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Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, Blowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, presented

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Speaker 1: by Windstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. It's Friday. Welcome To's WBC Morgan's living

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Speaker 1: room at Frisco, Texas. Thank you, Wing Stop, another episode

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Speaker 1: of this award winning show, Hanging with the Boys. Shannon Gross, Jessey,

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and do we have a treat

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Speaker 1: for you guys. Guys In the second segment, we will

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Speaker 1: have an Emmy nominated interview with Layton vander ash By

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Speaker 1: our own Kurt Daniels and none of us have seen

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Speaker 1: this interview, so we don't know what we're getting into,

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Speaker 1: So make sure you stay tuned because we will be

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Speaker 1: watching it for the first time as well. Oh, how

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Speaker 1: are we feeling today? It's Friday? How you guys feeling? Man?

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Speaker 1: Tell you what for? We two days out from a

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Speaker 1: Cowboys victory. Lord has been long, it has been hall

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Speaker 1: but It's gonna be earned, baby. Two days out from

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Speaker 1: a cow Boys victory. Hop God is dope for what

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Speaker 1: Jesse says, So we gotta hope God is dope and

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Speaker 1: we need a lot victory. Yes, sir, Cowboys gotta this one.

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Speaker 1: Man's just they don't win this one. Just throw it

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Speaker 1: in the towel you cover. You're getting to be a

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Speaker 1: Debbie Dowter Broight one. You know what, I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: surprised if they lose this week. It's a trap game, Shannon,

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Speaker 1: got to be stopping trap. Stop it. Yeah, trap Shannon.

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Speaker 1: You actually have to be good to make it a

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Speaker 1: trap game. Like you. The team has to be good

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Speaker 1: like your Your team a good team in order to

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Speaker 1: be a trap game. This is Amriti. Cooper is good.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, he is. You know, Citee Lamb is good.

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Speaker 1: They ain't playing defense all right, let me ask you.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get into it. Kurt sent us a group

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Speaker 1: text yesterday and it all kinds. I think we're all

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Speaker 1: still trying to process it. Nate called me and we

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Speaker 1: had a long discussion about it. Kurt, what did you

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Speaker 1: send us yesterday? And I want to get everyone's thoughts

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Speaker 1: was a tweet John Machada from The Athletic put out

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Speaker 1: that that coach Mark McCarthy had addressed the team's effort

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Speaker 1: and that I think Jaylon Smith had responded that, you

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Speaker 1: know a couple of guys did Jalen Smith and Zekie

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Speaker 1: La both responded that yes, the coach did talk to

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Speaker 1: them about effort. It's not something he should be having

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Speaker 1: to do. YadA YadA, YadA, that sort of thing. I

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Speaker 1: a little bit of surprise. Maybe that's that's my question

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Speaker 1: This is just the first time that it's being brought

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Speaker 1: up in the media, right, Nate, Jesse, Nathaniel. Okay, first

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Speaker 1: of all, when you read that story, when you first

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Speaker 1: read that story, Kurt, and you just repeated it to us,

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Speaker 1: did Zeke and Jay Let's say YadA YadA YadA, because

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Speaker 1: I got from that was all coach did was YadA

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Speaker 1: yah yah yeah. Well we've been seeing this for thirty weeks.

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Speaker 1: We've been seeing this for thirteen weeks, our lack of

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you speak YadA YadA YadA. That's all

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Speaker 1: how I sound. That's how sound thirteen weeks later. That

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Speaker 1: YadA YadA. Jesse made it all he got, he got,

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Speaker 1: just thought. I don't want to be reassigned. I don't

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I said, you might will

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Speaker 1: This is a show where we need your voice. You're

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Speaker 1: your This is self preservation, guys, that's the one that

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Speaker 1: and didn't respond. But here's the thing, and Nate, you

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Speaker 1: and I we've we've elaborated on this many times before.

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Speaker 1: We should never have to talk about effort when it

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Speaker 1: talk about effort. You get paid to play a child's

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Speaker 1: gonna say effort, but effort. You don't have to say.

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Speaker 1: become the medicine for other teams. If you're not going

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Speaker 1: Now during the game, we would have different guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: because you were talking to a bunch of rude, obnoxious,

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Speaker 1: love the challenge honestly. UM, I want to be put

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00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: in a difficult situation because I know that makes me better. Um.

426
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: If if everything was easier, if or if the majority

427
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: of the game was easy, um, you would probably start

428
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: to slough off and and and you wouldn't start gaining

429
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: ground or improving at all. Um. And with the time

430
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: I missed the last season and even the beginning of

431
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: this season, it was it's been tough but um, I

432
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: mean you learn to embrace that challenge I have and

433
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: um and enjoy it. It's all part. It's all part

434
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: of the process. You got to trust God's plan for

435
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: for what he has going for you, and I think, um,

436
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: that's just what I've been trying to do. And so

437
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: just just being a leader, um, taking on that challenge,

438
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: embracing it and showing the guys like, hey, I'm here

439
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: for all you guys, and and and I'm gonna I'm

440
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: gonna do my best for you guys, and I'm gonna

441
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: go all out on game day. Much of that challenge

442
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: is the physical part of it, just the you know,

443
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: having the talent to be where you need to be

444
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: in that sort of thing. And how much of it

445
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: is the mental part of it, where the communication, the leadership,

446
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: that aspect of it. Yeah, I mean you train all offseason.

447
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean you train a lot of off season physically

448
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: to get to get your body ready for the season.

449
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: So a lot of that work is already done and

450
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: then once again the season you're kind of just maintaining

451
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 1: obviously because it's harder game strength at that point. But

452
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: the mental part really kicks in and you got to

453
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: you gotta really focus on that aspect of the game.

454
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: Once you get into the season, and that part really

455
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: takes off, and you got to keep up with that

456
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: because it's it's not like you're playing the same team

457
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: every week. You have new challenges, and I mean there

458
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: there are some copycat teams and they do some copycat

459
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: schemes and and everybody's gonna do some of the similar stuff,

460
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: but they all have their own little twist to it.

461
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: So if you the quicker, you can point those things out,

462
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: and the quicker you can get on top of that

463
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: and make sure we could practice easier and you can

464
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: really just start focusing on your keys on the practice

465
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: field to keep going. I think most people probably know

466
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: your story. It's pretty incredible starting out at eight man

467
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: football such a small town. But you you've kind of

468
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: said that that eight man football may have helped you

469
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: prepare because it you know, it was a wide open game,

470
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, finding the ball care and playing offense too.

471
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't really help you as far as

472
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: getting where you are now. I mean some people might

473
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: say I'm crazy for saying that, but they're ones that

474
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: didn't play amen football. So I mean the ones that

475
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: know no. Um, and I'm gonna go to bat for

476
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: for all those kids that are playing amen football and

477
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: I grew up doing that. Um. I mean they need

478
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: to follow their dreams because they can do it. Just

479
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: because you play a man football, I don't mean anything. Um.

480
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: I mean it makes you an all around athlete. You

481
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: can do multiple things. Um heck. I mean if you

482
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: got injuries on your team, you move to the next

483
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: position and you help your team out. That's just what

484
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: it is. So I think that makes you valuable as

485
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: an athlete. It helps you grow as an athlete and

486
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: you start to understand the pieces of the game, regardless

487
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: of whether you're missing three people on offense and three

488
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: people on defense. Yeah. Yeah, and you were the star quarterback.

489
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: Do you ever miss uh miss the offensive side of

490
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: the ball getting the dwat around will bit? Oh yeah.

491
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of got that out of my

492
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: system pretty quick once I started playing in college. Um.

493
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: But I mean I love quarterback, I always will. Um.

494
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: But I mean there's another thing about a linebacker. You're

495
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the defense. So um, it's it's its

496
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: own challenge in itself, and you gotta take pride in that. Well.

497
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: It sounds like that with with your three sisters were

498
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: big into basketball and you were a stud basketball player

499
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: when a couple of state championships? Was was basketball actually

500
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: kind of king in your household growing up? Um, if

501
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: you probably would have talked to majority people, if you

502
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: asked ten people that knew me, they nine ten probably

503
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: would have chose me to pick play basketball in college

504
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: and then football. Um, but I always wanted to play

505
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: football boys State, and I got the opportunity to walk

506
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: on there because I didn't have any d one offers.

507
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: So um, that was just it was automatic for me,

508
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: and I knew I could make the most out of

509
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: that if I went and did that. But basketball was definitely,

510
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: um a big part of my family's life. All my

511
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: sisters played, and and that was some of my favorite

512
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: moments growing up as a kid and being their little brother,

513
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: watching them playing high school and then go on to

514
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: college and play, and just watching them win state championships

515
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: and and just doing what they loved. And so they

516
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: they they had an absolute blast doing that, and I

517
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: had had an absolute blast watching them, um, and so

518
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: just following in their shoes. UM, I learned so much

519
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: from them, and I love every single one of them.

520
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 1: And so I just can't thank them enough for for

521
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: kind of just teaching me the way butt heads a

522
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: little bit with on the way when we were younger.

523
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: But and growing up with three other sisters ain't easy

524
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: by any means. Oh yeah, but were you the annoying

525
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: little brother agged along to uh to the gym and

526
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: all that sort of thing? Oh gosh, I would like

527
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: to not think so, but uh, I mean you have

528
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: to ask them. I think they I think they enjoyed

529
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: having me if if we were going to the gym

530
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: and some basketball they were. They always taught me stuff

531
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: and and I think they enjoyed having me around in

532
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: that aspect. But I'm sure I got a little annoying

533
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: at times, um as any younger sibling probably would. But um,

534
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean we were we were all pretty close growing up. Yeah.

535
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: Now they were again three older sisters. They were a

536
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: bit older than you. I think you're six years younger

537
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: than your youngest sister. I guess were you uh were you?

538
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: Were you uh, you know, doated on? Were you spoiled?

539
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: Or were you that they're kind of guinea pig to

540
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: pick on and dress up and do all those such

541
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: little things. A little brothers get handed. Uh. I was spoiled.

542
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Um, Yeah, I was spoiled. And

543
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: I think I think they would probably all say that too. Um.

544
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: But I mean at the time, I didn't want to

545
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: admit it, but now I looked back and I'm like, yeah,

546
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: I probably was spoiled quite a bit. But they spoiled

547
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: me too. Um. Yeah, I mean it was it was

548
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: all just funny games. And like I said, I mean

549
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: sometimes we got into it and yeah, they would throw

550
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: that in my face, that oh you're spoiled and you

551
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: just get whatever you want. But that's just what siblings do. Sure. Sure,

552
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: So you never really gave a thought too. I mean,

553
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: I imagine you had some some offers to some smaller schools.

554
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: You you never gave serious thought to going as a

555
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: quarterback or going as a basketball player to a smaller school.

556
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 1: I did, I did. Um. I had way more offers

557
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: to play basketball than I did football. Um. And then

558
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: all my football offers were all an Ai a smaller schools. Um.

559
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: But I grew up watching Boisi State and going to

560
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: a lot of their games with my friends and and

561
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: with my high school coach, and he coached me all

562
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: the way through elementary, junior high, in high school and

563
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: in football, UM and I played with his two younger boys.

564
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: One was a year older than me and one was

565
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: a year younger, and so we became really close, and

566
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: UM I went to a lot of the boys state

567
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: games with them and got really familiar with boys and

568
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: just being two and a half hours north, it was

569
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: that's where I wanted to play. So when I got

570
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: the opportunity to go there and walk on, it was

571
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: like not There was not even a doubt in my

572
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: mind that that, um, I couldn't go in there and

573
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: then a scholarship, and I just knew that if I

574
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: followed my roots and the way um the way I

575
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: handled myself and and just went in there and and

576
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: competed every single day and worked my hardest, that things

577
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: would work out. And I knew that would give me

578
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: the best shot to go on and live my dream

579
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: playing in the National Football League, And so I just

580
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: did everything I could make that happen. Yeah. I was

581
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: reading something, Charlie Shepard, that was your high school coach, right,

582
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: I was reading some about him. Sounds like you know

583
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: what you think of eight man coach in the in

584
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: the middle of Idaho, But you know what kind of

585
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: scene was Avid. It sounds like he really was a

586
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: big impact on you in your life there absolutely. I

587
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: mean we still talk about football to this day, and

588
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: he coached there for they won two state championships after

589
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: I left her off the bat, or maybe it was three, um,

590
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: But I mean he's a great football coach, and he

591
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: understands football. And growing up with his two boys that

592
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: were like my best friends growing up, and I still

593
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: stay in contact with both of them very very much.

594
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: That was evident that he knew what he was doing

595
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: and he could get everybody and he could use and

596
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: put things in the right pieces or pieces in the

597
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: right places when it came to game day or depending

598
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: a year, because I mean you would you would think

599
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: that you would lose some of your best players, and

600
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: with a man football, you don't have a lot to

601
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: pick from. Um. But I mean he kept that thing

602
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: going right away and and never really stepped off. And

603
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: and he coached I don't even know he coached, he

604
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: coached forever, um, But I mean he's he's awesome, and

605
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: I know that he definitely had a big impact on

606
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: on my career. Like I said, I couldn't play football

607
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: till I was in sixth grade and junior high So

608
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: the first chance I got it was I was all

609
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: over it. And then it was just year by year

610
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: and just going up from there. Yeah, he said an interview,

611
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: I saw that he never really had any doubt that

612
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: you could play at the next level. But I gotta wonder,

613
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, you you walk on to a big D

614
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: one school, big program, and you were probably it sounds

615
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: like a little undersized at the time. Did you kind

616
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: of wonder like, Wow, what have I got myself into? Um?

617
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: At first? Yeah, I mean Ilo, my linebacker coach at

618
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: Boise State, and the decordinator. I mean, he kind of

619
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: found me. He showed up at high school one day

620
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: and I got called to the office, and I was thinking,

621
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think I did anything wrong,

622
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: Like why am I getting called to the office. So

623
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: I stepped out in the hall and I saw a

624
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: guy down at the end of the hallway by the office,

625
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: dressed in blue with his boy gear on, and I

626
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: was thinking myself. I was like, there's no way this

627
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: can be happening right now. And the first things he

628
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: said to me, he was like he introduced himself and

629
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: was like, we don't know very much about you, but

630
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 1: people are talking about you in the valley and saying

631
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: that we need to come get you. So he gave

632
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: me brochure to their camp and invited me there so

633
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: they could get me on the field and see me

634
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: run around a little bit. And then I had to

635
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: make a highlight film and send him some film from

636
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: high school from high school ball, and then they offered

637
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: me a walk on after my senior year a football

638
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: and I took that right away. But he saw something

639
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: to me, and as much as I wanted to play quarterback,

640
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: he was like, no, you're gonna you're gonna play. You're

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Speaker 1: technical difficulties, so it was just myself, Nate and Jesse

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Speaker 1: we're only left with a few minutes here fellas to

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Speaker 1: give our in depth breakdown of the Cincinnati Bengals. So

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Speaker 1: I guess what do you guys? Back to Sunday? What

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Speaker 1: do you what do you expect? Him to say, what

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Speaker 1: do you think of the Cowboys can do against the Bingals.

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Speaker 1: I'll be quick, Jess. The Bengals did not have a

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Speaker 1: running game, but they're playing the Dallas Cowboys, so they

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Speaker 1: Bernard number twenty five, GEO tar Hill, Jill Vanny, Jill

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Speaker 1: Vanni Bernard. He is a nice running back when handing

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Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield, but he is an

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Speaker 1: excellent receiver coming out of the backfield. So for us

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Speaker 1: have some success this week, we have to slow him down.

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Speaker 1: Out of the guys outside, I'll let Jesse were about,

741
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Speaker 1: but this guy here is a game changing if you

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Speaker 1: can get him that ball in open space. So we

743
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Speaker 1: have to tackle well. And somehow somewhere I said it

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Speaker 1: the other day that I said again, we have to

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Speaker 1: control the middle of the field, whether this versus the pass.

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Speaker 1: We have the deconse, have to control the medal. We

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Speaker 1: gotta do what we gotta do. What the middle of

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Speaker 1: the round thirty seven thirty seven thirty almost twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: literally almost child, look at the middle of our run chart.

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Speaker 1: Man slashing us man in the middle of our field.

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Speaker 1: It's between the numbers. Man look at the runs this year.

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Speaker 1: I'm being honest. If you don't control the middle of

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Speaker 1: the se we're not gonna even be competitive. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: not late. I'm not laughing at you. I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 1: I that you think in week fourteen that all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden you ain't right, man, you ain't right. The

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Speaker 1: coach just gave a hell of the speech about being

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Speaker 1: the effort. It's gonna come or not right, the effort

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Speaker 1: will shine. Y y'all are not you're not believing? Tie

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Speaker 1: our shirt now we all laugh. They said, there do

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Speaker 1: you think? They said? They said, we got a cover

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Speaker 1: of running back to space. They said to them on

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Speaker 1: the field, what makes you believe that in week fourteen

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Speaker 1: that I believe Staff Baltimore had more thirty yard runs

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Speaker 1: in that game than Zake has in the last three years.

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Speaker 1: C don't join you, Jesse, don't Jesse. Come on? They said,

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Speaker 1: oh man, you really got me a tea. But all

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Speaker 1: of us to be competitive. I ain't said win the game,

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Speaker 1: but all of us to be competitive. I'm gonna be quiet.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead on what amos? Come on? No, because they

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Speaker 1: they you you've come to the point where you're saying

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about winning the game. I just want

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Speaker 1: us to be competitive, Like you're talking about the team.

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Speaker 1: We've lost all hope about winning football game. We're to

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Speaker 1: the point now. This is I'm not fake laughing, this

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Speaker 1: is real laughing. I'm crying because we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: NFL team here, and we're we're wishing and hoping for

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Speaker 1: things in week thirteen that should have been established in

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Speaker 1: the preseason. This should have been established in the first

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. And so we still can't cover backs

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Speaker 1: out of the back field. What do we face a

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Speaker 1: back who's really good out of the back field as

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Speaker 1: a receiver. We can't control the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you, Nate, I guarantee you a Ribby that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna run the ball up the middle of the field.

786
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Speaker 1: And then, uh, we're talking about the guys and the

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Speaker 1: outside Te Higgins and Tyler Boyd. Good luck, good luck,

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Speaker 1: good luck. This is the best true duel. This is

789
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: good last true duo we've pad faced all year. I'm

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00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: talking about yardage and touchdowns. Yeah, I mean they have

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Speaker 1: performed weekend and week out great. I don't know I

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Speaker 1: would say the best. I talk production wise, yardage, touchdown

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Speaker 1: production wise, they have been the best. I think, well,

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Speaker 1: go back and look at the other I mean other guys.

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Speaker 1: I've gotten better Minnesota reason went on, but they have

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Speaker 1: they But I'm talking about that at this point? Is

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Speaker 1: this department? Department? Did I make it? Did I make it?

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Speaker 1: Back for the end of the show, Yeah, you made

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Speaker 1: was just you know what I did. I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to listen to that terrible ass interview Kurt did so

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Speaker 1: I just said, hey, good but good interview kid. Y'all judging, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I had I put out good effort. Man, I was

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Speaker 1: on my I was going Bolston the wall. There you're

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Speaker 1: judging and watching. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. All about practice.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about effort. Oh, let's make our picks, fellas,

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Speaker 1: Let's let's make all right. I'm ready, man, I am ready.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I got since Cincinnati twenty four Cowboys seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I think Cowboys are winning this one. I'll take it

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Speaker 1: twenty one seventeen. Nick Newton, I ga roll as Charles

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Speaker 1: Blockley will say, I gall roll t. We win this

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Speaker 1: thing by seven points. I gallroll right, yes, sir, don't

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Speaker 1: you laugh at me. Jesse I'm laughing with you. My

813
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Speaker 1: brother never asked you. I was with you, chanting you there,

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Speaker 1: you're picking. Yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys twenty eight Cincinnati twenty one. And here's my reasoning

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Speaker 1: in the words of Nate Newton, because if the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: don't win, it don't matter. It don't matter, The rest

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Speaker 1: of the season don't matter. So I'm gonna pick them

819
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Speaker 1: just so it matters. And you know what, I think

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Speaker 1: the offense. I think the offense is doing a pretty

821
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: darn good job. I think Andy Dalton is gonna have

822
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: a really good game. It's all gonna come down to

823
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: the defense. Can they stop them? Are they gonna show up?

824
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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna show up first enough to squeak

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Speaker 1: out a game against a bad Cincinnati. I think it's

826
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Speaker 1: a battle of the bads, and I think Cincinnati's more

827
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: bad than the Cowboys are bad. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: Cowboys twenty seven, twenty one. We're gonna travel all the

829
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Speaker 1: way to Ohio to be bad, Loyd. This will be

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Speaker 1: the game where we've come back next year and say,

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Speaker 1: where did the Cowboys turning around against Cincinnati? And then

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Speaker 1: the Lord. Hey, I like I like the I like

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Speaker 1: the wardrobe changes. Fellas, that's nice. I like it. I

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Speaker 1: like it. That's good. All right, let's let's let's break,

835
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: let's go home, let's get out of here, all right, fellas,

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Speaker 1: good jes, you can say what you want this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we churn the faith of the Dallas Cowboys. Yes, thanks

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Speaker 1: for baks right here. Have fun on your next show.

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Speaker 1: We will see y'all Monday. Victory Monday in the Count's

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