1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You can watch the original episode we'll be discussing in 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: every other episode of HBO's Curby Your Enthusiasm, including the 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: new and final season, on Max. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: You can also watch. 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: The video version of the history of Curby Your Enthusiasm 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: podcast on Max and YouTube, as well. 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Links available in the episode description. 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Jeff Garland. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: I'm Susie Asman. 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: We are now going to do season one, Episode one, 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: which is the first time the theme song was played. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: Was played? 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: Yes, it was not played in the hour pilot. 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: And it was missed. 15 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: You hear that done and you immediately get into the head. 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: I have to tell you myself, I was in love 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: with it from the second I heard it. 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: So, you know, maybe we could just quickly tell the 19 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: story of how Larry found it. 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: Yes, a few years prior to this, he heard it. 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: It was like a it's called Frolic written by an 22 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Italian composer, and he heard it. 23 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: It was on some bank commercial. 24 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Yes, and he said to Laura, who was his assistant 25 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: at the time currently r EP find me that song, 26 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: and she did. She tracked it down and then he 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: chose to use it. And this is prior to even 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: thinking about it. 29 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: Well, no, No, the Internet existed at this time, but 30 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 3: it was not what it is now, So there's still 31 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: quite a bit of work in finding something like that. 32 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: Really a bank commercial in the song Frolic. Now, you 33 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: put those two things in a search in a Google 34 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: and it probably comes up. Might not like if you 35 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: put in Pirates of the Caribbean and lotion, what would 36 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: come up? 37 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: Copper tone? 38 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: By the way, you're close. 39 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: So this first episode is called The Pants Ten. 40 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: Yes, what I noticed is there is some interstitial music, 41 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: but not as much as there came to me. 42 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: And only one of them do we continue to use. 43 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: It's the one that. 44 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: You do yea, which is my favorite one. And this 45 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: is two thousand that we shot this, I believe. I 46 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: believe it was the winter two thousands. And it's called 47 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: the Pants Tent. And you know, right up front, this 48 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: is such a typical Larry the pants tent. You know, 49 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: that's such a typical thing that he would notice. And 50 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: it's about his pants that are just too well, no. 51 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: Everyone notices every guy who's ever wore a pair of khakis, 52 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: especially with plats. Yeah, there's there's a it goes up, 53 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: and I know, comedically, I've always thought if I sit down. 54 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: Someone's gonna think I. 55 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: Have an erection that never would have occurred to me. 56 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: I guarantee somebody's done that in their stand up and 57 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: it didn't work, just my gut feeling because it's not 58 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: that funny unless you're watching it. 59 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's a it's a visual yea. 60 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 3: It only works as a visual And yeah, so Larry 61 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: took it to a visual place. 62 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: And this is the first episode. 63 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: I'm we'll get to you when we get to you. 64 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I. 65 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: Don't rush, we're here, We're gonna get to you. So 66 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: I want to talk about the pants tent thing, which 67 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: is okay, this is one of those things that we've 68 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: done a million times. Was just the minutia. Larry likes 69 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: no noticing the minutia and then taking it in a 70 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: place where you don't expect. So when you see him 71 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: playing with his pants at the beginning, you don't have 72 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: a clue of which I bet this. I bet that, No, 73 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: you can't bet. You don't know. Yes, Cheryl's friend, you know, 74 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: is gonna rub his arm. And also, by the way, 75 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: early on we see Larry's first annoying face, and that 76 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 3: is when Cheryl hands him the phone. He's bewildered and annoyed. 77 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: Cheryl won't go to the movies. 78 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: Her girlfriend's. 79 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: Roys rose In Roseanne rose In. Yeah, yes, who was 80 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: at the time married to Mike Myers. But I don't 81 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: think anymore. 82 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: Well, no, no, no, she's not. She's actually a lot 83 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: I wrote it down other places just to mention her, 84 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: but we already did. Yeah, and she's lovely and she 85 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: was great, she was fast episode. Yeah. So when she 86 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: hands him the phone, I'm watching and feeling the frustration 87 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: and the embarrassment of which grows later. What he is, 88 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: he's like upping the anti. So at this point he's 89 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: pissed he has to go with her. What does he 90 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: say to her? And then he's meeting her at the movie. 91 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: Which I find, by the way, a little. 92 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: Bizarre by that she's meeting um there. 93 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Well, no, I would never say to my husband, go 94 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: with my girlfriend to the movies. 95 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: Well, yes, I'm trying to think if my wife of 96 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: your ever said that to me, And I think my 97 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: wife of your always felt better when I was attending 98 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: something with someone. 99 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: That's part of her accountability. 100 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: But that could also be a man or a woman, right, 101 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: and she would be joyful, like if I was going 102 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: to Chicago, where I'm from. The more time I spent 103 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: with her family, the happier she was, even though she 104 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: didn't say anything otherwise. So I think this is not 105 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: that unusual for a wife to say her best friend 106 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: with Larry she knows nothing's going on. 107 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I know, I know, but to volunteer him 108 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: that way. But then there's the storyline, so whatever, take 109 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: a step. 110 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: Back from that. There is this storyline, but whatever. One 111 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: of my problems with being involved in other projects is 112 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: they're never truthful to the truth. They never do things 113 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: in a realistic form. And I'll talk about it with 114 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: them or examine that and they'll tell me I'm thinking 115 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: too much. I've gotten that on many sitcoms. Don't logic 116 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: me up. I've actually gotten that phrase said to me, 117 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: now you want to nitpick this, and that he wouldn't 118 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 3: turn his head in that direction. And by the way, 119 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: on Curb, we even say those things about the way 120 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: someone looks at someone. But people would get angry at 121 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 3: me when I would do that, and so on this show, 122 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 3: you said you wouldn't, but I think someone might do that. 123 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't completely out of you know the realm of possibility. 124 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 3: It's just no, and it was closer than the realm. 125 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 3: Don't realm me out, suck. Accept that it struck you 126 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: as out, but don't go to realms. Let's keep going. 127 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: So the other thing that's set up in this episode 128 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: is Larry's issues with Lewis's girlfriends, which happens a lot. 129 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this was the first one. The first one who, 130 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 3: by the way, I had seen her on the Sopranos. 131 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: Beautifully beautiful girl, just perfect for the role because she 132 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: was angry yet beautiful. We used there a couple of times, 133 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: two or three times because she was a great foil 134 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: for Larry as well as But he's. 135 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: But correcting that there seems to always be issues with 136 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: Lewis's girlfriend. 137 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: Which is always funny. 138 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: Always Hillarry is funny. 139 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: Now, I want to say the first scene after that, 140 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: when he's driving in his car to the movies, is 141 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: the first time I'm introduced in the series. I'm on 142 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: the you're on the phone on the speaker phone, and we're. 143 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: Talking faux pa by the way, to not tell somebody 144 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: that they're on speech by. 145 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: The way, And I'm not telling Jeff Garland because I 146 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: would never do that, but Jeff Green jueless, clueless. Of 147 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: course he's going to do that. And that's not out 148 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 3: of the realm. That is big bowl up in the realm. 149 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: That's a target of him being an idiot. And as 150 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: soon as Larry says, I'll check with Hitler or something, you. 151 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: Know, Hitler, he's referring to his wife's being Yeah. 152 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: Basically, what happens is he calls me. We're talking, and 153 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: then he asked me a question. He says, I'll ask you. 154 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: I have to ask permission of Hitler, which is an 155 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: extreme and I hate when Jews do the extreme. He 156 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: did it for the joke, but people do it. I 157 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: don't think Larry David would ever use that reference. But 158 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: he said. And then the characters played by Louis nine 159 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: and Minor Colb, which I'll get into a minute, Hitler, Hitler. 160 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: You know, they're screaming because they're in the car, and 161 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: he's very upset, very upset, which ultimately ends up getting 162 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: him in a lot more. 163 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: Well, the entire episode is about him apologizing NonStop to everybody, 164 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: which many episodes are. 165 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so now comes the first funny thing, and this 166 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: is not something if we played a clip. We cannot 167 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: this would not be funny because you one hear it. 168 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: But the movie theater where he's at says the name 169 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: of the movie. It is pre digital expertise. In other words, 170 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: it looks like someone put one of those tape things 171 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: you used. 172 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: To, yeah, the tape guns, the label makers. 173 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: Label makers. It looked like someone digitally label maker in 174 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: the thing outside to say what was playing with the 175 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: flashing lights? 176 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah thing, It looks so bad. I didn't even notice it. 177 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: Oh, I burst out laughing. And it was horrible, horrible. 178 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: What was it? 179 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: I don't remember the name of the movie. He saw 180 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: a specific name of the movie, and it just it 181 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: looked horrible. All I want to say is, you know, 182 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: if that happened nowadays, I couldn't watch the rest of 183 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: the episode. I'd be obsessed. 184 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: But because our expectations just completely change. Is technology? Yeah, 185 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: because it's rock When we used to when they used 186 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: to watch old kinescopes, it seemed normal to them. 187 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: Right, I love old kinescopes. Did you know the third 188 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: of Curb You might not have known this all kinescopes. Yeah, 189 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: we went for a time machine. By the way, the 190 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: pauses are we got notes. I have ADHD, But what 191 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: do you have? What's your excuse for using notes? I 192 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: am old, she's old. I'm old, and I have ADHD. Therefore, 193 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: we watch these we have to make notes. 194 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: We have to make noteses one hundred and But there. 195 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: Are people who have a skill set they can do that. Yeah, 196 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: by the way, young Jeff, I'm like twenties. I could 197 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 3: have remembered every beat of the episode and every thought 198 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: I had. Really, now it's sixty, don't have a fucking clue. 199 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: All right, let's see here. 200 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: So the thing to me that was I mean, and 201 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: I definitely want to get to your pa. 202 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: You were right, by the way, in terms of Larry 203 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: and his uncomfort with all of Richard's girlfriends, and it 204 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: creates so many problems. But you know what else stood 205 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: out to me? How handsome was Richard Lewis? 206 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I noticed that. 207 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: Too, Damn I luxurious hair. I thought, Oh, and that 208 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: guy was playing Carnegie Hall, big comedian. I thought, wow, 209 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: he had to have lived a life, I know, a 210 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 3: little more than he wanted to visa the you know, 211 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: alcohol and drug abuse. Well he actually and by the way, 212 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: I say that with full permission, but by the way, 213 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 3: you could say to him when we weren't rolling at 214 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: any time, and I love to do this, Hey, Richard, 215 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: how long you been sober? He could tell you. 216 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: To the door, he says. 217 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: The two things Richard likes to say all the time 218 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: is that he's been sober for X number of years. 219 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, and that he sold 220 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: out Carnegie Hall in nineteen eighty nine, by the way 221 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: he do that. 222 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: Those are two of the big ones. And by the way, 223 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 3: this is what's beautiful. Also, I can pretend like I 224 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 3: didn't know that information, even though he's told it to 225 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: me one on one a minimum of a dozen times. 226 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 3: I can go in the same conversation, wait, did you 227 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: ever play Carnegie Hall? And I'll tell you, and I'll 228 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: tell you the date's proud of that very much. So 229 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 3: I'm never playing Carnegie Hall unless the show becomes popular 230 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: and you and I are sitting on a stage together. 231 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: And then the other thing, same conversation, I'll go, you're sober? Right? 232 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: How long? And he would do it all the time, 233 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: and I loved. 234 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: It, and he's very proud of that because he worked 235 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: very hard at it. 236 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 3: Well, both of them. Yes, I'm not making fun of him, but. 237 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm making it the other the part where so Larry is, 238 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, trying to get through the aisle and he 239 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: passes what was her name, Sophia? 240 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 3: What was her name? 241 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: Sophia? 242 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: He passes Sofia, who's Richard's girlfriend, who won't move her legs, 243 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: and she very angrily accuses him of looking at her breasts. 244 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: And do you know what he replies, you wear that 245 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 3: dress because you want people to look at his shoes. Right. 246 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: What's always funny is the discovery with Larry because he 247 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: has before and since done these things where he's done 248 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: something bad. 249 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: To Richard's girlfriend, and then his girlfriend he likes her 250 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: a lot. 251 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 3: Anyhow, what was amazing to me, which we would never 252 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: do now, and this is not even of its time, 253 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: We allowed the flashing lights of the sign above to 254 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: be going in every direction, so it's like watching people 255 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 3: in a disco at night having a conversation with all 256 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: the flashing nights, and the disco ball would be right 257 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: above them. It was so distracting and unsettling. 258 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think stylistically the show was just finding itself. 259 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: This was the first I agree, but still I look 260 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: back and I go Wow, that sucked. 261 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also the technology has changed. 262 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: What technology could we do to stop flashing lights? 263 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: Turn them off? Now we have switches. 264 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: Well, by the way, what did they have back? Then 265 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 4: you're going to crank them off? 266 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. Stay tuned, and we're back. 267 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: So there's that whole interaction at the theater, and then 268 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: he's upset because he has this fight with this woman 269 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: who he doesn't know who she is, who we find 270 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: out later as Lewis's girlfriend. 271 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: And Cheryl's friend. 272 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: Nancy, to calm Larry down, starts just gently rubbing him. 273 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: They're not even outside. Then my mistake for jumping passes 274 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 3: with his popcorn. He sits down next door. He complains 275 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: about it. She can see he's upset, rubs his arm, and, 276 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: by the way, may I add a little extra rubbing there? 277 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: Little extra rubbing? 278 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think because a couple of pats. That's pleasant. 279 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: She went for. I'm trying to give you an erection. 280 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: Let's make out now before this. 281 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: Do men get erections from rubbing their arm? 282 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: Can I be honest with you? Yeah, those who are 283 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: lucky enough surely do. 284 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Larry did not get an erection, but he assumed 285 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: that he did because his pants. 286 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 3: Which leads to something insane that we'll talk about shortly. 287 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: Go ahead, no, wait, wait, it'll come. 288 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: Okay when it comes, and all of that goes down. 289 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: But he did not have an erection. 290 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: Of course not. 291 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: She just assumes. 292 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: So okay. So if you're going out to a movie 293 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: with a friend of your wives or a female friend 294 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: of yourself that is not romantic, and you're involved with 295 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: somebody else and someone rubs your arm, even in a 296 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: sexual way, more than let's say, half a dozen times, 297 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: you'd either say something or force your brain to not 298 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: get an erection, because you can, you can force it 299 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: down like, Nope, this is not you don't want to insult. No, 300 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: by the way, I'm not saying it's a date and 301 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: you're single in their single right. 302 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: No, it's a situation that much close to your. 303 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: Wife or it's a friend of yours. You know you'd go, 304 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get involved in this, but you know so, 305 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: so when I said definitely to him, by the way 306 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: of those of you listening to the show, I'm going 307 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: off on a lot of tangents and I want to apologize. 308 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: We'll see where that goes and maybe part of the 309 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: show I don't know, but as of now, a lot 310 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: of tangents so far, we'll see keep going. 311 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: So that's all done. They go outside, he sees Lewis. 312 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: He finds out that this woman is Lewis, his girlfriend. 313 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: They supposed to have dinner the following weekend. He's like, 314 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm not having dinner with them, right, no way. 315 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: Well that's when the next thing. He goes home and 316 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: says to Cheryl, we're supposed to have dinner, but that's 317 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: not him. 318 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: That's not happening, and he tells Cheryl about He very 319 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: smartly tells Cheryl that her friend Nancy thought he had. 320 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: In direction, by the way, you have to do that. 321 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: But he neglected to tell her that she was rubbing 322 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: his arm, right, which. 323 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: Is an important thing. 324 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: I'm jumping ahead. But the next episode, which is about 325 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: episode two, I have something to say about that. They 326 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: explaining yes, okay, all. 327 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: Right, I know where you're going. 328 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: I know the whole episode is about apologies, and then 329 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: comes back the whole issue with your parents and him 330 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: saying sorry on the machine, right, and Cheryl wanting to 331 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: know why he said he was sorry, And that's again 332 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: he's digging a hole, digging a hole, digging in the hole. 333 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: Well, there were three things that pile up, and they're 334 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: all of his own doing. Now, a lot of times 335 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: on the show, my character is responsible for him digging 336 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: a hole because he gives him advice, but also when 337 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: he tries to help me with you a stickler. I'm 338 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: in everything everyone does on this show that is not 339 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: Larry or I. It has no effect on them. Whatever 340 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: they do. If Larry or I are involved, and obviously together, 341 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: it's digging bigger holes after bigger holes. Basically, I'm attached 342 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: to Larry's trouble ninety percent of the time and. 343 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: Ninety percent of the time that you're in trouble with 344 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: either me or Cheryl. 345 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, obviously more so me with you, although 346 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: I think ye. I'm saying you split it up nicely. 347 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: You know, early on, as we talked about in the 348 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: first episode Cheryl and I, she didn't like me. I 349 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: was trying to work through that my client's wife, you know, 350 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: but she did not like me. The character I'm talking about, 351 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: Cheryl Hines, loved me from the get go. And I 352 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: say that in a gentle one. 353 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: Now, was there a discussion when you started doing the 354 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: series that you're going to change that dynamic. 355 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, Larry made that decision as he was writing 356 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: the episode, So. 357 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: He made that. That was a conscious decision. 358 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: Conscious decision, and HBO that was one of the only 359 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: notes they had. We liked the conflict, he says, I 360 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 3: don't want to do that. And by the way, I 361 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: don't know if this was the last season of it 362 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: or the second season was this season. He had not 363 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 3: finished all the outlines when the season started, so it 364 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: was a lot of work for him to go back 365 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: to the office when we weren't shooting and write the outline. 366 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 3: See now when we go to work, as you know, 367 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 3: before we even show up, we've read all ten episodes 368 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: and they changed very little. 369 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: But you and Cheryl in the show, Jeff Green and 370 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: Cheryl David, I don't remember that there's anytime that you're 371 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: ever really close. 372 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: This is just not coming. 373 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: But we're very cope, steadic. 374 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're fine. 375 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: I mean I think that we even get to a 376 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: point where she just accepts me like Larry's. 377 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: Arm right, right, you know what I mean, Like you know, 378 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: because they're here. 379 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: I have no problems with it. But even then I 380 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: think she got mad at me. Maybe once during the 381 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 3: season her toy. She's kicked me out of the house before. 382 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: I remember for yeah, I remember what all I'll discover 383 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: when we watch Yeah, I remember, and let me also 384 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 1: had this. 385 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: I watch these with my girlfriend Sari, and it's fun 386 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: to see it through. 387 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 2: Her somebody else's eyes. Yeah, I don't. 388 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: Talk too much when we watch things. But other than that, 389 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: fun to watch it through her up it is because 390 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: I have to pause a lot because of her, So 391 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm not really just absorbing, but I pause a lot 392 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 3: because I want to write something down. But bonus for her, 393 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: all right. 394 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: So it's a mistake after mistake alienation one after the other. 395 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: The Hitler thing. 396 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: Lewis confronts him, my son down, there's a possibly gonna 397 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: come to me, that's right. He comes up with it, 398 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: and then Larry has to come to our house to 399 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: apologize to your parents for the Hitler thing. But in 400 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: the interim he has left a message saying he's sorry, 401 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: and so he has a conflict with Cheryl. So it's 402 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: all very, you know, very interwoven. Yes, So let's talk 403 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: about Louis and Mina. 404 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: No, let's talk about what happens before Louis and Mina. 405 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 3: That's more important. 406 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 407 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: Larry walks in the house. What's the first thing he sees? 408 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: I don't know you? Oh me, Yes, the first thing 409 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: he sees. 410 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 3: Your introduction into the show. What are you sewing? So 411 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 3: the fact you were lost on it is a bonus. 412 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: Well, I don't remember you know what you are old? 413 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: I am old. 414 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: We just watched it. 415 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: Okay, So yes, he does see me. He does see me. 416 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: And what's interesting is that house we rented. That was 417 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: a house up in the Hollywood Hills. 418 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: If you were here, Yes, we were there for a 419 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: number of seasons. 420 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: I think only two. 421 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: I think they had to leave after the second season 422 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: because because it was the parking was too difficult. 423 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: Truck getting up through the hills with the trucks. By 424 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: the way, the fact we chose that initially, it doesn't 425 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 3: make that. I like that house a lot. 426 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: We had a. 427 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: Completely different group that was producing and all of that 428 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: at that time. 429 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 3: Sandy Chanley, Yes, and I said, like, I'm introducing her 430 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: on a variety show, Sandy Chenman, and there. 431 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: Was the blonde Yeah, and uh yeah, you know I'm talking. 432 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I know, I know, I look called 433 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 3: the blonde guy. I repeated his name last night. Ago. 434 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: I remember the all good Eggs, by the way. 435 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know the machinations. 436 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: Of what can I be honest with you in my 437 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: entire life, I'm sixty years old, I've never used the 438 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: word mascinations. 439 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: Really, wow, Maybe you will now could. 440 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: Be more likely, I'll say that I knew the word 441 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: but never used it. 442 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: What happened was, Yeah, did you guys audition people for 443 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: that role? 444 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: No, you had an audition. 445 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: I can tell you. You tell what you know, and 446 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 3: I'll tell what I well, what I know is but 447 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 3: we did not audition anyone, anyone. 448 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: Okay. 449 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: What I recall was, I was sitting at home in 450 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: my apartment on seventy eighth Street, remember that apartment of 451 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: Motion stand up, New York, Right, And the phone rang 452 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: and it was Larry's, Susie's. I had not heard from 453 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: him for ten years. He had moved to La to 454 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: do sein fellow. I I did know it was I 455 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: had never moved to La. 456 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: I had stayed in New York. 457 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: I was living in New York and I hadn't seen 458 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: him in all these years. 459 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: And he said, I have this part for you. I 460 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: want you to do. It's a new TV show. And 461 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: I said, well, what's Upore, don't worry about it. You 462 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: could do it. And I said, well, sem me a script. 463 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 3: There's no script. 464 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: And then he said there's no money. 465 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: You have to do it for days scale and you 466 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: have to fly yourself out and put yourself up. And 467 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: I was like, lah, you know I would die to 468 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: work with him. I loved him, you know, I always 469 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: was such a big fan of his. I said, but 470 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to have it cost me money. You 471 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: want me to do it for dayscale? 472 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 2: Fine? 473 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: And I was just a guest star. It was nothing, 474 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: so whatever. Eventually somebody came up with some money. They 475 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: put me up in some crappy hotel in Venice, some shithole, 476 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: and I think they flew me out, coach or whatever. 477 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 3: Of course they flew out coach, I would wager, although I. 478 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: Think it's against union rules to do that, but I 479 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: think they flew me out Coach. And the reason why 480 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: Larry had called me for the part was he had 481 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: a later episode which we'll get to called The Wire, 482 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: which is later on in the season where I have 483 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: to be a little angry amaze set the tone, Yes, 484 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: a little angry. 485 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 3: Two scenes set the tone. Yeah. One, and then when 486 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: we get to. 487 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: That, this is what I wasn't angry at all. 488 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: No, No, I meant the one coming up this season, yes, 489 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: and then one from the season two, that season. 490 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: Two, the dollars. 491 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So he had seen me do I did it 492 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine a roast of Jerry Stiller on 493 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: Comedy Central, right, And you know roasts you have to 494 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: be very blue, it's what they are. And so he 495 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: just saw that I had a facility with a certain language, 496 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: which is what he had in mind. And I don't 497 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: really you know, we'll ask him when he comes on 498 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: the show exactly what it was that he was thinking. 499 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: But I think a light bulb moment just went off 500 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: and then he came to you, Yeah, and he. 501 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: Just said, what would you think about Susie Esmond for 502 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: your wife? And I completely lit up. I go, can 503 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: we do that? How can we do that? He goes, yeah, look, 504 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 3: let's do it. 505 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: And the character's name was Marla begin with yes, but 506 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: because that was your wife, wife of yours. 507 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: So I mean that was how it all started. 508 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 3: I don't remember you being named Marla. 509 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: That's yes, And I was at a point in my 510 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: career this is I guess he called me in nineteen 511 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: ninety one. 512 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 3: By the way, you were primarily known in this point 513 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 3: in your career as a stand up Yeah, but you 514 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: were primarily known as one of those gals from Women 515 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: of the Night. 516 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: But I just want to go back to the thing. 517 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: So he offered me the job. 518 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: And at that point I was in a very frustrated 519 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: place in my career because I had been doing stand 520 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: up for the best sixteen years and was really good, 521 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: and nothing was happening. 522 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: Even if you have the talent, even if you're funny 523 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: as hell, there's still so much adversity. I remember sitting 524 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: on the steps of Second City with Bob Odenkirk okay, 525 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: and we're both sitting there having had so much adversity, 526 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: people ignoring us, and we really were miffed. We said, 527 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: I think your funny, saying to me, I think you're funny. 528 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 3: What the fuck is going on? Why does anyone notice us? 529 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: I'll never forget that. It's vivid to me now, but 530 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: that's part of being a young comedian. 531 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: I wasn't even that young at this point, I was 532 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: like forty five. 533 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: But by the time, yeah, okay, but I think that 534 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: just a point I want to make about that is 535 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: he saw me on that roast of Jerry Stiller, right, 536 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: and Comedy Central didn't want me on that roast. The 537 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: Friars Club had said they wanted me on that roast, 538 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: and Comedy Central mixed me because I was whatever, too old, 539 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: to Jewish, to female for whatever reason, they didn't want me. 540 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: And the Friars Club fought for me to be on 541 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: that roast because I had done so much stuff for them, 542 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: Gratis improved myself because that was always my thing about 543 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: my career. You just keep showing up, showing up, you 544 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: do good work, and you just focus on that. You 545 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: don't focus on what am I getting and everybody else 546 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: is getting, and just do your thing and do your thing. 547 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: And that's what I always did, what we human and 548 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: that's what I always did. 549 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: And they fought for me to be on that roast. 550 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: In Comedy Central, I think thought, okay, well let her 551 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: be on the roast, and they paid what was then 552 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: a decent amount. I think it was like five thousand, 553 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: and they were gonn to cut me out. Well, I 554 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: killed you know, and those roasts are hard, and those 555 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: rooms are hard. 556 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: The roasts are hard. Unless someone's an idiot, I would 557 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 3: be horrible on a roast. I mean, you're not get roast. 558 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: And I was terrible, Oh my god, terrible, I know, Bob, Yeah, 559 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: that kills me to roast. 560 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: Or a specific mobility. And it's not the way that 561 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: I do my stand up because I'm not joking. No, 562 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: but I worked it and I made it jokey because 563 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: I knew that's what. And you're in a horrible room 564 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: with the high ceiling, the high ballroom ceiling. 565 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: But anyway, the Friar's Club, because without the Friars Club, 566 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: we wouldn't be having this conversation. 567 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: That's right. 568 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: You know what. I was gonna pull out of my 569 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 3: membership today because I've had it with them. 570 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: Well, they're a completely different things. 571 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: No, No, I'm a proud member of the press. But 572 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 3: they're closed right now. 573 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: They're not. It's a whole different thing. 574 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 3: They're not going to open. 575 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: I don't know. But it's not what it used to be. 576 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: Well, everything's not what it used to it. A good 577 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: buffet on a Sunday morning. 578 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: I don't even know if they do that anymore. 579 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 3: Basically, what she's saying is you, the listener who we 580 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: have to respect, would not be interested in what's going 581 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 3: down at the Friars Club. Myself, Jeff Garrow and a 582 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 3: member of the Friars Club, a comedian looking back on 583 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: Milton Borough, etc. 584 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: Wow, that was just a tremendous tradition, an amazing tradition. 585 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: And the roasts. You know, Phyllis Diller dressed up as 586 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: a man with a beard and a suit, and she 587 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: snuck into a Friar's roast because women were not allowed 588 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: in Friar's roasts. We'll be right back. Stay tuned and 589 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: we're back. The water is blocking the camera on you? 590 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: Was it blocking me? Was it below my neck? I 591 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: want this all included, by the way, I always want 592 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 3: this stuff included. Keep the whole fucker in. I want 593 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: people to feel the whole adventure that I'm feeling. It 594 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: was very important to get the picture out from because 595 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: it was blocking part of my chin. Anyhow, I thought, 596 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: why not put the the picture in front of me 597 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: and tell them where they can buy it. It's a 598 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: great by the way, I totally dig that. 599 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful picture. So all right, So Larry gives 600 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: me the job, He offers me the job. 601 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: Finally they come up with the ten dollars to fly 602 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: me out and put me up. And this was I 603 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: remember thinking, really because it was right after he did 604 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: the Seinfeld syndication deal. 605 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's not his money. 606 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: Regardless, you know what I mean that nobody, a producer 607 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: or an actor doesn't say I'll pay for it. 608 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 2: That never happens. 609 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: We know that would happen. Yeah, what, by the way, 610 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: Larry David, now if he wanted somebody as bad as you, 611 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 3: he would say I'll pay for it. 612 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 2: At that time, I don't think he would. 613 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: He didn't know better. 614 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: Nobody knew it, didn't think it was such a slap 615 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: dash operation. 616 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: In the beginning, we had no trailers, for example, we 617 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: had no hold on. 618 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: Hold on, forget the for example. Now, normally you have, 619 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: at worst, when you're primary on a show, a triple banger, 620 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 3: which means daddy, there's one trailer with three dress room cubbies. Yeah. No, 621 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: they're more than copies because then you've got four. The 622 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 3: ones with four in a row are usually for people 623 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 3: who have one line. 624 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 2: And they don't have their own bathroom. 625 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 3: And then most of them don't have their own bathroom. 626 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 3: Then the triple banger is smaller rooms, but it is 627 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 3: a room. You could take it. 628 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: You have a bathroom, and. 629 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: You have a bathroom, right, And then there's a double Banger, 630 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: and then there's the star trailer and then I work 631 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: with Adde Murphy and Daddy Daycare. He actually had four 632 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: trailers connected, like to make a diamond. 633 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: Oh, he had a house basically. 634 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: One was filled with exercise equipment. One was filled with 635 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: Danish pastries. I'm kidding, that's if I had that trailer. 636 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 3: But anyhow, we I e the cast of Kurby your Enthusiasm, Susie, myself, 637 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: Cheryl was there? Anyone else's a regular? Richard was on, 638 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: if Ted was on? 639 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: We shared No, no, not the first season. There was 640 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: no trailer, no no, wait but you know here me 641 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: there wasn't even a makeup or hair trailer. 642 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: There was no makeup and hair ti No, there were sands. 643 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: Wait here so you're taking me back and I because 644 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: I'm I'm thinking obviously of where we were season two. 645 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: So season one we just sat and directed. 646 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: We find a room somewhere and change and we would 647 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: be doing our hair and makeup by the. 648 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: Way, I'm remembering this, but I forgot all about it. 649 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: It was so we had nothing. 650 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: That was that you talk about, slap Dad. 651 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 652 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: Really low budget. We had nothing. Yeah, now I remember 653 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: there wasn't. 654 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: Even the house that our characters lived because it was space. 655 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: But we had a whole separate building. 656 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: We had a room. 657 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, big room with a big bathroom. No wonder I 658 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: liked that. That's right, because even. 659 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, I just want to point that it 660 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: was really low budget. You know, believe me, all those 661 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: girls on Sex and the City all had their own trailer, 662 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: and they had a makeup trailer, and they had a 663 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: hair trailer. Again with yet to begin with, we didn't 664 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: have anything. We were like the only child. 665 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: What HBO referred to us as their little experimental. 666 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: Their little experimental, and that's right, that's what we were, 667 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: and we had none of that. 668 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: I even think that was the case for season two. 669 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: I might be wrong. 670 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: I think it was season three that we got the 671 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: trailer we all shared, but maybe it was season two. 672 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: Well I'm pretty sure it was season two. 673 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: But I've spoken to Thomas, who was our makeup guy. 674 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: They had no trailer, right, it was just like in 675 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: a corner. 676 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: Somewhere on the shows episode one. 677 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: I think he came in a little later, but I'm 678 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: not sure, like in that season he came in season one, okay, 679 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: but you know we'd go off in a corner somewhere. 680 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 3: Is because there's very few of us who have been 681 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: there since the beginning, you know, in terms of the 682 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: hour one, myself. 683 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: Cheryl, Larry Laura, Cheryl Larry Laura, that's it, Bob Whitey. 684 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: Bob Whitey. But Bob white is no longer. He directs 685 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: an occasional episode. So yes, he was there at the beginning. 686 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 2: Yes, there he directed this episode. 687 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: Actually, oh yeah, yeah, season one number one. Of course 688 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: he did. But I'm just saying in terms of from 689 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: then to still being on the show. 690 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: Full time, right, So I was not a contract player. 691 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: I was aide dayscale. I was told I'm in three 692 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: episodes at that point, and I was totally happy to 693 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: do it. But it wasn't anything that I ever thought 694 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: I'd be sitting here twenty two years later and still 695 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: be doing and still talking about It was a knockoff. 696 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: It was a one off. 697 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 3: But here's the thing, I know you felt that way. 698 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: It's very strange for me to watch these because what 699 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: I remember now is every single detail about what I 700 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 3: was thinking, what I had for craft service, every single 701 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: aspect where I sat while we filmed a certain scene, 702 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 3: when we shot that angle, where was I. It all 703 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: came flooding back to me, and that is really strange. Also, 704 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 3: I think the success of our show lies in early on, 705 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: at least when shows are usually at their fighting their 706 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: way the best, but they're really interesting. There was no 707 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: hype early on. That's right. Noms of bands are usually 708 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: so good because they're fighting for their lives. What's going 709 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 3: to happen? And we just did what made us laugh. 710 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 3: There was no thought we were working in the vacuum. 711 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 3: We had no idea how people were going to react 712 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 3: to this at all. 713 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: And just anecdotally, the first two seasons were really under 714 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: the radar. I just noticed the third season people noticing 715 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: me on the street and things like that, but really 716 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: under the radar. 717 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: Season did we start following the Sopranos three or four? 718 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: I don't remember, Well, that's the season where we took off. 719 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 3: That's for season where many new eyes came on us 720 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: off the Sopranos. 721 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: There was something that I liked about being under the radar. 722 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, being under the radar and being employed and 723 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: making a good living, that's the dream. 724 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 725 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: Well I wasn't making a good living. I was making 726 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: day skill. 727 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: By the way, I was barely making a good living. 728 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: So at this point, only you, Larry and Cheryl were 729 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: series regulars. Yes, all right, we're hitting a lot of 730 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: time here, so let's get to Louis. 731 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: And you said anecdotally, yeah, could you promise me that 732 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: you would use that in talking to me at least 733 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 3: a half dozen times a week before you. 734 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: I promise you. 735 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: Okay? That? 736 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: And what was machinations? 737 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: Oh, if you can add anecdotally, I have some mascinations. 738 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: So I just had this one little scene and it 739 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: was really just introducing the character. Sammy was a boy 740 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: at this point. I think I made up the name Sammy, 741 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: So I actually chose well because it could have been either. 742 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: Right. When the thing with the cuteness that you said, 743 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: like she's got her arm, it was that a dog 744 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: you were talking. 745 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: There was another kid, and there was the other women 746 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: there that were my mommy and me, So. 747 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: The other kid was one of the other ladies. 748 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: Correct. I was very and Larry wouldn't go up and 749 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: see the kid, which. 750 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 3: By the way, why would he? No, no, forget, why 751 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 3: would he? Who the hell wants to if it's my kid? 752 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 3: I barely want to go up, and I love my. 753 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: Children, but seeing them got very upset about you. 754 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 3: Yes, well, by the way, let me just go back, 755 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: because it's really important one talk about my parents. So 756 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: my parents are played by Mina Colb, who is the 757 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 3: most sweet, wonderful woman, but also in the first Company 758 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: of Second City, the first, very first. She was kind 759 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 3: of an angenou back then too, and she played my 760 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: mother in the movie I did I want someone to 761 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 3: teach cheese with? Yes, And what a delight. I'll never 762 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 3: forget her saying to me there was a Second City 763 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 3: reunion and I'm wearing a red shirt and she walked 764 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: to me, you look good and red. Red's your color. 765 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: And since then you think ever we're red, and I 766 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: don't think of that much. 767 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: So was she your idea to play your mother? 768 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 3: Uh? She was casting, but she was my mom because 769 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 3: she told me I look good in red, because that's 770 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 3: what made her. 771 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: But she did not have a big career here. 772 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 3: Oh, in Hollywood. She worked, She worked, but I'm. 773 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: Just saying she wasn't you know, Louis and I was 774 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: a much better known name. 775 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 3: For example, Louis and I. I want to talk about this 776 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 3: for a second. 777 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 2: Before I is mine is still alive. 778 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 3: I don't know, and I don't want to. 779 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 2: Check, all right, for Louis I, I'm going to. 780 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: No, no, for fear, I'm gonna find out on the 781 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 3: air she's not. She's quite old though, I know that, 782 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 3: so anyhow, Louis ny she was terrific though, Oh big 783 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 3: bull of wonderful Louis Nye was a comedy legend and 784 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 3: a comedy hero. He's the one who camp with the 785 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 3: phrase high host Steve A. Renoi. Yes, he was on 786 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 3: the Beverly Hillbillies as a regular, but everything he did 787 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 3: was dropped down funny on all these funny things and 788 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 3: movies the funniest. 789 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: And played a lot of you know, like the little 790 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: Lord Fauntleroy. 791 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 3: Character in Beverly Hillbillies. But he was just so damn funny. 792 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 3: Now another hell thing for me, I had a stroke. 793 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 3: These are the people are gonna listen and go, what 794 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 3: the fuck. But I had a stroke in nine, in 795 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: ninety nine, two thousand, you know, two thousand. 796 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: It was so you had the stroke after the first. 797 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 3: Hour hour between that and the first season what we 798 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 3: call and to me, I remember, remember how difficult it 799 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: was to talk you. Yeah, it was thirty seven years old. Yeah. 800 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 3: So in Cedar Sinai, they have a channel which is 801 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 3: a gift of Burns and Allen, Jack Benny, all these 802 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 3: old time comedies that I love my heroes, and I'm 803 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 3: watching a Jack Benny episode in particular that just killed me. 804 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 3: And it took place as an airport and Louis Nye 805 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: was all through the episode as this cab driver and 806 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 3: he was killing me and killing So when we came out, No, 807 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 3: I did not suggest Louis and I. I that was not 808 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 3: even in my head. They tell me, Louis and I 809 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 3: is here to audition for your father, and I was like, 810 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 3: what the fuck, No, you're kidding me, You're kidding me. 811 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 3: And he came in and he just destroyed us, destroyed me. 812 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: He was so funny in the episode. 813 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 3: I think the funniest line, it's not even a line 814 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 3: something someone said on the show, belongs to Louis and 815 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: I in an episode down the road, get to it, Yes, 816 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 3: but this one one, Yeah, it's all normal. Larry David 817 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 3: is apologizing to my parents. My parents are being kind 818 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 3: of tough. It's all right, it's okay. And then Louis 819 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 3: throws it at the end, it was rotten, rotten what 820 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: you did. But you're apolic And the way Louie and 821 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: I says rotten is a gift from the guy. 822 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: That's right, And that was improvised. Yeah, he was not 823 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: given that, by the way. 824 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 3: That show at that point was really improvised, you know. 825 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that that's when you hire the 826 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: right people, When you hire a comedy brain like that, 827 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 1: you get that kind of gold. 828 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's a big ball of gold. 829 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all. 830 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 3: Right, where where where are we at? 831 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: Well? 832 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: I mean the rest is just the stuff at the rest. 833 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 3: I love that he's talking about sources for him getting erections. 834 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 3: He explained this because this is the thing I want 835 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 3: to talk about. She comes back and she says it 836 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 3: was She's sticking to it. She wants it to be 837 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 3: clearly in erection, and she's pissed off it it's not. 838 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: But Larry says, sources. Sophia Laurand was once a source. 839 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 3: I know my sources sometimes they're mysterious sources. Mysterious sources, 840 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: which I just thought was the funniest thing for me 841 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 3: in the episode. And you know what, we go to 842 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 3: the restaurant. This is the last scene, and when we're 843 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 3: ordering at the table, did you hear what Louis orders and. 844 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 2: Order fish frenzy? 845 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 3: Ordering things for the menu? He decides on this seafood 846 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 3: menu he's going to order. It's just not on the menu. 847 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have the fish frenzy. 848 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 3: And the way he says it is too fucking funny. 849 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and he was. I enjoyed working with him also. 850 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 3: So Larry had come to my office and said, hey, 851 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 3: you know the Hitler thing. Cheryl heard you on the 852 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 3: message say you were sorry. So what you're gonna apologize for? 853 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 3: And the whole episode really the theme was apology, letters 854 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 3: of apology, Stop apologizing. So he told me, if she 855 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 3: wants to know why, you're apologizing. And I was writing 856 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 3: a letter to Kathy Griffin apologizing, you know, and that 857 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 3: Kathy called you about working with me with Larry, and 858 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 3: you didn't give him the message, so I said it 859 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 3: was I'm sorry. Well, of course Larry's got She walks 860 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 3: up to the table and I see her and she 861 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 3: says alone to me, and I do a thing I've 862 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 3: done on the show many times, and that was the 863 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 3: first time, which is the hey hey hey, which. 864 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 4: Is hey hey hey in other words, oh fuck, oh fuck, 865 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 4: oh fuck, and Larry doesn't. 866 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 3: We're both looking at how do we take this? What 867 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 3: do we do? And we even continue lying to her, 868 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 3: going what are you talking about? 869 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: And that sets up in my mind, it sets up 870 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: a dynamic, which is that with you and Larry and 871 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: Cheryl and me, that you are constantly digging deeper holes 872 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: with us and we always know, we always catch you. 873 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: And there's no lesson learned. You never learned the way 874 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 2: there's a lesson learn there's no show. 875 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: Not comedy, just doing the same thing over and over again. 876 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 3: By the way, I want to end this with again 877 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 3: Louis and I. The waitress walks away and he goes, 878 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 3: look at the way that girl walked. 879 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 2: I know he was a little dirty old man. 880 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 3: My grandfather was that I hated. My grandfather talked to 881 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 3: everyone and flirted with every waitress, and I couldn't understand why. 882 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 3: When I was a kid. It made me uncomfortable, but 883 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 3: my instincts were correct. 884 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have that note, Louis and I dirty old man. 885 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, so on that note, we're gonna we're gonna end 886 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: this this episode and more to come. 887 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 3: And I hope, look, I hope it's enjoyable for you. 888 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 3: If it's not, don't listen to the episode. Is that 889 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 3: asking too It is asking too much? 890 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: But we'll see you next time, all right, bye,