1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: I get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The Fight, the Good, Fie Every 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Moment addition, as the Bengals look to keep their playoff 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: hopes alive by beating Baltimore for the second time in 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: three weeks. Coming up, former Bengals safety Solomon Wilcotts joins 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: me to discuss Joe Burrow's return and how to make 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: sure the Bengals are not fighting for their playoff lives 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: at this time next year. My one on one player 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: interview is with a potential first time pro bowler, DJ Turner, 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: and in this week's Know the Faux segment, former Ravens 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: linebacker Brad Jackson explains what's gone wrong in Baltimore. The 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by pay Corps, 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: Proud to be the Bengals official HR software provider, by 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Alta Fiber future Proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business, 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: and community to a new level, and Kettering Health the 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: best care for the best fans. Kettering Health is the 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now here's a quick 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: reminder that you can have the latest edition of this 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: since installing a new shower head. I am the world's 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: least handy person. I can barely fill a gas tank 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: or change a light bulb. But one of the showers 24 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: in our house had an old shower head, so I 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: replaced it this week. Now, admittedly it's not hard to do. 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: It required a vice grip to twist off the old one, 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: and then the new one was easy to screw on 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: by hand. But the difference after that easy do it 29 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: yourself project is a total game changer. Remember the Seinfeld 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: episode where Kramer bought a black market shower head that 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: was used to wash off elephants at the zoo. Well, 32 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: that's what it's like at our house. So the next 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: time you see me, if it appears that I have 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: just had a massage, you'll know why. Now let's get 35 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: to football. No team in the NFL has produced more 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: great broadcasters than Cincinnati Bob Trumpy, Chris Collinsworth, Boomer Asiasin, 37 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: and Dave Lapham, to name a few. This week, I 38 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: spoke to a former Bengals safety who hosts the opening 39 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: Drive show every weekday morning on satellite radio. You can 40 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: hear him on Sirius XM NFL Radio and on the 41 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: Believe In Bengals podcast. And this week we get to 42 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: benefit from Solomon's wisdom as we are joined by former 43 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: Bengal Solomon Wilcotts Sally. What has Joe Burrow shown you 44 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, both in terms of 45 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: his on the field play and his. 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: Leadership, that he is the ultimate competitor, that at the 47 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: end of the day, his superpowers in all quarterbacks and 48 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: you have them if you're good one right. His superpower 49 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: is what Vince Lombardi called is the talent from the 50 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: neck up, his cerebral ability to diagnose defenses, to understand 51 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: what to do, how to do it, and where to 52 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: go with the football at critical moments. And you know, 53 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: he's hit the ground running other than you know, maybe 54 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: a little rust in that first half of the game 55 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 2: against the Ravens on Thanksgiving Night, it's been clicking. You 56 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: saw what he did against Buffalo. He came out, they 57 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: scored on three of their first four possessions in the 58 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: first half, and then kind of got it going late. Look, 59 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: the law of averages is that you're gonna ultimately throw 60 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: an interception fourteen that throws it as much as they do, 61 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: as many dropbacks as they have, if the ball's gonna 62 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: get tipped and it's gonna come down in the opponent's hands. 63 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: But I think the Bills are very fortunate they know 64 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: that those interceptions were critical. 65 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: To them being able to win. 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I'm gonna bet 67 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: on Joe and I'm riding with him. He's a competitor 68 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: and the guy is very Cerebro gives the Bengals a 69 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: chance to win each and every week. 70 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: So in his two games so far, he beat Baltimore 71 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: in Baltimore by eighteen. The Bengals obviously went toe to 72 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: toe with the Bills. That took a superman effort by 73 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Josh Allen to allow Buffalo to come away with a 74 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: home win. If the Bengals could get into the playoffs, 75 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: and admittedly the odds are long, would they be a 76 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: scary opponent for the rest of the AFC. 77 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just like last year. 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: At the end of last year, no team wants to 79 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: see Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase the t. Higgins and particularly 80 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: the Bengals offense in the playoffs, because they already know 81 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: this is a team that can come in and beat 82 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: us even if you're playing at home. 83 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: It was kind of like the twenty twenty one season, and. 84 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 2: You recall because it didn't matter who they were playing, right, 85 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,119 Speaker 2: they could go into anywhere into Tennessee, it gets sacked 86 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: nine times and still beat you. They can go into 87 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: arrow Hits Stadium and still beat you as long as 88 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 2: they've got Joe Burrow. I mean, they know that that's 89 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: a team that's very deadly and there's no team that 90 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: wants to face this team in the postseason. 91 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: Sally, you're starting safety on the Bengals nineteen eighty eight 92 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl team, So, you know, defense, do you see 93 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: any signs of progress on that side of the ball 94 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: right now? 95 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: You know, what I do see is just the fight 96 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: that's in this team. You are seeing some improvement with 97 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: guys like Chris Jenkins up front on the you know 98 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: you're seeing you know, DJ Turner I think has been 99 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: the most significant improvement of any player on the defense 100 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: of that young group of players that we all wanted 101 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: to see improve right and the way Dj is playing 102 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 2: it makes you proud. They still just so much more 103 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: improvement is needed. You know, when our offense score thirty points, 104 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: those are games that we should win. That's how I'm 105 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: looking at it, because if the defense is doing its job, 106 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: they ought to be able to hold a team under 107 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: twenty points, right, But so far this season, you know, 108 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: when we've scored thirty or more points in the six 109 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: games where it's happened, we've only won half of those games. 110 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: If you can win the other half, this team is 111 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: vying for position in the playoffs. Let mean, just think 112 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: about that. So the offense is producing at a high level. 113 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 2: The defense, while there has been some improvement, it needs 114 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: to get even better, particularly untackling and pass rushing. 115 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: You've got to be more disciplined. 116 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: You can't allow the quarterback to escape on a consistent 117 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: basis and hurt you with his legs like third and fifteen. 118 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: You got to be able to get off the field. 119 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: You can't allow the quarterback to just gut you with 120 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: a seventeen yard run and that essentially ended the game. 121 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: The Bengals have really had a hard time covering tight ends. 122 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: Help us understand why that's been such a big issue. 123 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: Wow. You know. 124 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: I talked about this at a Big Goes lunch in 125 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: just a week ago, and this is very critical, just 126 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: understanding how the leverage of how to cover, particularly the 127 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: middle of the field, because you have to close off 128 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: the middle of the field. Dan any quarterback in this league, 129 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: if you give them a direct thro ut right, because 130 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: they can see right down the middle of the field, 131 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: right down the pipe right, they're gonna throw that every time. 132 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: And it's about see if they see their color jersey 133 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: and there's no obstruction between themselves and that big tight end, 134 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: which is kind of like throwing the ball to a 135 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: mac truck because they're bigger. 136 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: They're like a power forward. 137 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: Who's boxing out a safety over the middle of the field. Well, 138 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: you can't allow them to cross your face. So if 139 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: I'm the safety, I can't let that player cross my face. 140 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: I've got to cut him off. I can't let It's 141 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: like being a good defender in basketball. I cannot let 142 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: you cross my face. You're gonna have to go around me, 143 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: and I'm not you know, I'm not getting even to 144 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: let you do that. So I'm gonna stay in front 145 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: of you. Because if that quarterback he's taught that if 146 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: you see your big power for it tight end across 147 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: the face of the safety, throw it because he's gonna 148 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: he's gonna shield you away from the ball. 149 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: He's gonna catch it. They're taught to trust that. 150 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: So if they see my color jersey right, they're not 151 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: gonna throw it. In fact, what we used to do 152 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: to bait quarterbacks is we try to hide behind that 153 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: tight end knowing that we still could get that intercept 154 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: angle and forcing the quarterback to throw it anyway. 155 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: But we're not doing that. We're not holding positions. 156 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 2: Even DJ Turner, he allowed the tight end to get 157 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: across his face, allow him to get inside. He tried 158 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: to come underneath. But a good throw is gonna beat 159 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 2: that position every single time. And Josh Allen soon as 160 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: he saw that big tight endcross the face of DJ Turner, 161 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: he cut it loose. And they're doing it because they're 162 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: seeing it happen week after week. You can go back 163 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 2: to Chicago and you saw it happen. You could go 164 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: back game after gaming. Right, it's happening, and so other 165 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: teams are saying, hey, we believe we can make these 166 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: same plays because they don't defend the middle of the 167 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: field very well in the passing game, particularly against the 168 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: tight end. So you're going to see it again this 169 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: week coming up, because last night I checked, Baltimore has 170 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:25,479 Speaker 2: two pretty good tight ends, and Mark Andrews and Isaiah Likely. 171 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: We're visiting with Solomon Wilcott's. As Joe Burrow has said before, 172 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: his Super Bowl window is his entire career. So the 173 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: Bengals want to be back in contention as soon as possible. 174 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: Give us a few off season priorities to get the 175 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: Bengals back to where they want to be. 176 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: Number one priority is there's no way that we're going 177 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: to have an organization that have Joe Burrow as its 178 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: quarterback and be sitting here now three years. 179 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: Of missing the postseas. 180 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: I'm putting the entire building on those I'm putting everyone unnoticed, 181 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: even everything is under evaluation because it's just you and 182 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: I both know it. You can't have it happen. I mean, 183 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: these are the golden years. These should be consistent years 184 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: of getting into the playoffs when you have this kind 185 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: of player as your quarterback. Now, I know he's gotten 186 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: hurt or whatever, but at the end of the day, 187 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: those opportunities are still there. You got to say to yourself, 188 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: we got to have a backup player that comes in right. 189 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: But more importantly, you have to protect. 190 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: Him to make sure that that you can keep him healthy. 191 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: And you've got to coach and play in a way 192 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: that keeps him healthy. What does that mean, I'm playing 193 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: him under center more. And I like that about Zach Taylor. 194 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: I think since Joe has come back, we've seen him 195 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: under center more in these two games, since he's been back, then, 196 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: I think we've seen in his entire career. Now, what 197 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 2: does that do that helps the offensive line? It helps 198 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: slow down a pass rush, right, It helps protect your 199 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: quarterback because defenders before they can pin their ears back 200 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: and come after the quarterback Dan excuse me, they have 201 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: to decide is it a round or is it a pass? 202 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: Soon as you put the quarterback on the center, you 203 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: put more more of a pause into their evaluation. And 204 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: it's helping the process and the entire operation of the 205 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: offense in the run game and the pass game, play 206 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: action pass. It goes a long way into slowing down 207 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: the defense and protecting your quarterback. So I'm having those 208 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: conversations in the building. I've got to be able to 209 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: run the football in multiple ways, not just. 210 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: In our zone blocking scheme. But I want to see 211 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: us be more powerful. 212 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: We have big offensive tackles, we have a big offensive line, 213 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: by the way, but we're not using that leverage. We're 214 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: not pinning and pulling, we don't get a lot of 215 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: double teams, and we're not coming down here and using 216 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: the power of our offensive line in a much greater way. 217 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: That also slows down a pass rush. You want to 218 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: slow down Miles Garrett, make him defend the run some Okay, 219 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: if everything that we've been doing isn't shotgun zone reads, 220 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: our offensive lineman like Orlando Brown and Amaria's men's they're 221 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: running backwards more than they're running forwards. 222 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: So I think I think. 223 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: All of those things are under evaluation. I know Zach 224 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: Taylor knows these things. In fact, I see them doing 225 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: more of those things as of late, when Joe Flacco 226 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: came and started playing, they started to do more of 227 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: those things. And it's got to be even a higher 228 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: volume of that. We need to have a higher run 229 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: play percentage. And I know we have this great quarterback, 230 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: but if you want to help him be better, that's 231 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: what That's what Jim Harbaugh is doing for Justin Herbert. 232 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: With the LA charge, their run play percentage has gone up, 233 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: so their overall production and efficiency on offense has gone up. 234 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 2: I think Zach Taylor's doing a great job. We've scored 235 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: thirty or more points in fourteen games over the last 236 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: since the start of last season. 237 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: Problem is we've lost half of those games. 238 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: So that means now we got to get to the 239 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball and we've got to be 240 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: better at the point of attack. We've got to be 241 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: able to win the line of scrimmage. Teams can't run 242 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: on us with impunity. We've got to be better tacklers 243 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 2: at the second level. That's our linebackers, that's our safety, 244 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: that's our cornerbacks. We've got to take better angles to 245 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: the to the to the runner, and we've got to 246 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 2: learn that our shoulder pads are for a reason. Man, 247 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: you got to put shoulder pads on people. You can't 248 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 2: grab a man and get him on the ground. You 249 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: got to hit with the same foot, same shoulder on 250 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: the ball carrier, and you got to wrap him up. 251 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: Those are the three fundamentals of tackling. Same foot, same shoulder, 252 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: wrap him up, get him on the ground and you 253 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 2: gotta be physical. 254 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: I want to see remember when Mike Zimmer was here. 255 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: I remember the first day Mike Zimmer practice as the 256 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator with the big I was blown away. 257 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: I said, thank you. 258 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: I said, we finally have someone around here who's not 259 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: afraid to hit a Chant Johnson or TJ. Hushman's out 260 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: may are you know, you got to hit those guys 261 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 2: in the defense has to have a priority. And I'm 262 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: not saying we got to hurt our receivers. That's not 263 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: where I'm going. But physicality is something that's practice. It's 264 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: not just mentioned. You've got to practice it every day 265 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: you step on the field. It's got to be a 266 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: point of emphasis. And I know Al Goden will get 267 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: there in his second year, so but those are just 268 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: if you're asking me. The point of emphasis is some 269 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: of the things that I'm addressing. We haven't even gotten 270 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: to personnel yet. But just from a mentality of how 271 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: the game ought to be played on both sides of 272 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: the ball, that's what I would offer. 273 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: Sally. Let's turn to the Ravens. They come to town 274 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: at six and seven. They've lost back to back home 275 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: games to Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. What's wrong with Baltimore. 276 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: I don't think Lamar Jackson is completely healthy. 277 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: This goes to show you, you know, just because the 278 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: guy's out there now you're playing with some You're playing 279 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: with some deficiencies. He's not the quarterback that we had 280 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: seen over the over the last several years when we've 281 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: played him. He's not as twitchy, he's not as mobile. 282 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: He's I think that growing injury is hindering him and 283 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: forcing him to be less elusive, even in the pocket. 284 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: I don't think their their passing game is as creative 285 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: as it once was. They're not scheming guys open as 286 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: well as they had in the past. 287 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: They seem to be out of sync in the passing game. 288 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, he's really good with the 289 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: tight ends, but when he has to go to the 290 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: receivers further down the field and out on the perimeter, 291 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: unless it's off play action, it's just not there and 292 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: he's not able to buy as much time as he 293 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: used to where there's elusive abilities, where coverage breaks down. 294 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: That's what Josh Allen did to us, By the way, 295 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: stand there, run around by a little more time, stand 296 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: the play coverage can't last forever. That's something that Lamar 297 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: has been very good at and as of late, he's 298 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: not been able to do it. You know, they I 299 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: think they end up having two hundred yards rushing against 300 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh last week, still lost the game. That's surprising, and 301 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: so that, you know, I want to see, Like if 302 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: you were looking, you know, I'm pulling for the Bengals 303 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: in this game, but if you want it, if you 304 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: were on their team and saying, Okay, what do they 305 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: need to do better? 306 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: I think they've got to begin to lean more into. 307 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: Derek Henry, not less with Lamar aling they should be 308 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: giving the opponent a higher dosage of Derek Henry. I 309 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: don't want to see that happen in our game once someday, 310 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: but that's probably what they will look to do the 311 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. You know, we our defense could 312 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: do a much better job at defending the run. The 313 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: Bills had over one hundred and eighty yards rushing in 314 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: that game, and I got to believe that the Baltimore 315 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: Ravens are gonna see that and lean in to that 316 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: more so. 317 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: The Bengals have a chance to beat Baltimore twice in 318 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: three weeks sweep the regular season series for the first 319 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: time since the Super Bowl year back in twenty twenty one. 320 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: Give us a few keys for the Bengals to come 321 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: out on top this week. 322 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be getting defensive stops. You 323 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: got to get more turnovers like what happened last time. 324 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: I look, I don't expect them to get five turnovers 325 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: in the game. But when you fly around and you're 326 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: aggressive and your physical on defense, and believe me, the 327 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: Bengals defense was that night on Thanksgiving Night at M 328 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 2: and T Banks Stadium, the ball comes out and you 329 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: saw what happened with James Cook, and you know the 330 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: way that DJ Turner was flying around and flash the 331 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: ball comes out. So you have to be able to 332 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: do that. More importantly, you've got to cut off these 333 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: tight ends over the middle of the field once you 334 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: stop the run game. That's what they want to do. 335 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: They want to get the ball to Mark Andrews, they 336 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: want to get the ball to Isaiah likely force Lamar 337 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: to win throwing the ball out on the perimeter, because 338 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: I don't think he's as efficient when doing that. And 339 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: then offensively, the Ravens defense has. 340 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: Just not been good. 341 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: They're giving up a lot of points, they're giving up 342 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: a lot of big plays, and they don't like defending 343 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: against Jamar Chase. 344 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: They don't like defending against t Higgins. 345 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 2: And I hope he is going to be well enough 346 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: to play, and if not, Mitchell Tinsley is going to 347 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: have to just hit on a higher ratio of the 348 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: plays when he is targeted. But look, Goseki's been really good. 349 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: So we just got to continue to do what we're 350 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: doing on offense. And don't forget about Chase Brown both 351 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 2: in the running and receiving game, because he's a weapon 352 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: back there. And so I just think continue to be 353 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: balanced on offense, have a considerable run ratio play of 354 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: at least forty percent because that goes a long way 355 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: into helping the passing game. 356 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: Sally really appreciate your time as always. Keep up the 357 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: great work and happy holidays. 358 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, Dan, thanks for having me, and happy holidays 359 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 3: to you as well. 360 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: Sally spent four years playing in the Bengals secondary and 361 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: my one on one player interview this week is with 362 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: the best member of that crew. This year. DJ Turner 363 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: leads the NFL and passes defense and is getting high 364 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: marks from Pro Football Focus. He's graded twelfth overall among cornerbacks, 365 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: and his past coverage grade is fifth best in the NFL. 366 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: AL Golden and Zach Taylor say that Turner is playing 367 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: at a pro bowl level. 368 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 4: We've asked him to do a really hard job each week, 369 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: take on the go to guy, and he's done it 370 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 4: at and performed at a. 371 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 5: Really, really high level. 372 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: I think he'll be the first to say, you know, 373 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 4: he doesn't really want to talk about any of that, 374 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 4: just wants to put his head down and go to work. 375 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: Certainly he should be in the conversation based on his performance, 376 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 4: his approach and consistency. Everybody forgets that part of it, 377 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: just a consistent part of it that separates you when 378 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 4: you get to that level. 379 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 6: He's earned all this. You know, he's not a guy 380 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 6: that just speaks and doesn't put in the work. I've 381 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 6: told you stories all season about training camp conversations with 382 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 6: him and just really proud of him the way he's 383 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 6: handled everything and the way that he just fights every week. 384 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 6: And you can just feel the I mean, you can 385 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 6: genuinely feel the confidence from him oozing off of him. 386 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 6: And he's he's been a tremendous asset for us. He's 387 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 6: a really good communicator. It's really important to him. He 388 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 6: understands what it means to cover their best guy. He 389 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 6: understands all that that entails, the good in the bad, 390 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 6: and he's willing to embrace it all and proud of 391 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 6: the season he's having. And he'll just continue to lead us. 392 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 6: And there's some great opportunity here starting with this game 393 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 6: as well, So I'm excited to watch DJ finish out 394 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 6: the year. 395 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: I spoke to the twenty five year old corner back 396 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: this week about his breakout season. 397 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: DJ. 398 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: We're about three weeks away from the Pro Bowl rosters 399 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: being announced now. Golden said the other day that he 400 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: believes you are deserving. Have you given it much thought 401 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: and what would it mean to be selected? 402 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, I'm definitely. I've never you know, got 403 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 7: it thought for sure. You know, I grew up trying 404 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 7: to make Pro Bowl, all Pro all that. I'm not 405 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 7: gonna let it determine any outcome. Yeah, that's the biggest thing. 406 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: How do you think you've improved this year? And what's 407 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: the biggest reason why? 408 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 7: Honestly, I just improved in every aspect of my game 409 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 7: and It was just from all the preparation I do, 410 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 7: from the hardworking off season and the body right, mental right, 411 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 7: and just a combination and everything. 412 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: Visiting the DJ Turner, I saw a story recently that 413 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: described how you've added daily meditation to your routine. How 414 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: did that come about? 415 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 7: Came about from just traveling kind of, Like I said, 416 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 7: I went to like a whole bunch of Southeast countries 417 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 7: and they talk about meditation all the time out there, 418 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 7: so I was like, you know, kind of looked into it, 419 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 7: and then I used the comap a lot. They always 420 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 7: talked about that son and then on the com mapp 421 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 7: Jay Shaddy, so they just keep telling my meditation. I 422 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 7: just kept on hearing it. So I was like, I 423 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 7: got to try it and tried it consistently. I started 424 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 7: meditating last year, so I'm like in a year and 425 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 7: you know, I'm seeing positive results. 426 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: Jay Shetty wrote a book, How to Think Like a Monk? 427 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? 428 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 5: How to just get mentally strong? 429 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 7: It's different ways to get there's a different path for everybody, 430 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 7: and just just really trying to perfect yourself, you know, 431 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 7: just know how to get yourself into, you know, your 432 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 7: best mental state. And it's not the same for everybody. 433 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: Representing with DJ Turner. We are so used to non 434 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: stop stimulus, looking at our phones, looking at our tablets, 435 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: et cetera. I would think that meditating might be hard. 436 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: Did you have to kind of learn how to do it? 437 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 7: No, for sure, it's definitely hard. Like I tell everybody 438 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 7: else close. 439 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 5: To me, and now with this platform, I'm trying to 440 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 5: get more people. 441 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 7: But like my closest friends, my family did my teammates 442 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 7: always say just sitting around for like fifteen minutes with nothing, 443 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 7: you know, and no phone, no nothing, just at the 444 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 7: time instead of fifteen minutes. 445 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 5: And you realize how long fifteen. 446 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 7: Minutes can really be, And so that's really it's definitely 447 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 7: hard for or you know, just to start out, you 448 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 7: do like three minutes, four minutes, five minutes, and as 449 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 7: gradual keep going. 450 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 5: But it's definitely hard to you know, do it first. 451 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: I'd give my nineteen year old son about two minutes. 452 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 5: Get this point for real. 453 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 8: For real. 454 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 5: I was like, that's it. Though, I was like that's 455 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 5: it when I first started. 456 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: We're visiting the DJ Turner. You've been following the other 457 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: team's best wide receiver more often than not describe that responsibility. 458 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I wanted that role. I told him 459 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 7: I was gonna get that role. 460 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 5: That's yes. 461 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 7: I mean that I just want the best, you know, 462 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 7: like the best versus best. If I think I'm the best, 463 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go against the best. That's really how I 464 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 7: think about it. And I told him that, and I've 465 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 7: earned that role, and that's really how I look about it. 466 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: You're currently leading the NFL and passes defense, pass breakups. 467 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: However you want to look at it with seventeen you 468 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: had five and one game against Green Bay. Now that 469 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: we're this close to the end of this season, is 470 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: it a goal of yours to lead the league in 471 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: that statistic? 472 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it can be. 473 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 7: Like I said, I'm not I've gotten away from goal setting. 474 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 7: That's one of the things I gotten away from because 475 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 7: I did it Rooky year, and once numbers or stuff 476 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 7: like that don't go to where you want, you start 477 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 7: trying to make too much happen and you try to 478 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 7: play out your game. So, like I said, I'm I'm 479 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 7: not getting into like goals or anything like that. I'm 480 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 7: just second care of my responsibility and week by weekest 481 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 7: the number one receiver. 482 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: You are approaching the end of your third season with 483 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: the Bengals. After this year, you will be eligible for 484 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: a second contract. Is it your hope to sign an 485 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: extension prior to next year? 486 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's always a goal. 487 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 7: But you know, I'm a I'm gonna regather all that 488 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 7: after the season with my agents. 489 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 5: And everything like that. Like I said, right now, I 490 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 5: got the Ravens. 491 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that. How does Lamar Jackson impact 492 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: covering somebody? 493 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 5: Just mainly extending the plays. 494 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 7: That's the you know, I'm going against some I don't 495 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 7: even know how many times over the through, you know, 496 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 7: but a lot of times and just extending the plays. 497 00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 7: The players will last. 498 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 5: How long? 499 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: I think you're listed at one hundred and eighty five pounds. 500 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: At some point on Sunday you'll have to tackle two 501 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two pound Derek Henry. How do you 502 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: go about doing that? 503 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 504 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 5: I mean that's just numbers. I don't care. You know, 505 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 5: I'm gonna get them down. 506 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: Is it all about the fundamentals? Is it getting your 507 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: shoulder into the right spot and having the proper leverage 508 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: to get the job done. 509 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that is about will. 510 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'll play it him multiple times too, 511 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 7: you know, the responsibility, that's all it come out. 512 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 5: We all play football. 513 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: A little smile came to your face even when I 514 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: brought it up. 515 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean because I can actually just make it Taple. 516 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 5: You know, that's just it is what it is football 517 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 5: and football. 518 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: You just got to make it Taple, definitely part of 519 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 1: the gig. Let me wrap it up with this question. 520 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: Most of the people in the locker room call you Drago. 521 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about legally going by that as 522 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: opposed to DJ? 523 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 7: Well, I mean my legal name is one Drago, right, 524 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 7: so I mean that is my legal dame. 525 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 5: But I don't go by Drago to the public because. 526 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 7: My dad goes by Okay, so my dad is Drego, 527 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 7: so like everybody will call my dad, you know, that's 528 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 7: my dad's named Drego. So I won't go buy a 529 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 7: DJ That's why, and just a whole bunch of stuff 530 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 7: like that. But if I have a sign, he can 531 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 7: go by whatever, you know, I mean. 532 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: I'll pass it nine and he'll be the next one Drego. 533 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll do that all right. 534 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: Congratulations on a great season, Todate. I really appreciate your 535 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: time and I hope to see your name selected for 536 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl soon. Nah. 537 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, appreciating me so. 538 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by Pai Core, 539 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: Proud to be the Bengals Official HR software provider, by 540 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: Alta Fiber, future proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, 541 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: business and community to a new level, and by Kettering 542 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: Health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health 543 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Finally, it's 544 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: time for this week's Know the Faux segment. Last week, 545 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens celebrated the twenty fifth anniversary of their first 546 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning team, featuring one of the best defenses 547 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: in NFL history. Marvin Lewis was the defensive coordinator and 548 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: his linebacking corps included former UC Bearcat Brad Jackson. Brad's 549 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: remained in the Baltimore area and he joined Dave Lapham 550 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: and me on The Bengals Game Plan Show this week 551 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: to explain why the Ravens are a game under five hundred. 552 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 9: Lamar missed some games, but they were one to three 553 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 9: before you know, He's had his injuries and I mean. 554 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 8: It's bad all the way around. 555 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 9: I mean, I'm here, and you know, obviously this this 556 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 9: past week, after losing to the Pittsburgh on Sunday, you know, 557 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 9: and going under five hundred to you know, the you know, 558 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 9: the fish grease has been ratcheted up on everybody one 559 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 9: Coach Harball, you know, to be fired. And you know, 560 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 9: I'm sure if the outcome of Sunday's game would have 561 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 9: been different, in the outcome would be in Pittsburgh, it'd 562 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 9: be fire coach Tomlins. So it's gonna go back and 563 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 9: forth between fans and media and the talking kids. But 564 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 9: there's just a lot Lamar's not playing well. I think 565 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 9: he hasn't had a touchdown in his last three and 566 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 9: a half games, and so like in any capacity of 567 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 9: you know, so obviously they had one that you know 568 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 9: likely kind of should have had, but you know, unlikely 569 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 9: that that would be a call with this the referees 570 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 9: in this day and age. So you know, defensively, they've 571 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 9: had their issue special teams. You know, that was a 572 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 9: big component. Even in Sunday's game. You missed the pat 573 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 9: you miss the field goals. It's just a collective effort 574 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 9: for whatever reason of why the Ravens are six and seven. 575 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 9: When you know, I mean if you look at you 576 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 9: know what every publication and you know, the four Letter 577 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 9: Broadcasting Network and you know, Worldwide Leader of Sports and 578 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 9: any other network, everyone would think that the Ravens would 579 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 9: be one of the top. 580 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 8: Four teams in the AFC, and unfortunately they're on the 581 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 8: outside looking in. 582 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 9: And uh, it's just been you know, a a collaborative 583 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 9: effort from all three phases as to why they've been 584 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 9: unsuccessful and then that point and unfortunately, there's most people 585 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 9: who thought that this team was gonna win fourteen games 586 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 9: minimum this year. 587 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 8: When you come into the. 588 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 9: Season and you look at you know, who they had 589 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 9: on the schedule, they were already circling wins. And so 590 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 9: unfortunately that's not been the case. And here they are 591 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 9: trying to battle with what four weeks I believe it 592 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 9: left to go and having you know, the Bengals, you 593 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 9: know here on Sunday, and then you got the Patriots 594 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 9: and then the Packers and then the Steelers. So you know, 595 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 9: there's some hope, but there's also a realistic opportunity. 596 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 8: That you could actually go, you know, lose. 597 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 9: The last six, you know, losing to the Bengals on 598 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 9: Thanksgiving night and then losing to the Steelers on Sunday, 599 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 9: and you know, if they go out to Cincinnati and 600 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 9: and don't get it done, and then you got to 601 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 9: go you know, you got the Patriots and then you 602 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 9: finish on the road in Green Bay and you guys know, Lap, 603 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 9: you've played there. 604 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 8: You've done it, Hordy, you've done it. 605 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: You know. 606 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 9: I was fortunate enough that whenever I played the Packers, 607 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 9: it was no later than October. So I can't even 608 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 9: imagine him going to Lambeau and he's December twenty. 609 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,959 Speaker 8: Seventh and trying to figure out what that what that 610 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 8: weather is going to be like, and. 611 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 9: Then finish up with the Steelers in Pittsburgh. So it's 612 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 9: a daunting task. And like they said, the fat Lady 613 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 9: isn't singing, but she's humming. 614 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 10: Yeah. You know, you look at the Baltimore Ravens got stars, 615 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 10: I mean, superstar players. Dereck Henry's a stud. 616 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 3: What a load man. 617 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 10: You know, he's two hundred and fifty pounds sixty three 618 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 10: plus probably closer to six four. I mean that looked 619 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 10: that's like a big linebacker lining up at the running 620 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 10: back position coming downhill and trying to punish you and 621 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 10: punish people. I do think that it's a challenge. Obviously 622 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 10: the game's left for the Ravens, but it's not an impossibility, 623 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 10: particularly if they get that running game going and take 624 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 10: some pressure off Lamar and let Lamar you know, play 625 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 10: action pass and utilize is tight end one of the 626 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 10: best in the business, maybe the best in the business. 627 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 5: I think. 628 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 10: I think that Baltimore is still, you know, some a 629 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 10: football team that people respect and are you know, know 630 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 10: that they have to bring it in order to win 631 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 10: the football game against the Baltimore Ravens. What do you think, Well, I. 632 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 8: Mean, you're right, you know that. But the problem is 633 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 8: is Baltimore fans. 634 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 9: And I hear it a lot, you know when I'm 635 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 9: out in public and started Christmas shopping and doing the events, 636 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 9: and you know, I mean, you look at this season 637 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 9: and you got five games, only five games where Derrick 638 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 9: Henry has had more than. 639 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 8: Twenty touches to than twenty carries, like so they. 640 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 9: I mean you're talking about games where, for example, against 641 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 9: the Bengals and you guys were there on Thanksgiving night, 642 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 9: he's averaging six yards of carry and he finishes with 643 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 9: ten carries and for ten for sixty with along of 644 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 9: twenty eight. He's it's almost like, you know, you remember 645 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 9: the Michael Jordans and Kobe Bryant and basketball players, and 646 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 9: you know, I remember my Bearcat teammates like Melo Levy 647 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 9: used to always argue with Hugs and Ruben Patterson and 648 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 9: those guys that the more shots they got up, the 649 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 9: more of a rhythm that they got into. We've all 650 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 9: been around the game of football for a long time 651 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 9: that it's no different than running backs. The more opportunities 652 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 9: that they get, the more that they get into rhythm, 653 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 9: the more that that engine gets going. And then, of course, 654 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 9: like you said, Lap, the more that it wears on 655 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 9: the defense when you have a two hundred and sixty 656 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 9: pound guide that's. 657 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 8: Still running a four or five, and that is a 658 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 8: home run. 659 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 9: Hitter realistically every time he gets into the secondary, because 660 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 9: we all know this league does not hit anymore of 661 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 9: their a bunch of. 662 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 8: Armed tackling grab on and hold on. 663 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 9: And hope for tacklers, and so you have to give 664 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 9: him the volume. And that's been a frustrating thing that 665 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 9: has been in the Baltimore media. 666 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 8: You know, whether it's social print or television. It's the 667 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 8: fan base. And of course you know Harves. 668 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 9: Is stood up there and answer the questions, and you 669 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 9: know that they tried to do this thing, but you 670 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 9: know they could kind of skate away from it. 671 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 8: When you were playing the. 672 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 9: Bears, who at that time were not hot, and you know, 673 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 9: the Ravens beat him, and then they had Miami and 674 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 9: Minnesota and Cleveland and the Jets, and so when you're 675 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 9: you're kind of it's almost like for yazy, you know, 676 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 9: for the for the young folks out there, that's the 677 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 9: fake gold, you know, where they got into this false 678 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 9: sense of. 679 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 8: Security where they're like, Okay, we can get. 680 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 9: There for fifteen and eighteen and eleven and twelve and 681 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 9: still win games. 682 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 8: And then when you're you know, you're you're running around. 683 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 9: And even the Buffalo lost early in the year, they 684 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 9: lost forty one to forty. He had eighteen carries for 685 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 9: one hundred and sixty nine yards and they basically put. 686 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 8: Him in that, you know, put a jacket on him 687 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 8: in the third and fourth quarters of those games. 688 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 9: So it's frustrating because I know, winning a Super Bowl. 689 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 9: Our team was built because Trent Gill for our quarterback 690 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 9: Tony Banks, our quarterback. They were not the guys that 691 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 9: were going to go out there, and they obviously didn't 692 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 9: have the MVP talent that Lamar Jackson has, and so 693 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 9: we relied on the running game. And so when you're 694 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 9: struggling on offense, as the Ravens have been, with pass protection, 695 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 9: with the offensive line, with Lamar's inaccuracy, with wire receivers 696 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 9: running the wrong routes, with wide receivers dropping the. 697 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 8: Ball, you know, then get act of what you can 698 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 8: do that. 699 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 9: You can count on to hang your hat on, and 700 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 9: that's running Derrick Henry and Keaton Mitchell and those type 701 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 9: of players in the running backs, and obviously Justice Hills 702 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 9: be down and then you have a li you know, 703 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 9: the rookie from Marshall. You know, these are all guys 704 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 9: that are all different backs, that are all been explosive 705 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 9: and can make plays. But yet for some reason, the 706 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 9: offensive coordinating to play calling. And I'm not in the 707 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 9: building right now, you know, I don't even what I 708 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 9: am in the building. 709 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 8: I tend to go to the defensive side and try 710 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 8: to sit and see what's going on there. 711 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 9: You know, But there is a question and a problem 712 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 9: of why you're just not saying Derrick Henry is December. 713 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 9: We've kind of managed your workload all week, all year 714 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 9: for the most part, whether intentionally or unintentionally. 715 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 8: So guess what you're gonna get twenty five. 716 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 9: To thirty carries this Sunday and we're just going to 717 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 9: see what happens. And you know, we did that with 718 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 9: Jamal Lewis, and that's you know, like you said earlier, 719 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 9: that that's why we were world champions. We played to 720 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 9: our defense, we played what was working and what the 721 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 9: other team allowed us to get, and then you were successful. 722 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 8: And that's that's the whole point of the game. 723 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 9: You have to find out every week, in every quarter, 724 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 9: in almost every series, as you guys are well aware of, 725 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 9: it's going to be different and you have to make 726 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 9: those adjustments and find out what can we take advantage 727 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 9: of with our weapons. 728 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 8: And Derek Henry is one of the biggest and best 729 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 8: weapons you could. 730 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 9: Have in the National Football League, which is why he's 731 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 9: over another thousand yards with four games ago. 732 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: Our thanks to Brad Jackson, and here's a quick invitation 733 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: to join Lapp and Wayne box Miller for the Bengals 734 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: pep Rally Show this week. They'll be at the on 735 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: the Rhine Eatery, the food hall on the second floor 736 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: above the downtown Kroger on Friday from two thirty to 737 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,959 Speaker 1: five thirty and their scheduled guest in the final hour 738 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: will be Bengals legend Sam Hubbard. That's going to do 739 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: it for this episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast, brought 740 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: to you by pay Corps, Proud to be the Bengals 741 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: Official HR software provider, by Alta Fiber future proof fiber 742 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: Internet designed to elevate your home, business and community to 743 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: a new level, and by Kettering Health the best care 744 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: for the best fans. 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