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Speaker 2: September thirtieth, twenty fifteen, from Comedy Central's World News headquarters
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Speaker 1: This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah Show. I'm Trevoroah.
Speaker 3: Our guest tonight, New Jersey governor and presidential candidate Chris
Speaker 3: Christie is yeah, and uh, that's right, that's right, promoting
Speaker 3: his new album I Want to Be President.
Speaker 4: But here we are Night three people.
Speaker 3: And you know what, since I've been in America, a
Speaker 3: lot of people have asked me if I'm having a
Speaker 3: hard time adjusting to living in the country. And the
Speaker 3: truth is yes, some things harder to understand than others.
Speaker 3: For instance, why do you let the baby lions in
Speaker 3: a sandbox in your bathrooms? And why did you let
Speaker 3: that giant mouse rule a magical kingdom within your borders?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: No, not that I was talking about the other one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Luckily, there are things that do remind me of home,
Speaker 3: for instance having a black presidence and the difficulty of
Speaker 3: talking about race relations, especially when the police are involved.
Speaker 6: The only people in our society that don't believe all
Speaker 6: lives matter are generally liberals.
Speaker 7: We don't need to say all lives matter because white
Speaker 7: citizens aren't dying at the hands of police.
Speaker 3: Why has the black Lives Matter movement not been classified
Speaker 3: yet as a hate group?
Speaker 8: When people say all lives matter is actually a violent statement.
Speaker 9: I've seen far more racism against the cops.
Speaker 4: It's a divisive issue.
Speaker 1: It's almost as if there's no common ground.
Speaker 3: It really does seem like there's no common ground. It's
Speaker 3: almost as if this whole issue is just black and.
Speaker 7: I get it.
Speaker 4: It's a cookie. The problem is a cookie.
Speaker 3: The question is how can we even attempt to solve
Speaker 3: this problem in this heats of environment. To find out,
Speaker 3: Jordan Klepper and Roywood Junior filed this reports.
Speaker 10: Over the past year, cops have faced increasing scrutiny based
Speaker 10: on their actions against minorities. To get to the bottom
Speaker 10: of this, the Daily Show sent not one, but.
Speaker 5: Two correspondents to go deep.
Speaker 10: Super deep. So we decided to sit down with some
Speaker 10: cops to see why.
Speaker 5: They're racist or attack.
Speaker 10: Goodnight on to gonna be a graphic right here?
Speaker 1: No graphic, No graphic, Oh do exactly?
Speaker 10: After all the shootings of unarmed minorities throughout the country,
Speaker 10: the nation has now split into two camps. Either the
Speaker 10: cops are racist or they're not racist, but only one
Speaker 10: side can be right. So we sat down with former
Speaker 10: NYPD detective and Fox News contributor Bo Diedel to get
Speaker 10: the definitive answer. It's a tough question to asked Bo,
Speaker 10: but I gotta ask it.
Speaker 1: Good. Are police racist?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: That's good enough for me.
Speaker 10: I'm satisfied we're good here.
Speaker 5: I'm unbelief. Are you serious? Ye, You're not gonna ask
Speaker 5: him any more questions.
Speaker 4: He said, they're not racist, and.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm bias.
Speaker 4: Oh, he's new.
Speaker 1: All cops are not racist.
Speaker 5: Everyone's starting to believe like you are, that there is.
Speaker 1: A overwhelming conspiracy with all the cops.
Speaker 5: Go oh, let's go get a black guy and beat
Speaker 5: them to death. That's not what's going on there.
Speaker 11: Of course, the cops going to say police aren't racist.
Speaker 11: But what about an expert who runs a center which
Speaker 11: studies the police, doctor Phield?
Speaker 5: Goff. Okay, so let's start with the facts. All cops
Speaker 5: are racist.
Speaker 8: No, all cops are not racist.
Speaker 1: Told you all cops are awesome.
Speaker 8: No, all cops are not awesome.
Speaker 5: Nuance to this, There is nuance to this.
Speaker 8: Police, like everybody else, hold implicit biases. Implicit bias is
Speaker 8: the shorthand that we take for the automatic association between
Speaker 8: people and stereotypes that we have about those people. And
Speaker 8: we've done that with black and crime a whole heck
Speaker 8: of a lot. Almost all people hold implicit biases.
Speaker 10: I don't hold any biases.
Speaker 5: I don't hold any biases. I look at him, I
Speaker 5: see you, cool ass white dude. I look at shirt
Speaker 5: tucked in the lucky weather Man.
Speaker 1: Trust.
Speaker 10: I trust this guy, right, he's got southern Charm's a
Speaker 10: black dude without aarrans.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 8: If it's true that neither of you have biases, then
Speaker 8: you are very rare individuals.
Speaker 10: Well, I think that's true.
Speaker 5: I'm amazing.
Speaker 10: Not surprisingly, there's a program that Nerdy Shug Knight developed
Speaker 10: which trains police officers to delink bias from their decision making.
Speaker 8: We've been very involved in training officers to limit the
Speaker 8: influence of their biases on their behaviors.
Speaker 5: So a police chief comes to you and says, help,
Speaker 5: we just shot a black kid. They use helpless, so
Speaker 5: we quit doing that.
Speaker 8: Police chiefs usually don't call us and say help, but.
Speaker 11: Some police departments have sought out these techniques. Like this
Speaker 11: deadly forced simulator, which shows a series of real life
Speaker 11: situations that test your ability to not act on assumptions
Speaker 11: of race.
Speaker 5: Hey, what are you doing? What bias?
Speaker 11: Ass This Empire bias training consists of three key components
Speaker 11: scenario based training, written testing, and talking it out. To
Speaker 11: see it in action, we headed to the Madison, Wisconsin
Speaker 11: Police Department, one of the few in the country that
Speaker 11: has an extensive anti bias program, and there's a compelling
Speaker 11: reason why.
Speaker 8: Tonight there are protests over another deadly police shooting of
Speaker 8: an unarmed man after complaints of a confrontation this one
Speaker 8: last night in Madison, Wisconsin.
Speaker 11: So we sat down with the Madison Chief of Police,
Speaker 11: Mike Coval, to ask one little question.
Speaker 5: Are all police biased?
Speaker 9: Yes, the police have biases?
Speaker 5: Got him?
Speaker 1: Got him? You said, who are you calling black people?
Speaker 1: You're calling black people? Let me get that number.
Speaker 5: Yeah in Wisconsin.
Speaker 11: White dude just said it bias all of them.
Speaker 5: Uh huh to a black Twitter. That's good.
Speaker 1: You don't know about black Twitter?
Speaker 5: No, yeah, black Twitter? Hello, black Twitter. Hello, you should
Speaker 5: get a black Twitter.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious.
Speaker 10: I don't know what they're talking about at the time,
Speaker 10: but it is funny. So we admitted they're biased, and
Speaker 10: I have to say they seem like pretty nice guys.
Speaker 4: Looks good, looking good, Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, right, my man. And then the scenario based training began.
Speaker 10: Of course, a couple of unbiased reporters like us would
Speaker 10: ace this.
Speaker 2: All right, role players, you want to get in position.
Speaker 4: All right, Jordan, you can go ahead and observe.
Speaker 10: We have the rap star over here who clearly hit
Speaker 10: this pregnant woman. I address these two guys and get
Speaker 10: back to business.
Speaker 5: It's not a rap star. He doesn't have a gold chain, all.
Speaker 1: Right, role players, Can you share with them what happened here? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, what's going on?
Speaker 1: CPR?
Speaker 10: Why is the black guy trying to kill the lady
Speaker 10: who's having a heart attack? Okay, okay, let's try this
Speaker 10: one more time.
Speaker 1: This scenario is called the domestic disturbance.
Speaker 12: You're gonna observe the scene, you know, maybe verbally control
Speaker 12: people involved.
Speaker 10: This guy's getting too old for the.
Speaker 1: Like lead the weapon.
Speaker 10: Have you seen leath the weapon like bad boys?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I've seen bad boys do this.
Speaker 1: Your first Jordan.
Speaker 5: Action is everything? Okay?
Speaker 10: In here, excuse me, get away from the woman, Get
Speaker 10: away from the woman, diet down, did the ground?
Speaker 4: Good?
Speaker 1: Don on the ground, diet down on the ground.
Speaker 10: Bam, It's gonna be.
Speaker 1: A right and scene. That was fun.
Speaker 4: That was fun.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you were great and scary.
Speaker 1: Try it, you love it.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry about having officer product all right, action.
Speaker 11: Stop crying?
Speaker 5: Stop crying? What happened? What happened? Why you're crying?
Speaker 1: Don't know?
Speaker 5: Her getting too old for that? Four seven two. Were
Speaker 5: gonna need a white female officer to come handle this.
Speaker 1: Knock knock hello, officer would as.
Speaker 10: A white female officer, I'll take care of this.
Speaker 5: Are you okay?
Speaker 10: Get on the ground, Get on the ground, Get on
Speaker 10: the ground, get away, get away.
Speaker 5: You know what. Okay.
Speaker 11: So maybe we do have her own biases and this
Speaker 11: training can go a long way to help officers make
Speaker 11: bias free decisions on the street.
Speaker 5: This is great. Oh, but there's just one little problem.
Speaker 4: You see.
Speaker 11: The shooting of Tony Robinson was six months ago. The
Speaker 11: Madison PD started their bias training six years ago. What
Speaker 11: the hell, Coval, What do you have to say for yourself?
Speaker 9: The key is that we've got to acknowledge that this
Speaker 9: is a problem that is recurring with all too great
Speaker 9: a frequency, because if no one's talking, because we're all
Speaker 9: hunkered and bunkered down, there's no possible way we can move.
Speaker 1: The needle forward.
Speaker 9: So I think if nothing else, show affirmative steps that
Speaker 9: you're doing something, damn it, that's going to make the
Speaker 9: training less likely to end in those outcomes.
Speaker 11: Okay, fine, but talk is cheap. Can bias training really
Speaker 11: change police behavior? How can we as a public bind
Speaker 11: to the realism that police biased training could work when
Speaker 11: you have so many incidents like Tony Robinson.
Speaker 10: Freddie Gray, Walter Scott, Sander Bland, Eric Garner, somebody who
Speaker 10: gets shot next month.
Speaker 8: Implicit bias training is a good idea, but it's not sufficient.
Speaker 5: You don't want to just do a training.
Speaker 8: You always want to do trainings with policy changes, with
Speaker 8: community engagement, and even that, there's still going to be
Speaker 8: these incidents because we live in a world where policing
Speaker 8: is frequently the symptom, not the cause of the n quality.
Speaker 8: It can't be that police are on one side, communities
Speaker 8: on the other. The police are the public and the
Speaker 8: public are the police.
Speaker 5: Just like in Bad Boys.
Speaker 10: Yeah you've seen bad Boys.
Speaker 5: It's not at all like bad Boys.
Speaker 10: It's a little bit like bad boys.
Speaker 5: It's not at all like bad boys. I mean, like,
Speaker 5: have you even seen bad boys?
Speaker 10: I have seen bad boys, so it's kind of like that.
Speaker 5: It's not at all like that boys. Bad boys, bad boys.
Speaker 5: What you're gonna do, what you're gonna do.
Speaker 10: When wake up for you with an open mind and
Speaker 10: an awareness of our piocies and cultural differences, nice people, When.
Speaker 1: Wake up for you?
Speaker 5: Why the hell am I in the backseat?
Speaker 1: Jordan Katwyn and Roy Wood Junior. Everyone will be right back.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Day to Show.
Speaker 3: Late last week, Chinese President Sijin Ping was in Washington
Speaker 3: for a state dinner and high level security meetings with
Speaker 3: Presidents Obama and as the presidence of one of the
Speaker 3: most powerful nations in the world. When seesion Pink talks,
Speaker 3: it's no laughing matter, joll.
Speaker 12: We have the right to uphold our own territorial sovereignty
Speaker 12: and lawful and legitimate maritime rights and interests.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry, that's a little funny. It is just
Speaker 4: just to be clear.
Speaker 3: We did not give that interpret to that awesome voice. No,
Speaker 3: that was Al Jazeera that decided the president of China
Speaker 3: should sound like he's in an all state commercial.
Speaker 4: But okay, I'm done. I'm done. Let's let's hear what
Speaker 4: he had to say.
Speaker 12: We must recognize that countries have different historical processes and realities,
Speaker 12: and we need to respect people of all countries.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm not that. It just sounds so amazing.
Speaker 4: I love this guy.
Speaker 3: It's almost like they pulled their translator from the top
Speaker 3: of an R and B song, like it.
Speaker 4: Was just there, like baby, I know I've been doing
Speaker 4: you wrong, and huh was there?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I speak Mandarin.
Speaker 12: Right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I'll get back to y'all.
Speaker 3: But despite the lovely dinner with Zi, there are signs
Speaker 3: that Obama still may not fully trust him.
Speaker 6: President Obama will not stay at the Waldorf Astoria hotel
Speaker 6: while attending the UN General Assembly.
Speaker 1: The Posh Park Avenue.
Speaker 6: Hotel is now owned by a Chinese company, sparking concerns
Speaker 6: that the communist nation could spy on top secret communications.
Speaker 3: That's a real lazy way to commit espionage and es,
Speaker 3: be honest, come on, China, that's all you guys are
Speaker 3: gonna do. Oh We're gonna scale out to wall, sneak
Speaker 3: into the window, and then we ah screw it, Let's
Speaker 3: just buy the hotel.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: For more On thiss we go to the Waldorf Astoria
Speaker 3: with our senior investigative correspondent, El Madrigal.
Speaker 7: Everyone, well, Trevor, the problem is worse than I thought.
Speaker 7: For the past three days, I've been over every inch
Speaker 7: of this presidential suite, from the four person jacuzzi to
Speaker 7: the eight hundred thread count sheets. But I'm bound to
Speaker 7: stay here as long as it takes to nail this story.
Speaker 4: That's great, Al, But why are you in a robe?
Speaker 1: That's a good.
Speaker 7: Question, Trevor. The bigger question is where have the Chinese
Speaker 7: hidden the bugs? My current suspicion is at the bottom
Speaker 7: of this glass. Nope, just another mimosa.
Speaker 4: Oh you're not investigating at all.
Speaker 3: You're just lounging around in a fancy hotel on our dime.
Speaker 1: How dare you okay?
Speaker 8: For your information?
Speaker 7: They sent a Chinese spy to my room last night,
Speaker 7: and she interrogated me relentlessly for ninety minutes.
Speaker 1: She beat my back with her fists and then.
Speaker 5: You're not gonna believe this.
Speaker 1: She tortured me with hot stones.
Speaker 4: All right, don't worry, I haven't cracked yet.
Speaker 7: What do you mean yet I have another Chinese spy
Speaker 7: appointment in ten minutes getting some seaweed face torture.
Speaker 4: This is all a waste. I will madriggle everyone. This
Speaker 4: man nothing that is not investigative journalism.
Speaker 5: I want my money back.
Speaker 1: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: My guest tonight is the governor of New Jersey and
Speaker 3: he's also running for president. Please welcome Governor Chris Christy.
Speaker 5: Ah, this is it.
Speaker 4: We meet, meets again. Meet a lot of people don't
Speaker 4: know that. You're one of the first people to wish
Speaker 4: me good luck for the job.
Speaker 5: So thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Dying on this summer, what a crazy place you were
Speaker 1: wearing shorts.
Speaker 4: I will never remember that. I should say it's.
Speaker 1: Better than he never remembers. Actually stop now, no, listen,
Speaker 1: there's no requirement to lie in your first week on
Speaker 1: the job. There absolutely is not.
Speaker 4: I guess it's different to your jobs.
Speaker 1: It's much different than my time.
Speaker 4: Well, thanks you for coming. U get straight into it.
Speaker 3: I guess I wanted to talk to you first and
Speaker 3: foremost about the biometrics. I was watching the debates and
Speaker 3: you were talking about people and their visas. People need
Speaker 3: to have their visas, and they don't need to. They
Speaker 3: shouldn't overstay their time in the US. I felt like
Speaker 3: you were talking to me personally, because that happened one time.
Speaker 3: But what I didn't understand was the biometrics. Right, you
Speaker 3: want people to get FedEx stamps?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you know that you already have ten
Speaker 1: FedEx stamps.
Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking of getting a stamp on my
Speaker 3: little Yeah, I was thinking of getting like a like.
Speaker 1: A tramp stamp. It's going to be bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, party overnight. But explain the system to me. Explain
Speaker 4: the system to me.
Speaker 1: Hold up both your hands. No, you got ten stamps already.
Speaker 1: Sow the fingerprints, yeah, okay, your prince younique to every
Speaker 1: human being, we should be able to track people who
Speaker 1: come into the country on visas for a particular period
Speaker 1: of time. These are people who are immigrating here to
Speaker 1: stay here forever. People coming here to work, work, or
Speaker 1: a student visa or a tourist visa. You're here for
Speaker 1: a certain period of time. Give a thumb print when
Speaker 1: you come in, goes into a database. You have to
Speaker 1: access certain services in the country. Give your thumb print again.
Speaker 3: But now talking about accessing those services, is it as
Speaker 3: easy as you say? Because I mean, right now, you
Speaker 3: don't even have exit fingerprints when you leave the United States,
Speaker 3: So I mean, how do you implement them to other places?
Speaker 3: I read you talking about implementing it in like car
Speaker 3: rental places, saying that people can't rent a car if
Speaker 3: they don't have that.
Speaker 4: But then how does that work? So if somebody comes
Speaker 4: in there and they and they have the fingerprints.
Speaker 1: With the fingerprint, you have a database. Yeah, and if
Speaker 1: it says you've overstayed, we tap you on the shoulders
Speaker 1: say thanks for coming the whole time. Oh, I'll be
Speaker 1: there the entire time.
Speaker 3: You're going to be at all the carnal agents every time,
Speaker 3: everyone is so confusing, not.
Speaker 1: One of them, but I will be at the one
Speaker 1: where you're returning.
Speaker 5: All right, this is.
Speaker 3: Absolutely just, But I mean, I mean, it's going to
Speaker 3: cost so much money. Seven billion dollars are estimates, Like
Speaker 3: that's just to overhaul it in the airports, right, would
Speaker 3: you not say that it's a little bit of an
Speaker 3: overshoot to try.
Speaker 1: A lot less expensive than a two thousand mile wall
Speaker 1: across the entire southern border. How about that.
Speaker 4: To shave my friend to shave to shape. Let's talk
Speaker 4: about those debates. Yeah, why were they so long?
Speaker 1: I'm still asking myself that question because there's so many
Speaker 1: of us up there. I mean, think about it. You know,
Speaker 1: I was up there for three hours two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and I got to speak for a total of ten minutes.
Speaker 1: That's the entire time that you get to speak ten minutes,
Speaker 1: two hours in fifteen minutes. I'm just gone, Oh, who
Speaker 1: is that?
Speaker 5: Who is that?
Speaker 3: That's such an interesting one, because you know, it seems
Speaker 3: like it seemed like it was a lot about the infighting,
Speaker 3: you know, and I noticed you said that quite a bit.
Speaker 3: You said, we don't. People are sick and tired of
Speaker 3: listening to the bickering. They want to know what their
Speaker 3: plan is. And I didn't get to hear.
Speaker 4: What your plan is?
Speaker 1: What is your only had ten minutes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is your plan?
Speaker 1: I plan on what part of the number of problems
Speaker 1: we have in this country. I mean, listen, we have
Speaker 1: to inform reform entitlements in this country. We spent seventy
Speaker 1: one percent of our federal budget on entitlements and debt service.
Speaker 1: That's all money we're spending looking in the rear view
Speaker 1: mirror and not looking through the windshield.
Speaker 4: So read that's overhauling social security.
Speaker 1: So security, Medicare, Medicaid, disability insurance.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of disagreements on how to do that though,
Speaker 4: I mean, well there is.
Speaker 1: And my plan is to increase the retirement age for
Speaker 1: a couple of years, phasing it over twenty five years,
Speaker 1: so it's really only going up one month a year
Speaker 1: for twenty five years. And then also for people who
Speaker 1: make a lot of money in retirement. People make more
Speaker 1: than two hundred thousand dollars a year more in retirement,
Speaker 1: they don't really need a Social Security check. They're fine.
Speaker 1: Social Security check is needed for people who that's going
Speaker 1: to make the difference between rent and heat and food.
Speaker 1: We got to preserve it for those folks. The alternative,
Speaker 1: of course, is to bring more money into the government.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Why would we trust the government.
Speaker 1: They've already lied to us and stolen from the trust
Speaker 1: fund for Social Security. It's why we've got a problem now.
Speaker 1: So we want to give the same people.
Speaker 4: Who is the government? I'm so confused, are you?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I have nothing to know no no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no.
Speaker 4: Okay, So Chris Christy gets Chris Christy gets selected.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, something.
Speaker 4: Right everybody, and then and then to work big things.
Speaker 4: I heard you talking about. I saw it was on Twitter.
Speaker 4: Actually you're saying, dear DC. You're asking questions, dear DC.
Speaker 4: And one of the big things you seem.
Speaker 3: To be apposed is the fact that you say the
Speaker 3: GOP leadership is not working in Congress. They're not trying
Speaker 3: to move things forward. Big parts of that is the
Speaker 3: lack of bipartisanship. But I don't understand honestly how you
Speaker 3: can change it.
Speaker 1: You got to work with people. I mean, listen, I
Speaker 1: have a democratic legislature in New Jersey. For every minute
Speaker 1: I've been governor, I have a democratic legislature. That's not
Speaker 1: an excuse for not doing your job. You got to
Speaker 1: get to know these folks and you got to find compromise.
Speaker 1: Compromise isn't capitulation. It's compromised.
Speaker 3: But that compromise is limited when sometimes the people you
Speaker 3: are working with only look at the small things that
Speaker 3: you do when trying to compromise.
Speaker 4: I remember one time you touched President Obama and.
Speaker 1: I shook his hand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you touched President Obama.
Speaker 1: Well like this, And the point is today, some.
Speaker 4: People in your Partsy haven't let you live that down.
Speaker 4: Can you change that?
Speaker 1: Well, I touched them, so I can't change that. But
Speaker 1: I didn't touch it. I admit it. I did. I
Speaker 1: admitted I did. But you know, I work with Democrats
Speaker 1: in my state all the time because the people elected them,
Speaker 1: and so you got to work with them. It's not
Speaker 1: an option. And what's happened in Washington now is that
Speaker 1: people think it's an option, and it's an option to
Speaker 1: close the government. It's an option out to talk to
Speaker 1: the other side. That should not be an option. You
Speaker 1: get sent there to work to govern. And that's what
Speaker 1: I've done in New Jersey. You know what, don't mean
Speaker 1: we always agree, but we find compromises, and we've compromised
Speaker 1: on a bunch of stuff over time. That's made the
Speaker 1: state a better place. And that's what you got to do.
Speaker 3: So then, the biggest obstacle you face right now before
Speaker 3: I let you go is getting those poll numbers up.
Speaker 3: Now we've seen people surge in the polls. My question
Speaker 3: to you, Chris Christie, is what is your plans get
Speaker 3: those numbers up? Arguably, people say you need twenty to
Speaker 3: thirty percent to get the GOP nomination.
Speaker 4: What does Chris Christy do in this situation to get
Speaker 4: those numbers up?
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