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Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Calllia Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, how are you here on a hupday Wednesday

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Speaker 2: get away day for us? Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live is the show. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: I'm waving hello before I wave goodbye.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, r MSGI viewers are seeing Steve wave enthusiastically because

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Speaker 2: in case you did not know here on this bye week,

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Speaker 2: we will not be on the air tomorrow, Thursday, or

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Speaker 2: on Friday. We will rejoin you on Monday of week fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Will be on at noon the regular time that.

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Speaker 2: Noon, as far as I know, we always do on Monday,

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Speaker 2: three hours.

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Speaker 3: On Monday, and yak, the.

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Speaker 2: Bills will be preparing at that point in time for

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Speaker 2: a team by the name of the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the Chief, Steve, we know their defense is

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Speaker 2: pretty darn good this year, arguably the strength of their

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Speaker 2: team third in points allowed, top ten in a lot

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Speaker 2: of other categories. They are really the strength of that

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Speaker 2: football team. Now it is no longer their offense, although

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Speaker 2: as we know, Patrick Mahomes is pretty damn good.

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Speaker 3: I'm lid on them.

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Speaker 2: And then there's this Chiefs news today. Returning to practice

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Speaker 2: off of injured reserve. As the twenty one day practice

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Speaker 2: window begins, Linebacker Nick Bolton, who's a pretty darn good player.

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Speaker 2: Head coach Andy Reid said, we'll bring him along slowly

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Speaker 2: and see how he does. That would not be great

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Speaker 2: timing that he comes back in time for the Bills game.

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Speaker 3: Well, their defense is good. Their defense is playing statistically

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Speaker 3: better than their offense, but let's face it, their offense

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Speaker 3: with Mahomes is still just oh, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not all claiming, probably accounting there.

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Speaker 3: They've got half the losses of the Bills do this year.

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Speaker 3: They're not eight and three, nine and three somewhere in there,

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Speaker 3: and you know, there's just nothing's different. They're eight and three.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing's different. They have not scored points at the

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Speaker 3: clip we've seen them in games past, But their defense

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Speaker 3: is winning games for him.

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Speaker 2: Fourth in total yards allowed, fourth against the pass, twenty

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Speaker 2: third in first downs allowed, thirteenth and third down defense,

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Speaker 2: so not great there, but third in points allowed. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: their offense is eighth overall, seventeenth in rushing, seventh in passing,

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Speaker 2: fourth and third down conversions, and eleventh in total points.

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Speaker 2: So their offense does not measure up to Buffalo statistically,

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Speaker 2: but their defense is better in some areas than Buffalo's

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Speaker 2: defense for sure. So it'll be interesting matchup in a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. And the Chiefs, I want to check

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Speaker 2: really quick. I believe they have a division game this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chiefs. Oh, I just had it here. The

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Speaker 3: Chiefs have got a green Bay this week. Oh it's

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Speaker 3: not there at green Bay eight twenty December third, So

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Speaker 3: that's a Sunday night game.

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Speaker 2: Sunday night game, all right, so we'll be able to

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Speaker 2: watch that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we will catch them, and they'll have a what

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Speaker 3: seven and a half eight hour short week?

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Speaker 2: Count do anything we can, yeah, catchless.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're going up to and they're in green Bay.

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Speaker 3: They're on the road this week.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, green Bay five and six.

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Speaker 2: They'll get a fight from green Bay. I guess it's

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Speaker 3: Yes, they'll get a fight from green Bay. Green Bay

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Speaker 2: But ladies and germs, that is not the biggest NFL

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Speaker 2: news today. As we go around the NFL, presented by

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Speaker 2: Kaleida Health, the official healthcare network of the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 2: and the New York Jets. Steve have opened up the

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Speaker 2: twenty one day practice window for quarterback Aaron Rodgers, designated

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Speaker 2: to return from ir Robert Sala, the head coach, said

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Speaker 2: it's the next step in his rehabilitation. The window could

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Speaker 2: just as easily close without him returning to play. He

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Speaker 2: He will be performing non contact practice, but he will

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Steve.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this, and I'm not the only

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Speaker 2: even his own family doesn't talk to him. He needs

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Speaker 2: He feeds off it. He needs to be talked about.

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Speaker 2: So here we are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's this smacks of an attention grab a headline

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Speaker 3: York Jets. No way. He's forty. He's forty with a

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Speaker 2: Reason for it to happen. Because by this week they

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Speaker 2: Why are we gonna play him in a lost season?

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous to think there is any

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Speaker 3: no way. Absolutely, I will be absolutely shocked if he

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Speaker 3: so I wonder what reason there would be to open

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I don't know that the Jets. Maybe they would.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the Jets are dysfunctional enough to say, yeah, you

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Speaker 3: a little screen time. Okay, We'll open your twenty one

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Speaker 3: It'll divert the people's attention from how credit our season is.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Jets reporters love it. Sure something else to

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Speaker 3: Can are the Jets dysfunctional enough to do that for

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Speaker 2: What else?

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Speaker 3: What other reason could there be? That's the real question.

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Speaker 3: What alternative answer could there be? If and I'm not

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Speaker 3: If he's anything like any of those, it's off the

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Speaker 3: table him being ready to play. So why else? What

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Speaker 2: Can you conjure up scenarios? Here's the best see besides

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Speaker 2: it's I'm serious. I think Robert Salah and Joe Douglas

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Speaker 2: think this is a clever way to remind the owner. Hey,

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Speaker 2: don't forget all the hoops we jump through for this guy,

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Speaker 2: our quarterback who should be back next year and is

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Speaker 2: under contract next year. Our plans were just delayed due

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Speaker 2: it just got sidetracked. But the guy's still around heriot.

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Speaker 2: Look at him, he's already throwing Think about next year

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Speaker 2: and all the wondrous things he's going to do for us.

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Speaker 2: Don't get rid of us now. We were all prepared

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Speaker 2: for a season with Aaron Rodgers. It's not our fault

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Speaker 3: Look how good our defense is not our fault. We're

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Speaker 2: We got the guy you wanted.

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Speaker 3: He just got hurt and now we're and now remember

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Speaker 3: Right, that could be he got benched, that could be

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Speaker 3: mitigated going forward. Do you get Okay, we tried that,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, fine, that's the only thing I can get.

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Speaker 3: absolutely no way, right, So there's no, Brownie, there's no

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Speaker 3: this is good publicity.

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Speaker 2: It'd be a way to sell season tickets for next year.

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Speaker 3: It takes months on end.

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Speaker 2: And he walked in enough to tell me.

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Speaker 3: He walked into the locker room last week doing the

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Speaker 3: And he still had a little hitch in his gidea.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to walk in. He was doing his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't happening.

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Speaker 3: It is not happening. Uh.

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Speaker 2: That is not the most curious of roster decisions Steve

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Speaker 2: around the NFL.

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Speaker 3: There's more, Oh, there is.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots we know have made some very dubious roster

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw how the Patriots Giants

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Speaker 2: game ended last week, but it ended with a missed

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Speaker 2: They lose ten to seven as Belichick loses to one

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Speaker 2: of his disciples, Brian Daboll, ten to seven. The Patriots

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Speaker 2: defense has given up ten points or less in each

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Speaker 2: in those two games. So the Patriots Steve are holding

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Speaker 2: kicker tryouts this week after their rookie kicker Chad Ryland,

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Speaker 2: missed that game tying field goal last week. Care to

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Speaker 2: guess what level of draft choice the Patriots utilized to

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Speaker 3: He had, Yeah, that's got to be a contributing factor.

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Speaker 3: He's twelve of eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Not great, twelve of eighteen, and when your offense is

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Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see if they got all these

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Speaker 4: Move.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, but you know, if it continue to get

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Speaker 3: you do have to make a move. But you're right, Brent,

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Speaker 2: Well, you just let him ride it out. See if

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Speaker 3: At the current moment, New England is sixteenth in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: The kid didn't kick in cold weather. He's the all

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Speaker 3: I don't mean to. Yeah, I believe you. I just

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Speaker 2: Like, ride it out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and and hope he gets you. They they're in.

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Speaker 3: They're within shouting distance of the one overall.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it's going to be a quarterback, so

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Speaker 3: Do you think Mac Jones is out of the league

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Speaker 2: I think there's a chance. I think there's a chance to.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of quarterbacks, Steve the Minnesota Vikings head coach Kevin

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Speaker 3: They're going to start the quarterback that gives him the

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Speaker 2: That is correct. That that's how it was phrased.

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Speaker 3: What if that quarterback doesn't play for them, they don't

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Speaker 3: have it. I don't think Josh ain't there, Mahomes ain't there,

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's not he's injured. They can't even call on him.

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Speaker 3: That guy isn't on that team. Or I'm making fun.

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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell was a quarterback. Maybe he'll loosen up and

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Speaker 3: He may be the guy he he. I wouldn't put

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Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs, Heavin O'Connell the head coach.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 2: He was a fourth string quarterback with the Jets, didn't

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Speaker 3: Josh Dobb's been traded twice this season. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: He got crucified over those four picks the other night.

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Speaker 3: What I mean? Yes, and we're nothing if not fair. Brownie,

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Speaker 2: Well, we knew they were going to come back to

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Speaker 3: And those one score games have had nothing to do

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Speaker 2: To luck, absolutely average, absolutely bills for seven and three

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Speaker 3: So what's that addict to what's that up to add

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Speaker 3: Now we're back to even round, right, And.

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Speaker 2: So far in McDermott's tenure in one score games, they're

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Speaker 3: There you go. That's so that's where you're at.

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Speaker 2: I would like I think there are some teams that

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine there's more than two or three. But

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Speaker 2: I would like to think a team like San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: Here before we turn two questions from you, Steve. With

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Speaker 3: You're so bad now he does kind of look like that.

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Speaker 2: He looks like chick Hicks, same teeth, like everything. Cut Chiga,

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Speaker 6: Hello, guys, thanks so much for taking off call. Happy Wednesday.

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Speaker 6: I know you guys are about to go on your

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Speaker 6: We have a lot of minority quarter at black quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: they still cannick downs him because they still looking him

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Speaker 6: as a European quarterback instead of a top quarterback in

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Speaker 6: the NFL. And I feel it's other fair, but Josh

441
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Speaker 6: knows this, and this is why I kind of get

442
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 6: upset of this case here, like the Philadelphia game with

443
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Speaker 6: my coaching staff kind of let him down because bad enough,

444
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Speaker 6: this guy is facing the mirror when he's brushing his

445
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Speaker 6: teeth when he come to go to work and he

446
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 6: pull up their one bills drives and he come and

447
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 6: he says the loos to the security guy and he

448
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 6: got to go out there and to perform, and then

449
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Speaker 6: he performs. He's baling that carrying that torch of the

450
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Speaker 6: Tom Brady's of the Peyton Manning and he's represented I mean,

451
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Speaker 6: he's representing that position very well along with his family.

452
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Speaker 6: But now at the same time, we have to understand

453
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Speaker 6: as fans, when you see the first tape of why,

454
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Speaker 6: you be like, why this guy played well, Why you're

455
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 6: not getting any just due? This is why. And I

456
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Speaker 6: hate to say that, but I won't say it because

457
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Speaker 6: you know how I talk, You know how I speak.

458
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be real about everything I say. This is

459
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Speaker 6: why the media and the nationalism is baling Josh Allen

460
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Speaker 6: because they can't. They still want to put a lot

461
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Speaker 6: of these on the quarterbacks over the Patrick Mahomes, the

462
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Speaker 6: guy from the Baltimore Ravens, even even Magan through the

463
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Speaker 6: different brothers quarterback over over the guys from crying all out.

464
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Speaker 6: But at the same time, this is the battles one

465
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Speaker 6: Bill's drive, the coaching staff DMan favorite man. When you

466
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 6: see this guy out here balling out, man, please help

467
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 6: this guy. Man, don't put him in a position because

468
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, he's got to go

469
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Speaker 6: back and look at that man say I gave it

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Speaker 6: all I can. But at the same time, I'm not

471
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Speaker 6: I'll get the respect that I've just dow. And I

472
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Speaker 6: love you guys, man, but thanks so much for taking

473
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Speaker 6: my call. You guys are enjoy your mini minie vak.

474
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Speaker 6: But I had to tell the truth about this situation,

475
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Speaker 6: whether it's ugly or not, whether people want to be

476
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Speaker 6: believed or not, it's the true. Thanks your quarterback out.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Butcher. Yeah, I don't know if I buy all

478
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Speaker 3: of that. Quite frankly, the players in the league respect

479
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Speaker 3: Josh a lot. There's other quarterbacks that get that are polarizing.

480
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: Josh was polarizing from the beginning, the very beginning of

481
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Speaker 3: his career. I don't think it had to do with

482
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Speaker 3: him being I guess what Butcher called was a European guy.

483
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Speaker 3: I think it had to do with the numbers that

484
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Speaker 3: he brought with him from college. He's proven since twenty

485
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Speaker 3: nineteen after he kind of struggled through a rookie and

486
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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen when the team went to the playoffs with him.

487
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Speaker 3: I just I think he's done nothing but garner respect

488
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Speaker 3: he's and I said it, and I know I'm a

489
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Speaker 3: Bills guy, but I said it yesterday and I've been

490
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: saying it all this week. No player in the NFL

491
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Speaker 3: is playing their position any better than Josh Allen's playing

492
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Speaker 3: his quarterback, safety, corner, you name it. Josh is playing

493
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Speaker 3: at the most elite level right now. And the fact

494
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Speaker 3: that he's not going to win the MVP because the

495
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: team six and six, that's not on him. That's just

496
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Speaker 3: the way that the system works, and the voters work

497
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: and the public opinion works. You got to be on

498
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Speaker 3: a winner, and that's the way it is. So I

499
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: don't know that there's some sort of maybe Butch has

500
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Speaker 3: some insight that I don't. I don't think any of

501
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 3: those national guys give it the kind of thought that

502
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: you're giving it about you know, Europeans versus you know,

503
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Speaker 3: guys like Josh versus all the black quarterbacks that are

504
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Speaker 3: playing so well, and how it used to be and

505
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Speaker 3: how it is now and how things are changing. And

506
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Speaker 3: I'll just say this, whatever their take is, it's I

507
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Speaker 3: hate to say it because we're in this kind of

508
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: end of the business. All the stuff that the media

509
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 3: says and talks about it, it's it is irrelevant in

510
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: between the lines. It is a meritocracy in the NFL.

511
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Speaker 3: Sometimes you can say, Okay, this draft pick got to

512
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: play ahead of this other guy because he was a

513
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Speaker 3: high draft pick, even though the other guy's probably as good,

514
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Speaker 3: maybe even better. Some stuff like that happens, But you

515
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 3: get what you earn in the league. And right now,

516
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: the Bills are a six and six football team, and

517
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Speaker 3: you're gonna take a lot of darts when you're six

518
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Speaker 3: and six, when everybody thought you were going to be

519
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: nine and three or ten and two or even eight

520
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: and four. You know, that's what you're gonna get, Darts

521
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: like that thrown at you everybody. And it starts with

522
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Speaker 3: the quarterback, starts with the head coach. We've been here

523
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: sitting Brianni, and I've been sitting here catching strays all week. Yeah.

524
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: So that's just the way it is and just be

525
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: And the fact that the team's record is what it

526
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Speaker 3: is at this point of the season is more probably

527
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Speaker 3: about that the stuff they're saying about Josh than any

528
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Speaker 3: of the stats or any of the real or perceived,

529
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Speaker 3: you know, thoughts about how good he is. So that's

530
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Speaker 3: where I'm at. I get I think I get what

531
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Speaker 3: Butcher's trying to say. I just don't know that I

532
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Speaker 3: I buy all into that.

533
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Speaker 2: Fair enough, we're gonna take a break here, but Jay

534
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Speaker 2: in Rochester, stay where you are. You're gonna lead us

535
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Speaker 2: off in the next segment is we're taking your phone

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Speaker 2: calls at eight oh three oh five fifty one eight

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Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty as the OBL

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Speaker 2: Friday fan mailbag is open two days early, since Steve

539
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: and I are on the buy effective tomorrow, So fire

540
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Speaker 2: off your questions on the Bills, the league at large,

541
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Speaker 2: anything on your mind. Next here on one Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned, Take it man. Yes, is the presenting sponsor

543
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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills twenty twenty three season Ticketmaster, the

544
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Speaker 2: official ticket marketplace of the NFL. It's always good to

545
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: be prepared, Steve. You know, I suppose we're going to

546
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Speaker 2: go back to the phones at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 2: fifty as the OBL Friday fan mailbag is open two

549
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Speaker 2: days early since Steve and I will not be here

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Speaker 2: for this program on Thursday or Friday. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: on Monday at noon as we take a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a buye ourselves. But let's get to the phones,

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Speaker 2: and as promised to Jay in Rochester, leading us off,

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Speaker 2: what you got, Jay?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how you doing? Can you guys hear me?

556
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Speaker 3: Yes?

557
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Speaker 8: Yep, Hi, Thank you so much taking my call, big

558
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Speaker 8: fan of the show. A couple quick questions here. I know,

559
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Speaker 8: with the Bills record and where they stand now and

560
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Speaker 8: the remaining opponents on their schedule, my question is, if

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Speaker 8: they win out the rest of their AFC games, and

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Speaker 8: let's just say they lose to Dallas, but they win

563
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Speaker 8: the rest of their AFC games, including the opponents in

564
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Speaker 8: their division, what are the chances of them making the playoffs?

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Speaker 8: And will they need really not aware this? Will they

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Speaker 8: need more help or less help if they win If

567
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Speaker 8: they went out their AFC games but they dropped the

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Speaker 8: one to Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So essentially, Jay, if they went out, you got

570
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Speaker 2: a ninety seven percent chance to make the playoffs, they're

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Speaker 2: probably in. If they lose one of those games and

572
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Speaker 2: you want to make it the Dallas game because it's

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Speaker 2: not an AFC game, that's fine. They'll down to about

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Speaker 2: fifty seven percent chance of making the playoffs, right, and

575
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Speaker 2: that will unquestionably be with.

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Speaker 3: Help they'll need, they'll be if they do that, they'll

577
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Speaker 3: be seven and five in the conference then too, so

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Speaker 3: they'll get back about.

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Speaker 2: That's the best they can do.

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Speaker 3: That's they'll be back if in that scenario, they'll be

581
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Speaker 3: back above five hundred in the conference, which will serve

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Speaker 3: them well going down the stretch. But and that means

583
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Speaker 3: also that Miami will be well. I don't know how

584
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: many AFC teams Miami has left, but.

585
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Speaker 2: At Baltimore they have Buffalo. That's two right there.

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Speaker 3: Right, Dallas is on that and also they have the

587
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Speaker 3: Commanders and yeah, so yeah, there's too many variables there

588
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: to even make a definitive answer to you. But yes,

589
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: if they win four lose one, they're going to need help.

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Speaker 3: If they win five, they're going to be in.

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Speaker 2: They have four conference games as well. The Dolphins, because

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Speaker 2: I still maintain that winning the division is your best

593
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Speaker 2: route to the playoffs, because you're three games back in

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Speaker 2: the lost column to Miami, but you have the head

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Speaker 2: to head edge right now. And here's the issue. The

596
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Speaker 2: Dolphins have a three and one division record. Your division

597
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: records two and two, so you obviously have to beat

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Speaker 2: them in Week eighteen. That drops them to two division losses.

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Speaker 2: And if you've run the table, you're four and two

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Speaker 2: like they are. And more importantly, you've swept the season series,

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Speaker 2: so you win on head to head. Division record doesn't

602
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: even come into play, and you need that conference record. Well,

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Speaker 2: conference record doesn't come into play to determined tiebreakers within

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Speaker 2: a division, right right, Well it does, but just not

605
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: before head to head or division record, and you need

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Speaker 2: that because you're not going to beat them in any

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Speaker 2: other scenario, not that it's going to be Buffalo and

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Speaker 2: Miami in a wild card square off. One of those

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Speaker 2: two teams is winning this division. I think that's pretty evident.

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Speaker 2: So you gotta run the table. That means you beat

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins, and that by virtue of that, you're likely

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Speaker 2: winning the division, unless you know, the Dolphins win every

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Speaker 2: game but the game against the Bills, and then you

614
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Speaker 2: got bigger fish to fry, because now you're in a

615
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Speaker 2: pool with a bunch of teams in the AFC Conference

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Speaker 2: who at least right now have better conference records than you, which,

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Speaker 2: after head to head, is the first tiebreaker. Bills are

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Speaker 2: three and five. Of all the teams currently in playoff position,

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Speaker 2: no one is under five hundred in conference record. The

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Speaker 2: worst is Indianapolis at four and three, Cleveland five and three,

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh five and three, Miami six and two, Jacksonville six

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Speaker 2: and two. All those teams have stellar conference records. Even

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Speaker 2: Houston is three and three. Now, they still have six

624
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Speaker 2: conference games left. The Bills have four, so they have

625
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: a lot more room to improve that mark. The best

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Speaker 2: the Bills can do is seven and five in the conference,

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Speaker 2: and that's if they win their four remaining conference or yeah,

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Speaker 2: four remaining conference games, So you're limited. You've made your

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Speaker 2: bed now you gotta lie in it. And if you

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Speaker 2: don't win the division and you finished ten and seven,

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Speaker 2: you're need an awful lot of help from the people

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Speaker 2: in the picture our MSG viewers are looking at right

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Speaker 2: now to get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that picture will obviously not only become clearer

635
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: for the Bills as the season rolls on, it'll also

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00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: become clear for all those other teams and what they've

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00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: got to do and which which teams are vulnerable. Cincinnati's

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00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: got to be considered extremely vulnerable, although they are already

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Speaker 3: behind Buffalo. Denver is the one Denver you've played and

640
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: you've lost that head to head, so Denver them. Denver

641
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: is always going to be ahead of you. Houston at

642
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: six and five is going to be there. But they

643
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: they're in the division with Jacksonville, Tennessee and Indianapolis, so

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00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: you got to think they're they're thinking they're going to do.

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Speaker 3: They've got the Broncos left, the Jets left, the Titans, Browns,

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Speaker 3: the Titans again, and the Colts. That's the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: So they've got some games that you got to think, well,

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00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: from a big picture standpoint, you got to think those

649
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 3: are winnable. Against the Jets and against the Colts maybe,

650
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: but it's the Houston Texans. And you know the rookie quarterback,

651
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: he's starting to play well. They're starting to get it

652
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Speaker 3: together Demiko Ran. So yeah, they've got some stuff going on.

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Speaker 3: So you're chasing those guys. And they don't have the

654
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: Bill's schedule coming down the stretch, nobody does well.

655
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: Houston's playing the last play schedule.

656
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: That's why that's well yeah, yeah, And I'll say this though,

657
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 3: the Broncos are going to give them problems. And right now,

658
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 3: you don't care if the Broncos play well.

659
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 2: Well, that's why if you win the division, you don't

660
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: have to worry about all these teams that you don't

661
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: have tie breakers on, right you win the division you're in.

662
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: That's why it's still the best way for the Bills

663
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: to get to the postseason. But you need Miami to

664
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: slip up here down the stretch. You can't just rely

665
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 2: on Week eighteen. They need to lose a couple.

666
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they may get to week eighteen, and you may see,

667
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: you know, Mike McDaniel lined up at quarterback because they

668
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: don't want anybody to play. I mean, their head coach

669
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: may say, let me, you know what I'm gonna tell

670
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: I don't. They may not need that game.

671
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: They may not.

672
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: They may not, just like the Bills didn't in twenty

673
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: twenty twenty and end up thumping them forty six or fifty.

674
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: One, six fifty six. Barkley played the second half at quarterback.

675
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 3: Barkley beat them too, by the way.

676
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's go back to the phones and to Pa.

677
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 2: What's up, Pops?

678
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: I fell out? How you're doing?

679
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: Okay?

680
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: Still going? Still can't get over the disappointment of Sunday's game.

681
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 4: But I caught something early on. Everyone keeps talking about

682
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 4: the pass to gave Davis that never that didn't connect.

683
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: But shortly after the second half started use of basketball analogy.

684
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 4: The Bills took the air out of the ball five

685
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 4: straight rushes, and with a good team, they should have

686
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 4: kept on and on. You can't can't ever let up.

687
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 4: They should have kept the foot on the gas and

688
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 4: piled on the point.

689
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 3: Hold on a minute, hold on a minute. Tho, Pops,

690
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: they ran the ball five times in a ro own

691
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: and they were getting first downs doing it. I mean

692
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: they were moving the football.

693
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: But still was too early. As immediately as that happened,

694
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 4: I oh, here we go.

695
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, with all due respect, Pops, I'm gonna read you

696
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: the first series. Coming out of the half, Josh Allen

697
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 2: passed down the right left right sideline to Gave Davis

698
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: for twenty three yards. James Cook run for no gain,

699
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: pass to Shakiir for six, pass to Shakir for ten,

700
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: pass in complete to Murray, pass in complete to Davis,

701
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: pass in complete to Davis forty eight yard field goal.

702
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: Where are the runs you're talking about? It might have

703
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: been the next second series. All right, I'll go to

704
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: the next series.

705
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 4: Let me say we're up by ten, right, We're up

706
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 4: by ten and completely.

707
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: Well at seventeen fourteen because after the field goal by Bass,

708
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 2: Heurtz comes back and leads a touchdown drive. So here's

709
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: the next drive. Third quarter, Cook for four, Cook for two,

710
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: Allan up the middle for seven conversion. Alan passed to

711
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: Cook for twenty nine yards, Cook for a run for four.

712
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: Ty Johnson runs for nine first down. Ty Johnson up

713
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: the middle for four. Ty loses five yards on the

714
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: next carry, third and eleven, Allen's sixteen yards, scramble for

715
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 2: a touchdown. I mean it's a touchdown drive. What's the problem.

716
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's taking your foot off the

717
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: gas respectfully, And.

718
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I get it. I'll say this too. I

719
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: was thinking about this today. I did it, And thanks

720
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: Pops for calling. I appreciate it, and I get it.

721
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: That's the big narrative that I've heard, more so than

722
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: anything about this. All of a sudden, you start taking,

723
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: like he says, take the air out of the ball,

724
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 3: and he start going conservative. And I'm using finger quotes

725
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: that McDermott starts coaching not to lose, and all that.

726
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: You go over the that liistic plays right there, it

727
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: just doesn't hold water.

728
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: They can't afford to lose. They're playing to win every

729
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: game right now, right there's no margin forever. Taking their

730
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: foot off the gas. It's not happening.

731
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: But the thing about it is this team never gets

732
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 3: beat by more than a score ever. I mean, we've

733
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 3: gone over it and over for years now. They've had

734
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: like one game in the last three years where they've

735
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: lost by double digits in the regular season.

736
00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 5: That is.

737
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: So that's the kind of games you're always in. And

738
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 3: every time we get into a game like that, which

739
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: is every single game, it seems like these days it

740
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: comes down to a play at the end and everybody

741
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 3: picks out whatever play it is, and you're right there. Game.

742
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 3: They're game changers, like the the twelve men on the field,

743
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: you lose the game, I get it like any other

744
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: You know that you want to talk the mispass to

745
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: Gabe Davis for the touchdown that would have ended the game.

746
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: So the problem is that's the way it's always gonna be.

747
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: When you play so many single score games, you're gonna

748
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: have one play here, and that's the thing, and everybody's

749
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: that's gonna be the narrative. It's gonna be a miscommunication

750
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: from Josh and Gabbon, oh my god said, and they're

751
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna chew on that and chew on it

752
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 3: and chew on it. You're gonna chew on the special

753
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: teams because they had twelve guys on the field. You're

754
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: gonna chew on it and chew on it and chew

755
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: on it. And you're gonna look for all these answers,

756
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: this one single answer or for all of those plays,

757
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 3: and it's just not there. It is just not there.

758
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: That's it. There is no ghost or overriding the coaches.

759
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: Isn't good enough, He's not. Let me tell you something,

760
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: how good this coach is. There's thirty two other teams

761
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: in the league that would think real hard about getting

762
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: him if he if he was available. He is not

763
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: just a good coach. He is a great football coach.

764
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: And I'm not I'm no, I'm no, you know, I'm

765
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: not a I'm not trying to pump his tires or anything.

766
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: They never get beat by more than a score, and

767
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: they're in every game. They got this guy playing quarterback

768
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: that nobody else but a lot of people thought was

769
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: gonna be a bust, and he has nurtured this guy

770
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: into an elite quarterback. He's got a defense that's been

771
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: riddled by injuries. They're playing lights out and you. I mean,

772
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 3: they've got some limitations with personnel, no question about it,

773
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: because of the injuries, because of whatever, age, because of

774
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: just not guys just not turning out be good enough.

775
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: And they have coached around every obstacle coming down the

776
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 3: line and gotten all these games down to where one

777
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: play is all you can focus on to think, oh man,

778
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: this team is just not good enough. I'm telling you

779
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: they are.

780
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: There are two teams in football over the last three

781
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: years that have had double digit wins each of the

782
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: last three years, Chiefs and the Bills.

783
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: That's it.

784
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 2: The last three years.

785
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this team is. They are on it,

786
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 3: and they've They've run into some stuff this year, no question.

787
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: They've dropped some games that you think. There isn't a

788
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: game over the last year in the regular season the

789
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: last two or three years. Every single loss except for

790
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: like maybe what the Indianapolis game three years ago, every

791
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: single game comes down to that and their team that

792
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: they can't even imagine being that good.

793
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: And the last thing I'll throw in here, and Pops,

794
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to jump on you with your opinion.

795
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: You're entitled to it, but running the football was very effective.

796
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: How effective that's the most rushing yards. The number one

797
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: ranked run defense of Philadelphia gave up all season one

798
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy three to Buffalo, most yards given up

799
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: all season. We have to take a break, but we're

800
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: right back to your phone calls. Jerry and Tonawanda is

801
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: going to lead us off when we get back here

802
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned all right, Welcome back

803
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,680
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806
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807
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: to the phones on an obl fan Friday on Wednesday

808
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: and to Jerry and Tonawanda. What's up Jerry, Hey, guys.

809
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 7: I listened to you every day and you're doing a

810
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 7: great job. I'd like to say that I think Shakier

811
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 7: needs to sit down. He had two plays, one in

812
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 7: the first quarter and I think one of the second

813
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 7: third and short. Josh threw to them on the sideline.

814
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 7: He ran the wrong route. He's been there forever this year.

815
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 7: He should know the routes. He ran their right, wrong route.

816
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 7: He's got to sit down, and we need to on

817
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 7: third and short. We need to use Shakir digs In Kincaid,

818
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 7: whether in pick plays, across running crossers, crossing patterns, or whatever.

819
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 7: But those are three receivers that we have to go

820
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 7: to on third and short for sure, because they're the

821
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 7: surehanded receivers.

822
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: All right, Hold on a second, Jerry, because at the

823
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: start you said Shakier needs to sit and then you

824
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: said Shakier needs to be one of the three targeted

825
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,959
Speaker 2: on third down? Did you mean somebody else?

826
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 7: I meant your surefield. I'm sorry, Okay, yeah, sure, Sairfield

827
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 7: ran the two routes on third and short, and Josh

828
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 7: threw to him and he was in the wrong place.

829
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: Sirfield, not Sherfield. He means he's talking about that receiver

830
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: screen where he wasn't even looking. He was blocking instead.

831
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: I don't know who was in the wrong there. There

832
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: were two receivers there. I will tell you that. The

833
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: good news, Jerry, is that as of right now, Diggs

834
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: and Kinkad have the most receptions on third down for

835
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: the Bills this season. The guy in third is Latavious Murray,

836
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: and that's usually because he's a checkdown option. There aren't

837
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: design routes to him per se, and I don't have

838
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 2: Let me see if I can pull the numbers up. Actually,

839
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: i've got him here. Let me see third down this

840
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 2: season for the Bills, and the reception totals are as

841
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: I said. Diggs is first, kin Kaid is second, Murray

842
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: is third, Gabe Davis's fourth, Khalil Shakir is fifth. Trent

843
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: Sherfield has one reception on third down. So I think

844
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 2: they're already kind of going to the right people already.

845
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: So I think your concerns, hopefully are alleviated. Knowing that

846
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: that is a fact after twelve games played, Let's go

847
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: to let me see who's been waiting longer. We go

848
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: to Patrick in Buffalo next. What's up Patrick?

849
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 9: Hello, guys, entertaining show. He's always listen, guys, I'm an optimist,

850
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 9: an eternal optimist, and I keep coming back to this question.

851
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 9: Right now, they got to buy week. They're playing Kansas City.

852
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 9: Allen has got to outplay Mahomes. Now. Maybe he can,

853
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 9: maybe can't, But if he calls the plays, that's the

854
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 9: whole I know you, guys, it's been a couple of weeks.

855
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 9: There's six and six. Now with everybody else calling the plays,

856
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 9: they're six and six. If this man can do what

857
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 9: he did Sunday and he calls his own plays, super

858
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 9: Bowl Baby. And you guys, it's up to you to

859
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 9: you know, you know more about this than I would.

860
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 9: I'm a football watcher, but I'm telling you this guy

861
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 9: can get it done. And that's the only way they

862
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 9: can get it done. Sake sure your time, bye bye.

863
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Patrick, I mean Steve can speak to

864
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 2: this also. He Josh already has a lot of decision

865
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: making on his plate. Obviously, we all know he's got

866
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 2: to set the protections with Mitch Morse. He's got to check,

867
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: make checks at the line if necessary. Very often he

868
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: has two options on the play to call RPO. This

869
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: is a very RPO centric offense, so he has to

870
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: make decisions every play as to whether they're going with

871
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: the run or they're going with the pass. So in

872
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: a lot of ways, he already is kind of making

873
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: the decision as to what play is going to be executed.

874
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's a force multiplier per se.

875
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: If you give him the keys to the car and

876
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: say call the offense too, yeah, I don't know if

877
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: there's a force make here's the.

878
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 3: Problem with somebody else calling the play and the way

879
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 3: they run the play calling systems and the playbook and

880
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: all all the stuff that goes into it. There's a

881
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: million things that are all important. When you start having

882
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: the guy call his own plays, it becomes difficult for

883
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: him to have the entire playbook at the top of

884
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: his mind in every given moment. Those those playlists that

885
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: you see all these coaches have, and the you know,

886
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 3: the ones that are like huge, they're there for a reason.

887
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 3: All that stuff's available, and you can imagine standing out

888
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: there with nothing, you know, but maybe a wristband or whatever,

889
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 3: to have the right play, the right's motion, the right

890
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 3: stuff at your fingertips. It's just not the way the game.

891
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: It's not the best way to play the game in

892
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 3: this day and age because what happens every play you run,

893
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: particularly with motions, and we've seen a ton of that

894
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: with Joe Brady. It tells you something about the defense.

895
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: You don't have any time to think about. You don't

896
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: know what that is and what that means when you're

897
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 3: out there playing. But up at the top, you got

898
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: a whole crew of guys going, hey, listen, when we

899
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: ran this shift against this look with this personnel and

900
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: this down a distance, they made this check. So next

901
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: time we get into this down in distance, let's get

902
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 3: in this look and run this wrinkle on that play

903
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 3: and then it's gonna pop wide open. You can't play.

904
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,959
Speaker 3: I mean, Josh the smart guy, but that's a lot

905
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: to ask of a guy on the fly in the

906
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 3: in the middle of a game, and to come back

907
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: to that after about four plays have have gone by

908
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 3: and you're now you're like, okay, now here's that spot.

909
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 3: Let's use that play that kind of thing. So that's

910
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: what you're talking about MC.

911
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 2: Dealing with too much other stuff.

912
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: You're talking about when quarterbacks call their own plays, you're

913
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 3: gonna get at most a half a dozen different plays,

914
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: not not forty, not six dozen plays. Right, You're looking

915
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: at six plays, not six dozen plays. And that's what

916
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: you're looking at in the game. So, you know, I

917
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 3: get it. We romanticize that having a quarterback drawed up

918
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: in the dirt or just look at the guys say hey,

919
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: give me this or I'm like I'm coming to you

920
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 3: no matter what, get open. You know, it just doesn't

921
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: work like that. It doesn't work like that because the

922
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: other side gets paid two and they got answers.

923
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we return, Our number

924
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Speaker 2: two begins with senior producer from NFL Films, Greg co Sell,

925
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: will give us his take on Bill's Eagles and we'll

926
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: spin it forward just a hair see if he has

927
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: any initial thoughts on the Chiefs game, and we'll also

928
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: see if he's got a game of the week for

929
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: Week thirteen while we all sit and watch non Bills football.

930
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Speaker 1: Next this one, Bills Live, presented by Kalia Health.

931
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: All Right, Hour number two here on a Wednesday, is

932
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: going to begin with our abbreviated week ending the way

933
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: regular weeks usually do, and that's with senior producer from

934
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Speaker 2: NFL Films, Greg co Sale joining us, also co host

935
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show, and Greg co Sale's appearance

936
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: is presented by Scott Lonyard, an official commercial site work

937
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: partner of the Buffalo Bills. Well Greg a barn burner

938
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: of a game certainly entertaining if you didn't have a

939
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 2: skin in the game, But Bill's fans are obviously sore

940
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: with how that thing turned out, knowing they were pretty

941
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Speaker 2: close to handing the Eagles the first home loss of

942
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 2: the season.

943
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a great, great football game. I thought

944
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 5: the Bills offense was really, really good. I thought Josh

945
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 5: Allen played a great game. He could argue he may

946
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 5: have been as good an offensive player in the league

947
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 5: this week. You know, defensively, you know, it's look, you

948
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 5: guys know this. I mean there have unfortunately been games

949
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 5: where they've been ahead late and the defense has had

950
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 5: to hold and they didn't. I think if they had held,

951
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 5: and I think there's four games you could probably look at,

952
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 5: they'd be ten and two and we'd be having a

953
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 5: totally different conversation.

954
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's it. You get to these games, and

955
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: this has kind of been why Bills have been so

956
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: frustrating for their fans. You get into all the they

957
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 3: can't get beat they don't never get beat by double digits, right,

958
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: They're always in these things. They're in these things right

959
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 3: down to the end, and it always comes down to

960
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 3: that one last play the other team, or the mistake

961
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: by the Bills, or a call by the official, or

962
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: that it's always some little different thing. Because the games

963
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 3: are always so close, you tend to look for this

964
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: huge problem, like are they getting out coached, are they

965
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: getting out played? Do they have not enough good players?

966
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 3: And really that simple fact of the matter is it's

967
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: a hard league to win in and they're a hard

968
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 3: team to beat.

969
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 5: Now I would agree with that, I mean, you know,

970
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 5: they never I mean rarely ever, you guys would I

971
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 5: can't remember every single game go in fact, the last

972
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 5: number of years. But it's funny, you know, the record

973
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 5: over the last number of years, notwithstanding this year six

974
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 5: and six, has been really really good. And you know,

975
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 5: unfortunately one team wins the Super Bowl and then if

976
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 5: you're really good for two, three, four years, people start

977
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 5: talking about Super Bowl windows they of course start talking

978
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 5: about your quarterback, saying, well, he's not good enough to

979
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 5: win a super Bowl. You know how all these conversations

980
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 5: go Steven and Brownie. But you know, they're a very

981
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 5: competitive team. You know, watching that game, and I watched

982
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 5: a good amount of it live as well. Normally I

983
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 5: don't do that, but it was it was the late game,

984
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 5: so they weren't that many late games on the red zone,

985
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 5: so I ended up watching a lot of this game live,

986
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 5: and boy, it just you know, after the Eagles went

987
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 5: three and out to start the second half. You know,

988
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 5: I was just starting to think, man, this Bills are

989
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 5: gonna win this game. They're they're just controlling this game.

990
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 5: They're dominating this game. It just felt right. And you know,

991
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 5: then the Eagles and then Swift started the next drive

992
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 5: with a thirty six yard run and I'm not saying

993
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 5: that changed my whole worldview, but I just felt like, man,

994
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 5: that that's the kind of play that just you can't

995
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 5: give up that kind of play because they were really

996
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 5: controlling the game.

997
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

998
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 2: I wanted to get your thoughts on this, Greg, because

999
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: in the first half, Jalen Hurts looked as uncomfortable as

1000
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: I have ever seen him. Curiously, the Eagles chose not

1001
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 2: to run the ball in the first half against the

1002
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: defense that was giving up four and a half yards

1003
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 2: carry on average. I was stunned by the first half

1004
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: game plan of the Eagles. What about you?

1005
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 5: Well, here was my thought. I mean, again, I think

1006
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 5: you can say that, and I'm not a big I

1007
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 5: don't really rip coaches for game plans. My guess is,

1008
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 5: here's what they thought. They thought that they had Brown

1009
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 5: and Smith on the outside and they're better than Douglas,

1010
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 5: who was playing boundary corner and Bedford the field corner,

1011
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 5: because that's what the Bills do. As you guys know,

1012
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 5: they play field and boundary. They don't switch, and they

1013
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 5: don't match. And they probably felt, even with Drisco playing

1014
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 5: right tackle, that they could protect well enough to be

1015
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 5: able to really make some explosive big plays in the

1016
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 5: past game Brownie. And you know, obviously when it doesn't work,

1017
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 5: then you say, oh, gee, they should have run the ball.

1018
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 5: But I think They'm sure, let's put this way, I'm

1019
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 5: sure they felt that. I'm sure they felt with their

1020
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 5: receivers and their pass game that they could come out

1021
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 5: and throw the ball and be very effective and maybe

1022
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 5: relative actively speaking, put the game away somewhat early.

1023
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: And what do you think of the Bill's ability to

1024
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 3: run the football in this game? I was a little

1025
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 3: shocked at one hundred and seventy three yards against the

1026
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 3: Philly run defense. I was a little surprised by that.

1027
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think Steve, that was a lot of Josh,

1028
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 5: I mean in terms of Murray and Cook. Other than

1029
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 5: that drive, the final fourth quarter touchdown drive, if I'm

1030
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 5: not mistaken, when they started the drive with three consecutive

1031
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 5: ten plus yard runs, that was the final fourth quarter

1032
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 5: touchdown drive. Correct, Yes, Yeah. Other than that, they didn't

1033
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 5: necessarily run it with the backs really really well. It

1034
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 5: was Josh and some of that was by design obviously,

1035
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 5: and some of that was second reaction outside of structure,

1036
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 5: and he was phenomenal doing that, by the way. So

1037
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 5: I didn't necessarily think they dominated running the football. I

1038
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 5: think it was part of what they did, but I

1039
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 5: don't think it was one of those where, you you know,

1040
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 5: I felt like, man, they're just coming out and they're

1041
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 5: just pounding the Eagles. You know, the game they were

1042
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 5: in ninety two offensive plays. That is an unbelievable amount

1043
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 5: of offensive plays. I mean, if you know the Eagles,

1044
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 5: because of injuries, they had to play Jordan davis sixty

1045
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 5: two snaps, Jalen Carter's seventy six snaps. I mean there

1046
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,959
Speaker 5: were stretchers when those guys were clearly tired. But yeah,

1047
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 5: this was this was a Josh Allen game. This was

1048
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 5: the Josh Allen we sort of know that he's capable

1049
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 5: of any given week. He had four hundred plus yards

1050
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 5: by himself. We're seeing a run here, but he made

1051
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 5: a couple of really big time throws and then there's

1052
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 5: just other plays that you wish you had back. You know,

1053
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 5: the Cook drop, which was you know in the first quarter.

1054
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: I believe first drive.

1055
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 5: I don't think it was. Yeah, I don't think it

1056
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 5: was a designed wheel. I think he turned that up.

1057
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 5: But the point is he dropped what should have been

1058
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 5: a touchdown.

1059
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there were a handful of others as well,

1060
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: There's no question about that. What what were your thoughts

1061
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: about Buffalo's defense. They give up thirty points in the

1062
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: second half. We know that they are hamstrung due to

1063
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: the absences in their lineup. They have to play players

1064
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 2: with limitations, and those players, unfortunately have played enough where

1065
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: they are now being outright targeted by opponents. The film

1066
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: doesn't lie and no, and the defensive coordinator in this case,

1067
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, can only do so much to kind of

1068
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: cover up those deficiencies, it would seem.

1069
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I think eventually that that does get you.

1070
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 5: As you said, I thought, I thought the key drive

1071
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 5: was that first touchdown drive in the third quarter on

1072
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 5: the second possession, because it started with the swift thirty

1073
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 5: six yard or I thought they did a really good job.

1074
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 5: There was an example, Brownie or I thought that the

1075
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 5: play calling and designed by Brian Johnson, the offensive coordinator

1076
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 5: for the Eagles, was really really good. He understood not

1077
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 5: only the players he was playing against, but what the

1078
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 5: Bills were defensively. They're an overfront, meaning they shift their

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Speaker 5: their defensive line to the strong side of the formation.

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Speaker 5: And he did a really good job in the run game,

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00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 5: and plays worked off one another. The final touchdown, which

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00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 5: was the three yard of the Brown, was basically the

1083
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 5: same exact look as two plays earlier when they hit Stole.

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00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 5: They just all those plays worked really well in tandem together,

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00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 5: and I thought that that drive kind of got the

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Speaker 5: Eagles going. Now then when you hit you know, and

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Speaker 5: then I think on the next drive he hit Smith

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00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 5: for thirty three yards Hurtz did which was actually given

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00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 5: how they were playing the Bills, that is on defense,

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00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 5: that was another really good call because it attacked what

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Speaker 5: the Bills were doing. Then you had the Smith fifteen

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00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 5: yard touchdown, a great call. And I don't know what

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00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 5: else to say about Sakia is twenty nine yarder. That's

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Speaker 5: just a great you know, it hurts being a great

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00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 5: player making a great throw and the key is going

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Speaker 5: up and those are the kinds of plays. You know,

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen and the Bills make those plays too, and

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Speaker 5: we rave about them. So when the opponent makes them

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Speaker 5: because they're capable of it, you know, those are the places,

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't really know what to say about

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Speaker 5: because they're just great individual plays.

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Speaker 2: I would say the Smith touchdown was a blown coverage

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01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: because you had the corner and the slot. They both

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01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: jumped the under together in the same area. It appeared

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Speaker 2: to me just watching it live. I haven't gone back

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Speaker 2: and watched it other than because Hide got hung out

1107
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 2: to dry in between. He was in no man's land.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Jalen Hurts could have thrown it to aj

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Speaker 2: Brown on the corner, and he could have thrown it

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Speaker 2: to Smith. They were both wide open.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, here's what happened on that Brown. You know, again,

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Speaker 5: I don't know how Sean McDermott would view it, but

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Speaker 5: I didn't see it as a blown coverage in the

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Speaker 5: in the way you're talking they they were. The Eagles

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01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 5: put swift in motion to the trip's side, making it

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01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 5: four strong, four receivers to one side, and then they

1117
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 5: showed tunnel screen action to Jones with two verticals behind it.

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Speaker 5: By Brown on the outside and Smith from the slot,

1119
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 5: and two guys jumped the tunnel screen action. And what

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Speaker 5: happened is that put Hide in major conflict. Height essentially

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Speaker 5: was a safety. You had to play two verticals, yeah,

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Speaker 5: and he couldn't. You can't play two verticals. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if that was technically a blown coverage as much

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Speaker 5: as the Eagles forced the situation where they put Hide

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Speaker 5: in a buying that you know you can't play two verticals.

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Speaker 2: I gotta believe one of those corners has to take

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01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: the outside quarter of the field, right, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Well, and I think he jumped the tunnel screen act.

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Speaker 5: Did that was the whole point of the tunnel screen

1130
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 5: action is to get so I mean, if you want

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01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 5: to take the old Bill Belichick through your job, then

1132
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 5: you're probably right. But that was the reason the Eagles

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Speaker 5: showed the tunnel screen action.

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Speaker 3: So what do you and this this game comes out

1135
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 3: down to, you know, the end of the game in

1136
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 3: a drive rainstorm. What's your take? And I gotta you

1137
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 3: got even Bills fans, you gotta tip your hat to

1138
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: the Eagles hitting a fifty nine yard or at the

1139
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: end to send that in time. I mean, it's an

1140
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Speaker 3: unbelievable moment.

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01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean again, that's another kind of thing.

1142
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Speaker 5: What do you say about that? I mean, you know,

1143
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 5: first of all, the guy is a great kicker, but

1144
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Speaker 5: it's a fifty nine yarder in the rain, and and

1145
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 5: you know it's people keep asking me, you know what,

1146
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 5: what did the Eagles do that was so grant? You

1147
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 5: know when I'm thinking to myself, well, they've made a

1148
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 5: couple of really good plays that were designed, but then

1149
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 5: Hurts made that played as a key is this? You know,

1150
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 5: Elliott hits a fifty nine yard field goal. I mean,

1151
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Speaker 5: I don't know what you say. Yeah, you know, the

1152
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 5: Bills played, They went on the road against arguably the

1153
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Speaker 5: best team in football. They played a great game. Josh

1154
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 5: Allen was phenomenal. You know, it's you know, maybe it's

1155
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 5: just emblematic and representative of this particular season. Every once

1156
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Speaker 5: in a while, those things happen, and I don't know

1157
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Speaker 5: what you say, Yeah.

1158
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 3: More than once in a while, it seems on a

1159
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 3: year like this for the Bills. But yeah, it's just

1160
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 3: it's just further into this Sean McDermott era of football.

1161
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 3: That and when you lose close games, people want to

1162
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,479
Speaker 3: blame one thing, but you look back at the six

1163
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 3: losses and even the ones where you said, like the

1164
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Speaker 3: Bills had the lead late and couldn't hang on to it. Yea,

1165
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 3: even those games were completely different reasons each and every

1166
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Speaker 3: game for why the game didn't go the Bills a way.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, it's it's one of those years. It's

1168
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 5: been a very odd year, you know. And obviously I'm

1169
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 5: sure everybody's talking about the final play to Davis. You know, again,

1170
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Speaker 5: I don't I don't know the answer to that, because

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Speaker 5: you know, no one's going to tell you the truth.

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Speaker 5: That's just the way it is. You know that, Steve

1173
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 5: and Brownie, no one's going to tell you the real truth.

1174
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 5: You know. The only thing I know is what I've

1175
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 5: been told over the years by coaches. But it doesn't

1176
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 5: mean it was the case here. Is that when it's

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Speaker 5: zero and the middles open, somebody has to go to

1178
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 5: the middle because the middle's open, there's no there's no

1179
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 5: post safety. But I don't know how they do it,

1180
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 5: And you know, so it's you know, I can't sit

1181
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 5: here and i can watch it with my clicker one

1182
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 5: hundred times and I'm still not going to know the answer.

1183
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, I don't want to get into matchups with

1184
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: Bill's Chiefs. We'll save that for next week when we

1185
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: catch up with you, Greg, But just the Chiefs overall

1186
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 2: and what they are now, it's my belief that the

1187
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: defensive unit has taken over as the strength of this

1188
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: football team. Spagnolo has really got that side of the

1189
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Speaker 2: ball humming for them. They're third in the league in

1190
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: points allowed, so even though their offense has sputtered at times,

1191
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: it hasn't really cost them games all that often because

1192
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: their defense has been so outstanding. Where do you see

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01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: it has improved.

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Speaker 5: The most well. First of all, I agree with your

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Speaker 5: general point of thousand percent, Brownie. The defense, for the

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Speaker 5: most part has been what's carried this team. Their offense

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Speaker 5: has been very, very up and down. They're really really

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Speaker 5: good upfront. They have four or five players, Brownie, that

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Speaker 5: can line up all in different positions, so they're very

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Speaker 5: multi dimensional and multi positional upfront. I think their safeties

1201
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 5: have improved. They play a lot of dime. Close to

1202
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 5: thirty percent of their snaps on defense come out of dime,

1203
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 5: and they've got three safeties who are essentially interchangeable. Now

1204
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 5: normally Justin Reid is the tight end matchup, and we'll

1205
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 5: see what happens when they play the Bills next week

1206
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 5: with Kincaid. But they're really interchangeable to a large degree,

1207
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Speaker 5: and they've made a change this year. Snead no longer

1208
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 5: plays in the slot at all. He's the outside corner

1209
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 5: Brownie and McDuffie is their slot corner. And McDuffie's really

1210
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 5: good in the slot because he's very physical, very competitive,

1211
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 5: and he can cover.

1212
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Speaker 3: And it also starts at the other end with Chris Jones.

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Speaker 5: He's the key to teams. What happens is is they

1214
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 5: know that team slide protection to Chris Jones, Steve and

1215
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 5: so they're able to work a lot of pressure concepts

1216
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 5: off of that.

1217
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, any games this week that really catch your eye, Greg,

1219
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: For for Bills fans that will be watching other football

1220
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Speaker 2: this week.

1221
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 5: Oh, well, for Bills fans, I mean, obviously, you know,

1222
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 5: because they're six and six, they're hoping, you know, Denver

1223
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 5: Houston becomes a huge game for Bill's fans. I mean,

1224
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Speaker 5: Denver's won five in a row. They've got the the

1225
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Speaker 5: most consecutive wins of any team in the AFC. Kansas

1226
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Speaker 5: City green Bay is still an interesting game obviously because

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Speaker 5: you know, we just spoke Kansas City, but they're going

1228
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Speaker 5: to Green Bay. I guess Arizona. Pittsburgh too, you know,

1229
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 5: is not a you know, Pittsburgh is a wildcard team

1230
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 5: right now, they're not a divisional leader. So you know,

1231
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 5: those are games that probably Bill's fans will have their

1232
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 5: eye on. But you know, they don't have an easy

1233
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 5: road when they come back from the bye guys, as

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 5: you well know, they're.

1235
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: Enough remaining strength of schedule in the league.

1236
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 3: Bills fans will.

1237
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Speaker 5: Be then, isn't it Dallas? Don't they play Dallas?

1238
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got ye, yes, Dallas. Then La Chargers as

1239
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 3: well after that on the road.

1240
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

1241
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Bill's fans will be cheering for

1242
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans as well this week against the six

1243
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 3: and five Colts.

1244
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 5: Who oh for sure.

1245
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's pretty self explanatory when he's look at

1246
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 3: the standings.

1247
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, right now, the bottom line is the

1248
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 5: Bills just have to They basically have to win out.

1249
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 5: I mean it it'd be hard pressed, you know. I

1250
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 5: guess seven losses could get you in, but they pretty

1251
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 5: much have to win.

1252
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: Out, right, Yeah, if you don't want to help.

1253
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 5: We know they're capable of doing that, but it's it's

1254
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 5: a tough road.

1255
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: It is a tough road, no question about it. Greg,

1256
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 2: Thanks very much. We'll catch up with you next week.

1257
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 5: All right, guys, have a great weekend. Thank you.

1258
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 3: Greg.

1259
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 2: Yep, that's Greg CoA Sale, senior producer for NFL Films,

1260
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 2: joining us as he does every week, just a little

1261
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 2: bit earlier this week, since Steve and I will not

1262
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: be on the air on Thursday and Friday for this

1263
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: bye week. It's a bye for us as well, because

1264
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 2: we'll be saying bye bye in a little over a

1265
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 2: half an hour. But here on a Wednesday, we opened

1266
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: up the obl Well Fan Friday mail Bag two days

1267
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,600
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01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,720
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Speaker 2: one bills Live. And we're going to go there now

1273
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: for a couple of your questions. Uh. Mail bag just

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Speaker 2: Andrew's question is as follows. Even though the offense has

1277
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: been a little shaky this season, I would have to

1278
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 2: say that special teams has been very inconsistent and Tyler

1279
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 2: Bass is not the same Tyler Bass that we've seen

1280
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Speaker 2: in the past. Is Tyler Bass on this team next season?

1281
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Speaker 3: Yes, I think he has two. But I'll say this,

1282
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 3: they'll bring somebody into kick.

1283
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: They just signed him to an extension last year.

1284
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Speaker 3: They'll They'll probably bring in some competition in training camp,

1285
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 3: somebody to push him and make sure he stays. You know,

1286
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Speaker 3: that's just the way it works. This last year, he

1287
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 3: was the only guy in camp. I doubt that'll be

1288
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 3: the case this next year. But I don't think there's

1289
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 3: anybody you can think of it's gonna come in and

1290
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 3: take his job.

1291
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 2: He just has to get himself right and then he'll

1292
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: be back to the Tyler Bass we all know. I

1293
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 2: think coming into this season he was the most accurate

1294
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 2: kicker in Bill's history. He just signed a long term

1295
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 2: contract extension. Unless he completely falls off a cliff and

1296
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: does it for us for the rest of the season,

1297
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 2: I don't think for a second that his job is

1298
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 2: in jeopardy. Whatsoever? Uh, let's jump back on the phones

1299
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: at eight O three oh five fifty one eight eight

1300
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: eight five point fifty two, five point fifty, gonna go

1301
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: to Judy in Buffalo? What do you have for his hold?

1302
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 2: There you go, what do you have for his Judy?

1303
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 10: Okay, you know I've read that Jalen Ramsey figured out

1304
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,480
Speaker 10: how to block a field goal for the Buffalo Bills.

1305
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 10: Now on a sixty yard field goal, we're either our

1306
01:09:54,160 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 10: our russo or Epinassa. Are tall tall men on the

1307
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 10: field who could possibly block that field goal?

1308
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1309
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 2: Tell me, well, they have tall players on field goal block.

1310
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 2: That's generally the approach you take in those situations. And

1311
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 2: Rousseau is on field goal block. If memory serves correctly,

1312
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 2: Jack Lawson has already blocked one field goal this season.

1313
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: He is on field goal block. And really, as much

1314
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 2: as we want to talk about Bass's block field goal

1315
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: from last week's game, and I think you meant Jalen

1316
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 2: Carter not Jalen Ramsey, because Jalen Carter was the player

1317
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 2: who blocked the kick for the Eagles. The difference on

1318
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: that play, I don't believe was the trajectory of the

1319
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 2: kick as much as much as it was the penetration

1320
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 2: by the Eagles defensive front on the field goal block

1321
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: that Jalen Carter blocked on Tyler Bass. I think what

1322
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 2: happened there was the penetration by Jordan Davis was extreme,

1323
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: and then Jalen Carter was allowed to fill the void

1324
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 2: in behind him, get his hand up and get a

1325
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: thumb on the football to send it wide left. So

1326
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: there are techniques to try to generate that penetration. Jordan

1327
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: Davis is a three hundred and sixty pound man. He's

1328
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: very hard to anchor against and keep grounded and not

1329
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: give up ground. His penetration allowed Jalen Carter to get closer,

1330
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: get his hand up and block the kick. The Bills

1331
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 2: have players like that too, And you know Steve knows

1332
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: more about field goal block than I do, So I

1333
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 2: don't know if you have anything to add there, but.

1334
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 3: No, I mean there's a lot of skill and a

1335
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 3: lot of effort involved, and a lot of physical abilities involved.

1336
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 3: Height being one of them, weight being one of them,

1337
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 3: explosion being another, and also just dumb luck because if

1338
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 3: Tyler Bass hits that ball six inches to the right,

1339
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 3: it still goes through the uprights and nobody even gives

1340
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 3: it a second thought.

1341
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 2: And the other thing, too, is, no matter what kind

1342
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: of technique you have as an offensive player on that

1343
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 2: field goal unit for the Bills, you could try to

1344
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: anchor as much as you want, but on a wet

1345
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 2: field that's grass, that's essentially mud by that point in

1346
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 2: the game, and you're asked to hold your ground against

1347
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 2: a three hundred and sixty pound man who's got fire

1348
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: coming out of his nose. Easier said than done. You know,

1349
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to give him an excuse. I'm sure

1350
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 2: whoever that was over there did the best that they could.

1351
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: But in light of the conditions and in light of

1352
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: the talent and the man across from him giving up

1353
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 2: a little ground to that guy, It's gonna happen every

1354
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 2: once in a while. It's unfortunate that it happened, especially

1355
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 2: in a three point game, but it happened. They It's

1356
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 2: like the guy said in the locker room after the game,

1357
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 2: they made a few more plays than we did. Everybody's

1358
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: gonna talk about the Jalen Hurts quarterback run at the

1359
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: end of the game to clinch it but there's a

1360
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: fifty nine yard field goal in there to force overtime.

1361
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 2: There's a field goal block because Jordan Davis has an

1362
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: excellent get off on the block team to allow Jalen

1363
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 2: Carter to sneak through and get a hand up. They

1364
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,839
Speaker 2: made war plays and the Bills did, plain and simple.

1365
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just did.

1366
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: Let's go to let's seeho's waiting the longest?

1367
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 3: Here?

1368
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 2: We go to Patrick in PA. What do you got

1369
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 2: for as Patrick.

1370
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 11: Hey, Chris Hey, Steve. I appreciate everything you guys do

1371
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 11: you know guys who usually spot on new takes and whatnot.

1372
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 11: I just wanted to speak on I guess a little

1373
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 11: bit on Bean and a little bit on McDermott respectively.

1374
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 11: Other than finding a franchise quarterback in the NFL, you know,

1375
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 11: finding a head coach is the next hardest thing. And

1376
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 11: I'm thirty years old. You know, I've been a Bills

1377
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 11: fan for my whole life. Eric Moles my favorite player.

1378
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 11: First football memory really is the Music City Miracle. But

1379
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 11: I've been with the Bills, you know, my whole life.

1380
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 11: McDermott brought us from the depths, and he rebuilt a

1381
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 11: culture and you know, gave us a winning brand and

1382
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 11: for that I'm forever grateful. But at the same time,

1383
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 11: there's a trend here with the blown games, and I

1384
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 11: know you guys point to positive and negative regression a lot.

1385
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 11: You know it'll it'll aggress to the mean eventually, but

1386
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 11: we're constantly on the wrong end of these games of

1387
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 11: the year. Uh, the soft coverage on defense, and over time,

1388
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 11: it seems to be a trend. I don't know. I

1389
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 11: know you can't go off with the guy's head. That

1390
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,799
Speaker 11: probably puts you in reverse for a couple of years,

1391
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 11: but I think it would be negligent to totally disregard

1392
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 11: it as well. Obviously they're going to give him the

1393
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 11: rest of the year and we'll see what happens down

1394
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 11: down the line. But uh, I don't think it should

1395
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 11: just be uh. You know, McDermott's is as safe as anyone.

1396
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 11: And then to Bean, Uh, I do think he's given

1397
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 11: us a pretty good roster, don't get me wrong. But

1398
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 11: at the same time, I really do feel like this

1399
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 11: team las playmakers at times. I just look at all

1400
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 11: the rosters and gems around the league. You know, John

1401
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 11: Lynch for the Niners, Roseman with the Eagles, the Cowboys,

1402
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 11: even a team like the Steelers, I feel like their

1403
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 11: skill guys. I would probably trade their skill group for

1404
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 11: our skill group straight up. And that's just being honest.

1405
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 11: And I just don't feel like there are enough big names. Yeah,

1406
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 11: some of ours are injured, White, Miller, Hide, employer aging,

1407
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 11: they're on you know, uh, Miller and White on big contracts,

1408
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 11: they're injured, getting older. This roster needs some sitious help,

1409
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 11: I feel here soon. And I just don't know if

1410
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 11: they're aggressive enough at times for my liking as far

1411
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 11: as going and getting players, uh, as far as what

1412
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 11: they do in the draft, I don't know. I guess

1413
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 11: I kind of just like to hear your guys.

1414
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 4: Thoughts on some of that stuffs.

1415
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 2: So, Steve, why don't you address McDermott, I'll address being.

1416
01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I disagree with I mean, yeah, every head coach

1417
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 3: is under pressure to win games, no question about it,

1418
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 3: and I think it's wrong to say it's a trend.

1419
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 3: I think it's as difficult as anything you look down.

1420
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 3: It has been thirty five games since the Bills lost

1421
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 3: a game in the regular season by double digits thirty five.

1422
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 3: Next closest is thirteen. The Bills are hard to beat

1423
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 3: because this coach maximizes whatever it is on this field

1424
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 3: that they've got, despite whatever injuries they've gotten to cornerback one,

1425
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 3: to linebacker one, to pass rusher one, all the way

1426
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 3: across the defensive side of the ball, even quarterback two,

1427
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 3: even cornerback three, run stuff for one, run stuff for one.

1428
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 3: All of those guys gone, and they continue to be

1429
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 3: in every game and compete at a high level. He

1430
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: made the move at offensive coordinator at a time after

1431
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 3: got rid of a coordinator who had this group with

1432
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 3: a lesser offensive line scoring more points than thirty other

1433
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 3: teams in the NFL a year ago, and they hit

1434
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 3: a dry spell, and he made the call to make

1435
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 3: the change. And I get this, and I do not

1436
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 3: see and because we chew on this all day, every day.

1437
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,799
Speaker 3: And here's what I think my takeaway from this Philly

1438
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 3: game is we all look for this pattern like we're

1439
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 3: getting out coached, we're getting out played, Our quarterback's not

1440
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 3: good enough, our skill guys aren't good enough. Because in

1441
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 3: each of these games, there are examples of us having

1442
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 3: a problem in one of those areas. In one way,

1443
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 3: shape or form. That is not a trend. That's life

1444
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 3: in the NFL. Every other team wishes they had the

1445
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 3: list of problems the Bills do because they struggle to

1446
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 3: stay in games a lot of when the Bills never

1447
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 3: do that.

1448
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: Cowboys just got boat raced by the Niners forty two

1449
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 2: to ten.

1450
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 3: The Bills are so difficult to beat because every game

1451
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 3: is gonna look every loss that they take, whether it's

1452
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 3: six losses or two losses, every loss they take is

1453
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 3: gonna look like every loss this year. It's gonna be

1454
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 3: this play, now, that play, and the other play, and

1455
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 3: that's three losses right there.

1456
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 2: That's it.

1457
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 3: This team certainly has underperformed in the win loss column,

1458
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 3: but it's not because they've consistently been out coached. It's

1459
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,759
Speaker 3: not because their quarterback hasn't played good enough consistent basis.

1460
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 3: It's not because they've uh it's not because the referees

1461
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 3: have officiated poorly every single game. It's not a none

1462
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 3: of those things are related. Every loss is gonna be

1463
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 3: for a reason, and it's when you come down and

1464
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 3: you start slicing every game down to one play that's

1465
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 3: made the difference, which you can do in all six

1466
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 3: losses and thirty five of the last losses they've had

1467
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 3: in the regular season. You can come down and do that.

1468
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 3: You I can't tell you how good you have to

1469
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 3: be to do that. And I get it. Everybody's frustrated

1470
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 3: because we got beat by a miscommunication on a pass.

1471
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 3: We got beat like twelve guys on the on the field.

1472
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 3: We got beat by a missed field goal. We got

1473
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 3: beat by a miracle field goal in a rainstorm from

1474
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 3: fifty nine yards. We got beat by a miracle fourth

1475
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 3: and eighteen conversion last year when our guy was gonna

1476
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 3: knock it away and help actually help the guy catch it.

1477
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 3: We got beat because we fumbled a snap on a

1478
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,799
Speaker 3: quarterback sneak to end the game. That's not a trend,

1479
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 3: that's that's life. I hate to say it like that,

1480
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 3: but you can't like hang Brandon Bean out to dry

1481
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 3: because you don't think we could have won. You're you're

1482
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 3: pointing at all of these plays and you're saying we

1483
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 3: didn't have enough juice to win those games. I mean,

1484
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 3: I I get it. It's it stinks to be here

1485
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 3: when it doesn't seem anybody to blame. There's no one

1486
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 3: person consistently this and I know people come up say

1487
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 3: it's mcnermot, it's McDermot. It's McDermot, it's mcd because he's

1488
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 3: the guy they see out there clapping his hands on

1489
01:19:55,360 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 3: the sidelines. I can't get there. I can't get there.

1490
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 2: He's covering up for a lot. I would argue that

1491
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 2: he's calling defensive plays with an arm tied behind his

1492
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 2: back because Patrick's talking about the lack of playmakers. You

1493
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 2: got your number one corner out for the year, you

1494
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 2: got your all Pro linebacker who makes more plays than

1495
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 2: anybody on that side of the ball out for the year,

1496
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 2: and you got your best run stuffer out for the year,

1497
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: and your best pass rusher is coming off an ACL injury.

1498
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 2: Do that with any other football team. So that would

1499
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 2: be like the Cowboys not having Micah Parsons, Trayvon Diggs,

1500
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: who they don't have, their best run stuffer and their

1501
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 2: best linebacker. Take all four of those off the Dallas defense.

1502
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 2: Let's see how they look. So, I mean, that's it.

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01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here. I will address

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01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 2: the bean thing though when we come back here on

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01:20:40,800 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. Stay tuned and welcome back to one

1506
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,879
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. And just to wrap up some of Patrick's comments,

1507
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 2: you know, he said he thought being should be more

1508
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 2: aggressive in the offseason building the roster of things of

1509
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: that nature. I think number one, he's been very aggressive

1510
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 2: in the draft, going up and getting players that he wants.

1511
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: That track record speaks for itself. And then as for

1512
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 2: free agency, going after von Miller was aggressive and unfortunately,

1513
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: even though the first ten games are great, he had

1514
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: eight sacks in his first ten games, he tears his

1515
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 2: ACL and it hasn't panned out because they've had to

1516
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 2: wait on him for a calendar year. So sometimes being

1517
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 2: aggressive doesn't work either, I think. And this is a

1518
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 2: team where Terry Pigula has been all too eager to

1519
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 2: spend money to make the team better, restructuring contracts to

1520
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: make more cap room that costs the owner money. And

1521
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 2: he's done it every time he's been asked to try

1522
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 2: to make the team better. But they've had to do

1523
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: free agency on a budget. How's Leonard Floyd looking right now? Like, seriously,

1524
01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: I don't understand it. I really don't.

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01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 3: I'll say this too, and I know everybody's gonna have

1526
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 3: their own thoughts about.

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01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,600
Speaker 2: Rasoul Douglas trade. I mean, that's not aggressive middle of

1528
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: the season. I don't get it.

1529
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 3: I really don't and I'll say this about McDermott and

1530
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 3: everybody tries to how difficult How many hoops do you

1531
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 3: have to jump through? Never to get beat by more

1532
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 3: than one score?

1533
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 2: I mean you, I don't think anybody's done that math,

1534
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 2: but it's hard.

1535
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 3: It's I mean, this team, he is They are never

1536
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 3: out of it, and I get it. Closing the deal,

1537
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 3: you're different. I don't know how you consistently with the

1538
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 3: way that this team has done it. Now, certainly you

1539
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 3: can say, you know, twelve men on the field. Okay,

1540
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 3: you can lay that at his feet, fine, but man,

1541
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: oh man, they got the number one toughest schedule in

1542
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 3: the league, and they are they are consistently almost impossible

1543
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 3: to beat. You gotta event ways to beat this team.

1544
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 3: And a rainstorm.

1545
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 2: Seriously, Yeah, let's go to Colin in Rochester. What do

1546
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: you got? First callin?

1547
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 10: Hi?

1548
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 2: You doing?

1549
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 11: How you doing?

1550
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 9: Guys?

1551
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 12: So I had three quick things. I don't think Sean

1552
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 12: McDermott is going anywhere. You lose him, you lose your

1553
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 12: defensive coordinator, so you're gonna look for a head coach

1554
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 12: and the defensive coordinator.

1555
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 6: Uh.

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01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 12: The second thing is just so many injuries. It's like man,

1557
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 12: what you know, previous years maybe one at the most,

1558
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 12: if not two, and this year it's been five. So

1559
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 12: I don't know if something's changed, you know, the way

1560
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 12: they prepped for stuff.

1561
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1562
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 12: I just want to get your guys opinion on that.

1563
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,440
Speaker 12: And then me personally, I think the Bill should have

1564
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 12: gone for it on the fourth and six. I know

1565
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 12: they got the field goal, but me, just the way

1566
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 12: the game was rolling, I would have chanced it. As

1567
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 12: soon as I kicked the field go, I go, We're

1568
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 12: going to lose the game. I just I had a

1569
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 12: gut feeling and I'm so done getting mad at the Bills.

1570
01:23:58,840 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 12: I just get disappointed.

1571
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 10: Now.

1572
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 12: Yeah, you guys, and you.

1573
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 2: Know, thoughts on that, as Steve said earlier. As Steve

1574
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 2: said earlier, when you're zwing six and overtime games, it sucks.

1575
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 2: There's no other way to look at it. It sucks.

1576
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'll say this, the injuries. In twenty and

1577
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 3: twenty one, the Bills were less injured than anybody in

1578
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 3: the league.

1579
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 2: They were the healthiest team.

1580
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 3: They were the healthiest team in football. Now they're not

1581
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 3: in the last two years, and.

1582
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: Once again we're talking about the law of averages. It's

1583
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 2: a collision sport. It doesn't have to do with any

1584
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,879
Speaker 2: training or all of that stuff. I mean, Matt mlonald

1585
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:33,759
Speaker 2: gets rolled up at the back end of a pile

1586
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 2: in London and snaps his leg like that has nothing

1587
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: to do with training whatever he did in the offseason,

1588
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 2: And nobody trains harder than that guy, by the way,

1589
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 2: either And Trenevious White non contact, sticks his foot in

1590
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 2: the ground and his achilles snaps. That has nothing to

1591
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 2: do with training. Yeah, but there's season ending injuries to

1592
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 2: two of your biggest playmakers on defense who have both

1593
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 2: been All Pro by the way, I mean, it's not

1594
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 2: like you're losing your fourth corner.

1595
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Colin going forward on fourth and six. Obviously,

1596
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 3: if we all knew the outcome before that, he probably

1597
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 3: would have gone forward on fourth and six. But if

1598
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 3: if you don't make a fifty nine yarder uh in

1599
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 3: the game, that fourth and six never happens. So there's

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01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 3: a lot in that for sure. And every and that's

1601
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 3: the frustrating part about being a Bills fan in this

1602
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 3: in Miss McDermott and bean Era, every single loss, you

1603
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 3: can you can pinpoint one minute thing, one play that

1604
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 3: would have made all the difference and it you know,

1605
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 3: and in every loss that it's always against you, and

1606
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 3: you start you start to look for for ghosts, like, oh,

1607
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 3: there's something systemically wrong with it. Now you're you're in

1608
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 3: a tough league and you're in all these games and

1609
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 3: you make enough plays, so you gotta make it. You

1610
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 3: gotta make the plays. And certainly, if all those great

1611
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 3: players that we've been mentioning were healthy, some of those games,

1612
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 3: at least a couple one, two, half of them would

1613
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 3: be a little different at the end. Yeah, So there

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Speaker 3: you go, All.

1615
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 2: Right, break time for us. One more segment to go.

1616
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 2: We'll try to squeeze a phone call or two in

1617
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 2: here when we come back on one Bill's Live. All right,

1618
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: quick reminder for our hockey fans, Sabers Live will be

1619
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: on radio only Thursday and Friday, even though we will

1620
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,879
Speaker 2: not as we are on the bye week. Let's squeeze

1621
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: in Carol in north Tonawanda here quickly. What do you

1622
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 2: got Carol?

1623
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, guys, you know, this last game was a true heartbreaker,

1624
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 13: but it was a fantastic game. There were some missed

1625
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 13: opportunities that we can't squander, and there's much to be

1626
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 13: desired regarding roughing, but I think if we tighten things up,

1627
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 13: we can certainly go out winning and get to the playoff.

1628
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 13: The other thing regarding Alan is if staffed in analytics

1629
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 13: say he's the best, then he should win the MDP.

1630
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 13: You can't control other people's actions and their performance, but

1631
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 13: he's the best, he should win. In twenty twenty one,

1632
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 13: he didn't win it. He had a winning season. They

1633
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 13: went and gave it to Rogers, and I understand they're

1634
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 13: supposed to be a new way for selectioning MVP, and

1635
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 13: it would be interesting to see if the process could

1636
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:27,600
Speaker 13: be transparent. And lastly, I just have a question. It

1637
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 13: seems sometimes at the end of the game, when we're

1638
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 13: playing defense, you know, a long pass, a long run

1639
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 13: is able to be afforded to the opposing team. I

1640
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 13: know they're trying to play conservatives to stop that long pass,

1641
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 13: but is there anything different that can be done? Thanks guys,

1642
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 13: they have a nice couple of days off.

1643
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Keryl. They did try some different things this

1644
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: last week. I broke down the last two drives play

1645
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 2: by play because we have this narrative that you know,

1646
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 2: this defense has been too conservative going all the way

1647
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 2: back to the divisional playoff against cincinnat and that was

1648
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 2: not the case. On Sunday, coach McDermott called two zero blitzes.

1649
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 2: Neither of them worked, so he tried to be aggressive.

1650
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 2: That didn't work, and then he tried some other things

1651
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 2: like match coverage, played man on one side, zone on

1652
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: the other, those kinds of things. He tried to mix

1653
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 2: it up as best he could, knowing full well that

1654
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 2: he's limited in his play calling choices because of the

1655
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 2: people he has to put on the field due to injury.

1656
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 2: So he's limited from a talent standpoint, which then limits

1657
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 2: his play calling ability, and that limits the defense as

1658
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 2: a whole.

1659
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 3: And also there are times when you're gonna he might

1660
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 3: try and sneak one of those plays in and depend

1661
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,839
Speaker 3: on those guys and they just and that's a matchup

1662
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 3: that the offense is looking for. They'll tell a guy

1663
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 3: like Joe Burrow or Jalen Hurtz or Pat Mahomes or

1664
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 3: Tua if you see this guy on this guy and

1665
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 3: it's man, hit it sooner or later. No matter how

1666
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,560
Speaker 3: many times you try and avoid it. Once in a

1667
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 3: while you try it and you get stuck. Sometimes that's

1668
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 3: happened to this team. The injuries in the secondary I

1669
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 3: think have been the most underrated thing that they've tried

1670
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 3: to overcome this year and up until you know, like

1671
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 3: I said, they've done half the you know, six and six,

1672
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 3: so it hasn't all gone well.

1673
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 2: Right, and they'll undoubtedly be searching for answers. On this

1674
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 2: bye week. The coaches keep on working even though the

1675
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 2: players are off, so they'll do self scouting and other

1676
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 2: stuff to find better answers. And Sean McDermott six and

1677
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 2: oho out of the by. Hopefully that continues this coming

1678
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 2: week in Kansas City. We'll see on Monday at noon. Everybody,

1679
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 2: enjoy your weekend.