1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Michael Very Show is on the air. 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Joe's legacy of accomplishment over the past three and a 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: half years is unmatched in modern history. In one term, 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: he has already surpassed the legacy of most presidents who 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: served two terms in office. 7 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: Or as you are. 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 4: When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans 9 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 4: are better off than they were four years ago? 10 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: So I was raised as a middle class kids. 11 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: How he lied to me, not the way you see. 12 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: An undocumented immigrant is not a criminal. And have to 13 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: correct course in this conversation. Una persona sis no escreminale. 14 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: I will snatch their cap so that we will take over. 15 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: Yes we can do that. Yes, yes we can do that. 16 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 3: Yes we can do that. 17 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: It's what it's. 18 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: The question is do you have the will to do it? 19 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 3: I have the. 20 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 4: Will to do it. 21 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: We are going to the border. We've been to the border. 22 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border. 23 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: We've been to the border. We've been to the border, 24 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: to the border, and I haven't. 25 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 5: Been to Europe. 26 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: And as. 27 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: There's a balance to be struck between being tough and 28 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: being a bitch. 29 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 6: Is Oh, yes you are. 30 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: I do not like people who want stories to make 31 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: to go public but are unwilling to put their name 32 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: behind it. I've had a problem with this for many years. 33 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Pasadena concerned Citizen is not the name of a person. 34 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: And I received an email reminder of when the Godfather 35 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: when Johnny Fontaine, who is said to be based on 36 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra, which would make the story uh a fictionalized 37 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: version based on the true story of Sinatra's relationship with 38 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: with the mafia. When when Johnny Fontaine comes to Vito 39 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: Corleone for advice and he's just sobbing and carrying on, 40 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: and you remember what the Godfather, Vito Corleone said to him, 41 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: You can act like a man? What come out? 42 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: That's how you turn out a Hollywood monogua Christ like 43 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: a woman? 44 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 5: What can I do? 45 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 6: What can I do? 46 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the mouthguard he wore for that movie. 47 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: He wore kind of like a like a mouthguard you 48 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: will wear for football. It was the lower jaw, but 49 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: it's so much bigger than you you would imagine, and 50 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: it forced his mouth out at all times so he 51 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: couldn't slip back into character. Pretty unpleasant. Looking. The second 52 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: thing this same listener by would crumply sent me was 53 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: a listing commercial because they insulted this person by claiming 54 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: he has gingivitis, which I always appreciate a high school 55 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: level insult. That's trump does the same thing when you 56 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: hit people. You can hit a person on something that 57 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: is a post forty or post fifty year old thing, 58 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: but when you hit somebody on a very personal level 59 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: with something that bothers them. I don't know this, Jeter Fellow, 60 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: so I don't know if any of that is true 61 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: or not. I'm just saying when you hit someone on 62 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: the playground level, it tends to sting a bit more. 63 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: And he sent a listing commercial and it got me 64 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: to thinking, play. 65 00:04:45,440 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 5: That well, sensit. It isn't ginger vitus, the gumment. 66 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: Mature of filling time gingivitis. I'll help protect you, gums. 67 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: I'll help protect you gums. History the action hero for 68 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: your gump. I'm about to go conspiracy on you. So 69 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: if that's going to bother you, tune out now because 70 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: I need three minutes for this and then we'll get 71 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: back to the cost. So I read an article on 72 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: I read now a lot on health and wellness, and 73 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: just because someone writes something or makes a little documentary 74 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: looking type thing on YouTube and they seem to have 75 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: a commanding voice and maybe even some academic credentials. It's 76 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: one of many things you have to consider, but it 77 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 1: makes sense, and it is that, you know, there comes 78 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: a point where major American consumer product companies began poisoning us, 79 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: slowly but surely. And one of the things that the 80 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: more I read, the more I believe, is that killing 81 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: all bacteria, which they call germs, because germs are all 82 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: bad supposedly in your mouth is a bad idea. You 83 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: need these bacteria that when so many Americans have poor 84 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: gut health, but with the best of intentions, because you 85 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: got to kill everything that's in your gut, right, that's 86 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: what you did. You got to kill everything that's in 87 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: your gut. Gotta have a clean, fresh, minty mouth with 88 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: no germs, which is bacteria. You don't want anything in there. 89 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: Be clean, Get those bad, awful evil things out of there. 90 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: Buy this product, and at the end you got a 91 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: good burn to it. Who didn't love that listerine burn. 92 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: There's really nothing like the old yellow before they put 93 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: the you know, the green has a better flavor. The 94 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: old yellow boy, you knew what you were That was 95 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: pine sal in your mouth. I don't believe that's a 96 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: good thing. As it turns out, our bodies have a 97 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: number of mechanisms to deal with external problems, and the 98 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: body heals itself many ways. And yet, if I'm selling 99 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: a product to people who are self conscious of bad breath, 100 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: so you always start with something that's in people's mind. Oh, 101 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: bad breath. People don't want to have bad breath, bad 102 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: breath when they wake up. So what we'll do is 103 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: we'll freshen the breath. But what if we get fresh 104 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: in the breath and make it seem like we're also 105 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: making you healthier. Yeah, what if the thing that's causing 106 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: the bad breath, the bad breath is uh, is evil 107 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: and is going to kill you. So we can both 108 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: give you fresh breath, put a little pep in your step, 109 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: make you healthier. It's medicinal. And so you get people 110 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: using a product that is actually quite bad for them 111 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: and has a number of things in it that you 112 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't be using. How does that happen? How does it 113 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: happen that the food? How does it happen that McDonald's 114 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: is eliminated beef tallow and started using seed oils. And 115 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: you want to go conspiracy theory. You look at how 116 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: evil seed oils are. You look at how much it's 117 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: been subsidized. You look at how much people are even 118 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: the same diet and getting fatter. Yeah, I'm done. 119 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 6: This was just officially endorsed by IRS agency. 120 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: You believe the Michael Barry show. 121 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 6: I'd rather not have that enduring been in Dexie Tagmas 122 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 6: down to the for Dixie Lan's where I was born 123 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 6: Early Lord one Frostium, Luguay. 124 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: On this day in eighteen sixty three, the first Texas 125 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: Cavalry USA left New Orleans for South Texas as part 126 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: of the Evil Union effort to interdict the lucrative trade 127 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: between Confederate Texas and Mexico. The first was one of 128 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: two regiments of Unionist cavalry from Texas to serve in 129 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: the Civil War. The second was formed in Brownsville after 130 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: the Rio Grand Campaign got underway. Loyalty to the Union 131 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: was anything but a major consensus in Texas during the 132 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: Civil War. A total of one thy, nine hundred and 133 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: fifteen Texas men served the Union cause. In contrast, to 134 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: the many thousands who served the Confederacies, Brownsville was a 135 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: center of Unionist sentiment. Significant numbers of civilians who supported 136 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: the North fled to the Lower Rio Grand, where a 137 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: provisional state government was set up under Andrew J. Hamilton, 138 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: and where Edmund J. Davis and others recruited cavalrymen for 139 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: the North. Davis had formed the First Texas Cavalry in 140 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: New Orleans in eighteen sixty two. In November eighteen sixty 141 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: four of the regiment was merged with the second into 142 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: the first Texas Volunteer Cavalry. This new twelve company regiment 143 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: engaged in patrolling and reconnaissance duties until the end of 144 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: the war and was mustered out of service on November fourth, 145 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty five. And for those of you who think 146 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: that the war was fought over slavery, do you really 147 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: believe that people in Brownsville were signing up to fight 148 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: their neighbors over slavery? Do you really believe that all 149 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: those poor kids that left their family farm to go 150 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: fight against the Joe Biden Kamala Harris national government intervention, 151 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: to go fight against the federal government destroying their community. 152 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: Do you really think they were fighting for slavery. It 153 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: blows my mind how many people say, Michael, I don't 154 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: understand your views on the Civil War. I don't know. 155 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln was good, slavery was bad, and we should 156 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: just understand that and never speak of Robert E. Lee 157 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: again because he was a bad man. We have to 158 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: change all the schools to Spanish words so that we 159 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: can have soccer instead of football. And I don't understand 160 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: your position, Michael, I don't understand it because we had 161 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: to keep America okay. Well, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris 162 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: sent federal troops to remove the barbed wire that the 163 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: state of Texas put on our southern border to keep 164 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: illegal aliens from coming in. The federal government came in 165 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: and took the power away from our state government to 166 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: protect our border from illegal aliens coming in, illegal aliens 167 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: that they're going to give nine thousand dollars to do 168 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: You support that? No, you should, because America and the 169 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: Union and whatever Washington, DC wants is better than what 170 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: you locally want. Gosh, it's almost as if the best 171 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: government is local government, and we shouldn't be told what 172 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: to do by people. Six states away. But you just 173 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: keep believing slavery by the same people pitching Kamala Harris, 174 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: a COVID vaccine and all sorts of other nonsense to 175 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: you because it's not true. Did you get Robert Jeter 176 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: on the line? Apparently, this guy Jeter is my kind 177 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: of guy, kind of about half. He was described by 178 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: one friend of mine in Pasadena as a nerdy bulldog. 179 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: He means well, and truth be told, he's probably right 180 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: about most of his complaints. Everybody's known him for years 181 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: and years and his family. He's a running joke as 182 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: this gadfly around city hall. But he's a force for good. 183 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, he might have gingivitis, that's what he said. Well, 184 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: I tend to like people like that. I tended to 185 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: like people like that. When I was on city council. 186 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: There were people who would come down. There was one dude. 187 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: He had aides. I can't remember his name. He was 188 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: a He's a gay guy and he had aids, and 189 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he was nuts, There's no question he was nuts. 190 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: But he was a force for good. I mean, if 191 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: you got over the fact that he was weird as 192 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: all get out and he was going to be at 193 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: city council every week, and he was going to insult 194 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: city council for the things that city council did. He 195 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: never insulted me, but that he was actually right. You 196 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: were spending money on things that shouldn't be spent on. 197 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: You were self dealing, you were doing this, You were 198 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: doing this, you were doing this, And at one point, I, 199 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: just to tweak my colleagues, punched out. He would come 200 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: down and speak every week, and everybody would would leave 201 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: the horseshoe. They'd go to the back so it wouldn't 202 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: have to hear him in his three minutes would be up, 203 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: and just because I enjoyed doing things like this, at 204 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: the end, I said, thank you for thank you for 205 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: your comments, mister cavaughan, and I will read what you've submitted. 206 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: Because he said packast everybody. He lost his mind. He 207 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. And I went in the back and 208 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: they said, oh my god, why do you do that? 209 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: Now He'll never go away because I like to amuse myself. 210 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the you guys, Guerrero and Ronaldo. 211 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: I know them because when we were getting Mickey Gilly 212 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: Boulevard named, they were the ones that fought against us, 213 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: and I do hear bad things about him, So yeah, 214 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: so maybe you know listen, I will tell you Tom 215 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: Bazan came down to city council every week when I 216 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: was there. He's an appraiser and he's a citizen activist, 217 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: and he would come down and he would go he'd 218 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: put the paper here, and put the paper here. Here's 219 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: your budget today, and here's your budget ten years ago. 220 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: In the budget it says that you're paying for this 221 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: and you won't have to pay for it again. And yeah, 222 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: for these ten years, you paid for it, and you 223 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: got this, and you got this, and you got this, 224 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: and you got this and you got this. And people 225 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: hated him, hated him. He was nutters, and he is nutters. 226 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: He's my friend. He's nutters. Who else would spend all 227 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: this time on something that doesn't pay and it probably 228 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: hurt his business. But when I went look for a 229 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: piece of dirt a property for the Redneck Country Club, 230 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: I called him because he's also he also has a 231 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: broker's license, because I wanted to put some money in 232 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: his back pocket, because I appreciate the fact that there 233 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: are good people who, with great sacrifice to themselves, are 234 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: out there calling out Marissa Hanson. Great example, people will 235 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: say to me, she's nuts, Michael, she says something. I 236 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care if she's nuts. She's out 237 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: there doing research and I don't know if she's nuts 238 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: or not. I don't know if Robert Jeter's nuts. I 239 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: know Tomas on his nuts, but he's my nuts. He's 240 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: my guy. And people would say. People will say to me, 241 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: you know you you retweeted something by Marissa Hanson and 242 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, tell me what she's she's the one 243 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: that dug up this project on Green's Road that the 244 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: county's involved in. Did somebody else do it? I mean, 245 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: if somebody else did it first, and she's ripping the workoff, 246 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: let me know, because she's not and she ain't making 247 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: any money at it. So we need some people that 248 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: are nuts. We need some people that are going half mad. 249 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: We need some people that are going half mad to 250 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: call out governmental waste because most people are not gonna 251 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: watch what happens at their little community. You need a 252 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: nuts person at your local school board. You need it 253 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: in your local town, You need it at your mud meetings, 254 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: because when you don't, bad things happen, and the people 255 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: who are being called out. They don't like these kind 256 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: of people. Wayne Dolchefino does not get a standing ovation 257 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: when he walks into city council meetings anywhere across the state. 258 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: I can tell you that they hate him, they despise him, 259 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: they'll tell you anything about it. But he has a 260 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: job to do right, and we need some nuts like that. 261 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: We've got Robert Jeter on the line. Oh, Thomasson's on 262 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: the line. I swear I didn't know that when I 263 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: said the worst vice president in the history of our 264 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: christ the Michael Berry. We can't afford four more years 265 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: of this, and it's sad. I used to say that 266 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: unlike anybody, I knew my wife lost her mom when 267 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: my wife was nine years old, that I had not 268 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: lost any immediate family, and I knew how lucky I was, 269 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: what a blessing that is. And then within two and 270 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: a half years, my brother dies unexpectedly and my mom dies, 271 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: which we never would have believed. My mom would go 272 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: before my dad. My dad's had chronic diabetes and other 273 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: health problems his entire life, and he does everything possible 274 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: to take care of himself. But he drew a bad 275 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: hand but boys, he bluffed his way through that and 276 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: made it a long way just just by sheer dint 277 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: of determination. Anyway, I used that as a reminder and 278 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: a motivation that, you know, live every day to the 279 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: because it's gone before you know it. I think of 280 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: all the people it's just been eleven years since the 281 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: RCC opened, all the people that I got to meet, 282 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: and some of them I got to know pretty well 283 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: because of that place, both on the stage and in 284 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 1: the audience, and getting to spend some time with Chris 285 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: Christofferson was pretty darn special. And you know, somebody told 286 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: me recently that it wasn't dementia he had. They discovered 287 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: that it was lime disease. Did you know this? They 288 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: discovered it was lime disease. And apparently this happens where 289 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: people will have they'll have traits that mirror dementia, but 290 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: it's actually lime disease. There's no punchline, that's it. Robert Jeter, Yes, 291 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: what are you doing to upset all these fine people 292 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: in Pasadena? 293 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: Uh? 294 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 4: Telling it like it is so? And I do apologize. 295 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: You have me, You have me had a little bit 296 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 4: of a disadvantage. I have not been listening to the 297 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 4: show today. Am I radio has been busted for a 298 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: number of years. 299 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: No, wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Robert, 300 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: When you say I haven't been listening today, do you 301 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: normally listen? 302 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 4: I used to listen to you religiously up until about 303 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: five six years ago. This is you know what. 304 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: I was on your side, but now I'm over there 305 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: with Guerrero and Sandoval or whatever the other. 306 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 4: That's okay, that's okay. I used to listen to right 307 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: since you were on the Chris Bakers Show talking about graffiti. 308 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: Oh wow, do you know who Chris Baker's producer was? 309 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: I do not Ramon Jay Robles. That's a long day back. 310 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 1: Your radio is busted. Where was your radio? 311 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: It's the truck radio. Oh I just I just never 312 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 4: got around to fix it. 313 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna get your radio. Hold on that. 314 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: That is that's my commitment to you. And then you 315 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: have no excuse what your truck is it? 316 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: Two thousand and one Chevy Tahoe. 317 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: See he calls his Tahoe a truck. You see that. 318 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: I do the same thing, and Ramon doesn't like it. 319 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: What is wrong with the radio? 320 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 4: I'm the second or third owner. So I don't know 321 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: particularly who was the. 322 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: One that had the song this, this, this, but there 323 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with the radio. You remember that song anyway? 324 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: All right, So so what got you involved to be 325 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: a gadfly activist at By the way, I did some 326 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: checking on you during the break Aaron Timpany. It was 327 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Timmand yeah, I thought so, but I wasn't positive, 328 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: and the feedback came back rather consistently that yeah, he's 329 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: nutear and squirrel turds, but he's actually he does good work. 330 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: He's he's he's a taxpayer advocate, he's a common sense as. 331 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: I've been attending pasting a city council meeting since twenty sixteen, 332 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 4: regularly speaking on issues. A lot of that was inspired 333 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 4: by you and the other folks I listen to on 334 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 4: ktr AH. And I'm not got to give you credit 335 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 4: here because you're the one that said, if you're going 336 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: to do something, put your name on it, which is 337 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: why at the last council meeting I put my name 338 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 4: on it when I called out these comments directly to council. 339 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 4: I wasn't hiding. I do not communicate and honestly, and 340 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 4: I typically don't reach out to media. 341 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: Why do you not reach out idea? 342 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 4: Well, have you present company excluded? Can you name that 343 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 4: many folks in media that are honest? 344 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: Yes? And here's the other thing. Look, Robert, if you're 345 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: out there doing what people say you're doing, and you 346 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: take up one hundred causes, I'm going to disagree with 347 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: you on somewhere between three and thirteen. And that's okay. 348 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: That's how this process is supposed to work. So I'm 349 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: not going to tell you I'm gonna agree with you 350 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: on everything you ever do because that's your opinion, because 351 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: you may be wrong. 352 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 4: That would be weird. 353 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: If you did right, exactly one of us would not 354 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: be necessary. That being said, if you're trying to win, 355 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: if the goal is to kill a bad bill or 356 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: get something done that a city or county or state 357 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: or any other entity is not doing, media can be 358 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: can be an asset, and just like any other tool 359 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: or weapon, it can go one way or another, but 360 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: it's certainly not going to hurt you. What I find, Robert, 361 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: is the single greatest impediment to people who do what 362 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: you do. And I would say this if Tom Bezan 363 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: and Marissa Hansen and there's good people out there doing 364 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: what you're doing. Your greatest impediment is not that you're 365 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: not on the side of good, or that you don't 366 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: you don't have facts, or that you your your argument 367 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: is wrong. Your your greatest weakness is you don't have 368 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: you get You get smothered for lack of oxygen. So 369 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: unless people understand what you're doing, then you can't. You 370 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: be surprised, Robert, and I do realize. I did do 371 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: some checking on you during the break, and I called 372 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 1: several people who I respect, and they said, yeah, no, 373 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: he he really does. He does good work for for 374 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: no personal game. 375 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 4: Hold on. 376 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: Mass deportation. Imagine what that would look like using you trust. 377 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: Keep them coming. Folks are out there voting. Montgomery County 378 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: is up. Sandy Peterson is checking. Montgomery County voting is up. 379 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: This is a good year. One listener says. I'm a 380 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: waller ID teacher and I voted during my conference period. 381 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: I took two teachers who are of the same mindset 382 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: with me to cast their votes as well. There were 383 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: a handful of people voting at eight thirty and everyone 384 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: working was over sixty. Yes, I did vote all the 385 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: way down the list. Robert Jeter is a citizen activist 386 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: in Pasadena. Robert, I did some more checking on you, 387 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: and somebody told me, I don't believe he's got a 388 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: truck because he walks everywhere. 389 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: I've been known to save guests and walk places that 390 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 4: are not too far. 391 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: That's a good way to make people think you're crazy. 392 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: I like it. 393 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: Well, I also do a lot of knocking on doors 394 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 4: and talking to voters, so people are going to see 395 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: me out everywhere walking. 396 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: Robert, I want to be clear, I like crazy. 397 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 4: No, I get that. 398 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 6: Okay. 399 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: Now, I have a friend of. 400 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: Mine who's a Republican Party official who said you're the 401 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: best block walker she's ever seen. 402 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: I'm also a senior party official on the Advisory Committe, 403 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: uh with the Republican Party. 404 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: Oh well, then you probably know who I'm talking about. 405 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, she said she said that. 406 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 5: Uh, let's see what see if. 407 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: I can find this. Let me just just funny you 408 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: say that about block about blockwalking, because that was her. Uh. 409 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: Let's see, Robert is the best block walker on the planet. 410 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: And Tom Beason will give local governments hell and always 411 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: be right on the facts. How about that? 412 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 4: Robert sounds good? So I know we have limited time. 413 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 4: I did want to let you know there are ongoing 414 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 4: investigations uh with Pastina PD. The version of what you 415 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 4: read on the air from those comments in that group 416 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: chat between Counselman Guerrero, councilmanibar and myself was the unredacted version, 417 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: not the one I read to council. And I'm not 418 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: accusing PPD of leaking that, which means that someone connected 419 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: to Guero or Ibarra would have had to have sent 420 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: you that email because I didn't. 421 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: Oh no, no no. I assure you this did not 422 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: come from them. The messages I received, and there were multiples, 423 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: were not with the intention of shaming you. They were 424 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: with the intention of bringing to public light what the 425 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: city councilmen. 426 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 4: Some of the people in their camp are not necessarily 427 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 4: favorable to them. They have folks are starting to jump 428 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: ship and the Democrat party is attacking itself from within. 429 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: What was the issue? What is the what is the 430 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: underlying issue that you brought to the table. 431 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 4: This actually that group chat didn't even stem from an issue. 432 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: Guerrero just randomly started Ebar created a group chat. Guerrero 433 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: just started randomly going off on me. On August twentieth, 434 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: and that continued on for some weeks, and then I 435 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 4: reported some of those comments that crossed the legal line. There's, 436 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 4: like I said, there's ongoing investigations, but when. 437 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: Are there something. 438 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 4: They were hitting on a whole bunch of topics. They 439 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 4: they seem to believe I'm on the spectrum. Uh, they 440 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: seem to Uh. 441 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: No, no, I'm sorry, hold on, hold on. Those are 442 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: personal attacks they're making on you. Right, I get all that, 443 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: But did you criticize an expenditure by the city, or 444 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: an action by the city, or or a deal that 445 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: they did that is what was it underlying issue there? 446 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 4: I don't know. I've criticized many expenditures and that that 447 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: would be difficult to narrow down. I don't know which 448 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 4: one in particular they're upset about. Recently, there was a 449 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 4: wall installed in the council meeting, separating the council members 450 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 4: from the public. And I did say, it's a good 451 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 4: thing the mayor put this wall up here to uh 452 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 4: protect us from some of his animals. 453 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: Uncounseled, Oh, my goodness, you don't care for Wagner. 454 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: I have no use for him, and I don't think 455 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: the citizens of passing and do much either. 456 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: Really I like him, but but you know, listen, I 457 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: can't say that every action he's taken has been a 458 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: good action. I can tell you he was a great 459 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: police officer for HPD for many years, and I know 460 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: people who do business in Pasadena like the. 461 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 6: Job with you. 462 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: What's that. 463 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 4: His disciplinary record would be in contrast to that? 464 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: You know. I will tell you, though, Robert, if you 465 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: spent any time, and maybe you have, you see a 466 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: long term police officer that the number of officers who've 467 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: never been disciplined by some highly political chief to cover 468 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: their own ass is few and far between. And some 469 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: of the best officers I've ever known because they're willing 470 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: to run into a fire and get somebody out in 471 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: violation of policies. But be that as it may, my 472 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: guess would be that Wagner wouldn't be your problem the 473 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: way Guerrero and Ibarro are. 474 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 6: Not. 475 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 4: This week. 476 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: See, I like you because even people who are out 477 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: to help you and praise you, you're going to end 478 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: up aggravating them by the end of it. And that 479 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: there's a certain charm. 480 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely yeah, And that's not lost on me. But my 481 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 4: comments at the last council meeting with my dad in 482 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 4: the audience, insisting that Guero and Ibarra apologized to my dad. 483 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 4: But my comments at the last council meeting, we're actually 484 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 4: a footnote. Guerrero, before the meeting even started, had instigated 485 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 4: a short man into attacking another senior citizen who was 486 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: there with his severely autistic son, and that short man 487 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 4: in ended up being escorted out of the meeting and 488 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 4: arrested for disrupting the meeting. So my comments the council 489 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 4: were honestly a footnote had incited. Ah, I'm five nine 490 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: and he comes up to my. 491 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: Shoulders, so I but it's not a midget. 492 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 4: Not far from Robert. 493 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: This is christinating because you described I've never heard anybody 494 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: described as a short man in the way that you 495 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: would describe someone with a purely identifiable feature, like well, 496 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: there was a black man that walked in, then there 497 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: was a Hispanic man that walked in, and then there 498 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: was a short man that and the short man did this? 499 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard that? Rymm, that's such an interesting 500 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: just We're gonna have to think on this. I didn't 501 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: know if short man was a euphemism for midget. Do 502 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: they call them dwarves now and not midgets. That feels 503 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: that's I think midget's much better because when I think 504 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: of dwarves, I think of snow white and that I 505 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be called a dwarf. You people are like, oh, 506 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: do your magic, You're a dwarf.