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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty and no Kee Armstrong and Getty, Strong

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Speaker 3: and Art home enjoying the gifts we got for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I got a pony finally, so I just been riding

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna kid you. I got the post Christmas letdown.

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Speaker 4: I'm down, man, I'm sad. I'm into the nog heavily.

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Speaker 4: Things are not going where I'm spiraling anyway. Hope you're

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Speaker 4: doing well. We've got some carefully selected curated Armstrong and

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Speaker 4: Getty segments. It's the Armstrong and Getty replay. Let's all

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Speaker 4: enjoy it together.

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Speaker 3: Takes Seth said.

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Speaker 5: China was quote credibly preparing for an invasion of Taiwan,

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Speaker 5: with Chinese forces staging regular drills around the island and

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Speaker 5: the use of force has not been ruled out.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing to me what stories get attention and what

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Speaker 2: stories just don't grab people's attention. But yeah, Hexath gave

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Speaker 2: a speech over the weekend to our Asian partners in

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Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal version of it certainly.

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Speaker 3: Grabbed my attention. A little quote from Hexath.

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Speaker 2: To be clear, any attempt by communist China to conquer

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Speaker 2: Taiwan by force would result in devastating consequences for the

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Speaker 2: Indo Pacific in the world.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to sugarcoat it.

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Speaker 2: The threat China poses is real and it could be imminent,

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Speaker 2: and saying that we will allow it, it will not

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Speaker 2: happen on Trump's watch. We have repositioned some sort of

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Speaker 2: anti ship killing missiles close by, to which China said,

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Speaker 2: that's really really awful.

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Speaker 3: You shouldn't be doing that.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, this is some serious bluster between the

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Speaker 2: two most powerful countries in the world that at some

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Speaker 2: point are going to go to war.

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Speaker 4: I was just reading those rating about those anti ship

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Speaker 4: munitions that are so interesting. They're mounted on remote controlled trucks.

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Speaker 4: They need no humans, so somebody in a bunker far

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Speaker 4: away drives these trucks around off missiles, then quickly relocate

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Speaker 4: so they can't be you know, hit by return fire.

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Speaker 4: It's really quite interesting. We're positioning them in the Philippines

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Speaker 4: and similar areas. Yeah, the Sabers are a ratlin no doubt.

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Speaker 3: As the Wall Street General rights.

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Speaker 2: In recent years, China has built up the world's biggest navy,

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Speaker 2: a title once held by the United States, you know

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Speaker 2: who held it before the United States, Great Britain. Great

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Speaker 2: it's been US. Is it going to be China in

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Speaker 2: the next century. Well, that's what China's hoping.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure you'd like their placing of the

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Speaker 4: seas anyway. I've found this, I mean, I've been on

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Speaker 4: this jihad for a long time, but more and more

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Speaker 4: open coverage of the fact that we, the United States

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Speaker 4: in the Western world in general fell for an absolutely

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Speaker 4: brilliant plan by the Chinese back in the late sixties

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Speaker 4: early seventies. They needed help, primarily financial trade from the

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Speaker 4: Western world, and came up with an absolutely brilliant plan.

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Speaker 4: Let's pretend that we want to westernize and move away

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Speaker 4: from communism at our own pace and liberalize in return

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Speaker 4: for our investment from the West. And this was absolutely

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Speaker 4: sincere although there have been some reformers in you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe that's not such a bad idea. But

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Speaker 4: then a shijin thing always comes along, and so they

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Speaker 4: duped us into opening up the relationship with China, which

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Speaker 4: was bad enough, but a great deal of left America

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Speaker 4: still hasn't caught on to it, and they are so

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Speaker 3: There's Zeno files.

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Speaker 4: As I often put it, they still haven't caught on

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Speaker 3: For instance, on universities told the story.

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Speaker 4: Many times counterintelligence people came on to a university campus

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Speaker 4: University president said, get off my campus, you racists, and

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Speaker 4: that attitude persists headline. Harvard has trained so many Chinese

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Speaker 3: They call it their party school.

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Speaker 4: Not like party school, let's get wasted and get laid yo,

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Speaker 4: the communist parties school. Oh that's not as good a

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Speaker 2: Who is that comedian? I wish I could remember his

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Speaker 2: But anyway, he has a thing he does. On a

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Speaker 4: The Kennedy School of Government at Havad is favored by

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Speaker 4: it into totalitarianism? A practice that the Trump administration could

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Speaker 4: end with a new effort to keep out what it

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Speaker 4: says are Chinese students with Communist Party ties.

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Speaker 3: But for decades the party.

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Speaker 4: Has sent thousands of mid career and senior bureaucrats to

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Speaker 4: pursue executive training in postgraduate studies on US campuses, with

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Speaker 4: Harvard University a coveted destination, describe as some in China

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Speaker 4: as the top party school outside the country. Alumni of

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Speaker 4: such programs include a former vice president and Chinese leader,

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Speaker 4: Shijin Paing's top trade negotiator these days. Maybe you heard well,

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Speaker 4: we talked about it. Last week, Secretary of State Marco

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Speaker 4: including those with connections to the Chinese Communist Party or

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Speaker 2: Well, remember last week that new president at Harvard gave

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Speaker 2: we have always educated people from around the world, and

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Speaker 3: Right, Because it is absolutely.

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Speaker 4: A requirement of being a lefty in America that you

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Speaker 4: and domestic, or at least most of them. It's just

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Speaker 4: it's so nakedly approval seeking and so stupid. American universities

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Speaker 4: have played leading roles in shaping China's overseas training programs

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Speaker 3: And years and years.

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Speaker 4: Other US colleges have offered executive training with Chinese communist officials,

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Speaker 4: including Syracuse, Stanford, the University of Maryland, and rot Gers

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. So it's just amazing. You know, it's funny.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking earlier when you were talking about in

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Speaker 4: and they're running those millet that Chinese are running those

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Speaker 4: And can you imagine if the United States, let the

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Speaker 3: Be said, no, it's okay, They're just do it an exercise.

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Speaker 4: And by the same token, you've got a hostile communist

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Speaker 4: All right, moving along, I think the point's been made

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Speaker 4: in terms of the exit speech. I'm sure we'll bring

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Speaker 4: you the economic contributions of international students, said we you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm prime merely interested in Chinese students, but the share

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Speaker 4: So about a quarter of all the international students are Chinese.

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Speaker 4: At Harvard, it's fifty percent. At Cornell, it's forty seven

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Speaker 3: Why don't you give me the number?

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Speaker 4: They just it's a barograph and some of them are labeled,

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Speaker 4: economic contributions of international students at top us universities quote

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Speaker 4: unquote top universities in twenty twenty three. Columbia got nine

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're getting half a trillion dollars, you ain't

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? A thousand million is a billion. Well no, so

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Speaker 4: it's it's almost a billion. Half a billion. What I

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Speaker 3: There you go, half a billion.

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Speaker 4: University of Chicago for twenty eight, Duke three eighteen, Yale

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Speaker 4: dollars in a year. You know, I love capitalism, I

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Speaker 4: do great is good, Gordon Gecko, look it up. But

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Speaker 4: when it leads you to betray your country, we are

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Speaker 4: we are begging for a comeuppance.

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Speaker 3: Up in a moment.

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Speaker 4: Breathing through our bucks has been declared safe after the

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Speaker 4: first human trial.

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Speaker 3: I'm not laughing. I'm coffing, actually a little both. There

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Speaker 2: Yes, Can I like, if I squeeze really hard, can

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Speaker 4: Through my You try hard enough? That's right, everybody try No.

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Speaker 4: I'll explain the minute or two. I found this really interesting.

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Speaker 4: I'm aware of exhaling that way. A lot of people

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Speaker 3: This is from the Times of London.

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Speaker 4: Female spies are waging sex warfare to steal Silicon Valley secrets.

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Speaker 4: China and Russia are both sending attractive women to seduce

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Speaker 4: tech workers, even marrying and having children with their targets.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: In a desperate attempt to get ahead and stay ahead

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Speaker 2: You're not a sex worker. If you actually marry them

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Speaker 2: Your spy, yeah, oh yeah. Nobody's calling them sex workers there,

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Speaker 2: they're spies. Chinese and Russian operatives are using sex warfare

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Speaker 2: to seduce and spy on Silicon Valley professionals. James Mulvanan,

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Speaker 2: the chief intelligence officer of amer Consulting, which provides risk

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Speaker 2: assessments for American companies investing in China, said he was

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Speaker 2: one of the many men recently targeted by Fordes seductresses

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Speaker 3: To US secrets.

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Speaker 4: Quote, I'm getting an enormous number of very sophisticated LinkedIn

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Speaker 4: requests from the same type of attractive young Chinese women.

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Speaker 4: It seems to have really ramped up recently, he described

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Speaker 4: hosted in Virginia last week, two attractive Chinese women showed.

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Speaker 3: Up and attempted to gain entry.

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Speaker 4: We didn't let them in, but they had all the

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Speaker 3: He said.

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Speaker 4: It's a phenomenon, and now I will tell you it's

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is a heck of a commitment to your

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's really about your wow.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if those are the examples that are

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Speaker 2: keeping people. I think it's the but it's easy, it's

446
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Speaker 2: all so, I think it's the emotional effort. Is a

447
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Speaker 2: is a is a problem. I've seen this with my

448
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Speaker 2: own eyes, and it horrifies me. They like draw straws

449
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Speaker 2: to see who's gonna call to order the pizza because

450
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Speaker 2: it's so intimidating that crowd's not gonna ask somebody out

451
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Speaker 2: and make the emotional risk that is getting into her relationship.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think pretty clearly true.

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Speaker 4: Or fight through the inevitable part of the relationship where

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Speaker 4: you realize, Okay, this person is fully human and has

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Speaker 4: flaws and annoys me at times.

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Speaker 2: And are sometimes we're going to have to do stuff

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Speaker 2: that they want to do and not just stuff I

458
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Speaker 2: want to do.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a big part of it.

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Speaker 2: To go back a second, and I don't want to

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Speaker 2: get a hung up on this, because the point is

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Speaker 2: not any of this. The whole point is not any

463
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Speaker 2: of the sex stuff. But apparently because I've read about this,

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Speaker 2: I think I saw on the New York Post, you

465
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Speaker 2: can like a lot of these only fans women. You

466
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Speaker 2: can get some sort of set up with them where

467
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Speaker 2: they text you throughout the day how's your day going,

468
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Speaker 2: and text you at night to fulfill that particular desire.

469
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Speaker 2: That desire is strong enough that dudes are not doing

470
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Speaker 2: it with each other, at least according to a TikTok trend,

471
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Speaker 2: you know, just thinking to you good night.

472
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Speaker 3: You can pay somebody to do that. How would that look?

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine getting any satisfaction.

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Speaker 3: From the whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you've got to delude yourself. You'd have to delude yourself.

476
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Speaker 2: The person I'm paying just texted me to say good night.

477
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Speaker 3: Hi, good night everybody. John Fetterman, he's mine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, God, that is horrifying, But I had another brain.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 2: So, the lead on Meet the Press was the Surgeon

481
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Speaker 2: General saying a while back that we have a loneliness epidemic.

482
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Speaker 2: It's cutting years off people's lives. It's it's a leading

483
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Speaker 2: killer because because it causes all kinds of different problems.

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Speaker 2: So do you think it's just flat loneliness because of

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Speaker 2: all the stuff where you've just described.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a it's a vicious circle of loneliness.

487
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Speaker 4: For the reasons we've been discussing. You have this antiseptic simulacrum,

488
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Speaker 4: a faux relationship with various people from you know, and

489
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Speaker 4: that you have your only fans, girl texts you think

490
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Speaker 4: of you, and then you begin to think, I mean

491
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Speaker 4: it's it's a stripper saying, oh, you're handsome on steroids,

492
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Speaker 4: and people are primed to actually believe it. It's like,

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Speaker 4: you know, falling in love with a damn robot. It's

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Speaker 4: it's it's it's awful.

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Speaker 2: So if we're at the loneliness epidemic right when AI

496
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Speaker 2: is taking off, and like only Fans has only been

497
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Speaker 2: around for a few years, it just seems like the

498
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Speaker 2: timing is the The cures are coming cures. I guess

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Speaker 2: I'll use my finger quote because it's not curing the

500
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Speaker 2: underlying problem. But I don't know the ointment or the

501
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Speaker 2: salve for the problem. They are getting They're getting better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the band aids over the gaping wound are getting better.

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Speaker 4: I would go with, oh, yes, yes, here's a really

504
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Speaker 4: nice band aid. Look, it completely covers the gaping wound. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you the human kind is doomed.

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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty show.

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Speaker 3: I got to handle this very delicately.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to handle it delicately for this very

509
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Speaker 2: nice mom who sent us a text. I will switch

510
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Speaker 2: in too delicate mode on your advice, combined with harsh

511
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: mode I think is necessary. So this, this, well, this

512
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Speaker 2: is why we can't have nice things. As the cliche goes,

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Speaker 2: this is why demagoguing issues in politics works. I guess

514
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: so an hour three. If you didn't hear it, get

515
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Speaker 2: the podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. Joe got into

516
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Speaker 2: the whole big beautiful bill Medicaid thing. We're getting ripped

517
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Speaker 2: off like crazy with Medicaid. We're gonna get into more

518
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Speaker 2: of it tomorrow with Craig Gottwaltsho was an expert in this.

519
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Speaker 2: But we're getting ripped off like crazy, all kinds of

520
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Speaker 2: healthy people. You're paying for their health care and other

521
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: stuff for no good reason whatsoever other than then nobody

522
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Speaker 2: keeps track of this sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: And because it buys votes, that's that's like the entire

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Speaker 4: reason you're paying for it.

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Speaker 2: And Phil Graham, former senator from Texas from back in

526
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Speaker 2: the day, tried to run for president once, but he's

527
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Speaker 2: way too smart to be president. A PhD in economics

528
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Speaker 2: wrote a piece about how, no, this is where the

529
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Speaker 2: money is. You talk about social Security, you know, and

530
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Speaker 2: cutbacks and everything like, No, the money where we need

531
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Speaker 2: to do something is in medicaid. So we get this text, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I have a daughter who's disabled and un Medicaid and

533
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Speaker 2: social Security, and I get that you guys who are

534
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Speaker 2: trying to get people riled up and listening to show

535
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Speaker 2: and I'm a strong Republican, but what you're missing is

536
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Speaker 2: and then she lays out the story of how her

537
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Speaker 2: disabled daughter can't take care of herself at all, never

538
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Speaker 2: will be able to in her life. Unbelievable, what you're

539
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Speaker 2: dealing with. I can't even imagine, and how she needs

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Speaker 2: that money and we don't have the courage to call

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Speaker 2: her back and talk to her and get the facts

542
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Speaker 2: on this story about her disabled daughter and how much

543
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Speaker 2: she needs Medicaid.

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Speaker 4: There will not be a single disabled person affected in any.

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Speaker 3: Way by the proposs cuts, not one.

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Speaker 2: And there isn't a single person us or anybody else

547
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Speaker 2: arguing for someone like your daughter having their money cut.

548
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Speaker 4: Argue strenuously one hundred and eighty degrees in the other direction.

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Speaker 2: This is why you demogogue these issues though, because he

550
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Speaker 2: even it's sir that yes, her poor daughter, and she

551
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Speaker 2: will be left high and dry by the mean Republicans.

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Speaker 3: That is one hundred and eighty degrees opposite of the

553
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Speaker 3: truth you said. They've convinced her. We convinced her even with.

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Speaker 2: You only talking about the scammers, right Her takeaway was

555
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Speaker 2: like you and I are in favor of cutting her

556
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Speaker 2: daughter's money.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if that's the way it lands, no.

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Speaker 2: Wonder politicians don't cost with on one hundred miles of

559
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Speaker 2: even trying to stop the scumbag liars.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's unfortunate, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It is a highly unfortand you could stand and we've

562
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Speaker 2: seen this, We've been doing this for a long time.

563
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Speaker 2: You can, as a politician, stand up in front of

564
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Speaker 2: a crowd and say, look, nobody here currently getting Social

565
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Speaker 2: Security that's over the age of sixty five.

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Speaker 3: We'll see any a dime of that cut in their lifetime.

567
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Speaker 2: But and then everything after the butt gets portrayed as you,

568
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Speaker 2: as an old person, are gonna starve.

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Speaker 4: Right, And it's just there's just no getting around it, apparently, right, right, man.

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Speaker 3: I feel for you, ma'am, what the rough situation you're

571
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Speaker 3: in doing God's work trying to deal with that.

572
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Speaker 2: But nobody us or anybody is suggesting cutting the program

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Speaker 2: for people like your daughter.

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Speaker 3: Nobody, right, we would have more money for people like

575
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Speaker 3: your daughter if the.

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Speaker 2: Freaking healthy twenty eight year old dude playing video games

577
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Speaker 2: and laughing at us wasn't getting all his stuff paid for, right.

578
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Speaker 3: I don't know what you do with the reality of this.

579
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Speaker 3: I think if you were to sit down with Carl

580
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Speaker 3: Rove and.

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Speaker 4: James Carvill I'm trying to be by partner, maybe Donald Trump,

582
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, Charles Crouthammer, Jesus and John Wayne.

583
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Speaker 3: They would that's quite a crowd, they would.

584
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Speaker 4: Say, Jackie boy, Joseph, here's the story.

585
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Speaker 3: That's what politics is. Grow up.

586
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 4: You always talk about trying to frighten or entice the

587
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Speaker 4: herd in one direction or another, as if you're too

588
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: good and too smart for that.

589
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Speaker 3: That's politics.

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Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying that politicians go out there

591
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: and try to frighten you on this stuff. What I'm

592
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: concerned about is we made it clear we weren't trying.

593
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Speaker 2: We weren't claiming they're coming for your to take your

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Speaker 2: disabled daughter's medic care. Politicians will say that sort of

595
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Speaker 2: stuff medicaid. Yeah, we weren't saying the opposite, and it's

596
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Speaker 2: still landed as if we were.

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Speaker 3: That's what troubles me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's squarely in the department of things.

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Speaker 4: I can't do anything about. It's Uh, it's striking. I

600
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Speaker 4: totally get your being troubled by that.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, if you're a politician, you get up

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Speaker 2: on stage and make it clear that I'm not interested

603
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Speaker 2: in cutting your social security. But people walk out of

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Speaker 2: the room thinking they're going to take my SOLFI security. Yeah, well,

605
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Speaker 2: that we're done here, then I guess yes.

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Speaker 4: As a as a country, you mean yes, or as

607
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Speaker 4: a system of government people, well, self governance doesn't work,

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Speaker 4: that's my point. Uh yeah, Well the great Scottish philosopher

609
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Speaker 4: what's his face? Uh, with the you know, the republic

610
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Speaker 4: will last only until the populace realizes they can vote

611
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Speaker 4: themselves money from the treasury. And and what he didn't

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Speaker 4: suspect is that, or maybe he did, was that there.

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Speaker 3: That politicians would be able to convince.

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Speaker 4: Virtually all of the population that any effort to rein

615
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Speaker 4: that in was indeed an attack on them and their

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Speaker 4: well being.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it doesn't work.

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Speaker 4: The great, you know, overarching Joe Getti principle, there are

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Speaker 4: actually several of them, many of them contradict each other,

620
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 4: is that all systems can last only until those who

621
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Speaker 4: had gained the system.

622
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Speaker 3: Win over those who would protect a system.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, you know, the constant battle between hackers

624
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Speaker 4: and cybersecurity experts.

625
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: There comes a point in a.

626
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Speaker 4: Like a governmental system, where a combination of manipulating the

627
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 4: voters and then manipulating the systems behind the scenes becomes

628
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Speaker 4: so sophisticated that the immune system of a democracy is insufficient.

629
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Speaker 4: It's like a septic in in the bloodstream. So monarchy now,

630
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm old, y'all figured out.

631
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Speaker 3: Good luck.

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Speaker 2: If you're old already, nobody is gonna touch your social

633
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Speaker 2: security period. Now, if you are actually disabled, nobody's gonna

634
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Speaker 2: take your money period.

635
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to. Nobody's even suggested it, right, and yet

636
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Speaker 3: it is the easiest cell in the world.

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Speaker 4: If any Republicans say we're gonna rain in Medicaid waste

638
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Speaker 4: fraud abuse, they're gonna come take the money out of

639
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Speaker 4: the mouths of your disabled children, and people believe them.

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Speaker 3: So what are you gonna do.

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Speaker 4: I'm in an accepting mood today. I have accepted it,

642
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Speaker 4: probably because I'm excited about my new political part party,

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Speaker 4: the f y'all it cans.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have AI design a logo because that's a

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Speaker 2: good I like the fans.

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00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: Capital f capital y apostrophe, A L L.

647
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Speaker 4: Dash I dash cans f y'all ackns.

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00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: We need an animal though maybe the turkey.

649
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: Is the donkey and the elephant are taken clearly, maybe

650
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Speaker 4: we have the turkey.

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Speaker 2: Has heard in a previous clip which been Franklin wanted

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Speaker 2: to be our national bird

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Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show