1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: It is verdict with Ted Cruz, we can review Ben 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: Ferguson with you and my oh my DoD. We have 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: some big stories that we talked about this week that 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 2: you may have missed. First up, how long can the 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: media go after Joe Biden before they have to get 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: back in line. We'll explain the timeline for this. And 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: right now they're not liking Joe Biden at all. Plus 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: we've now been told that after eight o'clock at night, well, 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: there's a team around Joe Biden that can help if 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: anything happens. Is that actually how the presidency's supposed to work. 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: Will dive into that, because apparently he's put his life 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: on do not disturb. And finally, is the cabinet actually 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: looking at the twenty fifth Amendment to get rid of 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: It's the weekend review and it starts right now. 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I do this fair amount with people 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: that I interview right over the years, and I've had 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: campaigns or offices say, hey, the Senator or the congressman 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: or the governor has as this piece of legislation, Uh, 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: if you'd please ask them a question about that. It's 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: something it's very important and then it's going to be introduced. 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: And I'm fine with that. But if you gave me 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: four questions to ask and said you get them only, 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: if you asked these four questions and these four questions only, 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: I would tell them to pound sand no matter who 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: it was, because that's not doing an interview. That's that 28 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: that that's a scripted moment. You might as well just 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: have the President sit there at the White House and say, 30 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: here are the four questions are going to answer today 31 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: that I chose. 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it's I've done hundreds of interviews, if not 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: maybe thousands of interviews. I've done a crap ton of interviews. Uh, 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: to the best of my knowledge, I've certainly never submitted questions. 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 3: The best of my knowledge, no one on my team has. Now, 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: what is typical is what you just said. If you're 37 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: doing an interview. Let's say I'm going on Hannity, it's 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: typical that that that my press team will talk with 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: Hannity's producers and they'll discuss some topics. So if you're 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: going to talk about the Biden debate, or if you're 41 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: going to talk about illegal immigration, or sometimes there's some 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: story that just broke of like you know, or the 43 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: terrorist you know, being the eight terrorists suspected terrorists from 44 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: Tajikistan just released. If there's a story that just broke, 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 3: the producer will tell my press team, Hey, Sean wants 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: to ask about this. 47 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: That's typical. 48 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: So you have some idea what the topic is you're discussing, 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: so that you can be prepared. But I'll tell you 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: my guess is of the interviews I do, at least 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: half of them, they asked me something that is not 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: a topic that they mentioned at all. So you know, 53 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: it's helpful to have. Okay, if we're going to do Israel, 54 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: I should probably be up on the latest developments of 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: what's happened on Israel in the last few days. 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: But it is an absolute. 57 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: Violation of journalistic ethics and norms to simply read the 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: questions the campaign and and and the absolute arrogance that 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: the Biden campaign has that they they fully assume that 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: that that that fake journalist will be more than happy 61 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: to comply. 62 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: Sara, I got two more questions for you, and it 63 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: deals again with the media. One, the media hypocrisy, I 64 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: think is an all time high. But how long until 65 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: the media gets back in line and it's business as usual. 66 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: How many more days can they continue to go after 67 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: Joe Biden if he refuses to drop out? 68 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think the instant Biden is out and they 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: coordinate the next person, then the media will absolutely fall 70 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: in line and it will become a straight on cheerleading. 71 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: It will be hallelujah, hallelujah. The problems are all solved. 72 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: Now we must all vote for either Kamalo or Michelle 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: Obama and and save America and and stop stop Orange 74 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: man bad. I mean, and the it would be instantaneous. 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: But you know, let me make a couple of quick 76 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: more observations on that point. You know, as you and 77 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: I were talking about doing interviews and getting questions ahead 78 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: of time, as I said, I've done a gazillion of 79 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: them and and and have not had the questions ahead 80 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: of time. But you know, I was actually thinking about it. 81 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: On this podcast, we've interviewed a bunch of folks. Now 82 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: I'm not a journalist, I don't pretend to be a journalist, 83 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: but even when we interview people on this podcast, we've 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 3: never given people questions ahead of time. And I actually 85 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: thought back to it to an interview that that that 86 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: that on this podcast. Actually, but before you were my 87 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 3: co host, what it was Michael Doles and me where 88 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: we interviewed Bill Barr. And we interviewed Bill Barr at 89 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: the Department of Justice. He was the sitting Attorney General. 90 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: And it was interesting. His communication staff was really freaked 91 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: out and they were like, Okay, well, well how's this 92 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: going to be? And listen, I've known Bill for twenty 93 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: years and we're friends, and I'm telling him, relax, I'm 94 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: not I'm not gonna play games. This, this is not 95 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: this is not a gotcha interview. This is not trying 96 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: to you know, go stick it to him. And I didn't, 97 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: but it ended up being It was one of our 98 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: most listened podcasts we've ever done, in part because Bill 99 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: was someone who would come across on TV as pretty 100 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: stiff and tight and you know, very controlled, and because 101 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: he and I are friends, he was relaxed and we 102 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: were cutting up and Bill as funny as hell. I mean, 103 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: he has this wickedly sarcastic sense of humor, and it 104 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: came out. We had a great free ranging interview. Then 105 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: look what a podcast is good? It sounds like a 106 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: couple of guys sitting at a cafe, having dinner and 107 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: just shooting the breeze talking about what's going on. But 108 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: even then, with someone I'd known twenty years, I don't 109 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: even think I told him the topics we were going 110 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: to discuss. We just sat down and now I wasn't 111 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: playing gotcha games, but that's what we did. But let 112 00:05:54,040 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: me make a second point about just how astonishingly rapidly 113 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: the media can do one hundred and eighty degree reversal. 114 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: So on this podcast, we've talked a lot about Hunter 115 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: Biden and the whole Hunter Biden investigations and the trials, 116 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: and for months and months and months and for years 117 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: and years and years, the White House narrative and the 118 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: corporate media narrative was Hunter is a poor, troubled son. 119 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: He struggles with substance abuse, He's a sad soul, and 120 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 3: just it's all about him. But they've said he has nothing, nothing, 121 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: nothing to do with the White House. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hunter, 122 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: when he was making millions of dollars from every corrupt 123 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: oligarch in, every enemy of America across the planet, whether 124 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: the Chinese Communists or the Russians or what have you, 125 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 3: that had nothing to do with favors from Papa Joe. No, no, no, no, no, 126 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: Hunter is not at all connected to Joe Biden or 127 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: the White House. That's been there their relentless talking point 128 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 3: for years. 129 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: Correct. 130 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: Yes, all right, I want to read you this paragraph 131 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: from Axios on July seventh, behind the Curtain on bendable 132 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: Biden versus breaking Point dams quote. We're now in uncharted 133 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: historic waters. President Biden, backed by First Lady Jill Biden, 134 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: and his convicted son Hunter, who's serving as de facto 135 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: gatekeeper to his dad, says that nothing besides an act 136 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: of God will persuade him to quit his re election campaign. So, 137 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: without missing a beat, the corporate media can now suddenly 138 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: admit Hunter is quote de facto gatekeeper to his dad. 139 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: This is the same Hunter who about twelve minutes ago 140 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: their walking storyline was no, no, no, Hunter's never met 141 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. I'm sorry they have nothing to do. He 142 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: doesn't even know where the White House is. No, no, no, no, 143 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. This 144 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: is not about Joe Biden and his corruption. 145 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the media. They'll get back in line soon, 146 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: don't worry. I against it, Yeah, I give him a 147 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: week and a half, two weeks, and then they'll start 148 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: dialing back the full court press to get Biden out, 149 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: because they're then going to be afraid maybe we can't 150 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: get rid of him by when we want to. 151 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: So we got to pull back a little bit. 152 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: And I think going into these conventions coming up, it's 153 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: going to be very interesting to see how they even 154 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: deal with him. If Joe Biden's still there at the 155 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: convention and he's quote still the guy. 156 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 1: I also think this. I gotta ask him on his question. 157 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: Do you think Donald Trump is going to have to, 158 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: in essence, just put the VP pick on hold until 159 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: they figure out who they're running against? 160 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: That is an awfully good question. 161 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, Luke away from you and 162 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: I go into the convention. Yeah, yeah, we have no 163 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: idea who the VP candidate is, and I'm not sure 164 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: he does either. 165 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: Look, I it is not a crazy question to ask. 166 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: The Trump campaign has said repeatedly that they'll announce the 167 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: VP by the convention, and you know, usually the VP 168 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 3: gives a big speech at the convention the day before 169 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: the the president does. It is a tricky question because 170 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: if you don't know who you're running against. That is 171 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: certainly a real factor in trying to decide who VP is. 172 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: It would I have not looked at the legal questions 173 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: at how complicated it would be to dame a VP 174 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: after the convention, but it would not be insane for 175 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: Trump to delay that choice until he has some real 176 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 3: confidence who his opponent's going to be. 177 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 178 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 179 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, the 180 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: President sending the notes. You have the squad that's backed 181 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: in the Congressional Black Caucus is saying, hey, we need 182 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: to put this all to bed. Joe's our guide. Joe's 183 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: made it clear, Hey, I'm not going anywhere. He did 184 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: that on Morning Joe. We mentioned that in the last part, 185 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: I think. And then you've got this going on with 186 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: the media. They're still putting the four court Press here 187 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: saying he's a White House lying to you. But we're 188 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: going to prove it in essence, and that's why they 189 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: do this long interview. Now, you gotta look at the calendar. 190 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is supposed to be on the debate stage 191 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: with Donald Trump September tenth on ABC News. ABC News, 192 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: by the way, has been attacking the president as well. 193 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: Stephanopoulos said after doing the interview with the President that 194 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: was supposed to quote save him the other day, that 195 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: he said, there's no way he believes the president could 196 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: serve for another four years. 197 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: Does he show up with this debate? Does he cancel it? 198 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: Does he have to show up to have a chance 199 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: in hell in November if he's still the nominee. 200 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: So I don't believe there will be a debate between 201 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Joe Biden in September. I don't think 202 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: it'll happen now. Look, I don't think Joe Biden will 203 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: be the nominee in September. I continue to believe there's 204 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: an eighty percent chance that he's not the nominee. He's 205 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: digging in, he's holding on with all of his might. 206 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: But all right, here's another story that shows the press 207 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: turning on him. This is from the Wall Street Journal quote. 208 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: German officials, aware of Biden's fatigue at night, sought to 209 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: accommodate the president by planning a June twenty twenty two 210 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: event with German Chancellor Olaf Schultz in the early evening. 211 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: The informal event, a soiree at the alpine resort Schlas 212 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: el Maou during the Group of Seven summit, was arranged 213 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: as a confidential meeting on Ukraine in a relaxed setting. 214 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: Biden didn't show, surprising the Chancellor and his aides. Officials said. Instead, 215 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: Secretary of State Antony Blinkett arrived and announced that Biden 216 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: had to go to bed. According to two people who 217 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: were there, so he is now no longer able to 218 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 3: stay up to meet with heads of state to discuss 219 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: matters of war and peace. That's dangerous and the press 220 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: is reporting on it. 221 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: And to make that point, Peter Doucy asked the question 222 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: at the White House from Fox Today. Hey, if the 223 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: president's only the president till I don't know eight o'clock 224 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: at night, what happens if someone shoots at nuke? 225 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: Listen to this well. 226 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 4: He also said he's sharpest before eight pm. 227 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 5: So say that the Pentagon at some point picks up 228 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 5: an incoming nuke, it's eleven pm. 229 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: Who do you call the first lady. 230 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 6: He has a team that lets him know of any 231 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 6: news that is pertinent and important to the American people. 232 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 6: He has someone or that is decided obviously with his 233 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 6: National Security Council, and who gets to tell him that 234 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 6: news center? 235 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: I got to go back to just the White House 236 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: here for her response is he has a team, so 237 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 2: calm down. The president sleeping. I don't think that sits 238 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: well with the American people anymore. 239 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. That's actually a terrifying response that if 240 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: something happens at eleven PM, well, Joe Biden's not capable 241 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 3: to deal with it. But he has a team, and 242 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: there's some underlaying appointed to the National Security Council, and 243 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: the underlink can deal with it. And you know, in 244 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: response to that, I want to play a political ad. 245 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 3: Just listen to this ad and then we're going to 246 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: talk about what it was. 247 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 7: It's three am and your children are safe into sleep, 248 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 7: but there's a phone in the White House, and it's 249 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 7: really something's happening in the world. Your vote will decide 250 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 7: who answers that call. Whether it's someone who already knows 251 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 7: the world's leaders, knows the military, someone tested and ready 252 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 7: to lead in a dangerous world. It's three am and 253 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 7: your children are safe into sleep. Who do you want 254 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 7: answering the phone? 255 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 6: I'm Hillary Clinton and I approved this message. 256 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: No, I mean they made this the issue, mister senator, 257 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: right like, they're like, you want to be mister president, 258 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: then you better answer that call at three am. 259 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: Well, and let me say to folks listening to this podcast, 260 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 3: to who are relatively young, you may not have heard 261 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 3: that ad before. You might have been thinking, as you're 262 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: listening to this ad, wow, this is a new Trump ad. 263 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: This is a really powerful Trump ad. But then at 264 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: the very end you get I'm Hillary Clinton and I 265 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: approved this message. So Hillary Clinton ran that ad in 266 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: the year two thousand and eight, and she was running 267 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: it against Barack Obama. She was saying Barack Obama was 268 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: young and inexperienced, and she was much better able to 269 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: answer the phone than he was. Now, regardless of who 270 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: was right in that argument, Today's Biden Whitehouse, it's not 271 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: a three am phone call. They're saying at eleven pm, sorry, 272 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: there is no commander in chief, but you know the 273 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: deputy Special assistant is here and ready to solve the problem. 274 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: Well, it also says the world leaders and it is 275 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: terrifying to think about this. Hey, here are the best 276 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: hours to do something, whether it's attack this country, whether 277 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: you're a terrorist, or whether it's to do something around 278 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: the world, because this will be a long period of 279 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: time before you get a awake president that would even 280 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: respect bond or say anything. 281 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 7: You know it is. 282 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: It's why I do not believe Biden is going to 283 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: be the nominee, because the facts are piling up and 284 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: it's becoming indefensible. It may be Michelle Obama, it may 285 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: be Kamala Harris, but I think the d's that they 286 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: are going to pull the plug. They are terrified, they 287 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: are panicking, and every day as the press continues to turn. Look, 288 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: you mentioned George Stephanopolis. George Stephanopolis was asked if he 289 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: could serve any four more years and he says no, 290 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: he doesn't think he can. And then Stephanopolis backed away 291 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: and said, quote earlier today, I responded to a question 292 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: from a passer by, I shouldn't have So he's backing 293 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: away from telling the truth exactly. Well, you know that 294 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: they try not to do that, the press. Yeah, it's again. 295 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: I go back to what I said on this show. 296 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: I don't know a week ago. 297 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: I think they've got another what eight ten days here 298 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: to go all in to try to get him out. 299 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: And after that they may be stuck with this guy. 300 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: But now, look your prediction, you've been right for quite 301 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: a few times. It still could be somebody at the convention, 302 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: and that somebody could still be Michelle Obama. Do you 303 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: still think there's a decent chance of that. 304 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: I stayed by the same odds I had on Monday's podcast. 305 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: I think there is a twenty percent chance the Democrat 306 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: nominee is Joe Biden. I think there's a forty percent 307 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: chance the Democrat nominee is Michelle Obama. And I think 308 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: there's a forty percent chance the Democratic nominee is Kamala Harris. 309 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: As before, if you want to hear the rest of 310 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 311 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the 312 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big story. 313 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: Number three of the week you may have missed here 314 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: is the Bombschelsea and report that Cabinet secretaries only some 315 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: many questions. But my question now is is this being 316 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: done on purpose so that they may actually start talking 317 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: about the twenty fifth Amendment. 318 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: Listen to how CNN blew this up today. 319 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 5: At the White House perspective now with Cennce Mjlee. 320 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: Who's there for is MJ. 321 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 5: You and your colleagues have some reporting on the mood 322 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 5: behind the scenes. 323 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: What are you hearing from your sources? 324 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 8: Well, boris, there's certainly been a lot of confusion and 325 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 8: anger and sadness inside the White House, across the administration, 326 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 8: the campaign, and across the Democratic Party more broadly, since 327 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 8: the President's really halting and shocking debate performance. My colleagues 328 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 8: and I have spoken over the course of the last 329 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 8: two weeks to dozens of Democratic sources, including I should 330 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 8: note senior Democrats who have spent real time with the 331 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 8: President and in some cases have known the president for years. 332 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 8: And what has been striking is that none of them 333 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 8: had ever seen this version of President Biden that we 334 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 8: all saw on the debate stage that was so off 335 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 8: altering and days and plenty of officials that we spoke 336 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 8: with said, look, of course, we've known that the President 337 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 8: has aged. He is certainly not the same person that 338 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 8: we know from say, a year ago. But what they 339 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 8: had said, and that was so noteworthy, is that they 340 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 8: said they couldn't have possibly known about the full extent 341 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 8: of the president's decline, and what many of them blame 342 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 8: at this point is this apparatus and daily operation that 343 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 8: is built around the president that is so painfully choreographed 344 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 8: and stage managed. They said, that is designed to prevent 345 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 8: the president from being often out in these unscripted settings 346 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 8: for an extended period of time, and that really what 347 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 8: that meant was that only a small circle of inner 348 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 8: circle of advisors and perhaps family members could have known 349 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 8: about sort of this full picture of the president's condition. 350 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 8: Just one example that is in our story is that, 351 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 8: according to two sources, before cabinet meetings that the president attends, 352 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 8: cabinet officials will submit their questions and talking points, key 353 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 8: talking points and bullet points that they plan to present 354 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 8: to the president in these closed door meetings. This is 355 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 8: how one source described it. They said, the entire display 356 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 8: is kind of an act. They would come and say, hey, 357 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 8: the President is going to call on you about twenty 358 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 8: five minutes in and ask this question, what are the 359 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 8: bulletpoints that you'll respond with. Now, the White House's defense 360 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 8: has been that that is standard practice for any administration. 361 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 8: They said, in a setting like this, you never want 362 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 8: the president to be not aware of what is going 363 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 8: to be discussed. 364 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: You look at this Senator. 365 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: I sit there and I'm like, Okay, You've got people 366 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: that serve at the pleasure of the president who are 367 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: now looking out for their own best interests. 368 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: They don't want to lose their power. 369 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: You got people on his campaign that apparently have the 370 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: same mentality as these cabinet members, And all the leagues 371 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: about Joe Biden are coming from within. Now you can't 372 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: control them. White House leaks destroy presidencies. And now it's like, 373 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: if you're leaking this and you're a senior cabinet member, 374 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: are you doing it to prep the country for possibly 375 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: the twenty fifth? 376 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 3: Look, I think that prospect is rising. I gotta say, also, 377 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: the White House defense, well, this is standard operating procedure. 378 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: Listen. 379 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: I have been in literally hundreds of meetings with presidents, 380 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: whether Donald Trump or Barack Obama, and I've never been 381 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 3: in one meeting where we had talking points and it 382 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: was choreographed. That doesn't happen. I talked to Donald Trump 383 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: a couple of days on the go in the phone call. 384 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: He didn't know what I was going to say. I 385 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: didn't know what he was gonna say, because you're talking 386 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: to an actual human being. Every day when senators meet, 387 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: we don't read scripts. Would you'd like to do this job? 388 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: You actually have to be able to talk about colleagues 389 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: and say, okay, what's going on, and ask questions and 390 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: discuss things. Now, look, you'll read a speech that's commonplace, 391 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: but at a meeting, a cabinet meeting where they're supposed 392 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: to be your top advisors. I meet with my senior 393 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: staff every week. My senior staff don't come in. I 394 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: don't ask them give me the talking points of what 395 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: you're going to say before you say it, because professionals 396 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 3: are able to have a conversation, listen, and process information, and, 397 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: by the way, then ask follow up questions, what about this? Well, 398 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: should we do this? What do you think about this? Okay, 399 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: let's go down this direction. That's actually the way presidents operate. 400 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 3: I've been in bunches of free flowing presidential meetings with 401 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 3: Trump or we'd be all over the place that you 402 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 3: got people argue on one side and argue in the other, 403 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: and Trump'll say, what about this? And I mean we 404 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 3: would you know? I've been up in the White House 405 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 3: residence with him and a couple other senators with people 406 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: screaming at each other till ten ten thirty at night. 407 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: That is dramatically different from the Kabooki theater or that 408 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: Joe Biden was putting on now. To be clear, his 409 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 3: entire cabinet was complicit, His entire White House staff was complicit. 410 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 3: The Democrats in Congress were complicit. They all knew this. 411 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: They're all saying, gosh, we're shocked, just absolutely shocked. I've 412 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 3: told you Biden won't meet with Republican senators. That's been 413 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 3: true for three and a half years. 414 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: I haven't had any meeting on the president I remembers now, right, Yeah, 415 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: it's not just you guys, it's now the cabinet. 416 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: He won't even meet with yet. 417 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: Look, when Republican senators meet to have lunch, we talk 418 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: about how weird it is that we haven't talked to 419 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. We all know Joe, he was a man 420 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 3: of the Senate for forty years, but they won't let 421 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: him meet with us. Because this has been obvious for 422 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: three and a half years. And the media, the Democrats, 423 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 3: they were all complicit until the debate thrust it unavoidably 424 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 3: in front of the public. And now they're all running scared. 425 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: Does this change the calculus in your mind for Democrats 426 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: moving forward? I mean I thought by the end of 427 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: this week they would get back in line behind him. 428 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: We don't seem to have that happening at all. And 429 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: it now seems that from within are the people that 430 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: are hurting him the most. 431 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. 432 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: Jake Tamper went on his show on CNN today and 433 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: this is what he said. 434 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 5: Let's bring in our panel. And on that note, I 435 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 5: want to share something with you all that a longtime 436 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 5: Biden advisor just texted me. Okay, he or she said, quote, 437 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 5: I just think there's an unfortunate inevitability to all this. 438 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 5: I'm sad because I've known him a long time and 439 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 5: he's a good man. 440 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm angry at his. 441 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 5: Inner circle who have not served him well and at 442 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 5: times committed malpractice in their service. And I am frustrated 443 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 5: at the family, the Biden family, for not expanding the 444 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 5: circle so there would be at least a truthteller or 445 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 5: two in their midst. They created a perfect storm of 446 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 5: an echo chamber and it is biting them all in 447 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 5: the ass again as we them. Jay apologies for the 448 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 5: salty language, but this is the extent of the frustration, Gloria, 449 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 5: your reaction. 450 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: I get this is Jake Tapper. He's not burning somebody. 451 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: This advisor, this long time advisor, I think made it 452 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: very clear. 453 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: That for well, listen, listen like Ron on TV, Yeah, listen, 454 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: ron Klain sent that text expecting that Jake Tapper would would. 455 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: Read it on air. 456 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 3: And by the way, I don't know it was Ron Klain. 457 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm just just picking up Yeah. 458 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: I mean, whoever did not say go on air and 459 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: read this. I'm letting you do it. 460 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: Look, you don't send it to Jake Tapper without expecting 461 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: that he's going to be repeated. That's why you're sending it. 462 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: And look, the press is turning on him. Remember like 463 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 3: twelve minutes ago, where the corporate media would say it's 464 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory. When you say that that 465 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: Obama's running things. We've said a number of times in 466 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: this podcast that it's Obama's pulling the strings. I want 467 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 3: you to listen to to Morning Joe talking about who's 468 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: really behind everything? Right now, give a listen. 469 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: Before I play that, I want to tell you about 470 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: our friends of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. 471 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: Since the start of the Sword of Iron war in 472 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: Israel in October the seventh, we have seen death and 473 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: destruction in the Holy Land, and for more than forty years, 474 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has been on 475 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: the ground in Israel, and within hours of the war starting, 476 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: and everyday since, they've been feeding the hungry and protecting 477 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 2: the vulnerable. 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Danny could do nothing as his daughter's house 487 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: burned and his daughter and her husband lost their lives. 488 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: Christians like you support Israel through the International Fellowship of 489 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Christians and Jews. Is this support that helps these survivors 490 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: remain steadfast and strong. I want you to hear more 491 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: of their stories like the one I just mentioned, and 492 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: I want you to share your support for Israel and 493 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: stand with the people of Israel. All you have to 494 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 2: do to hear these stories and spread them on social 495 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: media is go to support IFCJ dot org. That's support 496 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: IFCJ dot org. Here's that clip center that you mentioned 497 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: a moment ago morning, Joe Hey. 498 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: One thing that we do have to underline here, just 499 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 4: so viewers can follow what's going on behind the scenes, 500 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 4: is the Biden campaign and many Democratic officials do believe 501 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 4: that Barack Obama is quietly working behind the scenes to 502 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 4: work is straight this. 503 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: I mean, if you and I had said that a 504 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: month ago, they would go crazy, they would mock us. 505 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 4: Not now. 506 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: I want to play also what Mika Berzinski said about 507 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 3: the George Clooney op ed, because that's just give a 508 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 3: listen to what Mika says. 509 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 9: Yes, this wasn't George Clooney, but but well, what do 510 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 9: you mean it just wasn't. 511 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: Come on, who do you think it was? It was 512 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: not Matt Damon, it wasn't Julia Roberts. 513 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 4: Do you think it was? 514 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: You can say the name. It's not Baltimore. 515 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 4: Are you saying you think Barack Obama put him up 516 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 4: to this? 517 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 9: I think that Barack Obama has a lot of influence, 518 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 9: and I think that there's uh, there's a lot there. 519 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 4: There's a lot there, There's a lot, there's a lot there. 520 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: Really, there are two. 521 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 9: People in this picture, and one has had a presidency 522 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 9: that was absolutely, undeniably historic. 523 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 4: Well, I think you have two people that had extraordinarily historic. 524 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 9: In terms of legislative accomplishments. 525 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 4: Well, you say, and they're both historic, and they're both historic, 526 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 4: and Barack Obama for sure Hordable Care Act. George, I mean, 527 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 4: not George Clooney. You know he probably said it too, Willie, 528 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 4: But Joe Biden actually whispered. 529 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: That that was a big deal, effing dial. 530 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: This is the conversation they're having on MSNBC as George 531 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 2: Cuney comes out. 532 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: I love Joe Biden, but we need a new nominee. Yeah. 533 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: And to be clear, Politico also reported quote before Hollywood 534 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: icon and Democratic donor George Clooney published his buzzy and 535 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: brutal New York Times op ed yesterday calling on Biden 536 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: to step aside as the nominee. We're told he reached 537 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: out to former President Barack Obama to give him the 538 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: heads up. The two men, who are friendly both attended 539 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: the LA fundraiser. Clooney reference to his piece where the 540 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: actor said he'd beheld a diminished Biden and that the 541 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: leader he interacted with was quote the same man we 542 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: all witnessed at the debate. While Obama did not encourage 543 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: or advise Clooney to said what he said, he also 544 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: didn't object to it. We're told from people familiar with 545 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: their exchange. The lack of pushback is an eye popping revelation, 546 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: given that the former president was one of the first 547 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: big voices defending Biden following his abysmal debate performance, while 548 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: many of his former aides have been some of the 549 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: incumbent's biggest critics. Again, if you and I said that 550 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: twelve minutes ago, they would have fitted us for the 551 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: tinfoil hats and said we were loons, And now every 552 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 3: one of them is saying this is Barack Obama pulling strings. 553 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, 554 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal 555 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: with my podcast, and you can listen to my podcast 556 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: every other day you're not listening to Verdict, or each 557 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: day when you listen to Verdict afterwards, I'd love to 558 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: have you as a listener to again, Ben Ferguson, and 559 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: we will see you back here on Monday morning.