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Speaker 1: keeps baby on today's episode. You know what, this is
Speaker 1: such a juicy topic and we could talk about it
Speaker 1: all day because we won't be talking about influencers. Influencers,
Speaker 1: the evolution of influencers. How the hell did we get here?
Speaker 1: How do we get from like when we first came
Speaker 1: up with like MySpace, your top five friends and all
Speaker 1: this great stuff to all the way now where we
Speaker 1: have TikTokers and you know, little kids doing YouTube videos
Speaker 1: and making millions and millions of dollars, and just the
Speaker 1: way that the Internet and social media has evolved into
Speaker 1: the way than now people are creating careers and all
Speaker 1: that type of crazy stuff out of it. Arlene is
Speaker 1: my girl. She's in here today. Arlene, my love. How
Speaker 1: are you and what do you think about the whole
Speaker 1: social media influencer thing.
Speaker 2: This is a wild topic because, according to the Data
Speaker 2: Bridge Market Research, by twenty twenty nine, the influencer industry
Speaker 2: is gonna be worth sixty nine billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Way, why I better get myself in some of that.
Speaker 1: So we have a very special guest.
Speaker 3: Y'all may recognize his sexy voice. His name is Kelvin Davis.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be hopping on to help us out with
Speaker 3: his topic. He's a renowned social media expert an influencer himself.
Speaker 3: Y'all may know him from notoriously dapper Kelvin. You bring
Speaker 3: a wealth of knowledge and unique insights for this particular topic.
Speaker 3: Join us, bring on your energy and tell us how
Speaker 3: you feel about this topic.
Speaker 4: Right, let's get it. Thank you for having me again.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go ahead and start off by giving
Speaker 4: myself my old flowers. Okay, I am one of the
Speaker 4: I'm one of the ogs. I'm wanted the originators, like
Speaker 4: I'm talking to them like back twenty twelve. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We're talking about eleven years in the game. Okay,
Speaker 4: everybody wants to show the highlights, don't nobody want to
Speaker 4: talk about the realness of what they go through in life.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of non transparency.
Speaker 1: People be lying Yeah, I know, that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they be lying saying they got this and that
Speaker 4: and how they.
Speaker 1: Got it, And it's bologney. It's a fake perfection of
Speaker 1: a lifestyle that you really don't have. Why don't you
Speaker 1: talk about when you ain't got no money, you ain't
Speaker 1: got no gas money. Why don't you talk about you
Speaker 1: can't pay your bills? Why can't we because I know
Speaker 1: you when I discussed it in the past episode, Why
Speaker 1: can't you be vulnerable publicly without feeling like you're judging
Speaker 1: people to actually come and comfort you and just be
Speaker 1: part of a community, of a society where we're here
Speaker 1: for each other. Why can't we do that? You know?
Speaker 1: Why don't you say to that outfit that sauty you
Speaker 1: got on, you're gonna go back and return and get
Speaker 1: your money back. Why aren't we speaking the truth about it?
Speaker 1: And let me tell you Once upon a time I
Speaker 1: learned from an influencer. She was like, I was like, damn, bitch,
Speaker 1: you be eating real good. Like where do you be going?
Speaker 1: She's like, I'd be going to Google And I'm like
Speaker 1: how do you do that? She's like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just go to Google. I search whatever restaurant or
Speaker 1: like really nice and you can actually look for it
Speaker 1: like Instagram highlight food and the food whoever else took
Speaker 1: the picture she would just screenshot and putting her into
Speaker 1: story and it makes it look like she was eating it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you really weren't there. She's like, no,
Speaker 1: I was home. So now you can't trust it. You
Speaker 1: cannot trust it may be showcasing this bougie life that
Speaker 1: they really aren't living they you know, And I think
Speaker 1: that that's fine to a certain extent because coming from
Speaker 1: an artist, coming from an influencer myself, a celebrity of whatever,
Speaker 1: the kids may be a public figure. I've done it,
Speaker 1: you know, I've done it because part of this is
Speaker 1: really what an artist is, besides the talent, because I
Speaker 1: think that back in the day it was more about
Speaker 1: the talent than it is now. It's about the illusion.
Speaker 1: The fantasy. It's a fantasy. I am going to showcase
Speaker 1: you the lifestyle that you wish you could live, but
Speaker 1: you can't, right because the financial because of whatever the
Speaker 1: caids may be. So the artist gives you the illusion.
Speaker 1: All the luxury, the jewelry, the bags, the cars, the food.
Speaker 1: This that's why we follow these women, That's why we
Speaker 1: follow these artists. They are here throwing money up in
Speaker 1: the air, but when the camera's off, they're right there
Speaker 1: picking it up, right, But you don't see that part.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of good because it's like, Wow, I
Speaker 1: love this lifestyle when you perceive it, when you see it.
Speaker 1: But it's bad because it also makes people feel as
Speaker 1: if they have to live that same lifestyle, you know.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, not necessarily all of it
Speaker 1: is fake. I've seen a lot of people that made
Speaker 1: a lot of money from social media and they are
Speaker 1: creating a lifestyle for themselves.
Speaker 4: There's so much money to be made up for brand deals,
Speaker 4: especially when you market yourself like you know, for me,
Speaker 4: you know, I make it a decent amount of money
Speaker 4: being an influencer, and you know, I'm very marketable to
Speaker 4: like brands that are like Target Gap all those kind
Speaker 4: of brands, right, you know, I'm very marketable to those
Speaker 4: brands because of the way I present my image, you know,
Speaker 4: And this is really who I am, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like this is cut dry children Conrad Davis
Speaker 4: the second. So I've always worn the hats, I've always
Speaker 4: you know, dressed really fly, I've always you know, said
Speaker 4: what's on my mind. I've always been very adamant about
Speaker 4: equal rights for everybody. It just so happened that I
Speaker 4: was able to make money from it. And why not?
Speaker 1: But in your case? In your case, because at the minute,
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how it works, right, But there's
Speaker 1: so many people that are listening to you or looking
Speaker 1: at you and like, you know what, I kind of
Speaker 1: look like him, or I want to look like him.
Speaker 1: I want to do what he's doing. How do you
Speaker 1: make money as an influencer? How does that even start?
Speaker 1: Do you approach the companies, the companies approach you, Do
Speaker 1: you have an agency the agency? Do they get a
Speaker 1: commit because that's another thing. You may see that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of money coming in, but do they get
Speaker 1: a commission from it? How does the life of an
Speaker 1: influencer for man work.
Speaker 4: I didn't get an agency until twenty seventeen, So prior
Speaker 4: to that, from twenty twelve to twenty seventeen, I was
Speaker 4: doing everything on my own. I was running my blog,
Speaker 4: my Instagram, taking content, doing all this stuff. And honestly,
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't even realize that I could get
Speaker 4: paid off of doing the stuff I was doing until
Speaker 4: I went to New York Men's Fashion Week in twenty
Speaker 4: and sixteen and I met some of the men that
Speaker 4: I idolized or like followed from, like you know the
Speaker 4: same you know the same place that we're in, and
Speaker 4: they were telling me, you know, like you must make
Speaker 4: so much money. I'll say, I don't make anybody. I
Speaker 4: was like, I'm still a I'm still a middle school
Speaker 4: art teacher. I do this for fun. And all these
Speaker 4: guys are making like hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.
Speaker 4: They put me on gain. They were like, no, you
Speaker 4: need to tell this brand that you're not going to
Speaker 4: do it unless they pay you X amount of dollars.
Speaker 4: I said, but what if they But like, what if
Speaker 4: they say no? And he was like, well, did do it?
Speaker 4: I was like, but I kind of want to free clothes, right,
Speaker 4: And he basically was like, you got to stop doing
Speaker 4: stuff for free clothing because that's the way that the
Speaker 4: brand gets free marketing, and all they do is write
Speaker 4: off the clothing that they gave to you as a gift.
Speaker 1: Now we're also seeing a lot of the younger generation,
Speaker 1: meaning like the little ones under fifteen or even under eighteen,
Speaker 1: who are creating this content and making millions of dollars. Like,
Speaker 1: for example, I saw these little I think that they're
Speaker 1: from Australia, some little boys that are opening you know,
Speaker 1: toys on YouTube and they're paying them millions of dollars
Speaker 1: to showcase what the toys do. When all these other things.
Speaker 1: It's great because you can create a brand for your
Speaker 1: children or for themselves, and a bank account and you
Speaker 1: can do all those things. But I also am starting
Speaker 1: to see a lot of younger people, or a lot
Speaker 1: of the girls and men now that don't I don't
Speaker 1: want to work anymore. I don't want to go to college.
Speaker 1: I don't care for an education, I don't care for
Speaker 1: anything else. I want to be an influencer. I want
Speaker 1: to be an influencer. I want to make money, and
Speaker 1: that's all I'm going to do. And this is my life.
Speaker 1: If tomorrow social media were to disappear, which I truly
Speaker 1: doubt it, but if it were to disappeared, then what
Speaker 1: happened to you? Now? Because I saw that back then
Speaker 1: during COVID, I think there was a point where Instagram
Speaker 1: kind of got frozen, you know, for like I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe forty eight hours. It was just having a lot
Speaker 1: of issues, and there was a girl who almost committed
Speaker 1: suicide because she was so sick, she was sick to
Speaker 1: her stomach to know that she couldn't go into her
Speaker 1: social media to make money, because that's a way of
Speaker 1: making money. This is really a lot of people's job.
Speaker 1: It's just social media. So I find how interesting it's
Speaker 1: become how this device has completely changed the world and
Speaker 1: the society that we live in from we are financially
Speaker 1: dependent on it. We are consistently looking for validation based
Speaker 1: off how many lights or comments you get. Marriages are
Speaker 1: falling apart in many occasions because of this social media
Speaker 1: platform we're now so Instagram, for example, has become a
Speaker 1: menu of women. You could just pick whoever you want,
Speaker 1: slid up in their gear and buy them a little
Speaker 1: flight in many occasional little spirit right for sixty dollars,
Speaker 1: and now you can have whoever you want. Like, it's
Speaker 1: such a it's a child, It's a gift that occurs,
Speaker 1: don't you think.
Speaker 4: One hundred Yeah, it definitely is. It is definitely a
Speaker 4: gift and occurs. I think it's especially with this younger generation,
Speaker 4: it's more of a curse for them because you know,
Speaker 4: we grew up in a time where we had you know,
Speaker 4: the MySpace, and then you know, we also grew up
Speaker 4: with CDs. We you know, we we we saw the
Speaker 4: evolution of how technology. We you know, are know how
Speaker 4: to live without it to a certain extent, right. But
Speaker 4: this newer generation, it's a curse for them because not
Speaker 4: only do they think that this is what reality is
Speaker 4: number one. Number two is when you take it away
Speaker 4: from them, they don't know how to exist. And that
Speaker 4: to me is detrimental because when I, like, when I
Speaker 4: take my cell phone away from both of my kids,
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, you can't have your cell phone, Like,
Speaker 4: no more watching on the TV. We're gonna play scrabble.
Speaker 4: You would have think that I took everything away from them.
Speaker 4: You want to scrabble, I don't want to play scamp
Speaker 4: Like what the heck? Y'all don't want to like spell
Speaker 4: words together and have family time, and well, you don't
Speaker 4: have this vibe you A lot of.
Speaker 1: People don't even know how to spell words anymore because
Speaker 1: you have spell check, and.
Speaker 4: I am waste.
Speaker 1: I'm not even like sometimes I have to think really
Speaker 1: hard because the phone has become so accessible that sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't even have to write it out. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I could just talk to it and
Speaker 1: it'll rate the whole paragraph sirih got my back. So
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, it makes you smart in a way.
Speaker 1: It also makes you dumb in a way, but it
Speaker 1: is true. We're so caught up doing tiktoks, especially now,
Speaker 1: all day everybody's out here being an influenced You're doing
Speaker 1: tiktoks where you're no longer spending time with your family,
Speaker 1: you're no longer doing physical activities. And I just feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said before, we were creating this
Speaker 1: fantasy world that in many occasions is not true. But
Speaker 1: when it financially has become so rewarding for so many people,
Speaker 1: everybody wants to do the same. I am one of
Speaker 1: those that social media, for example, kept me alive during Covida.
Speaker 1: You know, there were so many brands and so many
Speaker 1: other things that I was doing that it was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna do this, and that
Speaker 1: was paying my bills and then some do you ever
Speaker 1: think social media is going to disappear. The evolution of
Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter and TikTok. Do you think is ever
Speaker 1: going to die away or is it going to evolve?
Speaker 1: Like once upon a time we were in MySpace when
Speaker 1: we thought that was the shit, and then we got Instagram.
Speaker 1: It's like, so, do you think there'll be anything else
Speaker 1: that is going to top this't.
Speaker 4: Know if anything else will top it. I do think
Speaker 4: that there is going to be an awakening, and I
Speaker 4: think the awakening is going to come whenever this generation
Speaker 4: gets older and they have kids, okay, And I think
Speaker 4: whatever they have their kids, I think what they're going
Speaker 4: to implement in their households and how they raise their
Speaker 4: kids is going to take away from what social media
Speaker 4: is because they are going to see how much trauma
Speaker 4: they had to go through from all of the you know,
Speaker 4: trying to keep up with you know, body image, from bullying,
Speaker 4: from all these different things, and they're going to want
Speaker 4: to protect their children from it. It's the same way
Speaker 4: I feel as though, you know, when children used to
Speaker 4: get spankings and now you know, people don't beat their
Speaker 4: kids anymore.
Speaker 1: And I've also seen how like you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of them, I think that the younger generation really gets
Speaker 1: it because they're like the TikTokers. I'm not really the TikToker.
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people trying to get
Speaker 1: hip and still be part of that, and that's fine too.
Speaker 1: And now I feel like there's so many The involvement
Speaker 1: of it was great when it was just one, but
Speaker 1: then now we have Snapchat, Twitter, TikTok this, you know,
Speaker 1: they got the There's so many different ones. It's hard
Speaker 1: to keep up. And I don't know if visit that
Speaker 1: I'm getting older. I can't manage all of them because
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm posting this video here, but I gotta
Speaker 1: go talk about it on Twitter here. But then my
Speaker 1: other videos, my exclusive is on my Snapchat. But then
Speaker 1: at the same time, I want to make sure that
Speaker 1: my TikTok, my TikTok dancers over here see me dance.
Speaker 1: It's like gom okays too much? Is it me? Or what?
Speaker 4: No, it's not you. There's so many different platforms. Then
Speaker 4: there's this new thing called be Real. Have you ever
Speaker 4: heard of that?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, no, what is that?
Speaker 4: Okay? So be Real is like a social media app
Speaker 4: and they market they're saying by saying we're not a
Speaker 4: social media app. It basically it triggers you to take
Speaker 4: a photo in real time. And what it does is
Speaker 4: it takes a photo of you face the camera in
Speaker 4: whatever is facing the camera simultaneously, and it's like you
Speaker 4: add like a location to where you are, and it's
Speaker 4: like be real. It's like be your authentic self. So
Speaker 4: it's kind of like if you're like somewhere shopping for
Speaker 4: flowers and you get like a notification on your phone
Speaker 4: it's time to be real. You take it and you
Speaker 4: step a photo of you buying flowers and you're like,
Speaker 4: I'm getting flowers at Trader Joe's. Like you just post
Speaker 4: like nobody.
Speaker 1: Pas soccer ish. It sounds very like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm going to let you know government exactly where I am,
Speaker 1: which they're doing it regardless. But I just feel like
Speaker 1: that may be too much information at Like, if you
Speaker 1: pay attention to let's talk about this too, if you
Speaker 1: pay attention to social media and the evolution of it,
Speaker 1: let's also think that the government, which are you know,
Speaker 1: strongly fighting about this TikTok thing, The government has a
Speaker 1: big influence on what you're watching. When you're watching it,
Speaker 1: and you know all this, you know, all around when
Speaker 1: Instagram came, when they came up with the with the filter.
Speaker 1: Let's be clear on the fact that you're literally showcasing
Speaker 1: right face identification. You thought originally we thought it was
Speaker 1: a little flowers, you know, a little flowers in the
Speaker 1: head on Snapchat when the first came out. Maam, Right, Now,
Speaker 1: as you'll get older, they're capturing every single detail of
Speaker 1: your face as you get older, and you are just
Speaker 1: giving it to them. So you have that, you know,
Speaker 1: now with this new app, you're giving them your location consistently.
Speaker 1: They can track you consistently visually of where you're I'm
Speaker 1: hoping you're not planning on doing anything crazy, but you
Speaker 1: just never know who else also has access to that information.
Speaker 1: So for security purposes, we also have to be a
Speaker 1: little bit careful on the way that we use this,
Speaker 1: don't we.
Speaker 4: Of course, Yeah, you know, I've only used be real
Speaker 4: like a couple of times, and it's usually it's usually
Speaker 4: when I'm traveling. I don't do it when I'm here
Speaker 4: in my home city because you know, I just you know,
Speaker 4: I just don't know, like somebody could be like, oh well,
Speaker 4: Covil was just said whole foods. I'm about to run
Speaker 4: up on them, you know, saying God forbid if they did.
Speaker 1: Now, talking about the evolution of social media, I also
Speaker 1: want to get into something that has also become very
Speaker 1: trendy and very popular. And as for example, only fans,
Speaker 1: only fans. Originally, to my understanding, came about just being
Speaker 1: able to have exclusive content for the people that really
Speaker 1: wanted to see your business, your art, what you were into,
Speaker 1: exclusive content musically, whatever one thing led to the other,
Speaker 1: and during the pandemic during COVID, it became a really like,
Speaker 1: you know thing to you know what, let me just
Speaker 1: not give you exclusive content of my music, my art
Speaker 1: or what else I'm doing or business. Let me start
Speaker 1: off with a little you know, bathing suit. That bathing
Speaker 1: suit being sexy evolved into now it's a porn site
Speaker 1: to me, right, shout out to everybody who's out there
Speaker 1: making their money, because I know, I know a guest
Speaker 1: that I had once upon a time who made over
Speaker 1: like six hundred thousand dollars a month, right right, creating
Speaker 1: OnlyFans content and people are there paying. And also when
Speaker 1: you subscribe, unless you unsubscribe, your little you know, tenhty
Speaker 1: nine and twenty dollars a month is coming out every month,
Speaker 1: whether you watch or don't watch, or you forgot that
Speaker 1: you follow this person that is consistently coming out, and
Speaker 1: if you can find the correct marketing a company to
Speaker 1: promote your brand, your page or whatever, you're making thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars. And they were, by the way, reinvesting it
Speaker 1: in real estate just to watch you naked. But it
Speaker 1: went from you can be sexy, be who you are
Speaker 1: to now it's all the way out here because this
Speaker 1: is coming from your regular you know, employee, your regular teacher,
Speaker 1: your regular uber driver who financially can't stay to float
Speaker 1: and also wants to become an influencer. So being an
Speaker 1: influencer now is not just you didn't educate yourself, or
Speaker 1: you didn't study, you didn't prepare your there's no school
Speaker 1: for just go out there and be funny, sing a song,
Speaker 1: create a dance, show your ass, I don't know, do
Speaker 1: something and then now you yeah, and now you become
Speaker 1: an influencer. Ken that's true, though, Should it just be
Speaker 1: that easy?
Speaker 4: No, it shouldn't. I mean I come from a time
Speaker 4: where you know, I really had to put a digital
Speaker 4: footprint in the ground to become no Torstda, or to
Speaker 4: become Kelvin Davis, to have this notoriety, to have this
Speaker 4: kind of popularity, like to be able to become an author,
Speaker 4: all these things. I had to put a digital footprint
Speaker 4: down that did not require me, you know, doing the
Speaker 4: things that people have to do. Now now I will say, Omar,
Speaker 4: I'm not a gonna cap I'm gonna be one hundred
Speaker 4: percent with you. In October, I almost made it only fans.
Speaker 4: I was hey, hey, hey, I'm gonna keep it a buck.
Speaker 4: And the only reason why I did it was because
Speaker 4: my lawyer was like, look, you're still in the middle
Speaker 4: of your divorce litigation. That's not the best idea for
Speaker 4: you to go on only fans and show you did
Speaker 4: I said, okay.
Speaker 1: Listen, I thought about it too. Listen. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, everybody wants to financially be afloat. And
Speaker 1: that's why social media has become such a thing, not
Speaker 1: only because we have to think about influencer. You influence
Speaker 1: the way that our culture moves. You know, your community
Speaker 1: perceives you what's trendy, what's not financially is doing great
Speaker 1: things for many people, not for all like, it keeps
Speaker 1: growing and it keeps changing in different ways. And I
Speaker 1: don't judge you if you do only fans. I thought
Speaker 1: about it too. Shoot, I would have gotten me some
Speaker 1: coins if I would. You know what I'm saying, Make
Speaker 1: this booty come, you know. But then I also think
Speaker 1: about how the internet keeps this information and maybe later
Speaker 1: on in my lifetime when I you know, now, when
Speaker 1: I have children and this and that, or if I
Speaker 1: want to run for president no, no, get into the job.
Speaker 1: How will the things that you do in your past,
Speaker 1: how will the things that you do on social media
Speaker 1: affect your future at the long run. And many times
Speaker 1: you think like, oh, it doesn't matter sometimes haven't you
Speaker 1: seen how they be Like oh, back in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: you posted this and people can track it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we have to be a little bit careful too,
Speaker 1: with what type of content, what type of information we're
Speaker 1: putting out there. But I do say social media is growing,
Speaker 1: is evalding. It is becoming better for some, worse for others.
Speaker 1: We become quo dependent on it in many ways. I
Speaker 1: hope it never dies out because I need this shoe.
Speaker 1: I'm making some coins right there too, snap. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but we have to be careful though, we
Speaker 1: have to be careful Andy. You know what, how about
Speaker 1: this covin? What can the people take home with this conversation?
Speaker 1: What would be your advice or the wrap up for
Speaker 1: you for this conversation today?
Speaker 4: I would say for them, you know, to take a
Speaker 4: social media break. It's like it is okay for you
Speaker 4: to sometimes put the phone down or put the tablet
Speaker 4: away and go live your old life. I mean, I
Speaker 4: took a social media break a couple months ago, and
Speaker 4: it was very liberating for me. It was very liberating,
Speaker 4: you know, because you forget of about how sometimes people
Speaker 4: forget how to interact with the outside world because they're
Speaker 4: too consumed on the inside world on their phone. Because
Speaker 4: half the things that you would say on this phone,
Speaker 4: you would never say to somebody face to face. Ain't
Speaker 4: nobody that damn brave. Ain't no man in the world
Speaker 4: that brave to go to go up to a woman
Speaker 4: and send what you said in a DM face to
Speaker 4: face You ain't you? Ain't that cold? Brother? You ain't
Speaker 4: that cold?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah. And it gives people this false sense of confidence too,
Speaker 4: because it's like, in the real world, you not about
Speaker 4: that you're not about to go up to her and
Speaker 4: say that. You're not going to go to him and
Speaker 4: say that. But behind these little fingers you'll say and
Speaker 4: do whatever you want to because the chances that you
Speaker 4: running into them in public unplanned is highly unlikely. Right,
Speaker 4: So I really encourage people to find confidence within themselves
Speaker 4: and not through social media, and really don't look at
Speaker 4: social media as the end all be all to how
Speaker 4: everybody lives, because that's the everybody living.
Speaker 1: You know what. I love that you said that, and
Speaker 1: you know what, that's where you can take home. Take
Speaker 1: that home. Okay. By the way, if anybody wants to
Speaker 1: follow you, check you out where and they go think.
Speaker 4: Can you find me on Instagram at Kelvin Davis, Facebook
Speaker 4: at no Torsi Dapper, no torsideper dot com.
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