WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 10/3: 3 Up/Down vs. the 49ers, Dolphins Preview 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.080 This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.200 Lazar and Alex bar Blazar and Lazar. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.560 Everybody nailed it joined us always buy our bar gap. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.280 Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Bars. You're not usually 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:21.960 into the numbers. 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.680 I'm just I'm okay we do something. I'm into the 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:28.360 tangible numbers. There's there's just give me the advantage. And 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.040 in fact, you haven't know how to work it. I'm surprised, Like, 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:32.840 you know, an old man over here. I thought maybe 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.000 i'd have to show you like a tutorial or something. 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:39.080 How am I old man? You're an old man because 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:42.879 you you don't like the stats, even though you're this generation. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.800 You're supposed to like stats. You're supposed to be. Sorry, 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.279 I don't know you want me to tell you. You're 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.080 supposed to be mister. You know you're like E P A, 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.600 d v O A next gen. You know you're supposed 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:56.960 to eat that stuff up like that's that's literally why 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.600 they put that stuff on the broadcast now for people 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:02.560 like us, the nerds. 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.479 But don't plant me in with that. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.560 This is when they do that, you know the replay. 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.399 I'd rather see the color guy explain x's and ohs, 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:12.720 Why the play that happened happened? 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.000 This is my Roman empire is thinking about the fact 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:18.640 that you are just as much of a nerd as me, 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.200 but you're also anti nerd at the same time. It 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:22.600 doesn't compute in my head. 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:24.440 And you know how I feel about you hating country 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:25.720 music and liking Morgan Wallen. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.679 All right, I'm gonna end it there with the computer. Wait, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:32.360 what are you doing? 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.039 What do you do about to plug my computer before 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:34.360 the show? 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.200 Oh? Geez, is that like a thing that you have 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.320 to do right this? Yeah, it's almost dead. Okay, all right, 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:42.119 do you do your You do your thing? Uh So 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.480 Evan Lazar Alex Bars Patriots Cast twenty two with you 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.920 for the next couple of hours, will take your phone 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.880 calls or take your emails. I just want to put 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.200 this out there, and I know you told me not 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.120 to do this, but I'm gonna do it anyway because 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.120 I feel bad. I'm going to put it out there 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.600 that you know we I almost treat this show almost 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.120 like a pot podcast. For the first like forty minutes 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.480 is pot where you and I are going to just 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.040 get our takes off. For the first forty minutes and 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.120 then we'll open the phone lines in the email. So 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:11.720 I don't want you people to think that I'm like 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.680 neglecting you on hold, Like we see your phones. We're 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.280 gonna get to the phones. But we have liked you know, 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:19.680 we have a lot to talk about. There's a lot 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.600 to talk about with this team right now. 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All right, So here's where I want 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.120 to start today. Because last week I did forty minutes 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.040 off the top of the show complaining about the offense 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.640 I railed on Alex Van Pelt. I railed on Jacoby Brissett. 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.440 I railed a little bit on the offensive line, and 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.359 I've just decided, now after this forty nine Ers game 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.000 Bart that I've just come to terms with the fact 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.639 that the Patriots offense until Drake May gets in there, 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.920 this is probably how it's going to look. Last week, 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.959 I complained, and I said, you got to get the 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.280 ball out of the quarterback's hands, quicker. You can't be 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.680 running these bootleg and seven step drops from under center 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:41.280 and expecting that to go well with this offensive line. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.320 They kind of listened. Alex Van Pelt kind of listened. 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.280 Sixteen dropbacks in under two and a half seconds, got 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.040 the ball out a little bit. This week. Ran a 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.480 lot of quick game, ran a lot of stuff close 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.640 to the line of scrimmage. They just can't execute anything well. 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.480 So whether it's seven step drop, it's three step, it's 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.640 quick game, it's gone, it's under center or whatever, they 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.920 don't do any of it well. So I at this point, 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.640 I'm not trying to excuse anybody. I'm not trying to 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:13.040 give any passes, but the offensively, I don't want to 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.200 start there, even though I just started there, because I 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.680 just I've given up I've given up, Like until May 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.120 gets in there, I just don't know what else they're 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:19.440 gonna do. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:20.840 Well, look, I think it will get better than that. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.919 You also have to consider what the offensive line was, 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.479 and that certainly led to some limitations. Right, you have 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.359 a guy making his first career NFL start, he played 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.760 fourteen snaps before Sunday and Trey Jacobs. I don't mean 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.920 to pick on him, but oh, your fifteenth NFL snap. 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.039 Nick Bosa, Like that's tough. 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.320 Yeah, that's really tough. So the offensive line would be better. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.440 But I agree with you kind of in the big 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.200 picture that I think this is kind of the offense 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:43.360 philosophy they're gonna have. 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:44.679 Under Jakobe Brssett. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.719 But I still think, and I know we disagree on this, 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.960 but I just still think there are certain things that 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.320 the offensive line is going to cap their ability to do, 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.200 regardless of who the quarterback is, especially right now, and 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.120 guys aren't healthy, and they'll get some guys backs, some 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.320 guys they won't get back, right, And David Andrews are 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.800 still waiting to hear about Kaden Wallace, But yeah, I mean, 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.080 this is it, Kandy is what is this is the 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:08.960 group they put together. 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.560 Yeah, I mean, I'm in agreement with you on the 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.880 offensive line at this point, mainly because now there's so 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.760 many injuries to boot with all of the other issues 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.880 that they have talent wise, right, just in general that 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.320 you know, you lose David Andrews, you have no idea 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.000 who your left tackle is going to be weak in 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.840 and week out. It's just gotten ugly up there. Even 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.719 beyond the fact that they don't have a franchise left 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.479 tackle or a great you know, right tackle right now 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.920 either even know on when who played better I thought 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.200 last week, But in general, it just they don't have 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.280 the horses on the offensive side of the ball. So 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.080 for me to keep coming on here and picking on 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.440 the offense and picking on the offense and a VP 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:50.200 and Brissette and all those guys, it doesn't seem fair, 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.600 almost like a trade. Jacobs's fault that he can't block 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.800 Nick Bosa. No, but this is what I was saying 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:56.320 last week. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.880 I just I just I'm curious or I don't know 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.680 if you're going back on the take you had last 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:03.680 week or from just missing it. 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.080 But remember last week talk. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.320 About the Rams are figuring it out even though they 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.159 have their injuries and whatever, and I said, yeah, but 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.280 their injuries, it's different because they're starting from a higher point. 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:13.960 This was kind of my whole tape when we had 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:15.159 that conversation last week. 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.760 Yeah, was they are who they are. Yeah, I what 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:22.000 changed for me And granted it it's probably even premature now, 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.640 but because the forty nine ers are just a much 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.240 better team than you are. But what changed for me 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.880 is I actually thought the game plan and the script 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.640 that they called last week was what they have to 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.320 do with this group. They came out and they got 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.960 the ball out of Jacoby Brissett's hands. If first third 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.920 down of the game, they run a designed rollout into 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.440 the sideline for Pop Douglas, So they didn't just have 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.839 them drop back and sit there, you know, and have 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.120 the pass rush tee off on them. They ran a 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.160 lot of quick game. They tried to get the ball 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:56.039 into guys playmakers' hands quickly. I think that actually the 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.160 rollout was the second third down. The first third down 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.560 I think was that little throw into the flat. Ormandre 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.000 just broke a tackle and was able to convert after 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.560 the catch. Like that is what I wanted them to do. 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.760 Two weeks ago against the jets that they didn't do. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.360 And now I've seen them do that and it's like, okay, 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.920 well they can't run the offense that Van Pelta actually 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.240 wants to run. We know that they can't run a 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.520 quick game offense either with this collection of talent. So 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.440 what am I gonna yell at about? Like I could 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.560 do another hour on Drake may should be playing, but 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:26.960 that doesn't serve a purpose because he's not. He's not 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.960 gonna play. So with that being said, I don't want 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:31.920 to get bogged down by that because I want to 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:39.000 talk about the defense. Yep. Defensively, I'm my concern level 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:43.440 for the defense is almost higher at this point than 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.800 it is for the offense because my expectations for the 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:51.200 offense are is so low and my defensive expectations were higher. Right, 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.040 So now at this point I just said, I can't 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:55.720 really pick on the coaching from last week because I 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.320 think they tried to do the right things and it 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.480 just still didn't go well. Defensively, they are playing below 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:07.120 their talent level. Would you agree with that? Yes? And no, 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.640 I think they're playing I mean what talent level? 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:10.920 Like? 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.800 So I had people kind of on Twitter during after 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.040 the game on Sunday being like, well, you said this 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.480 could be a top ten defense when camp started, like 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.960 and you know you were wrong, blah Blah's like, well, yeah, 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.720 I said a unit that had Christian Barmore and Matthew 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.239 Judon and Juwan Bentley could be a top ten defense. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.800 You lose those guys, you don't just get to be 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.040 a top ten defense off reputation. So I still think 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.320 they're playing below the level of talent of the guys 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:42.000 they've available, But I do think that lost talent. And look, 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:43.720 they decided to trade Matthew Judon, right. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:45.960 Yeah, that's why I don't really they had to have 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:50.680 had to plan probably Kean right, Joshua and Fredy general 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:51.400 we can get to uch. 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:52.920 We kind of said that at this at the time, 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:54.560 that like, how is this going to work? 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:55.800 Now? 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.320 There are still guys like josh Ucha who I think 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.280 are are not playing well right now, hurting them. But 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.280 I also do think you have to look at it 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.320 as this is not the defense we spent the summer 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.079 talking about. It is not the same play. You could 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.319 argue they've lost three are the best four three and 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.560 you want to throw Kyle Dugger in there as well. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.760 For their best six defensive players. Right, they still have Gonzales, 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.800 they still have White. But if you were, if we 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.320 were at the beginning of camp to rank the best 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:28.319 defensive players, it would be in some order chewed on 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:35.840 bar More, Bentley, Dugger, Peppers all fight, and you'd throw 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:36.880 in White and Gonzalez. 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:37.080 Rr. 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:38.640 But we didn't know because those guys have only played 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.240 one year. Those five were really supposed to be the 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.720 cornerstones of your defense. Four of them are now hurt 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.640 and one they traded away. Yeah, so this is and 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.960 we knew depth was an issue. We talked about depth 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.280 being an issue at safety, We talked about depth being 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.400 an issue at corner. We talked a lot about depth 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.240 being an issue on the edge. This is just sort 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:58.320 of where they put themselves. 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.880 Well, I'm just gonna slightly disagree because the main reason 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.679 being is that I have seen the guys that they 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.800 have out there play better football. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.760 So, okay, is not this bad? No, no, no, So 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.720 I agree with you on that. I do think there's 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:15.480 more potential for them to be better than they are. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.280 But I think part of it for the fans watching, yeah, 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.800 hearing about what a great defense it was going to be, 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:24.040 and then seeing this, that's. 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.120 Part of the equation. It should not be this bad up. 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:26.920 But there are guys. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.000 Well, Tava is an interesting one because to me, the 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:30.360 problem is he's playing out of position. 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.280 Well, let's get to it. But I want to unpack it. 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.599 So I just want to throw out a couple of 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.599 stats first and foremost, just to kind of set the 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.840 table here right now. On defense, they are twenty eighth 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.120 in the league in DVOA. On defense, they are a 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.400 bottom five defense in the NFL. Number they are twenty eighth. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.760 No, not, you're made up. What do you means not 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.600 your made up acronyms. Give me a real number. Well, 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:52.880 give me a real number of out the defense. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.640 Okay, want a real number? Yes, how about yards per play? 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:57.760 Does that work for you? 0:10:57.880 --> 0:10:58.760 That's a real number. 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.360 Yes, they are twenty seventh in the league and yards 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.520 that's not good. Guess what they were last year and 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.360 probably middle of the pack. Third, Oh wow, top five, 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.440 top five. I'm gonna give you the fake number again 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:11.640 because you're a hater. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.160 One fake number, one real number, will do it like this. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.480 Nine. They were ninth in DVOA last year. This was 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.520 with Matthew Judah and Christian Gonzales basically playing for a 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.680 quarter of the season, final twelve weeks of the season, 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:26.400 and I get it. You know, if Paul was here, 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.680 he would tell me they played a bunch of Tommy 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.800 DeVito's and Gardner Minshew's and they'll get one of those 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.240 on Sunday with Tyler Huntley and maybe the defense will 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.800 look better. But the point being is that they were 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.520 third in yards per play last year. Yeah, they were 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.520 ninth and DVOA last year they are twenty eighth and 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.679 twenty seventh, respectfully in those stats this year. I'll give 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.599 you one last one. This is a tangible one for you. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:49.960 This is a real stat third down defense. 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:51.320 Okay, that's tangible. 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.360 The Patriots are thirty first in the league on third 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.160 down run. It's brutal, thirty first. For the record, I 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.000 didn't disagree with your take. I just didn't want you 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.080 to do DVA. I know, thirty first in the league 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.480 on defense on third down defense last year they were seventh. 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:11.800 So they haven't just Christian Barmoard and Juwan Bentley regressed here. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:17.440 They have hardcore regressed. Like this is a major drop off. 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.480 And let's also not forget that with Barmore and without 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.880 bent you know, without Bentley and Barmore, if you want 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:28.559 to throw dude on there. They also got back Christian Gonzales, right, 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.920 they also got back certain guys. You know, Keon White 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.240 is a better football player this year than he was 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.440 last year. So as much as I want to agree 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.280 with you about some of the injuries, I Mike rape 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:42.920 right now at the defense is this, and this is 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:44.760 my big take for you. Can I give you one 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.800 more number? Two? You can because I I because you 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:47.600 know I love the numbers. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.000 Yeah, so you know, you know how I could scoring? 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:50.200 Right? 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.400 What's on the scoreboard? What are we talking about there? Yeah? 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.880 So they actually haven't dropped that much. 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.360 In terms of over their scoring. Seventeenth. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.800 They're seventeenth. They finished last year fifteenth. But part of 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:02.400 that is because I was actually looking. You just made 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.240 me think this because looking at something similar earlier. They're 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.520 running the ball a lot and they're shortening the games. Right, 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:12.720 points per drive allowed? You want to guess what they are? 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:14.120 You want to do the guessing game? 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.240 Wait, give me again, give it to me again. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.480 Points per dry, points allowed per drive. Oh so this 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.040 is basically they're probably down. You have points allowed, but 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.200 because the games are so much shorter because the clock 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.559 running right now, that's why I brought up yards per play. Okay, 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:28.160 so yeah, so this is similar. So last year they 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.560 were actually fifth. Yeah, they allowed one point six yards 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.120 per drive for just because this is a staff people 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.040 use a lot. The Ravens led the league at one 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.160 point three per drive. The Commanders were dead last to 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.640 two point five, So you kind of want to be 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.960 between one point five and two point five. This year 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.280 they ranked twenty second two point one to one yards 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.960 per drive. They're averaging an extra half point per drive, 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.760 which doesn't sound like a lot. It is a lot 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.640 over the course of a game that that adds up, 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.360 and they're doing that because they have to shorten the 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.400 games because it's the only way they can win. It 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.720 significantly decreases the margin forrer. 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:04.640 Yeah, I understand that there's always that element with this 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.520 defense that they're on the field a lot in some 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.360 of these games. Even though that wasn't true for the 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.280 first two games of the year, it has been true 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.520 the last two games. There are a time of possession 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.800 numbers have even doubt. At this point they're middle of 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.360 the pack, and time of possession after being pretty good 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.800 in the first two weeks. There, They're on the field 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.160 a lot, their offense isn't scoring, their margin forreerr is 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:24.920 not very big. 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.560 To your point, they were on the field a lot 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.840 last year. Yeah, and relative to how much they were 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.200 on the field, they are allowing significantly more points this 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:35.280 year than they were last year. 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.480 Yeah. So my big picture thought, and then I wanted 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.280 to talk about this forty nine ers game specifically, and 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.560 then one other big picture type of item, my big 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.800 picture thought with this team in general, but I specifically 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.840 look at the defense with Grod Mayo and say, you're 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.320 a defensive guy, like this is your side of the ball. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.200 You're a former linebacker turned defensive assistant coach turn head coach, 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.600 like this is supposed to be you are supposed to 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.360 be Demico Ryance, right, Like that's supposed to be your 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.480 defense that you are running. My biggest gripe right now 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.040 at this defense and with the team as a whole. 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.840 But I put more on girod for the defense for 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.240 those reasons. This is screaming and I'm not saying he's 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.520 not doing this. It's just not manifesting itself on Sundays. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:20.280 This is screaming for Girod to come into a coaches 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:25.720 meeting on Tuesday, Monday Tuesday and say what are we 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:30.200 doing on third down? DeMarcus, what the heck are we 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.240 doing on third down? We're thirty first in the league 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.400 on third down. We can't get off the field, and 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.080 the main reason is the edge. We know that they're 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.360 letting the quarterbacks out of the pocket, the quarterbacks either 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.480 scrambling or he's extending plays, and then they're finding receivers 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.080 open down the field. But we'll talk about this more 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.320 in a minute, but it's just also let's not involve 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:55.720 the player errors for a second, like schematically, what are 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.160 we doing on third down that we can do differently 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.400 that can be better, because we need to throw out 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.000 what we're doing now, like dead, second to last in 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.840 the league is not where the New England Patriots should 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.480 be on defense. It just isn't. So we need to 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.320 throw that out and we need to start over there. Well, 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:15.360 we get into the player meetings, the squad meetings, setting 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.520 the edge of the defense has to be non negotiable. 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.040 You either set the edge or you're on the bench. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.120 I don't care if you're Keon White. I don't care 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.840 if you're Joshua Uce, Anthony Jennings. I don't care if 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.080 you're somebody from the practice squad that they elevated in 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.600 a just on a one off in a week. If 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.080 you're gonna play defense for us, you're gonna set the 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.040 edge and you're gonna keep the quarterback in the pocket. 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.640 Non negotiable. I'd say the same thing on the other 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.920 side of the ball about turnovers and fumbling Ramandre Stevenson, 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.400 non negotiable, right like, this is not going to go 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:49.120 fly here and first drive of the game against San Francisco, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.960 and I agree with DeMarcus Comington, who we spoke to 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.200 this morning and he said it improved over the course 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.240 of the game. I agree with that it wasn't as 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.280 big of a problem outside of that opening drive as 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.120 it was later on on in the game. But opening 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.680 drive of the game, three third downs in a row, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.520 three blown edges in a row. You're either coaching it 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.240 or you're allowing it to happen. It's that simple, and 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.320 right now the coaching staff is allowing this kind of 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.920 stuff to happen. So on that level, we have to schematically, 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:17.800 we have to change up what we're doing on third down. 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.119 It's clearly not working what they're trying to do on 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.159 third down, and then we have to hold the players 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.320 accountable for their performance and their errors on the field. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.639 I feel like this whole team is screaming for the 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:32.840 head coach to put his foot down on some of 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.479 these things. And it's not let's make a list of 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.640 fifty things that we need to do better. It's let's 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.960 make a list of five things. Let's make a list 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.080 of three things that we need to do better. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.560 Was it sounds like what they did last week with 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.680 the non negotiables that he was talking about, Like we 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:50.359 didn't accomplish the non negotiables. 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.879 There's you're not going to fix everything that ails you 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.520 in one week, right. They're not all of a sudden 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.160 going to be this buttoned up team with a great 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.400 offensive line and receivers make and plays in YadA, YadA YadA. 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.479 It's not gonna look like that. So let's narrow it 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.920 down to like three or four things that we tangibly 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:09.720 feel like we can fix. I feel like they can 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.639 fix their third down defense. There are reps on film 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.640 of their third down defense where they have good rush, 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.639 they have good coverage, They just need to marry the 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.159 two of them together more consistently. So I think they 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.320 can be better on third down. You're better on third 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:23.800 down you get off the field that you don't give 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.840 up all these points, You don't give up all these yards, 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.240 right because you're not extending drives. Now, I want to 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.920 talk about the forty nine Ers game specifically. The forty 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:37.320 nine Ers game to me came down to personnel. When 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.680 the Patriots opened the game and nickel, they got run 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.040 on in nickel, so they adjusted to base. That was 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.960 the game. So in nickel defense they were giving up 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.600 almost seven yards of carry. It was twelve for like 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.359 eighty yards right around that range when they got into 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.560 the game. Very first play of the game is an 0:18:56.600 --> 0:19:00.200 outside zone play to Deebo Samuel. He goes for eight yards. 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.199 And then as soon as they started giving up all 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.800 those yards on the ground, they put heavy personnel on 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.359 the field. They put base defense on the field. And 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.240 what does Kyle Shanahan do. He goes over the top, 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.480 he starts throwing the ball, and then they throw on 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.480 base defense. They have five explosive plays in the passing 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:20.840 game against base defense. Brock Purty averaged sixteen yards per 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:24.680 attempt against base defense ridiculous sixteen per attempt per attempt 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:26.400 in that game on Sunday. 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:27.800 What do you have to say about Rock Party? 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.280 Evan, good game by Brock, good game by Kyle. But 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.600 this ye have to say about Rock Party, This stuff, 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:40.440 this stuff isn't complicated. Though they they hit four explosives 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:44.400 on the same concept, the same post cross concept, they 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.640 didn't do it. This was not even in Kyle's bag, 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.359 Like he wasn't even in the deep part of the 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.720 bag yet, Like he was just he didn't even need 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.639 to dust off those plays, like the plays that he 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:55.520 would call in like a big game, right, like he 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.600 was just this was day one install type stuff for 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:00.760 the forty nine ers that they were straight the Patriots with. 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:06.640 When it comes to coaching there, first of all, there's 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.640 no reason why Jelanni Teva should be the Tampa two 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.160 linebacker and base defense and covering Brandon Ayuk and Juwan 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:16.199 Jennings twenty five yards down the field. That is not 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.479 on Jolannie Devai. That's not his game. That's not what 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.120 he's here for. That's not what he's built for. That's 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.800 a coaching issue. You can't allow Jilannievie to be in 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.840 that position where he's covering those guys, and it's. 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:32.239 Not just that, it's not just like, that's not what 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.960 am I trying to say? Like, remember the first year here, 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:36.760 he was like bad and we were all like, why 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.159 is Johnny Tevai here? And then Bill came out in 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:40.720 the summer and was like He's gonna make the team. 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:41.159 We were like what. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.160 And then his first year here he was playing this role, 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:45.920 he was playing off the ball. So they have seen 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:50.320 him in this role in this defense and it not work. Yeah, 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.320 So it's not even like all right, well our depths then, 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.080 so we gotta try this. You know, he's not the 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.840 guy for that, because they they tried that when did 0:20:57.840 --> 0:20:58.199 you get here? 0:20:58.240 --> 0:20:58.600 Twenty two? 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.240 I think right twenty one around there? They try that 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:02.120 with him and it didn't work. 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.040 Yeah, so they have him playing in a bad position 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:08.320 for him. You know that's not going to work. Him 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:10.760 playing that far down the field and having to cover 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.560 receivers and you know athletic receivers, good receivers, you know, 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:20.600 I you Brandon Deebo, Samuel Dwan Jennings like really good players. Right, 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.240 you can't have a two hundred and fifty pound linebacker 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.600 doing that sort of stuff that to me is coaching. 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.720 And what it goes back to is I thought about 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:30.399 this after I watched this game and I saw the 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.720 splits of Bass Nickel and like all this stuff that's 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:37.479 going on from the personnel standpoint, and I know it's unfair, 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.600 but we all are doing it. I'm sure what would 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.520 Bill have done? What would Bill have done in this spot? 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:47.280 And my reaction to what Bill would have done in 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:51.000 this spot was he would have said, if you want 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.880 to run the ball forty times and average six yards 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.800 of carry against our nickel defense and shorten the game 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:58.800 for us and give us a chance to stay in 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.639 this thing because it's thirteen ten in the fourth quarter, 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.120 because we both ran the ball forty times, have at 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.399 it be my guest he would not have pulled the 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.120 plug on Nickel as quickly as this regime did. Right 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.199 like he would have held his water. And maybe if 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:15.639 they got into halftime and they were twenty to nothing 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:18.240 and halftime and it was a real real issue, like 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.560 they were averaging. You know, they had one hundred and 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:24.080 fifty rushing yards at halftime and they just couldn't even 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.919 come close to stopping the run game. Then maybe there 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.160 would have been a big adjustment. 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.560 Well what do you think he would have done, like 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:33.000 factoring and they couldn't set the edge, not just containing 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:34.560 the quarterback in the pocket, they couldn't set the edge 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:35.080 in the run game. 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:35.520 Yeah. 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.479 So I just think it's hard to play that way 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:40.000 if you can't set the edge in the run game, right. 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:45.000 I think from a personnel standpoint, he would have told 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:47.440 them to keep running the ball, you know, not literally, 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:49.760 but you know what I'm saying, Like he would have said, 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:52.240 it's fine, just run the ball. We're what we're not 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:54.960 gonna do is we're not gonna allow the explosive pass 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:56.960 plays through the air. We're not gonna allow you to 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:58.480 hit the pat You're gonna be able to run the 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.719 ball today, but you're not gonna be able to And 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.000 this game would happen was is they let the Niners 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.359 do both. The Nyers could do whatever they wanted. They 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.439 could pass it, they could throw it, they could run it, 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:09.480 they could do whatever they want. Bill would have shut 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:11.439 off one of those faucets, right, Like, you can have 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.439 one way, but you can't have it the other. And 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:15.480 most of the time towards the end. I would say, 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:17.200 I don't know what it was like in the beginning, 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:20.000 but most of the time he would give up the run. 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.240 He would say, just run the ball. Run the ball 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.520 forty times. We'll run it forty times, it'll be seventeen 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:27.639 to thirteen, and we'll see where the cards lie at 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:29.800 the end of the game. Like that, That's how I 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:32.520 feel like it would have gone with Bill. The other 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:35.800 thing that just came to me that I felt was 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:39.680 kind of annoying to an extent, or just not annoying. 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.320 Annoying is the wrong word. I just thought was interesting 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:46.640 was on Saturday, I was at the Giants game and 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:50.800 they sign Isaiah Bolden to the fifty three man roster, 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:57.320 and I'm thinking to myself, Huh, this might be creative, 0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:01.640 this might be different. Maybe they're thinking of playing Isaiah 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:05.200 Bolden in the nickel instead of Marcus Jones because they 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.359 know that Kyle Shanahan is gonna put the nickel in 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.440 the run fit, like they know they're gonna run it 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:11.280 at the edge and they're gonna run it at one 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.280 hundred and eighty pounds of Marcus Jones, who on the 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.480 very first play of the game on the eight yard 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.520 carry I mentioned earlier, gets turned outside of his gap 0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:21.800 by Juwan Jennings and just has like no chance. Like 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.120 it's a six three, two hundred and fifteen pound guy 0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:26.600 against a five foot eight hundred and eighty pound guy. 0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:28.959 Do you do the math, like who's gonna win that battle? 0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:32.840 So I thought, Okay, maybe they're gonna give Isaiah Bolden 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.480 a chance to play the nickel. That way, there you 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.920 have a more athletic guy that can drop in coverage 0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:40.040 and do those types of things. But he's bigger, and 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.959 he's longer, and he's heavier than Marcus Jones, and that 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.320 might allow him to hold up in the run game 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.679 against Nickel. Didn't play, didn't play till the very end 0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:52.200 of the game when it was garbage time. Three safety Nickel. 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.640 I get they lost Dugger at halftime, but it could 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:59.359 have been Pettis Hawkins as your deep safety. Is Jabriel 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:02.520 Peppers as as your nickel, right, it could have been 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.200 Hawkins as the nickel Peppers deep. Like Hawkins and Peppers 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.359 are gonna play significant snaps for this team. They are 0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.560 de facto starters, both of them. So it's not like 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.040 I'm putting in Peppers a captain, I know, but I'm 0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:19.040 just talking about Hawkins. You know, I'm not putting in 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.679 a guy we just signed from the practice squad yesterday. 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:23.840 I'm putting in a guy that's playing for us in real, 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:29.000 real significant time. So there was no adjustment like that, 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.959 There was no creativity like that. Their adjustment was to 0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:35.040 go base. They they got into base, they began stopping 0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:37.919 the run and base, but then they gave up the 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:42.159 pass plays and it just felt to me like they 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.800 had coaching wise, they just really did not have an 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:50.560 answer for any of it, which is demoralizing. I just 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.040 I don't know where they go on that side of 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:57.280 the ball right now, because they are underperforming by my expectations, 0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.040 and I haven't seen this coaching staff the chops yet 0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:03.639 to adjust on the fly and make a good adjustment. 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:06.399 Yeah, I mean, I'm with you, And I also just 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.160 think sometimes what you have to do when all right, 0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.880 the game plan's not working, You gotta tell your blue 0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.239 chip players go out there and make a play. Who 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:15.960 are they telling to do that at this point? Like 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.240 teams aren't throwing your Christianzalz. You can't really do that 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.480 with a corner, right You had in these situations. Matthew 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.080 Judon go out there and make a play. Christian Barmer 0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:25.520 will go out there and make a play. The closes 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.760 they have is Keon White, who's getting a ton of attention. Now, 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.080 you don't really have another guy it's supposed to be 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:31.680 josh U Chip. You don't really have another guy you 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:32.439 can turn to for that. 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:36.359 Yeah, I just I would like to see this staff. 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.680 They've been pretty vanilla on the defensive side of the 0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:43.639 ball so far. Maybe some of that is is injuries, 0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.560 I don't know, but really, three weeks in a row, 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:52.119 Ryan Grubb, Nate Hackett, who's not a good offensive coordinator 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:56.480 with the Jets, and obviously now Kyle Shanahan have had 0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.399 their way with this defense in this coaching staff. On 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.000 the they've got out coached in three straight games on 0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.360 the defensive side of the ball. This is what happens 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.399 when you come out Week one against the Bengals, you 0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.479 put some new stuff on film. These coaches are too smart. 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.560 They're gonna watch your film and they're gonna say, oh, like, 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:17.080 you know, they were doing this last year. It's similar, 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.440 but it's different in you know this way, that way 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.560 and this way and we're gonna adjust to it, and 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.600 we're gonna have their play calls ready. We're gonna have 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.760 our shot plays ready for when they play this coverage 0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:29.320 or that coverage and they adjust. It's now it's time 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:33.439 for Covington and Mayo and Pellegrino and Brian Belichick and 0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.719 all these guys to get back together and figure out 0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.640 a way to adjust to the adjustments. And right now 0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.120 they just haven't been quick enough to that punch. We'll 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:46.760 see what they do on Sunday. Yeah, third down the 0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:48.680 biggest thing to me on third down. Right now, they're 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:50.040 thirty first in the league. I don't know if you 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:50.359 heard that. 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:51.040 You didn't mention that. 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.320 I said that seven times because it's can't believe it. 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:57.200 Thirty first in the league on third down, and I 0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:01.440 should mention this too. Their base defense against San Francisco 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.280 was fifty eight percent. That was the highest base defense 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:06.960 rate they've played in the game in the Next Gen 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.560 era going back six seasons. That's the highest amount of 0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:13.399 base they've ever played in the game since twenty eighteen. 0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.919 Their other Next Gen Era stat that, I'll give you 0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.159 man coverage on third down. They're playing the lowest amount 0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.600 of man coverage they've played in six years on there. 0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.840 That one I don't get, especially against the team league. 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.000 We talked about this with the Jets. These bigger receivers 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:33.240 you don't especially not to play as at Bolden. You 0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:38.959 don't have the personnel to you know, kind of physically 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.360 handle bigger receivers in the middle of the field. 0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.840 Yeah, you've got to win technically, right. So they aren't 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.560 playing as much third down anymore. They're playing a lot 0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.880 of too high safety shell. They're playing a lot of 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:53.120 Cover two on third down. When you play Cover two, 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.760 especially two man, which they've played a couple reps in 0:28:55.800 --> 0:29:00.360 of two man against San Francisco. The big ish with 0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:04.120 playing Cover two is that there's nobody that's assigned to 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:08.840 the quarterback. The quarterback, there's no free defender in the 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.160 box or at the first let's call it the first 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:15.200 two levels of the defense. There's no free defender to 0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.200 mirror the quarterback in the pocket, So as soon as 0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:21.240 the quarterback gets outside the pocket, he just has free 0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:23.640 rain out there to do whatever he wants. So they're 0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:25.840 playing a lot of Cover two with a four man rush. 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.840 So when you play Cover two four man rush, you 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.560 have those two high safeties up top. What they used 0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.000 to do is they'd play man with a post safety 0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.200 in the middle of the field. And now that other 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.800 safety is he's in the rat or like a robber roll, 0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.960 or he's a spy on the quarterback in the low hole. 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:45.960 Now they don't have that player anymore at the first 0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.920 two levels. So when they run their games and their 0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.440 stunts and there's some pressures and all this kind of stuff, 0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.800 there's no second layer to the pass rush. It's either 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.360 we're getting home or he's getting out, and there's no 0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.440 in between. It's boom or bust. There's no in between. 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.120 Right now, it's been a lot of bust. They've been 0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:06.520 getting pressure, but not the good kind of pressure. It's different. 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.840 What they're doing schematically is a little bit different than 0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:10.960 what they used to do in the past. I am 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.680 screaming for them to go back to the five man 0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.760 rush package. We last couple of years it's been Mack 0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.840 Wilson in that role, kind of spying the quarterback, marrying 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:23.320 the quarterback that way. There you can run your stunts, 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.360 you can run your games, you can run your pressures, 0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:27.760 you can run all that kind of stuff. And Keon 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.440 White and Joshua Ucha and all these other guys. They 0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.400 can pin their ears back and try to get after 0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:38.600 the quarterback because they know that Sioni Taki Taki is 0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.440 going to get the quarterback on the ground when he scrambles. 0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:43.640 Mac Wilson in the past is going to get the 0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.360 quarterback on the ground when he scrambles. Or they have 0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.120 a robber like Kyle Dugger is playing robber in the 0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.480 middle of the field, so if the quarterback takes off 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.080 to try to run for the first down, they have 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.480 somebody that can run and catch up to him and 0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.880 get him down short of the line to gain I 0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:02.080 don't really like what they're doing on third down. The 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.240 way that I view what they're doing on third down 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:08.680 is that it's very much like Flores Minnesota Vikings type stuff. 0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.320 I know the Baltimore stuff has been thrown out there. 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.360 I don't see it that way on film. I see 0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.400 a lot more Flores is running a lot of fire zone, 0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:20.240 like five six man fire zones where they show cover zero, 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.800 but instead of playing man to man, they play zone 0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:26.520 out of cover zero. What the Patriots are doing is 0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.400 pure cover two most of the time, and there's just 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.360 these quarterbacks just have all day. It's not because they 0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.240 aren't getting pressured. It's because they're getting out of the 0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:40.440 pocket when they get pressured. So that has to be somewhere. 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.600 I'm sure it's still in the playbook that the five 0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:47.560 man rush package. If it's not, it's buried in some 0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.560 desks somewhere in this office. Like, go find it, go 0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.280 dust it off, put it back in the playbook. Because 0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.680 you have guys that can cover in man to man. 0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.400 You have Christian Gonzalez who can take a Brandon Aiyuk 0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:01.960 one on one. You have Jonathan Jones, you can take 0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.800 a Tyreek Killer, a Jalen Waddle. Go back to playing 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.800 more Manton man on third down, get that fit defender 0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.880 in the rush, get off the field. If they don't 0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:12.800 do that on Sunday, I'm gonna be really disappointed. Like, 0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.400 this is not a simple this is not a hard fix. 0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.240 This is a simple fix, and they've struggled with this. 0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:22.280 I hope people understand the two high one high explanation. 0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.080 I tried my best, but that that's what I am 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.840 seeing the most on third down right now is they 0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.280 don't have anybody accounting for the quarterback and they are 0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.600 playing these zones. And then also, you know when they 0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:38.080 quarterback rolls out, you also have to remember that if 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:42.240 let's say Christian Zalez has the flat. If Christian Zalez 0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:45.160 has the flat, and now he runs up to get 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.200 the quarterback, the receiver he was supposed to be covering 0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.920 behind them, his ride open. And that's what Aaron Rodgers 0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.800 did for four quarters against the Jets. He would get 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:56.920 the defense to come to him and then he'd find 0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.720 the tight ends right when those zone defenders, those short 0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.560 zone defenders came up, he'd find the tight ends right behind. 0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.280 The strew just essentially becomes an option play. 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.920 Yeah, it's just it's not working on third down schematically. 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.240 I don't think that it's because they don't have pass rushers. 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:14.520 I don't think that it's because they aren't getting pressure 0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.680 on the quarterback. They are just not marrying it all 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.440 together very well. Right now, Keon White's getting pressure on 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.400 the quarterback. Yeah, he might be a one man reckon crew, 0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.160 but he's getting there, right, He's getting there. They have 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.720 to find ways to keep the quarterback in the pocket. 0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.560 Those are my gripes on the defense. I think there's 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:35.320 a lot to chew with that. I really feel like 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.240 a lot of these things that I am talking about 0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:40.880 are coaching Like, this is not they don't have the players. 0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.800 This is coaching issues. These are things that the coaches 0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:48.680 can fix, and I'm disappointed that they changed the defense 0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:50.720 as much as they did. Like, you had a top 0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.640 ten defense last year with a lot of the same 0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.560 people personnel wise, why did you come into this and 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.360 throw out all the Belichick stuff and start a new. 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.040 Yeah, the whole draw of drawd Mayo and being able 0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.520 to keep to Marcius Covington. We talked a lot about 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.160 this when we were doing the coaching stuff back in 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.960 the winter. Was you want to be able to keep 0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.560 continuity on defense because you're building something on defense, and 0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.000 they haven't done that to this point. Now maybe they're 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.840 calling it simpler because of the injuries, but again, a 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:20.800 lot of these guys are here. You shouldn't need to 0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.080 simplify it for the backups because the backups have been 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.080 in the system, most of them anyway, So. 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:27.120 It's definitely frustrating to see. 0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:28.840 I do think there is a level of them just 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.040 playing on discipline, though, and that goes back to your 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:32.799 point of either you're coaching it or you're allowing it 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:34.560 to happen at a certain point, there isn't a difference. 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.800 But like, I know, there's supposed to be more aggressive 0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.360 in the rush, but I think there's a line between 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.879 aggressive and reckless. And at a certain point you watch 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.000 guys just flying by the quarterback coming up the field, 0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.200 and it's like, what exactly. I know you're trying to 0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.239 be aggressive, but what exactly does that accomplish. 0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:54.560 Yeah, there's there's some stuff going on with how those 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.920 edge guys are being coached. Yeah, this year compared to 0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:01.279 how they have been coached in years past. We know 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.840 because we've been here. And it's also I feel like 0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:08.560 our listeners know that with Bill running past the quarterback 0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.920 in the pocket would find you some pine time immediately, 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.880 Like if you didn't stay it was you know, level 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.000 or you know, at the same level as the quarterback 0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:22.440 or better up the field, you know, closer to the 0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.399 line of scrimmage. You were not gonna play in Bill 0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:30.680 Belichick's defense, right, whether you were didn't matter who you were, 0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.200 you weren't gonna play. The only guy that I saw 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.759 that Bill allowed to have free reign was Judon. Yeah, 0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.280 that's the only guy I've seen in our time covering 0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.360 the team that truly got Carte Blanche to do whatever 0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:41.719 he wanted. 0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.200 It's just two guys. It's at least it's called going 0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:47.439 back ten years. It's Jude On and it's Chandler Drones. Yeah, 0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.040 and they end up trading Chandler Jones instead of signing him. 0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.480 So clearly that came to it with an extent, you know, 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.080 But both of those guys could make it work because 0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.520 they were so immensely talented. Nobody on this roster's that 0:35:58.520 --> 0:35:59.000 town right. 0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.799 And whenever Judon would run the arc and get back 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.120 past the quarterback, there was always somebody there to make 0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.680 them right. Right, There's always somebody there to replace him 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.400 on the sea gap and get into his gap. Whether 0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.920 it was by design or it was just instinct or whatever, 0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.759 those guys were making him whole by allowing him to 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:20.520 do that. And right now, Keon White, I'm with Keon 0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.360 White on this a little bit because I sort of 0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.319 feel like if they don't allow Keon White to do 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.360 what he's doing, they're not gonna have a pass rush. 0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:31.680 So I would allow Keon White to do Keon White like, 0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.160 if you want to go inside, then go inside. I 0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:36.759 would put the onus on the other guys that are 0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:40.320 in the pass rush to make him right, like replace 0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.719 the sea gap. You know, if he's gonna run inside, 0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.400 and he's gonna say, but this is to Keon White, 0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.919 like you have to tell your guys what you're gonna do. Yeah, 0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:49.760 you know if you're gonna say, hey, I've been setting 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.560 up this inside move. You know I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:54.680 run it right now. Third down. We got to get 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.680 off the field. I'm going inside. Then Dietrich Wise or 0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:02.279 Daniel Qualley or Jeremiah Arms or whoever else is out 0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.480 there on the field with him needs to say, Okay, 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.839 I got you right, Like you go inside. I got 0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.279 it right. And that's how they you know, they've done 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.399 it in the past. That disconnect is there right now 0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:16.520 where Devon Goaja says that people are being selfish. I've 0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.480 heard the word freelancing, you know, on their own program. 0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:23.000 I don't think it's necessarily that it's purposeful, like they're 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:26.200 trying to not play within the defense. I just don't 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:29.120 think the communication or like the execution as a whole 0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:32.440 is going very well right now. So O Jays screaming 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.280 up the field and there's nobody that is a second 0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.880 layer for him when he does that. So is that 0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.240 Ooja's fault or that guy's fault, Like, it's everybody's fault. 0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:45.239 Everybody's wrong, right, So that's something that they need to 0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.200 clean up. Let's talk about the quarterbacks real quick. We'll 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.160 do three up, three down, We'll get to the phones. 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.040 Where do you stand right now with Jacoby Brissett. You 0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:55.960 know my opinion, but where where do you stand? 0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:57.880 I mean just kind of so you know, I was 0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.320 a little more defensive of him the last few weeks 0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.760 in terms of people saying he's holding the ball, like, uh, 0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:04.520 it's not holding as long as you think the line 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.600 hasn't been great whatever, don't get me wrong, Like the 0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:08.480 line was bad in this game too, But I thought 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.560 this was his worst game of the year. I think 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:11.759 he's starting to get sped up. 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.640 Yeah, he's, I. 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.719 Mean, his internal clocks off. The thing I notice is 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:23.320 it almost seems like he's bracing for contact when contact's 0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:28.239 not there, right, he's anticipating hits. It's less that he's 0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.560 seeing ghosts in the coverage. I almost feel like he's 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.560 seeing ghosts in the pass rush. Yeah, where he just 0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:35.960 like assumes he's about to get hit if he's had 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:37.560 the ball for like two secs. I think that's leading 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:40.680 to some of his accuracy issues because he's throwing as 0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:44.120 if he's throwing through contact when there's no contact. And 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:46.680 I mean, you know where I've been on jacobd Verssett. 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:48.760 I think, at the end of the day, nitpicking Jacoby 0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:49.799 Versset's performance, we. 0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:50.200 Can do it. 0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:52.839 I don't know how relevant it is, just because he's 0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:55.160 thirty one years old. We know who he is at 0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:59.320 this point. His growth, his development really isn't of consequence 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.359 to this team right now. It's all about Drake may 0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:03.759 having said I thought it was his worst game of 0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:05.399 the year, and I think you are starting to see. 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:07.680 I know Alex van Pelt said today that he doesn't 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:11.200 think that Brissett's field vision or timing is thrown off 0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.320 because the line I think it is. Van Pelt's not 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:15.840 gonna say that he's not gonna throw the guy or 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:20.319 the line under the bus. But the fact that a 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:25.239 seasoned veteran like Jacoby Brissett has been sped up and 0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:29.359 is seeing ghosts in just four games, especially four games, 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:31.759 are not throwing the ball a toime to. 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.480 Me is all the more reason. 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:36.920 I know people are gonna hate it, but it's all 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:38.920 the more reason you'd be patient with Drake May because 0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:43.040 that is the one advantage Jacoby Brissett definitively has over 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.799 Drake May. He knows how to handle this. He's been 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.000 in the spot before, he's been on bad teams, he's 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:49.040 been on losing teams. 0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:50.200 He's been on teams where. 0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.680 He gets hit a lot, and he's in the NFL. 0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.480 And yeah, I was about to say no Carolina, Okay, 0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.680 but we're talking about you know, two hundred and forty A. 0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:04.880 You see edge rushers, not Nick Bosa or Bradley Chubb 0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.799 coming off the edge for Miami. Right So that doesn't 0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.279 mean Drake can't handle it. I just don't want to 0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:12.239 risk finding out whether he can or can't right now 0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:16.919 because Jacoby, again, Jacobra sets the guy like, this guy 0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.239 can handle himself when it's all breaking apart around him. Now, 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:22.920 there's a talent level to which he you know, capped 0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:27.520 to which with he can do that. But if a 0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.600 guy like Jacobra sets sped up, that's not a good 0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:31.040 sign because the one thing he is going for him 0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:32.520 is that's not usually the kind of guy that gets 0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:32.960 sped up. 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.319 So the one, the one play where I started to 0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:40.359 get concerned about his mental wear and tear being sped up. 0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:44.919 It's third down and he just ran straight into the pocket. Yeah, 0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:45.960 like straight up. 0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:47.839 Into the posts, just like early in the second half. 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.000 I want to say that that sounds right, I think, 0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:51.520 I think I know a player talking about. 0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:54.360 So it's a it's a mesh concept. So there's the 0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.759 crossing routs over the middle of the field, and then 0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.320 usually with that they pair like a sit right and 0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:03.239 right over the ball that Hunter Henry runs Hunter it's 0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.520 manton man coverage. The forty nine ers don't cover Hunter Henry, 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:10.280 so they blow. They blow the assignment and they don't. 0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.760 No one's covering Hunter Henry in the middle of the field, 0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.520 And all Jacobe Brissett's got to do is let the 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.840 crossers clear, just let the picture clear, and just stand 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.120 in the middle of the pocket and deliver a ball 0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.840 to Hunter Henry, who there's a post safety in the 0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.640 up top, so like maybe he makes the tackle, but 0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:29.600 if he doesn't make the tackle, then he's running for 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.839 a while, right, Yeah, So all he's got to do 0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.440 is just let the trash clear from in front of 0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.919 him and just let the seize part and then throw 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:39.480 the ball right through the middle of the field to 0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:45.160 Hunter Henry and he runs almost full speed right through 0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:48.120 the middle of the line and right into a sack, 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.560 like literally right into pressure. And at that point I 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:55.840 was like, you know, like that, that looks like a quarterback, 0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.600 you know, Nick Bosa. He was coming around the edge 0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:00.920 a little bit, but like on and when it was okay, 0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.160 like it wasn't terrible. 0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:06.680 But Brissette's expecting He's not expecting to have that one right. 0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:10.399 Like I could see how Brissette would sense that Nick 0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:13.080 Bosa was starting to turn the corner. But it was 0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.640 one of those plays where two steps up in the 0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:18.480 pocket would have sufficed, and instead he took five steps 0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:21.120 up in the pocket. And those types of plays usually 0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:24.480 happen when a quarterback is sped up or seeing ghosts 0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:28.800 or feeling pressure that isn't there now. On the same breath, 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:30.799 I say all that, and because you know me, I 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:32.880 have to call for Drake May at some point of 0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:35.880 the show, I say that, and I see mistakes like 0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:39.280 that or just habits like that. Let's call him habits 0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:43.080 habits like that with Jacoby Brissett. I see him missing reads, 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.520 I see him missing throws, and I just think to myself, 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.600 a lot of these things are the flaws that I'm 0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.600 told Drake May has, like pocket you know, presence and 0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:57.359 mobility in the pocket and not you know, drifting into 0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.880 pressure and all that kind of stuff. I would just 0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:03.840 if perset's gonna make all these mistakes. And then we 0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.320 talked about this with the Jets week about the mental 0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.960 mistakes pre snap. If he's not going to dominate from 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:14.960 like the details perspective, then I'm running out of reasons 0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.359 other than your thing of like, don't subject Drake May 0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.600 to this kind of pressure. Yeah, I'm running out of 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:23.440 reasons to say that he is the better choice for 0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.520 them at quarterback right now because he's not seeing the field. 0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:30.279 He's not the better choice. He's not like if you're 0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:31.920 actually trying to go out and go one to oh 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:34.000 on the Sunday, he's not the better choice. 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:34.560 Yeah, he's not. 0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.440 And I don't think anybody's disputed that. But if you 0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:41.480 want to make sure that Drake May gets off to 0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.479 the start you want him to get off to, yeah, 0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:46.120 then it's got to be Jacoby Ver said at this 0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:47.960 point because Drake May is not going to have a 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.520 successful start with the way this line works. I know 0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:52.879 people are so sick of hearing that, but I'm gonna 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.319 keep saying it because it's true. This is not your 0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.880 average Let's go to the pressure numbers here. 0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:01.120 Well, while you're looking those up, I'll just yea, in 0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:04.080 my opinion, the areas where I think that Drake May 0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:08.120 makes them better, he makes them a lot more viable 0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:12.000 on third down to me, because he can improvise and 0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.920 he can run. So we saw this even against the Jets, 0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:16.719 where he you know, he picks up that fourth down 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.720 with his legs. Yep. Jacoba Brissette doesn't bring that element 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.360 to the table. So if there's nobody open in the 0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:25.080 initial progression and he's looking around and there's nobody open, 0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.880 Jacoba Brissette is sitting duck back there, there's nothing he 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.160 can do. Drake May can get out of the pocket, 0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.560 he can run, he can pick up the first down 0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.120 with his legs. He can improvise on the move and 0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:36.319 run and make throws on the move. 0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:39.000 But I don't want him doing that consistently because then 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.799 that becomes a habit and he never learns Okay, so 0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:46.200 right way to play quarterbacks. So, by the way, yeah, 0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:52.680 so according to Next Gen stats, yes, Jacoby Brissett has 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:56.960 been pressured on forty nine point six percent of his dropbacks. 0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.439 Okay, well, I have a rebuttal to this, but keep going. 0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:02.600 Not only set the highest number in the league, it 0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.040 is the highest number in the next gen era. No 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.400 quarterback has been pressured that much, at least since twenty eighteen. 0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:10.480 Your rebuttal is going to be pressures are caused by 0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:14.759 Jacoby were set holding the ball, according to PFF. Now 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.720 PFF charts pressures a little differently, so there is maybe 0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:18.800 something lost in translation. 0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:20.000 Now you're crossing swords. 0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:27.280 But Jacoby Weresset among all qualified quarterbacks the fourth fewest 0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:31.400 percentage of pressures accounted for seven point five percent. The 0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:35.080 only guys who are are have a lower percentage of 0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:39.160 pressures on their own responsibility or Geno Smith, Matthew Stafford 0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:39.880 and Kirk Cousins. 0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.000 So this last game against the forty nine ers was 0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:44.680 the first time where I thought that he was causing 0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:45.400 his own pressure. 0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:47.160 And I'm with you on that, but I think that 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:49.759 some of that, Yeah, I thought he was much worse 0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:51.919 in that regard, I think I can find that number. 0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:54.640 So he based off of my charting because I actually 0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:58.560 charted this myself. I had three sacks on Jacoby. Okay, 0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:00.839 this game, so he sacked six times. I had three 0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:04.000 of them on Jacoby. I had two other pressures on Jacoby, 0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:07.880 so we had five of like the sixteen pressure dropbacks 0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:08.520 were on Brazil. 0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:10.960 So I'm with you on that. But I think the 0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:13.680 reason that so, why wasn't it like that until now? 0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:17.400 The overall heat he faced through the first three weeks 0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:20.120 has led to him just completely losing sense of the 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.959 pocket and it's gone from bad to worse. 0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:24.360 This is a snowball effect. 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:26.680 So I think if you put Drake May in a 0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:30.279 guy who's less experienced, you're probably gonna say, see the 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.840 same thing happen, and it'll probably happen quicker. 0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:34.799 Okay, So I hear you? 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:36.120 Is it so? 0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:36.440 Sorry? 0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:37.800 Again? The point I wanted to make though when I 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.600 brought that up, yeah again, forty nine point six percent, 0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.040 fifty percent. This is not and I know I said 0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:44.320 this last week, but I feel like I have to 0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:46.920 keep repeating myself. This is not always going to have 0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.000 to learn how to face pressure in the NFL someday. 0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:53.600 This is not your basic NFL pressure that he's facing. 0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:57.040 This is a historic, historic rate. We are in David 0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:02.080 Carr Josh Rosen territory here. This is not normal. This 0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.960 is not something he should have to learn how to handle, 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:08.280 because this should not be the situation for him beyond 0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:08.680 this year. 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:09.480 If it is. 0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:12.040 The problem is with the front office more than anything else, 0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:15.520 because you simply need better players. This doesn't need to 0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:19.120 be happening. Yes, offensive line plays bad around the league 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.640 of every everybody's dealing with the same talent pool. Everybody's 0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.080 dealing with the same talent pool, and the Patriots are 0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:26.759 still making less of it than everybody else. 0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:31.520 So this is not deal with pressure. This is another level. Okay, 0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:35.200 I hear you. But because I can't get off this 0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:39.040 because it drives me nuts to watch back quarterback play. 0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.000 It drives me nuts. You know that, and I know 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:44.200 it does, and I can't stand it any longer because 0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.560 I'll give you a couple of tangible examples, and I 0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:49.760 know we don't have the film, so I'm like explaining things. 0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:54.760 But there's a third down play where he has Kishan 0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:59.160 Boody wide open on an in cut it's that they 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:01.240 run it all the time. I'm it's like a little 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:04.040 spot underneath and then the incut bends around the spot 0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.480 and you just kind of throw it off of you know, 0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:08.880 the coverage, right, you read out the coverage and you 0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:12.560 throw it and he's he's staring right at it, like 0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:14.600 you can see his headgear and it's he's he's staring 0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:16.560 right at it, and he just holds the ball. He 0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:20.279 just doesn't pull the trigger. And that happened. You know, 0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.880 I mentioned the Hunter Henry play. I meant, you know, 0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:24.960 a couple of the quick game concepts. 0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:25.239 You know. 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.359 I actually asked him about it in the locker room 0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:29.560 and he gave me an hod Its answer. But you know, 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:33.520 it's each play is individualized. Like sometimes they're he's saying, 0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:35.960 you know, sometimes they're coverage base, Like if it's one high, 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:37.600 I'm going to read left. If it's too high, I'm 0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:40.359 going to read right. Sometimes it's just progression reads right. 0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.560 But point being, it's every single play is different of 0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:45.920 how where he's supposed to open and where his eyes are. 0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:48.640 It feels to me like his eyes are not always 0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:51.600 in the right places, especially in this last game against 0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:54.080 the forty nine ers, so well, some of that is 0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:55.120 and we've talked about this. 0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:57.359 I wonder how much of that's on Van Pelt and 0:48:57.600 --> 0:48:59.920 what is How are they setting the order of the 0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:01.920 progressions and could that be changed? 0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.120 Because I think it should be changed. I both agree 0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:04.359 on that. 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:07.879 But my bigger picture point is I don't doubt Drake 0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:12.120 May can make that throw. Now when he's getting hit 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:15.120 every other drop back and he's taking some of these 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:17.399 big shots to Kobe Is and his bell gets run 0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.239 and his ribs start hurting, and now he you know, 0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:23.040 three seconds becomes two and a half in his head 0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:25.399 and things like that. Is he still going to make 0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:26.960 those those throws? 0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:27.399 Then? 0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:32.719 I get you don't like watching subpar quarterback play. If 0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:35.879 you put Drake May in for a game or two, 0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:39.080 it may elevate. But if he's still facing this level 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:41.600 of pressure and he's still taking these kind of hits, 0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:44.920 is it Are you consistent that he can keep that 0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:46.799 level or is he going to fall into some of 0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:49.440 the same stuff Jacobe Is. I just think that's not 0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:52.000 worth the risk. If your only reason that you want 0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:56.319 Drake May to play right now is shiny toy, right, 0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:58.439 I am a Patriots fan. I want to watch this guy, 0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.120 because I've heard him talked about. If that is your 0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:03.960 only reason, it's frankly not a good enough reason, because 0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:08.560 if it's not handled correctly, he's he's going to turn 0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:09.600 into exactly what you. 0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:10.360 Don't want to see. 0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:13.000 And congratulations, I hope you had fun with your two 0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:14.120 or three games before. 0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:14.719 He got sped up. 0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:17.399 That's not and I know I sound alarmist, and I'm 0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:19.120 not saying it has to be perfect. I'm also not 0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:21.080 one of these people as saying, wait three years and 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.040 well a guy draft a loft tackle this year, then 0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:25.160 a right tackle next year, then a wide receiver, then 0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:28.040 a center, and maybe in twenty twenty eight. No, I'm 0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.160 just saying get to the base level. I'm just saying, 0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:34.080 get to below average, below average, put him in. They 0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:37.120 are so far from below average right now. When it 0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:39.640 comes to protecting the quarterback that I think it's an 0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:41.759 I think it's a non starter. I think it has 0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:43.719 to be a non starter because yes, you may get 0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:46.319 that bumping quarterback play for one or two games US 0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:49.840 where girodmeo use. It's not sustainable, it's not good. Remember 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:51.640 when we walked away from that first game and I 0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:53.799 came in here and I said the line play was 0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:57.680 really bad and it was still better than we thought, 0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:01.359 and he was like, wow, they played poorly, but he won. 0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:03.520 That's part of what wasn't sustainable. 0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:05.759 You can't let your quarterback get hit like that week 0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.160 after week after week, no matter who he is. Even 0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:11.160 Brady would get affected by this stuff from time to time. 0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:13.040 Now he could bounce back. He was also in the 0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:15.200 league for twenty years and never faced anything like this, 0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:17.320 so he had a little more tools at his disposal 0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.120 and never had to dig himself quite out of this 0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:23.399 kind of hole. But I just think that it's it's 0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:26.600 not again, you're so far beyond what he's gonna have 0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:29.319 to deal with. Even if you want the shiny new toy, 0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:31.920 shine's gonna wear off real quick. I think if you 0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:32.880 put him in this situation. 0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:37.040 Okay, so I have one more rebuttal for you. Yeah, 0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:39.359 because you know that we're we're not gonna move from 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:41.320 our points on this. But I still think it's where talking. 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:42.880 Well, I guess sorry, let me just say one more thing. 0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:44.760 These people are probably hearing this saying, well, he shouldn't 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:48.919 play this season. I still think there's so I think 0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:51.440 there's value in playing this season. I think ideally he 0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:53.280 should for three reasons. 0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:56.000 One his development. Two. 0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:58.600 I guess it's kind of two way to be the 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:01.239 developmental players around him, guys like Jalen Polk, guys like 0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:01.840 Pop Douglas. 0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:03.760 And also for the front office. 0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:06.360 You get to see what he looks like in the 0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:09.000 context of your off offense and you, I mean, you 0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:11.160 get an idea of who he is in college. Now 0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:12.560 you get a better idea, and it's all right, maybe 0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:14.319 we need to focus more on this than we thought her. 0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:16.360 Maybe we don't don't need this kind of player as 0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:18.400 much as we thought, or things like that. In three, 0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:20.319 you'll put him out there to get some plays on 0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:22.440 tapes as a sailing point to free agents. Look at 0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.879 what this kid can do. We're trying to build around him. 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:31.400 But if he's facing this much pressure, can you actually 0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:33.920 accomplish any of those things even if he is on 0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:34.400 the field. 0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:36.880 Yeah, I guess this is just where we and I 0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:39.640 agree with all the point. 0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:41.080 If you just get to a point where he can 0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:43.120 where you can accomplish some of those things, even if 0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:45.440 it's not pretty, then I'm okay putting him in. If 0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:46.800 you can allow if you can get to a point 0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:49.239 where you can start building chemistry with Jalen Polk, where 0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:52.240 he can start, you know, really seeing an NFL defense. 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:53.880 And I don't mean see a second of it and 0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:55.520 then have to run for his life. I actually mean 0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:57.520 get three seconds in the pocket to see it and 0:52:57.560 --> 0:52:58.080 digest it. 0:52:58.239 --> 0:52:58.359 Yea. 0:52:58.440 --> 0:52:59.879 If you if you can get to the point where 0:52:59.880 --> 0:53:01.879 he and throw the ball down the field and put 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:04.360 some things on tape that wide receivers might like to see, 0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:07.120 that's when you put him in the game. I'm just 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:08.560 starting to wonder if they're gonna get to that point 0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:08.879 this year. 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:10.680 Okay, So I agree with a lot of things that 0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:14.360 you said, and you know that I am definitely hard. 0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:17.040 I was gonna say something I don't want to say. 0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:21.400 I'm definitely in the school thought that the development of 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:23.640 the pieces around him isn't just as important. I said 0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:25.720 this all last week, right the development of the pieces 0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:29.239 around him is just as important and right now. And 0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:30.560 I want to get to that in a second. But 0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:34.880 the point of the pressure to me and I understand. 0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:38.160 I agree that it's not going to be good, but. 0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:40.680 I agree with that it's never gonna be good this year. 0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:46.560 I really strongly believe in pressure being as much of 0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.360 a quarterback status in an offensive line stat in a 0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:53.239 lot of ways. And I really strongly believe that he 0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:57.200 won't be pressured as much as Jacob Eber said because 0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.600 of what he's going to bring to the table. Does 0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:03.239 that mean that he's gonna be pressured at a at 0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:06.200 a league average rate at a below app I don't 0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.680 know the exact number. Yeah, I just don't think it's 0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:11.320 going to be forty nine percent. I think it's gonna 0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:14.640 probably be closer to forty percent. How confident are you 0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:17.080 that it's gonna drop enough? Because this is where I 0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:18.080 go back to that other take. 0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:21.080 You can't put him out there thinking it's gonna be better, 0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:24.120 realize it's not better, and then bench them. 0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:28.560 You can't do that, so I hear you. I I 0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:30.880 don't know if you can't do that. Though you can't. No, 0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:33.719 you can't. We just let me let me finish. I 0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:37.240 don't know if you can't do that. If you that's 0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:39.840 the plan, like if you telled him, and this is 0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:43.640 I'll give you a perfect example. Because of Sunday, I 0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:46.279 personally feel like it's ludicrous. He is not playing this 0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:50.040 game on Sunday. Okay, it's a home game against Tyler 0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:55.440 Huntley and a Miami Dolphins team that is quite literally 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:58.279 like revolting against their head coach at this point and 0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:01.640 against their team. They No. Two was not coming back 0:55:01.680 --> 0:55:06.720 anytime soon. They had playoff and maybe even contender aspirations 0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:10.000 this season that they're all watching go by the wayside 0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:13.640 because their quarterback got another concussion. Tyreek Hill, who I 0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:15.680 know is a hothead to begin with, but did you 0:55:15.800 --> 0:55:18.439 see what he was doing on Monday night on the sideline. Yeah, 0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:19.759 he's going up and down the. 0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:23.800 Sideline screaming Mike McDonnel at Mike McDaniel, be a better coach. 0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:27.040 And all this stuff is happening in Miami right now. 0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:30.040 If you went to Drake May and I know this 0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:32.120 is some people are gonna hear this and say, oh, 0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:35.040 it's that's really disrespectful of the Dolphins. Yeah, I don't 0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:37.160 really give a crap. If you go to Drake May 0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:40.520 and you say, this is a nice game for you 0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:43.880 to play in, So we're gonna play you. We're gonna 0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:47.000 start you on Sunday. If it's your thing, and it's 0:55:47.040 --> 0:55:50.160 a disaster with the protection and everything like that, we 0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:53.200 might go back to Jacoby after this, but we still 0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:55.200 want to see what it looks like with you in there. 0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:59.920 You have If you're gonna do that, you gotta come 0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:05.160 with stones, because one, you risk ticking off Drake may 0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:08.000 and does he look at it and say no once 0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:11.799 I'm the starter on the starter, but you risk off off, 0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:15.440 you risk ticking off Jacoby. Maybe Jacoby says, because he 0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:17.520 he gave that quote the other day that he thinks 0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:20.160 it's disrespectful when people say he's just here to take hits. 0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:23.880 That is literally the definition of Jaco telling Jacoby you 0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:26.120 are here to be a crash test dummy. Does he 0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:29.000 gonna you know what, fine, if you don't want me here, 0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:31.359 trade me if you don't want to go sit down 0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:35.840 with Joe Milton him where I would not be surprised 0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:38.080 if you were upset by something like that. And then 0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:43.360 you have us. You are you are really unleashing the dogs. 0:56:43.600 --> 0:56:46.600 You are opening a Pandora's box with the media. Why 0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:48.839 do you bench Drake? Did you not think he was good? 0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:50.799 Do you regret the pick? I don't think you start 0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:53.440 answering that. I don't think it's a great idea either. 0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:56.720 I'm just sicking idea. I don't think it's a terrible 0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:58.280 it's a terrible idea. 0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:01.600 I disagree you, But I would you bet your job 0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:04.240 on that working, because that's what you're doing. 0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:07.279 This spot is too good to pass up. Like they're 0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:10.680 literally playing a team that might actually be work. You're 0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:12.320 favored for the first time. 0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:14.719 So what if you win ten to six and Drake 0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:17.800 May gets his ass kicked? You have to evaluate that 0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:20.959 and you have to be you're gonna win with Drake May. 0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:23.640 I don't realize the kids in danger and go back 0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:25.840 to Jacoba said you have to consider that option. 0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:26.880 We're gonna you do that. 0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:30.600 We're gonna disagree that wild take. That is a care 0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:35.160 wild take. You could you're asking for Could it work 0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:35.880 so here? 0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:36.240 Yes? 0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:39.360 But I think you're asking for a lot of trouble. 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:42.280 Here's my problem, Max, and I don't want to be 0:57:42.320 --> 0:57:45.560 alarmist or like hyper hyper what's the word. I don't 0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:48.360 want to speak, Yeah, hyperbolic? Thank you? I don't, but 0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:51.080 I was in that locker room after the game on Sunday. 0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:54.480 The defense is mad at the defense, the offense is 0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:57.600 mad at the offense. You have young receivers who are 0:57:57.720 --> 0:58:01.640 literally throwing tantrums on film and Pop Douglas and Jalen Polk, 0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:04.280 And good on Pop Douglas for owning that this week 0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:06.240 and walk it, you know, kind of saying that he's 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.040 got to be better and all that kind of stuff. 0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:10.800 But I said this before and I'll say it again. 0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:13.760 You're at the point now, with fifty two other guys 0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:16.680 in that locker room that I'll watch these two quarterbacks 0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:19.600 practice every single day that all know that they drafted 0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:22.600 Drake may third overall. And at what point in time 0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:26.960 does some of these guys say to themselves, why am 0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:29.080 I going out there and getting my butt kicked every 0:58:29.120 --> 0:58:31.919 single Sunday? And Drake can't? Like, why am I going 0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:34.600 out there with a quarterback who can't get me the 0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:37.600 football when we have the Ferrari back in the garage 0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:40.160 that can get me the football. But I'm supposed to, 0:58:40.240 --> 0:58:42.320 I'm Jalen Polk. I'm supposed to go run every single 0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:44.280 route as hard as I can, and I'm supposed to, 0:58:44.520 --> 0:58:46.360 you know, put lay it all out on there for 0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:49.960 the team. What team? Remember the Titans. I thought of 0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:53.280 this the other day, right, like what team? What team? 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:55.600 Then you have to make the switch, That's what I'm 0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:58.640 worried about more than and I think, but then you 0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:01.120 have to make the switch that you don't get to see. 0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:03.760 Okay, don't get bogged down by that. In my opinion 0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:05.720 about Sunday, I just think it's crazy that he's not 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:09.160 playing on Sunday. That's it. I'm just saying to you 0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:16.120 that right now you have players who are visibly inaudibly 0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:19.360 frustrated with what's going on with this team and what's 0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:22.120 going on with this offense and this lack of passing offense. 0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:25.640 And you can say that, who's Jalen Polk and who's 0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:29.040 to Mario Douglass to act this way? But the film's 0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:31.080 the film. When guys are getting open on the film, 0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:32.760 they're not getting the football, they're going to start to 0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:36.400 get annoyed, point blank like that's just the facts. And 0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:39.560 right now they're sitting the best quarterback that they have 0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:42.440 on the roster, and I worry that they're going to 0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:44.959 start to really resent the coaching staff in the front 0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:48.760 office for making this decision. And some guys like I 0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:51.600 think Hunter Henry is a real stand up veteran guy, 0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:53.840 David Andrews, even though he's not going to be playing 0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:56.880 the same thing. Those guys will understand the bigger picture 0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:58.680 and they'll be able to put their own feelings to 0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:01.120 the side. Some of these younger players, some of these 1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:03.200 other veterans, I can't. I don't know if I can 1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:06.240 say the same. For it is Devon Godshaw gonna gonna 1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:09.360 keep sounding off on radio about his teammates being selfish 1:00:09.400 --> 1:00:11.600 and all this kind of stuff. If they keep losing 1:00:11.640 --> 1:00:13.480 like this and they'd. 1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:19.160 Rather Godshaw sound off, then guys be selfish. They are, 1:00:19.280 --> 1:00:21.320 but not so we said this a lot like if 1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:24.760 the locker room, the locker room's gonna dictate in large 1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:26.560 part when you make the change. We talked about that 1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:31.480 and it happened with macken Zappi, and that's true. Is 1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:36.480 changing the quarterback going to do that? If I mean 1:00:37.000 --> 1:00:38.760 we're talking about what maybe two or three plays a 1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:41.600 game that it's would you have Jacobe down for his 1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:45.280 pressures six three sacks, five pressures, so I'm talking about 1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:48.040 five plays a game. Are they frustrated with the quarterback 1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:51.360 situation or are they frustrated like changing the quarterback doesn't 1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:52.320 do anything for the defense. 1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:54.760 I mean, as it does because they're gonna score more points. 1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:58.000 But if guys are still freelancing. Guys are still I 1:00:58.000 --> 1:01:00.000 don't think you're gonna see guys that well Drake Mayson 1:01:00.040 --> 1:01:01.000 out there, so I can't freelan. 1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:03.520 It's like, I don't think but I think that the defense. 1:01:03.640 --> 1:01:06.560 For three years, the defense has been the only thing that. 1:01:06.760 --> 1:01:09.919 Are they going to be able to score that many 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:12.160 more points to be that much more effective with the line. 1:01:12.240 --> 1:01:14.439 I just think the line sets too much of a cap. 1:01:14.560 --> 1:01:16.320 And again I'm not saying don't put Drake May in, 1:01:16.600 --> 1:01:19.840 but Drake May is not a be all, end all 1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:21.280 fixed for everything that ails them. 1:01:21.400 --> 1:01:23.160 It's not. But I think that Drake May makes it 1:01:23.200 --> 1:01:25.400 a lot better. I don't know about a lot a 1:01:25.400 --> 1:01:27.920 lot better. And if I'm gonna sit there on Sunday 1:01:27.920 --> 1:01:30.920 and watch Jacob said throw pick sixes, anyways, i'd rather 1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:32.919 watch Drake May throw pick sixes. And I'm not talking 1:01:32.960 --> 1:01:34.160 about to watch it, but I wouldn't. 1:01:34.160 --> 1:01:36.920 But but I almost wouldn't because. 1:01:36.600 --> 1:01:39.040 But all you all you people that want to sit 1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:43.080 him forever. Yeah, all all you people think that, like 1:01:43.120 --> 1:01:46.000 it's just that him sitting is gonna mean when he 1:01:46.040 --> 1:01:47.960 comes in eventually that he's going to be this perfect 1:01:48.040 --> 1:01:50.320 quarterback at that point, like he's still gonna have to 1:01:50.400 --> 1:01:52.560 learn on the fly. Then did Jordan Love just come 1:01:52.600 --> 1:01:57.120 in more support around you think as he learned? You think? 1:01:57.400 --> 1:01:59.560 I think so did George. Well, we talked about this 1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:01.560 when we were talking about the packaway in the offseason. 1:02:01.680 --> 1:02:03.760 Jordan Love didn't take off until the second half of 1:02:03.840 --> 1:02:06.320 last year. His first half of last year, he had. 1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:09.600 Issues, but he had more support around him. If the 1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:12.280 rest of the roster wasn't as good, do those issues 1:02:12.320 --> 1:02:15.720 maybe get exacerbated and pile up and turn into bad 1:02:15.760 --> 1:02:17.720 habits and turn into things you can't Okay. 1:02:17.560 --> 1:02:20.280 So when can we We'll sit him till twenty twenty? 1:02:20.320 --> 1:02:22.880 All right? How about this? All right? We can make 1:02:22.960 --> 1:02:26.480 sure that a guy perfect situation before we put him 1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:26.760 in there. 1:02:26.800 --> 1:02:29.760 Can we have a guy in an offense that is 1:02:29.840 --> 1:02:32.960 predicated and involves the center doing a lot of the 1:02:33.000 --> 1:02:35.760 pre snap work. Can we have a guy who is 1:02:35.800 --> 1:02:39.560 not starting his first ever game in the NFL at 1:02:39.680 --> 1:02:43.600 center that Drake May makes his first start. I don't 1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:46.120 think that's an unfair ass Can we have a guy 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:49.800 at left tackle who was with the team in camp? Okay, 1:02:50.040 --> 1:02:53.240 if you if you do feel like very baseline ass Okay, 1:02:53.280 --> 1:02:55.800 but if you do these things, yeah, and you continue 1:02:55.840 --> 1:02:58.400 to play like this and they're one in six, they're 1:02:58.440 --> 1:03:00.840 one and seven, they're one in eight, and they keep 1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:03.680 on losing, not just losing, but getting blown out of 1:03:03.720 --> 1:03:08.040 these games, not competitive football games. I just don't know 1:03:08.080 --> 1:03:10.520 how you keep going back into that form and having 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:13.440 all these guys shouldn't look at you and say to 1:03:14.160 --> 1:03:17.320 the young receivers, you say to the defense, you say 1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:19.800 to even the veteran guys like even Hunter Henry and 1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:23.640 Austin Hooper and Ramandre Stevenson and Antonio Gibson who signed 1:03:23.640 --> 1:03:25.760 a contract here to come here as a free agent. 1:03:26.160 --> 1:03:28.400 We're not gonna play the best guy. We're not gonna 1:03:28.400 --> 1:03:31.040 We're gonna keep losing. We're gonna keep getting our butts kicked. 1:03:31.080 --> 1:03:34.120 We're gonna keep losing by multiple touchdowns. We're not gonna 1:03:34.160 --> 1:03:37.640 be competitive, and we're gonna keep doing this because we can't. 1:03:37.720 --> 1:03:40.280 We have to protect Drake. Look, you're the one of 1:03:40.320 --> 1:03:42.960 the offseason that was lauding the pack away and and 1:03:43.520 --> 1:03:46.000 you know patience, And when. 1:03:45.800 --> 1:03:47.880 Did I lad that I've been wanting to Drake mad 1:03:47.920 --> 1:03:49.560 to start since I was. 1:03:49.560 --> 1:03:51.280 Before they had Drake may I was the one saying, 1:03:51.280 --> 1:03:53.240 can they at least sign a couple guys in frequency 1:03:53.320 --> 1:03:55.400 so they have a base level. Look, I'm coming back 1:03:55.400 --> 1:03:57.120 to you on this. I said last week. When you 1:03:57.120 --> 1:04:02.360 have an offensive line of Venerian Lowe City so David Andrews, 1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:05.320 Mike and Wnhu, Kaden Wallace, that's when. 1:04:05.160 --> 1:04:06.280 Because that's your best five. 1:04:06.960 --> 1:04:10.240 Two of those guys are out long term. Now at 1:04:10.240 --> 1:04:12.920 this point, since I said that, I'm willing to go 1:04:13.000 --> 1:04:20.320 to Vederian Lowe, Michael Jordan, Nick Leverett. 1:04:19.400 --> 1:04:20.480 I don't, I don't even know. 1:04:20.560 --> 1:04:22.880 Just get can we start the same line for two 1:04:22.920 --> 1:04:25.439 weeks in a row before Drake May takes over. 1:04:25.760 --> 1:04:29.240 That's I imagine then to go out there in the 1:04:29.240 --> 1:04:32.480 first game that you're covered at home, or that you're 1:04:32.480 --> 1:04:35.880 favored at home against a third string quarterback, and we're 1:04:35.880 --> 1:04:38.880 gonna we're not gonna take this opportunity to play Tyler Huntley. 1:04:39.200 --> 1:04:41.920 Drake May is not facing Tyler. Understand the point. The 1:04:41.960 --> 1:04:44.160 point is is that they should be able to win 1:04:44.200 --> 1:04:45.120 this football game, right. 1:04:45.080 --> 1:04:48.000 But I think the opponent is irrelevant and I would 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:50.760 rather Drake May. I think it's better for them that 1:04:50.880 --> 1:04:53.720 Drake May looks good in a loss than plays Portland 1:04:53.720 --> 1:04:55.160 get the crap beat out of him and a win. 1:04:55.520 --> 1:04:57.640 I just we're never gonna agree on this, So I'm 1:04:57.680 --> 1:05:01.480 just gonna move on because I just, I, for the 1:05:01.520 --> 1:05:03.960 life of me, I understand that you're not one of 1:05:04.000 --> 1:05:06.920 these people that wants to sit him forever. I get that. 1:05:07.080 --> 1:05:10.760 I literally keep lowering the standards, but it's just has 1:05:10.800 --> 1:05:12.120 to be some standard, No. 1:05:12.840 --> 1:05:16.200 I hear you. I just I really start to get 1:05:16.560 --> 1:05:18.760 I was already concerned about it last week. Yeah, and 1:05:18.880 --> 1:05:21.360 just for the I'm not doing a victory lap. I 1:05:21.400 --> 1:05:23.880 already saw some of the stuff that what Jacob were 1:05:23.920 --> 1:05:26.440 said on film against the Jets, and I came in 1:05:26.480 --> 1:05:29.000 here and I said against the Jets that he's stunk. 1:05:29.280 --> 1:05:31.960 And then last week and now all of a sudden 1:05:32.120 --> 1:05:34.480 he plays bad against the forty nine ers, and I'll 1:05:34.680 --> 1:05:37.240 thank you. Welcome to the party. He's been here for 1:05:37.320 --> 1:05:37.920 three weeks. 1:05:38.040 --> 1:05:39.920 And I don't disagree with you. I just and I've 1:05:39.960 --> 1:05:45.560 said this since April. Jacoby Brissette's level of play should 1:05:45.600 --> 1:05:47.520 be independent from Drake May's. 1:05:47.520 --> 1:05:49.640 T Tell that to Jalen Pulkin Pop Douglas. 1:05:50.320 --> 1:05:51.880 If you're a good coach, you figure out a way 1:05:51.920 --> 1:05:54.880 to sell it this old player's coach, right, you gotta find. 1:05:54.760 --> 1:05:59.240 Way what happens. In my opinion, Uh, it's very easy 1:05:59.240 --> 1:06:01.480 for Elliott Wolf to look at it this way. Yeah, 1:06:01.480 --> 1:06:03.919 and he's probably right like you guys are probably right 1:06:04.160 --> 1:06:06.760 to be patient, and Elliot Wolf is probably looking at 1:06:06.840 --> 1:06:10.000 it this way. It's very different on the head coach 1:06:10.080 --> 1:06:12.160 level down because those are the guys that are in 1:06:12.200 --> 1:06:14.360 the trenches day in and day out of the season 1:06:14.640 --> 1:06:17.040 and they have to tell these guys, hey, we're gonna 1:06:17.040 --> 1:06:19.080 get on a fight to London in a couple of 1:06:19.080 --> 1:06:22.240 weeks to play the Jaguars. We're one in seven. We 1:06:22.280 --> 1:06:24.240 have our best, you know, not our best quarterback is 1:06:24.280 --> 1:06:26.560 going to play in this game where we might lose 1:06:26.600 --> 1:06:29.600 to a stinky Jaguars team, and then we're gonna come back. 1:06:30.160 --> 1:06:31.960 This is why I if I was Elliot Wolf, I 1:06:32.000 --> 1:06:33.440 would have done more in the offseason. 1:06:33.480 --> 1:06:36.240 Two. It's very easy to prepare for this from the 1:06:36.280 --> 1:06:39.760 perch in the GM chair to look down and say packerway, 1:06:39.920 --> 1:06:43.320 be patient. You know he's not ready, YadA, YadA, YadA. 1:06:43.440 --> 1:06:45.280 When the team and the fifty three guys on the 1:06:45.320 --> 1:06:47.200 in the locker room are getting there. But but again. 1:06:47.240 --> 1:06:48.720 This is where I go back to. I would have 1:06:48.800 --> 1:06:51.880 signed an actual left tackle. I would have added more 1:06:51.920 --> 1:06:55.080 depth on the offense. We can't fair enough, but you 1:06:55.080 --> 1:06:57.760 know what we need. I guess my point is, sorry, 1:06:57.800 --> 1:06:59.880 this is the bed you made, you lay in it. 1:07:00.080 --> 1:07:01.920 Your plan was to be patient, and this was the 1:07:01.960 --> 1:07:04.240 offense you brought to a plan to be patient, you 1:07:04.280 --> 1:07:06.520 don't get to you don't get to change course. Now 1:07:06.560 --> 1:07:07.200 stick to your plan. 1:07:07.320 --> 1:07:08.040 Do you know what we need? 1:07:08.960 --> 1:07:09.080 Light? 1:07:09.160 --> 1:07:11.040 We need a bud Light because it's easy to drink, 1:07:11.080 --> 1:07:13.960 it's easy to enjoy. Bud Light, the official beer sponsor 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:15.960 of the New England Patriots. Let's take some of these 1:07:16.000 --> 1:07:17.520 phone calls and then we'll get back to three up, 1:07:17.520 --> 1:07:20.000 three down, because we just went on for longer than plans. 1:07:20.040 --> 1:07:23.760 So your quote got picked up on Twitter. By the way, 1:07:23.800 --> 1:07:24.919 good about the locker room? 1:07:25.800 --> 1:07:29.440 Oh not great? Okay, I'll deal with you know, I'll 1:07:29.480 --> 1:07:36.240 deal with that later. Dylan is in Florida. What's up, Dylan? Dylan? Sorry, 1:07:36.280 --> 1:07:38.440 I left John hold for a while. Call back in, 1:07:38.520 --> 1:07:41.440 Dylan and we'll get you on. I'm assuming Patty is 1:07:41.440 --> 1:07:43.640 still here. What's up, Patty? I know Patty's still here. 1:07:45.040 --> 1:07:49.680 Do we speak to Patty. Patty, oh morel that one hurts. 1:07:50.000 --> 1:07:52.760 That one hurts, all right, He'll probably call back in 1:07:52.840 --> 1:07:55.920 Let's try one last time, Sean and Vancouver. What's up, Sean. 1:07:57.360 --> 1:07:59.280 Otob you? 1:08:00.040 --> 1:08:01.640 Oh goodness, thank you. 1:08:02.360 --> 1:08:02.800 Hey, Evan. 1:08:02.800 --> 1:08:05.080 I'm sorry I missed you in San Francisco. Buto, what 1:08:05.200 --> 1:08:10.000 a beautiful weekend despite the loss. Next time, maybe in Miami. 1:08:10.040 --> 1:08:12.720 I'll be down for that game at the end next month, 1:08:12.720 --> 1:08:15.480 so I hope to see you then go onto a 1:08:15.560 --> 1:08:18.120 business in hand. It's been four months. This is the 1:08:18.160 --> 1:08:21.920 game that I circled for Drake made to start. So Evan, 1:08:21.960 --> 1:08:24.360 I'm right with you, very disappointed that's not going to happen. 1:08:24.400 --> 1:08:26.720 I was predicting a win. I was just like the 1:08:26.800 --> 1:08:29.160 most confident I've been in a long time that the 1:08:29.200 --> 1:08:33.559 Patriots will win a game. Now, I like someone could 1:08:33.600 --> 1:08:37.120 someone ask the coach, like in a press conference, is 1:08:37.439 --> 1:08:40.519 Drake may not ready? Is that because that's the only 1:08:40.560 --> 1:08:43.400 reason I can see him not playing that they think 1:08:43.439 --> 1:08:44.680 he's not ready and I'm not there. 1:08:44.680 --> 1:08:47.280 I don't know, but otherwise. 1:08:47.040 --> 1:08:50.559 He really should be in there for defense. You know, 1:08:50.680 --> 1:08:53.240 they actually had discipline in that Cincinnati game. In the 1:08:53.240 --> 1:08:56.040 first game they had the discipline, and I know they're 1:08:56.120 --> 1:08:58.360 missing Bentley and that's a big part of it. And 1:08:58.560 --> 1:09:00.479 Dougar was gone, so I don't know who's going to 1:09:00.520 --> 1:09:03.360 have the green dot. But they can have the discipline again. 1:09:03.439 --> 1:09:05.479 They can do it, they can fix it. It's the 1:09:05.520 --> 1:09:08.120 Patriots way, you know, do your job. I don't think 1:09:08.120 --> 1:09:10.800 it's selfish to say that you're trying to do someone 1:09:10.800 --> 1:09:13.120 else's job. Like like if you look at a specific 1:09:13.160 --> 1:09:18.160 play where Peppers leaves Kittleton because he sees d book 1:09:18.600 --> 1:09:20.960 is uncovered and he's trying to fix that. It's not 1:09:21.000 --> 1:09:23.000 that he's like, oh, I want to take the glory. 1:09:23.000 --> 1:09:24.599 He's like, oh shit, looks what's happening. 1:09:24.720 --> 1:09:27.880 Sorry, but Evan does it all the time. 1:09:29.200 --> 1:09:29.719 It happens. 1:09:29.800 --> 1:09:33.120 Yeah, So you just got to just focus on do 1:09:33.280 --> 1:09:36.240 your job and just trust that the other players would 1:09:36.240 --> 1:09:37.920 do their job. And that's the Patriot's way, and that's 1:09:37.960 --> 1:09:40.240 what they have to do moving forward. All right, I'll 1:09:40.320 --> 1:09:41.240 let you guys talk about that. 1:09:41.280 --> 1:09:44.439 Thanks. Thanks Sean. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Like 1:09:44.479 --> 1:09:49.280 this defense has has lost the do your job mentality. 1:09:50.479 --> 1:09:54.360 Now part of me wants to come to the defense 1:09:54.400 --> 1:09:56.320 of some of the guys that are playing out on 1:09:56.360 --> 1:09:59.000 the edge from some of the conversations I've had this 1:09:59.040 --> 1:10:03.200 week with them, because I do think there is an 1:10:03.240 --> 1:10:05.479 element that they're being coached a little bit differently, Like 1:10:05.520 --> 1:10:07.400 I think they're being asked to do things a little 1:10:07.400 --> 1:10:09.200 bit differently than they would in the past now. 1:10:09.040 --> 1:10:10.920 Clearly because they've been doing this and they're still on 1:10:10.960 --> 1:10:12.800 the field. So the coaches don't have a problem no. 1:10:12.800 --> 1:10:16.240 Other no coaches ever telling the somebody to rush and 1:10:16.280 --> 1:10:18.040 let the quarterback out of the pocket. Like that's not 1:10:18.080 --> 1:10:21.400 in a playbook anywhere in football, from high school to 1:10:21.520 --> 1:10:25.320 college to the NFL. No, no scheme is designed to 1:10:25.439 --> 1:10:27.960 invite the quarterback to get out of the pocket, right 1:10:28.000 --> 1:10:30.759 That's not how it works. But at the same time, 1:10:31.720 --> 1:10:33.880 they are, i think, are trying to be more aggressive. 1:10:34.360 --> 1:10:36.280 They're trying to get up the field more and make 1:10:36.320 --> 1:10:39.519 more splash plays in the backfield. They're trying to pressure 1:10:39.520 --> 1:10:43.599 the quarterback a little bit more and not prioritize, contain 1:10:43.760 --> 1:10:45.640 and all that kind of stuff. Mush rush, you know, 1:10:45.720 --> 1:10:48.920 like that Bill used to prioritize, and right now it's 1:10:49.040 --> 1:10:51.920 just that's backfiring a little bit, and it's maybe it's 1:10:52.000 --> 1:10:55.080 just some growing paints like maybe in by week twelve, 1:10:55.120 --> 1:10:57.200 we're not talking about this and it's a lot better, 1:10:57.320 --> 1:11:00.040 you know. I don't know. I would allow for that 1:11:00.080 --> 1:11:02.800 as well, so maybe that's a possibility to all right, 1:11:02.840 --> 1:11:09.960 Patty is back. I knew he would be. What's up, Patty, guys? Hey? 1:11:11.400 --> 1:11:14.880 Sorry, I was working, well, I am working, and I 1:11:15.280 --> 1:11:17.960 hit the and button on my phone on accident. So good, 1:11:18.080 --> 1:11:21.800 nothing you guys did, all right, So, Alex, I'm one 1:11:21.840 --> 1:11:25.720 Patriots fan that I just want to see the kids 1:11:25.720 --> 1:11:29.840 play because I look at my eyeball tests and looking 1:11:29.880 --> 1:11:33.160 at the numbers, they're averaging under one hundred and thirteen 1:11:33.240 --> 1:11:37.960 yards pass in per game. Yeah, and I mean, you're 1:11:38.000 --> 1:11:41.160 not gonna win. And something tells me that may might 1:11:41.200 --> 1:11:42.800 be able to get out of pressure a lot better 1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:45.400 than Jakobe Brissett because he could actually take off and move. 1:11:45.840 --> 1:11:48.000 But I also wanted to throw a couple of things 1:11:48.040 --> 1:11:50.479 that at both of you guys. Evan, I know you 1:11:50.560 --> 1:11:54.920 love Kyle Shanahan, but the worst part about the game 1:11:55.000 --> 1:11:57.599 Sunday was was losing to him. I can't stand him, 1:11:58.200 --> 1:12:00.559 you know, And I hated Mike Shannon and too. He 1:12:00.600 --> 1:12:06.000 looks like a friggin rat, but Alex, I just got 1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:11.960 to say. Georgia versus Alabama eventually lived up to the hype. 1:12:12.640 --> 1:12:15.400 But the game of the weekend probably the game, the 1:12:15.400 --> 1:12:17.880 best college game I've probably seen since the two thousand 1:12:17.920 --> 1:12:21.360 and seven Fiesta Bowl was Miami Virginia Tech. It was 1:12:21.439 --> 1:12:24.200 such a crazy ending that it made me lose my 1:12:24.400 --> 1:12:28.120 It made me jump out of my seat. And like 1:12:28.320 --> 1:12:31.880 any real football fans who are out there, like who 1:12:32.040 --> 1:12:36.200 don't watch college football, you're really missing out because it's 1:12:36.240 --> 1:12:38.720 a great game, it's a great product, and and you're 1:12:38.720 --> 1:12:41.719 gonna be seen. Guys, I've been playing in the league. 1:12:42.000 --> 1:12:44.280 Yeah, no, no, not you, No, I know. 1:12:44.280 --> 1:12:47.120 That's corrected him. I think I texted you and asked 1:12:47.120 --> 1:12:48.640 if you were watching, You're like, why would I be 1:12:48.640 --> 1:12:49.080 doing that? 1:12:49.160 --> 1:12:50.760 Well, I asked you why I would be doing that 1:12:50.840 --> 1:12:54.120 because I was in San Francis for the first time. 1:12:54.160 --> 1:12:58.080 I was sightseeing. That's fair. No, that they were both 1:12:58.120 --> 1:12:59.800 awesome games, Patty and I. By the way, I think 1:12:59.840 --> 1:13:01.400 the officials got the call right. They should have never 1:13:01.439 --> 1:13:02.679 called it a touchdown on the field. 1:13:03.240 --> 1:13:05.520 But awesome, awesome slate. 1:13:05.240 --> 1:13:07.920 This weekend, this past weekend, great college football. 1:13:08.760 --> 1:13:10.080 Yes, sir, all right, that's all I got. 1:13:10.080 --> 1:13:14.559 Guys, Thanks Patty, thanks for the call. Yeah I did. 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:16.479 Actually we did want to watch that game. Yeah, we 1:13:16.560 --> 1:13:18.200 just didn't get back to it. Fair aunt time. 1:13:18.320 --> 1:13:19.280 Did you see what happened? 1:13:19.280 --> 1:13:22.320 You've seen the replace since as well. Yeah. 1:13:22.360 --> 1:13:25.720 On uh, he says something about Drake Man. I don't 1:13:25.720 --> 1:13:27.920 remember what I Oh, no, it's not really I thought 1:13:27.960 --> 1:13:30.639 he was gonna say something that he didn't. Never mind, Okay, 1:13:30.720 --> 1:13:32.960 all right, can I I'll just say it, because now 1:13:33.000 --> 1:13:34.280 I gave the tease. Can I give you a Drake 1:13:34.320 --> 1:13:36.640 May take that. I think people are gonna hate, but 1:13:36.760 --> 1:13:40.160 I actually I stand by this. Yeah, because everybody's doing 1:13:40.200 --> 1:13:42.880 Drake Ma or Shane Daniels now right. Yeah, let's say 1:13:43.840 --> 1:13:47.400 Commanders took Drake May second and the Patriots took or 1:13:47.439 --> 1:13:50.080 even people, Oh, they shouldn't have won those games last year. 1:13:50.080 --> 1:13:50.439 I don't know what. 1:13:50.560 --> 1:13:52.880 Did you want Bailey's happy to purposely throw picks? Did 1:13:52.880 --> 1:13:55.040 you want Chad Ryland to purposely missed the field goal? 1:13:55.040 --> 1:13:57.160 And so like Chad Ryland did miss the field goal 1:13:57.200 --> 1:13:59.120 against the Giants that got us Drake Man. 1:13:59.240 --> 1:14:01.240 Yeah, so I don't know. I don't understand. I hate 1:14:01.240 --> 1:14:03.759 that they won. How many games they won. Tanking happens 1:14:03.760 --> 1:14:06.680 from the GM up. He can't fault players for that. Yeah, 1:14:06.800 --> 1:14:08.400 it's not a real You can be annoyed, but it's 1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:10.679 not like a realistic take to expect it. But let's 1:14:10.680 --> 1:14:14.000 even say that the Patriots drafted second took Jane Daniels. 1:14:14.040 --> 1:14:15.760 I still think they would have taken Drake May. But 1:14:15.840 --> 1:14:18.519 let's say they took jayde Daniels second, and the Commanders took. 1:14:18.360 --> 1:14:19.360 Drake May third. 1:14:20.160 --> 1:14:24.200 I think right now we would be in the same spot, 1:14:24.400 --> 1:14:27.080 and Drake May would be lighting it up in Washington 1:14:27.400 --> 1:14:29.799 and we would be wondering why they're not playing jayde Daniels. 1:14:29.800 --> 1:14:32.760 I think this is an organization thing. I think it's 1:14:32.760 --> 1:14:35.640 an Elliot Wolf, Alex man Pelt Packer Way thing, not 1:14:35.720 --> 1:14:37.320 a Drake May thing. That's not to say Drake May 1:14:37.360 --> 1:14:40.640 will be good, but if he was in Washington, he 1:14:40.640 --> 1:14:44.439 would have Cliff Kingsbury. He would have an offensive line, which, 1:14:44.439 --> 1:14:46.559 by the way, I think everybody's well, the Washington line's 1:14:46.560 --> 1:14:48.160 bad to I think they're ranked like eleventh this year. 1:14:48.439 --> 1:14:50.000 They've gotten better. They've gotten better. 1:14:50.400 --> 1:14:52.560 He would wear ranked poorly coming into the Okay, he 1:14:52.560 --> 1:14:57.599 would have Terry McLaurin. Yes, like Jerry Rice, Terry mclaurin's 1:14:57.640 --> 1:15:00.360 a good player, come on, good right, he's better than anybody. 1:15:00.439 --> 1:15:02.800 I heard. It is Jerry Rice who said that. Just 1:15:02.880 --> 1:15:04.920 it just seems like we're like, Terry mccorin is a 1:15:04.960 --> 1:15:07.799 really good player. Yeah, but is he the like if 1:15:07.800 --> 1:15:10.400 this Patriots team had Terry McLaurin, you'd feel comfortable with 1:15:10.479 --> 1:15:11.440 Drake May playing. 1:15:11.960 --> 1:15:14.760 More, not outright, but more. But but it's not even 1:15:14.800 --> 1:15:17.240 about comfort. It's about no, but this is my point. Yeah, 1:15:17.240 --> 1:15:23.280 it's about it's about the production, not so much like 1:15:23.280 --> 1:15:25.400 like the process of putting him in. Well, if they 1:15:25.479 --> 1:15:27.200 had just you know, if they just lost the game 1:15:27.240 --> 1:15:29.240 and draft j Daniels or if they're just trying to 1:15:29.280 --> 1:15:31.439 trade up, I think Jane Daniels would be sitting here. 1:15:31.479 --> 1:15:34.559 I think this is a a front office philosophy thing, 1:15:35.080 --> 1:15:37.080 not a Drake May versus jayde. 1:15:36.840 --> 1:15:37.479 And Daniels thing. 1:15:37.520 --> 1:15:40.960 It's a it's a uh, why am I blanking on 1:15:41.000 --> 1:15:41.439 the head coach? 1:15:41.479 --> 1:15:43.679 There a twenty eighty three guy dan Quinn. 1:15:43.760 --> 1:15:50.080 It's a dan Quinn, Cliff Kingsbury, Adam Peters, Peters thing 1:15:50.520 --> 1:15:54.200 versus Elliott wolf Drawdo, Alex Van Pelt. I think the quarterbacks, 1:15:54.439 --> 1:15:56.759 if you switch them, both teams would still be approaching 1:15:56.760 --> 1:15:57.479 it the same way. 1:15:57.520 --> 1:15:59.360 So really quickly. Then I do want to move on 1:15:59.479 --> 1:16:03.080 some other stuff. But what what makes me a little 1:16:03.120 --> 1:16:05.960 bit irked about the Washington situation is not you know 1:16:06.120 --> 1:16:07.200 that I'm cool with Drake. 1:16:07.040 --> 1:16:08.160 May he wanted Cliff Kingsbury. 1:16:08.479 --> 1:16:10.439 They not only could, but Adam Peters would have been 1:16:12.280 --> 1:16:15.840 so they could have had defensive minded head coach Girodd Mayo, 1:16:16.720 --> 1:16:20.360 Adam Peters Cliff Kingsbury and they could have basically had 1:16:20.400 --> 1:16:20.920 the same set. 1:16:21.520 --> 1:16:23.920 So I'll say this, if they had hired Cliff Kingsbury 1:16:23.960 --> 1:16:27.040 and Adam Peters instead of Elliott Wolf and Alex Van Pelt, Yeah, 1:16:27.479 --> 1:16:29.400 and then you know it all played out the same. 1:16:29.720 --> 1:16:31.680 I think Drake may would be playing right now, ye, 1:16:31.960 --> 1:16:34.920 all other things the same. I'm curious if you agree, 1:16:34.960 --> 1:16:37.960 but like it's not a we can debate. D Do 1:16:38.040 --> 1:16:40.880 you think it's a philosophy it's a philosophical thing. 1:16:41.000 --> 1:16:41.360 I don't. 1:16:42.160 --> 1:16:44.400 Drake may May be there starting right now and be 1:16:44.479 --> 1:16:47.120 having a ton of success, and Jane Daniels would be 1:16:47.120 --> 1:16:48.760 here on the bench and we'd be sitting here saying 1:16:48.760 --> 1:16:51.080 why aren't they playing Jayde Daniels. I'd probably be digging 1:16:51.160 --> 1:16:53.240 in harder honestly for them not to play him, because 1:16:53.600 --> 1:16:56.120 durability was one of his major questions coming out. But 1:16:56.560 --> 1:17:00.160 I just I had that thought this week that it's not, 1:17:00.360 --> 1:17:02.280 oh well, they couldn't get Drake May ready and washing 1:17:02.280 --> 1:17:03.439 and got Jane Daniels ready. 1:17:03.439 --> 1:17:05.760 It's not an ability to do it. It's a willingness 1:17:05.800 --> 1:17:08.240 to do it well. And I I know last week, 1:17:08.280 --> 1:17:10.760 I I probably contradict myself a little bit with this, 1:17:10.880 --> 1:17:13.920 but it does. It's worth noting that Jade and Daniels 1:17:13.960 --> 1:17:15.880 made like sixty career starts in college. 1:17:15.920 --> 1:17:17.960 Yeah, Jane Daniels also more experienced, he was more. 1:17:17.880 --> 1:17:22.000 Pro ready, like he obviously totally different athletes, totally different ability, 1:17:22.080 --> 1:17:25.880 but like he was more Mac jonesy in that sense, 1:17:26.000 --> 1:17:28.960 right where like he was known coming into the draft 1:17:29.320 --> 1:17:31.800 like this guy can play for you right away, right 1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:34.519 like that that that's a big difference between Drake may 1:17:34.560 --> 1:17:36.640 And and Jade and Daniels. All right, let's do three up, 1:17:36.680 --> 1:17:39.240 three down. Then we'll talk some Miami Dolphins. And I'm 1:17:39.280 --> 1:17:42.120 telling you we've got we got the people fired up 1:17:42.160 --> 1:17:44.519 with the Drake May conversation, and I do find it 1:17:44.640 --> 1:17:46.760 kind of depressing that that's the only thing people want 1:17:46.800 --> 1:17:50.080 to hear us write or talk about. But I digress. 1:17:50.520 --> 1:17:53.000 Let's do three up. I'm right in the I'm doing 1:17:53.040 --> 1:17:57.160 a h kelvin banks sports dot Com. There's a question 1:17:57.240 --> 1:17:58.640 here for with that, so I'll let you get to 1:17:58.680 --> 1:18:01.479 that in a second. I did it two up, four down. 1:18:01.960 --> 1:18:04.920 I've just decided until they actually play a one score game, 1:18:05.080 --> 1:18:06.479 it's gonna be two up, four down. 1:18:07.120 --> 1:18:10.000 I actually managed to forget if I did three year. 1:18:10.400 --> 1:18:12.840 We talked about this last night, and I actually did 1:18:12.920 --> 1:18:15.479 three seconds of show prep. But when we're texting about it, 1:18:15.720 --> 1:18:18.960 all right, so work for the show. I'll just start 1:18:19.400 --> 1:18:21.920 we don't. This is off the cuff. It's the best part. 1:18:22.520 --> 1:18:26.160 Number one Jabriel Peppers, Number one up to May Jabriel Peppers. 1:18:26.760 --> 1:18:28.960 Uh comes out of the gate with that big stick 1:18:29.000 --> 1:18:32.360 on Deebo Samuel. He came to play. He came with authority. 1:18:32.880 --> 1:18:33.000 Uh. 1:18:33.240 --> 1:18:38.640 The interception was phenomenal. Like I'm not even exaggerating, Like 1:18:38.760 --> 1:18:42.759 that's like an Ed Reid esque interception. He has George 1:18:42.840 --> 1:18:45.639 Kittle in coverage on the play. In the lower part 1:18:45.720 --> 1:18:49.040 of the of the coverage, he sees brock Perdy progress 1:18:49.200 --> 1:18:52.080 off of George Kittle and onto the deep over and 1:18:52.200 --> 1:18:55.439 he drops off of his assignment and freelance is essentially 1:18:55.479 --> 1:18:58.000 in a good way this time and drops underneath the 1:18:58.120 --> 1:19:00.479 route and goes in high points the ball and picks 1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:04.600 it off adjustment. Yeah, that's an Ed Reid type of 1:19:04.680 --> 1:19:10.880 interception player. Unreal pass breakup. Earlier on in the game, 1:19:11.439 --> 1:19:13.559 the second to last play of the game, he's still 1:19:13.600 --> 1:19:16.000 playing through the whistle. He hustles all the way down 1:19:16.080 --> 1:19:18.080 the field, thirty yards down the field and makes the 1:19:18.160 --> 1:19:20.479 tackle on the running back with like two minutes to 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:23.000 go in a blowout game. That's the type of guy. 1:19:23.280 --> 1:19:25.200 And I he had told I think it was Dacota 1:19:25.280 --> 1:19:27.680 Randall interviewed him in the locker room today. He told 1:19:27.720 --> 1:19:30.400 Dakota that Gerrod Mayo put that play up on the 1:19:30.439 --> 1:19:32.320 board and said, this is what we need more of. 1:19:32.560 --> 1:19:34.600 This is what we need to be about. He is 1:19:34.680 --> 1:19:37.160 what the Patriots need to be about. Jabreal peppers. 1:19:37.240 --> 1:19:39.040 I've been saying he he he might be one of 1:19:39.040 --> 1:19:41.479 the most underrated players in the league. Do you remember 1:19:41.560 --> 1:19:43.880 my kind of ridiculous take when they signed him, No, 1:19:44.080 --> 1:19:45.840 that if they were going to build a core from here. 1:19:46.240 --> 1:19:47.839 He could be this team's Rodney Harrison. 1:19:48.000 --> 1:19:50.439 Yeah, he's. He's I don't know if he's as good 1:19:50.479 --> 1:19:53.559 as Rodney was. Maybe we're nostalgic to Rodney. I mean, 1:19:54.040 --> 1:19:57.719 like just overall impact. Yeah, he's. He's fantast hone setter, 1:19:58.160 --> 1:20:00.400 you know, leader from the front, things like that. Yeah, 1:20:00.680 --> 1:20:03.040 he was really good. Okay, what do you got, jaln Polk. 1:20:03.400 --> 1:20:07.000 Yeah, it's it's tough because he's not he's not getting 1:20:07.000 --> 1:20:09.280 the ball, getting the ball. But I wonder why when 1:20:09.320 --> 1:20:11.120 you watch what he oh yeah, and when Drake may 1:20:11.240 --> 1:20:13.559 is on his back in two point one seconds because 1:20:13.560 --> 1:20:16.000 of the pass rush, a whole lot of difference. 1:20:16.040 --> 1:20:18.800 That's maybe Bob. At the time he gets hit, you 1:20:18.920 --> 1:20:20.080 can't by. 1:20:20.000 --> 1:20:22.000 The time it actually takes the snap to get back 1:20:22.439 --> 1:20:24.000 you take. I don't know if you remember this from 1:20:24.000 --> 1:20:25.559 the summer. One of the problems nick LeVert he didn't 1:20:25.560 --> 1:20:26.519 snap the ball fast. 1:20:26.720 --> 1:20:27.479 Oh my goodness. 1:20:27.640 --> 1:20:31.000 So by the time the ball gets back to take 1:20:31.280 --> 1:20:34.000 he got opened a few times. I think, because this 1:20:34.160 --> 1:20:36.360 year is is much about development as it his results. 1:20:37.280 --> 1:20:41.360 The deep ball that was ruled in complete realistically off 1:20:41.439 --> 1:20:43.840 the hand that should be an interception the fact that 1:20:43.960 --> 1:20:46.160 he just got to that ball to not allow the 1:20:46.240 --> 1:20:48.719 defender to make a play on it. Forget that close, 1:20:49.200 --> 1:20:51.320 getting that close to making it making it a catch 1:20:52.680 --> 1:20:55.880 was impressive, and he made a couple other contested catches too. 1:20:56.240 --> 1:20:57.720 I just I think you have to be encouraged not 1:20:57.840 --> 1:20:59.760 just in this game, but overall what you've seen from him. 1:20:59.760 --> 1:21:02.479 So he looks like a guy that belongs. And to 1:21:02.560 --> 1:21:04.559 what extent we'll find out at that point you're gonna 1:21:04.560 --> 1:21:06.360 see have to see Hi getting targeted more and getting 1:21:06.360 --> 1:21:08.599 the ball more. But he certainly looks like a guy 1:21:08.680 --> 1:21:10.400 that belongs. He certainly looks like a guy that can 1:21:10.479 --> 1:21:10.880 make play. 1:21:11.439 --> 1:21:13.679 So I'm swear I'm not doing this with Jalen Pulk 1:21:14.080 --> 1:21:16.320 to make my point about Drake May, but it's gonna 1:21:16.360 --> 1:21:18.240 kind of do that too. So he's the type of 1:21:18.320 --> 1:21:22.479 guy that you need to throw the ball to him. 1:21:22.960 --> 1:21:26.280 You can't lead him into throws because he doesn't have 1:21:26.400 --> 1:21:29.320 that kind of vertical speed. He doesn't have that second 1:21:29.360 --> 1:21:32.120 gear to run underneath and over the shoulder or something like. 1:21:32.160 --> 1:21:34.519 He's not Tyreek Hill, right, You're not gonna throw it 1:21:34.880 --> 1:21:37.759 to a spot fifty yards down the field and expect 1:21:37.840 --> 1:21:40.320 Jalen Polk to run and down. What you need to 1:21:40.360 --> 1:21:42.360 do with him is you need to throw it at 1:21:42.479 --> 1:21:45.679 to a spot like on his body right, like back shoulder, 1:21:46.040 --> 1:21:48.439 throw it over the defender's head. If it's you know, 1:21:48.600 --> 1:21:50.679 the defender has his back to the quarterback, just throw 1:21:50.720 --> 1:21:52.760 it up to him. You know, he has great hands, 1:21:52.800 --> 1:21:55.600 he's got great body control on the boundary. He is 1:21:55.680 --> 1:21:58.679 somebody that you need to throw open as the quarterback. 1:21:58.760 --> 1:22:00.960 And I think one of this that they have right 1:22:01.040 --> 1:22:05.519 now is that perseet in my opinion, mainly because he 1:22:05.560 --> 1:22:08.040 doesn't want to turn it over, but also just because 1:22:08.080 --> 1:22:11.000 this isn't really his game. He's not somebody that throws 1:22:11.080 --> 1:22:14.120 receivers open very often. Jalen Polk is a throw it 1:22:14.240 --> 1:22:17.400 open type of receiver. He is not going to create 1:22:18.160 --> 1:22:20.960 three yards of separation, right He's not going to just 1:22:21.120 --> 1:22:24.200 run by somebody or juke somebody out of his shoes. 1:22:24.680 --> 1:22:27.560 But he's got really sudden moves at the top of 1:22:27.640 --> 1:22:30.160 a route, and he's got really good body control in hands. 1:22:30.400 --> 1:22:32.360 So when he gets to with a quarterback, when he 1:22:32.439 --> 1:22:34.479 starts working with a quarterback that's willing to put the 1:22:34.520 --> 1:22:37.360 ball on him like that back shoulder throw, was when 1:22:37.560 --> 1:22:40.880 Jacoby more consistently than I think his stats will come 1:22:40.920 --> 1:22:42.880 and he'll start to show some more flashes. Right now, 1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:45.200 he's just not working with a quarterback that does that 1:22:45.360 --> 1:22:48.679 sort of thing. My number two up was Devon Godshaw. 1:22:49.200 --> 1:22:51.000 I know the run defense had some of its issues 1:22:51.040 --> 1:22:52.920 on the edge, but in the middle of the defense, 1:22:52.960 --> 1:22:54.640 I thought he was really good in this game. I 1:22:54.680 --> 1:22:58.519 had him down with three running three run stuffs in 1:22:58.640 --> 1:23:01.720 this one, and I just thought that he did his job. 1:23:01.840 --> 1:23:04.160 And I think that's where some of the frustration. I'm 1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:06.800 sure it comes from on the radio on Monday, where 1:23:06.840 --> 1:23:09.640 it's like, well, they weren't running it up the middle, right, 1:23:10.080 --> 1:23:13.200 It wasn't It wasn't my fault. So he played pretty 1:23:13.240 --> 1:23:15.639 well in this game, and he did a nice job. 1:23:15.880 --> 1:23:16.519 Who else do you have? 1:23:16.920 --> 1:23:18.840 So I have a couple more that I knew you 1:23:18.880 --> 1:23:22.360 wouldn't cover. Yep, Christian Ellis, that's fair. 1:23:22.760 --> 1:23:24.599 Was so good yea. 1:23:24.800 --> 1:23:27.200 In this game he was made a couple of big 1:23:27.240 --> 1:23:29.479 tackles on special teams, not just the one reforced and 1:23:29.680 --> 1:23:32.519 recovered the fumble, by the way, that's a high level play. Yeah, 1:23:32.600 --> 1:23:34.280 there's a punt late in the game when the Patriot 1:23:34.320 --> 1:23:36.160 I mean, they weren't in it, but they're still in 1:23:36.280 --> 1:23:39.479 theory in it. And the last two weeks I've had 1:23:39.520 --> 1:23:41.920 special teams punt coverages it down because they've allowed these 1:23:41.920 --> 1:23:45.559 big returns. They actually get beat initially, and Christian Ellis 1:23:46.080 --> 1:23:48.400 from behind is able to track down the returner and 1:23:48.439 --> 1:23:51.520 bring him down inside the twenty. That kind of athleticism, 1:23:51.680 --> 1:23:53.559 that kind of ability to tackle in the open field, 1:23:55.120 --> 1:23:57.000 I'm kind of ready to say, let's maybe see some 1:23:57.040 --> 1:23:58.280 of Christian Ellis on defense. 1:23:58.400 --> 1:24:00.639 I'm ready to I wrote it in after further review, 1:24:00.680 --> 1:24:04.679 I Taki might put a wrench in that, Yeah, because 1:24:04.680 --> 1:24:08.719 they're similar players. But Ellis in like the third down 1:24:09.760 --> 1:24:12.880 pass package, like obvious third down role you were talking 1:24:12.880 --> 1:24:17.200 about earlier, like whether he's spying, whether he's playing low hole, 1:24:17.680 --> 1:24:20.280 whether he's covering or running back in the flat. You know, 1:24:20.520 --> 1:24:23.519 just taking I know we're picking on him a lot today, 1:24:23.560 --> 1:24:25.640 but just taking like a Tava or McMillan off the 1:24:25.640 --> 1:24:28.400 field in that situation and putting a more athletic not. 1:24:28.439 --> 1:24:30.479 Even off the field. It allows you to put back 1:24:30.520 --> 1:24:33.280 on the ed and it allows you to play him 1:24:33.280 --> 1:24:34.040 in position. 1:24:33.880 --> 1:24:36.200 Maybe Kean bumps inside. Yeah, exactly. 1:24:36.400 --> 1:24:39.040 So Christian ELL's a really good game on special teams 1:24:39.080 --> 1:24:41.680 and to the point where it's not like, oh, you 1:24:41.800 --> 1:24:44.120 played well on special teams, You've earned your role. 1:24:44.600 --> 1:24:45.080 Something like that. 1:24:46.200 --> 1:24:49.320 His defense snaps Ford, but also the raw skill he 1:24:49.400 --> 1:24:51.080 showed translates well to what they need. 1:24:51.240 --> 1:24:53.080 Ye all right? Do the kickers? 1:24:53.840 --> 1:24:53.960 Uh? 1:24:54.160 --> 1:24:57.600 Well, Joey sly So in instead of franchise record, he 1:24:57.640 --> 1:24:58.320 does not only. 1:24:58.200 --> 1:25:02.200 That, the Pro Football Rep Friends database on this only 1:25:02.280 --> 1:25:03.599 goes back to nineteen ninety four. 1:25:04.479 --> 1:25:08.080 But what I just love how you know that? Well 1:25:08.080 --> 1:25:11.320 because I looked it up. Yeah, he did your drop good. 1:25:11.760 --> 1:25:13.240 He's the only the fourth. 1:25:13.120 --> 1:25:17.479 Kicker since nineteen ninety four to hit a fifty plus 1:25:17.600 --> 1:25:19.600 yard field goal in a sixty plus yard field goal 1:25:19.640 --> 1:25:20.240 in the same game. 1:25:20.880 --> 1:25:23.240 Okay, And I'm trying to find the Brandon Aubrey one 1:25:23.280 --> 1:25:26.800 of them probably No, it's uh, Justin Tucker. Justin Tucker 1:25:26.880 --> 1:25:28.840 was the last one to do it in twenty twenty two. Yeah, 1:25:29.800 --> 1:25:31.519 fifty five and sixty seven. You want to guess the 1:25:31.560 --> 1:25:34.679 other two? One of them is like, he was arguably 1:25:34.680 --> 1:25:35.880 the best kicker in the league for a little bit. 1:25:36.000 --> 1:25:38.880 Sebastian Jenakowski now more recent I feel like he has 1:25:39.080 --> 1:25:41.280 had a huge leg I ei the twenty twelve twenty 1:25:41.400 --> 1:25:47.240 twelve Keskowski, No, because he made the sixty two yard Yeah. 1:25:47.280 --> 1:25:51.320 No, Greg zerline hit from fifteen sixty and then in 1:25:51.400 --> 1:25:55.040 two thousand and three, Martine gramatic Man from sixty and 1:25:55.280 --> 1:25:57.439 he's the only one who hit two sixties. Hit from 1:25:57.479 --> 1:25:59.000 sixty and sixty two. In two thousand and. 1:25:58.960 --> 1:26:03.439 Three, Martin show slide of the list the worst injury 1:26:03.479 --> 1:26:08.960 I've ever seen celebrating. No, No, that's when he got hurt, right. 1:26:09.320 --> 1:26:11.720 That was his brother, Bill Grammatica. 1:26:11.840 --> 1:26:16.000 Martin Grammatica had a long successful year by the way. 1:26:16.600 --> 1:26:20.080 Uh fun fact, the guy who replaced Bill Grammatica after 1:26:20.160 --> 1:26:24.439 that injury, yeah, Tim Duncan. Oh, not that Tim Duncan, 1:26:24.479 --> 1:26:25.920 but there was a kicker named Tim Duncan. 1:26:26.400 --> 1:26:26.519 Uh. 1:26:28.000 --> 1:26:30.240 No, Martin Grammatica is the brother. He was in the 1:26:30.400 --> 1:26:31.720 NFL for like twenty years. 1:26:31.720 --> 1:26:34.360 I thought that Martin Grammatica did that too. No, it 1:26:34.439 --> 1:26:37.360 was Bill. It was his brother Bill. Okay, all right, 1:26:37.520 --> 1:26:39.400 let's uh let's do do you have any more ups? 1:26:39.920 --> 1:26:40.040 Uh? 1:26:40.240 --> 1:26:40.280 No? 1:26:40.439 --> 1:26:41.320 Is it? Who's your number? 1:26:41.360 --> 1:26:41.479 One? 1:26:41.520 --> 1:26:44.639 Down? My I'm glad you. I'm glad you prepared this week. 1:26:44.680 --> 1:26:47.000 But yeah, my number one down was I don't really 1:26:47.000 --> 1:26:48.200 put him in order, just kind of order. 1:26:48.200 --> 1:26:49.280 I hang of him. I numb one down. 1:26:49.360 --> 1:26:51.479 Skobert said it was his worst game of the year, 1:26:51.520 --> 1:26:54.160 and I feel like this this week he got in 1:26:54.280 --> 1:26:57.280 the way of the offense more than any other game. 1:26:57.600 --> 1:26:59.840 Yeah, I had him on the list. I had number one. 1:26:59.840 --> 1:27:02.360 I the defensive coaching staff. We don't have to belabor 1:27:02.400 --> 1:27:04.840 the point I've already been over my Missilloqually on that. 1:27:05.479 --> 1:27:07.560 I just thought they got out coached and did not 1:27:07.680 --> 1:27:10.320 do a very good job of putting players in positions 1:27:10.360 --> 1:27:12.879 to succeed. With that being said, one of those players, 1:27:13.000 --> 1:27:15.800 Jelani Tavai, has to have gone the downs ready for 1:27:15.920 --> 1:27:22.080 this stat His numbers in coverage on Sunday five for 1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:25.439 five for one hundred and twelve yards, and one of 1:27:25.479 --> 1:27:27.640 those was a touchdown that got wiped out by a 1:27:27.760 --> 1:27:30.240 phantom holding call on George Kittle that should have been 1:27:30.240 --> 1:27:32.479 a touchdown. So that goes down as like a twenty 1:27:32.520 --> 1:27:34.639 four yard game that should have been like a forty 1:27:34.720 --> 1:27:36.720 yard gain and a touchdown on top of that. So 1:27:37.160 --> 1:27:41.040 tack on another what sixteen yards and a touchdown onto that, 1:27:41.200 --> 1:27:45.280 So we're five for five for one hundred and twenty 1:27:45.320 --> 1:27:48.400 eight yards in a touchdown. Now, sorry, math is hard. Yeah, 1:27:48.520 --> 1:27:51.519 it was a tech McMillin stat line. It's bad. It 1:27:51.680 --> 1:27:54.360 was not his fault. But when you're out there, you're 1:27:54.360 --> 1:27:57.200 out there. Yeah, and this Moore goes to coaching staff. 1:27:57.240 --> 1:28:00.280 We've talked about he's not an off ball linebackern that 1:28:00.840 --> 1:28:03.640 his first year here. He's an edge player and they 1:28:03.720 --> 1:28:04.559 got to get him back there. 1:28:04.680 --> 1:28:05.960 Okay, who's your next one? 1:28:06.400 --> 1:28:09.160 Romanre Stevenson somehow we haven't talked about yet. 1:28:09.400 --> 1:28:13.120 Yeah. Four fumbles in four games. Yeah, I can't have it. 1:28:13.280 --> 1:28:16.280 You just especially a week after. It is a point 1:28:16.320 --> 1:28:19.720 of emphasis in practice. You know this is coming up. 1:28:20.120 --> 1:28:22.760 He fumbled early in the game, and it's not like 1:28:22.880 --> 1:28:25.519 somebody on the Niners made this unbelievable play to knock 1:28:25.600 --> 1:28:28.559 the ball. Ou see, it's just outside his frame as 1:28:28.600 --> 1:28:30.840 he hits the line of scrimmage. You can't do that. 1:28:31.120 --> 1:28:34.080 So now the coaching staff's in this really tough position 1:28:34.200 --> 1:28:37.240 where he's still one of your two best playmakers on 1:28:37.320 --> 1:28:40.200 offense and the coaching staff doesn't seem particularly interested. 1:28:40.080 --> 1:28:41.400 In involving to Mario Douglas. 1:28:41.800 --> 1:28:45.760 So he's your essentially best playmaker, but as Gerardmeo said 1:28:45.800 --> 1:28:50.120 after the game, they can't afford to turn the ball over. 1:28:50.280 --> 1:28:52.479 Can't be So what he say, you can't be about 1:28:52.920 --> 1:28:56.400 job Security's bass security? Well he said that don't. 1:28:57.720 --> 1:29:00.479 Right, but he also said that, yeah, all right, so 1:29:00.600 --> 1:29:02.519 essentially that but yeah, what are you gonna do? You 1:29:02.600 --> 1:29:04.439 want to be this run heavy offense? He is your 1:29:04.479 --> 1:29:07.519 best playmaker, Yeah, but he continues to fumble the ball 1:29:07.560 --> 1:29:09.280 and at a certain point you can't have that. So 1:29:09.680 --> 1:29:11.760 I'm god, I don't have to make the decision. I know. 1:29:11.960 --> 1:29:14.360 Trod Mayo said this week Antonio Gibson might start, and 1:29:14.400 --> 1:29:17.240 I get that, but like, what's the dis I don't 1:29:17.240 --> 1:29:19.280 care about the starting what's the distribution of rep's gonna be? 1:29:19.320 --> 1:29:21.479 It's it's gonna be like the fantasy football thing. Will 1:29:21.479 --> 1:29:22.920 you give the guy a slap on the wrist by 1:29:22.960 --> 1:29:25.639 starting him in your flex or are they really gonna 1:29:25.680 --> 1:29:26.240 limit his carries? 1:29:26.240 --> 1:29:28.439 And if they limit his carries, what's the ceiling for 1:29:28.479 --> 1:29:31.559 the offense? So you're one hundred percent right on your 1:29:31.840 --> 1:29:34.800 bremonder being on the downs take. I'm glad you did see. 1:29:34.920 --> 1:29:36.519 We know each other well enough that I didn't put 1:29:36.560 --> 1:29:39.519 him because I actually thought would my thing with though 1:29:39.640 --> 1:29:43.560 with it is that I don't think Antonio Gibson's a 1:29:43.680 --> 1:29:46.920 volume back. He's not. So if all of a sudden 1:29:47.200 --> 1:29:50.320 just to for one game, yeah, I suppose. If you 1:29:50.360 --> 1:29:52.040 want to prove a point and you want to bench 1:29:52.080 --> 1:29:55.240 Remandre for one game, and you give Antonio Gibson twenty 1:29:55.360 --> 1:29:57.840 twenty five touches on Sunday, it's not the end of 1:29:57.880 --> 1:30:00.679 the world. But that's not gonna be and Tonio Gibson 1:30:00.720 --> 1:30:01.479 for the rest of the season. 1:30:01.520 --> 1:30:03.280 Well, but what do you do with Stevenson fumbles again, 1:30:03.720 --> 1:30:07.000 It's it's not a good problem. But so what I 1:30:07.040 --> 1:30:10.880 would do, I'd elevate Kevin Harris for this game, okay, 1:30:10.880 --> 1:30:13.160 and I would get and Tomichael Hasty was fine running 1:30:13.160 --> 1:30:14.680 the ball last week actually, and I. 1:30:15.080 --> 1:30:17.479 Just want to it's it's a detriment to Gibson to 1:30:17.560 --> 1:30:19.960 all of a sudden put him in a high volume see, 1:30:19.960 --> 1:30:20.200 and I. 1:30:20.200 --> 1:30:22.439 Think the SAME's about I think the same about Hasty. Yeah, 1:30:22.520 --> 1:30:24.720 that's why I'd elevate Kevin Harris and I would get 1:30:25.000 --> 1:30:27.840 not you still have to play Stevenson some but it's 1:30:28.120 --> 1:30:31.240 this guy's right here, he's gonna play. This guy can 1:30:31.360 --> 1:30:33.639 be a volume back, like I I would have Kevin 1:30:33.680 --> 1:30:35.080 Harris as party game plan this week. 1:30:35.280 --> 1:30:41.240 That's fair enough. Antonio Gibson, I am still finding myself 1:30:41.280 --> 1:30:43.160 and I feel like I've written this every single week 1:30:43.200 --> 1:30:46.160 in my game review. He is one of your most 1:30:46.240 --> 1:30:49.880 explosive players on offense. I know it happened in garbage time, 1:30:49.960 --> 1:30:51.840 but he hits a fifty yarder on a little check 1:30:51.920 --> 1:30:53.679 down coming over the middle of to feel a little 1:30:53.720 --> 1:30:56.720 crosser mesh traffic. You know, they run mesh and then 1:30:56.720 --> 1:30:58.800 they sneak the running back out of the backfield and 1:30:58.840 --> 1:31:01.479 it's a blown coverage and he goes for fifty yards. 1:31:01.760 --> 1:31:03.559 They don't have a whole lot of guys on their 1:31:03.680 --> 1:31:07.960 team that are capable of doing that on offense, like 1:31:08.120 --> 1:31:10.200 taking a five yard pass and turning it into a 1:31:10.240 --> 1:31:13.880 fifty yard game. He is one of them, maybe one 1:31:13.920 --> 1:31:16.679 of the only ones. It's probably like him in Pop Douglas. Honestly, 1:31:17.600 --> 1:31:21.639 I think he needs to be more involved, even separate 1:31:21.720 --> 1:31:24.960 from Rimandre's fumbling problems. And maybe they did it a 1:31:25.000 --> 1:31:27.120 little bit last week. They had a two back set 1:31:27.200 --> 1:31:29.920 with both of them on the field together, little pony action, 1:31:30.360 --> 1:31:33.160 Like maybe that's what it is. I know everybody wants 1:31:33.200 --> 1:31:35.280 to hear like screens and stuff like that. But it's 1:31:35.320 --> 1:31:37.759 not just that, Like can you flex him out wide 1:31:38.040 --> 1:31:40.200 and maybe you get him matched up on a linebacker 1:31:40.240 --> 1:31:42.440 and you hit him on a slant against a linebacker, 1:31:42.560 --> 1:31:45.439 Like maybe he runs a fade against the linebacker and 1:31:45.479 --> 1:31:48.040 you hit him on a go ball against a matchup 1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:50.760 Like he is a matchup for them. They don't have 1:31:50.800 --> 1:31:52.280 a lot of them. They need to find ways to 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:57.160 use him as a matchup player. My last down, I 1:31:57.200 --> 1:32:02.560 can bind both of them. So and Layden Robinson. I 1:32:02.680 --> 1:32:05.759 didn't put Tray Jacobs on the downs because I honestly 1:32:05.840 --> 1:32:07.600 feel like that's a little unfair. Yeah, what do you 1:32:07.600 --> 1:32:12.760 expect to Yeah, but Leyden Robinson in city. So maybe 1:32:12.840 --> 1:32:15.760 not so much with Robinson. I understand it's So's first 1:32:15.840 --> 1:32:19.040 game back from injury, but those are probably gonna be 1:32:19.120 --> 1:32:21.120 two guys that are in the mix on the offensive 1:32:21.160 --> 1:32:24.759 line for you moving forward. They allowed a combined eleven 1:32:24.920 --> 1:32:28.920 quarterback pressures in this game, two sacks. Robinson by himself 1:32:29.000 --> 1:32:32.120 allowed seven quarterback pressures. Yeah. I think we need to 1:32:32.160 --> 1:32:34.920 cool down on Laydon Robinson. Yeah, I mean I've been there. Yeah, 1:32:35.200 --> 1:32:39.640 Malie Collins is a solid NFL player Malie Collins is 1:32:39.720 --> 1:32:42.920 not an elite pass rushing defensive tackle. He looked like 1:32:42.960 --> 1:32:45.760 an elite pass rushing defensive tackle on Sunday, Like he 1:32:45.960 --> 1:32:49.120 looked like a problem. He's not a bad player, but 1:32:49.360 --> 1:32:52.040 just you know, for an example, he's not Quinn Williams right, Like, 1:32:52.479 --> 1:32:55.120 he's not one of those types of guys. And he 1:32:55.600 --> 1:32:58.720 he had his way with Leyden Robinson. So a lot 1:32:58.840 --> 1:33:03.080 of sack and quarterback hit and two more pressures. So combine, 1:33:03.160 --> 1:33:06.240 your two guards were a problem in this game. Obviously 1:33:06.320 --> 1:33:09.720 Trey Jacobs was a problem too, but really all the 1:33:09.800 --> 1:33:12.320 pressure came from those three spots. It was the two guards, 1:33:12.360 --> 1:33:15.120 and it was the left tackle. If that gets mitigated 1:33:15.240 --> 1:33:17.280 to just the left tackle, like, you can work with that, 1:33:17.520 --> 1:33:20.599 like we've talked about this before. If it's just one part, 1:33:21.040 --> 1:33:24.320 one position, you can coach around it. You can slide, 1:33:24.520 --> 1:33:26.759 you can chip, you can get the ball out quickly, 1:33:27.120 --> 1:33:29.240 you can run motion to that side of the field 1:33:29.280 --> 1:33:31.200 and try to stretch out the end like you can 1:33:31.320 --> 1:33:33.679 do stuff to make up for a bad left tackle. 1:33:33.920 --> 1:33:36.120 But if you're giving up pressure in the interior too, 1:33:36.560 --> 1:33:38.560 now you're just plugging a whole a boat with a 1:33:38.560 --> 1:33:40.880 bunch of holes in it and it's impossible. So they 1:33:41.000 --> 1:33:43.200 have to get better guard play and pass protection from 1:33:43.240 --> 1:33:46.240 those two guys. And you gotta hope that City So 1:33:46.479 --> 1:33:47.320 being back just. 1:33:49.040 --> 1:33:51.760 Or playing another game, right, just as kind of more 1:33:51.800 --> 1:33:53.519 into the float of things here and give you something 1:33:53.560 --> 1:33:56.320 else because Layde Robinson, especially in pass pro, like he's 1:33:56.360 --> 1:33:56.880 not there yet. 1:33:57.000 --> 1:33:57.680 He's just not there. 1:33:57.720 --> 1:33:58.920 And I think you have to rely on City So. 1:33:59.120 --> 1:34:01.800 And we saw Michael Jordan participating in practice, which is 1:34:01.800 --> 1:34:03.719 a good sign. He's been their sneaky best guard. 1:34:04.160 --> 1:34:05.519 Yeah, and we'll go from there. 1:34:05.560 --> 1:34:06.720 And I'll say this because I've got a ton of 1:34:06.800 --> 1:34:09.880 questions about Cold Strange. Yeah, you might need Cold Strange 1:34:09.880 --> 1:34:11.519 to come back as a center, not a guard. So 1:34:11.760 --> 1:34:14.080 Cole Strange, I know, Mark Daniels put it out there. 1:34:14.080 --> 1:34:16.960 I think right before we started to record, Cold Strange 1:34:17.040 --> 1:34:20.360 is gonna is on target to play this season. But 1:34:20.560 --> 1:34:23.360 I didn't read marks floor not soon. But that does 1:34:23.479 --> 1:34:25.519 not sound like at anytime soon. Like just saying that 1:34:25.600 --> 1:34:28.400 he's not ruled out for the entire year tells me 1:34:28.560 --> 1:34:33.000 that that is a maybe Thanksgiving target, you know, like 1:34:33.400 --> 1:34:36.880 like late November early. I am not optimistic that Cold 1:34:36.920 --> 1:34:38.080 Strange is coming back anytime. 1:34:38.240 --> 1:34:41.920 So the initial reporting was a couple of months. 1:34:42.120 --> 1:34:46.839 Yeah, so like seven eight weeks he has here, Mark Daniels, 1:34:47.000 --> 1:34:51.320 mass live, Cole Strange contractor return of the Patriots this season, 1:34:52.360 --> 1:34:55.800 although timelines depending on his recovery. Yeah, just says later. 1:34:55.920 --> 1:34:57.080 It just keeps saying later. 1:34:57.000 --> 1:34:59.840 This season, So that to me is at least an 1:35:00.000 --> 1:35:04.439 other month. Yeah. I've talked to Cole a little bit 1:35:04.479 --> 1:35:08.360 in the locker room and the impression that I've gotten 1:35:08.479 --> 1:35:11.320 from him is that he's not really even thinking about 1:35:11.400 --> 1:35:14.160 that right now. Right He's more thinking about getting healthy. 1:35:14.320 --> 1:35:16.800 So he's not clear. 1:35:17.120 --> 1:35:19.840 Daniels has he's not cleared to practice, and obviously that 1:35:20.000 --> 1:35:21.280 means return from pup. 1:35:21.160 --> 1:35:23.800 But I also wonder if that means like not even 1:35:23.840 --> 1:35:25.760 get on a field and start the ramps. Yeah, what 1:35:25.840 --> 1:35:28.599 I thought was interesting from what Kendrick Bourne said today 1:35:28.720 --> 1:35:30.680 to us, and I wanted to end this show. I know, 1:35:30.960 --> 1:35:33.439 we haven't really talked a ton of Dolphins. I'm I 1:35:33.479 --> 1:35:34.800 don't know how much it really matters. 1:35:34.880 --> 1:35:36.280 Well, I do want to talk Kendrick Bourne. 1:35:36.360 --> 1:35:38.560 I want to talk about like five minutes, ten to 1:35:38.680 --> 1:35:39.799 ten minutes about the Dolphins. 1:35:40.360 --> 1:35:41.719 You know, I'm always down to talk Kendrick Bourne. 1:35:42.040 --> 1:35:45.080 So with Bourne, what I thought was interesting is he 1:35:45.240 --> 1:35:48.880 said that he was physically cleared by the start of 1:35:48.920 --> 1:35:52.040 the season, but he almost treated the first four weeks 1:35:52.080 --> 1:35:55.360 as his training camp to get himself in shape to play. 1:35:55.439 --> 1:35:58.120 Published was the word he kept choosing to polish his routes. 1:35:58.280 --> 1:36:01.639 Yeah, yeah, things like that. So I you gotta think 1:36:01.680 --> 1:36:03.360 about the ramp up as much as you have to 1:36:03.400 --> 1:36:05.639 think about the health of the player. So if cold 1:36:05.640 --> 1:36:09.080 Strange is ready to go physically, he gets cleared medically 1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:12.200 by the doctors, let's say by the end of October, 1:36:12.520 --> 1:36:14.760 then he's probably gonna need a couple of weeks to 1:36:14.800 --> 1:36:15.640 get ramped back up. 1:36:15.680 --> 1:36:19.760 And just to be clear, some people may wonder, well, 1:36:19.840 --> 1:36:21.600 isn't that what the three weeks is for when you 1:36:21.680 --> 1:36:24.640 activate the guy. Some teams do it like that and 1:36:24.800 --> 1:36:26.439 just ramp them up over the course of practice. But 1:36:26.479 --> 1:36:29.080 then if you have a setback, you're out of luck. 1:36:29.120 --> 1:36:31.600 He's not coming back. Versus if you just do a 1:36:31.720 --> 1:36:34.720 solo ramp up that's not part of practice, and then 1:36:34.760 --> 1:36:36.479 you do it in essentially two stages, and then he 1:36:36.520 --> 1:36:38.519 comes back to practice and ramps up in that way, 1:36:39.080 --> 1:36:41.360 you just you have more control over the timeline. 1:36:41.560 --> 1:36:44.960 Yeah, so before I see you guys on the phones 1:36:45.000 --> 1:36:46.920 and we'll take your calls here, I promise. But I 1:36:47.000 --> 1:36:49.760 want to talk about some of the other, you know, 1:36:49.920 --> 1:36:52.080 new injury news that's been with the team because it 1:36:52.160 --> 1:36:55.080 is important. So let's start with David Andrews at a 1:36:55.160 --> 1:36:57.720 third now. Oh right, sorry, what was your third? Were 1:36:57.800 --> 1:36:59.160 talked about it, Josh and Jay? 1:36:59.640 --> 1:37:02.240 Okay, just the inability to hold the edge, not just 1:37:02.560 --> 1:37:04.240 not just in the past game in the run game 1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:05.679 is concerning right now. 1:37:05.640 --> 1:37:10.560 Yeah, totally fair. All right, David Andrews. This one's a 1:37:10.600 --> 1:37:13.920 tough one for me because you know, I love David Andrews. 1:37:14.520 --> 1:37:18.599 He's been a really an ally covering this team, working 1:37:18.640 --> 1:37:21.519 for the team. He's been really good to me. I 1:37:21.640 --> 1:37:24.080 have nothing bad to say about David Andrews, the person 1:37:25.240 --> 1:37:29.280 David Andrews. At this point, it feels like his play 1:37:29.360 --> 1:37:32.000 on the field has been compromised by his body starting 1:37:32.040 --> 1:37:34.200 to give out on him a little bit. And I'm 1:37:34.240 --> 1:37:36.720 not saying that, oh, it's not surprising that he's hurt 1:37:36.840 --> 1:37:39.920 long term. I'm just saying that at this stage of 1:37:40.000 --> 1:37:42.840 his career, he's played a lot of football He's always 1:37:42.880 --> 1:37:45.320 been pretty healthy outside of the blood clots issue in 1:37:45.360 --> 1:37:50.880 twenty nineteen. He's played seasons upon seasons deep playoff runs, 1:37:50.960 --> 1:37:53.120 Like how many snaps in the NFL do you think 1:37:53.200 --> 1:37:57.000 David Andrews has played. It's got to be ten thousand, easily, right. 1:37:57.760 --> 1:38:00.519 It just feels like his body has given out on 1:38:00.640 --> 1:38:03.640 him a little bit here towards the end, and his 1:38:03.960 --> 1:38:08.680 past protection in particular starting last year, has dipped a 1:38:08.720 --> 1:38:10.880 little bit, and it was dipping already a little bit 1:38:10.960 --> 1:38:14.000 this year too. We talked about it in the Jets game. 1:38:14.040 --> 1:38:16.639 He might have been playing through an injury, separate injury, 1:38:16.720 --> 1:38:19.960 but playing through injury in that game. So from a 1:38:20.200 --> 1:38:25.599 pure blocking standpoint, just post snap, how does this guy 1:38:25.720 --> 1:38:28.800 perform block for block? I'm not sure, Nick Leverett's that 1:38:28.960 --> 1:38:32.040 much of a drop off at this point. You obviously 1:38:32.160 --> 1:38:35.360 can't replace the person. You can't replace the leader, you 1:38:35.439 --> 1:38:38.680 can't replace the grit, you can't replace the communication that 1:38:38.800 --> 1:38:44.439 he brings to the table. But I'm not quite as 1:38:44.960 --> 1:38:49.400 concerned about David Andrews to Nick Leverett as maybe you 1:38:49.439 --> 1:38:51.400 would think. I don't know how much of a drop 1:38:51.479 --> 1:38:54.160 off physically that is truly going to be with all 1:38:54.240 --> 1:38:56.920 the respect in the world for Andrews and for the player, 1:38:57.240 --> 1:38:59.519 I just I don't when I watched them on film, 1:38:59.560 --> 1:39:02.599 I don't see a major drop off right now from 1:39:02.640 --> 1:39:03.280 those two guys. 1:39:03.960 --> 1:39:07.920 I think maybe not physically, mentally, you're losing a ton. Yes, 1:39:08.280 --> 1:39:11.240 and again, Nick Leverage is not experienced center. Yeah, I 1:39:11.320 --> 1:39:13.000 know he's played a little bit in the NFL, but 1:39:14.240 --> 1:39:16.320 one and this is something we'll watch this week, and 1:39:16.360 --> 1:39:18.880 maybe he's gotten better at I remember watching noticing the 1:39:18.920 --> 1:39:21.560 summer the ball doesn't come back with a ton of 1:39:21.640 --> 1:39:23.080 velocity in the shotgun. 1:39:22.880 --> 1:39:23.759 And that matters. 1:39:24.120 --> 1:39:26.639 Yeah, right, And then on top of that, I actually 1:39:26.680 --> 1:39:28.360 thought he was a decent He's decent for most of 1:39:28.360 --> 1:39:30.080 the summer, but he had a couple of bad snaps 1:39:30.160 --> 1:39:33.919 late there, and those can't come back. I'm not comfortable 1:39:34.000 --> 1:39:35.960 saying that that the drop off is gonna be minimal. 1:39:36.040 --> 1:39:39.000 Maybe it was on Sunday. I think they got lucky. 1:39:39.320 --> 1:39:41.360 I don't think that's something you can count on if 1:39:41.400 --> 1:39:44.080 I were them. I and I know they worked out. 1:39:45.680 --> 1:39:48.000 Not Jesse Davis. I thought they worked out another center, 1:39:48.880 --> 1:39:49.439 at least. 1:39:49.240 --> 1:39:51.600 Sound one of the practice squad car yet, but I 1:39:52.040 --> 1:39:54.400 get another, I get another veteran center in here, and 1:39:54.760 --> 1:39:56.840 I mean Rod Nick Leverty's the starter he's been with 1:39:56.920 --> 1:39:59.800 the team. But we'll see with Brian Hudson. You know, 1:40:00.080 --> 1:40:03.920 Levert's on the injury report too. He can get real ugly, 1:40:04.000 --> 1:40:07.240 real fast at center. I'm not comfortable saying that David 1:40:07.320 --> 1:40:09.920 Andrews is going to be a minimal absence. Is there 1:40:09.960 --> 1:40:10.880 a chance that could happen. 1:40:11.000 --> 1:40:13.360 Yes, I'm not confident. I'm not saying he's going to 1:40:13.360 --> 1:40:15.720 be a minimal absence either. I just don't think it's 1:40:15.800 --> 1:40:19.680 going to be a physical decline. It's more gonna be 1:40:19.880 --> 1:40:22.000 unless you want to count snapping. I guess that's a 1:40:22.000 --> 1:40:22.759 physical app. 1:40:22.600 --> 1:40:25.280 I think that's especially for with an offensive line where 1:40:25.280 --> 1:40:26.920 every tenth of a second matters. 1:40:27.360 --> 1:40:30.559 We'll have to I didn't see his snaps being an 1:40:30.600 --> 1:40:33.080 issue on Sunday, but maybe it was one game that he. 1:40:33.240 --> 1:40:35.559 That's also the kind of thing that like, I don't 1:40:35.560 --> 1:40:37.120 know how much you look at this, and I didn't 1:40:37.120 --> 1:40:39.840 even I looked a little bit. The speed of the snap. 1:40:39.960 --> 1:40:42.160 I thought of it honestly today a practice, Yeah. 1:40:42.000 --> 1:40:44.559 I I if it was egregious, I would have noticed. 1:40:45.120 --> 1:40:47.559 It's not something that I necessarily noticed, which I feel 1:40:47.600 --> 1:40:52.160 like is a good thing, right, right, He there's a possibility. 1:40:52.160 --> 1:40:55.640 I'm just going to allow for the possibility that they 1:40:55.800 --> 1:40:58.360 kind of rammed him up at center starting like mid August, 1:40:58.880 --> 1:41:00.800 but he's had probably two months now. 1:41:00.960 --> 1:41:04.160 But that's what's concerning, is he was better earlier on 1:41:04.280 --> 1:41:05.840 when they start ramping HM up, and then late in 1:41:05.880 --> 1:41:07.000 the summer it became an issue. 1:41:07.200 --> 1:41:09.560 Well, maybe he's gotten better at snapping. Okay, you know, 1:41:09.680 --> 1:41:12.120 like in this timeframe, right, And let's also remember that 1:41:12.240 --> 1:41:15.840 David Andrews has always was kind of being managed. Like 1:41:15.920 --> 1:41:18.840 there's probably a lot of first team reps for Nick 1:41:18.920 --> 1:41:21.360 let a lot of first team Yeah, so maybe he's 1:41:21.400 --> 1:41:24.320 just gotten better at it. Like it's not no offense, 1:41:24.400 --> 1:41:26.920 but it's not like this incredibly hard thing. It's just 1:41:26.960 --> 1:41:28.479 a skill that you have to learn how to do. 1:41:28.960 --> 1:41:32.800 And so maybe he got better at it. Kendrick Bourne, 1:41:34.360 --> 1:41:36.240 I don't want to oversell it, but I don't want 1:41:36.280 --> 1:41:38.439 to undersell it because I do think this matters. I 1:41:38.520 --> 1:41:41.439 do think that this is gonna help. Yes, they do 1:41:41.560 --> 1:41:44.040 have receivers that are getting open, that aren't getting the 1:41:44.080 --> 1:41:47.439 football to an extent, but it's more about who you're 1:41:47.520 --> 1:41:50.360 taking off the field than any of that. Like, if 1:41:50.640 --> 1:41:54.080 he's in the spot that Taekwon Thornton and kJ Osborne 1:41:54.120 --> 1:41:55.760 have been in for the most part, I think what's 1:41:55.760 --> 1:41:57.639 gonna happen in the first four weeks of the season. 1:41:58.000 --> 1:42:02.160 He is a significant, significant upgrade upgrade over those two guys, 1:42:02.680 --> 1:42:06.240 and they are dying, dying for an X receiver that 1:42:06.280 --> 1:42:08.519 can win on one on one, like just one time, 1:42:08.720 --> 1:42:12.080 like run a slant and actually create some separation. They 1:42:12.120 --> 1:42:14.719 went to Osborne twice at the beginning of that game 1:42:15.120 --> 1:42:16.960 against the forty nine ers last week, and he was 1:42:17.080 --> 1:42:19.759 blanketed both times. Like, if you can now have somebody 1:42:19.800 --> 1:42:22.080 that can actually separate on that route and win on 1:42:22.200 --> 1:42:25.400 that route, that's huge for this team. Not to mention 1:42:25.520 --> 1:42:28.240 all the intangible stuff that Kendrick Bourne brings to the table. 1:42:28.840 --> 1:42:31.720 He's great after the catch. You know, ESPN has this 1:42:31.920 --> 1:42:34.200 new You're gonna hate this, but ESPN has this new 1:42:34.240 --> 1:42:38.320 receiving stat. This is a receiving data that they use. 1:42:38.479 --> 1:42:44.040 It's a cumulative stat and it combines separation like you know, 1:42:44.120 --> 1:42:50.360 the next gen separation, contested catchability, and yards after catchability. Right, 1:42:50.479 --> 1:42:54.360 those two things are tangible, right, The separation stats gets 1:42:54.360 --> 1:42:56.760 a little bit wonky. Out of one hundred and one 1:42:56.880 --> 1:43:00.720 receivers last year in twenty twenty three, Kendrick Bourne sixteenth, 1:43:01.640 --> 1:43:05.240 sixteenth best. He was like sandwiched between some really good players, 1:43:05.479 --> 1:43:08.400 like at the wide receiver position. He was on pace 1:43:08.479 --> 1:43:10.280 last year to be a thousand yard receiver on a 1:43:10.400 --> 1:43:13.360 terrible offense. Like he was having a career year before 1:43:13.439 --> 1:43:17.640 the ACL. Well see if he's pre ACL born, like 1:43:17.720 --> 1:43:19.479 that might not be till next year, you know how 1:43:19.520 --> 1:43:23.759 that works, right, But he was metrics wise, stats wise 1:43:23.840 --> 1:43:26.759 that you know, extrapulating his games for a sixteen seventeen 1:43:26.800 --> 1:43:29.920 game season last year. He was having a really good 1:43:30.000 --> 1:43:32.760 year for the Patriots in twenty three. So again I 1:43:32.800 --> 1:43:34.800 don't want to oversell it. I don't want to undersell it. 1:43:34.960 --> 1:43:37.760 They're not getting Jerry Rice or Randy Moss back, you know, 1:43:37.840 --> 1:43:39.960 there you go, but they I think they are getting 1:43:40.000 --> 1:43:41.280 a really really good player back. 1:43:41.320 --> 1:43:43.519 Well, the other thing, I mean, we were calling for 1:43:43.640 --> 1:43:47.760 them to do more like scheme touch stuff, yeah with 1:43:47.880 --> 1:43:50.200 Pop Douglas, which again they just don't see interested in doing. 1:43:51.000 --> 1:43:52.960 Kender Burns another guy you can do scheme touch with 1:43:53.320 --> 1:43:54.760 and you can run on some Mendo rounds and some 1:43:54.880 --> 1:43:56.960 jet passes and things like that, and he's really good 1:43:57.000 --> 1:43:58.519 at the ball in his hand. Right, maybe it opens 1:43:58.560 --> 1:44:01.280 up that part of the playbook a little bit more 1:44:01.479 --> 1:44:03.240 real quick kind of unrelated. 1:44:03.400 --> 1:44:06.599 But did you did I get quote tweeted again? 1:44:06.760 --> 1:44:11.240 No? Did you see Jason Kelsey's rant about analytics? This 1:44:11.439 --> 1:44:14.360 is my viewpoint on stats. Stats are numbers. What I 1:44:14.479 --> 1:44:15.519 care about is the football. 1:44:15.680 --> 1:44:16.280 Where does it go? 1:44:16.479 --> 1:44:18.200 Does it go to the end zone? Do we get points? 1:44:18.400 --> 1:44:21.120 Points are also numbers, but points determined games and wins 1:44:21.160 --> 1:44:25.400 and losses. Stats are numbers. Numbers are nerds. Nerds are losers. 1:44:25.680 --> 1:44:28.799 Therefore stats are losers. Thank you, Jason Kelsey. 1:44:28.880 --> 1:44:32.280 Okay, that's coming from a future Hall of Fame center 1:44:32.400 --> 1:44:34.280 you right, so he probably knows a thing or twill 1:44:34.439 --> 1:44:36.880 now you no offense or not, Jason Kelsey. So the 1:44:36.960 --> 1:44:39.160 fact that you are not on the nerd side of 1:44:39.240 --> 1:44:41.519 this is shocking. But his whole point is that stuff's 1:44:41.560 --> 1:44:42.160 all irrelevant. 1:44:43.000 --> 1:44:45.920 Real ballp the top, Ball up top, get to the 1:44:46.040 --> 1:44:46.360 end zone. 1:44:46.400 --> 1:44:49.559 Okay, here's the thing, cave Man, Ball up top, get 1:44:49.640 --> 1:44:51.240 to the ends? Have you not seen ball up top? 1:44:51.640 --> 1:44:54.320 My new Like, here's the thing. I was having a 1:44:54.360 --> 1:44:56.160 conversation with somebody the other day about this. 1:44:56.320 --> 1:44:56.479 Yeah. 1:44:56.720 --> 1:44:59.000 He asked me, what are you seeing on the defense? Right? 1:44:59.360 --> 1:45:01.880 I said, well, I can tell you what I'm seeing, 1:45:01.920 --> 1:45:03.280 but I'm not a coach, I'm not a player. I 1:45:03.280 --> 1:45:05.479 don't know it like you guys do. And he was like, well, 1:45:05.520 --> 1:45:07.600 tell me what you're seeing and I said, well, statistically, 1:45:08.240 --> 1:45:10.160 and he said, oh, you're going stats on me. And 1:45:10.240 --> 1:45:12.120 I was like yeah, and I was like, yeah, statistically, 1:45:12.479 --> 1:45:14.800 you guys think and Cover two. Okay, you guys are 1:45:14.840 --> 1:45:18.439 playing Cover two. You're getting freaking shredded. Stop playing Cover two. 1:45:18.720 --> 1:45:20.760 That's how I see it. And then I explained what 1:45:20.840 --> 1:45:22.560 I explained earlier in the show. You know, about the 1:45:22.880 --> 1:45:26.880 safeties and not having anybody to contain the quarterback and YadA, YadA, YadA, 1:45:27.200 --> 1:45:30.519 But the point being for us stats people, Yeah, I 1:45:30.640 --> 1:45:33.479 watched the film. I see that. I say to myself, dang, 1:45:33.640 --> 1:45:36.000 like it really seems like brock Party tore up Cover 1:45:36.120 --> 1:45:38.639 two in this game. Then I can go to next Gen, 1:45:38.960 --> 1:45:42.439 into the portal, into the dashboard and see brock Purty 1:45:42.880 --> 1:45:45.720 sure enough, was like one hundred and fifty yards on 1:45:45.960 --> 1:45:47.240 seven attempts in Cover two. 1:45:47.320 --> 1:45:50.040 Instead, he even says points or points are numbers they 1:45:50.120 --> 1:45:53.480 determined games like points, yards whatever. I'm talking about the acronyms. 1:45:54.040 --> 1:45:57.640 When you start putting expected in there, things like that 1:45:58.040 --> 1:46:02.160 like hate EPA, you hate it, show me tangibly. 1:46:02.040 --> 1:46:02.560 What it is. 1:46:03.120 --> 1:46:08.120 Fine if you can't formulate, or it's just pulling numbers 1:46:08.160 --> 1:46:10.519 out of thin air because it's expected this, or or 1:46:10.720 --> 1:46:14.200 you know when you stumers use numbers, are nerds? 1:46:14.840 --> 1:46:18.680 Nerds? Loss? You said that you wanted to bring up 1:46:18.720 --> 1:46:22.520 points per game with the defense, you knew in context 1:46:22.920 --> 1:46:25.200 that that might not be inaccurate. So what did I do? 1:46:25.280 --> 1:46:28.120 I went and found points per drive. That's another tangible number. 1:46:28.280 --> 1:46:32.040 E p A is context. E p A bakes in 1:46:33.160 --> 1:46:37.439 down in distance, score of the game situation. Is that 1:46:38.240 --> 1:46:39.960 kind of formula for e p A? Yes? 1:46:40.360 --> 1:46:40.960 Is it public? 1:46:41.960 --> 1:46:42.160 Yes? 1:46:42.320 --> 1:46:42.600 But no? 1:46:43.080 --> 1:46:45.720 Okay, so there, so I don't know because I don't 1:46:46.040 --> 1:46:46.920 formally is it is? 1:46:47.040 --> 1:46:48.080 But do you know how to code? 1:46:49.360 --> 1:46:53.960 That's not really? No, that doesn't count yards per drive, 1:46:54.640 --> 1:46:58.600 yards per attempt or completions against cover two. That is 1:46:58.640 --> 1:47:00.680 a tangible Okay. 1:47:00.720 --> 1:47:03.560 Okay, Well, good thing that it's supported my argument no 1:47:03.640 --> 1:47:05.640 matter what number we use, because they're bad in all 1:47:05.680 --> 1:47:05.840 of it. 1:47:06.120 --> 1:47:09.440 So stats are numbers I'm not tattooed guy, but I'm 1:47:09.479 --> 1:47:12.160 saying if I were, Stats are numbers. Numbers are nerds. 1:47:12.240 --> 1:47:13.000 Nerds are losers. 1:47:13.080 --> 1:47:13.880 Stats are losers. 1:47:14.000 --> 1:47:16.160 What a great quote by Jason Kelsey. Let's get back 1:47:16.320 --> 1:47:18.240 I think of the Kelsey Brothers guy, but what a quote. 1:47:18.360 --> 1:47:21.479 Let's get back to the TPX hotline. It is Steve 1:47:21.560 --> 1:47:21.960 in New York. 1:47:22.040 --> 1:47:29.479 What's up? Steve? Stay there? All right? We didn't even 1:47:29.560 --> 1:47:32.919 leave Steve on hold for that long. Ted is in Portland? 1:47:32.960 --> 1:47:33.559 What's up? Ted? 1:47:35.320 --> 1:47:40.240 Hey, what's up? Guys? Had a quick question that is hypothetical. 1:47:40.360 --> 1:47:43.519 But if Mayo, you know, I know you said we're 1:47:43.560 --> 1:47:47.759 starting Jacoby, why wouldn't you just say were starting Jacoby 1:47:47.960 --> 1:47:51.720 and then starkrek may and basically catch everyone off. 1:47:52.080 --> 1:47:52.360 God. 1:47:53.080 --> 1:47:56.400 I also wanted to ask Adam would you get him? 1:47:56.960 --> 1:47:59.280 And then also I wanted to add a suggestion. I 1:47:59.360 --> 1:48:01.479 know you guys have been talking about having a whiteboard. 1:48:02.040 --> 1:48:04.360 It would be awesome. We'd love to see it. I'm 1:48:04.400 --> 1:48:06.560 sure there's plenty of other people would love to see it. 1:48:06.840 --> 1:48:09.240 It also be a great way to promote the pods 1:48:09.360 --> 1:48:10.679 through YouTube short clips. 1:48:11.880 --> 1:48:13.680 Yeah, Ted, it's a great point. We do, we do. 1:48:13.920 --> 1:48:16.120 We did talk about the whiteboard, Well, we'll work on that. 1:48:16.280 --> 1:48:18.280 I think it would be a useful tool. We're gonna 1:48:18.280 --> 1:48:21.640 get one. I love that. Uh On DeVante Adams. I'm 1:48:21.640 --> 1:48:24.200 glad he brought this up because we probably should get 1:48:24.320 --> 1:48:28.800 addressed this on the show. You know me, I am 1:48:29.320 --> 1:48:32.840 a shiny new toy. I take de bait every time. 1:48:33.360 --> 1:48:36.680 I want the wide receiver. I love wide receivers. I'll 1:48:36.720 --> 1:48:39.479 take all the wide receivers for once in my life. 1:48:39.800 --> 1:48:41.760 I'm actually gonna say that I don't think this one 1:48:41.880 --> 1:48:44.840 makes sense, which is like shocking to me. I can't 1:48:44.880 --> 1:48:47.280 believe I even just uttered those words that this doesn't 1:48:47.320 --> 1:48:49.479 make sense to go out and trade for probably a 1:48:49.560 --> 1:48:53.680 top five receiver in football. But from Devonte Adams's perspective, 1:48:54.080 --> 1:48:56.439 I can't imagine he wants to come to New England. 1:48:56.439 --> 1:48:58.200 I don't know what the selling point is with the Patriots. 1:48:58.240 --> 1:49:02.280 He's already paid. He just wants to win, Like I just, 1:49:02.400 --> 1:49:04.680 I don't understand what if he doesn't want to play 1:49:04.720 --> 1:49:06.080 for the Raiders, and why does he want to play 1:49:06.120 --> 1:49:08.519 for the Patriots. You know that part of it doesn't 1:49:08.520 --> 1:49:10.560 add up. The other party that doesn't add up. And 1:49:10.600 --> 1:49:12.360 I say this as somebody that was born in the 1:49:12.439 --> 1:49:15.240 same month, in the same year as DeVante Adams. He's 1:49:15.360 --> 1:49:16.960 gonna be thirty two years old in December. A. 1:49:16.960 --> 1:49:19.360 We're born on literally the same day as Jacoby verses. 1:49:19.160 --> 1:49:24.680 I am, we have the same exact birthday. Where what's DeVante? Like, 1:49:24.760 --> 1:49:27.680 what's the outlook with Devonte Adams? Like, yes, you could 1:49:27.720 --> 1:49:30.360 make the argument that he could help Drake may in 1:49:30.400 --> 1:49:32.600 his first full year as a starter next year, but 1:49:32.960 --> 1:49:35.560 like now we're talking about a thirty two year old receiver. Like, 1:49:36.160 --> 1:49:38.719 I don't see how that it's not Stefan Diggs with Buffalo. 1:49:38.880 --> 1:49:41.479 Yeah, right to me, So I'm with you, Like, he's 1:49:41.520 --> 1:49:43.400 not coming here, Yeah, And I know there's a clip 1:49:43.439 --> 1:49:46.080 going around of him being very complimentary of Robert Craft 1:49:46.160 --> 1:49:46.800 and Gerrod Mayo. 1:49:46.960 --> 1:49:48.240 Yeah, yeah, great, maybe. 1:49:48.120 --> 1:49:50.800 He comes here to coach one day. Like the whole 1:49:50.840 --> 1:49:53.240 reason he wants out is the quarterback position. There he 1:49:53.360 --> 1:49:55.920 has He's played with six quarterbacks in two years. Yeah, 1:49:55.960 --> 1:49:59.559 a list that includes Jarrett Stidham, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Brian Hoyertman. 1:49:59.640 --> 1:50:00.639 Still put some numbers. 1:50:00.760 --> 1:50:03.040 It's still put a thousand yards last year, hundred catches. 1:50:02.880 --> 1:50:04.960 Hud A three I think he's not coming here. 1:50:05.360 --> 1:50:08.639 Yeah, I do think hypothetically if he were to, Yeah, 1:50:09.320 --> 1:50:12.880 he can be your bridge to Stefan Diggs or that way. 1:50:13.040 --> 1:50:15.200 Like because you got to take tackle in the first round. 1:50:15.200 --> 1:50:17.160 I think we both agree on that. So you're not 1:50:17.360 --> 1:50:19.920 getting that immediate impact wide receiver in the draft. But 1:50:19.960 --> 1:50:23.040 maybe there's a guy you really like who's a year away. Well, okay, 1:50:23.080 --> 1:50:25.120 we're gonna take him in the second round. But we 1:50:25.240 --> 1:50:27.760 have DeVante Adams in the meantime, so we still have 1:50:27.920 --> 1:50:30.840 this player and Drake Macon can really get going next year. 1:50:30.960 --> 1:50:33.200 So I think there's an argument for it. The report 1:50:33.240 --> 1:50:35.200 out there is the Raiders want a second. That's cute 1:50:35.240 --> 1:50:37.200 that they want that. They can want whatever they want. 1:50:37.560 --> 1:50:39.400 I think realistically it's gonna be a third and maybe 1:50:39.439 --> 1:50:42.960 something else. He's also gonna want a contract extension. If 1:50:43.000 --> 1:50:45.360 it's like a third and you signed him for two years, 1:50:46.160 --> 1:50:49.120 I would probably do that. Yeah, but it's not gonna happen. 1:50:49.160 --> 1:50:52.559 You win, which is not hard with wide receivers. It's 1:50:52.680 --> 1:50:54.360 it's not hard to convince me to trade for a 1:50:54.400 --> 1:50:58.280 wide receiver. I just I just want I don't think 1:50:58.280 --> 1:50:59.480 it's a good marriage. 1:50:59.320 --> 1:51:01.720 Like, it's not it doesn't matter because he's not coming 1:51:01.760 --> 1:51:05.080 here right whatever they want, He's trying to get away 1:51:05.080 --> 1:51:06.240 from quarterback instability. 1:51:06.479 --> 1:51:09.120 What I would say, though, if I'm Elliot Wolf, because 1:51:09.360 --> 1:51:11.160 you have to make the call, if you're the page, 1:51:11.200 --> 1:51:14.040 they should one make the call. Do I put the 1:51:14.280 --> 1:51:16.360 Matthew judea On third round pick on the table. 1:51:16.760 --> 1:51:18.679 So let me ask you this, and to anybody listening, 1:51:18.720 --> 1:51:20.599 ask yourself this, because I had this conversation with somebody 1:51:20.600 --> 1:51:22.880 the other day to say, third round pick, that's ridiculous. 1:51:23.479 --> 1:51:26.679 If I had brought up in July, you can trade 1:51:26.720 --> 1:51:30.519 Matthew jude On for DeVante Adams. Yeah, I think it 1:51:30.520 --> 1:51:34.080 would have been yess across the board. Yeah, this is 1:51:34.200 --> 1:51:35.800 just doing that with this is essentially just making that 1:51:35.880 --> 1:51:38.080 a three team trade. You know me, I am an 1:51:38.240 --> 1:51:40.720 FM picks kind of guy. Yeah, especially. 1:51:41.960 --> 1:51:44.240 You're not trading your first round pick this year. I'll 1:51:44.280 --> 1:51:46.320 even allow for the fact that you're not trading your 1:51:46.320 --> 1:51:51.200 second round pick because until April, because we're talking not 1:51:51.280 --> 1:51:53.719 until March. We're talking about that being like the third 1:51:53.920 --> 1:51:56.320 and the thirty fifth overall pick in the draft. Those 1:51:56.400 --> 1:51:59.840 are two picks that should be legitimate pillar players this team. 1:52:00.000 --> 1:52:02.559 You're not trading it until you know exactly what pick 1:52:02.640 --> 1:52:04.560 it is. Yeah, that like if they trade it for 1:52:04.640 --> 1:52:06.600 DK Metcalf, I'm on the record, I'm on board with that. 1:52:06.760 --> 1:52:08.720 But yeah, but with that being said, once you get 1:52:08.720 --> 1:52:10.200 into the third round of the draft, and I know 1:52:10.360 --> 1:52:14.479 that you could say, okay, like you know, Chase Winovich 1:52:14.600 --> 1:52:16.960 was a third round pick and so was Fred Warner Evan, Like, 1:52:17.040 --> 1:52:18.760 you know, we could play this game all day, right, 1:52:19.080 --> 1:52:23.360 but the on the whole really go back and look 1:52:23.439 --> 1:52:25.000 at the guys that get drafted in the third and 1:52:25.040 --> 1:52:27.599 fourth round of the draft. Like it's sometimes I feel 1:52:27.640 --> 1:52:29.559 like we just value the pick a little bit too much. 1:52:29.920 --> 1:52:34.599 Like you're really talking about maybe twenty twenty five percent 1:52:34.720 --> 1:52:37.120 hit rate on a third round pick, and hit rate 1:52:37.240 --> 1:52:39.160 is like a loose term that I use. Like the 1:52:39.200 --> 1:52:41.200 amount of times that that third round pick turns into 1:52:41.200 --> 1:52:42.320 Fred Warner is one. 1:52:42.240 --> 1:52:45.080 In ten, right, You're you're I'd say a lot longer 1:52:45.120 --> 1:52:47.080 than a lot longer odds than that. But you know, 1:52:47.200 --> 1:52:49.720 if you can get two years of DeVante Adams, even 1:52:49.760 --> 1:52:51.599 if he's eighty percent of the player he's been, that's 1:52:51.600 --> 1:52:55.120 eighty catches eight hundred yards for a third round pick 1:52:55.560 --> 1:52:56.720 when you have two of them. 1:52:57.400 --> 1:53:00.800 Yeah, yeah, all right, let's talk a little like I 1:53:00.960 --> 1:53:02.760 do want to ask, he said, He asked one other thing. 1:53:03.160 --> 1:53:07.840 Oh it's Adams. Oh it's something about Drake Mayo. 1:53:07.920 --> 1:53:10.320 Oh why don't you just say you're starting Jakober set 1:53:10.479 --> 1:53:13.000 then say then start Drake made it catch the team 1:53:13.000 --> 1:53:16.759 off guard. I think the whole keeping the starting quarterback 1:53:16.800 --> 1:53:19.759 a secret thing is one of the most overblown concepts 1:53:19.800 --> 1:53:22.960 in football. The offense is the offense. You're gonna have 1:53:23.120 --> 1:53:25.800 to defend the same concepts. It's just to what level 1:53:25.840 --> 1:53:30.280 they can be executed. But like, if the guy's executing 1:53:30.320 --> 1:53:32.040 at a high level, like you should be prepared to 1:53:32.040 --> 1:53:34.560 stop him at the highest level no matter what. So 1:53:36.680 --> 1:53:40.439 I got I just that's not a good reason to no. 1:53:40.680 --> 1:53:42.479 Make Drake may the starter. When you make Drake may 1:53:42.520 --> 1:53:44.240 the starter, do it, do it with your whole chest. 1:53:44.439 --> 1:53:48.760 Yeah. Uh, just one quick thing, because I I'm not 1:53:48.800 --> 1:53:50.760 afraid to be critical of Mayo. I was critical of 1:53:50.840 --> 1:53:53.240 Mayo for the whole first hour of the show, But 1:53:54.000 --> 1:53:56.200 on Sunday I saw a lot of this, and I 1:53:56.240 --> 1:53:59.000 guess it's probably just my timeline and the cesspool that 1:53:59.160 --> 1:54:02.080 is the X Machine every once in a while. But 1:54:02.320 --> 1:54:06.599 Mayo told Scott Zolac on the pregame show on your station, 1:54:07.200 --> 1:54:10.080 like twenty minutes before the game that they were gonna 1:54:10.120 --> 1:54:12.280 run a lot of short passes, quick game, get the 1:54:12.320 --> 1:54:14.960 ball out. Why would you tell the other team that 1:54:15.200 --> 1:54:18.559 that's ridiculous? So you're telling me that, I think it's 1:54:18.680 --> 1:54:21.280 Nick Sorenson, the defensive coordinator for the forty nine ers, 1:54:21.680 --> 1:54:25.120 and Kyle Shanahan and your boy Brandon Staley in twenty 1:54:25.240 --> 1:54:28.439 minutes are gonna take the game plan that they came 1:54:28.520 --> 1:54:32.480 in with and completely reinvent the game plan in twenty 1:54:32.600 --> 1:54:35.040 minutes because of what Girod said to Scott Zolac, Like, 1:54:35.120 --> 1:54:37.720 what are we doing If they're good coaches who know 1:54:37.800 --> 1:54:39.760 how to game plan, which give them the list? Okay, 1:54:39.920 --> 1:54:41.760 but yeah, if they're good coaches who know what a 1:54:41.800 --> 1:54:45.320 game plan, they probably should have known that was gonna 1:54:45.320 --> 1:54:48.760 be the game play anyway, that was anything mind blowing. Also, no, 1:54:48.840 --> 1:54:50.520 because I saw this too and I was annoya, Yeah, 1:54:51.280 --> 1:54:53.200 drawn my own van Pelt told us that was gonna 1:54:53.200 --> 1:54:56.200 be the game plan on Monday. Yeah, it was out 1:54:56.240 --> 1:54:56.840 there for a week. 1:54:57.000 --> 1:55:00.400 It's just also just not how with Brandon Staley. Yeah, 1:55:00.560 --> 1:55:02.240 maybe you got to tell him a few times before 1:55:02.280 --> 1:55:03.360 he gets it, Brent Day. 1:55:04.520 --> 1:55:07.160 It's just not how it works. Yeah, it's not tell 1:55:07.400 --> 1:55:10.000 you tell a broadcaster or twenty minutes before the game. 1:55:10.240 --> 1:55:13.240 You're not giving away any state secrets. You're not giving 1:55:13.320 --> 1:55:15.760 away which, by the way, again they've already said earlier 1:55:15.800 --> 1:55:19.320 in the week. Yeah quickly on the Dolphins, Yeah, uh, 1:55:19.680 --> 1:55:23.840 just my quick dolphins R. I know the Dolphins are 1:55:24.160 --> 1:55:27.360 right now in disarray. I know you hated my take 1:55:27.520 --> 1:55:29.400 that I gave earlier in the show about Drake May 1:55:29.440 --> 1:55:30.200 playing in this game. 1:55:30.800 --> 1:55:32.640 Well, it was him playing in the game and then 1:55:33.080 --> 1:55:33.720 benching him again. 1:55:33.760 --> 1:55:35.760 I didn't say that they had to bench him again. 1:55:36.080 --> 1:55:38.240 I said that they could still bench him. I don't. 1:55:39.120 --> 1:55:43.000 We don't need to get into it again. My one 1:55:43.120 --> 1:55:46.120 fear about this game from a Patriot perspective, I have 1:55:46.240 --> 1:55:50.080 to but on offense, the Dolphins offense. I watched their 1:55:50.160 --> 1:55:55.200 film against Tennessee with with scoop right, Scoop Hunley, Scoop poop. 1:55:55.240 --> 1:55:55.920 I think it's snoop. 1:55:55.960 --> 1:55:58.760 I think it's Scoop, Snoop, Scoop. We're terrible. 1:55:58.840 --> 1:56:01.920 It's snoop, Tyler Huntley, It's Snoop. I just looked it 1:56:02.000 --> 1:56:04.640 up and Snoop Snoop Huntley. Maybe Scoop would be a 1:56:04.720 --> 1:56:06.680 terrible name for quarterback, maybe like a linebacker. 1:56:06.800 --> 1:56:08.560 I know, I think it's a terrible name either. 1:56:08.720 --> 1:56:10.320 Didn't the Patriots that was Scooby. 1:56:10.360 --> 1:56:13.600 They had Scooby right, Scooby right, So you I think 1:56:13.680 --> 1:56:17.560 like UFL also Snoop Huntley, SFL all start and champion. 1:56:17.720 --> 1:56:20.120 So my my one fear about this game coming off 1:56:20.160 --> 1:56:22.920 a game where you give up five explosive plays to 1:56:23.120 --> 1:56:26.040 the San Francisco forty nine ers, this is obviously one 1:56:26.040 --> 1:56:28.600 of the most explosive offenses in the NFL. I get 1:56:28.640 --> 1:56:30.680 they don't have their quarterback. I get that they have 1:56:30.840 --> 1:56:32.520 Snoop Huntley now. 1:56:32.440 --> 1:56:34.640 A Bowl or Snoop Puntley's in respect on his Okay, 1:56:36.040 --> 1:56:38.400 he was seventeenth, he was there with Mac John. 1:56:39.400 --> 1:56:41.880 Snoop Puntley is that quarterback? Not to U I get 1:56:41.920 --> 1:56:44.040 all that kind of stuff. But you watch their film 1:56:44.080 --> 1:56:47.080 against Tennessee, and if I was DeMarcus coming into Rod 1:56:47.120 --> 1:56:49.320 Mayo and Comington said this this morning, I'll give him credit. 1:56:49.400 --> 1:56:52.600 I think he probably did do this. Just put a 1:56:52.680 --> 1:56:55.200 cut up of all the times that Tyreek Kill has 1:56:55.240 --> 1:56:59.440 opened down the field in that game, you know, just verticals. 1:56:59.680 --> 1:57:02.200 You know, they play cover three. He just runs right 1:57:02.280 --> 1:57:05.320 through the defense right like, and he's open it. Just 1:57:06.000 --> 1:57:09.240 somehow Snoop Huntley overthrew Tyreek Kill, which I still don't 1:57:09.240 --> 1:57:11.840 really understand how you do, but he did. He figured 1:57:11.880 --> 1:57:14.640 it out. So my point being is my fear about 1:57:14.640 --> 1:57:18.160 this game defensively for the Patriots is that the plays 1:57:18.840 --> 1:57:21.800 are there to be made by this Dolphins offense. The 1:57:22.000 --> 1:57:25.160 execution in the timing is not there because of the quarterback. 1:57:25.320 --> 1:57:28.240 Right so all it takes is the blind squirrel finding 1:57:28.280 --> 1:57:30.560 a nut once or twice in this game, and all 1:57:30.560 --> 1:57:32.360 of a sudden you're down fourteen to nothing because he 1:57:32.440 --> 1:57:35.920 hit two sixty yard bombs to Tyreek Kill. The opportunities 1:57:35.920 --> 1:57:38.080 are still there on film for this offense to hit 1:57:38.160 --> 1:57:41.120 big plays. They're just not running it like they usually 1:57:41.200 --> 1:57:44.160 run it. I know you're gonna probably hate this, but 1:57:44.480 --> 1:57:48.000 I don't necessarily see this as like a McDaniel problem necessarily, 1:57:48.840 --> 1:57:52.360 but I definitely see this as a quarterback timing issue 1:57:53.000 --> 1:57:55.640 with the receivers don't fall asleep at the wheel against 1:57:55.680 --> 1:57:56.080 this Miami. 1:57:56.160 --> 1:57:56.320 Well. 1:57:56.520 --> 1:57:59.880 McDaniel's so brilliant, make it work. How many bad quarter 1:58:00.120 --> 1:58:02.000 backs as Kyle Shanahan. 1:58:01.680 --> 1:58:03.640 Won with to an extent, I just love that. 1:58:03.880 --> 1:58:06.000 That just backdoored you well, I said, I said, to 1:58:06.120 --> 1:58:08.840 an extent, Kyle Shanahan's never been this bad. No, and 1:58:08.920 --> 1:58:12.800 Shanahan's better than me. You have knockoff Shanahan essentially, so. 1:58:14.360 --> 1:58:15.960 To me, Yeah, the big. 1:58:15.880 --> 1:58:18.960 Plays scare me because they only need to hit one 1:58:19.000 --> 1:58:20.400 of them probably to win this game. 1:58:20.480 --> 1:58:22.360 And I was saying this to Uh. 1:58:22.880 --> 1:58:24.840 I was talking about what we were walking out of practice. Yeah, 1:58:26.320 --> 1:58:28.600 there's a there's gonna be turnovers in this game. Yeah, 1:58:29.040 --> 1:58:32.240 defensive points. If a defense scores a touchdown, the team 1:58:32.240 --> 1:58:35.240 probably wins this game. If not, we won't see a tie. 1:58:35.400 --> 1:58:38.240 Like I I, it's gonna be low scoring, zero zero 1:58:39.040 --> 1:58:42.680 leather helmets. It's gonna be low scoring. There's I would 1:58:42.760 --> 1:58:46.520 there's gonna be a very very thin margin for error. 1:58:46.560 --> 1:58:48.640 And I know that kind of sounds weird because it's 1:58:48.680 --> 1:58:50.480 usually like, no, you have a thin margin forrer when 1:58:50.480 --> 1:58:54.200 you play good team. I'm talking about offensively. Defensively you 1:58:54.240 --> 1:58:58.040 have more margin forrer. But yeah, if this defense needs 1:58:58.080 --> 1:59:00.200 to start forcing turnovers, and I know they did last 1:59:00.240 --> 1:59:02.160 week it was late in the game. Yeah, they need 1:59:02.240 --> 1:59:05.440 to start forcing turnovers short fields if not points on 1:59:05.520 --> 1:59:08.240 the board. Turnovers are on im portant every week, but 1:59:08.280 --> 1:59:10.280 I think this week especially they matter. And again if 1:59:10.280 --> 1:59:13.520 a defense scores, My bet is that team wins the 1:59:13.600 --> 1:59:15.760 game if a defense puts points on the board in 1:59:15.840 --> 1:59:17.920 this one. So, I think you don't get beat deep. 1:59:18.240 --> 1:59:20.480 I think you play ben, don't break, and you force 1:59:20.800 --> 1:59:24.040 Tyler Huntley to be a surgeon in the red zone. Yeah, 1:59:24.680 --> 1:59:26.400 but don't let him break contain because he can. He 1:59:26.440 --> 1:59:28.000 can break a sixty yard run and that kind of 1:59:28.040 --> 1:59:29.040 thing can turn out the game too. 1:59:29.280 --> 1:59:31.440 Yeah, so a little bit, I agree with you that 1:59:32.640 --> 1:59:35.480 they this should be the Patriots should be forcing them 1:59:35.520 --> 1:59:37.000 to march. You have to be at death by a 1:59:37.040 --> 1:59:39.520 thousand paper cuts if you're gonna beat us, snap the 1:59:39.560 --> 1:59:43.440 ball a bunch, march the field. That means playing discipline football. Yeah. 1:59:44.040 --> 1:59:48.360 They Miami also motions more than any other team in 1:59:48.400 --> 1:59:51.640 the league. They love to run motion at the snap. 1:59:51.680 --> 1:59:53.480 They run that at the second highest rate. They run 1:59:53.560 --> 1:59:57.200 all pure motion across the board at the highest rate 1:59:57.240 --> 1:59:59.520 in the league. Almost eighty five percent of their offensive 1:59:59.560 --> 2:00:04.320 place motion of some sort, which is ridiculous. If I'm 2:00:04.360 --> 2:00:09.600 the Patriots defensively, I'm looking at this and seeing Christian 2:00:09.720 --> 2:00:12.560 Zales and Jonathan Jones on the outside, Marcus Jones in 2:00:12.600 --> 2:00:15.400 the slot, and this matchup actually can work, right, Yeah, 2:00:16.160 --> 2:00:18.160 I have three guys that can run with those guys 2:00:18.200 --> 2:00:21.120 down the field. I don't know if this is necessarily 2:00:21.200 --> 2:00:24.320 a game where you shadow or travel with a specific receiver, 2:00:25.040 --> 2:00:28.520 allow them to window dress, eye candy all they want 2:00:28.640 --> 2:00:31.480 with all their silly little motions, and just let them 2:00:31.520 --> 2:00:33.200 come out the side they come out of right, and 2:00:33.400 --> 2:00:35.880 just yeah, match the guy that comes into your zone 2:00:36.280 --> 2:00:39.680 and play it like that. I wouldn't go and have 2:00:40.000 --> 2:00:43.160 Gonzo chasing Hill across the field and then Hill runs 2:00:43.200 --> 2:00:45.920 on Thomas Rout and you're in chase mode the whole time. 2:00:45.920 --> 2:00:48.440 Do you put John Jones on Tyreek Hill and man 2:00:49.200 --> 2:00:51.240 and you're better with terminology and I always forget what 2:00:51.320 --> 2:00:54.520 he's called, but you put John Jones shadow man on 2:00:54.640 --> 2:00:57.600 Tyreek Hill, and everybody plays zone around that. So you 2:00:57.800 --> 2:00:59.960 make sure Hill's accounted for with the guy that's history 2:01:00.280 --> 2:01:02.200 had a lot of success against him, and then everybody 2:01:02.240 --> 2:01:03.600 else is just make sure we have the rest of 2:01:03.640 --> 2:01:04.280 the field covered. 2:01:04.600 --> 2:01:08.080 So against Kansas City in the ANFC Championship game all 2:01:08.120 --> 2:01:10.760 those years ago in twenty eight team the call that 2:01:10.880 --> 2:01:15.680 they ran with Tyreek Kill dimod magic cover zero. Now 2:01:16.000 --> 2:01:19.760 it's not pure cover zero. They what they would have 2:01:19.960 --> 2:01:22.920 is they would have Devin mccordy would cloud to Tyree 2:01:23.040 --> 2:01:26.080 Kill's side, so he would like be like the over 2:01:26.200 --> 2:01:28.880 the top player, the double team on Tyreek' side. You 2:01:28.920 --> 2:01:31.560 don't want to bracket or cone Tyreek because he's just 2:01:31.640 --> 2:01:33.320 going to run right through the middle of it. You 2:01:33.400 --> 2:01:35.200 want to high low Tyreek Kill, so you have a 2:01:35.280 --> 2:01:37.080 guy on him underneath, and you have a guy over 2:01:37.120 --> 2:01:39.160 the top of that player. So they would do that, 2:01:39.320 --> 2:01:41.440 and then everybody else on the field is just in 2:01:41.560 --> 2:01:44.360 straight up man to man without safety help. You're in 2:01:44.440 --> 2:01:47.680 cover zero. Everywhere else they could do something like that. 2:01:47.920 --> 2:01:49.080 They have done stuff like that. 2:01:49.200 --> 2:01:51.160 Because now you're in man and you have to pass off. 2:01:51.560 --> 2:01:54.680 I'm saying just like so, they they've also played cloud right, 2:01:54.760 --> 2:01:58.320 so three cloud would be like you'd have a defender 2:01:58.800 --> 2:02:00.760 on the line of scrimmage. Usually they would do it 2:02:00.800 --> 2:02:03.440 with Jabriel Peppers and they would just have Jabriel Peppers 2:02:03.680 --> 2:02:06.080 chuck the crap out of them at the line of scrimmage, 2:02:06.360 --> 2:02:08.680 and then he would let him go after he released, 2:02:08.920 --> 2:02:11.200 and then Gonzo would pick him up like eight to 2:02:11.320 --> 2:02:13.800 ten yards off the line of scrimmage, but he would 2:02:13.800 --> 2:02:15.840 already have been slowed by the jam at the line. 2:02:15.880 --> 2:02:16.520 But you can't do that. 2:02:16.640 --> 2:02:19.200 He's in motion though, So that's the problem with the motions. 2:02:19.520 --> 2:02:21.960 So that's why I feel like if they just let 2:02:22.080 --> 2:02:24.160 him come out whichever side he's gonna come out of, 2:02:24.520 --> 2:02:27.120 and then just catch him down the field, you know, 2:02:27.200 --> 2:02:30.120 by playing off coverage with him, like if you're if snow, 2:02:30.200 --> 2:02:33.080 Puntley's gonna beat you throwing like little crossers and slants 2:02:33.120 --> 2:02:35.200 and stuff like that because you're playing off Like that's 2:02:35.200 --> 2:02:37.640 what Tua would do, right, But I don't really trust 2:02:37.720 --> 2:02:38.440 new Puntley. 2:02:38.200 --> 2:02:39.880 To do making keep making through I get. I don't know, 2:02:40.000 --> 2:02:41.560 just almost like spying Tyreek Hill. 2:02:41.640 --> 2:02:45.839 Yeah, I would do something like that. Yeah, offensively. Anthony 2:02:45.880 --> 2:02:52.280 Weaver is a Raven's disciple McDonald guy with the Baltimore Ravens. 2:02:52.880 --> 2:02:57.080 They can pressure now. They lost Jalen Phillips, but they 2:02:57.160 --> 2:03:00.320 have Zach Steeler, who's like a really underrated play on 2:03:00.400 --> 2:03:03.240 their interior, really good player. It doesn't get a ton 2:03:03.280 --> 2:03:07.320 of National pub Kalais Campbell obviously is not a Miami Dolphin. 2:03:07.400 --> 2:03:11.480 He's still doing his thing. And Emmanuel Agba is like 2:03:11.800 --> 2:03:15.640 a really solid, well rounded football player. He's not a 2:03:15.840 --> 2:03:18.720 twitchy athlete like Phillips's. He kind of reminds me a 2:03:18.720 --> 2:03:21.800 little bit of Dietrich wise, like just long arm, physical, 2:03:21.960 --> 2:03:26.440 heavy guy, discipline player. He's really good too. They can 2:03:26.600 --> 2:03:29.280 pressure and they can man pressure, and they probably will 2:03:29.720 --> 2:03:32.400 on Sunday against the Patriots and go with the same 2:03:32.520 --> 2:03:36.640 book or the blueprint. The Jets, the Niners, they do 2:03:36.800 --> 2:03:39.600 use the same blueprint. They blintched a ton, They played 2:03:39.680 --> 2:03:43.360 Manta Man. They forced the ball outside the numbers, you know, 2:03:43.440 --> 2:03:46.200 funnel it outside, make them beat us quick, made them, 2:03:46.240 --> 2:03:49.000 make them beat us and block us. I assume that's 2:03:49.040 --> 2:03:51.360 what Miami is gonna do as well. I assume it's 2:03:51.400 --> 2:03:54.920 gonna be pretty successful. To be honest with you, I 2:03:55.000 --> 2:03:57.280 don't know what the Patriots do the way. 2:03:57.280 --> 2:04:00.480 They literally just signed Tyas Bowser, okay, so they know 2:04:00.560 --> 2:04:01.879 the guy that can get after the quarterback. 2:04:01.960 --> 2:04:04.000 I don't know what the Patriots are going to do 2:04:04.240 --> 2:04:08.720 to get teams out of the blueprint that they're currently in. 2:04:09.320 --> 2:04:12.360 They're facing the number one rate in the league of 2:04:12.480 --> 2:04:16.680 single high defensive structure like cover one, cover three, post safety, 2:04:17.120 --> 2:04:19.600 seven to eight guys in the box, blitz a ton, 2:04:20.400 --> 2:04:23.680 pressure a ton, man coverage a ton like. I don't 2:04:23.720 --> 2:04:25.560 know how you get teams out of that with their 2:04:25.600 --> 2:04:29.760 current personnel. But that's a VP, right Like. He's got 2:04:29.840 --> 2:04:31.960 to figure out a way because right now, you're not 2:04:32.000 --> 2:04:33.600 going to be able to run the ball against the 2:04:33.680 --> 2:04:36.960 boxes in the counts that they're seeing very successfully. Unless 2:04:37.120 --> 2:04:40.040 'm Andre who's fumbling every game, goes beast mode like 2:04:40.120 --> 2:04:42.240 he did in Week one, you're not going to be 2:04:42.280 --> 2:04:44.280 able to do run the ball a whole lot. I 2:04:44.360 --> 2:04:47.640 don't know where they go offensively defensively, I think they 2:04:47.680 --> 2:04:50.360 have some answers, especially with a backup quarterback in there. 2:04:51.000 --> 2:04:53.680 They were all predicting a rock fight on Sunday. It 2:04:53.800 --> 2:04:56.840 sounds like you're in the same boat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, much. 2:04:57.160 --> 2:05:00.680 All right, one quick email before we because this is 2:05:00.880 --> 2:05:04.440 this is topical. So Eric emails in and he says 2:05:04.480 --> 2:05:07.600 that he works for a company. I get this that 2:05:07.800 --> 2:05:09.720 makes digital whiteboard apps. 2:05:10.800 --> 2:05:12.440 Oh, here we go. 2:05:12.680 --> 2:05:15.440 Yeah, so it's a digital whiteboard, so we could probably 2:05:15.480 --> 2:05:18.240 do it right here on the tablet, and he said 2:05:18.280 --> 2:05:21.680 that he is a big fan of the show and 2:05:22.120 --> 2:05:24.600 is willing to give us a free account to make 2:05:24.680 --> 2:05:25.120 this happen. 2:05:25.280 --> 2:05:26.960 We may need to put this now. The problem is 2:05:27.240 --> 2:05:28.960 a lot of people also just listen audibly. 2:05:29.800 --> 2:05:34.280 Yes, so we yes, we're serving the the YouTube body 2:05:34.320 --> 2:05:35.880 and so no, you would just have to be able 2:05:35.920 --> 2:05:37.720 to describe what's going on as you do. Maybe I 2:05:37.720 --> 2:05:39.360 could do a little play by play, or I would 2:05:39.360 --> 2:05:41.000 all you're right, and you'd have to remind me to 2:05:41.080 --> 2:05:43.560 say sorry to the listening on it, to pull a 2:05:43.640 --> 2:05:47.120 Colin Coward and say, I know only the people watching 2:05:47.160 --> 2:05:49.800 on TV can see this graphic, but here's this graphic 2:05:49.880 --> 2:05:50.360 that I made. 2:05:50.960 --> 2:05:53.360 So maybe we need to get that hooked up to 2:05:53.400 --> 2:05:55.400 the YouTube or could we just project it behind us. 2:05:55.560 --> 2:05:56.720 Yeah, well we'll figure it out. 2:05:56.760 --> 2:05:59.480 Okay, But we have another email about like Kelvin Banks 2:05:59.600 --> 2:05:59.880 or something. 2:06:00.080 --> 2:06:01.800 Oh, yeah, of course you want to get to that. 2:06:02.120 --> 2:06:04.520 I'll let you have this one the email are asked, 2:06:04.560 --> 2:06:07.000 and sorry, I'll I can't find out. I'll find out 2:06:07.000 --> 2:06:09.280 when you're talking to get the emailer's name. But he 2:06:09.400 --> 2:06:12.280 asked that he's seeing a lot of mock drafts that 2:06:12.400 --> 2:06:16.000 are flipping the two of them now, and well, Calvin 2:06:16.040 --> 2:06:17.720 Banks has moved ahead of Will Campbell. 2:06:18.080 --> 2:06:20.480 Yeah, so a couple of reasons for that. I think 2:06:20.520 --> 2:06:24.240 there is concern about arm length. Arm length with Will Campbell. 2:06:24.680 --> 2:06:27.280 Jim Naggy had it at thirty two and seven eighths, 2:06:27.320 --> 2:06:28.960 which would be just under the threshold. 2:06:29.040 --> 2:06:30.000 Now you may not care. 2:06:31.440 --> 2:06:34.160 Who is the guy. The threshold was thirty four and 2:06:34.240 --> 2:06:36.240 then he was at thirty three and they were just like, nope, 2:06:36.280 --> 2:06:38.920 he's a good tackle for Shawn all right, so maybe 2:06:39.000 --> 2:06:42.280 he resets the threshold again. The other thing is Will 2:06:42.400 --> 2:06:45.240 Campbell is five penalties in five games. Four of them 2:06:45.280 --> 2:06:47.240 are false starts. Not all of those are on the road. 2:06:48.000 --> 2:06:50.120 And look, they've both been very good. I'd be happy 2:06:50.200 --> 2:06:53.280 with either, but when it is that narrow, you're going 2:06:53.320 --> 2:06:56.800 to look at things like penalties, and Calvin Banks has 2:06:56.800 --> 2:07:00.440 been clean. He also played better against Michigan Campbell did 2:07:00.480 --> 2:07:03.600 against South Carolina. That's each team, basically is each player 2:07:03.880 --> 2:07:08.080 basically is one marquee matchup. I mean, Campbell played Florida 2:07:08.120 --> 2:07:10.800 State two and held up well there, But that doesn't 2:07:10.800 --> 2:07:13.120 surprise me these guys. It's gonna be Drake May, Jane 2:07:13.200 --> 2:07:14.800 Daniels all over again just to tackle. 2:07:15.160 --> 2:07:19.440 So this is Nicholas asked this question. I haven't studied 2:07:19.480 --> 2:07:23.160 these guys. This is gonna happen though, because last year 2:07:23.600 --> 2:07:26.400 it was around November that I threw on the first 2:07:26.480 --> 2:07:28.880 Drake May tape. I think I was in Denver and 2:07:29.040 --> 2:07:32.720 was probably texting you like, can we draft this guy now? Please? 2:07:33.600 --> 2:07:35.600 And I think it was around November that I threw 2:07:35.640 --> 2:07:38.760 on the first Drake May tape. So it's coming. It's coming, folks, 2:07:38.960 --> 2:07:42.440 I'm sure I will. I haven't watched them closely enough 2:07:42.520 --> 2:07:44.240 yet to have a take on, like which one I 2:07:44.400 --> 2:07:47.640 liked better. I liked Will Campbell's tape last year better 2:07:47.720 --> 2:07:50.360 than Kelvin Banks's tape. That's what I've been going off of. 2:07:50.680 --> 2:07:52.879 But that was last year. We have more information. 2:07:53.000 --> 2:07:54.480 We also see the penalties on tape. 2:07:54.640 --> 2:07:58.880 To the arm length thing, it is a factor. It 2:07:58.960 --> 2:08:02.160 will matter. Combine is gonna be big. You know, I'm 2:08:02.200 --> 2:08:04.280 gonna be there with the tape measure. 2:08:04.160 --> 2:08:05.880 If he's at thirty two and seven, Ace, does he 2:08:06.000 --> 2:08:08.120 like have two friends pull on him before he goes 2:08:08.160 --> 2:08:10.480 to the measurement so can find another quarter inch? 2:08:10.680 --> 2:08:14.600 So Rashaun Slater for the Chargers, Uh, he has exactly 2:08:14.800 --> 2:08:18.720 thirty three inch arms. Yeah, on the nose, he's fantastic. 2:08:18.840 --> 2:08:22.720 He's elite at left tackle. Yeah, So everybody has kind 2:08:22.800 --> 2:08:27.400 of redone their thought process there. This is gonna you're 2:08:27.400 --> 2:08:31.040 gonna hate this. It's right up your alley. The nerd 2:08:31.280 --> 2:08:35.200 side of things is trying to convince the football people 2:08:35.800 --> 2:08:38.080 that arm length is a myth, not a myth, but 2:08:38.240 --> 2:08:40.320 like doesn't matter as much. Like obviously, if a guy 2:08:40.400 --> 2:08:42.200 is thirty one inch charms, he's not gonna play tackle. 2:08:42.720 --> 2:08:45.200 But so for for reference, Peter Skorronsky was thirty two 2:08:45.240 --> 2:08:45.919 and a quarter. 2:08:45.840 --> 2:08:49.000 Right, So thirty two and seven eights versus thirty three 2:08:49.320 --> 2:08:51.800 or thirty three and a half. The nerds would tell you, 2:08:52.320 --> 2:08:54.480 what are we talking about. We're talking about half an 2:08:54.480 --> 2:08:56.440 inch and now you're gonna move the guy inside the 2:08:56.480 --> 2:08:58.960 guard over half an inch of arm length, Like that's 2:08:59.000 --> 2:09:01.640 not gonna make a big differen And the football people 2:09:01.720 --> 2:09:03.880 and some of the football people in this organization that 2:09:03.920 --> 2:09:07.240 I've talked to, they they think it matters. Like I 2:09:07.280 --> 2:09:10.720 remember we were talking about Mike on Win who going 2:09:10.840 --> 2:09:13.200 and playing tackle and signing him as a tackle. The 2:09:13.320 --> 2:09:15.400 one thing that was pointed out to me by people 2:09:15.480 --> 2:09:18.240 here is that he actually has tackle length. If you 2:09:18.280 --> 2:09:20.879 look at his arms, he's over the thirty three inch threshold. 2:09:21.360 --> 2:09:24.320 So they do care about this kind of stuff here. Well. 2:09:24.400 --> 2:09:26.520 So all right, So, and it's one thing, like you said, 2:09:26.640 --> 2:09:28.600 thirty two even thirty two and a half, thirty two 2:09:28.640 --> 2:09:31.240 and seven, a's talking about a quarter inch how much 2:09:31.320 --> 2:09:33.400 g factor in So Slater's thirty three inch arms at 2:09:33.400 --> 2:09:35.800 six y four? Yep, Campbell's listed again we'll see at 2:09:35.840 --> 2:09:39.120 the combine. But Campbell's listed at sixty six, so he 2:09:39.320 --> 2:09:42.640 has more. The proportions are different. Does that make sense 2:09:42.680 --> 2:09:43.360 to get what I'm saying. 2:09:43.400 --> 2:09:46.120 Yeah, and I actually on one who has a thirty 2:09:46.160 --> 2:09:48.680 four and three Acey he clears it. Yeah. 2:09:48.960 --> 2:09:51.880 But just even if they are thirty three, even if 2:09:51.920 --> 2:09:54.680 Campbell comes into thirty three likes later, just thirty three 2:09:54.720 --> 2:09:57.000 at six six get viewed differently than thirty three at 2:09:57.040 --> 2:09:57.480 sixty four. 2:09:59.760 --> 2:10:03.840 It's different because like when you talk about height, the 2:10:03.880 --> 2:10:05.760 two things that you look at with height are stride 2:10:05.840 --> 2:10:08.640 length is the biggest one. So like taller tackles, the 2:10:08.720 --> 2:10:10.600 advantage that they have is that they have they are 2:10:10.720 --> 2:10:12.760 their strides are longer, so when they kick out in 2:10:12.800 --> 2:10:15.120 their pas set, they get more depth and they get 2:10:15.200 --> 2:10:18.160 they cover more ground with their steps. That's on when 2:10:18.160 --> 2:10:20.600 who's problem Like he has got the length, but he's 2:10:20.640 --> 2:10:23.560 only six two sixty three so his strides are smaller, 2:10:23.640 --> 2:10:24.800 so he doesn't cover the ground. 2:10:25.320 --> 2:10:25.440 Uh. 2:10:25.640 --> 2:10:27.880 The other issue though, is the Nate Soldier thing where 2:10:27.920 --> 2:10:30.280 you're too tall, right, and then you can't leverage and 2:10:30.360 --> 2:10:32.400 then you can't get underneath guys and stuff like that. 2:10:32.880 --> 2:10:35.480 So I would say it's different buckets length. You know 2:10:35.640 --> 2:10:37.240 arm length, and I know you know this, but I'm 2:10:37.280 --> 2:10:41.800 just explaining it. Arm length is first contact, right first, 2:10:41.880 --> 2:10:45.160 meaningful contact is big. Not exposing your chest is big. 2:10:45.520 --> 2:10:47.760 So when you have long arms, you can keep guys 2:10:47.840 --> 2:10:49.880 at your fingertips and then you can keep guys out 2:10:49.920 --> 2:10:51.280 of your chest and now to your plate. 2:10:51.480 --> 2:10:53.720 That's going to concern people about Campbell because he plays 2:10:53.800 --> 2:10:54.880 relatively straight up. 2:10:54.960 --> 2:10:57.160 Now, it walks for him, at least the college level. 2:10:57.200 --> 2:10:59.280 It works for me. He's in the SEC, but he 2:11:00.040 --> 2:11:02.280 plays more vertically than you probably coach a guy. 2:11:02.440 --> 2:11:04.920 Yeah, so it'd be interesting to see what I see. 2:11:05.000 --> 2:11:07.120 You know, obviously, I think Calvin Banks is more of 2:11:07.200 --> 2:11:10.360 that prototypical build for a tackle like He's gonna check 2:11:10.400 --> 2:11:13.760 all the threshold and stuff. I just from technically, from 2:11:13.800 --> 2:11:17.040 a technical perspective, I remember what I saw of Will 2:11:17.120 --> 2:11:20.280 Campbell was really really impressive. Not all that different than Scornsky, 2:11:20.400 --> 2:11:22.400 you know, I know you brought him up earlier. It's 2:11:22.440 --> 2:11:25.320 not all that different. Scoronsky was just you could tell 2:11:25.360 --> 2:11:27.040 that that dude came out of the womb as an 2:11:27.080 --> 2:11:29.240 offensive lineman right like it was just in his blood. 2:11:29.720 --> 2:11:32.880 The technique was just so good. I think Campbell's in 2:11:32.920 --> 2:11:35.720 a similar boat. All right, that does it for this week, 2:11:36.760 --> 2:11:39.200 or he'll be back next week. We'll talk about the 2:11:39.320 --> 2:11:41.680 Houston Texans. That'd be a fun little one. We'll see. 2:11:42.160 --> 2:11:44.440 I'm sure we'll still be in Drake may wait and 2:11:44.520 --> 2:11:46.280 see mode at that point, and Alex we'll get his 2:11:46.360 --> 2:11:48.480 way and we'll wait for ten years for that. But 2:11:49.040 --> 2:11:52.200 we'll get c. J. Stroud and the Texans here. Next week. 2:11:52.480 --> 2:11:55.720 Will recap this game against the Dolphins. But before we go, 2:11:56.240 --> 2:11:59.120 this week, the Pats are facing off against the Miami Dolphins, 2:11:59.160 --> 2:12:01.440 and you can catch all the action right from your 2:12:01.520 --> 2:12:04.760 living room. 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