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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back George Norie along with author and experiencer

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Speaker 2: of Dark Happenings. Diane Centerfield, was born in Louisville, Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: from a combination of Appalachian, Tennessee and Kentucky coal mining

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Speaker 2: families dating back a century plus and from rural Indiana

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Speaker 2: farmers as well. Her book is called Para Abnormal in Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: a collection of true stories. She was last on about

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Speaker 2: a year and a half ago with our own Connie Wallace. Diane,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. How are you?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Thank you, George. I'm doing good, doing okay.

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Speaker 2: That's good. When we say dark happenings, what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Well? To me, it meant living a basically normal life

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Speaker 3: with just some struggles, typical struggles, and then moving into

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Speaker 3: a house that had demonic activity and it was unbelievable

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Speaker 3: and terrifying. And so that's when I realized there were

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Speaker 3: truly dark things in this world that seemingly God wasn't stopping.

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Speaker 3: But then later on, uh, it came around, and then

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Speaker 3: God did stop.

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Speaker 2: It was your entire family terrified by this, or just you.

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Speaker 3: In the house, the first haunted house. The the spirit

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Speaker 3: in their attacked me and my uh oldest daughter, which

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Speaker 3: was she was only three at the time. The other

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Speaker 3: two children weren't attacked, although my son he would throw

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Speaker 3: a little ball at night and he would tell me, Mommy,

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Speaker 3: the ball stops and comes back to me. And I

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Speaker 3: knew that didn't sound right, you know, it scared me,

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Speaker 3: but I didn't tell him that, so he didn't have

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Speaker 3: the experience that my daughter and I had.

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Speaker 2: And then you wrote a book about eight years ago

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Speaker 2: called Pera Abnormal in Kentucky. Tell us about that title.

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Speaker 3: Well, we had so many things happened, and then my

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Speaker 3: grandchildren wanted me to write everything down, uh, And as

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Speaker 3: I started writing the things down, I realized that we

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Speaker 3: were pretty abnormal. We live in Kentucky. We love Kentucky,

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Speaker 3: and we had coal miners from Kentucky and Tennessee. And

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Speaker 3: it kind of ran through our family a little a

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Speaker 3: little bit, but we didn't realize that at first. We

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Speaker 3: didn't talk about that thing. We didn't particularly believe one

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Speaker 3: way or another until it really invaded our life.

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Speaker 2: And it invaded it in a big way, didn't it.

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Speaker 3: It did. It went from kind of normal to very terrifying,

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Speaker 3: and it followed us for a while and places that

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Speaker 3: I worked it ended up some of the homes were

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Speaker 3: haunted in terrifying stories, and then we had good things

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Speaker 3: and angelic things, and that's when I felt like God

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Speaker 3: stepped in and put an end to that.

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Speaker 2: Are the good and bad experiences, Diane's still happening for you.

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Speaker 3: Smaller now, George. You know, it's dreams, premonitions. Sometimes it

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Speaker 3: helps people save people, give them a little warning, and

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Speaker 3: the other things. Sometimes you get information that you can't

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Speaker 3: do any thing about. You know, you get just enough

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Speaker 3: to know something's probably gonna happen, but you can't stop it,

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Speaker 3: and so you kind of learn to live with that.

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Speaker 2: What what is it about Kentucky that makes some of

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Speaker 2: these things happen as much?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's interesting, you know. I've I've read books through

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Speaker 3: of all through apolection. I don't know if because of

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Speaker 3: the distance in the rural areas, if more activity comes there,

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Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not sure. But there are a lot

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Speaker 3: of books about Kentucky, particularly ghost stories, and I guess

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Speaker 3: all over the United States. But it seems I don't know.

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Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of faith from these rural areas

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Speaker 3: in a very strong faith, and I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 3: that is a ground for demonic activity that maybe they

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Speaker 3: want to invade. I don't know, George, it just seems

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Speaker 2: Did you ever figure out who these entities were haunting

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Speaker 3: In the first half? The house was very old, and

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Speaker 3: it turns out there was a little cemetery that we

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Speaker 3: didn't know about it at the time. You know, the

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Speaker 3: if it came from that. It was a very ugly

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Speaker 3: and uh, that's when the activity really started of the

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Speaker 3: There were things hitting it, pushing on the mattress. Uh.

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Speaker 3: You could feel things rubing across the side of the mattress.

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Speaker 3: It was it was unbelievable, but yet it was happening.

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Speaker 3: And we prayed a lot that night, and we prayed

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Speaker 3: a lot of the other houses. And that was that

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Speaker 3: was very scary because I felt God really wasn't listening,

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Speaker 3: He wasn't answering our prayers, and it was it was

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Speaker 2: At what point in your life, Tianne, did you say

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Speaker 3: Uh. You know, I really didn't UH for years, I Uh.

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Speaker 3: and maybe it could help other people. We were pretty dysfunctional.

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Speaker 3: We were going through a hard time with my husband.

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Speaker 3: Was had some months mental illness, and so life was

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Speaker 3: their life's going very well, maybe they've had it harder

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Speaker 3: than we did, and that God does exist. He cares

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Speaker 3: people we're connected. We are connected, and that He's there.

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Speaker 3: And that was what I came to. I realized that

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Speaker 2: Did the angels come to protect you?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, in the second house that we moved in,

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Speaker 3: when the beds started shaking again, and yeah, my lighter.

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Speaker 3: then said, Mommy, something hit the wall, and I knew

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Speaker 3: and I had a zipple lighter back then I smoked,

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Speaker 3: thrown with what I said, a vengeance. And I just

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Speaker 3: told him my lighter fell, that's okay, But you know,

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Speaker 3: he looked scared. He knew it was more than falling.

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Speaker 3: And we were going to a little church one night

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Speaker 3: I believe it was the Guardian Angel, but it was

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Speaker 3: hard to believe. It was hard to believe. We had

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Speaker 2: What do you think happened in these homes, Diane? To

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Speaker 2: have a demonic Do you think somebody died tragically? What happened?

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Speaker 3: Well? This home, particular home was built about eighteen fifties,

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Speaker 3: And when I looked at that history later, it's a

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Speaker 3: real history of people cheating each other. There was a

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Speaker 3: the time, this was little caretakers home. But I met

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Speaker 3: was looking at that house not closed. I still didn't

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Speaker 3: about it. I said, we used to live there, and

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Speaker 3: she said, I know it's haunted. And she said, my

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Speaker 3: dark history of prospect that you can find them books

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Speaker 3: and whatever happened in the house, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why that activity started. It was We

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Speaker 3: also had heavy footsteps that came up when we first

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Speaker 3: We had problems in our life, and so it was

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Speaker 3: something in there. But it was very dark and it

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Speaker 3: uh it. There were other people who were caretakers in.

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Speaker 3: The electrician that came one day said, you know, people

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been physically hurt by one of these entities?

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Speaker 3: Well, not physically, but emotionally. It it shook me to

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Speaker 3: now there really are monsters in the closets and under

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Speaker 3: the bed. Uh, and there are things in the dark.

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Speaker 3: And I mean it hit me with such a regality.

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Speaker 3: It it shook me, you know. Uh. That was like

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Speaker 3: life can't be like this, It can't really exist, you know,

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Speaker 3: but they do. And I you know, I listened to

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was a hard thing to hear. It's very scary,

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Speaker 3: and uh, I know it, and I read prophecy in

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Speaker 3: her thing. It's just sometimes it's just very scary. So

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm a little undert George. I've got a little

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Speaker 3: breaking up. But you know what I might say about that,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess if we all knew that

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Speaker 3: or five years from now this what's going to happen,

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Speaker 3: we would all be frozen in terror. We would just

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Speaker 3: be like, well, I don't want to have that happen

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Speaker 3: in two years or and so I think the bottom

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Speaker 3: line for me is God is in control and we

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Speaker 3: can go to him for comfort, and we don't know

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Speaker 3: what what each day brings, and certainly we know that

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Speaker 3: we know what's going on in the world, but I

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Speaker 3: think we can't let it, let it paralyze us. We

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Speaker 3: have to live today, and he is our only shelter.

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Speaker 3: I mean we could be hiding in a bunker or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I just think for people who can't move, who don't

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Speaker 3: have the money, that he is our shelter and that's

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Speaker 3: our safest place we can go. Is I guess what

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Speaker 3: I want to say to people and to myself too,

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Speaker 3: that that's he's a shelter he said he would be,

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Speaker 3: and leave it at that and try to just look

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Speaker 3: all the sort of people who act like demons in

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Speaker 3: the sursay steal everything away from us and the bad

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Speaker 3: things to happen. And I think we can't let them

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Speaker 3: still our faith, our hope and our joy because I

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Speaker 3: think God loves us and he doesn't want that for

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Speaker 3: us to be robbed every day of our life and

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Speaker 3: maury and sorrow. So I would just tell people run

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Speaker 3: to him for shelter and let it let it be.

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Speaker 2: You know, you think our previous guests could be wrong.

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Speaker 2: I hope he is.

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Speaker 3: I do too. I think you know, when you read

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Speaker 3: different people's perspectives through the years, they say even prophecy

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Speaker 3: is not set in stone. That sometimes people, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's like it was that the little town I can't

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Speaker 3: think where. He said, Well, if I can find ten

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Speaker 3: good men or five good men, and I think you

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Speaker 3: just felled one you know that has space, will you

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Speaker 3: not destroy it? And so I think that is really

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Speaker 3: in God's hands and that it may not be set

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Speaker 3: in stone. I know men's hearts on this earth seems infathomable,

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Speaker 3: full of hate sometimes, but general God you can take

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Speaker 3: care of that too. It is in his hands, and

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Speaker 3: I think that's who we should just put our eyes

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Speaker 3: on and pray for the best.

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