WEBVTT - Are Influencers Disappearing or Evolving? 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:06.120 Welcome to my show. I know that's right. It's your girl, man, 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:10.000 and you're listening to exactly I'm a Amia Motor production 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:12.520 of iHeart. Thank you so much for tuning in. They 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.080 ko much could ask us, and don't forget to give 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.080 us those five stars. Subscribe to the podcast on your 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:21.840 favorite podcast platform. I check out my music shows and interviews, 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.160 everything I've been doing lately. Because you know, a girl 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:29.160 keeps baby on today's episode. You know what, this is 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.559 such a juicy topic and we could talk about it 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.760 all day because we won't be talking about influencers. Influencers, 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.880 the evolution of influencers. How the hell did we get here? 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.320 How do we get from like when we first came 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.400 up with like MySpace, your top five friends and all 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.040 this great stuff to all the way now where we 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.720 have TikTokers and you know, little kids doing YouTube videos 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.920 and making millions and millions of dollars, and just the 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.480 way that the Internet and social media has evolved into 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.040 the way than now people are creating careers and all 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.920 that type of crazy stuff out of it. Arlene is 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.600 my girl. She's in here today. Arlene, my love. How 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.160 are you and what do you think about the whole 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:11.880 social media influencer thing. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:16.640 This is a wild topic because, according to the Data 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:23.480 Bridge Market Research, by twenty twenty nine, the influencer industry 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:28.920 is gonna be worth sixty nine billion dollars. 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.720 Way, why I better get myself in some of that. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.440 So we have a very special guest. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.440 Y'all may recognize his sexy voice. His name is Kelvin Davis. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.520 He's gonna be hopping on to help us out with 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:46.320 his topic. He's a renowned social media expert an influencer himself. 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:51.360 Y'all may know him from notoriously dapper Kelvin. You bring 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:55.400 a wealth of knowledge and unique insights for this particular topic. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.600 Join us, bring on your energy and tell us how 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:00.880 you feel about this topic. 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.800 Right, let's get it. Thank you for having me again. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.040 I'm going to go ahead and start off by giving 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.000 myself my old flowers. Okay, I am one of the 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.560 I'm one of the ogs. I'm wanted the originators, like 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.320 I'm talking to them like back twenty twelve. You know 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.200 what I'm saying. We're talking about eleven years in the game. Okay, 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.320 everybody wants to show the highlights, don't nobody want to 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.640 talk about the realness of what they go through in life. 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.200 There's a lot of non transparency. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.760 People be lying Yeah, I know, that's right. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.760 Yeah, they be lying saying they got this and that 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:33.440 and how they. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.440 Got it, And it's bologney. It's a fake perfection of 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.799 a lifestyle that you really don't have. Why don't you 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.560 talk about when you ain't got no money, you ain't 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.680 got no gas money. Why don't you talk about you 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.280 can't pay your bills? Why can't we because I know 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.679 you when I discussed it in the past episode, Why 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.840 can't you be vulnerable publicly without feeling like you're judging 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.160 people to actually come and comfort you and just be 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.440 part of a community, of a society where we're here 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.040 for each other. Why can't we do that? You know? 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.640 Why don't you say to that outfit that sauty you 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.440 got on, you're gonna go back and return and get 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:06.440 your money back. Why aren't we speaking the truth about it? 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.600 And let me tell you Once upon a time I 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:12.040 learned from an influencer. She was like, I was like, damn, bitch, 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.200 you be eating real good. Like where do you be going? 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:15.960 She's like, I'd be going to Google And I'm like 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:17.480 how do you do that? She's like, oh, yeah, yeah, 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.480 I just go to Google. I search whatever restaurant or 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.400 like really nice and you can actually look for it 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:26.720 like Instagram highlight food and the food whoever else took 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.560 the picture she would just screenshot and putting her into 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.880 story and it makes it look like she was eating it. 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:33.880 And I was like, you really weren't there. She's like, no, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:38.960 I was home. So now you can't trust it. You 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:43.280 cannot trust it may be showcasing this bougie life that 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.839 they really aren't living they you know, And I think 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.200 that that's fine to a certain extent because coming from 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.480 an artist, coming from an influencer myself, a celebrity of whatever, 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:53.920 the kids may be a public figure. I've done it, 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.960 you know, I've done it because part of this is 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.120 really what an artist is, besides the talent, because I 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:00.720 think that back in the day it was more about 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.760 the talent than it is now. It's about the illusion. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.920 The fantasy. It's a fantasy. I am going to showcase 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.840 you the lifestyle that you wish you could live, but 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.920 you can't, right because the financial because of whatever the 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.360 caids may be. So the artist gives you the illusion. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:19.760 All the luxury, the jewelry, the bags, the cars, the food. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.599 This that's why we follow these women, That's why we 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.159 follow these artists. They are here throwing money up in 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.479 the air, but when the camera's off, they're right there 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.920 picking it up, right, But you don't see that part. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.080 So it's kind of good because it's like, Wow, I 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.600 love this lifestyle when you perceive it, when you see it. 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.280 But it's bad because it also makes people feel as 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.599 if they have to live that same lifestyle, you know. 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.880 But at the same time, not necessarily all of it 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:46.800 is fake. I've seen a lot of people that made 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.840 a lot of money from social media and they are 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.520 creating a lifestyle for themselves. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.320 There's so much money to be made up for brand deals, 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:58.440 especially when you market yourself like you know, for me, 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.080 you know, I make it a decent amount of money 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.599 being an influencer, and you know, I'm very marketable to 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.360 like brands that are like Target Gap all those kind 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.479 of brands, right, you know, I'm very marketable to those 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:15.040 brands because of the way I present my image, you know, 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.080 And this is really who I am, you know what 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.960 I mean, Like this is cut dry children Conrad Davis 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.440 the second. So I've always worn the hats, I've always 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.520 you know, dressed really fly, I've always you know, said 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.200 what's on my mind. I've always been very adamant about 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.880 equal rights for everybody. It just so happened that I 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.080 was able to make money from it. And why not? 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.640 But in your case? In your case, because at the minute, 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.080 I don't know exactly how it works, right, But there's 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.080 so many people that are listening to you or looking 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:43.479 at you and like, you know what, I kind of 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:44.920 look like him, or I want to look like him. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:46.600 I want to do what he's doing. How do you 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.440 make money as an influencer? How does that even start? 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.359 Do you approach the companies, the companies approach you, Do 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.200 you have an agency the agency? Do they get a 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:57.839 commit because that's another thing. You may see that there's 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.400 a lot of money coming in, but do they get 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.400 a commission from it? How does the life of an 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.880 influencer for man work. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.200 I didn't get an agency until twenty seventeen, So prior 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:13.200 to that, from twenty twelve to twenty seventeen, I was 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.360 doing everything on my own. I was running my blog, 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.839 my Instagram, taking content, doing all this stuff. And honestly, 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.599 you know, I didn't even realize that I could get 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.599 paid off of doing the stuff I was doing until 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.200 I went to New York Men's Fashion Week in twenty 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.800 and sixteen and I met some of the men that 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.719 I idolized or like followed from, like you know the 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.640 same you know the same place that we're in, and 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.480 they were telling me, you know, like you must make 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.440 so much money. I'll say, I don't make anybody. I 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.760 was like, I'm still a I'm still a middle school 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.120 art teacher. I do this for fun. And all these 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.839 guys are making like hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.960 They put me on gain. They were like, no, you 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.719 need to tell this brand that you're not going to 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:55.640 do it unless they pay you X amount of dollars. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.600 I said, but what if they But like, what if 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.480 they say no? And he was like, well, did do it? 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.560 I was like, but I kind of want to free clothes, right, 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.800 And he basically was like, you got to stop doing 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.800 stuff for free clothing because that's the way that the 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:13.160 brand gets free marketing, and all they do is write 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.200 off the clothing that they gave to you as a gift. 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.239 Now we're also seeing a lot of the younger generation, 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.520 meaning like the little ones under fifteen or even under eighteen, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:34.200 who are creating this content and making millions of dollars. Like, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.680 for example, I saw these little I think that they're 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.080 from Australia, some little boys that are opening you know, 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:44.480 toys on YouTube and they're paying them millions of dollars 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.040 to showcase what the toys do. When all these other things. 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.480 It's great because you can create a brand for your 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.560 children or for themselves, and a bank account and you 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.840 can do all those things. But I also am starting 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.000 to see a lot of younger people, or a lot 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.200 of the girls and men now that don't I don't 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.880 want to work anymore. I don't want to go to college. 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.520 I don't care for an education, I don't care for 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.400 anything else. I want to be an influencer. I want 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.640 to be an influencer. I want to make money, and 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.480 that's all I'm going to do. And this is my life. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:16.160 If tomorrow social media were to disappear, which I truly 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.480 doubt it, but if it were to disappeared, then what 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.200 happened to you? Now? Because I saw that back then 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.000 during COVID, I think there was a point where Instagram 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.600 kind of got frozen, you know, for like I don't know, 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.480 maybe forty eight hours. It was just having a lot 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.400 of issues, and there was a girl who almost committed 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.880 suicide because she was so sick, she was sick to 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.600 her stomach to know that she couldn't go into her 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.440 social media to make money, because that's a way of 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.240 making money. This is really a lot of people's job. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.840 It's just social media. So I find how interesting it's 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.920 become how this device has completely changed the world and 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.400 the society that we live in from we are financially 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:00.920 dependent on it. We are consistently looking for validation based 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.200 off how many lights or comments you get. Marriages are 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.720 falling apart in many occasions because of this social media 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:11.640 platform we're now so Instagram, for example, has become a 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.600 menu of women. You could just pick whoever you want, 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.320 slid up in their gear and buy them a little 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:21.360 flight in many occasional little spirit right for sixty dollars, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.960 and now you can have whoever you want. Like, it's 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:27.160 such a it's a child, It's a gift that occurs, 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:28.199 don't you think. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.760 One hundred Yeah, it definitely is. It is definitely a 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:35.080 gift and occurs. I think it's especially with this younger generation, 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.480 it's more of a curse for them because you know, 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.640 we grew up in a time where we had you know, 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.679 the MySpace, and then you know, we also grew up 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.600 with CDs. We you know, we we we saw the 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:50.319 evolution of how technology. We you know, are know how 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.560 to live without it to a certain extent, right. But 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.120 this newer generation, it's a curse for them because not 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:01.120 only do they think that this is what reality is 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.240 number one. Number two is when you take it away 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.880 from them, they don't know how to exist. And that 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.200 to me is detrimental because when I, like, when I 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.000 take my cell phone away from both of my kids, 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:15.960 I'm like, you know, you can't have your cell phone, Like, 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.720 no more watching on the TV. We're gonna play scrabble. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.280 You would have think that I took everything away from them. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.120 You want to scrabble, I don't want to play scamp 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.559 Like what the heck? Y'all don't want to like spell 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.320 words together and have family time, and well, you don't 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.240 have this vibe you A lot of. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.280 People don't even know how to spell words anymore because 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:35.640 you have spell check, and. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:36.240 I am waste. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.720 I'm not even like sometimes I have to think really 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:42.640 hard because the phone has become so accessible that sometimes 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.400 I don't even have to write it out. As a 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.120 matter of fact, I could just talk to it and 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.720 it'll rate the whole paragraph sirih got my back. So 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.080 I feel like, yeah, it makes you smart in a way. 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.200 It also makes you dumb in a way, but it 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.600 is true. We're so caught up doing tiktoks, especially now, 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.480 all day everybody's out here being an influenced You're doing 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.400 tiktoks where you're no longer spending time with your family, 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.920 you're no longer doing physical activities. And I just feel like, 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.600 you know, like I said before, we were creating this 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:13.120 fantasy world that in many occasions is not true. But 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.320 when it financially has become so rewarding for so many people, 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.520 everybody wants to do the same. I am one of 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:24.000 those that social media, for example, kept me alive during Covida. 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.920 You know, there were so many brands and so many 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.200 other things that I was doing that it was like, 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.880 you know what, I'm just gonna do this, and that 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:39.760 was paying my bills and then some do you ever 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.240 think social media is going to disappear. The evolution of 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.600 Instagram and Twitter and TikTok. Do you think is ever 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.320 going to die away or is it going to evolve? 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.360 Like once upon a time we were in MySpace when 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.880 we thought that was the shit, and then we got Instagram. 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.760 It's like, so, do you think there'll be anything else 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:02.839 that is going to top this't. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.800 Know if anything else will top it. I do think 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.960 that there is going to be an awakening, and I 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.280 think the awakening is going to come whenever this generation 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.680 gets older and they have kids, okay, And I think 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:16.120 whatever they have their kids, I think what they're going 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.240 to implement in their households and how they raise their 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:23.120 kids is going to take away from what social media 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.760 is because they are going to see how much trauma 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.120 they had to go through from all of the you know, 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:33.280 trying to keep up with you know, body image, from bullying, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.480 from all these different things, and they're going to want 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.600 to protect their children from it. It's the same way 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.679 I feel as though, you know, when children used to 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:44.000 get spankings and now you know, people don't beat their 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:44.920 kids anymore. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.640 And I've also seen how like you know, a lot 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.400 of them, I think that the younger generation really gets 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.319 it because they're like the TikTokers. I'm not really the TikToker. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.000 I know there's a lot of people trying to get 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.120 hip and still be part of that, and that's fine too. 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.840 And now I feel like there's so many The involvement 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:01.720 of it was great when it was just one, but 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:05.640 then now we have Snapchat, Twitter, TikTok this, you know, 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.839 they got the There's so many different ones. It's hard 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.920 to keep up. And I don't know if visit that 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.160 I'm getting older. I can't manage all of them because 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.160 it's like, I'm posting this video here, but I gotta 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.040 go talk about it on Twitter here. But then my 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.920 other videos, my exclusive is on my Snapchat. But then 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.360 at the same time, I want to make sure that 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.440 my TikTok, my TikTok dancers over here see me dance. 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:29.040 It's like gom okays too much? Is it me? Or what? 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.080 No, it's not you. There's so many different platforms. Then 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.559 there's this new thing called be Real. Have you ever 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:35.040 heard of that? 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.079 Oh my gosh, no, what is that? 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.600 Okay? So be Real is like a social media app 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.920 and they market they're saying by saying we're not a 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.559 social media app. It basically it triggers you to take 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.880 a photo in real time. And what it does is 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.560 it takes a photo of you face the camera in 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:58.120 whatever is facing the camera simultaneously, and it's like you 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.520 add like a location to where you are, and it's 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.000 like be real. It's like be your authentic self. So 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.319 it's kind of like if you're like somewhere shopping for 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.679 flowers and you get like a notification on your phone 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.040 it's time to be real. You take it and you 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.160 step a photo of you buying flowers and you're like, 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.600 I'm getting flowers at Trader Joe's. Like you just post 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:18.880 like nobody. 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.680 Pas soccer ish. It sounds very like you know what 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:25.200 I'm going to let you know government exactly where I am, 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.840 which they're doing it regardless. But I just feel like 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:31.880 that may be too much information at Like, if you 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.120 pay attention to let's talk about this too, if you 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.760 pay attention to social media and the evolution of it, 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.640 let's also think that the government, which are you know, 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.520 strongly fighting about this TikTok thing, The government has a 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:49.200 big influence on what you're watching. When you're watching it, 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:53.000 and you know all this, you know, all around when 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.120 Instagram came, when they came up with the with the filter. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.200 Let's be clear on the fact that you're literally showcasing 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.240 right face identification. You thought originally we thought it was 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.240 a little flowers, you know, a little flowers in the 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:10.040 head on Snapchat when the first came out. Maam, Right, Now, 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:15.400 as you'll get older, they're capturing every single detail of 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.920 your face as you get older, and you are just 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.440 giving it to them. So you have that, you know, 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:25.120 now with this new app, you're giving them your location consistently. 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:29.320 They can track you consistently visually of where you're I'm 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.040 hoping you're not planning on doing anything crazy, but you 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.240 just never know who else also has access to that information. 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.360 So for security purposes, we also have to be a 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.520 little bit careful on the way that we use this, 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:41.000 don't we. 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.840 Of course, Yeah, you know, I've only used be real 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.760 like a couple of times, and it's usually it's usually 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.400 when I'm traveling. I don't do it when I'm here 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.400 in my home city because you know, I just you know, 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.480 I just don't know, like somebody could be like, oh well, 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.760 Covil was just said whole foods. I'm about to run 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.440 up on them, you know, saying God forbid if they did. 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.880 Now, talking about the evolution of social media, I also 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.400 want to get into something that has also become very 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.920 trendy and very popular. And as for example, only fans, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.200 only fans. Originally, to my understanding, came about just being 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.960 able to have exclusive content for the people that really 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.840 wanted to see your business, your art, what you were into, 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.520 exclusive content musically, whatever one thing led to the other, 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.080 and during the pandemic during COVID, it became a really like, 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.120 you know thing to you know what, let me just 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.200 not give you exclusive content of my music, my art 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.160 or what else I'm doing or business. Let me start 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.640 off with a little you know, bathing suit. That bathing 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.520 suit being sexy evolved into now it's a porn site 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.840 to me, right, shout out to everybody who's out there 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.960 making their money, because I know, I know a guest 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.160 that I had once upon a time who made over 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:01.960 like six hundred thousand dollars a month, right right, creating 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:06.280 OnlyFans content and people are there paying. And also when 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.640 you subscribe, unless you unsubscribe, your little you know, tenhty 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.200 nine and twenty dollars a month is coming out every month, 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.480 whether you watch or don't watch, or you forgot that 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.639 you follow this person that is consistently coming out, and 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.600 if you can find the correct marketing a company to 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:26.280 promote your brand, your page or whatever, you're making thousands 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.440 of dollars. And they were, by the way, reinvesting it 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:33.239 in real estate just to watch you naked. But it 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:36.000 went from you can be sexy, be who you are 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.560 to now it's all the way out here because this 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:44.080 is coming from your regular you know, employee, your regular teacher, 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.840 your regular uber driver who financially can't stay to float 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.520 and also wants to become an influencer. So being an 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:55.200 influencer now is not just you didn't educate yourself, or 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.399 you didn't study, you didn't prepare your there's no school 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:01.040 for just go out there and be funny, sing a song, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.439 create a dance, show your ass, I don't know, do 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.960 something and then now you yeah, and now you become 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:11.480 an influencer. Ken that's true, though, Should it just be 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:12.280 that easy? 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.040 No, it shouldn't. I mean I come from a time 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.520 where you know, I really had to put a digital 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:21.399 footprint in the ground to become no Torstda, or to 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.679 become Kelvin Davis, to have this notoriety, to have this 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.720 kind of popularity, like to be able to become an author, 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.480 all these things. I had to put a digital footprint 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.840 down that did not require me, you know, doing the 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.760 things that people have to do. Now now I will say, Omar, 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.960 I'm not a gonna cap I'm gonna be one hundred 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:44.080 percent with you. In October, I almost made it only fans. 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.920 I was hey, hey, hey, I'm gonna keep it a buck. 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.320 And the only reason why I did it was because 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.920 my lawyer was like, look, you're still in the middle 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.280 of your divorce litigation. That's not the best idea for 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.720 you to go on only fans and show you did 0:18:59.040 --> 0:18:59.960 I said, okay. 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.879 Listen, I thought about it too. Listen. At the end 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.159 of the day, everybody wants to financially be afloat. And 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:08.520 that's why social media has become such a thing, not 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.000 only because we have to think about influencer. You influence 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.480 the way that our culture moves. You know, your community 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:20.399 perceives you what's trendy, what's not financially is doing great 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.639 things for many people, not for all like, it keeps 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.879 growing and it keeps changing in different ways. And I 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.160 don't judge you if you do only fans. I thought 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:30.919 about it too. Shoot, I would have gotten me some 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:32.959 coins if I would. You know what I'm saying, Make 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.440 this booty come, you know. But then I also think 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:40.760 about how the internet keeps this information and maybe later 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.080 on in my lifetime when I you know, now, when 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.119 I have children and this and that, or if I 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.760 want to run for president no, no, get into the job. 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:50.920 How will the things that you do in your past, 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:53.479 how will the things that you do on social media 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.080 affect your future at the long run. And many times 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.480 you think like, oh, it doesn't matter sometimes haven't you 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.040 seen how they be Like oh, back in twenty fourteen, 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.840 you posted this and people can track it. 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:06.080 Yeah. 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:07.680