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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Getty Armstrong, and and he Armstrong and Yetty, I think

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Speaker 2: you're right.

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Speaker 3: I think we've got a Dodgers Brewers NLCS edit.

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Speaker 4: Our ways are in the National League. Now, oh, NLCS,

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Speaker 4: you said, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll be a whale of

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Speaker 3: Well, and you got the biggest media market in the

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Speaker 3: entire country versus one of the very smallest.

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Speaker 2: So that's right.

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Speaker 3: Coming up, they caught a nut job, thank god, who

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Speaker 3: is waiting outside a church where all of the Supreme

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Speaker 3: Court justices were supposed to show up for mass He

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Speaker 3: had two hundred bombs with clams can kill them all.

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Speaker 3: And we'll get to that story coming up next segment.

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Speaker 4: Also in breaking news, a Cabinet secretary has dropped a

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Speaker 4: pea bomb on live TV. Christin nom called the leadership

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Speaker 4: of Portland Pansies. The shocking details coming up. Stay with us.

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Speaker 4: If you're a non Pansy, you can take it. Also,

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Speaker 4: the Washington Post in Trent was it the wappo or no?

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Speaker 4: The journal in trying to explain how the shutdown is

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Speaker 4: already causing problems made kind of the opposite point.

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Speaker 2: I want to get to that.

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Speaker 4: But first, yesterday around the country, a lot of college campuses,

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Speaker 4: in a lot of big cities, including New York, there

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Speaker 4: were big pro Hamas rallies in which the strategies and

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Speaker 4: tactics and beliefs of Hamas were raw. Rod Well, I

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Speaker 4: think Israel has gone a little overboard. No no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: no no no. It was kill all the Jews and

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Speaker 4: up with Hamas and up with Islam and Islamism over

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Speaker 4: the country.

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Speaker 2: It's funny how little coverage it's getting.

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Speaker 4: It's hard, isn't it. There are a couple of examples.

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Speaker 4: The first one is fairly calm. It's an interview of

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Speaker 4: a woman in a hijab, young woman looks to be

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Speaker 4: a college age maybe a little older, being asked about

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Speaker 4: October seventh and its legacy, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: I think freedom will be achieved when the Israelis go

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Speaker 5: back to where they were born, which is probably America.

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Speaker 2: Poland, So you mean leaving the state of Israel? Is

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Speaker 2: that what you mean?

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Speaker 3: You don't believe in a state of Israel.

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Speaker 6: Nah, And I don't understand why Jewish students might feel

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Speaker 3: In the Countisi, then.

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Speaker 7: No, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I understand why they might feel like that,

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Speaker 2: And there you go, there's the problem.

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Speaker 8: Imagine if that was said about anybody else, there'd be

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Speaker 8: utter hell to pay. Are these protests on this day,

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Speaker 8: the second anniversary of one of the worst terrorist atrocities

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Speaker 8: this century committed against.

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Speaker 2: Israeli mint it against Jews by an.

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Speaker 8: Organization that has said it wants to carry out the

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Speaker 8: same attack day after day. Are these protests, to use

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Speaker 8: the PM's words, Unbritish because they show and again I'm

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Speaker 8: quoting so little respect for others. And that's before some

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Speaker 8: all over again.

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Speaker 2: End quote.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there you have an example of it.

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Speaker 4: I'm afraid, clearly from Great Britain. A reference to the

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Speaker 4: fact that if anybody says anything even slightly critical about

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Speaker 4: thoughts online. Europe. Britain in particular is terrified of Islamists

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Speaker 4: and is bowing before them. That's the long and short

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Speaker 4: of it, because they can get away with things no

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Speaker 3: Is greatly true. That's not even like a close call.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you've been following the stories at all,

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Speaker 3: you say something at anti trains or anti Islam in

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Speaker 2: You might go to jail.

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Speaker 3: You can march in the street declaring all Jews must die.

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Speaker 4: And nothing happens, right right, Yeah, does anybody know clip

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Speaker 4: eighty seven where that's from, where that rally is? Anybody?

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Speaker 4: Maybe we can figure it out. But this is a

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Speaker 2: Read it not acting up. We did not acting up.

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Speaker 2: We're being up to me.

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Speaker 9: We did not acting up. If we acted it up

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Speaker 2: Our work is not done.

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Speaker 10: I shut up.

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Speaker 9: Were all good than we did the first ducts over seven,

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Speaker 2: Did the first ducks over U many get clear, we

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Speaker 9: Until Palestine is free, up the river.

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Speaker 2: To the sea, our lifetime. That's in New York.

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Speaker 4: To phrased young cultists in New York vowing a Bigger,

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Speaker 4: Stronger October seventh.

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Speaker 3: That's the biggest population of Jewish people in the world

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Speaker 3: outside of Israel, New York City, and that guy is

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Speaker 3: standing up on a stool chanting that with people cheering

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Speaker 3: him in Freeing New York. You got a small.

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Speaker 4: Number of jackass white supremacists walking through Charlottesville and a

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Speaker 4: giant counter demonstration that dwarfed their numbers, and the world

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Speaker 2: New York Time t i'ms Washington Post, all of you people,

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Speaker 2: what do you have to say? You liars?

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Speaker 3: That's the best ab of this that I've seen. I mean,

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Speaker 3: somewhere else. And it doesn't get it doesn't get any

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Speaker 4: And we're we the Israelis, somebody the US is supposed

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Speaker 4: to come to an agreement with these people.

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Speaker 3: White hicks in somewhere saying we will not be replaced.

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Speaker 3: National crisis causes Joe Biden run for president.

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Speaker 4: So we've talked about the Red Green Alliance a little bit,

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Speaker 4: the weird coming together of the radical leftist like Marxist

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Speaker 4: the twentieth century. You know, with Iran, the Marxists got

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Speaker 4: together with the Islamist which we're about to talk about,

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Speaker 4: and then the folks who actually came up with critical

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Speaker 4: theory and the whole dei thing. Michelle Fico, French philosopher.

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Speaker 4: It was all about bringing down modern liberalism and Western society.

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Speaker 4: And those people openly said, hey, you're against Western society,

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Speaker 4: we're against Western society.

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Speaker 2: We will join with you.

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Speaker 4: We will play down your excesses, we'll claim their lies

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Speaker 4: from fascists, and we'll work together. And then, like all revolutionaries,

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Speaker 4: which is how revolutions go. But it's that's how you

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Speaker 4: end up with queers for Palestine or transgenders for Palestine.

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Speaker 4: It not only doesn't make any sense, it's the opposite

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Speaker 10: I'm a political refugee from Iran. I've been to Prism,

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Speaker 10: I've been under Islamic law and I know how it starts,

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Speaker 10: and it scares me.

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Speaker 3: So I came here to be free.

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Speaker 10: I chose Canada as my second home to be a

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Speaker 10: really scared because the way things are going, it looks

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Speaker 10: like they're going to basically appease Islamists just to not

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Speaker 10: raise any rockets or something. They're just going to appease

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Speaker 10: them step by step, and they're not going to stop.

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Speaker 10: They see it as a sign of weakness, so they're

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Speaker 10: going to take more and more, and I'm against that.

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Speaker 10: I believe Canada should be free and freedom of speech

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Speaker 10: is something that nobody can take.

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Speaker 3: The college crowd always joins with thel Islam, and then

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Speaker 3: he got a.

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Speaker 2: Pretty big block.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and the Islamists rally the Islamic supremacist part

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Speaker 2: And then the Marxist.

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Speaker 4: The neo Marxist technique is you get every single group

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Speaker 4: with any sort of gripe, from I'm transgender to I'm

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Speaker 4: And just every gripe you can imagine racial minorities, sexual

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Speaker 4: eternal omni cause. And then you join together with Islamists

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Speaker 4: because you all agree that you need to overthrow civilization.

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Speaker 4: Then you end up with an absolute nut job. Like

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Speaker 4: we played what was the last hour or two hours ago?

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Speaker 4: I almost want to hear that again, just that clip eighty.

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Speaker 4: This is at a big rally, man on the street interview.

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Speaker 11: So is this this is the.

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Speaker 6: Translact, this is the Palestinian flag mixed with the Transitlanian.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what do you say to those who say that

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Speaker 3: trans people would be killed in Palestine?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know about that, but I know

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Speaker 6: the Gazan government needs to be trans women like Muhammed himself.

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Speaker 6: Muhammad herself was head sacked a trans lesbian.

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Speaker 2: Muhammad was a woman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Islam is.

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Speaker 6: A trans idea, it's a trans religion. It's Mohammad herself

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Speaker 3: And Iran the morality police and also in Gaza they

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Speaker 6: Do you think that that's not true or I mean,

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Speaker 6: no Muslim would actually do that.

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Speaker 4: I hope that poor confused little fella doesn't end up

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Speaker 4: for it. I mean, Solomon Rushdie, we all know his story. Yeah. Boy,

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Speaker 4: these people are so incredibly profoundly misguided it it boggles

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Speaker 3: It really really does. You can almost picture him, you know,

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Speaker 3: asking somebody, what about the hole I hear about Muslims

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Speaker 4: Is that true?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, Islam is a is a pro gay religion.

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Speaker 3: In fact, Mohammed was a trans woman.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, cool. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The people who are using you, useless idiots, know precisely

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Speaker 4: what they're doing, and they are they have nothing but

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Speaker 2: But you're useful to them. That guy is an idiot.

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Speaker 4: You're a poor, little, confused fella who was masquerading barely

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Speaker 4: as a woman. I can just picture him being dragged

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Speaker 4: away to the torture chambers saying I was with you,

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Speaker 4: I support you.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, thank god.

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Speaker 3: So many of these people are crazy that they're too

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Speaker 3: crazy to pull off their crimes. Of course, the guy

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Speaker 3: Trump was dang crazy and came close enough. We got

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Speaker 3: an example coming up. A guy got arrested just two

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Speaker 3: to take out the entire Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good lord. Just one encouraging note.

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Speaker 4: It's great to see the working class in Britain rising

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Speaker 2: You're in league with these people or not having it.

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Speaker 2: We want England back.

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Speaker 4: And of course they're portrayed as bigots and soccer hooligans

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Speaker 3: So there is humor to be had in this next story,

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Speaker 3: It definitely seems like half a lunatic, but oftentimes successful

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Speaker 2: Ichael thirty?

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Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna get close to the good part

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Speaker 2: Did the top.

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Speaker 3: Candidate to be governor of California completely derail their campaign

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Speaker 3: in an interview that went haywire. We'll play that for

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Speaker 3: So a guy is in front of a church in Washington,

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Speaker 3: In an effort to de escalate, so the guy is

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Speaker 3: to the church, mass has been called off at this point.

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Speaker 3: The notebook was titled written Negotiations for the Avoidance of

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Speaker 3: Destruction of Property via Detonation of Explosives. Okay. The sergeant

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Speaker 4: I and he already got a bunch of tubes with

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Speaker 3: This is your big moment.

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Speaker 3: Do I gotta whiz? There's a tree right over there.

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Speaker 2: All right? The cops, the cops. I forgot that right.

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Speaker 2: I can't leave the tents or I'll get a rest.

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Speaker 2: What I mean? Honestly, he's one brand of crazy or another.

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Speaker 2: But he kind of had the leftist list. Yep, he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he you know, doesn't mean he couldn't

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Speaker 2: Oh sing to the Supreme Court just real quickly? Hanson did?

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Speaker 4: Katanji Brown Jackson. I listened to about a third of

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Speaker 4: About that the Salazar case in Colorado about the horrific

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Speaker 2: It's bizarre.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, Old KJB asks a couple of questions. I'm like,

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Really?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you've never heard of Katie Porter. I barely have.

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Speaker 3: And I live, you know, in California and fall of

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Speaker 3: it went really poorly. As you're about to hear, but

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Speaker 3: Charlie Cook said, is Katie Porter the least likable politician

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Speaker 3: Dolly Parton. Anyway, she sits down for an interview, and

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Speaker 3: this is how it goes.

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Speaker 1: What do you say to the forty percent of California

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Speaker 14: How would I need them in order to win?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent

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Speaker 1: everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.

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Speaker 3: That's what you're in a general election.

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Speaker 14: Yes, if it is me versus a Republican, I think

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Speaker 1: What if it's you versus another Democrat?

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Speaker 14: I don't intend that to be the case.

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Speaker 1: So how do you not intend that to be the case?

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Speaker 13: Do you?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to ask them not to run?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 14: No, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I

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Speaker 14: I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I

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Speaker 14: votes before. That's not something every candidate and this race

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Speaker 3: You just said you don't need those.

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Speaker 2: Trump voters, So you asked me if I needed them

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Speaker 3: Okay, And this is where it goes sideways a little bit.

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Speaker 1: The question is the same thing I asked everybody that

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Speaker 1: this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's

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Speaker 1: power grab. Every other candidate has answered this question, this is.

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Speaker 3: Not and I said I support it.

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Speaker 1: So and the question is what do you say to

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Speaker 1: the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump?

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Speaker 14: Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you

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Speaker 14: need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm

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Speaker 14: happy to answer the question aswer. The question is you

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Speaker 14: haven't written and all answer.

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Speaker 1: And we've also asked the other candidates do you think

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Speaker 1: you need any of those forty percent of California voters

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Speaker 1: to win? And you're saying no, you don't.

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Speaker 14: No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every

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Speaker 14: vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is that,

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Speaker 14: well to those voters. Okay, so you I don't want

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Speaker 14: to keep doing this, I'm going to call it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. You're not going to do the interview with them.

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Speaker 14: Nope, not like this. I'm not not with seven follow

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Speaker 14: ups to every single question you ask.

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Speaker 1: Every other candidate has.

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Speaker 14: I don't care.

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Speaker 10: I don't care.

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Speaker 14: I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you

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Speaker 14: asked me about every issue on this list. And if

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Speaker 14: every question you're going to make up a follow up question,

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Speaker 14: then we're never going to get there and we're just

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Speaker 14: going to circle.

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Speaker 13: Had to do this before ever, you've never had had an.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but every other candidate has done this.

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Speaker 14: What part of I'm me? I'm running for governor because

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Speaker 14: I'm a leader, So I am going to make.

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Speaker 1: So you're not going to answer questions from reporters.

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Speaker 2: And it goes on for quite a while. I was

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Speaker 2: enjoying it, I know.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, so I think, well, I think that hurt

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Speaker 3: her a lot. And you know, in one party state

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Speaker 3: politics doesn't change. There are other people that want to

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Speaker 3: be governor that are Democrats, that are going to tear

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Speaker 3: her apart over that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but unless she has been anointed by the the

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Speaker 4: public employee unions is their choice, then they dare not true.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point, but as Joe pointed out earlier,

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Speaker 3: what's going on there is in a one party state.

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Speaker 3: She's never been questioned before, in a one party state

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Speaker 3: with a impliant media that agrees that the Democrats should

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Speaker 3: run everything, She's never had to answer any questions before.

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Speaker 3: So I've never had to do this before to end

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Speaker 3: an interview. It's because you've never really done any interviews.

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Speaker 3: You've never had to, and you're hoping to cruiz into

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Speaker 3: being governor.

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Speaker 2: Without ever having to.

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Speaker 4: Yes, she's never had an adversarial conversation with a member

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Speaker 4: of the media, which is why Gavin Newsom is I

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Speaker 4: just can't wait till he's actually running for president because

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Speaker 4: he's he's a college team that has only had inter

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Speaker 4: squad scrimmages and imagines he's ready for the Rose Bowl

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Speaker 4: or whatever, and he's just gonna get obliterated when he

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Speaker 4: goes up against actual opposition. And Katie Borders the same thing.

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Speaker 4: She is the anointed, you know, the choice of the

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Speaker 4: unions and attorneys that run state of California.

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Speaker 3: This is I realize, sensitive and mean, and you shouldn't

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Speaker 3: vote for people based on how they look, and I

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Speaker 3: would never but her advanced team did her no favors

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Speaker 3: in the angle of the shot for the interview.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, oh, I don't think we need to go there.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying if it's me, I mean I

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Speaker 3: have more flattering angles and I have less flattering angles.

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Speaker 3: In fact, there are many many unflattering angles. But if

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Speaker 3: I was running, I would say, how about we put

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Speaker 3: the camera over there or over there, but not here?

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Speaker 3: And she needed to do that with someone.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying. Yes, okay, fair enough.

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Speaker 3: When she sits around the capital, when she sits around

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Speaker 3: the capitol, she sits around the Capitol.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I was gonna praise you as being

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Speaker 4: gentlemanly there, I laugh. I should have known better. That

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Speaker 4: is ridiculous. I disavow. I disavow.

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Speaker 3: I will eat those Republicans for lunch and dinner breakfast

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Speaker 3: the next day.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, hey, why don't we interject the word from

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Speaker 4: simply save home security here? So innovative, so different? You're

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Speaker 4: old systems which were expensive and crappy, would only like

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Speaker 4: go off when somebody's already smashed their way inside your house.

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Speaker 2: But that's too late.

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Speaker 4: Real security should stop a crime before it even starts.

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Speaker 4: And that's why you trust Simply Safe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with all the AI cameras and all that sort

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Speaker 3: of stuff, they can detect a problem before it happens.

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Speaker 3: They can actually speak to the intruder, like in your

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Speaker 3: backyard or lurking around the front door or whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: That's really cool.

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Speaker 2: I've got the.

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Speaker 3: Cameras and the sensors and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Simply Safe is the best. Hey, and it's a money

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Speaker 3: back guarantee. I mean, you know you can return it

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Speaker 3: if you want to, so why not try it out?

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Speaker 2: I swear I would do that job for no pay

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Speaker 2: for Simply Safe.

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Speaker 4: You know, the AI cameras alert me and I see

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Speaker 4: there's the Armstrong house and there's some scumbag junkie about

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Speaker 4: to climb in the window. I would do this job

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Speaker 4: for free. Hey, jackass, Yeah, I'm talking to you. Hey,

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Speaker 4: how about you give up the drugs and get a

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Speaker 4: job like normal people. What are your grandparents thinking, you scumbag?

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Speaker 2: Huh? I like that?

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Speaker 13: Huh?

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Speaker 3: I like that make them feel bad about theirselves. I

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Speaker 3: see you lurking in the bush as you loser.

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Speaker 4: I would leap out of bed every day waiting to

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Speaker 4: go to my job if I did that for a living. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: simply save sixty eight money back guarantee, no long term contracts.

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Speaker 4: They earn your business every single damn day, and right

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Speaker 4: now you good folks can save fifty percent off. Simply

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Speaker 4: save home security systems a new one. A's simply safe

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Speaker 4: dot com slash armstrong. That's simply safe dot com slash armstrong.

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Speaker 4: There's no safe like simply safe.

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Speaker 3: I got go with the long discussion. See you see

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Speaker 3: them lurking in the bushes. So hey, sir, I can

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Speaker 3: see out there and you're hoping to break into this house.

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Speaker 3: So what are you open to get five ten thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars worth of stuff?

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's know, that.

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Speaker 3: Would be a huge that'd be a dream come true. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: probably gonna get Maybe you get a grand worth of stuff.

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do with that?

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Speaker 3: What are you gonna retire to an island for the

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Speaker 3: rest of your life on one thousand dollars?

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Speaker 2: No, man, I'm gonna score. I got a score.

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Speaker 3: So your drug addict, in other words, is that what

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Speaker 3: you're telling me? I suggest you get some sort of

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Speaker 3: help and get off the drugs.

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Speaker 4: You know, the city I live in make them like

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Speaker 4: super comfortable to be a junkie, and so we just

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Speaker 4: wake up and get high, then go eat a free

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Speaker 4: meal and get high more and nobody ever hassles us.

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Speaker 3: Man, that would be the actual answer. I really enjoy

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Speaker 3: being high, and thus far there's no reason for me

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Speaker 3: not to be high all day.

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Speaker 2: Right, there are no disincentives for my aberant behavior.

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Speaker 3: It's working out pretty well for me, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: would you do today? Get up and go to work.

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Speaker 2: I'm working. I'm gonna give When.

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Speaker 4: Katie was checking out at the grocery store and a

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Speaker 4: bunch of thieves were carrying out armloads of goods and said,

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Speaker 4: y'all paying in the line.

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Speaker 3: Are suckers, and it's hard not to feel like one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Other than that, you know, you have to have a

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Speaker 3: working society.

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Speaker 4: And then I would have to just go with well,

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Speaker 4: the cops are on their way and they're going to

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Speaker 4: whack you in the head with a stick and then

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Speaker 4: put you in jail, So enjoy your whacking. Having been

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Speaker 4: discouraged by my discussion with the junkie boy and realizing

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Speaker 4: that society is turned toward lawlessness.

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Speaker 2: It certainly blue blue places.

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Speaker 3: I think he would be good at that job, yelling

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Speaker 3: at people who are about to break into homes.

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Speaker 4: Oh again, I mean it was like when Babe Ruth

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Speaker 4: first stepped on a baseball field. I'm where I'm meant

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Speaker 4: to be. It's a beautiful dream.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot more on the way.

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Speaker 3: Stay here, arm Strong.

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Speaker 7: And one of the things I've been dealing with all

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Speaker 7: day here in Portland is a bunch of pansies that

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Speaker 7: are elected into political office who won't make a decision

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Speaker 7: to keep their citizens safe. This mayor is going to

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Speaker 7: wait until somebody gets violently hurt or killed. He's going

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Speaker 7: to have blood on his hands because he sat around

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Speaker 7: and thought too long, because he's too scared of the

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Speaker 7: political ramifications of making a big decision to keep his

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Speaker 7: city safe.

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Speaker 2: They're calling it pansy Gate.

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Speaker 4: Christy Nome, the Secretary of something or other saying Portland's

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Speaker 4: elected a bunch of pansies to their leaderships.

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Speaker 2: Terrible skirt, her.

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Speaker 3: Long, luxurious hair flowing over her shoulders.

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Speaker 4: As she does her interviews, and the pansy's looking on

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Speaker 4: with tears brimming in their eyes. It was terrible, terrible

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Speaker 4: moment speaking of women in politics. I listened to as

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Speaker 4: I said, about a third of the oral arguments and

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Speaker 4: the horrific Salazar case First Amendment case before the Supreme

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Speaker 4: Court or the State of Colorado has a law that says,

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Speaker 4: if a confused adolescent comes to you and says, I'm

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Speaker 4: starting to think maybe I ought to become a girl,

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Speaker 4: you are expressly allowed by the state to say, I

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Speaker 4: think that's a good idea, let's help you become a girl.

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Speaker 4: But you are forbidden by state law as a counselor

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Speaker 4: to say, let's talk about this, because a lot of

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Speaker 4: boys feel these things but end up being happy they're boys.

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Speaker 4: Even if the kid comes to you and says I

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Speaker 4: need some counseling because this is weird and I'm not

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Speaker 4: comfortable with it, you are not allowed to say that.

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Speaker 4: And the Supreme and the Tenth Circuit Court, to their

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Speaker 4: eternal shame and discredit, agreed with the State of Colorado

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Speaker 4: and said, no, that's just like saying a medical doctor

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Speaker 4: can't like cut off your healthy finger. It's a regulation,

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Speaker 4: and the Supreme Court was not really hearing it. But

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Speaker 4: Catangi Brown Jackson got her chance to ask questions. And

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Speaker 4: here's how it went.

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Speaker 13: As I understated, the First Amendment protects the communication of messages, expression,

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Speaker 13: et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Am I right about that?

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Speaker 13: I mean, you're communicating and that's what the First Amendment

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Speaker 13: is about?

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Speaker 3: Correct?

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Speaker 4: So I guess I'm still okay. So I'm thinking, as

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Speaker 4: I listened to that, you just asked them. So there

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Speaker 4: are three branches of government right in fifty states?

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Speaker 2: Am I right about that?

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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, Okay, that's a kind of embarrassing, you know, opening,

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Speaker 4: But surely she's working towards some subtlety of the First Amendment.

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Speaker 13: Just struggling with whether a therapist who is acting in

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Speaker 13: their professional capacity to help someone achieve their goals, is

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Speaker 13: really expressing the kind of message or expressing a message

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Speaker 13: for First Amendment purposes. I mean, I understand if MS

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Speaker 13: Child's here were writing an article about conversion therapy or

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Speaker 13: writing or giving a speech about it. But it's just

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Speaker 13: a little puzzling to me that she would stand in

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Speaker 13: a different position than a medical professional who has exactly

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Speaker 13: the same goals, exactly the same interests, and would just

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Speaker 13: be prescribing medication for that rather than her talking with

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Speaker 13: the client.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: First of all, the attorney knocks that one out of

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Speaker 4: the park, as he should, but she seriously just asked,

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Speaker 4: is like a conversation protected speech?

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Speaker 2: Or is it just like articles and stuff.

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Speaker 4: Ignoring or being unaware of hundreds of years of First

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Speaker 4: Amendment precedence.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's an insane thing to ask. Are conversations

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Speaker 2: protected by the Constitution?

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Speaker 3: Is she doing the like rhetorical thing of you know,

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Speaker 3: you're like setting up a point by asking obvious questions

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Speaker 3: and getting the person say yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what I was kind of hoping. But no,

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Speaker 4: then she has the attorney answer her question. But so

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Speaker 4: she seemed to actually wonder whether a conversation was protected speech,

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Speaker 4: which is really a bizarre question to ask.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, roll on, Michael.

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Speaker 11: I think that they would have exactly the same goals

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Speaker 11: because this involves a conversation. Yes, there is a back

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Speaker 11: and forth. So this court is recognized many times in

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Speaker 11: cases like McCullen that a one on one conversation is

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Speaker 11: a form of speech. And that's exactly what's going on

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Speaker 11: with MS Childs and her clients. So when she engages

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Speaker 11: in those conversations, she's encouraging them to achieve their goals.

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Speaker 11: She's discussing concepts of identity and behavior and attractions and

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Speaker 11: how they fit together. This is an ongoing, active dialogue

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Speaker 11: where she's helping them to explore their goals, and that

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Speaker 11: absolutely has to be protected by the first semn.

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Speaker 4: So what Kataji Brown Jackson eventually is trying to do

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Speaker 4: and Kagan did something similar, uh, was was argue that well,

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Speaker 4: because her goals would be the same as like someone

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Speaker 4: prescribing a drug, that they she should be bound to

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Speaker 4: the same you know, like regulations. And the attorney and

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Speaker 4: the other justices were like, no, dudes, all that's happening

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Speaker 4: here is conversation.

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Speaker 2: It's all speech.

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Speaker 4: It's speech and nothing but speech, just because the goal

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Speaker 4: might be somewhat similar to another doctor who might have

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Speaker 4: the power to prescribe drugs, which this gal doesn't.

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Speaker 2: She's just a licensed counselor.

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Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, I don't, I don't know, because that

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Speaker 4: speech has a goal that's kind of like a medicine.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's protected speech. I was tearing

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Speaker 3: my hair out, Oh my god, do you think that?

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Speaker 3: How do you think this is gonna go?

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Speaker 2: They'll they'll rule in favor of her.

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Speaker 4: It's just a question of I mean, if there are

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Speaker 4: two or more votes in favor of Colorado, it's it's

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Speaker 4: a nightmare. It's a First Amendment nightmare that somebody could

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Speaker 4: end up there.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting. We have got more on the way,

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