him in the Met's most stressed to start is in

605
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Speaker 2: the Sundawn in the Sun episode Monday episode. He comes

606
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 2: out and has the second best start of his career

607
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: when the best star was he's incredible. If this team

608
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: would be under five, hey, despise this, he would be

609
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: under five hundred without him, literally and again in that

610
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: in that game on Tuesday, just Pete was the only

611
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: guy that getting hit.

612
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: Again is that bat's really bad?

613
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Speaker 3: It's really really bad.

614
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: Well you did you? Did you notice what Pete was

615
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: trying to do all fucking series? Tell me hit the

616
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: ball to opposite field? Why why pulled the bait? You

617
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: know who pulled the baseball this series?

618
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeahanasos played well, and Francisco Lindor pulled the baseball.

619
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Speaker 1: And Francisco Lindor played well. I understand, I understand that

620
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: you can't pull every pitch. I understand that. Blah blah

621
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But Pete had a three to zero

622
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: count and tried to hit the ball to right field

623
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Speaker 1: on a high and away Pitchers like, dude, that's not

624
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: the fucking pitch for you. Man, Like, how how many

625
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: times we have to tell you, old man? Figure it out?

626
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 5: No?

627
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Speaker 2: It is frustrating. How good, how good we felt after

628
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 2: that game on Tuesday, You really felt like you were

629
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: about to go on a run. And then the momentum

630
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: did end with sank. It just kind of just shit

631
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: himself in that third fourth inning, like it was so bad,

632
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 2: like Alidoff walked to Dylan Cruz and also the catcher's

633
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: interference in the middle of it, and Luis Trenz got

634
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: smack in the hands.

635
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 3: It's just like, oh, there's.

636
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: So many catchers interferences. We never get one from our side.

637
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: I think we've gotten a handful of this year.

638
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 2: But just it was not you get to start that

639
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: third ending. I mean, I mean, I'm just really going

640
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: micro cossims, microcosms. You get Dylan Cruz down again. Dylan

641
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: Cruiz I think will be a great player, not a

642
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: great majorlegue career to this point. That was some injuries

643
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 2: and inconsistencies.

644
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: Good against the Mets.

645
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 3: I think he's a good player.

646
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: You get the guy down oh two and it's just

647
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: you miss badly with two fork balls on one was

648
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: just a good take by him, and then he clearly

649
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 2: just didn't want to walk. Dylan Cruise with threw two

650
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: fastballs two two and three two, and he missed with both.

651
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, that's how you know that he

652
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: doesn't really have it. When they know the spit on

653
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 2: that forkball and he cannot place the fastballs that that

654
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: I don't know.

655
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: I hate that.

656
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 2: We were really on the money with how we talked

657
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: about Sayga this offseason, and even though he was really

658
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: good through most of the first half that LOWI alra

659
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: It's still just felt kind of fake the whole time.

660
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: Because everybody was on base. You saw the stat that

661
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: they flashed, like that was the first multi hit inning

662
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: with runners in scoring position that sank has had like

663
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: basically since his debut, And you're like, it's insane because

664
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: runners of scoring position every single game.

665
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: No, And it's just if you can't you can't execue

666
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: those pitches early in the count. And again like he

667
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: was getting ahead in this game, Like I think they

668
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: felt like he wasn't getting ahead, but he was. It

669
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 2: was just not it was the middle that was killing him. Yeah,

670
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: you couldn't even you kind of you worry about pitchers

671
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: and they can't kill hitters. Once they get the strike

672
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: two can't put them away. Sanka struggled to get to

673
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: strike too, Like it was just I don't know, every

674
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: single time he threw a pitch, I.

675
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: Was like, I don't know, way this one's going. Yeah,

676
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: it was uh bad, it was bad, and it doesn't

677
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: help that the bullpen also just shit to bed. I mean,

678
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 1: Tyler Rodgers giving up a fucking piece to Riley Adams

679
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: up the middle, Like great play by Pete to cut

680
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 1: up on that cutoff there, cutting across, throwing the ball

681
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 1: the third getting out of the inning. Yeah, but like

682
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: fuck man, Riley Adams piecing it up like that, Like

683
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: Tyler Rodgers, I still like, still still trust him, of course,

684
00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: but he had he is giving.

685
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 3: Up a lot of runs now, it is.

686
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: There was There was also the thought where like you

687
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: bring in a guy with the bases loaded, it's still

688
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: I think he left men eye out there like every

689
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: single start two about two three batters too long, bass

690
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: is loaded like that, Tyler Rodgers strikes out like fifteen

691
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: percent of the batters he faces. Like, I don't know,

692
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: there's not really another I don't really want to bring

693
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: in someone else who's going to walk a guy because

694
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: I know a LEAs Tyler Rodgers.

695
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 3: I think that strikes came in.

696
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: Was they wanted strikes?

697
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: I think so too.

698
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: I think that it's just it was a kind of

699
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: situation where almost any button them in those pressed was

700
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: going to be wrong.

701
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that matter of house has felt. Yeah, it's just

702
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, that sucked. Ryan Stanick again, get ready

703
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: to learn Chinese or Japanese or Korean.

704
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 4: I don't think.

705
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't think he is on this. I don't think

706
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: he makes the flight to Atlanta. I would be shocked.

707
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: He's got he through forty pitches in this one, so

708
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,239
Speaker 1: there's yeah, it's not like he can even pitch this

709
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: weekend and he's got nothing. It's been happening for four

710
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: months now, like he's just been cooked. And then just Jackson, Rutledge,

711
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: Clayton be There, PJ Pooling, Cal Henry, two of good relievers.

712
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: Cal Henry threw a fat pitch to Baby that with

713
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: a man on base that Keith was not was not

714
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: that happy about. And it's just there is and he's

715
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: been great again, Like we I hate focusing on these

716
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: like little micro events for all of these players because

717
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: I think overall some of these bottom of the roster

718
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: guys have been fine. Like same with that Cedric Mallins

719
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: not getting the sack fly in the game Wednesday, I

720
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: wish you would gotten the fucking sack fly, but like

721
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: hate him right now. I don't know why they hate

722
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: him so much. He's still objective. The plays pretty good baseball.

723
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 2: It's just that that was a bad situation though, where

724
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: like if you get that sack fly, you do change

725
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: the entire game.

726
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: Not being able to get that sucks.

727
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: I know this team, this team cannot get the big

728
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: hit right now, can't do it. That's again. They are

729
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: the only team in Major League Baseball who has not

730
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: won a game losing going into the ninth inning. They have.

731
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: They're the only team they have not come back in

732
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: the ninth inning this year. That is impossible. The Rockies

733
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: did like three times in a week. They suck.

734
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: Maybe that users due for like two of them in September.

735
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: They actually actually drag ourselves to the playoffs and get

736
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: pissed a whip by the Phillies in the wildcard run. O.

737
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: God, all right, we need to do our Draft Kings

738
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: player spotlight. Let's go ahead and talk about Nolan McLain again.

739
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, we gotta talk about Nolan McLain.

740
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: Making a second start, going up against the Atlanta Braves,

741
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: who have been pretty hot.

742
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: Michael Harris has been the hottest hitter. It feels like

743
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: ever he's he's completely saved his season numbers where he's

744
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: gonna end up being completely acceptable after being one of

745
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: the worst offensive players we'd ever seen in the sample size.

746
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: The Braves are hitting the baseball. They might not be

747
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: playing good baseball, and that's mostly because they're pitching. But

748
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: Nolan McLay just gonna be a good test for him.

749
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: A lot of professional hitters in this lineup.

750
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: A lot of professional hitters. A bit of a break

751
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: that against this braz lineup, he's going to get more righties. Yes,

752
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: Like the Braves are not as much as a platoon team.

753
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: The Braves are much more. These are our guys. They

754
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: play every day team. And Matt Olson's dealing with something.

755
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: It was like a tower finger, So I think there

756
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: was a questionable tag on him for the weekend. But

757
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: he's going to face Ronald Acunya. I'm excited to see

758
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: McClain vs.

759
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: Cunya. I think Akunya.

760
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna Saycuney is a guy who's great against

761
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: breaking ball, it's just great against everything. Yeah, that'll be

762
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: a good thing. I get Michael Harris on fire. Ozzie

763
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: Obvious to be a tough lefty. The combinature, Drake Baldwin

764
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: and Sean Murphy's a very solid catching tands up. Jarson roar, Yeah,

765
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: Marcelo Zuna the bad man. Have you seen Jackson profar

766
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: how well he's heading. Yeah, I mean he's he's a

767
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: good player.

768
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's just this is this is a professional line.

769
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: And then the Braves are playing somewhat inspired baseball of late,

770
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: Like I think they've got it together late, even though

771
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: all their pitchers are still injured. I'm so happy we're

772
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: missing Herston Walld repping this in this series, because the

773
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: guy's on hittable right now. But I'm excited to see

774
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: what Nolan mclin can do. I'm excited to see how

775
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: he can leverage in using those breaking balls. I'm excited

776
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: to see whether or not he finds more consistency with

777
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: his fast balls, whether or not he breaks.

778
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: Out a color or change ups. More so in that first.

779
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: Start, because I do think that just going sweep or

780
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: curveball so often could get him into trouble. It's still

781
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: might work, but it puts a lot in his command,

782
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: which you know, isn't that good anyway.

783
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just really excited to see what happens again

784
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: when there's there's there's gonna be a little pressure on him.

785
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: There's pressure again in the Seattle starts National game. Yeah,

786
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: like pressure on the Seattle start. He stepped up. I'm

787
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: interested to see what he does again in another game

788
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: that the Mets have to have, like every game the

789
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: rest of the year, Mets have to have.

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00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: Will you think the outs over and there's going to

791
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: be for mclin I think it's gonna be fifteen point five, Okay,

792
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna I was thinking fourteen point five.

793
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be right around where he ended

794
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: up last start, which I think he got sixteen outs

795
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: because he got he went five and a third, right, yes,

796
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: so I think it's like fifteen point five two point five.

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00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: He went two thirds, okay, two thirds, which that makes

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00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: me feel even more good about the fifteen point five

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00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: is that this is on the road though, so not

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Speaker 1: a home. It's a little bit different righty's than lefties.

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00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: We'll see, I think regardless, I am still taking the

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00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: over until I see Noel McLain not be a dog

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00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: on the mound. I'm gonna keep believing in this guy.

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00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: I'm with you there, and I think even in terms

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00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: of strikeouts, like a five and a half is a

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00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: fun one to play.

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Speaker 3: That'd be a juicy bet.

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Speaker 2: If they push it the six and a half, you'll

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00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: probably get a plus like one thirty on it. But

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Speaker 2: I think i'd almost rather like hit the alternate strikeout

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Speaker 2: line and.

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Speaker 1: Go up to like an eight.

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00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, which he just did.

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Speaker 1: Do we have anything else to talk about here before

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Speaker 1: we go into a real series preview with the Braves?

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00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: And it's I shouldn't even say a real one because

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00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: we just saw them. It's just covering the pitching matchups

834
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: and making sure the Mets hitters know what's going to

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Speaker 1: be pitched to them.

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00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm ready to do a little series

837
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: preview here. I'm trying to get the updated pitching matchups

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00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: because I don't know, I saw them. The Braves pushbacks

839
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: better to stryither, so we'll have to see the big

840
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: beat Mets again.

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00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: Friday is name some of their pitchers in their rotation real.

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00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: Quick, FETHI Wentz, Oh, we're gettingtrol So it's Wentz Friday,

843
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: It's Quantrill Saturday.

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00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: This feels so weird for me to say this, and

845
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: it's Elder on Sunday. Yes, I just And in case

846
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: you guys didn't see Bryce Elder who got his ELR

847
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: below six after he started against the Mets right back

848
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: up to six because the guy fucking stinks. He got

849
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: pelted by the White Sox, but also by the White

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00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: Sox for the Mets.

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Speaker 2: In this series again Friday night, just so you guys know,

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00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: Apple TV game seven to fifteen, Nolan McClain versus Joey Wentz.

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00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: Saturday seven to fifteen, Clay Holmes was Eric Fetti. And

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00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: then Sunday one thirty five, no, Eric Fetty, Oh right, yeah,

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00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: Quantrill And then Sunday one thirty five David Peterson against

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00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: That was Bryce Elder.

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00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: That was Bryce Elder, Yes, yes, Wentz Quantrell Elder, Quantrell,

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00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: your boy. No, I mean the Marlins got rid of him.

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00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: They're like no good and the Raiders are like free pitching.

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Speaker 1: We'll take it.

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00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, But it's just in terms of I think

862
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: we talk about McLain first again, here's listeners, great sound

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Speaker 2: about you guys from shout Out my guy Tim the

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Speaker 2: Nats Chat podcast was in the clubhouse on Wednesday. Good

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Speaker 2: little piece from Nolan McLain here, interesting one to hear,

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Speaker 2: how big, how much exciting Spanish music was playing in

867
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: the Mets club Baskebah and they were probably feeling good before

868
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: that game on Wednesday. And two just the fact that

869
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: again it was a strange thing pretty unexpected that McLain

870
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 2: never really used that curveball this year in the minor

871
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: leagues and then found it and kind of just saying

872
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: that the game called for it. So I do wonder

873
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: if this is just something that we're going to see

874
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: him do against the lefties, because it was all he

875
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: barely used that curveball against the righties, which is funny.

876
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: That kind of funny because it does have a similar

877
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: horizontal moving pattern to a sweeper, but it was that

878
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: in the sweeper kind of for like sixty percent of

879
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: his pitches against the lefties, which I think he will

880
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: keep that up. I just think that it's going to

881
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: take a lot of work to keep that up. Command

882
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: wise with the fastball, yes, especially because you've the way

883
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 2: that those pitches really worked too when you're going against

884
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: the opposite side.

885
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: We're going against the lefty, got to be able to

886
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: tunnel them. So if you can get that fastball command

887
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: and make those pitches look the same, that's where you

888
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: see the Noel McLain eight strikeouts, five ins.

889
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: Totally because there's not a lot of weird enough, there's

890
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: not really a lot of differentiation on those two pitches

891
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: because again, like I said, it's like just enough differentiation

892
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: where it really can fool the bather. But you have

893
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: to be really concerned about especially him talking about how

894
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: he wanted to make sure he was finishing those pitches, yes,

895
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: getting them to the glove side, because if that sweeper

896
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: does float on him, that kind of hurts that curveball

897
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 2: because you want those pitches to think that they're coming

898
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: into you, especially for the lefties, and you need that

899
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: curveball to fall down. It's again, it's weird though there's

900
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: not a lot of other pictures that pitch like this.

901
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure the braves all about this now, So.

902
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: Is it Wheeler kind of like this in a way.

903
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: He is obviously a way better fastball, but aren't the

904
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: breaking because he uses the slider curveball, but he uses.

905
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: So much splither.

906
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: That's true.

907
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it doesn't really I guess it's no older will.

908
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

909
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: Before the splitther, I think again we talked about. I

910
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: think Sonny Gray as a guy that does this a bit.

911
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: Burns doesn't really do these. He has tried to bring

912
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: that curveball sweeper in more, but again splither, I think

913
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: Sony Gray is someone who does this somewhat. He is

914
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: the Sonny Gray is the comp He's the main comp here,

915
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 2: but Sonny Gray also gets more cut action.

916
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: He uses a color and he gets a.

917
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 2: Lot more cut action on the for seen fastball when

918
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: McLain gets to fade on the forescen fastball to the

919
00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 2: arm side.

920
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: So again it's Tony Gray.

921
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: Does something similarly with those two breaking balls against the

922
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: lefties where he kind of tummins was a sweeping the

923
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: curb on top of each other where it's like you

924
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: don't know which one's coming, but they're both gonna be nasty.

925
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 2: He's just so good spin like McLean. Is McLain also

926
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: one hundred Braves fan?

927
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without a doubt.

928
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: North North Carolina boy.

929
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: I think he talked about Viking watching who he said

930
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: the other day growing up, It wasn't he said, someone

931
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: that made me feel so fucking.

932
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: Old, Tommy Tommy Hansen. Did you throw that name out there?

933
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: It was one of them, was utly for sure, and

934
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: then it was and then he mentioned a Braves guy

935
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: said utterly, He said, utly, this.

936
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: Is one of the worst days of twenty twenty five.

937
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's our guy Now's our guy now. But

938
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: in terms of what we're gonna see from this Braves

939
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: team again. They took two at three months. Ronald the

940
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: Cooey didn't even play, so that's one thing. Austin Rowley

941
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: didn't play. There's also not going to play. They just

942
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: now he's actually going to be on for the season

943
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: when there was weirdly optimism beginning the week he come back,

944
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: which never made any sense to me. Yeah, but yeah,

945
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: definitely a smart move. But it's just you gotta this

946
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: is the house of Harris for the Mets. They just

947
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: took two or three from us in our house. This

948
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 2: is the kind of This is the kind of series

949
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: that if Slash Winner goes poorly, this is like the

950
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: final wake up call. This is like, holy shit, we

951
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: just got crushed by the Braves. Now we're playing the

952
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: Phillies at home by the end of this week, and

953
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: you're probably not even in a playoff spot anymore. Like

954
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: this is absolutely the definition of put up a shut

955
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: up time.

956
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: I need to sweep. I would like to win too,

957
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get greedy. I need to sweep. I think

958
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: I think maybe you know, let's need a little little juice.

959
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: We need to sweep.

960
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: It's also it's amazing how the scheduling guys have helped

961
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: us here, because the Reds are weirdly on a West

962
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: coast road trip right now at the end of August.

963
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: They did just take two others from the Angels.

964
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 3: Thankfully. The Angels won the clutch clutch game on Wednesday.

965
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: Did you see how?

966
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

967
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 3: I was locked in. I watched out the whole thing.

968
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: Bryce Tao Tayo Dozio what I don't I don't know

969
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: what fucking guy is, but like he laid down a bunch.

970
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: It was called for a hit, but it actually hit

971
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: off of his knee when he was in the box,

972
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: So you got back back hit a double wild pitch,

973
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: still a third scored, and and then the Angels win.

974
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, the baseball guys are trying, They're

975
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: really really trying.

976
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: Totally and even Kenny Jansen blew a saved and I

977
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: was injured on Tuesday, So the Angels were very close

978
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: to winning that series over the Reds. But heading to

979
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: the rest of the season, just by strength of schedule

980
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 2: based on the opponent's win percentages, the Reds have the

981
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 2: second hardest schedule in the league.

982
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: That's got the first Met's have the third. Ooh okay, yes,

983
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: slight advantage.

984
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: Slight advantage, not really, because we have to play them

985
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: for three games and we're worse. We're worse than our

986
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 2: records as we are.

987
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: Man if that, if that is a close series, you

988
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: have to go to Cincinnati.

989
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: I'm not going to SINCINNTI that weekend. Why, I just

990
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: don't want to.

991
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: I just this guy's all Ohio until it matters.

992
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah I am, but again exactly, the.

993
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State doesn't got a game that weekend.

994
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: They might, but we're gonna be Cincinnati. It's two hours away.

995
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: It doesn't help.

996
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: It's enough.

997
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: I could double up, but I just last series also

998
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: coming up. But we're like two weeks away. But we

999
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: have we we got before games back by the time

1000
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 2: that series comes be over.

1001
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 3: Let's be real like this. It's we got braves and

1002
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: Phillies right now.

1003
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: Like we circle this the beginning of the season for

1004
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: very different reasons, and we're focusing on now beginning the season.

1005
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 2: We're like, all right, gott win those games, playself spot

1006
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: the division now. So we have to hang on and

1007
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 2: win those games if we want to have a shot

1008
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Yeah, it's bad off it's so bad right

1009
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: now and against just I don't know, quickly break down

1010
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 2: these brave starters.

1011
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: So Kyle Quantrell, you're just gonna get a bunch of colors.

1012
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: Just hit him.

1013
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: He's gonna try splitter still, yeah, thrust spoiler still. He

1014
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: cale ConTroll does like two lines of pitch movement. One

1015
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: that like moves a little bit to his gloves side

1016
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: where it's a color a slider, a curveball, and then

1017
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: his arm side's got the fastball the two seam and

1018
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: then split the But it's just like his command's been bad.

1019
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: His velocity is down around ninety three. He says, he

1020
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta fucking hit this guy. Joey Wentz has

1021
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: been interesting. He's kind of come back alive this season

1022
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: as he's come to the Braves. I don't know if

1023
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: you've paid attention to Joey Wentz. He's got a couple

1024
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: a couple more poor starts recently. But I'm pretty sure

1025
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: I was reading something in my colleague the NBC, Eric

1026
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: Samulsky Rother think about him, where.

1027
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 3: They changed the arm style a little bit.

1028
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: He was finding a little bit more extension, a little

1029
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: more velocity on this and it's been a lot more

1030
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: of just fastball color usage for him. He used to

1031
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: be a change up guy. He's not change up guy anymore.

1032
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: But he's just kind of better replacing the fastball in

1033
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 2: the color, which again in translation, it's gonna be a

1034
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: strike thrower.

1035
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 3: You should be able to hit.

1036
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: Him, yes, and then we know about our buddy Bryce Elder.

1037
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: Just throw it again, you hit the hit the fucking

1038
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: curveballs can be low out sidef they get shut down

1039
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: by Bryce Elder again, well we'll be gone this podcast

1040
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: on Sunday, just canceling the season.

1041
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh if yeah, if they get shut down bread

1042
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: Brice Elder again, it's almost like tear it down, start over.

1043
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: I do wonder how aggressive they'll be in the offseason,

1044
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: just because no matter what, even just sneak into the

1045
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: playoffs and again again bum rushed in a wild card round.

1046
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: It's like, how how much turnover do you actually expect

1047
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: for this roster?

1048
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how they can Like

1049
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: I don't neither.

1050
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 2: There's too many steady pieces.

1051
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: I hate saying this because like I do like Nimo,

1052
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: but like he can't be one of the main guys.

1053
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: He needs to be your sixth seventh guy right now.

1054
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: We're like you just we just can't rely on him

1055
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: to be one of the best players on this roster.

1056
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: Like you have Soto, you have Lindor, they're not going anywhere.

1057
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: Those guys are here forever, and you have the young

1058
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: Pitture nor should they. Yeah, I don't know, like, at

1059
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: what point do we, like you mentioned earlier, like do

1060
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: you just go this isn't working. We need to make

1061
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: legit big changes. But absolutely no one is taking that. No,

1062
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: that's not yeah yet.

1063
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 3: So how does that actually happen?

1064
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess when you think about this roster,

1065
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do we want to talk about this

1066
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: right now? Or is this just a thought process?

1067
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean again for all the people that has to listen,

1068
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: like a nice two minutes here about like what we

1069
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: actually think.

1070
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: There are a few guys leaving this team next year. Yeah,

1071
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: there are gonna be some more open spots. I would

1072
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: have to assume that one of Baby Acunya Mauricio Vientos

1073
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: will not be on this team next year. I don't

1074
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: think it's Baty, I don't think it's Mauricio a.

1075
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 7: J I'm on my phone right now. In Arena Club

1076
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 7: and I'm looking at the Emerald slab packs and I

1077
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 7: see in the grail a Bobby Wit Junior twenty twenty

1078
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 7: Bowman Chrome Prospect Auto Gold Refractor card.

1079
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: Give me that, give me your phone. I'm gonna I'm

1080
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: gonna get.

1081
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: You buy to me.

1082
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: I don't have it.

1083
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,640
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Speaker 3: Your slab pack. That card's worth you.

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00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,120
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Speaker 2: that sounds.

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Speaker 4: Awesome and it's worth a lot.

1090
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,359
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1091
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Speaker 7: Get a grill.

1092
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Speaker 3: I want a grail, Scott, give me the holy grill.

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Speaker 2: So Tim Tim Britton was on the Rates and Barrels

1105
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: podcast this week. Great, you guys are listen to some

1106
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: a lot of great insight about the Mets, a lot

1107
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: of like what you guys get on here. But Tim

1108
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: is in the clubhouse with the team most days, like

1109
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: he's He's on top of things. And Tim's also a

1110
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: contract guru. Tim is on top of projected contracts. He's

1111
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: so good at that.

1112
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 3: Two things. He said, they risk stuck outs to me.

1113
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 2: One, the last fifty five game stretch the Mets played

1114
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: heading into this National Series was worse than the first

1115
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: fifty five games of last year by one game.

1116
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: Think about that for a second.

1117
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: That's again how we always tell you guys, like you

1118
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: have to frame stats and records based on where you

1119
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: see him in the season.

1120
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: That's that really opened my eyes too.

1121
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: He said that he feels like one of baby Mauricio

1122
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: Viento's will not be on this team next year.

1123
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: And I'm leaning towards Mark Vento's just because he can't

1124
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: play a position.

1125
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also we've now brn Res has gotten invisible again,

1126
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: like all all the games, it felt like he was

1127
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: making with his chase rate. It's kind of just him

1128
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: swinging less often. Now he's swinging less often, he's getting

1129
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: frozen more often. It's and he's defense got a little

1130
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: bit more inconsistent. I'm seeing that right now. Peko Armstrong.

1131
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: You know right now how Pete Crow is just struggling mightily,

1132
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: Like two straight months low lowest rolling chase rate of

1133
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: his career.

1134
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: You know, why stop swinging?

1135
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: It's almost like sometimes like it's I mean, it's kind

1136
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: of like the heavier bias thing too, Like sometimes you're

1137
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: gonna let them be like who they are, just let

1138
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: be the player that you are.

1139
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: That's why I.

1140
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 2: Love that metric from Robert Lower baseball perspective Seeker. It's

1141
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: like the selective aggression, which pitches your swing out, which

1142
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: pitches you're taking, because that those always work in tandem.

1143
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of different ways to have good

1144
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: play discipline. Yes, like some guys don't want to get

1145
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: deep into cats EXeCO tovarhead a bat least night swung

1146
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 2: in seven executive pitches.

1147
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's just baseball.

1148
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's uh, I don't know those guys, no winker,

1149
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: no Marte, So like little, there's three hitters already not

1150
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: on this roster.

1151
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1152
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: I think they've probably been bringing back Louise Friends because

1153
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: how good he is defensively. But theoretically is that going anywhere? Yeah,

1154
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean he has no options. That's the one thing

1155
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: that's just like.

1156
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 3: He's also a fine backup catches.

1157
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: He's a great batch catcher. There's no Cedric Mullins. That's

1158
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: a fourth. Yeah, there's a chance Tyrone Taylor catches a

1159
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: DFA because Jose Siri will take that spot.

1160
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: There's also Tyrone Tellers last year of team control.

1161
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: No one more. He has another season next year, which

1162
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: makes the Jose Sirie thing even more interesting that they

1163
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: brought him in.

1164
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: Jose Sier also has many years of team control. He

1165
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: has two full yeah seasons after this year, and we

1166
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: know that.

1167
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: He's doing baseball activities. I think this weekend.

1168
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I think you are expecting him to get back,

1169
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: but they're going to time and so it's not to

1170
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: cut anybody that he'll be the September callum, Yes, of course,

1171
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: and whoever's just playing better if you make the playoffs

1172
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: that she gets.

1173
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: On the roster and then on the pitching side.

1174
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: Well, we've talked about the stagnation the pitching side that's

1175
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: going to be heading into next season.

1176
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: Yes, because we have ten starting pitchers.

1177
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't really know what to expect from any

1178
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: of them, if I'm to be honest with you, But

1179
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: you're going to go into next year Peterson, Sanga, Manaiah Holmes, Mantas, McGill, McLain,

1180
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: Scott Sprout, Yeah, Tom and yeah, ten right there, hard

1181
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: ten a very hard ten starting pitchers heading into the

1182
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: next season.

1183
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1184
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: So then it's like where is the wiggle room?

1185
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: Like where is the move Like he gets on the

1186
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: offensive side, I really do it's on the offense and

1187
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: then and then it's the bullpen again. But that's of

1188
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: course every year.

1189
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1190
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: But also Agri Mintern is a two year deal. We

1191
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: do not know what he's coming back to.

1192
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: Do, especially because if Edwin Diaz opsps out, which people

1193
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: think he might, I still don't buy it until it happens,

1194
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: just because I don't know how he's going to get

1195
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: more money than he currently is on this contract. He's

1196
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: not coming back if he opts out. David Surtns is like,

1197
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: not because Edwin Diaz is bad, but because it's like

1198
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars going to a closer for the next

1199
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: like three years if he stays. David Curtin is like

1200
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: on his hands and knees begging for that money to

1201
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: be freed up. But Aj Minter and is the only

1202
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: guy on a real contract in this rotation besides arb guys, right.

1203
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: Yes, Minter, Well, I mean then also, we're going to

1204
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: still have re Garrett, but.

1205
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: He's not on like he's on a team control contract. Yes, yes, yes,

1206
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: So the bullbenk could look very different.

1207
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: It will look very different.

1208
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: I think that was That seems to be the whole

1209
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: plan with the trade deadline, where the Yankees now got

1210
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: controllable relievers and the Mets like we just want to

1211
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: invent our own next year. Also, we misspoke on the

1212
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: last episode there was a discrepancy as to when Jonah

1213
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 2: Than was Rule five eligible. We got it sneakly confirmed

1214
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 2: from a team official that is, actually it's not this year,

1215
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: it's next year, which is the same as Brandon is Brote. Weirdly,

1216
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 2: the month he was born kind of dictated that because

1217
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: of when he was born and when he was drafted

1218
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: out of high school. So feels like that shouldn't matter,

1219
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: which is kind of hilarious. But we did think it

1220
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: was this year, so it was next year. So I

1221
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: do think that iver sind everything I said Joan Tong,

1222
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: I will not pitch on this the major league team

1223
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: this year.

1224
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 3: I think almost definitely not.

1225
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean there's no reason I guess to

1226
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: start as forty man clock, but also proa same clock.

1227
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this Mets need a picture right now.

1228
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: So if they're one of the if you think that

1229
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: they're one of the five best pictures right now in

1230
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: the organization, and this team is on the outskirts looking

1231
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: in on a playoff spot, possibly you might have to

1232
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: push that button and see what the what they got?

1233
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 2: No, and we and we got a Lance Pratztowski full

1234
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: YouTube video whi Johan Tong was featured in it that

1235
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: just came out because to watch that with Dong, So

1236
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: I just I do wonder where how created this team

1237
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: gets because maybe there is just like an exo.

1238
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: This is something because like we we had some.

1239
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Good conversation Matt Eddie this week in our Twitter group

1240
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 2: about the how how we have cleaned up our forty

1241
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: man roster a lot as the Mets. So there is

1242
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: actually a good moment for them to have some flexibility,

1243
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: and that was a big part of the Tyler Rogers trade,

1244
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: not really wanting to cloud this thing up with guys

1245
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 2: like Budeau. Bhutto Drew Gilbert Blaye ted, well, we didn't

1246
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: really see a much of a future for this organization anyway.

1247
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know. I think they have a

1248
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: little more flexibility than may think. Yeah, yeah, mark Uh.

1249
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: Frankie Peppers tweeted us that he's got interesting message. So

1250
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: I gotta hear what Frankie's got for me, because boy,

1251
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: oh boy, I'm down in the dumps.

1252
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were just keeping the people a long time.

1253
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: Everyone's just sitting here late at the end of the

1254
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: epso waiting for Frankie Peppers. But without further ado, we

1255
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: have we have a one twenty seven and then the six second,

1256
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: then a six.

1257
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: Second are on low power mode.

1258
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 3: No, I'm not, I took it off.

1259
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: I got you. This's tent nice. Here comes Franky.

1260
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 4: Gentlemen, this is Frankie Pepper.

1261
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 5: So you're don't I think recent events call for an

1262
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 5: emergency group bowling yets.

1263
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 4: So here's what I'm going to need everybody listening to them.

1264
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 5: You need to take two celery stalks, two carrots.

1265
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 4: And half it on you and chopped that up. Okay,

1266
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 4: put that inte.

1267
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 5: You take a pound of bacon or a pound of

1268
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 5: pan shadow and.

1269
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 4: You fry that.

1270
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 5: You remove it once it's nice and crispy, krispy in

1271
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 5: that fat, okay, and then you're remove the vegetables.

1272
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 4: You put in three pounds of beef.

1273
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 5: Okay, you fry that down, and then you put in

1274
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 5: one eight ounce can of tomato paste. You stir that

1275
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 5: in until it cooks. Add the panchada and the vegetables

1276
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 5: back in.

1277
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 4: Okay.

1278
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 5: Then you're gonna want to add three cups each of

1279
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 5: chicken stock and milk. If you lactose intolerant, use like

1280
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 5: a cashew or.

1281
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 4: Another type of milk.

1282
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 5: Let that boil down, and once you get a sauce

1283
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 5: out of it, add three cups of wine white a red.

1284
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 4: I typically use red. It's not common, but I think

1285
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 4: it's really good.

1286
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 5: Do that, Add four bay leafs, add a big pinch

1287
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 5: of salt, and let that simmer down until you have

1288
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 5: a nice low.

1289
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: Goose style boonies. And then you make your favorite pasta.

1290
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 5: And then you put the boonies over the pasta add

1291
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 5: a little parmesan or a peck of reno graded on

1292
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 5: to the top, and everybody needs to do that. Okays,

1293
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 5: the only way anything good can happen here.

1294
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 4: All right, thanks boys, let's go Max.

1295
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we can hold on. Oh yeah,

1296
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: that's right, we have And.

1297
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 5: If you make the bolgns, make sure to post it

1298
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 5: on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: And uh and tag me let me know you did it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks boys.

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Speaker 1: One more, one more.

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Speaker 4: Also under salting food is like a chronic problem, make

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Speaker 4: sure you can put an assualt in it. Okay, really,

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Speaker 4: I'm done, Thanks boys.

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Speaker 1: All right, you got me a smile at the end

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Speaker 1: of this episode.

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Speaker 2: You guys heard Frankie, So uh any any bologness that

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Speaker 2: you guys make any point over the next weekend? I

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Speaker 2: think I might try to make my own on a

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Speaker 2: Sunday as well. See if I get some videos done,

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Speaker 2: well we'll we'll repost you guys from mess up towether

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Speaker 2: any bolonnes I.

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Speaker 1: Was gonna throw a suggestion out that busy weekend, so

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Speaker 1: we have we have a lot going on. But if

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Speaker 1: the Mets don't write the ship this weekend, I think

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Speaker 1: we might be due for like a cooking video on

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Speaker 1: the change. It might be a cooking podcast episode where

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Speaker 1: we cook. Yeah, we do, we do a bone we

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Speaker 1: do we do a bol mets up bologness. Maybe Frankie

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Speaker 1: Peppers is there in spirit?

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Speaker 3: Maybe?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I like that. Yeah, if we do, do we do

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Speaker 3: a busy weekend? We've gone forget about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do pretty big busy weekend. So hopefully we don't

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Speaker 1: have to. Maybe maybe even if they do play well,

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Speaker 1: maybe we can still. And you, guys, make a bolonnaise.

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Speaker 2: You tweet one of us and we'll give you and

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Speaker 2: frank you of course, tag Frankie. You get you get

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Speaker 2: reposted on the mess up to their cat or Instagram

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Speaker 2: wherever it be anything Twitter, Instagram, you you tag us

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Speaker 2: any bolonnais.

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Speaker 1: That's it, guys, Thank you for listening, Thank you for watching.

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Speaker 1: You can follow James on social media at James Sean,

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Speaker 1: I'm Draftnickmark for the see Thank you as for listening,

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Speaker 1: thank you for watching. Please, for the love of God,

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Speaker 1: let's go Mets.

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Speaker 3: Please come on Mets. See you guys next time.