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Speaker 1: is up? Straight fire? Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight

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Speaker 1: Fire for Wednesday, April twelfth. Your boy is dragging this morning.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, it was a late night at the Crypt. Lakers,

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Speaker 1: Timberwolves without Gobert, without Nasred, without Jaden McDaniels. Lakers did

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Speaker 1: not look good. They advance to face They hated Memphis Grizzlies.

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Speaker 1: There were chances last night at the Crypt we want Memphis?

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Speaker 1: Do we want Memphis? Like? Laker fans are excited, they're

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Speaker 1: not afraid. There's zero fear. That being said, Lakers did

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Speaker 1: and uh, oh by the way the Miami heat. Now

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Speaker 1: And of course the Hawks are just leading wire to

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Speaker 1: both road teams cover nearly both one out right. But

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Speaker 1: are super dangerous. And then they lay a massive egg

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Speaker 1: Because Anthony Davis, despite playing forty three minutes, was laboring.

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Speaker 1: Lebron really chewed a d out after that moronic foul

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Speaker 1: his night. It's just not his night. Let's just go

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Speaker 1: D'Angel Russell clearly thinking about his old team. One of

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Speaker 1: And Shrewder is a defensive pest, Folks. In thirty three

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Speaker 1: or the year before that. And then Quinn Snyder. Now

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Speaker 1: Kyle Corver played for Snyder in Utah for one season.

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Speaker 1: If you come in kind of together, right, the GM says, Hey,

425
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: Quinn Snyder, that guy did wonders in Utah. I mean,

426
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Speaker 1: look at Donovan, Mitchell and Gobert. They were thriving. I

427
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Speaker 1: know they didn't get to the NBA Finals. Like it's tough,

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Speaker 1: you know, during the Warriors dynasty. But I like that

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Speaker 1: mix of Korver and Snyder. My guess here is they

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Speaker 1: don't want to move on from Trey Young unless it's like, gosh,

431
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: he's a total disaster. He can't win anything. Look at

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Speaker 1: how he craps himself in playoff games. He doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to work well with others because remember they gave up

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Speaker 1: a lot to get Murray, and then what's the market

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Speaker 1: for Trey Young? I mean, you're sitting here telling me

436
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Speaker 1: he's not that good. He doesn't defend homeless man Steph Curry. Okay,

437
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: how many teams are in the market for a six

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Speaker 1: foot nothing guard who is, like, I don't want to

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00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: say historically a bad defender, but he is certainly in

440
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Speaker 1: the bottom of the barrel when it comes to defenders

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Speaker 1: at point guard in the league. So now it's like,

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Speaker 1: what can you get for Trey Young? Honestly, like, I

443
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Speaker 1: don't know. This is a topic we talked about on

444
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Speaker 1: Heard on Tuesday, Rob Who who would you rather have?

445
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Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson or Trey Young? And the results to me

446
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: were shocking. Everybody's bailing on Trey Young, remembering he was

447
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: in Alpha, the number one option in Atlanta when they

448
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Speaker 1: got to the conference finals and they lost to the

449
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: Bucks in giannas Okay one game seven on the road.

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00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: He didn't play great, but he had twenty one and

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Speaker 1: ten I think he had like nineteen assists. In a

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00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: pivotal game, he had like thirty nine points. In another game.

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Speaker 1: He was the number one when they got to the

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Speaker 1: conference finals. Jalen Brunson has never been the one. He

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Speaker 1: was the two to Luca when they got to the

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Speaker 1: conference finals. MAVs fall off a cliff without him. Would

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Speaker 1: you call him the one or the two? With Randall?

458
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: Are they one A one B. I don't totally know,

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Speaker 1: but I think we would agree they go to the

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Speaker 1: conference finals. So the Brunson young thing is interesting. Can

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Speaker 1: you get young to buy in as a Hey, bro, sorry,

462
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Speaker 1: you're not the alpha. We need you to move off

463
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Speaker 1: the ball a little more. We need you to try

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Speaker 1: to defend. Like he's gonna have to change who he is.

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Speaker 1: And that is kind of a little tough to sell

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Speaker 1: to a twenty four year old who was a top

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Speaker 1: five pick and has been the man since like what

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Speaker 1: junior year in high school. Yeah, and honestly, it would

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Speaker 1: be unfair to him to ask him to change it

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Speaker 1: that quickly, consider they just gave him what was at

471
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Speaker 1: a five year, two hundred and fifty million dollar contract.

472
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Speaker 1: Like the Hawks bear as much, if not more, of

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Speaker 1: the blame than he does. They knew what they were getting.

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Speaker 1: Like it's like the Lakers front all what other choice

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Speaker 1: did they have, though, know what I'm saying, when they

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Speaker 1: gave him that contract, they already he already knew what

477
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Speaker 1: he was like. We know what his style of play is.

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Speaker 1: He's an undersized guard. He's good at drawing fouls. He

479
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Speaker 1: can shoot it a little bit, not as good as

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Speaker 1: he thinks he can, you know, but he's You can't

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Speaker 1: just leave him open, and he's not a good defender.

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Speaker 1: So in that case, you have to build a roster

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Speaker 1: that's gonna make up for his deficiencies. That's an issue

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Speaker 1: that the Dallas Mavericks had had with Luca a little

485
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Speaker 1: bit because there they try to fit Kyrie Irving in

486
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: there rather than load up on more three n D guys.

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Speaker 1: That's an issue that several teams have had. And so

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Speaker 1: if you're going to stick with him, which I think

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Speaker 1: that they should, because I don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: upgrade from him, given the contract that he has and

491
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Speaker 1: the level of talent that he is, your issue is

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Speaker 1: not necessarily him him, it's the rest of the roster.

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Speaker 1: So I was in that story by Kevin O'Connor, there

494
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: was an interesting stat that you kind of alluded to earlier.

495
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: Trey doesn't like to move without the ball, but on

496
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Speaker 1: catch and shoots he's forty percent from three in his career.

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Speaker 1: The problem is he only shoots one point one and

498
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: a half of those per game. Right, So you know

499
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: Steph Curry did adapt and change. He was ball dominant

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Speaker 1: at Davidson, just like Trey Young was at Oklahoma and

501
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: he was able to adjust. Now, can Quinn Sneyder get

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Speaker 1: Trey Young to buy in? You say that's not fair, Well,

503
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: how's that not fair? Quinn Snyder has done more in

504
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: the NBA was on a dominant duke team. I know,

505
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Speaker 1: I'm dating myself way back in the eighties. Coach really

506
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Speaker 1: well of Missouri. Yes, I'm a college hoop's nerd. You

507
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: know this, Rob Listen Quinn Snyder. I don't want to

508
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: sit here, call him the man. But he went to

509
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Speaker 1: an Elite eight with Missouri, went to a couple of

510
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Speaker 1: NCAA tournaments and lost in the conference semifinals three times

511
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Speaker 1: with the Utah Jazz. Like, this is a guy. I

512
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: like him. I know people will say, oh, in the playoffs, Jay,

513
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: look at his record, it's like a million games under

514
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: five hundred. Well, you know what, It's tough to win

515
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Speaker 1: in the West when the Warriors are utterly dominant and

516
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: went to the finals how many years, five or six?

517
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: Something insane like that. Yeah, but it's not like they

518
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: lost of the Warriors every year. They lost the corpse

519
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: that was the Clippers when Kawhi Leonard was her remember

520
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: that one. That was the well that ended? And and look,

521
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: I like Quinn Snyder. I kind of wanted him to

522
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: be the Lakers coach for before they got Darvin Ham.

523
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Speaker 1: But if I'm Trey Young, and this is just me

524
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: putting myself in his position and his shoes, Trey Young

525
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: has been more successful in the NBA than Quint Snyder has.

526
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Speaker 1: His coach. Quinn Snyder's reputation around the league is great

527
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: regular seasons, flame out in the playoffs. What's Trey's reputation?

528
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: Trey Young is still He's still eating off of that

529
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: that trip to the Eastern Conference finals. Well, apparently I'm

530
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: the only one eating that. Robin. People are people, Honestly,

531
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: when when Hurd and I, Calhnder and I were talking

532
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: about this, you know, people are like, are you kidding me?

533
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: To en Brunson buy a mile? And the poll was

534
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: totally lopside. It was like sixty five thirty five. I'd

535
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: rather have Jalen Brunson. This is the guy who the

536
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: MAVs didn't want to pay fifty four million dollars too. Yeah,

537
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: it's a little insane. I'll close out by saying this, Obviously,

538
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: I like the Hawks. I think they've got a chance here,

539
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: and I'm not selling my Trey Young stock yet. Are

540
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: you unloading yours? No? Okay, that's good. We finally agree

541
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Speaker 1: with something. What Trey Young isn't is on my All

542
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: NBA list. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

543
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545
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Speaker 1: Search f SR to listen live. I'm only going to

546
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: do the top two because there's so many injuries and

547
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: so many miss games. I'll leave the third off. But

548
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: Trey Young did not make my All NBA team. All

549
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,239
Speaker 1: NBA ballots would do this week. And I know a

550
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: lot of guys rob are doing that fuzzy stuff, like

551
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: your guy Brussard. I heard him. Chris Brussard covered the

552
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: league for like thirty years. Friend of the Show coming Out,

553
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: Friend of the Show coming Out. Oh yeah, I put

554
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: a Yokichi Center and beat it forward on what planet

555
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: is Joel embiid a forward? And then I was like, okay,

556
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: so who got screwed? Tatum or Jannie Oh? Neither Jason.

557
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: Tatum's a guard, Like what well, what are you doing? Sorry,

558
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Speaker 1: Bruce Hard, I'm not operating like that. I'm gonna keep

559
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Speaker 1: it a hunted as a young kids like to say,

560
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Yokichi Center over Embiad. Sorry, yokis nearly

561
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: average triple double for like seventy five percent of the season.

562
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: The guy is really really good. I know it's tough

563
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: to give an MVP award three times. And when Yokich

564
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Speaker 1: gets destroyed in the playoffs, see Jason, I told you so,

565
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: But somehow the scrutiny doesn't hold up for him Bead. Nevertheless,

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Speaker 1: I went Yokichi Center, Jannis and Tatum the clear cut forwards,

567
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: and my guards were Steph Curry and Donovan Mitchell. Do

568
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: you hate that? Donovan Mitchell slightly over Shad Giljis Alexander,

569
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: who we will see tonight in a playing game, and

570
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: then over Deer and Fox who made a quantum leap

571
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: um and I love a lot at the the other

572
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Speaker 1: guard position. Um, No, I don't hate it. And and

573
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Speaker 1: just quickly in fairness to Bustar because he me and

574
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Speaker 1: him got into a really bad on the odd couple

575
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: or this week on Monday Night about his all NBA ballot. Um,

576
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Speaker 1: it's not his fault that the NBA is trying to,

577
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: you know, do this where they list them at both

578
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: positions because they feel like they both deserve first team.

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Speaker 1: And I understand that. I just would wish that you

580
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Speaker 1: would be like, no, I'm not going to do that

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Speaker 1: because we all know he's not a center, right, so

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Speaker 1: that's the only thing. Um, But No, as far as

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Speaker 1: you're all NBA, the two that I disagree with with

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Speaker 1: you are Yokich over Mbaid and you have Steph over

585
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: shake You'll just Alexander. But other than that, those other

586
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: three we are lockstep and the two that we disagree on,

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Speaker 1: I have him right there on second team, So it's

588
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Speaker 1: not like we're like totally at at odds in this

589
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: whole situation. Now, I know there's going to be some

590
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Speaker 1: issues with the second team. I have him beat at center. Yes,

591
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Speaker 1: I have Lebron James at one of the forward positions.

592
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: People aren't gonna like that. That's fine, Lebron, and you're twenty.

593
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: His stats are basically like what they were ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. The guy's unbelievable. And Luca don Chich, despite

595
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: missing the playoffs, is at forward now. I would I

596
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: already recanted he's the best player in the NBA. It

597
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: worked well for two years, I wrote, I wrote it,

598
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: I believed in it. You missed the playoffs, you clearly

599
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: can't be the best player in the NBA as such.

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Speaker 1: I have him on second team, but I would not

601
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Speaker 1: have him top five MVP and then my guards SGA

602
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: and d R and Fox. I know people are gonna

603
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: howl about John Morant being off the team. He wouldn't

604
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: even make my third team. Guys, I'm sorry. When you

605
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Speaker 1: get suspended for multiple off the court in fractions, the

606
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Speaker 1: what are they calling it? Um uh not. They didn't

607
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: use rehab rob but they use some other word. So

608
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: a treatment facility out here. Give me the get out

609
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: of here with this garbage. No listen, if you're injured

610
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: and you have to miss games, this one thing when

611
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: that happens, because if you had incidents off the court

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Speaker 1: and you're trying this new rehab thing where you're like

613
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Speaker 1: trying to rehab your image and your dad showing up

614
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Speaker 1: courtside with like what was it a redemption sweatsright? Like,

615
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Speaker 1: get out of here. I'm sorry, John, No, You're a

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00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: great player, probably probably second team stats, maybe a decent

617
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: case for first. But he wouldn't even make my third team.

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00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: I would definitely have Saboni's third. And then it gets

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Speaker 1: to like Lori Marken into the Jazz and I hear

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00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: the eye rolling Jaylen Brown, James Harden certainly in there.

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Speaker 1: Um I can't put kd. He played in like what

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Speaker 1: forty seven games? Um, you know I Devin Booker has

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Speaker 1: a strong case, but ultimately third team is just like

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Speaker 1: you know, I can't get too worked up about that. Rob. Yeah,

625
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Speaker 1: where I have a big issue with you, And it's

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Speaker 1: not not the Lebron James because you know, I think

627
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Speaker 1: you can you can find a way to get him there,

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Speaker 1: because he was great when he played. I will not,

629
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Speaker 1: and I will go to my death bed on this.

630
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Speaker 1: Be on board. Ever, with the guy missing the playoffs,

631
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Speaker 1: his team is in the playoffs and him still making

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Speaker 1: all NBA. So by my definition, Luca nanch just eliminated completely.

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Speaker 1: He cannot be considered for all NBA in this same

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Speaker 1: way that you feel like you cannot include John Morant

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Speaker 1: because of his off court transgressions. I just I don't

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Speaker 1: feel comfortable rewarding a guy who had his team tailspin

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Speaker 1: from a top four home court advantage, seed too completely

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Speaker 1: out of the plane where there's ten teams. He had

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Speaker 1: his team tailspin. I need a twenty second time out. Rob.

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Speaker 1: They were fourth in the West when they traded for

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving. Okay, fourth in the West. Kyrie Irving comes

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Speaker 1: to the team, and, as we've chronicled on this podcast

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Speaker 1: for I guess the better part of two years, anywhere

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Speaker 1: he goes, he's like a flamethrower to the organization, just

645
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: burns it down, ruined what lebron had built in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: went and detonated in Boston, couldn't get along with the

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Speaker 1: young guys. Goes to Brooklyn, let me start a team here,

648
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Speaker 1: runs a couple coaches out. It's all around ugliness that James.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait till James Harden finally talks about what

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Speaker 1: he's what was going on in that locker room with

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Speaker 1: the burning sage and his reactions to it, and then

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Speaker 1: goes to Dallas and they go from fourth to eleventh.

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Speaker 1: The only change there was Kyrie. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear about the schedule. I don't want to hear about

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Speaker 1: the Dorrian Finney Smith mattered. But Kyrie goes to the

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Speaker 1: team and they go from fourth to eleventh. So you

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Speaker 1: can blame Luca all you want, but I can't. I

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Speaker 1: can't ride with that. I'm not saying I'm blaming Luca.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is and he deserves a lot of blame.

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Speaker 1: And like I say, he's you know, free and clear

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Speaker 1: of this. But there, I don't understand how you can

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Speaker 1: reward a guy with an All NBA spot and a

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Speaker 1: access to like a Supermax contract or whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: these incentives that they can get when his team sucked

665
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Speaker 1: like that. That there, there's gotta be the those two

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Speaker 1: lines of thing to me don't drive together. Like, I

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Speaker 1: don't understand how you can leave off a guy like

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Speaker 1: John Morant even though he was popping off, you know,

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Speaker 1: on the gram and wait with beating up a teenager

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Speaker 1: and going to the mall to harass mall employees. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't want to sell a sneaker to his

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Speaker 1: mom come on, look like I gotta grow up. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I everything you said is true, but his team was

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Speaker 1: really good. They were the two seat in the Western Conference.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't see how you can reward Luca

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Speaker 1: don for being not even mediocre, like their team was

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Speaker 1: just bad, and then decide that you're going to keep

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Speaker 1: all NBA from John Morant when his team was great.

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Speaker 1: That's a fair pushback, um, and reasonable minds can agree

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Speaker 1: to disagree. It hurts me deeply that we have to

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Speaker 1: wait until what October to see Luca don chech again.

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Speaker 1: He's just so fun to watch, yelling at the referees,

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Speaker 1: all of it. I just I love it endlessly. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, let me get to the best bet for

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Speaker 1: Tonight's to playing games which are not nearly as attractive

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Speaker 1: as last sights. The only thing better than sitting on

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Speaker 1: your couch watching the game. He's making money while you

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Speaker 1: do it. Here's your best bet, right, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: a quick best bet again. Take your winnings from last night,

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Speaker 1: enjoy them because I don't know really what there is

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Speaker 1: here with raptors bulls. My problem is I do love

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Speaker 1: me some Zach Levine. However, the Raptors are they can

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Speaker 1: defend him well on the wing. This is a Raptor's team.

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Speaker 1: Remember earlier in the season, I'm like, why the media

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Speaker 1: love these guys. I don't get it. I don't see it.

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Speaker 1: And the Raptors were super struggling. It looked like they

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Speaker 1: were going to miss the playoffs, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it's like they start rebounding, they get a little healthier,

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Speaker 1: and you know, next thing you know, it's like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, is this team good? So they were

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Speaker 1: favored by four, went up to four and a half.

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Speaker 1: I see it at five this morning. It's just the

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Speaker 1: Bulls are so banged up, you know, it's really difficult

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Speaker 1: to make a case when I mean, I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: the base the breakdown of the Bulls best players like

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Speaker 1: Vochi Did I say that right? Nicola Vuevic, Vuchevic, I'm sorry, Vuchevik.

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Speaker 1: He's okay, he doesn't play any defense. I think the

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Speaker 1: best player on the floor is probably probably Zach Levine,

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Speaker 1: but Pascal Siakam has a strong case for all NBA

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Speaker 1: O g Na Nobi is a great wing defender, and

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Speaker 1: this edition of Potal from the Spurs you know, he's

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Speaker 1: just a problem inside. I don't think Toronto's capable of

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Speaker 1: running away with it. I just I don't love them.

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Speaker 1: I guess if you ask me, Jason, what's the play here,

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Speaker 1: I would probably take a gander on Chicago Bulls first half.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a strong conviction in this team. I

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Speaker 1: do think Levine and de Rosen could come out to

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Speaker 1: Rosen of course the revenge game on the Raptors franchise

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Speaker 1: he played for for many many years. It's just ultimately

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Raptors are a better team, so

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Speaker 1: I now, but I won't bet them because I again,

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Speaker 1: I don't trust this team at all. So I would

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Speaker 1: take bull I would look at Bulls first half and

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Speaker 1: I would I would consider Bulls for the game. I

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Speaker 1: think De Rosen could have a rough one against his

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Speaker 1: former team, and he's like a mid range king, whereas

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Speaker 1: Levine is going to really have to go off in

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Speaker 1: this one, and he's played really well the last you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks here in the other game, I

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Speaker 1: feel a little bit stronger about the Pelicans. And it's

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Speaker 1: nothing that it's nothing really about the Thunder. They're just

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Speaker 1: too young. I mean the best player on the floor.

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Speaker 1: As much as I like Brandon Ingram has to be

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Speaker 1: say Gil just Alexander, But can he do it by himself?

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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen when Jose al Varado runs wild on you? No,

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Speaker 1: in reality, it's I like the Pells. I don't think

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Speaker 1: SGA could do it himself. Okay, SE's frisky. You know

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Speaker 1: the Lakers did not want to see him at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say, give me, give me the Pells. Favored

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Speaker 1: by five, what are they called the Smoothie Center? Brandon Ingram,

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Speaker 1: CJ McCollum playoff tested against an OKC team. They know

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Speaker 1: the lights are going to be bright. Does a national

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Speaker 1: TV game win and move on? Though? They got a

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Speaker 1: young guys, a lot of young guys who are not

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Speaker 1: afraid at all. But there's also kind of that, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, what are we getting ourselves into? I know

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00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: both dogs covered last night, but historically the favorites and

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Speaker 1: the home teams have rolled. And again there's not a

749
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Speaker 1: ton of history in the play in. I think, what

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00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 1: do we have two seasons of playing games? Um? Yeah,

751
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna ride with the Pelicans in I looked

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00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: at the under but these totals. Man, everybody and their

753
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: mom was on the Lakers Wolves over and it was

754
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: ninety five thirty seconds left and it went over time.

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00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: He didn't sniff the over, so um, yeah, give me

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Speaker 1: the Pels one ten OKC ninety nine nine. Um, I

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00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: did notice, you guys will laugh at this. In ESPN

758
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: will do sometimes like who they think will win games.

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00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: They had seventeen analysts say Heat would beat the Hawks,

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Speaker 1: Heat lose outright. Seventeen analysts said the Lakers would beat

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Speaker 1: the Wolves. They did, but they needed overtime. Pelican Thunders

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Speaker 1: kind of split eleven five, Pearls and Raptors Bowls is

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Speaker 1: eleven six. So again, tonight's games not as enticing. I

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Speaker 1: think I would assume that means we'll get at least

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Speaker 1: one blowout. That's my prediction. All right, that's a long

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Speaker 1: along podcast for a Wednesday. We've got a surprise guest tomorrow.

767
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: I think you guys are gonna love him. Covers one

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Speaker 1: of the teams in the playoffs we haven't really talked

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Speaker 1: about as tomorrow. Talk to you then,