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Ralph, New York State, Yes, sir, how 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: can I help you? Thank you for waiting there so patiently. 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: What's going on. 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we took a pause. Hey, ron, I got a 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: few issues with my twenty seventeen jeep wrangler. It's a 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: four door. I got intermittent kind of sticky steering. Can 25 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: you hear me? 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Okay, yep, sure, great? 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: Uh so, yes, the steering gets hard and then it 28 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: kind of comes and goes. You know, I had them 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: like lubricate the universal joint that comes off the steering 30 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 3: shaft right, and you know, I'm gonna I just my 31 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 3: main concern is is it a mode of failure? What 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: I will I lose steering? What is it like on too? 33 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: Is it total blocks? 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it when when they lubed it, And 35 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: before I ask you how they lubed it, did did 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: any of what they did have any effect on it? 37 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: Did it make it better or it just stayed the same. 38 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: It did make it better, seemed like it temporarily got better. 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna see if they can throw some molly or 40 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: some Lucas like White Lithian Greece or something like that 41 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: on it. Well next time. 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: Actually, what I'd like to I'd like to see him 43 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: do is you know what's going on here then? Because 44 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: there's a hundred ways to go with this. This is 45 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: this an electric steering ract, you know this should be 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: there should be electric assist as far as the steering 47 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: is concerning, probably, right, does it take Did they talk 48 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: to you about special poa steering fluid, electro hydraulic para 49 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: steering fluid? Did they say it probably has that? So 50 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: let's go on that assumption. But but let's back up. 51 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: Replaced like everything from the cool end to the brake 52 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: fluid to steering. 53 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah no, it's not. Yeah no, that's not where I'm 54 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: going with this. If spraying the steering shaft with the 55 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: with the flex couplings and it made a difference, all right, 56 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: If loubing that made a difference, then why don't we 57 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: just take something in the way of a rust penetrant. 58 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: If it's rusty, let's break down the rust packing grease 59 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: in there. Grease is grease. Rust penetrant breaks rust down. 60 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 2: So sometimes just something as simple peb let's use let's 61 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: use peb blaster, right the straw. Make it so that 62 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: we can get it exact, you know, rotate the wheel, 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: get it into this side of the joints, rotate the wheel, 64 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: get it into that side of the joints and let 65 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: the PB sit there and work and soak in. It's 66 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: got to get underneath and get to the because it's 67 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: basically two little U joints with trunion bearings. So you know, 68 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: we want to let the PB blaster get in there 69 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: and soak and work its way in and try and 70 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: see if it freeze things up. And if it does, 71 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: and it may fix it. And if it does fix it, 72 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 2: then the next thing I'm going to tell you to use. 73 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: PB blaster also makes something called multi Max lubricant again 74 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: with a straw, and I would just start pumping that 75 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: in there to displace the PB. So now it's got 76 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: a lubricant in there. You know, if they're putting like 77 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: a heavy grease on that, it might seem it right, 78 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: they probably sprayed it with yellow lithium or white grease 79 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: or whatever we want to call it. To me, it's 80 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: always been yellow grease. But you know that's that's where 81 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: I would go with this second question. 82 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: So, yeah, so this is like low on the rate. Yeah, 83 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: I've got an appointment I made with a mechanic. It's 84 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: a zero one twenty eight something to do with the 85 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: I think it's a thermostat you know it's sticking open, 86 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: so it's you know, it's not you know, it's not 87 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: throwing out good heat. And the check engine light came 88 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: on and that kind of thing. So you know, that's 89 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: not a huge deal unless you want to interject, and 90 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: then then let's let's. 91 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: Seeah back up. So P zero one twenty eight is 92 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: I always think of it and explain it like this. 93 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: It's rate of rise. You live in a house, right, yeah, 94 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: you turn on the heat, you are you turn on 95 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: the air conditioning. You're looking for a temperature differential in 96 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: a set period of time. Otherwise you get Otherwise you 97 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: get cranky or or you live with cranking. You have 98 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: to listen to her, and this is about this is 99 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: about rate of rise. Okay, if we turn the if 100 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: we start the car, does it come up the temperature 101 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: within whatever the manufacturer or whatever the software engineer wants 102 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: three minutes, four minutes, five minutes, et cetera. If if 103 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: they want to see one hundred and ninety five degrees 104 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: in three three minutes and it gets to one hundred 105 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: and ninety five degrees in three minutes and five seconds, 106 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: it's gonna set a P zero one twenty eight thermostat 107 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: rationality rate of rise was incorrect. So it's it's not 108 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: that the thermostat is stuck open. It's that it doesn't 109 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: properly control and cycle to help bring the engine up 110 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: the temperature so well. It could be the sensor, it 111 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: could be a lot of things, all right. But if 112 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: this is a seventeen jeep and you've got a you've 113 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: got a physical low heat condition, I'm gonna tell you 114 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: the likely place to start. I'm gonna look at fluid 115 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: levels and a few other things, but the likely place 116 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: to start is a thermostat, and that's gonna be That's 117 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: gonna be the thermostat end housing. The housing has the 118 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: bleed on it, right, You're probably or you may find 119 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: are you dealing with a Chrysler dealer or an independent? 120 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: Uh, it's a Jeep dealership, Okay, so you. 121 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: May find they may come back and tell you, hey, 122 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: the the OE thermostat is on back order. It's I 123 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: think it's been on back order eighteen months out of 124 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: my local guy here in New Jersey, and we've been 125 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: We've been using Motorad all right, and haven't had any issues. 126 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: The Motorad thermostat works really well. So, and it's built 127 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: for all I know, Motorad's making it for Chrysler because 128 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: it looks identical to the Chryslers were taking off the 129 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: markings and everything, the machining, the whole nine. 130 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: I had my coolant replaced about two years ago, two 131 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: years plus. Would I be able to see like like 132 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: beautifully colored uh coolant, you know? Or is it going 133 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: to be like muddy like it shouldn't. 134 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: It shouldn't be what? What? What would make you think 135 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: it would be muddy looking? 136 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 3: Well, you know, rust and whatnot inside the inside the 137 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: uh you know, the coolant system. Where would the right 138 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 3: I took off the cap just to see the level 139 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: of the coolant. The radiator's full, but it's kind of like, 140 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of like that uh, that stuff 141 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: they're trying to sell that, you know, that that coffee stuff. 142 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: It's it's murky. Yeah, So it needs it needs an exchange, 143 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: and not just the drain and fill. It needs a 144 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: physical exchange. And it sounds like if the coolant is 145 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: contaminated breaking down. I'm going to use the word oxygenated 146 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: not probably not the right word, but that's how my 147 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: mind sees it. What makes things rust. You ever think 148 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: about this? Right, And and I learned this on a 149 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: trip to Bermuda many years ago. You'd go, you know, 150 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: you went snorkeling, and you saw some things in the 151 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: bottom of the ocean that were rusted in, some things 152 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: that were not. And when I looked at it, like 153 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: I was curious, I thought everything would rust when it 154 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: hits water. No, it's the oxygen content of water that 155 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: makes things rust. So some things can sit in water 156 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: and never rust. There's no oxygen content. So why do 157 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: car engines, you know, rot from the inside out because 158 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: oxygen is getting induced somewhere? And is it a leaky radiator? 159 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: Most common cause is a leaky or failing radiator cap. Right, 160 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: the cap doesn't seal properly, and now it allows oxygen 161 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: to be induced into the system. So where we're going 162 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: to go here is you know, a barring engine oil contamination, 163 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: trans oil contamination through the radiator cooler, you know, barring 164 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: the wide periphery of possibilities. I'm going to say, let's 165 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: do an exchange. Let's put a fresh radiator cap on it, 166 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: Let's put a rate, let's put a thermostat in it, 167 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: and let's watch and see where it goes, right, Okay, 168 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: so you know that would be my first step. By 169 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: the way, motorad makes an excellent radiator. Cap to third question, yep. 170 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: So the last question, you know is you know something 171 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: you've covered on your show quite a bit, is uh 172 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: you know? And I just want to kind of get 173 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: it straight from you. It's like the availability of parts 174 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: for the you know, the twenty seventeen Geep Wrangler. You know, 175 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: whether it's a two door or four door. You know 176 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: a mine's the four door. But you know it's like 177 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: is that stuff still out there? Like is it yes, ubiquitous? 178 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: Guess yes, it's it's there. What it is? The question? 179 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: Let me ask you the question, Ralph, is the question 180 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: because are you thinking is it time to replace it? 181 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: Or is it time to keep going? Is that what's 182 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: rolling around in your head? 183 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: I'm at that point, like I'm seventy five thousand miles. 184 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: I don't drive a lot, but you know I like 185 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: to keep my jeep, you know, like you know pretty 186 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: you know, well taken care of. 187 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 4: You know. 188 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: So okay, so let's let's let's attack it like this. 189 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: If Ralph had to go out and buy another jeep, 190 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: could he afford to Yeah, all right, has Ralph just right? 191 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: Has Ralph driven a new vehicle yet? A new Jeep? 192 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? 193 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: I bought this new and twenty eight. 194 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 2: No, no, no no. Have you have you driven a brand 195 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: new Have you driven a twenty five Wrangler? Have you 196 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: driven the new model? Once you go, drive the new 197 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: model of that, just take it for a road test. Yeah, 198 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of keeping things. Listen, you're talking to 199 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: the wrong guy about getting rid of a vehicle. You know, 200 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to get rid of it. You know, 201 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: my four suburban is still you know. I take great 202 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: pride in my stash of parts. 203 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know. 204 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: My window regulator is my fuel. I was just looking 205 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: at the other day. I think I could build another suburban, 206 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: you know, and I just I just like the vehicle. 207 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: So you know, this is about commitment, right, There's gonna 208 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: be good years in bed years owning this, owning this 209 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: now eight year old jeep. And are you ready for that? 210 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: Are you ready mentally for that? 211 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 5: You know? 212 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: Are you going to is it going to start to 213 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: drag you down? If the trans were to fail in 214 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 2: the next twenty thousand miles and it's seven to eight 215 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: grand to put a trans in this, would you do it? 216 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 5: No? 217 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, right, well, I look at the trade 218 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: in value. They're only offering me about fifteen thousand for 219 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: the trades, so they're gonna they're going to resell it 220 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: for twenty two. 221 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: Right or whatever? If listen, selling a jeep is never 222 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: really a problem. They have a market onto their own, right, 223 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: do yourself a favor, all right, And I'll say this 224 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: brotherly love. Right, do yourself a favor. Go road test 225 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: a new one, Go try and sell yours. See what 226 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: it's worth, see what the market will bear, and let 227 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: that be your deciding barometers. As far as parts, they're 228 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: out there, there's enough of those vehicles there, there's enough 229 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: of a market, there's enough of demand. 230 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: But all what about the art about getting stuck with 231 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: a turbo? 232 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 5: See? 233 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: I like the three point six leader the Pennastar V six, right, 234 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 3: but you know, I'm a little sketchy on the on 235 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: the turbo. So I think it's like a two point 236 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 3: four liter turbo. And you can get a manual trans 237 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: with with with the three point six leader of V six, 238 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 3: you know, all the way up to the rubicon, Right, 239 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: which man would you want that yeah, it's fine. 240 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: Okay, once you go drive some once you go drive 241 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: some vehicles, Ralph. Yeah, because you're doing the worst. You're 242 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: doing the worst thing you could do. You're negotiating with yourself, right, yeah, 243 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: all right, and I say that with love. Do that, 244 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 2: call me back, let me know what you decide to do. 245 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: But I wouldn't I wouldn't get rid of that for 246 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 2: fear of oh my gosh, there's no parts. It might 247 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: be a search, but they'll be there, all right. 248 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, thanks, I appreciate your on. 249 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: You're very welcome, sir. You'd be well eight five five 250 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: five six zero nine nine zero zero running any in 251 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: the car? Doctor? I am back right after this. Okay, 252 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: let's wandered down Virginia Way and talk to Donald Donald. 253 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: What's going on? 254 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: Oh, what's going on? I got a little two thousand 255 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 4: and seven Kia rio. Okay, Well, I was driving the 256 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 4: back are of last week. I lived a half month 257 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: seven eleven when I got a couple of coffees. Twenty 258 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: minutes later, come out and getting in it. Once started 259 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: started about two seconds cut off, I said, Man, that's 260 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: got that sounds like a fuel point wented out on 261 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: me or or time best. So I tried to well 262 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: it over. It wouldn't do nothing. So I got it, 263 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: found me, got me and my nephew call it home. 264 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 4: I said, I wanted to futile ef back in then 265 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: see if it start. But it didn't hit. I said, well, 266 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 4: I mean, let me try crank and see what you 267 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 4: know if it's turning any faster. Case of time about 268 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 4: my broke. Well, it worrid over and like it hit 269 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 4: a tight spot. Then he tried to start and then 270 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: I tried it again and it fired up and its 271 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 4: been run since then. It acts it up again this 272 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: morning the same ain't again. 273 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: So so it had a moment of did it did 274 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: it change the way it cranked? 275 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 5: Was? 276 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: Did it sound different than it normally sounds when you 277 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: crank it over? 278 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 4: Just when I tried to start it it acts like 279 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 4: I want to hit. But I took it ahead and 280 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: put it on a computer and dependon find nothing wrong. 281 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not expecting. I'm not expecting to find 282 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: the code. Uh you know, I'd be curious just to 283 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: see what the timing belt looks like, right does it? 284 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 4: Does it? 285 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: Does it run good? Right now? If you can you 286 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: take it out on the road and drive it like normal. 287 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, okay, all right, yeah we do. 288 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: We have something? You know, I'm spitballing. Do we have 289 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: something mechanical going on in the engine? I would at 290 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: least pull the time and cover off and take a 291 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: look at the belt. Have you owned the car along? 292 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 5: Well? 293 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 4: She bought a brand new all. 294 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: Right, And has anybody any history of a timing belt? 295 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 5: Did you? 296 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 4: Well? I talked to her. She said they put one 297 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 4: in abody a year ago. 298 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'd still look at it, you know, did theay? 299 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: Whose day was it? Kia was an independent shop? Is 300 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: there something? Is there something failing? I'd rather take the 301 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: ounce of prevention now, just to just you know, here's 302 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: the case of tell me what's good. I'll tell you 303 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: what's bad. If you look at the timing belt and 304 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: there's no wear marks, there's nothing fraying, there's nothing worn, 305 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: then I'm gonna say, all right, let's move on to 306 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: the next thing. But you know, if we've got an issue. 307 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: How many miles are on this probably a lot? 308 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, by at night drink now, two. 309 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: Hundred thousand miles. Brother, you know you're about eighteen, you're 310 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: about fifteen years and let's see, you're probably about one 311 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: hundred thousand miles past what Kia thought it would go. 312 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: So you're doing good, but it. 313 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: Don't use or drop all well, you can't knock off? 314 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah all yep, yep, yep yep. And and just out 315 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: of curiosity, it cranked okay when it didn't start or 316 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: could it have been anything related like a bed like 317 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: a bed or a weak battery. 318 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 4: Nope, bring new battery. Okay, okay, because because I put 319 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: a brain new mint and make. 320 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: Sure right and right now it's running fine? 321 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, running fine. 322 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: I would I would take a look at the timing 323 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: belt just to make sure it looks okay. As a 324 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: critical point, do we have the beginnings of a starter 325 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: that's failing? Although you say, well yeah, click, I'd almost 326 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: have to hear this, but from the sounds of it, 327 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: you're saying that the engine had a hard time cranking 328 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: over right? 329 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: Well, well, no word over you hit like a tight 330 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: spot like you want to part, then I'll switch you 331 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: here again. 332 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: It far up, okay. I would be curious do we 333 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: have a start of some sort of mechanical issue starter 334 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: or flywheel something like that, or do we have a 335 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: timing belt issue going on, and I would check both 336 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: before I drove this car on a continuous basis. 337 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was kind kind of important towards the 338 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: brain box. 339 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: Well, why what makes you think it's a bad computer. 340 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: That's a pretty, that's a pretty, that's a pretty random 341 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: shot in the dark. 342 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, most a lot of experment as to 343 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: put make it far where you will go through it 344 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 4: rightway in all the because yes, two days ago I 345 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: was driving stopped stop lighting a call for like it 346 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 4: was an electric car by far right back up? 347 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: Well you got to you got to remember, you know, 348 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: there's an awful lot of inputs to a PCM and 349 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: before I before I jump down that hole, i'd want 350 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: to verify the easy, least expensive stuff before I started 351 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: looking at anything else. All right, because here, let's play 352 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: the game. Okay, it's a computer. How much is that 353 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: going to cost? Is it a guess? Is it diagnosed? 354 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: Who's going to put it in? Where you're going to 355 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: get one from, who's going to do the software update? 356 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: Because understand, putting a computer in a vehicle that old 357 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: is not like walking down to the nearest computer store, 358 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: buying one and plugging it in. On your desktop at home. Yeah, 359 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: I know, so all right, kiddo, okay, you'd be well, yes, sir, 360 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: uh yeah, it's not that easy. Real quick, mister Ray, 361 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: I notice you're wearing a uh New York Giants sweatshirt today? 362 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 5: Yes? I am? 363 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: Is there a reason for that? You like? Hold? Oh, 364 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: it just kind of happened to be there. 365 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: But I don't have to after last week's game, I 366 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: don't have to wear the bag over my head anymore. 367 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: And what happens if they win tomorrow? All right? Ask 368 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: questions tomorrow? I should say, what happens when they win tomorrow? 369 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: Well, when they win tomorrow, there will be no talking 370 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: to me next week? 371 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: Oh good lord. And then if they beat Philadelphia the 372 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: week after next, oh my god, that'll be the second time. 373 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: Can you imagine? I think we should end the season? 374 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: Then I would agree? Yeah, I know? How much better 375 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: could it get? Eight five five five six zero nine 376 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: nine zero zero. Pray for Tom Ray America. He needs 377 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: every chance he can get. I'm Ron a nanny and 378 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Let's uh, 379 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: let's go to Shannon to Maryland. Shannon, Welcome to the 380 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: card Doctor. How can I help them. 381 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 6: Hi, I wanted to talk to the lady that had 382 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 6: two catalytic converters go out. I with my experience with 383 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 6: catalytic converter that they rarely ever go out let alone twice. 384 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 6: But I want to ask you what I do to 385 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 6: fix mine? Is I floor when I get my engine light? 386 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 6: I always go to advanced autos. They tell me it's 387 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 6: my catalytic converter, and I go and I floor it 388 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 6: like twice, and then the next time I turn it on, 389 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 6: my light'll be off. But the one guy did tell 390 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 6: me an O two censor. If I ignore that, that's 391 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 6: what the problem is. Am I damaging it? Or is 392 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 6: it just telling me it's kind of clogged and I 393 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 6: can continue. I did put some of the additive in it, 394 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 6: and that worked great when I couldn't floor it and 395 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 6: clean it out. 396 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: Well, me ask Let me ask, Let me ask you 397 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: a couple of questions. What kind of car are we 398 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: talking about? 399 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 6: A twenty twelve Honda cr vay. It's the last till 400 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 6: I die unless it goes. 401 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 5: Quicker, okay? 402 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 2: And what makes you think catalytic converters never go bet. 403 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: I'm not arguing, I'm just curious where you got that. 404 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 6: That's that's what I my brother. 405 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: Okay, what does your brother do for a living? 406 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 6: Oh, he has worked on tons and tons of cars, 407 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 6: but actually he's retired at the moment. But you're right, 408 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 6: I mean, but I'm managing it. The light goes out 409 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 6: after I floor it. And actually I had one mechanic. 410 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 6: I was supposed to get my catalytic converter changed. And 411 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 6: he said, well, how do you drive? I said, well, 412 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 6: like a little old lady. And he said, well, how 413 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 6: many how many? 414 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: How many miles are on your Honda Shennon? 415 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 6: It is one hundred and ninety two thousand. 416 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So catalytic converters wear out. It's just it's just 417 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: a fact the life. You want to get longer life 418 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: out of a cat, do regular scheduled oil changes, do 419 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: fuel system cleaning, make sure the crank case ventilation system 420 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: is working properly, and you know, depending on your style 421 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: of driving. Yeah, theoretically you'll get longer life out of 422 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: a cat, but they do fail. Believe me, the catalytic 423 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: the catalytic converter replacement market is very legitimate and it's 424 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: a it's a it's a billion dollar business in all 425 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 2: likelihood if we sat down and measured it in terms 426 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: of what gets read placed on an annual basis or 427 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: over a ten year timeframe. That being said, all right, 428 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: what you're doing is well, let me tell you how. 429 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 2: Let me tell you how catalytic converters get measured to 430 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: see if they're good or bad. All right, A catalytic 431 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: converter is up. Think of it as like a little 432 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: bitty bonfire in the exhaust system. It has to burn 433 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: at a certain temperature, all right. It has to be efficient, right. 434 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: A cold engine is not efficient, An overheated engine is 435 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: not efficient. A cold catalytic converter is not efficient, and 436 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: overheated catalytic converter is not efficient. It has to run 437 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: a specific temperature range. When it's in that temperature range, 438 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: it causes a chemical reaction to reduce pollutants that are 439 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: coming down the exhaust pipe and convert them into carbon 440 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: dioxide and other non lethal pollutants to the atmosphere, to 441 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: the environment. Right, how do we know? How do we 442 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: know what that is? We know it's carbon dioxide and oxygen. 443 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 2: We're looking at oxygen sensor activity, all right, But but 444 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 2: an oxygen sensor measures the issues a catalytic converter. Actually, 445 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: you know does the reduction. So for the fella to say, oh, 446 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 2: it's an O two censor, I don't think so. The 447 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: system on a modern vehicle gets tested probably six different ways, 448 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: each component, over over six different timeframes, so to speak. 449 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: It's very complex. You ever notice when you go to 450 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: the doctor, what do they do? They always do the 451 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: same thing. They do the same repetitive testing heart rate, 452 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: blood pressure, They ask you the questions, they run you through. Right, 453 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: it's the same cars do the same thing every time 454 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: you start them. They run through the same repetitive testing 455 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: of every component during some kind of timeframe. What I 456 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: think you're doing is I think you're putting off the 457 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: inevitable that the car has a failing catalytic converter, its 458 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: efficiency is falling below seventy percent, which is the average number. 459 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: At seventy one percent efficiency, it'll work at sixty nine 460 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: percent efficiency, it'll set a fault code. And yeah, if 461 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: you're driving the proverbial quote unquote little old lady, the 462 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: catalytic converters loaded up, it's it's never getting hot enough, 463 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: it's never getting a good enough run, and you're you're 464 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 2: putting off the inevitable? Are you are you hurting anything? Well? 465 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: How old are you? Can I ask you that question, Shannon? 466 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: Are you over sixty five? Oh? 467 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, sixty eight? 468 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: Okay, So when you were thirty eight, could you jog 469 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: and run and accelerate real quick? And it wasn't that 470 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: big a strain on you? Right? Right if you wanted 471 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: to do it? 472 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 6: Now, how hard is it a little difficult? 473 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 5: Right? 474 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: So you're now asking the sixty eight year little old 475 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: lady to go and run as fast as she could 476 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: and jog as fast as she could like she was 477 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 2: thirty eight. You're overstressing her. So you're you're you know, 478 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: it's a mechanical thing, it's a it's it's a machine. 479 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: But you know, you're you're asking more of it than 480 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: it's necessary. Whereas if you put a cat in it 481 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: and you could just drive it like the proverbial little 482 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: old lady, wouldn't it last longer? 483 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 6: Well that isn't my question, So okay now now. 484 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: And let me let me ruin your day further though. 485 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 2: All right, you know, when you do this catalytic converter, 486 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: consider getting one out of Honda. I know the price 487 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: point will be huge. 488 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 5: It is different. 489 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's huge, but but you laid down you know, 490 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: you know what makes the aftermarket cat so much cheaper? No, 491 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: the saws? Well, the size, right, they don't last. You know, 492 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: if the original equipment cat is is twenty eight inches 493 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: long and the aftermarket cat is twenty inches long, that's 494 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 2: eight inches of difference. That eight inches is going to 495 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 2: come back to you in terms of longevity, efficiency, and 496 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: just plain and simple, how long that cat lasts? If 497 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: you really want to drive this until you don't have 498 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: to drive anymore. Well, the first one lasted you two 499 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: hundred thousand miles and thirteen years. 500 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's take. It's going to last longer. No, 501 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 6: I mean not necessarily. I mean you say, how many 502 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 6: miles should I expect on my car? Keeping it up 503 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 6: to date on everything, which I usually did. 504 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 2: I knew, well, you're asking you're asking the wrong guy 505 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: that question. I drove a seventy two money Carlo in 506 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: college to four hundred thousand miles when cars back then 507 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: we're getting one hundred thousand. I've got a ninety seven 508 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: Ranger that's got two hundred and thirty thousand miles on it. 509 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: I've got an O four suburban with ninety seven thousand 510 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: miles on it looks like that they rolled off the 511 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 2: assembly line. You know, I always look at replacing parts 512 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 2: and replacing a car as two separate items. If you 513 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: went out to date to replace that Honda CRV, emotions aside, right, 514 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 2: let's keep emotions out of this. Oh, I want a 515 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: shiny red car once before I die. That's the expression. 516 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: That's what goes through our minds. We're human, We're all human. 517 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: We all see that same shiny red car coming down 518 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: the road. Oh I want one of those. That's an 519 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: emotional thing. But the practical side, I want to drive 520 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: this until I can't drive it anymore. Well, let's see, 521 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: so from an emotional perspective, forty thousand dollars for a 522 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: new car or two thousand dollars a year to maintain it. 523 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 2: Start doing the math. Yeah, and that two thousand a 524 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: year isn't every year. Where the plan runs into a 525 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: glitch is finding parts, finding somebody that's really dedicated to 526 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: taking care of it, and you know, having to put 527 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 2: up with the you know, gee, do I have a 528 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: big car expense coming up this month? All those things wig. 529 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 6: In good, good point. Thank you, all right, so you're 530 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 6: very welcome. 531 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 5: All right, Kiddle, all. 532 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 6: Right, tell Bill, I'm on my way. He listens to you, 533 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 6: and I'm going to go buy a bicycle, all right. 534 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: Go buy a bicycle. You have a great time, Shannon. 535 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 2: So hey, Bill, Shannon's on our way. You've been warned 536 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero 537 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: run on naming of the car. Doctor. I'll be back 538 00:25:53,720 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: maybe right after this and the disco ball. God that 539 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 2: white shit you're telling you you like that? Huh oh No, 540 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: I don't don travolt to eat your heart out. So 541 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: let's go to Bob in Virginia. Thirteen Silverado. What's going 542 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: on here, Robert? 543 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 544 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 5: Hi, Ron. So it's a twenty thirteen Silverado. It's got 545 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 5: about two hundred and fifty five thousand miles, and about 546 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 5: two months ago started running rough. Check engine light came on, 547 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 5: so it was due for plugs and new wires. So 548 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 5: I did that myself, right, and it didn't It didn't 549 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 5: solve it. It didn't help the problem. So the check engine 550 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 5: light was still long, still running rough. So I took 551 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: it in a mechanic and he told me I had low 552 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 5: compression in cylinder number five. Okay, okay, So I picked 553 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 5: the car up, I took it, and I'm deciding on, 554 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 5: you know, what I want to do about that, And 555 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,239 Speaker 5: in the meantime, the problem seems to come and go. 556 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 5: It's like intermittent. So the majority of the time's running 557 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 5: rough and the check engines later on. But there's sometimes 558 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 5: where maybe you know, for so long, it'll go out 559 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 5: and it'll start running smoothly again, and that's not that's 560 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 5: maybe like ten twenty percent of the time. The rest 561 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 5: of the eighty ninety percent of the time it's rough 562 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 5: and check engine lights on. But there are those periods 563 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 5: of time where to check engine leos out on its 564 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 5: own and the engines running smooth, smoothly. I'm sticking to myself. 565 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 5: I didn't know. 566 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: I didn't know you could have an intermittent compression problem. 567 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 5: Now now, one of the last thing I'll tell you. 568 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 5: Sometimes it seems like it's affected by when I put 569 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 5: gas in it, like a new fresh tank of gas, 570 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 5: or I've even put some gasoline additives in there, and 571 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 5: sometimes that seems to affect it. Right, if that's if 572 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 5: that's possible. 573 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: So if we work on the theory that the mechanic 574 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: is correct. All right, we're gonna We're gonna beat this 575 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: up a couple of different ways. So get ready. If 576 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: we work on if we work on the theory that 577 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 2: this is a compression loss, that it was really low 578 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: on compression and it's legit and the guy diagnosed it, right, 579 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: let's talk about how can we have intermittent low compression 580 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: on a cylinder? 581 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 5: Right? 582 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 2: First one is carbon deposits? Right? Do we have excess 583 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: carbon deposits on the valves? And are they creating a 584 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: problem where the valves aren't ceiling? And that's not uncommon 585 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: on these as they age. One of the ways, one 586 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: of the ways to try and diagnose it, you know's 587 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: a couple of things. When it's running rough, you know, 588 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: put a gauge in there. Do I have? Do I 589 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: have physically low cranking mechanical compression? 590 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 591 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: All right, Let's let's make up a number. You know, 592 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: seven the seven cylinders are one hundred and eighty pounds 593 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: and number five is ninety right, so you know I've 594 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: got legitimate low compression. How do I know where it's 595 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 2: coming from? Let's do a cylinder leak down test? All right, 596 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: are you familiar with that term? I know I'm not okay. 597 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: So a cylinder leaked down test, A cylinder is a cylinder, right, 598 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: It's just an engine. Cylinder is just a sealed container 599 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 2: for an explosion to happen. And if we do a 600 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: leaked down test, we're putting an air hose to the 601 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: spark plug hole. We're bringing the cylinder. We're bringing number 602 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: five around onto compression stroke where in theory the valves 603 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: are both closed, right, and we're going to put an 604 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: auxiliary air regulator attachment to it, and we're going to 605 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: put one hundred pounds in and see how much air 606 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: it holds. If the cylinder was perfectly sealed and I 607 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: put one hundred pounds in in theory, how much should 608 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: I hold? And a perfect hold one hundred right in 609 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: a perfect world. The only thing I ever saw come 610 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: close to hold one hundred, for the record was the 611 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: hot rod when it was fresh. It held ninety eight 612 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: because I'd leaked. I leaked all the cylinders myself. But 613 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: you will see this right away. If this is a 614 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: true low compression problem on number five, you're going to 615 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: put one hundred in and you're going to see seventy five, 616 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: sixty whatever. Now, what good does that do as well? 617 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: It tells us two things. It verifies the mechanical compression 618 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: theory of being low as correct. But number two, where's 619 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: the air going? Do I hear it? Do I hear 620 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: it coming out the intake, which means it's an intake 621 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: valve that's stuck open. If I get underneath and listen 622 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: at the tailpipe and I listen with this tethoscope, do 623 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: I hear it out the exhaust which means an exhaust valve? 624 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: So in either case, now I know I've got to 625 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: confirm mechanical condition in the engine. Do I need to 626 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: pull the engine? Because I already know where your mind 627 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: is going, right, you know it's it's you know, do 628 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: you put an engine in it? Do you do heads? 629 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: Do you you know you want to keep the truck? 630 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: I can hear the whole argument in your head going on. 631 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: That's what you're calling me? Uh you know? I if 632 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: and let me let me back up. If this has 633 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 2: a mechanical fault that it physically needs cylinder heads, you're 634 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: doing an engine. If if if this needs a a 635 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: camshaft for some reason, Let's say this is a cam 636 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: related problem, a lifter problem, something along those lines. Whether 637 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: or not you need an engine is going to be 638 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: predicated on what the engine looks like when you open 639 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: it up. You'll you'll tell me you did all your 640 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: oil changes, and I'm going to tell you it doesn't matter. 641 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: I want to know what the engine looks like on 642 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: the inside. Does it does it look you know, factory 643 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: fresh or is it sludgy and gummy? And I'm just 644 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: you know, I'm just putting lipstick on a pig, right, 645 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: so you know that all comes into effect. But I 646 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: want to know, you know, do I really have a 647 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: low cylinder low compression problem? On number four? If I 648 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 2: were to take a borscope, if we were standing at 649 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: the shop and I was walking through, what do I 650 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: do At some point? I'm going to take a borscope 651 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: if I think this is a real low compression issue, 652 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: and run the borscope, which is just like what the 653 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: plumber uses to look up the walls of the house. 654 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to run a borscope down the intake and 655 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: look at the valves. Do I see carbon? If I 656 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: see carbon, I might try a carbon cleaning, a real 657 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: true carbon cleaning, because carbon on the valves that comes 658 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: and goes. Maybe I can get away with doing a 659 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: fuel system cleaning, and. 660 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 5: You know, how's that? How's that done? 661 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: You got an Advance Auto parts by you? Yeah, go 662 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: down there and go down there and see if they 663 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: have a CRCGDI service pack. All right, and I'll tell 664 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: you what. Stay put. When I come back, we'll finish 665 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: up and I'll tell you exactly how it works. Bob, 666 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: I'm ronning Andy and the car Doctor. I'll be back 667 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: right after this. I think that's from Beverly Hills cop. 668 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: Every time I hear that song, I just wonder. But anyway, 669 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: Bob Virginia, you're still there, sir. Yeah, So let's talk 670 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: real quick. Are you a mechanic at all, Bob? Any 671 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: mechanical ability or. 672 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not a no, no, no professional cap but 673 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 5: I've done engines and taking them apart and putting all 674 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. 675 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: Do you own a vacuum gauge? 676 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 5: No? I don't. 677 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: Okay, go buy a vacuum gauge. Spend twenty bucks, spend 678 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: forty bucks, get a good one, right, and let's let's 679 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: learn about you. Do you ever think about what vacuum is? 680 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: Vacuum is, vacuum is vacuum is the absence of pressure. 681 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: An engine is a big air pump, all right, and 682 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: it's in its simplest form squeeze, suck, pop, blow right, intake, compression, power, exhaust, 683 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: and you know, vacuum is what's produced an engine. A good, 684 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: healthy engine produces good vacuum. So when the engine is 685 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: running well, you'll see somewhere between sixteen and twenty inches 686 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: of manifold vacuum. Better yet, if you have another car 687 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: in the family, look at that car for a vacuum 688 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: and see what it does. So you'll understand, yeah, good, good, 689 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: a good running engine. Disregarding value overlap and valve timing 690 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 2: and all that nonsense, you know, learn about vacuum. Vacuum 691 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: is a cheap thing to learn about, and you can't 692 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: do it. You know, you can do it really really 693 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: economically in this day and age. So, but the idea 694 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: of a fuel system cleaning is that if the intake 695 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: valve is carbon coded. Right, doing a fuel system cleaning 696 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: using a CRC kit Vance Auto or it's available online, 697 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: what you'll do is you'll hook up to the rail. 698 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: You'll actually spray a chemical through clean out the injectors, 699 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: you will clean the throttle body, if you see any 700 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: form of improvement, it tells you that you're going in 701 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: the right direction. But I'd like you to see you 702 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: do a vacuum reading before and after it, because you 703 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 2: might see a difference in how the engine operates that 704 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: might help determine which direction to go. Call me back 705 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: if you need more, Bob, I'm running ady in the car. Doctor. 706 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you