1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Third hour Clayan book kicks off right now, and we're 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: gonna give you the latest here on the Hunter Biden conviction. Guilty, guilty, guilty, 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: three counts And what is the media doing with this? 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: How are they trying to make sure there is the 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: bare minimum of political impact and also accountability for Hunter, 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: which I don't think this qualifies as accountability. It's just 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: he didn't manage to be entirely above the law for 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: the last decade or so. So I have to say 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: I think it's overall what I expected and said so here, 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: and the sentencing will probably happen. It's scheduled to be 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: likely around October. They will do everything they can to 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: make sure that there is no need for him to 13 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: actually show up to any prison cell. But I wanted 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: to because Hunter's gonna get pardoned by his dad. Just 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: remember I said this, He's gonna get pardoned by his dad. 16 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: You know what, I don't even know if you have 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: you know this too, right, We all know this. So 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: it's not like I'm making a prediction here, like, oh, 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: I think the son's gonna come up tomorrow. Yeah, Hunter's 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: gonna pardon his dad. 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: We know that. 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: I'm sorry Joe is gonna pardon Hunter. If Hunter pardon 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: his dad, that would be amazing. Be worried, be worried 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: about the Biden family. So the way that they're trying 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: to spin this one, now you have jurors. For example, 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: this is on CNN. So if you want to go 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: to see what the Democrat quasi intelligenzia thinks about this 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: whole thing, you go on CNN and you see that, yes, 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: they have to report Hunter Biden guilty on all accounts, 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: because that's the obvious fact. But then they're saying the 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: juror says, the case seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars. 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: I really don't think Hunter belongs in jail. End quote. 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering. I'm just wondering. Do you think there 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: was anything like that when Trump was convicted of a 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: far more absurd, a far more absurd series of felonies, 36 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: thirty four felonies, guilty, guilty, guilty. Do you think cn 37 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: end was quoting any any experts, any juris, any anyone saying, 38 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think this was kind of a mountain 39 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: out of a molehill situation in New York. And no, 40 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: of course, not of course not that is not not 41 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: the way that is, and also the way they write 42 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: this jury concluded Hunter Biden violated laws meant to prevent 43 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: drug addicts promoting firearms. Yeah, because the jury is not 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: completely idiotic. Of course he violated this law. And as 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: I've told you, I disagree with this law. But that's 46 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: put that aside. It is the law. I think it 47 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: should be. I think it should be adjusted. I think 48 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: it should be changed in a few ways. But the 49 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: President says, I'm just going down if you want to 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: see in real time, what are the talking points here? 51 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: You know, So it's it's gonna be the Hunter. It's 52 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: you know, sad, but he's facing accountability. No one is 53 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: above the law. Blah blah. Tragedy for the Biden family 54 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: once again, Sympathy for Joe Biden, sympathy for Hunter Biden, 55 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: because what else are they gonna do? Admit that the 56 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: Biden crime family is just that, a family full of crime. 57 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean they should, but they're not going to do that. 58 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: And you have let me see. The President says he 59 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: is proud Hunter has conquered his battle against addiction, but 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: accepts the jury's guilty verdict. You also had Joe Biden 61 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: say something else? Do we have this? He was I 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: don't even know where he was, but just listening to 63 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, this is a SoundBite we have. I have 64 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: absolutely no idea what he's saying. Here. Listen, he knows, so. 65 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: Long as he was nine, our can never be secured. 66 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: What can we? 67 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: Can? We play it again? This was Joe Biden giving 68 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: a public speech. He was here. I'll find where he was. 69 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: But this guy's the commander in chief. We're supposed to 70 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: believe he's ready to go, and he's totally sharp, totally 71 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: on it. No problem here, play it again. 72 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: He knows, so long as he was nine are freedom 73 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: can never be secured? What? 74 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. That doesn't matter. Sometimes the president's 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: just got to speaking total gibberish that's unintelligible to anybody else. 76 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: That's just the way it's got to be. They tell 77 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: us this has to be your candidate. I'm sorry, this 78 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: has to be your president again for four more years, 79 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: not just the candidate. And then I want to get 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: to this. This is cut twenty seven. It's a special 81 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: counsel David Weiss his version of events here, and then 82 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: I want to give you a different perspective on Hunter's 83 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: guilty verdict. Play it. 84 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: This case was not just about addiction. 85 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: This case was about the illegal. 86 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: Choices defendant made while in the throes of addiction. Choice 87 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: to lie on a government form when he bought a gun, 88 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: and the choice to then possess that gun. It was 89 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: these choices and the combination of guns and drugs that 90 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: made his conduct dangerous. Second, no one in this country 91 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: is above the law. Everyone must be accountable for their actions, 92 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: even this defender. However, Hunter Biden should be no more 93 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: accountable than any other citizen convicted of this same conduct. 94 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: The prosecution has been and will continue to be, committed 95 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: to this principle. 96 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what does that mean? What are you going 97 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: to ask for prosecution? What do you think should happen 98 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: now that you have the conviction. I think that the 99 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: way the best put this with Hunter Biden is he's 100 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: not entirely above the law. I mean, he's mostly above 101 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: the law, but he's not entirely above the law. Ah, 102 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: you mean that he gets away with all the stuff 103 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: that would be politically damaging that they have cordoned off. 104 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: That is in a no that's a no go zone 105 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: for the prosecutors. Wait, you mean that Hunter was taking 106 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: millions of dollars from corrupt Ukrainian businessmen and from the 107 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party through corporate cutouts. He was taking tens 108 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars from these entities and getting his 109 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: dad to get on the phone to prove that he 110 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: had access to his dad. And clearly Joe Biden didn't 111 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: seem to have any problem with that. You mean to 112 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: tell me that that's there's nothing to see there. Oh, 113 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: and then he hid this, He hid that money. Why 114 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: would he hide that? Yeah, you could say just greed, 115 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: but yeah, I think it's more than that. I think 116 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: Hunter at some level realized, isn't amazing this guy? Team? 117 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: Didn't he go to Yale Law School? Am I? I 118 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: know this is a bit of a digression. Didn't Hunter 119 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: go to am I? Am I wrong on that one? 120 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: Did Hunter go to Yale Law school? Somebody? Because that 121 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: would just be too hilarious, wouldn't it. I mean, that's 122 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: part of what you see at these supposedly elite institutions. 123 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: They will take the the son or daughter of a 124 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: Democrat politician, any of them. If you are a if 125 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: your dad or mom is a famous Democrat politician, a Clinton, 126 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: A Biden and Obama, a Kennedy. Whatever. You get to 127 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: pick what undergrad institution you go to, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, 128 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, whatever, you get to pick what graduate program 129 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: you get into. And you wonder, why, well, why do 130 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: these places have to suck up like there's the political celebrities. Guys, 131 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: am I right? Didn't he go to Yeale Law School? Yes? 132 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: He did. 133 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: Yes. 134 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: Yale Law School has like a two point seven percent 135 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: admission rate. It is, by the numbers, the hardest law 136 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: school to get into in America. And the place is 137 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: a joke, a joke. If any of you have children 138 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: who went there, went there yourself, I'm sure you did 139 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: incredibly well in school and worked very very hard. But 140 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: there were a lot of people who were there who 141 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: actually weren't impressive at all. They got in four reasons 142 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: of affirmative action, which Yell is very into. They got 143 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: in for reasons of they kind of accelerated or super 144 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: special legacy, which is being a political the scion of 145 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: a political dynasty or something else. But it's then a hunter. 146 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: Biden went to Yell Law School. That's great. He's such 147 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: a brilliant jurist. Oh, Hunter Biden, this is the guy 148 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: you want answering the phone when you have a tough question. 149 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: Who's your first call if you get arrested? Hunter Biden? 150 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean, at least he could tell you what it's 151 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: like to be arrested, that's true, and probably tell you 152 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: where the best place is to get a whole lot 153 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: of illegal things too. But anyway, this is the this 154 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: is the Biden situation as it unfolds before us. They're 155 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: trying to make it about everything other than the big 156 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: issues that would cost Biden the election. I haven't even 157 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: gotten to the fact that a lot of was entirely real. 158 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: Everything on the laptop, right, this is all confirming this 159 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: verdict in part confirmed the photos on the laptop real, 160 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: the stuff on the laptop real, and right before the election, 161 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: one of the some of the most powerful media companies 162 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: on the planet, news and social media companies work to 163 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: shut it all down. They wanted they set us Russian disinformation, 164 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: and they want to tell you. They want to tell 165 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: you that they should still be able to shut things 166 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: down in this election for disinformation. Don't don't think that 167 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: they have backed off of that at all. We are 168 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: just in a new phase. Yeah, Hunter went to Georgetown 169 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: ninety two. That's funny. I think Clay's actually touring Georgetown 170 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: with his son that I got into Georgetown. I love 171 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: that school. I kind of my little brother went there. 172 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: I think that's a great, great choice for anybody. But 173 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: Yale Law that that's particularly funny. Yale Law in nineteen 174 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: ninety six, Hunter Biden oh Man. And you know, he 175 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: also does the finger paintings. Technically, I think there are 176 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: oil paintings, but I like to say finger paintings just 177 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: to mock it a little bit more. But he does 178 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: the paintings, which he sells for hundreds of thousands of dollars, 179 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: and we're not allowed to know who's buying those paintings. 180 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: That's not corrupt at all. Right, It's all just so gross. Biden, 181 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, the Biden dynasty, it's all so unseemly. They 182 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: are such unethical individuals and always have been. Never mind 183 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: Joe's brother. I'vetan get into Joe's brother yet, who's a 184 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: business partner. A lot of this stuff, but they can't 185 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: run from it this time the same way they did 186 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: last time, or suppress it this time. The same way 187 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: they did last time, So it will be more of 188 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: a challenge for them going forward. But I think you'll 189 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: see I don't think you see the poll shift at 190 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: all on this, not one bit. Isn't this amazing? If 191 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: I had told you two years years ago? I mean, 192 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: you have to put yourself in that mindset that Donald 193 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: Trump will be convicted of thirty four felonies, Joe Biden's 194 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: son will be convicted of three felonies months before the election, 195 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: and the polls would show basically no change whatsoever. I mean, 196 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: that would have been quite a thing to say, right 197 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: It would have sounded like I was insane. Here we are, 198 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: here we are. I don't know. I wonder, I'm wondering 199 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: what you think about this. Does the conviction of Hunter 200 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: Biden make it more likely that there will be a 201 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: more severe which would really just mean some kind of, 202 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, prison sentence, more severe punishment of Donald Trump? 203 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: In New York, judges can go above the guidelines and 204 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: they can decide to make an example of someone. Now, 205 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: it would be so brazen to do something like that 206 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: in New York to Donald Trump. But brazen hasn't stopped 207 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: them at all yet? Has it that they had a 208 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: I can't have what was the number, four hundred and 209 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: eighty million dollars in civil judgments against Donald Trump, four 210 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: felony trials all held to try to coincide at the 211 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: same time in the election year. I think anyone who 212 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: makes the argument that's a line they won't cross has 213 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: been wrong too many times to keep making that argument. 214 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: When it comes to the Democrats, what lines were they 215 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: not crossing? Again? So that may be a part of 216 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: this Hunter Biden conviction. That may be a component of 217 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: what we're seeing here. But for Democrats, as long as 218 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: they can wall off Joe Biden's corruption from Hunter, you know, 219 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: if he's got to go to the Big House for 220 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: a year or two, well, not going to happen, because 221 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: Dad's going to pardon him. But I'm talking about the sentence. 222 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: Even theoretically, if he got that sentence, I think they 223 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't start it within a time period that would preclude 224 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: Joe Biden from just pardoning him. So it's a crazy 225 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: This is the craziest election. I do think we should 226 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: to take a moment and go, Wow, it's June of 227 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and this is already the craziest election 228 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: cycle I think I've ever seen in my life, right, 229 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, twenty sixteen got really nuts. In 230 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty was pretty nuts. But now we're talking about 231 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: prosecuting the president, the former president, Donald Trump, and the 232 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: son of the current president, and we we're in quite 233 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: a wild world right now. 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They're Patriots. They're radio hosts giving America 262 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: one big hug, not so tight you can let go down. 263 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: Clay Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the 264 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back. 265 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: In special guest coming up in a few moments, my 266 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: friend and career intelligence professional Nathan Connastaro, who has written 267 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: a phenomenal book which I have read. I have here 268 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: for those of you who are watching on our VIP stream, 269 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: The Mighty Move World War two Pacific Theater aircraft carrier story. 270 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: I've described it to friends who I'm telling to buy 271 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: the book. It's like Moneyball, but with an aircraft carrier. 272 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: You throw together a bunch of officers out of nowhere, 273 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: a ship that had some problems in the beginning and 274 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: ends up in some of the most intense combat in 275 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: the Pacific theater for a carrier ends up in Tokyo 276 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: Bay at the surrender. Anyway, Nate's gonna tell you all 277 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: about it. But it's a great World War two book, 278 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: The Mighty Move. It's a cool name. Get it. Cowpens 279 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: Remember Uss Cowpens the Revolutionary battle where I think, wasn't 280 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: that where Tarltan it's from. It's like the mel Gibson 281 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: Mel Gibson movie The Patriot, right, Cowpens is the battle 282 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: sequence at the end where they have that British guy 283 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: who was so good as as Colonel Tarltan And uh yeah, 284 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: we'll get into all that with Nate here coming up. 285 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: But first up and get the book Mighty Move, Oh 286 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: call it. Sorry, I had to call her Tony and Michigan. 287 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: What have you got happening? Guys? 288 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: Now? It makes me wonder who's cocaine was it in 289 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: the White House? 290 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: Well, I mean there are people who had theories about 291 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: it all along. I think I think the theories have 292 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: consistently pointed in a certain direction. But you know this, well, 293 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: this White House, I don't know, and I don't think 294 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: that there. I think there's probably a fair number of 295 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: people in the White House who weren't exactly on the 296 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: straight and narrow. Thanks for calling in, Tony, but a 297 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: fair point about how the most secure building in the 298 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: world someone just leaves cocaine in a baggie and we 299 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: can't we don't. Maybe it's not the most secure building 300 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: in the world, but you know what I mean, it's 301 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: a pretty important building. It's the White House. We don't 302 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: know who left it. I had no idea, no interest 303 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: in fighting out apparently either. Well, turns out some people 304 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: have theories about it. Yeah, you know it. 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Donate eleven dollars a 330 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 1: month the Tunnel to Towers at T two t dot org. 331 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: That's t the number two T dot org. Welcome back here, everybody. 332 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: Very please to have joining us a dear friend of 333 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: mine for twenty year from my time back in the government. 334 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: Nathan Kinnastero is with this. He is currently on assignment 335 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: to the National Intelligence Council. Twenty five years experience writing 336 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: about military operations for policymakers in the US government. His 337 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: book is The Mighty Move, which I have for you 338 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: who can see it on the video live stream here 339 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: The Mighty Move. Nate, my man. Great to have you 340 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: on and congratulations of the book. I read it. It's fantastic. 341 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 4: Well, thanks, Buck, I really do appreciate the opportunity to 342 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 4: be here. I'm glad you glad you enjoyed the book. 343 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Tell me about what led you to write about the Mood, 344 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: you know, because it's funny. My grandfather, we actually have 345 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: some calls just so you know, Nate, we're not going 346 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: able to get you right now. We already have people 347 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: who have relatives who served on the Move who are 348 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: calling in just so you know. So that's fantastic. Yeah, 349 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: they're excited about this book. My grandfather served on the Batan, 350 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: one of these LVC carriers write these converted carriers tell 351 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: people about the origin of the Mighty Move. 352 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: Sure. 353 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I got started looking into the Mighty 354 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 4: Movie because my grandfather served aboard, and you know, he was, 355 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: like a lot of men of his generation, he just 356 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: he didn't want to talk about the war, but he 357 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 4: would just sort of hints at some of the things 358 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: that had happened to him. Obviously, you know, he'd seen 359 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 4: some action and there'd been some trauma there. 360 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: But for a guy like me. 361 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 4: Who's interested in military history and he grew up with 362 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: band of brothers and you know, saving Private Ryan, the 363 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 4: idea that there was a story here that you know, 364 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: he wasn't telling me was kind of catnip and I 365 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 4: really wanted to look into it. So when he died 366 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 4: in twenty ten, I started, you know, sort of pulling 367 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 4: on that thread. And the story that I found was 368 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 4: I just kind of blew my mind, you know it 369 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 4: It was a ship that the Navy didn't want, with 370 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: a captain who was nearly scapegoaded for loss of his 371 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 4: last command, that the crew had been in uniform barely 372 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: longer than the ship had been afloat, the pilots self 373 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: trained on the planes they'd fly into battle. And you know, 374 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: her first few months in service, she had this terrible jinks, 375 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 4: this awful streak of bad luck. And yet despite that, 376 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 4: the ship that nobody expected that much from U went 377 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 4: on to a sort of earned a tremendous combat record, 378 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: survived a terrible typhoon, and ended up the only US 379 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 4: aircraft carrier in Tokyo Bay to see the Japanese surrender. 380 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 4: So it's it's it's quite an underdog story, you know. 381 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: I remember my grandfather toward the end. He passed passed 382 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: away about a decade ago, but I remember one of 383 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: the only he spoke about being in a typhoon. Once again, 384 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: this was on the Batan, not the move, but also 385 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: the only time I ever talked, I ever heard him 386 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: really talk about combat. And Nate, it just he was 387 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: he was in a wheelchair, he had a blanket and 388 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: you'll know this blanket that I got from Afghanistan, which 389 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: he always kind of treasured across his knees, you know. 390 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: And he started talking about combat in Leity Gulf, and 391 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: I know that, And and the Japanese swooping in and 392 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: trying to take out the carriers cowpens or the move 393 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: rather mighty move was that latey? 394 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And the same typhoon. You know, that was 395 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: what my grandfather spoke about. He wouldn't talk about the combat. 396 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 4: But you know, actually all the veterans I've talked to, 397 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 4: they were remaining from the move, they all said the 398 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 4: same thing. The typhoon just was the most terrifying bit 399 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 4: of their time aboard. You know, the ships were narrow, 400 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 4: they're tall, They've got a high center of gravity, so 401 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 4: they're tippy. You know, they didn't do well in high seas. 402 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 4: And you're going into a storm with seventy to ninety 403 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 4: foot waves and winds of one hundred to one hundred 404 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 4: and twenty knots, and the ship is rolling forty five 405 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 4: degrees to either side. You know, the edge of the 406 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 4: flight deck is going into the ocean. You know, this 407 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: is the flight deck is seventy feet above the water 408 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: and normal seas the guys in the bridge could actually 409 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 4: reach out and touch the waves they were rolling so badly. 410 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 4: And then down in the magazine, you know, they were 411 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: stocked with bombs to support the you know, the air 412 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: support for the fighting in Layte, and the bombs broke loose, 413 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 4: so you've got five hundred two thousand pound bumps. 414 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: Rolling back and forth across the floor. 415 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: And the crew had to rush into the magazine with 416 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 4: rope and try and lash these things into place. So 417 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 4: absolutely terrifying experience and the closest of close calls and 418 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 4: three destroyers capsized in that storm, killed almost eight hundred guys. 419 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 4: I mean, this is we talket We think about the combat, 420 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 4: you know, Layte golf, but the storm was really something. 421 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting. You know, I was thinking about 422 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: how how you could pitch this Nate for the eventual series, 423 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, Kerrie and I you know, you know, carry 424 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: my wife where We've decided we're going to go back 425 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: and give Masters of the Air another chance after having 426 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: a couple of week episodes. But you know, the aerial 427 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: combat stuff I think is very well done in it. 428 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: But if we if we were pitching Mighty Mood to 429 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: a studio. I would say you could take it to 430 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: a couple directions. One it's you know, it's a little 431 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: bit like Band of Brothers, but you know on a 432 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: on an aircraft carry in the Pacific, that's one way 433 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: to go. Or it's like Moneyball, but US Navy World 434 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: War Two. Because this ship wasn't supposed to be much 435 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: of anything, there were questions about it even seeing any action. 436 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you know, these to be perfectly blunt, these 437 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: guys were second stringers. You know, if you were a 438 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 4: Naval Academy grad, if you were you know, a professional sailor, 439 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: you're going to say, you know, one of the best 440 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: of the best, you're gonna be on one of the 441 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: big carriers. So, you know, Captain McConnell the first, the 442 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 4: ship's first captain, seventy percent of the guys who went 443 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: aboard his boat in ship in forty three had never 444 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: been to sea at all. So he had this green 445 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 4: mob of people who you know, most of these guys were. 446 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 4: The crew was seventeen or eighteen years old, the pilots 447 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: were twenty one to twenty three. They did total newbies 448 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 4: to the Navy, and he had to make an effective 449 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 4: wartime team out of it and did a really good 450 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 4: job in a remarkably short period of time. So, and 451 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: I think that's one of the things that I found 452 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: neatest about this story was, you know how it's almost 453 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: a coming of a you know, You've got these guys 454 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 4: that never never, not much as expected of them, and 455 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: yet they sort of grew into this role and had 456 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: this tremendous opportunity to make a difference there in the 457 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 4: Pacific War. 458 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know when I was reading it, just 459 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: the detail you go into everything from you know how 460 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: they entertain themselves on ship to the food. You know, 461 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: where was the food good? Where was the food bad? 462 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you really feel like you get a deep 463 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: dive into what it would be like to have been 464 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: on a carrier in the Pacific in the Second World War. So, Nate, congratulations, 465 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: My friend Nathan kind of sparrow your great book. Here. 466 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: The Mighty Move is the title. It's a fun title 467 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: story of the USS cowpens in the Pacific theater. Where 468 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: should people just go? Is there a website specifically you 469 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: want them to go to, or you know, Amazon, you 470 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: just want people to get the book anywhere? What do 471 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: you want to tell the folks. 472 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's widely available. You can get on Amazon, Barnes 473 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 4: and Noble, Walmart, Target, wherever wherever books are sold, it 474 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 4: should be there. So I really appreciate your support. And 475 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: you know, with Father's Day coming up, I mean, my 476 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 4: dad likes World War two history, but it was you know, 477 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 4: it's a great opportunity for me to sort of on 478 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 4: this Father's Day pay tribute to my granddad and a 479 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 4: lot of other men like him who did their bit, 480 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: you know, when their country needed. 481 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: Them the most. 482 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: Well, you know Carrie's granddad who's a vice admiral. I'm 483 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: gonna need you to get a signed copye to him. Okay, 484 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: so we'll take care of that absolutely, all right, mighty mow, 485 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: everybody get your copy. Nate, congrats man, great to talk 486 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: to you. Thanks so much, Thanks Buck, take care. Yeah, 487 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: and honestly, really really good book. You see it here 488 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: on the stream, you'll really enjoy it. I will take 489 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: some of your calls here momentarily to close us out. 490 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: The CEO of very successful company recently chose to reduce 491 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: his salary to a dollar a year in favor of 492 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: receiving a new and better way to be paid. He's 493 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: the same CEO that I've known for a long time personally, 494 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: Porter Stansbury. But why would a guy make such a 495 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty degree urn when it comes to 496 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: his own compensation. Porter did it because he's found a 497 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: much better way to save and get paid. Porter explains, 498 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: there's essentially a new form of money in America, and 499 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: it's making some people wildly rich. Most of the richest 500 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: people in America use it, and you can too. But 501 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 1: it's not gold or bitcoin. Porter points out. What's interesting 502 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: is that while every American is legally entitled to use 503 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: the secret currency, few know much about it. But now 504 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: Porter is hoping to change that. It's critical to understand 505 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: how America's new money works. He believed it's the most 506 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: critical way to protect and grow wealth in the years 507 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: to come as the dollar collapse continues. Check out Porter's 508 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: latest detailed presentation online at Secret Currency twenty twenty four 509 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: dot com. Secret Currency twenty twenty four dot com. Twenty 510 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: four on you podcast from Clay and Buck covering all 511 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: things Election. Episodes drop Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it 512 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 513 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: Really hope you can get a copy of The Mighty Move. 514 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: Remember we also have it linked up at Clayandbuck dot com. 515 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: The story of the USS Cowpens in World War Two. 516 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, like I said, Nate was my mentor twenty 517 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: years ago. He's been a dear friend ever since. Brilliant 518 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: guy has written a great book. It's a really good read. 519 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: If I mean, if you like World War two history, 520 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: you're just gonna love this book. So we haven't linked 521 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: up at Clanbuck dot com. H Gary and Jacksonville, Florida. 522 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: You want to talk about about the situation, my friend? 523 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: What's going on? 524 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: Hi? Buck, love your show man. 525 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. 526 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: I just wanted to thank you for putting this out there. 527 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 3: I ordered the book, pre ordered it. Actually, uh, my 528 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 3: dad was a plank owner on that ship and gunner's mate, 529 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: and he survived the uh he survived the typhoon also, 530 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: and like like the author said, he was below decks 531 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: trying to find it secure all those bombs that were 532 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 3: rolling around the stuff. 533 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, my my like my grandfather was on the Batan. 534 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: He was an officer on the Batan and uh so 535 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: he was there at Leta as well. And I mentioned this, 536 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: but he he also just like it was this. This 537 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: is what really struck me when I was reading the 538 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: introduction of Night's book. He really just was talking to 539 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: his grandfather about the war. And you know, Nate's been 540 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: in the government and been to his fair share of 541 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: hotspots too, and uh, you know when he was trying 542 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: to talk to him as the same with my grandfather, 543 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: he just never he always wanted to talk about the 544 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: Catholic charities that he worked with later in life, and 545 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: that he didn't want to talk about the war. But 546 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: then when he got much older, it just kind of 547 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: came out a couple of times and he talked about 548 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: the kamikazeis and he's Timmembery. He told me he didn't 549 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: sleep for a week. Uh, he just didn't sleep for 550 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: a week during late Ta Golf. So you know, a 551 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: period of history which is still the I believe, the 552 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: biggest nation, and your grandfather was there as well, the 553 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: biggest naval engagement in history I believe is still considered 554 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: to be lete golf. Yeah, yeah, oh, I'm sorry your dad, 555 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: you're dad. Yeah yeah, I was gonna say, well, thank 556 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: your dad for his service, and also, uh, I hope 557 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: you really enjoyed the book, Gary, so thank you so 558 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: much for calling in. And we have just you know, 559 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: Biden was talking just now about the Biden was talking 560 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: about well, we thought he was gonna talk about Hunter 561 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: and the gun conviction, and he ended up he's still talking. 562 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: Oh he's still talking. Oh boy. And so far we're 563 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: monitoring this. I didn't want to make you you know, 564 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: you don't listen to the show to hear Biden give 565 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: cant speeches, right, So we're monitoring it live in real time. 566 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: Now it's been mostly him just talking about guns and 567 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: gun safety, which I don't think Hunter's a you know, 568 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: I got to go to for gun safety. But anyway, 569 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: get based on some of those videos or a photo, 570 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: well videos, photos, whatever he has on the laptop. But 571 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're just gonna make this about sympathy 572 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: and and what's amazing to me is it's you know, Biden. 573 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: People forget this. I think Biden has been advocating for 574 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: these kinds of laws around around firearms. And I'm just 575 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: telling you this, Democrats like criminal. Let me see he's talking. 576 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: Hold on a second, I'm just making sure he's talking 577 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: to the group. Mom's demand action for gun sense in America. God, 578 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: Democrats like criminalizing gun possession in as many ways as 579 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: they can, right. They like doing that because it's a way, 580 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: it's an end run on the Second Amendment. It's a 581 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: means of making it harder, more risky even to own 582 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: a firearm in America. So they're always there is no 583 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: criminal gun law really that Democrats aren't going to be, 584 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, criminalization of gun ownership that Democrats generally aren't 585 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: going to be in favor for a favor of. And 586 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't even might say, oh, buck, what about all 587 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: the people in cities who are minorities and disproportionately you know, 588 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: young black men who are arrested with firearms. Well, they'll 589 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: just then they control the prosecutor's offices. Right, So in 590 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: a place like Philadelphia, this is real. I think it 591 00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: was two years ago Krasner's Philadelphia that or rather brought 592 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: only half of felon possession gun charges to Tronto. They 593 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: dismissed half of that's felon in possession. And it's going 594 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: to be mostly people who are convicted of serious drug 595 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: and serious you know, violent felonies in the context of 596 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia. But they just thought it had a disproportionate 597 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: impact on the you know, male minority community in Philadelphia, 598 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: so they just ignore it. But if you are you know, 599 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: some guy who you know works for like Mutual of Omaha, 600 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: or you know Kaiser Permanente, or you work on Wall 601 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: Street or something, and you cross, you know, are you 602 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: you have a shotgun that's not registered in the state 603 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: of New York. They don't want to lock you up 604 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: for that one. You might take your twenty gauge for 605 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: sporting plays and go rob a liquor store with it. 606 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean, this is so Biden's in favor of the 607 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: very kind, the very gun law, the specific gun law 608 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: that has been used against his son here. And Biden 609 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: is going to continue to want this because it's a 610 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: way that the anti gun, that the gun grabbers effectively 611 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: can harass you. And they get to determine, just like 612 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: everything else, when it comes to the criminal law, they 613 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: get to determine who the law is held. You know, 614 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: who the law is used against and who it's not. 615 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: And if you have Soros prosecutors, the you know, the 616 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: father of four you know, in a stable marriage, working 617 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: paying taxes and everything, who gets jammed up by some technicality. 618 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: You mean, like what buck, Oh, I don't know. New 619 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: York used to arrest people, this is true, arrest people 620 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: who were on a flight diverted to New York by weather, 621 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: had to take their checked firearm. Totally legal to check 622 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: your farm, bring it with you, take their check farm, 623 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: went to recheck it in because their flight was canceled 624 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: or you know, they had to get on a new flight. 625 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: New York has this is true, had arrested people for that, 626 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: arrested them. So those are the kind of gun laws 627 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: that the Democrats like, vague ensnaring people for no real 628 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: criminal conduct whatsoever. 629 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: Uh. 630 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: And even if it gets people who are real criminals, 631 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, gang bangers who are hurting people and you know, 632 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: running drug rings and killing people over n over, you know, territory. 633 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: That's that's the kind of thing that you know they want. 634 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: That was the kind of laws. All right. So I 635 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: want to switch gears for a second because I want 636 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: to start something here late late in the show, as 637 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm solo and clayke and wigh into Clays. You know, 638 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: he's just out with his with his son, his oldest boy, 639 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: looking at colleges today. I'll be back with us tomorrow. 640 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: Uh the and I'm sure he's gonna want to weigh 641 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: and heavily on the on the Hunter conviction. But this 642 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: is one where I know some of you are gonna 643 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: get fired up at me. Washington Post a restaurant wanting 644 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: a grown and sexy vibe, bans diners under thirty. This 645 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: is I don't know this was even a thing. The 646 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: age restrictured recording the posters has polarized customers. So wait, 647 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: where is does this just open its doors in May? 648 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: They have a Caribbean restaurant outside Saint Louis and they 649 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: want an upscale vibe, so they say that you have 650 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: to be over thirty to dine there. Now, I can't 651 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: get on board with the over thirty to dine somewhere. 652 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say that that to me is like 653 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: what I do think that restaurants having this is where 654 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: people get mad at me. You know, no one under 655 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: the no one under the age of you can be 656 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: told to be quiet, and you're expected to be quiet 657 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: during certain hours. I am sorry, but when someone is 658 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: paying on clearly and you know, for an adult date night, 659 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: romantic experience at a fine dining restaurant at eight o'clock 660 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: on a Saturday. The little bundle of joy that some 661 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: people bring in there that is screaming and wail and 662 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: spitting up. Get a babysitter. Oh, I know, people get sold. 663 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 3: Oh. 664 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: I was saying, you can afford to die at the 665 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: fancy restaurant, but the babysitter is too much, too pricey. 666 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: I don't think so. So I agree with age restrictions 667 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: on restaurants for certain hours. Brunch. I'm just gonna brunch 668 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: as a free for all. You know, I can't. I 669 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: can't pretend that that's well, we're gonna win. But yeah, 670 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: I think from like seven to you know, seven pm 671 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: to close Friday and Saturday night, fine dining restaurants should 672 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: have a you know, no one under twelve or no one, 673 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, no one under eight. I don't know. They 674 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: can figure it out. But you gotta have time for 675 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: mommy and daddy or you know, the people on a 676 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: date or whatever to not have to worry about, you know, 677 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: toddler toys flying over their shoulder at them. I'm just saying, 678 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: I just speak the truth.