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Speaker 1: victory Monday edition of Talking Cowboys. Here from the s
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys take down the San Francisco forty nine miners
Speaker 1: for win number five of the twenty twenty campaign forty
Speaker 1: one thirty three the final score from AT and T
Speaker 1: Stadium last night. We're gonna break it all down for
Speaker 1: you here on Talking Cowboys, presented as always by the
Speaker 1: great folks over at Geiko. Kyle Yeoman's with you alongside
Speaker 1: our resident Super Bowl Champion Isaiah dan Bank. We've got
Speaker 1: Cowboys insider Rob Phillips down to the bottom right hand
Speaker 1: corner and professional football analyst heck My Harrison, and along
Speaker 1: with your title Heck Mom, I'm gonna go with professional
Speaker 1: tree decorator because he's got his battery paid off and
Speaker 1: in the left side of his screen it's a little
Speaker 1: bit bigger than your up down. Heck hey, d First
Speaker 1: of us, Kyle, do not get me in any trouble
Speaker 1: with that title. Okay, because all of the credit to
Speaker 1: decorating this tree belongs to my daughter Kia and my
Speaker 1: wife Nicky, So this is this is their creation. They
Speaker 1: did this, so fantastic kudoson my daughter kid and wife.
Speaker 1: Looks like Rockefeller Center back there. It looks like time
Speaker 1: to where I love it. You know, Kia is the
Speaker 1: real star of the family. But also not to mention,
Speaker 1: I mean, Isaiah, you're pretty much a star for getting Heckma,
Speaker 1: you said those are Bluetooth lights. You like, you're working
Speaker 1: with Bluetooth on this tree. So how does that? Hero?
Speaker 1: I you can hook this thing up, it goes, you
Speaker 1: can sync it with your phone, and you could play
Speaker 1: it with your music. So I was thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: having a little little John Christmas going this weekend, So
Speaker 1: just no, it's all Isaiah lost the bat, he shipped
Speaker 1: the tree, and Heckma put it up this weekend. Looks fantastic, buddy,
Speaker 1: you look very festive here in the week of Christmas.
Speaker 1: Happy holidays to everyone, no matter what you celebrate. But yeah, Rob,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are celebrating a win yesterday and an opportunity
Speaker 1: to stay alive in the playoff hunt at least for
Speaker 1: another week because Washington lost to Seattle. Big time week
Speaker 1: coming up this week in really how things are going
Speaker 1: to shape out in the NFC East. But Rob, what
Speaker 1: did you think about yesterday's matchup with the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers and how the Cowboys came out on top. You're
Speaker 1: telling me that game got flexed? Really a game that
Speaker 1: ends on a kickoff on side return for a touchdown
Speaker 1: and then a hail married. NFL decided to flex that game.
Speaker 1: For shame, NBC, for shame, you missed a good one
Speaker 1: between two teams that are that are really struggling. And
Speaker 1: that's why, I mean, half of us picked the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: half of us picked the forty nine ers on Friday,
Speaker 1: and I think it's because they're in a lot of
Speaker 1: ways the same team. They're flawed, they have injuries, they
Speaker 1: have problems taking care of the ball, and that was
Speaker 1: the difference. Cowboys now with a plus seven turnover ratio
Speaker 1: in their last two wins, a two game winning streak,
Speaker 1: now first of the season. I saw on last week
Speaker 1: the New York Times statistical model, So the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: a one percent chance to win the NFC East. I
Speaker 1: apparently that has risen to five percent, So it's still
Speaker 1: a chance. You're telling me there is a chance fer
Speaker 1: five percent. You know, I would disagree with the computer
Speaker 1: on that one, and I'm not a mathematician by any means.
Speaker 1: But the fact that you have Washington going up against
Speaker 1: Carolina this week, which is a winnable game for Washington,
Speaker 1: but it's very losable, especially if Alex Smith is unavailable,
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys somehow, if they can take down
Speaker 1: the Eagles, I think the Cowboys are sitting in the
Speaker 1: driver's seat going into week seventeen. But we can talk
Speaker 1: about that a little bit later. On Isaiah, what do
Speaker 1: you think about this offense yesterday and kind of how
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and that offensive line responded whenever San Francisco
Speaker 1: brought the heat, especially at the back half of the
Speaker 1: second quarter and then right after that halftime break. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel good about it, and I just want to
Speaker 1: acknowledge the fact that you know, I know. Heck, we
Speaker 1: just alluded to you prior to us coming on the
Speaker 1: show the cow that you were listening to the E
Speaker 1: forty versus two short verses. You know, obviously you were
Speaker 1: listening to E four O, but the Cowboys were listening
Speaker 1: to that forty burger because because they got that forty
Speaker 1: on there. Um. But no, these guys played pretty dog
Speaker 1: on well, they played pretty well. Man. I'm actually proud
Speaker 1: of these guys. They've come a long way. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: this chemistry has continued to build every week. We've had
Speaker 1: some form of adversity every every week. We I don't
Speaker 1: think since week one, I don't think we've had our
Speaker 1: entire squad squadron out there, um as I as I've
Speaker 1: been watching The Mandalorian. But yeah, I think you know,
Speaker 1: obviously this is we going to this week and Zeke's
Speaker 1: out and Paula has to step up. You know, he
Speaker 1: gets sixty some yards Russian sixty some of yards receiving.
Speaker 1: You know, Kellen Moore continues to expand his repertoire. He
Speaker 1: brought out some stops that I haven't seen him do
Speaker 1: this year, um, that were within the frame of our offense.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no crazy reverses and reverse passes and all that.
Speaker 1: It was just some misdirection. And you know, he he
Speaker 1: pretty much been watching the film against our defense because
Speaker 1: he did exactly, um what works against our defense against
Speaker 1: against this this team. So very proud of these guys, man.
Speaker 1: You know, they did what they what was required to
Speaker 1: get a win. And not only that, these guys played
Speaker 1: complimentary football. I know we talked about it in the
Speaker 1: postgame show yesterday called but complimentary football. Your defense gets
Speaker 1: you the ball, guess what, go score? Right now, that's
Speaker 1: a give and take relationship. Nobody who just wants to
Speaker 1: be a relationship where you're just receiving. No, that's a
Speaker 1: tough relationship for me. You know, look, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be I'm not gonna be the debbut downer for this
Speaker 1: victory because we got one, right, we got this victory.
Speaker 1: It was tough. There were a lot of momentum swings
Speaker 1: in this game. Offensively, I just liked the fact that that,
Speaker 1: you know, we were sitting in position a lot of
Speaker 1: times just with a short field, and it made it
Speaker 1: easy for us to punch it in. There were times
Speaker 1: where Andy Dalton was plot on with his throws, and
Speaker 1: then there were other times where the running game wasn't there,
Speaker 1: and I think that's when Kellen Moore on some plays
Speaker 1: had to go into his bag and try and pull
Speaker 1: out a few gadget plays. But luckily those didn't cost
Speaker 1: us defensively. Who are these guys? I mean, four turnovers
Speaker 1: yesterday and we've been talking about getting turnovers all season long,
Speaker 1: and that just hadn't been something that this Cowboys team
Speaker 1: has been able to manufacture. But you see how easy,
Speaker 1: how easy it makes the game flow for your offense
Speaker 1: when you can set them up in prime position. You
Speaker 1: have a free safety that breaks on a ball. How
Speaker 1: about that, you know to get an interception and Tank Lawrence,
Speaker 1: Tank Lawrence played his tail off yesterday. And so kudos
Speaker 1: to the defense. That a lot of things that obviously
Speaker 1: we could scrutinize or criticize them for, but look, they
Speaker 1: mitigated a lot of that stuff and pulled out a
Speaker 1: great victory. And whenever it comes to the defense, you
Speaker 1: have the four turnovers and two fumbles in the first half,
Speaker 1: one on special teams won on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the football. Then you had the two picks in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, one to Anthony Brown his first interception of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and his fifth of his career. Then you
Speaker 1: had Donovan Wilson, like you said, breaking toward the football.
Speaker 1: And I asked Stephen Jones earlier this week, and I
Speaker 1: asked him, do you feel like you've found that guy?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like Donovan Wilson is finally that safety
Speaker 1: that you've been waiting for, the hard hitter, the guy
Speaker 1: who forces turnovers, and he forces another one in his
Speaker 1: first game back after missing a couple due to injury.
Speaker 1: And he looked fine out there. I really did. I
Speaker 1: thought he looked fantastic. And then you have the secondary
Speaker 1: coming in and getting some reinforcements. Cheeta Woozier's back, Trayvon
Speaker 1: Digs's back, Anthony Brown is back, and all four of
Speaker 1: those top corners are available at one point in the game. Now,
Speaker 1: you lost Xavier Woods later on in the matchup yesterday,
Speaker 1: But with that being said, you had six of your
Speaker 1: your dbs. You had your top six dbs finally available.
Speaker 1: Rob How huge is that for the defense, especially when
Speaker 1: you're trying to evaluate what that secondary is going to
Speaker 1: look like going into next season. Oh, it's absolutely huge.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's A that's a continuity problem on this
Speaker 1: roster that we probably haven't talked abou enough this year.
Speaker 1: We've talked about missing Dak, we talked about the offensive line,
Speaker 1: We've talked about um injuries to the defensive line and
Speaker 1: moving on from players on the defensive line, but not
Speaker 1: not the secondary as much. And I think, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you watched Jordan Lewis, who's been kind of the constant
Speaker 1: the last few games he's been healthy, and uh, he
Speaker 1: put together another solid performance in terms of just being
Speaker 1: around the football, stopping the run, sack. Uh, he's been
Speaker 1: solid and pass coverage. So I think, you know, he's
Speaker 1: one of several guys going into his contract year and
Speaker 1: I think he's playing well as the season ends. But yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: continuity has been big. Look, they they gave up four
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight yards that is that is the
Speaker 1: three points. That's the second highest total that they've allowed
Speaker 1: this year. Uh, you know in San Franco had one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty rushing yards. That was kind of to
Speaker 1: be expected. Wasn't three hundred, So that that was progress,
Speaker 1: but you know that's progress. They cut, they cut in half,
Speaker 1: they cut in half, So yes, they look, you can
Speaker 1: you've got you can give up yardage, you know that
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. But if you can get takeaways, that's
Speaker 1: how you win games. I mean, Mike McCarthy's not a
Speaker 1: big stats guy, but turnovers are the leading stat for him.
Speaker 1: That's what the size football games. He's not wrong. Cowboys
Speaker 1: had eleven takeaways in the first twelve games. They've got
Speaker 1: seven in the last two games. It's not a coincidence
Speaker 1: that they won two games in a row, not at all.
Speaker 1: And good thing that McCarthy isn't a stats guy, because
Speaker 1: if you look at the offensive stats, they weren't very good.
Speaker 1: I mean, two hundred and ninety one yards on fifty
Speaker 1: eight plays and you had only the eighty seven on
Speaker 1: the ground two oh nine for Andy Daltson yesterday. So
Speaker 1: offensively the stats weren't there. You weren't very good on
Speaker 1: third down six of fifteen, which is forty percent, so
Speaker 1: you have to see some improvement throughout. But you didn't
Speaker 1: really need this offense heckma I mean, whenever you came
Speaker 1: to the turnovers, it ended up pushing them into position
Speaker 1: to where they took advantage twenty four points of their
Speaker 1: forty one came off of turnovers and they took it
Speaker 1: vantage whenever they needed to. Yeah, and a defensive effort
Speaker 1: like that, it covers up in all of your inadequacies
Speaker 1: and that's what it did for the offense. And you know, look,
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of things that we have to
Speaker 1: work on. Red zone efficiency still has to be a
Speaker 1: sticking point for this offense. Like you said, third downs,
Speaker 1: we were not very good on third downs, but when
Speaker 1: you get the ball on the twenty two, you know,
Speaker 1: it makes it makes it a lot shorter. But also
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton did some really good things that you talk
Speaker 1: about a drive in the third quarter where he goes
Speaker 1: fifteen play seventy three yards and it was it was
Speaker 1: the drive that he had to put together to get
Speaker 1: this victory. Kudos to our defensive front to front seven.
Speaker 1: It makes it so much easier when your guys are
Speaker 1: putting pressure on the quarterback and forcing him into Aaron throws.
Speaker 1: I mean Mullin as a quarterback man, he was staring
Speaker 1: it down and just making it easy for our guys
Speaker 1: on the back half as well. So all things being considered,
Speaker 1: you talk about the continuity of our secondary and guys
Speaker 1: having to play finally having everybody healthy. I think that
Speaker 1: meant a lot to see those guys playing together. But
Speaker 1: also Isaiah said this as a sticking point for a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys that are in their contract years
Speaker 1: that the eye and the sky don't lie and they
Speaker 1: can't just lay down. They're playing for their careers and
Speaker 1: you see guys like Cheeto Jordan Lewis playing just like that.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna put that tape out there so
Speaker 1: that everyone sees that I want to be in this league,
Speaker 1: and I really was. I was proud of guys playing
Speaker 1: up to their potential we've been waiting on and if
Speaker 1: we finally saw it. Isaiah, Yeah, I mean they did
Speaker 1: with what was required to them. I mean that's pretty
Speaker 1: much at the end of the day. Do they need
Speaker 1: to play better, Absolutely, Could they have had more yards? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Could we have you know, not allowed as many yards? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Every everything you can say, absolutely too, you know, But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's about getting a
Speaker 1: w and and once you get the dumb now you
Speaker 1: can start critiquing and going over all the things that
Speaker 1: they need to improve upon. But um, everything's everything that
Speaker 1: needs to be said. I think it's being a sad Man,
Speaker 1: those guys there, Um, everybody, everybody stepped their game up,
Speaker 1: you know, as Heckma talked about, you know, these guys
Speaker 1: are playing for their careers very very much. So regardless
Speaker 1: of what was going on with your team, you got
Speaker 1: to stand up for yourself and then yourself turns into
Speaker 1: multiple guys doing it, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: the team plays better. So um, that's what we saw yesterday.
Speaker 1: And and the thing about the takeaways, you know the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati game, you know, you could all if you're a skeptic,
Speaker 1: you can argue Cincinnati gave him those turnovers. You know,
Speaker 1: they were just careless with the ball. You know, DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence made that turnover happen. Yes, Yes, same thing with
Speaker 1: Lawrence Armstrong. Those two picks in the fourth quarter were
Speaker 1: you know, reading and reacting and making a play on
Speaker 1: the ball and being instinctive. And so that's that's not
Speaker 1: pure luck, you know. And so that's that's the sign
Speaker 1: of a defense that is growing. Whether that's that makes
Speaker 1: you makes you happy as a fan with the draft
Speaker 1: pick or not, you know, that is that's right, rob
Speaker 1: it And I think for our defense, just seeing them
Speaker 1: do that makes me believe that they are more comfortable
Speaker 1: with the scheme they're learning. I mean, it's it's one
Speaker 1: thing to read and react, but if you're you're back
Speaker 1: there and you're guessing on where you need to be in,
Speaker 1: the communication level isn't there. Guys couldn't do that before.
Speaker 1: It just feels like they've simplified their coverages. And we
Speaker 1: talked about high school coverages like this is just court.
Speaker 1: It's just a cover for right. It's the same, it's
Speaker 1: the same, it's the same, and guys just hadn't been
Speaker 1: able to master it. But the communication hadn't been there.
Speaker 1: When you see guys like Anthony Brown break in front
Speaker 1: of a receiver to get an interception, that's just him
Speaker 1: being comfortable and knowing I'm in zone and I have
Speaker 1: a guy behind me, you know. And just in the
Speaker 1: same thing with Donovan Wilson, he's understanding the cover so
Speaker 1: he can break on the ball. I love that as well.
Speaker 1: But I have to say Andy Dalton, for just like
Speaker 1: a split second there, man, I was having I was
Speaker 1: having delusions of Andy backing the day he had his
Speaker 1: red rifle going there for a quick second, and they,
Speaker 1: you know, they want to call him a bus driver,
Speaker 1: just you know, facilitator of the office. But he was
Speaker 1: taking with that this was given him, which was a lot,
Speaker 1: and he was always making the good REASO kuldos to
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton for doing that. Well, you saw in this
Speaker 1: game what a true backup quarterback in the NFL looks
Speaker 1: like and what a true starter in the NFL looks like. Now,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that aren't very happy
Speaker 1: with Andy Dalton because of the losses, because of the
Speaker 1: interceptions early in his Cowboys tenure. But whenever you look
Speaker 1: at Andy Dalton, he's not Dak Prescott. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: talking about an elite quarterback, or at least one that's
Speaker 1: borderline league for some people. Nobody can argue that he's
Speaker 1: borderline A league. I think he's elite. But then you
Speaker 1: have Andy Dalton, who is a true starter in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Then you have Nick Mullins. Nick Mullins is a backup quarterback. CJ.
Speaker 1: Bethard is a backup quarterback. Andy Dalton is not that.
Speaker 1: And you saw that yesterday. And the one turning point
Speaker 1: I think in the game was in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: It was twenty four twenty four. San Francisco had rattled
Speaker 1: off ten straight points and it was third down. Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton was under pressure, rolled out to his right and
Speaker 1: had to escape pressure. It wasn't a designed bootleg by
Speaker 1: any means, but he looks down field, tows the sideline
Speaker 1: and delivers a dime into a very tight hole to
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb for forty five yards. The next play, Dalton
Speaker 1: Schultz bings and bangs his way into the end zone
Speaker 1: from twelve yards out. So that was the turning point
Speaker 1: in the game because at that point San Francisco had
Speaker 1: all the momentum, they had the ten points, they were
Speaker 1: finding a way to get to this offensive line. They
Speaker 1: were bringing the pressure and they said, beat us, beat
Speaker 1: us over the top. And that's what Andy Dalton did.
Speaker 1: He towed that sideline and was able to deliver a
Speaker 1: ball that not any of those backup quarterbacks throughout the
Speaker 1: NFL could have potentially done. And that was what ended
Speaker 1: up I think, turning the football game around and making
Speaker 1: San Francisco second guests themselves whenever it comes to blitzing
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and trying to blitz this cowboy's offense. Rob Yeah,
Speaker 1: the chunk play that you're right, that was huge, and
Speaker 1: that was a dime. And you know, one thing about
Speaker 1: the offense, the takeaways for the defense were so big
Speaker 1: because offensively, Cowboys really needed it. I mean, they had
Speaker 1: a hard time. I'm getting things going. I thought, you
Speaker 1: know what you guys are saying about Andy's exactly right.
Speaker 1: He's doing exactly what he needs to do as as
Speaker 1: coming in as the backup. Don't turn it over, be solid,
Speaker 1: be protective of the football. But they they they've struggled
Speaker 1: with the chunk plays recently, and I think they only
Speaker 1: had three in the game. Obviously, Tony Pollard's run at
Speaker 1: the end was was awesome. Uh that that was that
Speaker 1: was big time and that that sealed the game. But
Speaker 1: I think the other two were to CD one one
Speaker 1: that you reference Kyle, and then the other one I
Speaker 1: think was when he kind of chucked it up to
Speaker 1: CD on the free play on the false start. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're still having trouble running the ball. M.
Speaker 1: Whether it's Zeke, whether it's Tony Pollard. I think some
Speaker 1: of it is starts up front. M. But you know,
Speaker 1: when you've got, like you said, a luxury to have
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback like Andy who can make that play
Speaker 1: when the defense gives it to you. And when your
Speaker 1: defense is balling out like that in terms of giving
Speaker 1: you the ball with short fields, sometimes all you need
Speaker 1: is a couple of chunk plays. You can win the
Speaker 1: game that way. Isaiah, Yeah, I mean yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like I would just say the same thing, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are any dogs doing what's what's
Speaker 1: asked of them. You know, here, don't we don't do
Speaker 1: anything miraculous. You know, they're making plays when they need to.
Speaker 1: The chemistry is improving every week. Confidence is building. Um,
Speaker 1: these guys are getting more familiarized on the defensiety of
Speaker 1: the ball. That's why you saw them start taking more risk.
Speaker 1: You know, Donofan Wilson obviously coming up getting an interception,
Speaker 1: coming up almost getting a second interception. You know, he
Speaker 1: really could have walked away. They were there with two
Speaker 1: of those things. Um, all the dbs being back, you know,
Speaker 1: the continuity that they have, the trust, that's probably a
Speaker 1: word that needs to be utilized. They're starting to trust
Speaker 1: each other, whether it's the scheme, they're getting more confident
Speaker 1: within the scheme, or whether they actually know that that
Speaker 1: each other is gonna be where they're supposed to be regardless,
Speaker 1: it's it's resulting in better play um and then deepness aligned.
Speaker 1: Those guys are starting to starting to come together as well.
Speaker 1: Big Gallamoor came out there and blew some things up
Speaker 1: that that was very important for an inside presence. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, Crawford is being where he's supposed to be,
Speaker 1: d Laws coming off playing like he's supposed to play,
Speaker 1: you know, the guy that we paid him to be.
Speaker 1: So it's coming together, man, it's coming together, and it's
Speaker 1: coming together at the right time. Now, he's got to
Speaker 1: keep taking care of business every every play, every game.
Speaker 1: And I hope that hope that a Washington laser egg. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta hope for some help at this point.
Speaker 1: But whenever the Washington football team goes out with Dwayne Haskins,
Speaker 1: they're not the same team that if they had Alex
Speaker 1: Smith out there. So things can happen this week against Carolina,
Speaker 1: and things can happen for the Cowboys against Philadelphia, even
Speaker 1: though Philly seems like they have a quarterback now and
Speaker 1: that's going to be a tough task for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: coming up. But we'll preview that game throughout the week.
Speaker 1: We've got shows all the way up until Thursday. But
Speaker 1: when we come back here on Talking Cowboys. Was this
Speaker 1: kind of a smoke screen game for Tony Pollard and
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott? What is going on in terms of the
Speaker 1: running back game? And how can the Cowboys fair without
Speaker 1: twenty one in the future. Should that be a situation.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that next when we come back on
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Speaker 1: this on this edition of Talking Cowboys. Heck Ma Harrison
Speaker 1: and the Harrison families some holiday cheer. I'm Kyle Yeoman's
Speaker 1: driving the bus. But we brought up Tony Pollard in
Speaker 1: the last segment. And Tony had a good game yesterday.
Speaker 1: Whenever you look at the stats in the final final
Speaker 1: totals for Tony Pollard sixty nine yards on twelve carries.
Speaker 1: He had that long run of forty later in the game,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, both on the ground. He also had six
Speaker 1: receptions for sixty three yards on nine targets, and out
Speaker 1: of those sixty three yards, thirty of them came on
Speaker 1: one reception. But Isaiah, whenever it comes to Tony Pollard,
Speaker 1: and there's so many different ways to think about this,
Speaker 1: because Ezekiel Elliott was inactive for the first time in
Speaker 1: his career. Now he had some suspension stuff earlier, but
Speaker 1: in terms of just being a straight healthy or I
Speaker 1: guess health inactive. He was inactive yesterday because of the
Speaker 1: calf injury. But a lot of people wanted to see
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. What did you see and how he performed yesterday?
Speaker 1: I thought he did pretty well. I think Kella Moore
Speaker 1: was trying to ensure that he got involved in his
Speaker 1: game and involved early. I think that they the way
Speaker 1: in which you typically would would use him when he
Speaker 1: was a two headed monster with with Zeke. I think
Speaker 1: you just saw that in just full form yesterday. They
Speaker 1: tried to feed on the ball. They try to take
Speaker 1: him inside, they try to take them outside. They were
Speaker 1: really trying to find some gaps. You didn't they the
Speaker 1: White Nines didn't present the gaps that we thought they would,
Speaker 1: you know, but they did find a way to pass
Speaker 1: the ball to him, and that's where he's sometimes most effective.
Speaker 1: You know, You've seen a lot of times he's lined
Speaker 1: up in the backfield. They motioned him all the way out,
Speaker 1: you know, to a wide split receiver position, um and
Speaker 1: it really declared the fact that they were in zone.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure it cleared up a lot of things
Speaker 1: for Andy Dalton as well. But they were just very
Speaker 1: diverse in their in their offerings and the presentation in
Speaker 1: their in their form in which they utilized Pollard. I
Speaker 1: thought it was it was pretty effective. Rob. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: he it's funny, you know, the six catches. I think
Speaker 1: going into the game two years in the league now,
Speaker 1: I think his high was four catches in the game,
Speaker 1: and when they drafted him, we kept hearing about, you
Speaker 1: know what he can do as a receiver? Can he
Speaker 1: do in space? And after seeing that yesterday, especially like
Speaker 1: Isaiah mentioned early in the game, I'm thinking, what, let's
Speaker 1: see more of that? Why haven't we seen more of that?
Speaker 1: You know, I get I give Kellen Moore a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for I think Heckman mentioned this in the
Speaker 1: first segment the red zone. I think they're three for
Speaker 1: three in the red zone. He said last week, I've
Speaker 1: got to be better calling plays in the red zone,
Speaker 1: and he got creative and they were able to cash
Speaker 1: in using Tony as a runner down there. But we
Speaker 1: saw his full skill set on display, and I don't
Speaker 1: I don't view this as much of a Tony versus
Speaker 1: Zeke thing I wrote about this mid mid season. I
Speaker 1: want to see both of them more. I think with
Speaker 1: dak out you've got to use your running backs more
Speaker 1: help out your quarterback, and I think he's proven he
Speaker 1: can help you in different ways now as as a
Speaker 1: pure running back back there before the forty yard run,
Speaker 1: you know eleven for twenty nine, you know eleven carries
Speaker 1: for twenty nine yards. So I think I think we're seeing,
Speaker 1: regardless of who's back there, they're missing some guys up
Speaker 1: front on the offensive line, and I think that's that's
Speaker 1: impacting it. But you see his big playability at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. You know he can. He's always
Speaker 1: a threat to bust one and that's why he needs
Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, for the for the news, for the crowd,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be saying Zeko and all of that slow
Speaker 1: down gym shoes. Okay, that's not what's that's not what's
Speaker 1: going on. Because here's the thing, and Rob, you're exactly right.
Speaker 1: Before that forty yard run, he only had twenty twenty
Speaker 1: nine yards, So that was big for him in his
Speaker 1: final numbers. But up until that point, guys are it
Speaker 1: was the perpetual ineptitude of our running game that you saw.
Speaker 1: We couldn't get anything going, and maybe it's because of
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Finally we get an opportunity to run
Speaker 1: that Tony polit shows his explosion for that forty yard game.
Speaker 1: But still, you know, we're in a situation where we
Speaker 1: could not establish the running game at all, and it
Speaker 1: was not for the defense getting a short yardage like that,
Speaker 1: we might have been in trouble with trying to manufacture
Speaker 1: a long drives and so, you know, I appreciate what
Speaker 1: Tony Poler did. I think that his skill set as
Speaker 1: a receiver is awful display. All this does for me
Speaker 1: is gives me the reassurance and Tony Pollard and his
Speaker 1: ability if ever, Zeke is inactive because of health, but
Speaker 1: I think that this gives us more of an incentive
Speaker 1: to make sure that we balance our running attack with
Speaker 1: Zeke and Tony Pollard. Gives you a big have a question,
Speaker 1: go for it. Yes, I'm sorry, Carl. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys, And I guess
Speaker 1: really for everybody out there, there's so much talk and
Speaker 1: so much pressure being applied to Zeke and now Tony Pollard,
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, oh, you know what he's got, he's
Speaker 1: getting paid this, or you know, we need to see
Speaker 1: more of this. What do people feel is more important?
Speaker 1: What do you guys feels more important? Which one has
Speaker 1: the biggest effect on the run. Is it the running
Speaker 1: back or is it is it the blockers in front
Speaker 1: of the running back? The offensive line blockers? Yeahsive line. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of talk around Zeke and all
Speaker 1: Zeke's fell off and oh he's not as effective as
Speaker 1: he used to be, and be like, understand this, people,
Speaker 1: understand this. If if you're playing with your third string
Speaker 1: officsive line, and that third string officsive line is playing
Speaker 1: against the first string or even the second string office
Speaker 1: a defensive line, guess what. The holes just aren't going
Speaker 1: to be there, right, They're not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be as effective as a back because I don't have
Speaker 1: the holes that I had before. Right, So it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if Zeke's in there. It doesn't matter if Poler's
Speaker 1: in there. I know we're talking about how Polar only
Speaker 1: had eleven carries, you know, twenty nine yards before before
Speaker 1: the big run. But the reality is, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: who you put back there. Okay, Kyle, can you get
Speaker 1: back there and put on a helmet right and put
Speaker 1: on his slurs and saying and be and try to
Speaker 1: hit the gap. I can put that gap anyway. You
Speaker 1: can try to. You're probably gonna butt fumble like they
Speaker 1: like the other guys did last week, you know. But
Speaker 1: the thing is, if the holes aren't there, you can't run.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how great of a running back that
Speaker 1: you have on your roster, so as much attention as
Speaker 1: being placed on these guys. That's why I say that.
Speaker 1: You know, Kelly Moore did a heck of a job
Speaker 1: this week, and utilizing um Polar's assets and his abilities
Speaker 1: simply because hey, guess we're running into the back of
Speaker 1: guys is not going to work, right, So let's try
Speaker 1: this right, And let's try this and guess what. Pollard
Speaker 1: can also catch the ball, so let's put him out here,
Speaker 1: so let's utilize him in all these different ways because
Speaker 1: our office ave line honestly just isn't creating the same hole.
Speaker 1: I completely agree with him also defensive game, completely agree
Speaker 1: with you here. I'm gonna stick with this really quickly, Heckman,
Speaker 1: because I want to add to what Isaiah just said.
Speaker 1: But Tony Pollard did exactly what you want Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: to do. That's exactly what you brought him into. Do
Speaker 1: you want him to run every once in a while
Speaker 1: then break a big play, right? His big playability is
Speaker 1: what makes Tony Pollard special, what allows him to make
Speaker 1: those big plays. He's done it with Zeke throughout his career.
Speaker 1: I mean, Zeke is the one that sets up the
Speaker 1: big play for Tony Pollard. Zeke can break a big
Speaker 1: play every now and again. We've seen it throughout his career.
Speaker 1: The only argument that I think you have, Isaiah, whenever
Speaker 1: it comes to Ezekiel Elliott, it's not that he's a
Speaker 1: better football player than Tony Pollard. That's obvious. I think
Speaker 1: at least I think all four of us would agree
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott is better than Tony Pollard. But whenever it
Speaker 1: comes to his contract, his contract is what tells him
Speaker 1: that he needs to be more elite and not just
Speaker 1: a runner. He needs to be elite behind no matter
Speaker 1: who's blocking for him. And that's where I think the
Speaker 1: frustration comes from from Cowboys fans. And yes, we've talked
Speaker 1: about this before and I feel like it's a broken record,
Speaker 1: But it's a debate that's going to continue into the
Speaker 1: offseason because there's decisions that have to be made around
Speaker 1: that contract and where that salary cap is going to
Speaker 1: be allocated. And Tony Pollard yesterday didn't really do a
Speaker 1: ton for my confidence in terms of how this team
Speaker 1: can't fare without Ezekiel Elliott because eleven carries for twenty
Speaker 1: nine yards before he broke the forty yard or at
Speaker 1: the end of the game, does not make me confident
Speaker 1: in this running game. No matter if it's heck Ma
Speaker 1: Harrison and Rob Phillips blocking for Tony Pollard upfront, or
Speaker 1: if it's that the starting offensive line, You've got to
Speaker 1: be able to run more efficiently than eleven for twenty
Speaker 1: nine and they finally broke one right at the end,
Speaker 1: You're absolutely great. But my question to you and everybody is,
Speaker 1: how can you if you're not a shifty back, right,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're not a if you're not a
Speaker 1: Sean McCoy, if you're not a Barry Standard, which is
Speaker 1: not one of these elusive backs, which is not what
Speaker 1: Zeke is, Right, how can you be exceptional if you
Speaker 1: don't have the holes to hit? Right? If you take
Speaker 1: if you take the fumbles out of Zeke's season this year, right,
Speaker 1: I can answer to everybody's leaning at all. He's fumbling
Speaker 1: the ball, you have bad games, Okay, if you take
Speaker 1: the fumbles out, what do you expect him to do
Speaker 1: if there are any holes? He's not that type of
Speaker 1: back and people are asking, oh, well, why don't you
Speaker 1: pay him all that money because he always falls forward guys.
Speaker 1: He always files forward and he's a threat. He blocks,
Speaker 1: He blocks really well. When the team's decide to blitz, right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blitz a little bit more, just like we
Speaker 1: saw yesterday, right the officer line did a good job
Speaker 1: for the most part. He only got sacked twice, I
Speaker 1: think Andy Dalton. But you blitz a little bit more
Speaker 1: when you know that that Zeke's not back there to
Speaker 1: fill the gap on that linebacker, that safety coming through
Speaker 1: the hole. I'm gonna send my guys a few more times,
Speaker 1: because guess what, I might get home right, But when
Speaker 1: I have Poler back there or somebody else who's not
Speaker 1: as great as blocking, guess what, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: send those guys. But when I see Zeke, when I
Speaker 1: see Zeke, it's just not worth it because we're probably
Speaker 1: not gonna get home. Right. So he helps you in
Speaker 1: the passing game in that regard. Maybe not certainly in
Speaker 1: the form of receptions, but in terms of protection, he
Speaker 1: helps you. He helps Dak, he helps you know, Dalton,
Speaker 1: he helps all these guys whoever's in the dog on position,
Speaker 1: a quarterback, he helps him when it comes to running
Speaker 1: the ball. Zeke is gonna fall forward, He's gonna bush
Speaker 1: you in the mouth. Is no different than dog On Marshawn,
Speaker 1: My dog Marshawn. It was gonna be physical. You knew
Speaker 1: what you knew what you were getting into it. And
Speaker 1: when you played against Seattle back then, he was gonna
Speaker 1: hit you in the mouth. Whether he got outside the
Speaker 1: tackles or not, you knew you're gonna have a hard
Speaker 1: time bringing him down, right, And that's what he brought
Speaker 1: to the game. That's what Zeke brings you the game,
Speaker 1: the physicality. He's not gonna be shifty, so stop expecting
Speaker 1: that from him. He's gonna shure up the fumbles. Of course,
Speaker 1: any running back he needs to do that. But let's
Speaker 1: stop that. Man. People need to stop talking about, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's not as effective. No, he's not because he's playing
Speaker 1: with his third string guys, and let's andy and he's
Speaker 1: I don't think he's been healthy for a few weeks either. Heck, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Kyle got Isaiah's blood pressure up right now, I've actually
Speaker 1: got one more thing to get his blood pressure up.
Speaker 1: Just one, just one more thing. You want to keep
Speaker 1: this going. How how much does the offensive line affect
Speaker 1: fumbles for Ezekiel Elliott. How much? How much does the
Speaker 1: offensive line affect the fumbles? Because thing for Zeke's game
Speaker 1: dropping off in twenty twenty, he has fumbled the mention
Speaker 1: more twice as much more. I mentioned that I know
Speaker 1: you did, but I'm just saying, how does how does that?
Speaker 1: How do you? How do you correlate that? Whenever it
Speaker 1: comes to a ninety million dollars respect that you're paying
Speaker 1: to fall forward one yard? He gotta hold up, absolutely,
Speaker 1: So check me out. So let's freaking talk about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's talk about I'm not I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: somebody to plays glame anywhere. You guys know, I take
Speaker 1: full accountability for anything. I was saying, I'll stand behind everything.
Speaker 1: So Zeke fumbled the ball entirely too much this year, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and guess what, I guarantee you he'll figure that out.
Speaker 1: He has figured that out right, Since he had those issues,
Speaker 1: he hasn't fumbled anymore. He's human. Humans make mistakes, right,
Speaker 1: Humans make mistakes. I don't care how much youre getting paid.
Speaker 1: Makes mistakes, Jeff, Jeff Jeff Bezos makes mistakes, right. Everybody
Speaker 1: makes mistakes, So let's not act like he's like, he's
Speaker 1: just super human. That's just not going to fumble the ball.
Speaker 1: He has to tidy those things up. There's aspects of
Speaker 1: his game that he has to improve upon. Can you
Speaker 1: believe that? Can you believe that he has to improve
Speaker 1: a certain aspects of his game? So, yes, he has
Speaker 1: to tighten that up, right, But he is still a
Speaker 1: super effective running back. I don't care how much you're
Speaker 1: paying him, and know the office of lineman can't make
Speaker 1: him fumble, No, unless you's fumbling off somebody's but okay.
Speaker 1: But but what they can do is take it to
Speaker 1: the point where he's so frustrated with his inability to
Speaker 1: get holes and be able to get across the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage to now he's doing things that are outside
Speaker 1: of himself. When he starts doing things that are outside
Speaker 1: of himself, guess what. The ball security stops becoming as
Speaker 1: important as it once was, because now I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out a way to get across the line screws.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out way to make a big play.
Speaker 1: So the things in which I used to focus on,
Speaker 1: I'm no order focusing on because I'm trying to make
Speaker 1: other things happen. So no they can't, but yes they
Speaker 1: do affect it because now he's doing things outside of himself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: talked in a while, So right now it's not but
Speaker 1: it's hot right now. I like. I like it. But
Speaker 1: you know, I think what you're asking, and I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people when it comes down to Zeke,
Speaker 1: they are illusion football on football illusionists, right. You think
Speaker 1: that this guy is supposed to be the same guy
Speaker 1: that he was four years ago with that great offensive
Speaker 1: line behind. That's what no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, it's it's what it is is his
Speaker 1: inability to do all of the things that are in
Speaker 1: his wheelhouse to do because of the guys up front
Speaker 1: not being able to get their job done. I promise you,
Speaker 1: Kyle this, this show wouldn't work as fluid as it
Speaker 1: does if you came up short on your job as
Speaker 1: the host, right, there would be some things that we
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to do. That's the same thing for
Speaker 1: the offensive line. It's hand and glove. These things work together.
Speaker 1: So for you to not give credence to one thing
Speaker 1: and then spot and say, oh, you're making all this
Speaker 1: money to actually do this, it doesn't matter if he
Speaker 1: doesn't have an offensive line to create those holes. It's
Speaker 1: hard for any running back to do that. Now as
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, if you have a quarterback that could
Speaker 1: just get back there and throw that thing eighty yards
Speaker 1: and you have a guy like Megatron or a fast
Speaker 1: guy's fast twitch guy that can go get the ball,
Speaker 1: that may be a whole another subject entirely. All right,
Speaker 1: when you look at Cooper his numbers, maybe you can
Speaker 1: relate that to that. But to say that the money
Speaker 1: that Zeke is getting paid is in some way he's
Speaker 1: at fault for earning that contract and now he's not
Speaker 1: living up to it because he's running behind a third
Speaker 1: and fourth string offensive line, I think that's short sided.
Speaker 1: And I think for that man, I think it's people
Speaker 1: that don't really understand the game of football and what
Speaker 1: guys have to do in order to be good in
Speaker 1: this league. And you know what the contract is, what
Speaker 1: it is, man Like, they were trying to win it,
Speaker 1: they were trying to win a super Bowl last year.
Speaker 1: They thought they had a super Bowl team. They needed
Speaker 1: to get him back into camp and they thought he
Speaker 1: earned it anyway, And I think I think it's been
Speaker 1: a weird year to evaluate him on a lot of levels.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's had a good year. By his standards,
Speaker 1: it hasn't been a good year. Look at his numbers,
Speaker 1: you look at his fumbles. You guys have covered that.
Speaker 1: I would say I thought he ran the ball pretty
Speaker 1: well early in the season when most of the offense
Speaker 1: was healthy, but they got behind in games. Some of
Speaker 1: that was his fault with fumbles, and it was hard
Speaker 1: to really evaluate the running game as a whole. And
Speaker 1: then now there's so many guys missing, I think it's
Speaker 1: even harder to evaluate it. So I just I'm not
Speaker 1: giving him a full mull again for this season. But
Speaker 1: I do think when they're healthy as a group next year,
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a better Zeke and I
Speaker 1: think you're going to see a better off and hopefully
Speaker 1: they're not turning it over and they've got some leads
Speaker 1: and that's when you can really bring his game into
Speaker 1: play instead of you know, you're trying to score fifty
Speaker 1: points to beat the Falcons like you did earlier in
Speaker 1: the season. I agree, I think twenty twenty one will
Speaker 1: be a better year for Ezekiel Elliott, but it's it's
Speaker 1: tough right now because of the frustration with him, the
Speaker 1: frustrage ttration of course that it kind of built up
Speaker 1: from the fumbles and all of the things that go
Speaker 1: into that. But I like the debate, I really do.
Speaker 1: I think it is a debate because the contract is
Speaker 1: what it is. Like you said, Rob, it's signed, it's sealed,
Speaker 1: it's delivered, It's going to be there no matter what.
Speaker 1: And sure there are some decisions down the road that
Speaker 1: could be made to maybe counteract that, but it's going
Speaker 1: to be tough to do that anyways. And then you
Speaker 1: have Ezekiel Elliott who can continue to evolve as a
Speaker 1: running back, and hopefully he evolves upwards rather than downwards.
Speaker 1: Whenever we come back and look at this later on,
Speaker 1: maybe into the off season and into twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: But when we come back here on Talking Cowboys, how
Speaker 1: are those playoff chances looking? Rob said five percent? But
Speaker 1: I want to see exactly what you guys think the
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Speaker 1: now improved to five and nine with their forty one
Speaker 1: thirty three win over the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: And what was really a fun game, Rob you mentioned
Speaker 1: earlier talking about shame on NBC if flexing that football
Speaker 1: game because it actually was a really fun game. I
Speaker 1: agree that they should have flexed it at that point,
Speaker 1: but I mean it ended up being a better game
Speaker 1: than what they got last night whenever Cleveland took down
Speaker 1: New York twenty to six, And that thus puts the
Speaker 1: Cowboys at second place in the NFC East at the moment,
Speaker 1: one game back of Washington with two games to play.
Speaker 1: And I mentioned right up at the top of the
Speaker 1: show that Washington has Carolina than Philly the final two
Speaker 1: weeks of the season. The Cowboys have Philadelphia coming up
Speaker 1: this Sunday at three twenty five, and then they've got
Speaker 1: the Giants at noon kickoff back after the New year
Speaker 1: on January third. So there's a lot writing on this week.
Speaker 1: Week sixteen is most likely going to decide who wins
Speaker 1: this division between three teams, the Cowboys, the Washington Football team,
Speaker 1: and the New York Giants. Maybe the Eagles if you
Speaker 1: really wanted to throw them in there, but I think
Speaker 1: they're pretty much out of it as well. But whenever
Speaker 1: you look at this division, Rob, you said five percent
Speaker 1: chance from the New York Times model, what would your
Speaker 1: percentage be for the Cowboys? Because if you beat Philly
Speaker 1: and somehow those Carolina Panthers go after and beat Washington,
Speaker 1: you are really sitting in a pretty good spot going
Speaker 1: into the final week of the year. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the thing about it is I would put it about
Speaker 1: five percent. I think it's New York Times had one
Speaker 1: percent last week by their model, and it was ESPN
Speaker 1: five thirty eight with five percent today. So I put
Speaker 1: it about five percent. But so much has to go
Speaker 1: right for the Cowboys and Washington. You know, if they
Speaker 1: get Alex Smith back this week, if they get Antonio
Speaker 1: Gibson back, they get some guys back, kind of feel
Speaker 1: like they can beat Carolina. Now Carolina has lost some
Speaker 1: I think three pretty close games in a row. They
Speaker 1: might be due. But the Cowboys just need so much help.
Speaker 1: And but the thing about it is, I think all
Speaker 1: three teams, even all four teams, if you want to
Speaker 1: count Philly, you know, you just know what, don't really
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get from any of the four
Speaker 1: teams week to week, So you can't really feel confident
Speaker 1: in anything. It doesn't seem like a great chance for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys still, but it does kind of feel like,
Speaker 1: you know that Cleveland Golden States series in twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: where it was like, you know, you know, Golden States
Speaker 1: up three one, and all of a sudden it's three two,
Speaker 1: and it's like, but yeah, you think they still got it,
Speaker 1: but you never know. You never know. No, don't, don't
Speaker 1: bring the trophy out yet, like in that series, Thanks
Speaker 1: Draymond for the Cowboys. They just have to have blinder zone.
Speaker 1: They have to have blinder zone and control what they
Speaker 1: can control. There's so much going on and they don't
Speaker 1: know anything. They can't game plan for Charlotte, Well Carolina,
Speaker 1: for the Washington football team, they can't do any of that.
Speaker 1: So just getting to the game plan for Sunday against
Speaker 1: say a quarterback, that's gonna be, that's gonna have be.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a threat for our defense. They just
Speaker 1: have to control that. And so looking too far ahead
Speaker 1: and talking about the help and percentages and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: I'm sure this this team they won't accept it. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure coach Mike McCarthy won't accept any of it either.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put minds at forty three percent. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: pretty three percent. Yeah, I actually feel pretty good about it, man.
Speaker 1: I think if Carolina is gonna get up for any game,
Speaker 1: what game would they get up for their former head coach,
Speaker 1: their former head coach. So there's a lot more than
Speaker 1: just just a regular football game this coming week for
Speaker 1: them um obviously, and a thing for us. We've already
Speaker 1: faced a number of running quarterbacks this year, so I
Speaker 1: think we should feel pretty good about going against Jalen
Speaker 1: hurts Um and then going into that last week. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously we know what would be what would
Speaker 1: be writing on that game for us, But in terms
Speaker 1: of Washington, you know, Philadelphia will have an opportunity at
Speaker 1: that moment to to really just just kill their whole season.
Speaker 1: So I think they have two tough games. They have
Speaker 1: a rivalry game within their within their their coaches here
Speaker 1: coming up, and then they'll have it. They'll be playing
Speaker 1: against a team that is going to literally try to
Speaker 1: send them packing, send them home packing. So they have
Speaker 1: two rough weeks, and we have two weeks in which
Speaker 1: we have nothing but motivation, nothing but motivation. It'll be
Speaker 1: tough to slow down Jalen Hurts. So this guy's not
Speaker 1: just a running quarterback anymore. I mean, he had three
Speaker 1: touchdown pass in the first half against Arizona to come
Speaker 1: back and get back within that game. I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun matchup. No, no disrespect, I'll dispect
Speaker 1: by that. I'm talking about like Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: We've already faced these guys right who have the ability
Speaker 1: to do both tomorrow and both probably you know, overall better.
Speaker 1: They're better quarterbacks than he is at this point. So
Speaker 1: I think that we're probably better prepared to face a
Speaker 1: quarterback like Jalen Hursts in majority of the teams that
Speaker 1: Philly's facing right now. I agree, I definitely agree. I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot that goes into that, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna break down that game coming up later in the week.
Speaker 1: Remember though, sending your fan questions forward tomorrow as it's
Speaker 1: a fans on the fifty Tuesday. We've got shows Wednesday
Speaker 1: and Thursday as well. We'll be off for Christmas Day
Speaker 1: on Friday. But once again, the Cowboys get a forty
Speaker 1: one thirty three win over the San Francisco forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: and my guy Jail on the chat reminded me, I
Speaker 1: want to say a shout out to how about Dez
Speaker 1: Bryant instead of doing the instead of doing this, how
Speaker 1: about the touchdown catch for Dez and doing the X
Speaker 1: for Dez Bryan as he taught a touchdown here yesterday
Speaker 1: for the first time in three years. That's fantastic, very
Speaker 1: happy for Daz and cool to see that and his
Speaker 1: comeback really kind of complete, or at least you see
Speaker 1: his arrival again with that touchdown pass yesterday. But that's
Speaker 1: gonna do it for us here on Talking Cowboys. Thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us here over the last forty five minutes.
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