WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: The Pollard Factor

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>training live from the Dallas Cowboys World hears at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Friscollowing the line saw Letty and now your

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<v Speaker 1>hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen of the Internet and of the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>app and of all over the world, welcome into a

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<v Speaker 1>victory Monday edition of Talking Cowboys. Here from the s

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<v Speaker 1>WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star in Frisco to the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys take down the San Francisco forty nine miners

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<v Speaker 1>for win number five of the twenty twenty campaign forty

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<v Speaker 1>one thirty three the final score from AT and T

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium last night. We're gonna break it all down for

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<v Speaker 1>you here on Talking Cowboys, presented as always by the

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<v Speaker 1>great folks over at Geiko. Kyle Yeoman's with you alongside

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<v Speaker 1>our resident Super Bowl Champion Isaiah dan Bank. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys insider Rob Phillips down to the bottom right hand

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<v Speaker 1>corner and professional football analyst heck My Harrison, and along

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<v Speaker 1>with your title Heck Mom, I'm gonna go with professional

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<v Speaker 1>tree decorator because he's got his battery paid off and

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<v Speaker 1>in the left side of his screen it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit bigger than your up down. Heck hey, d First

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<v Speaker 1>of us, Kyle, do not get me in any trouble

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<v Speaker 1>with that title. Okay, because all of the credit to

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<v Speaker 1>decorating this tree belongs to my daughter Kia and my

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<v Speaker 1>wife Nicky, So this is this is their creation. They

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<v Speaker 1>did this, so fantastic kudoson my daughter kid and wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like Rockefeller Center back there. It looks like time

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<v Speaker 1>to where I love it. You know, Kia is the

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<v Speaker 1>real star of the family. But also not to mention,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Isaiah, you're pretty much a star for getting Heckma,

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<v Speaker 1>you said those are Bluetooth lights. You like, you're working

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<v Speaker 1>with Bluetooth on this tree. So how does that? Hero?

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<v Speaker 1>I you can hook this thing up, it goes, you

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<v Speaker 1>can sync it with your phone, and you could play

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<v Speaker 1>it with your music. So I was thinking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having a little little John Christmas going this weekend, So

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<v Speaker 1>just no, it's all Isaiah lost the bat, he shipped

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<v Speaker 1>the tree, and Heckma put it up this weekend. Looks fantastic, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>you look very festive here in the week of Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy holidays to everyone, no matter what you celebrate. But yeah, Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are celebrating a win yesterday and an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to stay alive in the playoff hunt at least for

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<v Speaker 1>another week because Washington lost to Seattle. Big time week

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<v Speaker 1>coming up this week in really how things are going

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<v Speaker 1>to shape out in the NFC East. But Rob, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you think about yesterday's matchup with the forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>ers and how the Cowboys came out on top. You're

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<v Speaker 1>telling me that game got flexed? Really a game that

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<v Speaker 1>ends on a kickoff on side return for a touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>and then a hail married. NFL decided to flex that game.

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<v Speaker 1>For shame, NBC, for shame, you missed a good one

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<v Speaker 1>between two teams that are that are really struggling. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why, I mean, half of us picked the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>half of us picked the forty nine ers on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's because they're in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>ways the same team. They're flawed, they have injuries, they

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<v Speaker 1>have problems taking care of the ball, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the difference. Cowboys now with a plus seven turnover ratio

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<v Speaker 1>in their last two wins, a two game winning streak,

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<v Speaker 1>now first of the season. I saw on last week

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Times statistical model, So the Cowboys have

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<v Speaker 1>a one percent chance to win the NFC East. I

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<v Speaker 1>apparently that has risen to five percent, So it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. You're telling me there is a chance fer

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<v Speaker 1>five percent. You know, I would disagree with the computer

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<v Speaker 1>on that one, and I'm not a mathematician by any means.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact that you have Washington going up against

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina this week, which is a winnable game for Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's very losable, especially if Alex Smith is unavailable,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Cowboys somehow, if they can take down

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles, I think the Cowboys are sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>driver's seat going into week seventeen. But we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that a little bit later. On Isaiah, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about this offense yesterday and kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton and that offensive line responded whenever San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>brought the heat, especially at the back half of the

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<v Speaker 1>second quarter and then right after that halftime break. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel good about it, and I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge the fact that you know, I know. Heck, we

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<v Speaker 1>just alluded to you prior to us coming on the

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<v Speaker 1>show the cow that you were listening to the E

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<v Speaker 1>forty versus two short verses. You know, obviously you were

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<v Speaker 1>listening to E four O, but the Cowboys were listening

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<v Speaker 1>to that forty burger because because they got that forty

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<v Speaker 1>on there. Um. But no, these guys played pretty dog

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<v Speaker 1>on well, they played pretty well. Man. I'm actually proud

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys. They've come a long way. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this chemistry has continued to build every week. We've had

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<v Speaker 1>some form of adversity every every week. We I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think since week one, I don't think we've had our

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<v Speaker 1>entire squad squadron out there, um as I as I've

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<v Speaker 1>been watching The Mandalorian. But yeah, I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously this is we going to this week and Zeke's

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<v Speaker 1>out and Paula has to step up. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>gets sixty some yards Russian sixty some of yards receiving.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Kellen Moore continues to expand his repertoire. He

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<v Speaker 1>brought out some stops that I haven't seen him do

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<v Speaker 1>this year, um, that were within the frame of our offense.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't no crazy reverses and reverse passes and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just some misdirection. And you know, he he

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much been watching the film against our defense because

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<v Speaker 1>he did exactly, um what works against our defense against

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<v Speaker 1>against this this team. So very proud of these guys, man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they did what they what was required to

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<v Speaker 1>get a win. And not only that, these guys played

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<v Speaker 1>complimentary football. I know we talked about it in the

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<v Speaker 1>postgame show yesterday called but complimentary football. Your defense gets

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<v Speaker 1>you the ball, guess what, go score? Right now, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a give and take relationship. Nobody who just wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be a relationship where you're just receiving. No, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>tough relationship for me. You know, look, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be I'm not gonna be the debbut downer for this

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<v Speaker 1>victory because we got one, right, we got this victory.

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<v Speaker 1>It was tough. There were a lot of momentum swings

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<v Speaker 1>in this game. Offensively, I just liked the fact that that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we were sitting in position a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times just with a short field, and it made it

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<v Speaker 1>easy for us to punch it in. There were times

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<v Speaker 1>where Andy Dalton was plot on with his throws, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there were other times where the running game wasn't there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's when Kellen Moore on some plays

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<v Speaker 1>had to go into his bag and try and pull

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<v Speaker 1>out a few gadget plays. But luckily those didn't cost

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<v Speaker 1>us defensively. Who are these guys? I mean, four turnovers

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday and we've been talking about getting turnovers all season long,

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<v Speaker 1>and that just hadn't been something that this Cowboys team

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<v Speaker 1>has been able to manufacture. But you see how easy,

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<v Speaker 1>how easy it makes the game flow for your offense

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<v Speaker 1>when you can set them up in prime position. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a free safety that breaks on a ball. How

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<v Speaker 1>about that, you know to get an interception and Tank Lawrence,

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<v Speaker 1>Tank Lawrence played his tail off yesterday. And so kudos

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<v Speaker 1>to the defense. That a lot of things that obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we could scrutinize or criticize them for, but look, they

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<v Speaker 1>mitigated a lot of that stuff and pulled out a

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<v Speaker 1>great victory. And whenever it comes to the defense, you

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<v Speaker 1>have the four turnovers and two fumbles in the first half,

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<v Speaker 1>one on special teams won on the defensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the football. Then you had the two picks in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter, one to Anthony Brown his first interception of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty and his fifth of his career. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>had Donovan Wilson, like you said, breaking toward the football.

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<v Speaker 1>And I asked Stephen Jones earlier this week, and I

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<v Speaker 1>asked him, do you feel like you've found that guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like Donovan Wilson is finally that safety

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<v Speaker 1>that you've been waiting for, the hard hitter, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who forces turnovers, and he forces another one in his

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<v Speaker 1>first game back after missing a couple due to injury.

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<v Speaker 1>And he looked fine out there. I really did. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he looked fantastic. And then you have the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>coming in and getting some reinforcements. Cheeta Woozier's back, Trayvon

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<v Speaker 1>Digs's back, Anthony Brown is back, and all four of

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<v Speaker 1>those top corners are available at one point in the game. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you lost Xavier Woods later on in the matchup yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>But with that being said, you had six of your

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<v Speaker 1>your dbs. You had your top six dbs finally available.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob How huge is that for the defense, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to evaluate what that secondary is going to

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<v Speaker 1>look like going into next season. Oh, it's absolutely huge.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's A that's a continuity problem on this

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<v Speaker 1>roster that we probably haven't talked abou enough this year.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about missing Dak, we talked about the offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about um injuries to the defensive line and

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<v Speaker 1>moving on from players on the defensive line, but not

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<v Speaker 1>not the secondary as much. And I think, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you watched Jordan Lewis, who's been kind of the constant

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<v Speaker 1>the last few games he's been healthy, and uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>put together another solid performance in terms of just being

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<v Speaker 1>around the football, stopping the run, sack. Uh, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>solid and pass coverage. So I think, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>one of several guys going into his contract year and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's playing well as the season ends. But yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>continuity has been big. Look, they they gave up four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty eight yards that is that is the

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<v Speaker 1>three points. That's the second highest total that they've allowed

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Uh, you know in San Franco had one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty rushing yards. That was kind of to

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<v Speaker 1>be expected. Wasn't three hundred, So that that was progress,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know that's progress. They cut, they cut in half,

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<v Speaker 1>they cut in half, So yes, they look, you can

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<v Speaker 1>you've got you can give up yardage, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna happen. But if you can get takeaways, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you win games. I mean, Mike McCarthy's not a

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<v Speaker 1>big stats guy, but turnovers are the leading stat for him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the size football games. He's not wrong. Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>had eleven takeaways in the first twelve games. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>seven in the last two games. It's not a coincidence

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<v Speaker 1>that they won two games in a row, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And good thing that McCarthy isn't a stats guy, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the offensive stats, they weren't very good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, two hundred and ninety one yards on fifty

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<v Speaker 1>eight plays and you had only the eighty seven on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground two oh nine for Andy Daltson yesterday. So

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<v Speaker 1>offensively the stats weren't there. You weren't very good on

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<v Speaker 1>third down six of fifteen, which is forty percent, so

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<v Speaker 1>you have to see some improvement throughout. But you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really need this offense heckma I mean, whenever you came

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<v Speaker 1>to the turnovers, it ended up pushing them into position

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<v Speaker 1>to where they took advantage twenty four points of their

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<v Speaker 1>forty one came off of turnovers and they took it

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<v Speaker 1>vantage whenever they needed to. Yeah, and a defensive effort

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<v Speaker 1>like that, it covers up in all of your inadequacies

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what it did for the offense. And you know, look,

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<v Speaker 1>there's still a lot of things that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>work on. Red zone efficiency still has to be a

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<v Speaker 1>sticking point for this offense. Like you said, third downs,

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<v Speaker 1>we were not very good on third downs, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you get the ball on the twenty two, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it makes it a lot shorter. But also

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton did some really good things that you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a drive in the third quarter where he goes

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen play seventy three yards and it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>the drive that he had to put together to get

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<v Speaker 1>this victory. Kudos to our defensive front to front seven.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes it so much easier when your guys are

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<v Speaker 1>putting pressure on the quarterback and forcing him into Aaron throws.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Mullin as a quarterback man, he was staring

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<v Speaker 1>it down and just making it easy for our guys

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<v Speaker 1>on the back half as well. So all things being considered,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about the continuity of our secondary and guys

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<v Speaker 1>having to play finally having everybody healthy. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>meant a lot to see those guys playing together. But

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<v Speaker 1>also Isaiah said this as a sticking point for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys that are in their contract years

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<v Speaker 1>that the eye and the sky don't lie and they

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<v Speaker 1>can't just lay down. They're playing for their careers and

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<v Speaker 1>you see guys like Cheeto Jordan Lewis playing just like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna put that tape out there so

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone sees that I want to be in this league,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really was. I was proud of guys playing

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<v Speaker 1>up to their potential we've been waiting on and if

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<v Speaker 1>we finally saw it. Isaiah, Yeah, I mean they did

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<v Speaker 1>with what was required to them. I mean that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much at the end of the day. Do they need

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<v Speaker 1>to play better, Absolutely, Could they have had more yards? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Could we have you know, not allowed as many yards? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Every everything you can say, absolutely too, you know, But

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, it's about getting a

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<v Speaker 1>w and and once you get the dumb now you

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<v Speaker 1>can start critiquing and going over all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>they need to improve upon. But um, everything's everything that

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be said. I think it's being a sad Man,

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<v Speaker 1>those guys there, Um, everybody, everybody stepped their game up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as Heckma talked about, you know, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are playing for their careers very very much. So regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of what was going on with your team, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to stand up for yourself and then yourself turns into

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<v Speaker 1>multiple guys doing it, and then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>the team plays better. So um, that's what we saw yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And and the thing about the takeaways, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati game, you know, you could all if you're a skeptic,

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<v Speaker 1>you can argue Cincinnati gave him those turnovers. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they were just careless with the ball. You know, DeMarcus

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence made that turnover happen. Yes, Yes, same thing with

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence Armstrong. Those two picks in the fourth quarter were

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<v Speaker 1>you know, reading and reacting and making a play on

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and being instinctive. And so that's that's not

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<v Speaker 1>pure luck, you know. And so that's that's the sign

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<v Speaker 1>of a defense that is growing. Whether that's that makes

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<v Speaker 1>you makes you happy as a fan with the draft

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<v Speaker 1>pick or not, you know, that is that's right, rob

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<v Speaker 1>it And I think for our defense, just seeing them

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<v Speaker 1>do that makes me believe that they are more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with the scheme they're learning. I mean, it's it's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing to read and react, but if you're you're back

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<v Speaker 1>there and you're guessing on where you need to be in,

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<v Speaker 1>the communication level isn't there. Guys couldn't do that before.

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<v Speaker 1>It just feels like they've simplified their coverages. And we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about high school coverages like this is just court.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a cover for right. It's the same, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same, it's the same, and guys just hadn't been

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<v Speaker 1>able to master it. But the communication hadn't been there.

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<v Speaker 1>When you see guys like Anthony Brown break in front

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<v Speaker 1>of a receiver to get an interception, that's just him

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<v Speaker 1>being comfortable and knowing I'm in zone and I have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy behind me, you know. And just in the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing with Donovan Wilson, he's understanding the cover so

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<v Speaker 1>he can break on the ball. I love that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have to say Andy Dalton, for just like

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<v Speaker 1>a split second there, man, I was having I was

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<v Speaker 1>having delusions of Andy backing the day he had his

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<v Speaker 1>red rifle going there for a quick second, and they,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they want to call him a bus driver,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, facilitator of the office. But he was

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<v Speaker 1>taking with that this was given him, which was a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was always making the good REASO kuldos to

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton for doing that. Well, you saw in this

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<v Speaker 1>game what a true backup quarterback in the NFL looks

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<v Speaker 1>like and what a true starter in the NFL looks like. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people that aren't very happy

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<v Speaker 1>with Andy Dalton because of the losses, because of the

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<v Speaker 1>interceptions early in his Cowboys tenure. But whenever you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Andy Dalton, he's not Dak Prescott. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about an elite quarterback, or at least one that's

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<v Speaker 1>borderline league for some people. Nobody can argue that he's

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<v Speaker 1>borderline A league. I think he's elite. But then you

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<v Speaker 1>have Andy Dalton, who is a true starter in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have Nick Mullins. Nick Mullins is a backup quarterback. CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Bethard is a backup quarterback. Andy Dalton is not that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you saw that yesterday. And the one turning point

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the game was in the third quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>It was twenty four twenty four. San Francisco had rattled

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<v Speaker 1>off ten straight points and it was third down. Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton was under pressure, rolled out to his right and

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<v Speaker 1>had to escape pressure. It wasn't a designed bootleg by

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<v Speaker 1>any means, but he looks down field, tows the sideline

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<v Speaker 1>and delivers a dime into a very tight hole to

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<v Speaker 1>Cede Lamb for forty five yards. The next play, Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>Schultz bings and bangs his way into the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>from twelve yards out. So that was the turning point

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<v Speaker 1>in the game because at that point San Francisco had

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<v Speaker 1>all the momentum, they had the ten points, they were

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<v Speaker 1>finding a way to get to this offensive line. They

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<v Speaker 1>were bringing the pressure and they said, beat us, beat

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<v Speaker 1>us over the top. And that's what Andy Dalton did.

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<v Speaker 1>He towed that sideline and was able to deliver a

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<v Speaker 1>ball that not any of those backup quarterbacks throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL could have potentially done. And that was what ended

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<v Speaker 1>up I think, turning the football game around and making

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco second guests themselves whenever it comes to blitzing

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton and trying to blitz this cowboy's offense. Rob Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the chunk play that you're right, that was huge, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was a dime. And you know, one thing about

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<v Speaker 1>the offense, the takeaways for the defense were so big

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<v Speaker 1>because offensively, Cowboys really needed it. I mean, they had

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time. I'm getting things going. I thought, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what you guys are saying about Andy's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>He's doing exactly what he needs to do as as

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<v Speaker 1>coming in as the backup. Don't turn it over, be solid,

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<v Speaker 1>be protective of the football. But they they they've struggled

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<v Speaker 1>with the chunk plays recently, and I think they only

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<v Speaker 1>had three in the game. Obviously, Tony Pollard's run at

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<v Speaker 1>the end was was awesome. Uh that that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was big time and that that sealed the game. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the other two were to CD one one

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<v Speaker 1>that you reference Kyle, and then the other one I

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<v Speaker 1>think was when he kind of chucked it up to

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<v Speaker 1>CD on the free play on the false start. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're they're still having trouble running the ball. M.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's Zeke, whether it's Tony Pollard. I think some

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<v Speaker 1>of it is starts up front. M. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you've got, like you said, a luxury to have

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<v Speaker 1>a backup quarterback like Andy who can make that play

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<v Speaker 1>when the defense gives it to you. And when your

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<v Speaker 1>defense is balling out like that in terms of giving

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<v Speaker 1>you the ball with short fields, sometimes all you need

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<v Speaker 1>is a couple of chunk plays. You can win the

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<v Speaker 1>game that way. Isaiah, Yeah, I mean yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like I would just say the same thing, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these guys are any dogs doing what's what's

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<v Speaker 1>asked of them. You know, here, don't we don't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything miraculous. You know, they're making plays when they need to.

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<v Speaker 1>The chemistry is improving every week. Confidence is building. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are getting more familiarized on the defensiety of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. That's why you saw them start taking more risk.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Donofan Wilson obviously coming up getting an interception,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up almost getting a second interception. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>really could have walked away. They were there with two

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<v Speaker 1>of those things. Um, all the dbs being back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the continuity that they have, the trust, that's probably a

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<v Speaker 1>word that needs to be utilized. They're starting to trust

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<v Speaker 1>each other, whether it's the scheme, they're getting more confident

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<v Speaker 1>within the scheme, or whether they actually know that that

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<v Speaker 1>each other is gonna be where they're supposed to be regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's resulting in better play um and then deepness aligned.

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys are starting to starting to come together as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Gallamoor came out there and blew some things up

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<v Speaker 1>that that was very important for an inside presence. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Crawford is being where he's supposed to be,

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<v Speaker 1>d Laws coming off playing like he's supposed to play,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the guy that we paid him to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's coming together, man, it's coming together, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>coming together at the right time. Now, he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>keep taking care of business every every play, every game.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hope that hope that a Washington laser egg. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you gotta hope for some help at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>But whenever the Washington football team goes out with Dwayne Haskins,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not the same team that if they had Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Smith out there. So things can happen this week against Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>and things can happen for the Cowboys against Philadelphia, even

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<v Speaker 1>though Philly seems like they have a quarterback now and

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be a tough task for the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. But we'll preview that game throughout the week.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got shows all the way up until Thursday. But

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back here on Talking Cowboys. Was this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a smoke screen game for Tony Pollard and

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<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel Elliott? What is going on in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>running back game? And how can the Cowboys fair without

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one in the future. Should that be a situation.

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<v Speaker 1>driving the bus. But we brought up Tony Pollard in

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<v Speaker 1>the last segment. And Tony had a good game yesterday.

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Whenever you look at the stats in the final final

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 1>totals for Tony Pollard sixty nine yards on twelve carries.

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 1>He had that long run of forty later in the game,

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:18.240
<v Speaker 1>two touchdowns, both on the ground. He also had six

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:22.240
<v Speaker 1>receptions for sixty three yards on nine targets, and out

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 1>of those sixty three yards, thirty of them came on

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:29.680
<v Speaker 1>one reception. But Isaiah, whenever it comes to Tony Pollard,

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and there's so many different ways to think about this,

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>because Ezekiel Elliott was inactive for the first time in

0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>his career. Now he had some suspension stuff earlier, but

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:41.800
<v Speaker 1>in terms of just being a straight healthy or I

0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 1>guess health inactive. He was inactive yesterday because of the

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 1>calf injury. But a lot of people wanted to see

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Tony Pollard. What did you see and how he performed yesterday?

0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought he did pretty well. I think Kella Moore

0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 1>was trying to ensure that he got involved in his

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 1>game and involved early. I think that they the way

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>in which you typically would would use him when he

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 1>was a two headed monster with with Zeke. I think

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:09.359
<v Speaker 1>you just saw that in just full form yesterday. They

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:10.679
<v Speaker 1>tried to feed on the ball. They try to take

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 1>him inside, they try to take them outside. They were

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 1>really trying to find some gaps. You didn't they the

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>White Nines didn't present the gaps that we thought they would,

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, but they did find a way to pass

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the ball to him, and that's where he's sometimes most effective.

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, You've seen a lot of times he's lined

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 1>up in the backfield. They motioned him all the way out,

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:30.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, to a wide split receiver position, um and

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it really declared the fact that they were in zone.

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:33.440
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure it cleared up a lot of things

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.879
<v Speaker 1>for Andy Dalton as well. But they were just very

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 1>diverse in their in their offerings and the presentation in

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 1>their in their form in which they utilized Pollard. I

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>thought it was it was pretty effective. Rob. Yeah, I mean,

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>he it's funny, you know, the six catches. I think

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>going into the game two years in the league now,

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I think his high was four catches in the game,

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and when they drafted him, we kept hearing about, you

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:00.200
<v Speaker 1>know what he can do as a receiver? Can he

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>do in space? And after seeing that yesterday, especially like

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah mentioned early in the game, I'm thinking, what, let's

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>see more of that? Why haven't we seen more of that?

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, I get I give Kellen Moore a lot

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>of credit for I think Heckman mentioned this in the

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>first segment the red zone. I think they're three for

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>three in the red zone. He said last week, I've

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>got to be better calling plays in the red zone,

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and he got creative and they were able to cash

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>in using Tony as a runner down there. But we

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>saw his full skill set on display, and I don't

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't view this as much of a Tony versus

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Zeke thing I wrote about this mid mid season. I

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 1>want to see both of them more. I think with

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>dak out you've got to use your running backs more

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:41.440
<v Speaker 1>help out your quarterback, and I think he's proven he

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>can help you in different ways now as as a

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 1>pure running back back there before the forty yard run,

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you know eleven for twenty nine, you know eleven carries

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>for twenty nine yards. So I think I think we're seeing,

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>regardless of who's back there, they're missing some guys up

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>front on the offensive line, and I think that's that's

0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>impacting it. But you see his big playability at the

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>end of the game. You know he can. He's always

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 1>a threat to bust one and that's why he needs

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 1>to play. Yeah, for the for the news, for the crowd,

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be saying Zeko and all of that slow

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:15.160
<v Speaker 1>down gym shoes. Okay, that's not what's that's not what's

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>going on. Because here's the thing, and Rob, you're exactly right.

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Before that forty yard run, he only had twenty twenty

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 1>nine yards, So that was big for him in his

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:31.119
<v Speaker 1>final numbers. But up until that point, guys are it

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>was the perpetual ineptitude of our running game that you saw.

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>We couldn't get anything going, and maybe it's because of

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line. Finally we get an opportunity to run

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>that Tony polit shows his explosion for that forty yard game.

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>But still, you know, we're in a situation where we

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>could not establish the running game at all, and it

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>was not for the defense getting a short yardage like that,

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>we might have been in trouble with trying to manufacture

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>a long drives and so, you know, I appreciate what

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Tony Poler did. I think that his skill set as

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 1>a receiver is awful display. All this does for me

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>is gives me the reassurance and Tony Pollard and his

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>ability if ever, Zeke is inactive because of health, but

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that this gives us more of an incentive

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that we balance our running attack with

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Zeke and Tony Pollard. Gives you a big have a question,

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:27.239
<v Speaker 1>go for it. Yes, I'm sorry, Carl. I was gonna say,

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you guys, And I guess

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 1>really for everybody out there, there's so much talk and

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 1>so much pressure being applied to Zeke and now Tony Pollard,

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's like, oh, you know what he's got, he's

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 1>getting paid this, or you know, we need to see

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>more of this. What do people feel is more important?

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>What do you guys feels more important? Which one has

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the biggest effect on the run. Is it the running

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>back or is it is it the blockers in front

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>of the running back? The offensive line blockers? Yeahsive line. Yeah.

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of talk around Zeke and all

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Zeke's fell off and oh he's not as effective as

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>he used to be, and be like, understand this, people,

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>understand this. If if you're playing with your third string

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.400
<v Speaker 1>officsive line, and that third string officsive line is playing

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>against the first string or even the second string office

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a defensive line, guess what. The holes just aren't going

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 1>to be there, right, They're not gonna I'm not gonna

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>be as effective as a back because I don't have

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the holes that I had before. Right, So it doesn't

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 1>matter if Zeke's in there. It doesn't matter if Poler's

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>in there. I know we're talking about how Polar only

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>had eleven carries, you know, twenty nine yards before before

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the big run. But the reality is, it doesn't matter

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>who you put back there. Okay, Kyle, can you get

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 1>back there and put on a helmet right and put

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>on his slurs and saying and be and try to

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>hit the gap. I can put that gap anyway. You

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>can try to. You're probably gonna butt fumble like they

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>like the other guys did last week, you know. But

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the thing is, if the holes aren't there, you can't run.

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter how great of a running back that

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 1>you have on your roster, so as much attention as

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>being placed on these guys. That's why I say that.

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, Kelly Moore did a heck of a job

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>this week, and utilizing um Polar's assets and his abilities

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 1>simply because hey, guess we're running into the back of

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>guys is not going to work, right, So let's try

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>this right, And let's try this and guess what. Pollard

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>can also catch the ball, so let's put him out here,

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>so let's utilize him in all these different ways because

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>our office ave line honestly just isn't creating the same hole.

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I completely agree with him also defensive game, completely agree

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>with you here. I'm gonna stick with this really quickly, Heckman,

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>because I want to add to what Isaiah just said.

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>But Tony Pollard did exactly what you want Tony Pollard

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to do. That's exactly what you brought him into. Do

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you want him to run every once in a while

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>then break a big play, right? His big playability is

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>what makes Tony Pollard special, what allows him to make

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>those big plays. He's done it with Zeke throughout his career.

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Zeke is the one that sets up the

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>big play for Tony Pollard. Zeke can break a big

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>play every now and again. We've seen it throughout his career.

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>The only argument that I think you have, Isaiah, whenever

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it comes to Ezekiel Elliott, it's not that he's a

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>better football player than Tony Pollard. That's obvious. I think

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>at least I think all four of us would agree

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel Elliott is better than Tony Pollard. But whenever it

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>comes to his contract, his contract is what tells him

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 1>that he needs to be more elite and not just

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a runner. He needs to be elite behind no matter

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>who's blocking for him. And that's where I think the

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>frustration comes from from Cowboys fans. And yes, we've talked

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>about this before and I feel like it's a broken record,

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>But it's a debate that's going to continue into the

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>offseason because there's decisions that have to be made around

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>that contract and where that salary cap is going to

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>be allocated. And Tony Pollard yesterday didn't really do a

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>ton for my confidence in terms of how this team

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>can't fare without Ezekiel Elliott because eleven carries for twenty

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>nine yards before he broke the forty yard or at

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>the end of the game, does not make me confident

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>in this running game. No matter if it's heck Ma

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Harrison and Rob Phillips blocking for Tony Pollard upfront, or

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>if it's that the starting offensive line, You've got to

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>be able to run more efficiently than eleven for twenty

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>nine and they finally broke one right at the end,

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely great. But my question to you and everybody is,

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>how can you if you're not a shifty back, right,

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're not a if you're not a

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Sean McCoy, if you're not a Barry Standard, which is

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>not one of these elusive backs, which is not what

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Zeke is, Right, how can you be exceptional if you

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>don't have the holes to hit? Right? If you take

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>if you take the fumbles out of Zeke's season this year, right,

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I can answer to everybody's leaning at all. He's fumbling

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the ball, you have bad games, Okay, if you take

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the fumbles out, what do you expect him to do

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>if there are any holes? He's not that type of

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>back and people are asking, oh, well, why don't you

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>pay him all that money because he always falls forward guys.

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>He always files forward and he's a threat. He blocks,

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>He blocks really well. When the team's decide to blitz, right,

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna blitz a little bit more, just like we

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>saw yesterday, right the officer line did a good job

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>for the most part. He only got sacked twice, I

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>think Andy Dalton. But you blitz a little bit more

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>when you know that that Zeke's not back there to

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>fill the gap on that linebacker, that safety coming through

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the hole. I'm gonna send my guys a few more times,

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.479
<v Speaker 1>because guess what, I might get home right, But when

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I have Poler back there or somebody else who's not

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>as great as blocking, guess what, you know, I'm gonna

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>send those guys. But when I see Zeke, when I

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>see Zeke, it's just not worth it because we're probably

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>not gonna get home. Right. So he helps you in

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the passing game in that regard. Maybe not certainly in

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the form of receptions, but in terms of protection, he

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>helps you. He helps Dak, he helps you know, Dalton,

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>he helps all these guys whoever's in the dog on position,

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback, he helps him when it comes to running

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the ball. Zeke is gonna fall forward, He's gonna bush

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you in the mouth. Is no different than dog On Marshawn,

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>My dog Marshawn. It was gonna be physical. You knew

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>what you knew what you were getting into it. And

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>when you played against Seattle back then, he was gonna

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>hit you in the mouth. Whether he got outside the

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>tackles or not, you knew you're gonna have a hard

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>time bringing him down, right, And that's what he brought

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>to the game. That's what Zeke brings you the game,

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the physicality. He's not gonna be shifty, so stop expecting

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that from him. He's gonna shure up the fumbles. Of course,

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>any running back he needs to do that. But let's

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>stop that. Man. People need to stop talking about, Oh,

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>he's not as effective. No, he's not because he's playing

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>with his third string guys, and let's andy and he's

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's been healthy for a few weeks either. Heck, yeah, yeah,

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Kyle got Isaiah's blood pressure up right now, I've actually

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>got one more thing to get his blood pressure up.

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Just one, just one more thing. You want to keep

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>this going. How how much does the offensive line affect

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 1>fumbles for Ezekiel Elliott. How much? How much does the

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>offensive line affect the fumbles? Because thing for Zeke's game

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>dropping off in twenty twenty, he has fumbled the mention

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>more twice as much more. I mentioned that I know

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you did, but I'm just saying, how does how does that?

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>How do you? How do you correlate that? Whenever it

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>comes to a ninety million dollars respect that you're paying

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to fall forward one yard? He gotta hold up, absolutely,

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>So check me out. So let's freaking talk about it. Okay,

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about I'm not I'm not. I'm not

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>somebody to plays glame anywhere. You guys know, I take

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>full accountability for anything. I was saying, I'll stand behind everything.

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>So Zeke fumbled the ball entirely too much this year, absolutely,

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and guess what, I guarantee you he'll figure that out.

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>He has figured that out right, Since he had those issues,

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't fumbled anymore. He's human. Humans make mistakes, right,

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Humans make mistakes. I don't care how much youre getting paid.

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Makes mistakes, Jeff, Jeff Jeff Bezos makes mistakes, right. Everybody

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.399
<v Speaker 1>makes mistakes, So let's not act like he's like, he's

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>just super human. That's just not going to fumble the ball.

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>He has to tidy those things up. There's aspects of

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>his game that he has to improve upon. Can you

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>believe that? Can you believe that he has to improve

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>a certain aspects of his game? So, yes, he has

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>to tighten that up, right, But he is still a

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.399
<v Speaker 1>super effective running back. I don't care how much you're

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>paying him, and know the office of lineman can't make

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>him fumble, No, unless you's fumbling off somebody's but okay.

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 1>But but what they can do is take it to

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the point where he's so frustrated with his inability to

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 1>get holes and be able to get across the line

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage to now he's doing things that are outside

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>of himself. When he starts doing things that are outside

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>of himself, guess what. The ball security stops becoming as

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>important as it once was, because now I'm trying to

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 1>figure out a way to get across the line screws.

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure out way to make a big play.

0:34:57.600 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>So the things in which I used to focus on,

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm no order focusing on because I'm trying to make

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>other things happen. So no they can't, but yes they

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>do affect it because now he's doing things outside of himself. Yeah,

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 1>talked in a while, So right now it's not but

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>it's hot right now. I like. I like it. But

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think what you're asking, and I think

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people when it comes down to Zeke,

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>they are illusion football on football illusionists, right. You think

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>that this guy is supposed to be the same guy

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.280
<v Speaker 1>that he was four years ago with that great offensive

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>line behind. That's what no, no, no, no, no, no,

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>no no no, it's it's what it is is his

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>inability to do all of the things that are in

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 1>his wheelhouse to do because of the guys up front

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>not being able to get their job done. I promise you,

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Kyle this, this show wouldn't work as fluid as it

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>does if you came up short on your job as

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the host, right, there would be some things that we

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to do. That's the same thing for

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line. It's hand and glove. These things work together.

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 1>So for you to not give credence to one thing

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and then spot and say, oh, you're making all this

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>money to actually do this, it doesn't matter if he

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:23.439
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have an offensive line to create those holes. It's

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>hard for any running back to do that. Now as

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver, if you have a quarterback that could

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.399
<v Speaker 1>just get back there and throw that thing eighty yards

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.919
<v Speaker 1>and you have a guy like Megatron or a fast

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 1>guy's fast twitch guy that can go get the ball,

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>that may be a whole another subject entirely. All right,

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>when you look at Cooper his numbers, maybe you can

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 1>relate that to that. But to say that the money

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:49.839
<v Speaker 1>that Zeke is getting paid is in some way he's

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>at fault for earning that contract and now he's not

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>living up to it because he's running behind a third

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and fourth string offensive line, I think that's short sided.

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think for that man, I think it's people

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>that don't really understand the game of football and what

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>guys have to do in order to be good in

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>this league. And you know what the contract is, what

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>it is, man Like, they were trying to win it,

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>they were trying to win a super Bowl last year.

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>They thought they had a super Bowl team. They needed

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>to get him back into camp and they thought he

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 1>earned it anyway, And I think I think it's been

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>a weird year to evaluate him on a lot of levels.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying he's had a good year. By his standards,

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>it hasn't been a good year. Look at his numbers,

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you look at his fumbles. You guys have covered that.

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I would say I thought he ran the ball pretty

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 1>well early in the season when most of the offense

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 1>was healthy, but they got behind in games. Some of

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>that was his fault with fumbles, and it was hard

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>to really evaluate the running game as a whole. And

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>then now there's so many guys missing, I think it's

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>even harder to evaluate it. So I just I'm not

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>giving him a full mull again for this season. But

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 1>I do think when they're healthy as a group next year,

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I think you're gonna see a better Zeke and I

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>think you're going to see a better off and hopefully

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>they're not turning it over and they've got some leads

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>and that's when you can really bring his game into

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.760
<v Speaker 1>play instead of you know, you're trying to score fifty

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>points to beat the Falcons like you did earlier in

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the season. I agree, I think twenty twenty one will

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>be a better year for Ezekiel Elliott, but it's it's

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>tough right now because of the frustration with him, the

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 1>frustrage ttration of course that it kind of built up

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>from the fumbles and all of the things that go

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>into that. But I like the debate, I really do.

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I think it is a debate because the contract is

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>what it is. Like you said, Rob, it's signed, it's sealed,

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 1>it's delivered, It's going to be there no matter what.

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>And sure there are some decisions down the road that

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>could be made to maybe counteract that, but it's going

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>to be tough to do that anyways. And then you

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 1>have Ezekiel Elliott who can continue to evolve as a

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:46.720
<v Speaker 1>running back, and hopefully he evolves upwards rather than downwards.

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Whenever we come back and look at this later on,

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe into the off season and into twenty twenty one.

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>But when we come back here on Talking Cowboys, how

0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:00.320
<v Speaker 1>are those playoff chances looking? Rob said five percent? But

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to see exactly what you guys think the

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 1>percentage is in terms of the Cowboys making the playoffs

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.680
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<v Speaker 1>now improved to five and nine with their forty one

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<v Speaker 1>And what was really a fun game, Rob you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>game because it actually was a really fun game. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree that they should have flexed it at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean it ended up being a better game

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<v Speaker 1>than what they got last night whenever Cleveland took down

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<v Speaker 1>New York twenty to six, And that thus puts the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys at second place in the NFC East at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>one game back of Washington with two games to play.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mentioned right up at the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>show that Washington has Carolina than Philly the final two

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>weeks of the season. The Cowboys have Philadelphia coming up

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>this Sunday at three twenty five, and then they've got

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants at noon kickoff back after the New year

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 1>on January third. So there's a lot writing on this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Week sixteen is most likely going to decide who wins

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<v Speaker 1>this division between three teams, the Cowboys, the Washington Football team,

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<v Speaker 1>and the New York Giants. Maybe the Eagles if you

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>really wanted to throw them in there, but I think

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty much out of it as well. But whenever

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.839
<v Speaker 1>you look at this division, Rob, you said five percent

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.399
<v Speaker 1>chance from the New York Times model, what would your

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>percentage be for the Cowboys? Because if you beat Philly

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and somehow those Carolina Panthers go after and beat Washington,

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you are really sitting in a pretty good spot going

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>into the final week of the year. Yeah, I think

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the thing about it is I would put it about

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>five percent. I think it's New York Times had one

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<v Speaker 1>percent last week by their model, and it was ESPN

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>five thirty eight with five percent today. So I put

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it about five percent. But so much has to go

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 1>right for the Cowboys and Washington. You know, if they

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 1>get Alex Smith back this week, if they get Antonio

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Gibson back, they get some guys back, kind of feel

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>like they can beat Carolina. Now Carolina has lost some

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I think three pretty close games in a row. They

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>might be due. But the Cowboys just need so much help.

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 1>And but the thing about it is, I think all

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 1>three teams, even all four teams, if you want to

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 1>count Philly, you know, you just know what, don't really

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 1>know what you're gonna get from any of the four

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 1>teams week to week, So you can't really feel confident

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>in anything. It doesn't seem like a great chance for

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:09.320
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys still, but it does kind of feel like,

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.240
<v Speaker 1>you know that Cleveland Golden States series in twenty sixteen

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>where it was like, you know, you know, Golden States

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:17.879
<v Speaker 1>up three one, and all of a sudden it's three two,

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, but yeah, you think they still got it,

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 1>but you never know. You never know. No, don't, don't

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 1>bring the trophy out yet, like in that series, Thanks

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:32.439
<v Speaker 1>Draymond for the Cowboys. They just have to have blinder zone.

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 1>They have to have blinder zone and control what they

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 1>can control. There's so much going on and they don't

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>know anything. They can't game plan for Charlotte, Well Carolina,

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>for the Washington football team, they can't do any of that.

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 1>So just getting to the game plan for Sunday against

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>say a quarterback, that's gonna be, that's gonna have be.

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be a threat for our defense. They just

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<v Speaker 1>have to control that. And so looking too far ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about the help and percentages and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure this this team they won't accept it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure coach Mike McCarthy won't accept any of it either.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put minds at forty three percent. Wow, that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty three percent. Yeah, I actually feel pretty good about it, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if Carolina is gonna get up for any game,

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<v Speaker 1>what game would they get up for their former head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>their former head coach. So there's a lot more than

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<v Speaker 1>just just a regular football game this coming week for

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<v Speaker 1>them um obviously, and a thing for us. We've already

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<v Speaker 1>faced a number of running quarterbacks this year, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should feel pretty good about going against Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>hurts Um and then going into that last week. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously we know what would be what would

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<v Speaker 1>be writing on that game for us, But in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of Washington, you know, Philadelphia will have an opportunity at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment to to really just just kill their whole season.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think they have two tough games. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a rivalry game within their within their their coaches here

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, and then they'll have it. They'll be playing

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<v Speaker 1>against a team that is going to literally try to

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<v Speaker 1>send them packing, send them home packing. So they have

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<v Speaker 1>two rough weeks, and we have two weeks in which

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<v Speaker 1>we have nothing but motivation, nothing but motivation. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>tough to slow down Jalen Hurts. So this guy's not

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<v Speaker 1>just a running quarterback anymore. I mean, he had three

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown pass in the first half against Arizona to come

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<v Speaker 1>back and get back within that game. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a fun matchup. No, no disrespect, I'll dispect

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<v Speaker 1>by that. I'm talking about like Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray.

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<v Speaker 1>We've already faced these guys right who have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to do both tomorrow and both probably you know, overall better.

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<v Speaker 1>They're better quarterbacks than he is at this point. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we're probably better prepared to face a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback like Jalen Hursts in majority of the teams that

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<v Speaker 1>Philly's facing right now. I agree, I definitely agree. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a lot that goes into that, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna break down that game coming up later in the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember though, sending your fan questions forward tomorrow as it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fans on the fifty Tuesday. We've got shows Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>and Thursday as well. We'll be off for Christmas Day

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday. But once again, the Cowboys get a forty

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<v Speaker 1>one thirty three win over the San Francisco forty nine ers,

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<v Speaker 1>and my guy Jail on the chat reminded me, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say a shout out to how about Dez

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<v Speaker 1>Bryant instead of doing the instead of doing this, how

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<v Speaker 1>about the touchdown catch for Dez and doing the X

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<v Speaker 1>for Dez Bryan as he taught a touchdown here yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in three years. That's fantastic, very

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<v Speaker 1>happy for Daz and cool to see that and his

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<v Speaker 1>comeback really kind of complete, or at least you see

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<v Speaker 1>his arrival again with that touchdown pass yesterday. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it for us here on Talking Cowboys. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us here over the last forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>For Chris Beam doing great work as always in the back,

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<v Speaker 1>for heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, and for Isaiah stand Back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long. We'll see you tomorrow morning.

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