WEBVTT - How Long Can Media Attack Biden, plus 'Do Not Disturb POTUS' & Can Cabinet Invoke 25th Amendment Week In Review 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:01.600 Welcome. 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:04.720 It is verdict with Ted Cruz, we can review Ben 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.000 Ferguson with you and my oh my DoD. We have 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.880 some big stories that we talked about this week that 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.239 you may have missed. First up, how long can the 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.160 media go after Joe Biden before they have to get 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.760 back in line. We'll explain the timeline for this. And 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.560 right now they're not liking Joe Biden at all. Plus 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.480 we've now been told that after eight o'clock at night, well, 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:28.800 there's a team around Joe Biden that can help if 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.240 anything happens. Is that actually how the presidency's supposed to work. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:35.680 Will dive into that, because apparently he's put his life 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:40.240 on do not disturb. And finally, is the cabinet actually 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.879 looking at the twenty fifth Amendment to get rid of 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:43.680 Joe Biden. 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.280 It's the weekend review and it starts right now. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.840 I mean, look, I do this fair amount with people 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.760 that I interview right over the years, and I've had 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.960 campaigns or offices say, hey, the Senator or the congressman 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.840 or the governor has as this piece of legislation, Uh, 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.720 if you'd please ask them a question about that. It's 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.160 something it's very important and then it's going to be introduced. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.840 And I'm fine with that. But if you gave me 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.560 four questions to ask and said you get them only, 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:17.080 if you asked these four questions and these four questions only, 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.200 I would tell them to pound sand no matter who 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.400 it was, because that's not doing an interview. That's that 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.320 that that's a scripted moment. You might as well just 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.360 have the President sit there at the White House and say, 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.319 here are the four questions are going to answer today 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:30.280 that I chose. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:36.360 Yeah, Look, it's I've done hundreds of interviews, if not 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.720 maybe thousands of interviews. I've done a crap ton of interviews. Uh, 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.120 to the best of my knowledge, I've certainly never submitted questions. 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.039 The best of my knowledge, no one on my team has. Now, 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.400 what is typical is what you just said. If you're 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:53.120 doing an interview. Let's say I'm going on Hannity, it's 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.200 typical that that that my press team will talk with 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.560 Hannity's producers and they'll discuss some topics. So if you're 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.800 going to talk about the Biden debate, or if you're 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:07.240 going to talk about illegal immigration, or sometimes there's some 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.680 story that just broke of like you know, or the 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:15.760 terrorist you know, being the eight terrorists suspected terrorists from 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.800 Tajikistan just released. If there's a story that just broke, 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.959 the producer will tell my press team, Hey, Sean wants 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:22.760 to ask about this. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:24.000 That's typical. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:28.280 So you have some idea what the topic is you're discussing, 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.600 so that you can be prepared. But I'll tell you 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.840 my guess is of the interviews I do, at least 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.200 half of them, they asked me something that is not 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.680 a topic that they mentioned at all. So you know, 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.480 it's helpful to have. Okay, if we're going to do Israel, 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.680 I should probably be up on the latest developments of 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.640 what's happened on Israel in the last few days. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:53.240 But it is an absolute. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:58.560 Violation of journalistic ethics and norms to simply read the 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:05.080 questions the campaign and and and the absolute arrogance that 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:09.400 the Biden campaign has that they they fully assume that 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.560 that that that fake journalist will be more than happy 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:12.960 to comply. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:15.840 Sara, I got two more questions for you, and it 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.760 deals again with the media. One, the media hypocrisy, I 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.000 think is an all time high. But how long until 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.560 the media gets back in line and it's business as usual. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.080 How many more days can they continue to go after 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.280 Joe Biden if he refuses to drop out? 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.840 Well, I think the instant Biden is out and they 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.560 coordinate the next person, then the media will absolutely fall 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.360 in line and it will become a straight on cheerleading. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.520 It will be hallelujah, hallelujah. The problems are all solved. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.360 Now we must all vote for either Kamalo or Michelle 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.400 Obama and and save America and and stop stop Orange 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.480 man bad. I mean, and the it would be instantaneous. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.520 But you know, let me make a couple of quick 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.440 more observations on that point. You know, as you and 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.280 I were talking about doing interviews and getting questions ahead 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.720 of time, as I said, I've done a gazillion of 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.400 them and and and have not had the questions ahead 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:12.080 of time. But you know, I was actually thinking about it. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.280 On this podcast, we've interviewed a bunch of folks. Now 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.359 I'm not a journalist, I don't pretend to be a journalist, 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.520 but even when we interview people on this podcast, we've 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.840 never given people questions ahead of time. And I actually 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.520 thought back to it to an interview that that that 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.880 that on this podcast. Actually, but before you were my 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.280 co host, what it was Michael Doles and me where 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.920 we interviewed Bill Barr. And we interviewed Bill Barr at 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.440 the Department of Justice. He was the sitting Attorney General. 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.880 And it was interesting. His communication staff was really freaked 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:47.680 out and they were like, Okay, well, well how's this 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.960 going to be? And listen, I've known Bill for twenty 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.920 years and we're friends, and I'm telling him, relax, I'm 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.480 not I'm not gonna play games. This, this is not 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.520 this is not a gotcha interview. This is not trying 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.200 to you know, go stick it to him. And I didn't, 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.080 but it ended up being It was one of our 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:08.600 most listened podcasts we've ever done, in part because Bill 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.279 was someone who would come across on TV as pretty 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.760 stiff and tight and you know, very controlled, and because 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.920 he and I are friends, he was relaxed and we 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.480 were cutting up and Bill as funny as hell. I mean, 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:26.840 he has this wickedly sarcastic sense of humor, and it 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:30.760 came out. We had a great free ranging interview. Then 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:35.320 look what a podcast is good? It sounds like a 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.800 couple of guys sitting at a cafe, having dinner and 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.000 just shooting the breeze talking about what's going on. But 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.039 even then, with someone I'd known twenty years, I don't 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.520 even think I told him the topics we were going 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.320 to discuss. We just sat down and now I wasn't 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.040 playing gotcha games, but that's what we did. But let 0:05:54.040 --> 0:06:02.200 me make a second point about just how astonishingly rapidly 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.760 the media can do one hundred and eighty degree reversal. 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.320 So on this podcast, we've talked a lot about Hunter 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:12.280 Biden and the whole Hunter Biden investigations and the trials, 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:16.039 and for months and months and months and for years 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.760 and years and years, the White House narrative and the 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:23.320 corporate media narrative was Hunter is a poor, troubled son. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:29.880 He struggles with substance abuse, He's a sad soul, and 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.119 just it's all about him. But they've said he has nothing, nothing, 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.880 nothing to do with the White House. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hunter, 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.480 when he was making millions of dollars from every corrupt 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:42.400 oligarch in, every enemy of America across the planet, whether 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.200 the Chinese Communists or the Russians or what have you, 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:49.039 that had nothing to do with favors from Papa Joe. No, no, no, no, no, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.880 Hunter is not at all connected to Joe Biden or 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.279 the White House. That's been there their relentless talking point 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:55.799 for years. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:56.240 Correct. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.960 Yes, all right, I want to read you this paragraph 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:05.960 from Axios on July seventh, behind the Curtain on bendable 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:11.160 Biden versus breaking Point dams quote. We're now in uncharted 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:16.760 historic waters. President Biden, backed by First Lady Jill Biden, 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:21.840 and his convicted son Hunter, who's serving as de facto 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:26.560 gatekeeper to his dad, says that nothing besides an act 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:31.160 of God will persuade him to quit his re election campaign. So, 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.880 without missing a beat, the corporate media can now suddenly 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:40.800 admit Hunter is quote de facto gatekeeper to his dad. 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.760 This is the same Hunter who about twelve minutes ago 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.640 their walking storyline was no, no, no, Hunter's never met 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.440 Joe Biden. I'm sorry they have nothing to do. He 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.600 doesn't even know where the White House is. No, no, no, no, 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.080 pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. This 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:55.920 is not about Joe Biden and his corruption. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.640 Yeah, this is the media. They'll get back in line soon, 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.920 don't worry. I against it, Yeah, I give him a 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.160 week and a half, two weeks, and then they'll start 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.480 dialing back the full court press to get Biden out, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.720 because they're then going to be afraid maybe we can't 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.280 get rid of him by when we want to. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.000 So we got to pull back a little bit. 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.440 And I think going into these conventions coming up, it's 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.240 going to be very interesting to see how they even 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.200 deal with him. If Joe Biden's still there at the 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.520 convention and he's quote still the guy. 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.239 I also think this. I gotta ask him on his question. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.720 Do you think Donald Trump is going to have to, 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.199 in essence, just put the VP pick on hold until 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.680 they figure out who they're running against? 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:35.760 That is an awfully good question. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.120 I mean, I don't know, Luke away from you and 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.560 I go into the convention. Yeah, yeah, we have no 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.800 idea who the VP candidate is, and I'm not sure 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:44.480 he does either. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.560 Look, I it is not a crazy question to ask. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.439 The Trump campaign has said repeatedly that they'll announce the 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.760 VP by the convention, and you know, usually the VP 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.559 gives a big speech at the convention the day before 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:04.480 the the president does. It is a tricky question because 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.400 if you don't know who you're running against. That is 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:10.480 certainly a real factor in trying to decide who VP is. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.320 It would I have not looked at the legal questions 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.520 at how complicated it would be to dame a VP 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:21.360 after the convention, but it would not be insane for 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.160 Trump to delay that choice until he has some real 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:26.840 confidence who his opponent's going to be. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.959 Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.559 you can go back and listen to the full podcast 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:37.600 from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, the 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:41.600 President sending the notes. You have the squad that's backed 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.240 in the Congressional Black Caucus is saying, hey, we need 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.000 to put this all to bed. Joe's our guide. Joe's 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.520 made it clear, Hey, I'm not going anywhere. He did 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.560 that on Morning Joe. We mentioned that in the last part, 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:56.400 I think. And then you've got this going on with 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.439 the media. They're still putting the four court Press here 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.760 saying he's a White House lying to you. But we're 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.200 going to prove it in essence, and that's why they 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:09.199 do this long interview. Now, you gotta look at the calendar. 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.480 Joe Biden is supposed to be on the debate stage 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:19.000 with Donald Trump September tenth on ABC News. ABC News, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.120 by the way, has been attacking the president as well. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.920 Stephanopoulos said after doing the interview with the President that 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.559 was supposed to quote save him the other day, that 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.679 he said, there's no way he believes the president could 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.440 serve for another four years. 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.760 Does he show up with this debate? Does he cancel it? 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.040 Does he have to show up to have a chance 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.720 in hell in November if he's still the nominee. 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.720 So I don't believe there will be a debate between 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:47.000 Donald Trump and Joe Biden in September. I don't think 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.400 it'll happen now. Look, I don't think Joe Biden will 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.920 be the nominee in September. I continue to believe there's 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.000 an eighty percent chance that he's not the nominee. He's 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.360 digging in, he's holding on with all of his might. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.160 But all right, here's another story that shows the press 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.640 turning on him. This is from the Wall Street Journal quote. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:09.560 German officials, aware of Biden's fatigue at night, sought to 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.640 accommodate the president by planning a June twenty twenty two 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:16.520 event with German Chancellor Olaf Schultz in the early evening. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:21.040 The informal event, a soiree at the alpine resort Schlas 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:25.120 el Maou during the Group of Seven summit, was arranged 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.440 as a confidential meeting on Ukraine in a relaxed setting. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:35.440 Biden didn't show, surprising the Chancellor and his aides. Officials said. Instead, 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:39.000 Secretary of State Antony Blinkett arrived and announced that Biden 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.400 had to go to bed. According to two people who 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.560 were there, so he is now no longer able to 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.719 stay up to meet with heads of state to discuss 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:52.640 matters of war and peace. That's dangerous and the press 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:53.520 is reporting on it. 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.880 And to make that point, Peter Doucy asked the question 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.520 at the White House from Fox Today. Hey, if the 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.000 president's only the president till I don't know eight o'clock 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.000 at night, what happens if someone shoots at nuke? 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:10.680 Listen to this well. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.600 He also said he's sharpest before eight pm. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.520 So say that the Pentagon at some point picks up 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:19.840 an incoming nuke, it's eleven pm. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:21.959 Who do you call the first lady. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.480 He has a team that lets him know of any 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.320 news that is pertinent and important to the American people. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.960 He has someone or that is decided obviously with his 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.880 National Security Council, and who gets to tell him that 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:38.520 news center? 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.360 I got to go back to just the White House 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:45.600 here for her response is he has a team, so 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.560 calm down. The president sleeping. I don't think that sits 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.320 well with the American people anymore. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.120 No, it doesn't. That's actually a terrifying response that if 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.600 something happens at eleven PM, well, Joe Biden's not capable 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.040 to deal with it. But he has a team, and 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.000 there's some underlaying appointed to the National Security Council, and 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.480 the underlink can deal with it. And you know, in 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.320 response to that, I want to play a political ad. 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.839 Just listen to this ad and then we're going to 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:11.800 talk about what it was. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.800 It's three am and your children are safe into sleep, 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:18.400 but there's a phone in the White House, and it's 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:23.079 really something's happening in the world. Your vote will decide 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.320 who answers that call. Whether it's someone who already knows 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.840 the world's leaders, knows the military, someone tested and ready 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.520 to lead in a dangerous world. It's three am and 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.480 your children are safe into sleep. Who do you want 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:37.600 answering the phone? 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.640 I'm Hillary Clinton and I approved this message. 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.360 No, I mean they made this the issue, mister senator, 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.920 right like, they're like, you want to be mister president, 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.680 then you better answer that call at three am. 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.840 Well, and let me say to folks listening to this podcast, 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.719 to who are relatively young, you may not have heard 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.679 that ad before. You might have been thinking, as you're 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.600 listening to this ad, wow, this is a new Trump ad. 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.520 This is a really powerful Trump ad. But then at 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.840 the very end you get I'm Hillary Clinton and I 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.480 approved this message. So Hillary Clinton ran that ad in 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.640 the year two thousand and eight, and she was running 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.720 it against Barack Obama. She was saying Barack Obama was 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.680 young and inexperienced, and she was much better able to 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:25.560 answer the phone than he was. Now, regardless of who 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:30.040 was right in that argument, Today's Biden Whitehouse, it's not 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.320 a three am phone call. They're saying at eleven pm, sorry, 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.000 there is no commander in chief, but you know the 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.480 deputy Special assistant is here and ready to solve the problem. 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.000 Well, it also says the world leaders and it is 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.200 terrifying to think about this. Hey, here are the best 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:49.240 hours to do something, whether it's attack this country, whether 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.960 you're a terrorist, or whether it's to do something around 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.120 the world, because this will be a long period of 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:59.600 time before you get a awake president that would even 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.840 respect bond or say anything. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:04.360 You know it is. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.240 It's why I do not believe Biden is going to 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.640 be the nominee, because the facts are piling up and 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:16.960 it's becoming indefensible. It may be Michelle Obama, it may 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.520 be Kamala Harris, but I think the d's that they 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:24.040 are going to pull the plug. They are terrified, they 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:30.840 are panicking, and every day as the press continues to turn. Look, 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:37.080 you mentioned George Stephanopolis. George Stephanopolis was asked if he 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:41.040 could serve any four more years and he says no, 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.760 he doesn't think he can. And then Stephanopolis backed away 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.480 and said, quote earlier today, I responded to a question 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.680 from a passer by, I shouldn't have So he's backing 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.920 away from telling the truth exactly. Well, you know that 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:57.960 they try not to do that, the press. Yeah, it's again. 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.920 I go back to what I said on this show. 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:01.920 I don't know a week ago. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.480 I think they've got another what eight ten days here 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.840 to go all in to try to get him out. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:10.880 And after that they may be stuck with this guy. 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.160 But now, look your prediction, you've been right for quite 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.720 a few times. It still could be somebody at the convention, 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.720 and that somebody could still be Michelle Obama. Do you 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.600 still think there's a decent chance of that. 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.680 I stayed by the same odds I had on Monday's podcast. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.640 I think there is a twenty percent chance the Democrat 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.640 nominee is Joe Biden. I think there's a forty percent 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.720 chance the Democrat nominee is Michelle Obama. And I think 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.480 there's a forty percent chance the Democratic nominee is Kamala Harris. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.160 As before, if you want to hear the rest of 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.040 this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.600 dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.640 entire thing. I want to get back to the big story. 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.000 Number three of the week you may have missed here 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.160 is the Bombschelsea and report that Cabinet secretaries only some 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.800 many questions. But my question now is is this being 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.600 done on purpose so that they may actually start talking 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:06.800 about the twenty fifth Amendment. 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.920 Listen to how CNN blew this up today. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.639 At the White House perspective now with Cennce Mjlee. 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.640 Who's there for is MJ. 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.240 You and your colleagues have some reporting on the mood 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:18.760 behind the scenes. 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:20.200 What are you hearing from your sources? 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.040 Well, boris, there's certainly been a lot of confusion and 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:28.000 anger and sadness inside the White House, across the administration, 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:32.320 the campaign, and across the Democratic Party more broadly, since 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:36.720 the President's really halting and shocking debate performance. My colleagues 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.000 and I have spoken over the course of the last 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:43.400 two weeks to dozens of Democratic sources, including I should 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.480 note senior Democrats who have spent real time with the 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.119 President and in some cases have known the president for years. 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.200 And what has been striking is that none of them 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.719 had ever seen this version of President Biden that we 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.840 all saw on the debate stage that was so off 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:04.000 altering and days and plenty of officials that we spoke 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.240 with said, look, of course, we've known that the President 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.159 has aged. He is certainly not the same person that 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:14.880 we know from say, a year ago. But what they 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:18.280 had said, and that was so noteworthy, is that they 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.920 said they couldn't have possibly known about the full extent 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.399 of the president's decline, and what many of them blame 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.960 at this point is this apparatus and daily operation that 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:33.200 is built around the president that is so painfully choreographed 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.359 and stage managed. They said, that is designed to prevent 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:42.600 the president from being often out in these unscripted settings 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.040 for an extended period of time, and that really what 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.479 that meant was that only a small circle of inner 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.960 circle of advisors and perhaps family members could have known 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.520 about sort of this full picture of the president's condition. 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:00.080 Just one example that is in our story is that, 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:05.560 according to two sources, before cabinet meetings that the president attends, 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:10.760 cabinet officials will submit their questions and talking points, key 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.560 talking points and bullet points that they plan to present 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.760 to the president in these closed door meetings. This is 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.600 how one source described it. They said, the entire display 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:22.240 is kind of an act. They would come and say, hey, 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.720 the President is going to call on you about twenty 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.199 five minutes in and ask this question, what are the 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.880 bulletpoints that you'll respond with. Now, the White House's defense 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.040 has been that that is standard practice for any administration. 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.640 They said, in a setting like this, you never want 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:41.040 the president to be not aware of what is going 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:41.800 to be discussed. 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:43.840 You look at this Senator. 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.280 I sit there and I'm like, Okay, You've got people 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.240 that serve at the pleasure of the president who are 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.040 now looking out for their own best interests. 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:55.800 They don't want to lose their power. 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.000 You got people on his campaign that apparently have the 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:03.000 same mentality as these cabinet members, And all the leagues 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:07.399 about Joe Biden are coming from within. Now you can't 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:14.119 control them. White House leaks destroy presidencies. And now it's like, 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.040 if you're leaking this and you're a senior cabinet member, 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.280 are you doing it to prep the country for possibly 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:21.080 the twenty fifth? 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.160 Look, I think that prospect is rising. I gotta say, also, 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.520 the White House defense, well, this is standard operating procedure. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:29.560 Listen. 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:35.040 I have been in literally hundreds of meetings with presidents, 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:40.600 whether Donald Trump or Barack Obama, and I've never been 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.440 in one meeting where we had talking points and it 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:47.680 was choreographed. That doesn't happen. I talked to Donald Trump 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.120 a couple of days on the go in the phone call. 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:50.680 He didn't know what I was going to say. I 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:52.560 didn't know what he was gonna say, because you're talking 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:56.600 to an actual human being. Every day when senators meet, 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:59.840 we don't read scripts. Would you'd like to do this job? 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.000 You actually have to be able to talk about colleagues 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.080 and say, okay, what's going on, and ask questions and 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:07.560 discuss things. Now, look, you'll read a speech that's commonplace, 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.280 but at a meeting, a cabinet meeting where they're supposed 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:12.520 to be your top advisors. I meet with my senior 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:17.000 staff every week. My senior staff don't come in. I 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.000 don't ask them give me the talking points of what 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:23.000 you're going to say before you say it, because professionals 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:27.239 are able to have a conversation, listen, and process information, and, 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:31.040 by the way, then ask follow up questions, what about this? Well, 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:32.960 should we do this? What do you think about this? Okay, 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:37.520 let's go down this direction. That's actually the way presidents operate. 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:41.800 I've been in bunches of free flowing presidential meetings with 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.439