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Speaker 3: I mean, Q's already had a whole entire day. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: well sort of.
Speaker 4: Oh my day started, My day started about the day.
Speaker 4: What time your day usually starts today?
Speaker 3: Baby boy?
Speaker 4: Man, hey, no, not him? Oh another one gets six?
Speaker 4: Another was always a fun surprise. Yeah. It's like watching
Speaker 4: an old war movie where your like favorite characters are
Speaker 4: just getting clipped off one.
Speaker 3: By that flu that's that's that's seriously what.
Speaker 4: Words like you're gonna knock at the door and the
Speaker 4: night it's like, oh no, not another one?
Speaker 2: Oh down goes slow no, no, slow, not.
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Speaker 3: I love that character.
Speaker 5: Why that's all I deal with is mister Stakes creeping
Speaker 5: up on me while I try to sleep.
Speaker 3: Why we would let you know? If I have to
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Speaker 2: To geez, didn't he just redo his place in New
Speaker 2: York Well to be good for resout?
Speaker 3: That's unfortunate. I mean, I think when you're that rich
Speaker 3: you can have multiple places. Oh why not? Right? So
Speaker 3: it is a New Yorker, Jersey wherever sat, It's probably
Speaker 3: a good place to have one of those, one of
Speaker 3: those spots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's official. The Jets have announced that they have
Speaker 2: decided to move on from Aaron Rodgers head coach Aaron
Speaker 2: Glenn GM Darren Moogie. They released a joint statement that
Speaker 2: they shared the intentions with Rogers when they met last week,
Speaker 2: that they are moving on. Quote, it was important to
Speaker 2: have this discussion now to provide clarity and enable each
Speaker 2: of us the proper time to plan for our respective futures.
Speaker 2: We want to thank him for his leadership, passion, and
Speaker 2: dedication he brought to the organized We wish him success
Speaker 2: moving forward. That's very nice. Yeah, cordial and kind. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm amicable. Well, I'm sure they'll they'll have the right
Speaker 2: plan in place. They usually do in New York with
Speaker 2: the Jets, So yeah.
Speaker 3: Come on, come on. Yeah, we are really really hoping
Speaker 3: that everything works out for you. Aaron Rodgers. We really
Speaker 3: hope it works out for you. But you know, it's
Speaker 3: just time to move on.
Speaker 2: You don't know how bad they aren't figuring out quarterback.
Speaker 2: I had almost forgot that Sam Darnold started his career there.
Speaker 2: That seems like an eternity ago. Yeah, that wasn't that
Speaker 2: long ago. The Zach Wilson experience, number one, Mike White
Speaker 2: mixed in there, like the good ballplayer. Just all of
Speaker 2: it has been a disaster. So I don't have any confidents.
Speaker 2: They'll figure this out.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you, guys this, How will the Aaron
Speaker 4: Rodgers era in New York be remembered?
Speaker 3: Mmm?
Speaker 4: What's the highlight? It's him getting I'll see. Can I
Speaker 4: give you what comes to mind when I hear that? Yeah,
Speaker 4: when he was running out of the tunnel with the flag. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that was like the highest moment at any point I
Speaker 4: think during this tenure for the Jets, if you think
Speaker 4: about it, like that was the moment where he was there.
Speaker 3: It was real.
Speaker 4: You had all this optimism, you were so excited, you
Speaker 4: finally had the final piece to go with this very
Speaker 4: talented roster, and then ended like four plays in that game.
Speaker 4: But that was probably the height of the entire Aaron
Speaker 4: Rodgers with the New York Jets. I don't want to
Speaker 4: call it an experiment, but experience is really what it was.
Speaker 3: I call it debacle.
Speaker 5: I just think that what everybody was anticipating, in what
Speaker 5: everybody was expecting with the level of talent that you
Speaker 5: had on that team, I think that there was a
Speaker 5: high expectation. Well, we know there was a high expectation.
Speaker 5: It came from our show as well, you know from
Speaker 5: from certain certain very very you know, knowledgeable one of
Speaker 5: those go and said, I always want to them and
Speaker 5: learn it. No, no, I don't need to throw any names.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying I'll give credit incredibility for it. I'll
Speaker 5: give credit where credit is due. We have some very
Speaker 5: intelligent minds on this show, and those minds felt very,
Speaker 5: very confident, very bullish about what the New York Jets
Speaker 5: would be able to do.
Speaker 3: And Aaron Rodgers being the catalysts of that app mind
Speaker 3: or minds, because I know Brady mind made the mind
Speaker 3: floral minds. I had them. I had them winning the
Speaker 3: AFC East.
Speaker 4: I also had Buffalo as a playoff team, which, by
Speaker 4: the way, lead a lap Our executive producer who's standing
Speaker 4: by somewhere. We've never done our season review, which we
Speaker 4: typically do by now. I'm not sure why we keep
Speaker 4: kicking it down the road. It's probably because Jonas had
Speaker 4: the Bengals and the Cowboys and the Super Bowl. I mean,
Speaker 4: I can at least say this, I did have one
Speaker 4: of the teams for my preseason picks make the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Well, so you go that, yeah, do we want to
Speaker 2: bang those out today? Why not?
Speaker 4: At some point we should at some point, but I
Speaker 4: think you've been pushing this off for a while for
Speaker 4: some reason.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, I mean, did you get in the playoffs?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: I'm at the super Bowl, but did you get any
Speaker 2: into the playoff? I think the Calgary Flames winning this year.
Speaker 2: My picks were awful, just awful. But you know, we
Speaker 2: will to address that discussion when we get to it.
Speaker 2: I was also bolish on the New.
Speaker 3: York Thank you.
Speaker 5: I'm glad you owned it because you're talking about plural
Speaker 5: or singular.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're owning it. But the point is there
Speaker 3: were and and and rightfully so.
Speaker 5: Right Aaron Rodgers is one of the greatest quarterbacks of
Speaker 5: all time, one of the greatest football players of all time.
Speaker 5: No one will argue or debate that. I just think
Speaker 5: that when you look at and just the way the
Speaker 5: stage was set right Tom Brady and what he was
Speaker 5: able to do in a COVID year and the situation
Speaker 5: being what it was, and him being one of the
Speaker 5: greats to ever do it. And he goes to a
Speaker 5: team that you know they needed help, they were missing something.
Speaker 5: They go win the Super Bowl the very first year
Speaker 5: he gets there, And I think that set the tone
Speaker 5: for how it was going to be viewed for Aaron
Speaker 5: Rodgers going to such a talented roster of a team, and.
Speaker 3: It did not I mean like he got hurt. I mean,
Speaker 3: let's be clear.
Speaker 5: The first season, we could say what we want to
Speaker 5: say about how it all ended this past year because
Speaker 5: that was that was trash too, shouts out to Bubba dub.
Speaker 5: But his first year he got injured, and okay, that
Speaker 5: derailed what we thought we were going to see. So
Speaker 5: we'll never know what it was going to be. Year one,
Speaker 5: he runs out with the flag a j'all mentioned, it's
Speaker 5: the start of a new era. How does it all
Speaker 5: play out? We'll never know because he ended up getting
Speaker 5: injured not too far into the game. But this this year,
Speaker 5: it kind of it left a bad taste. If you're
Speaker 5: asking me, it left a bad taste in my mouth
Speaker 5: because how does that How do you fall that far?
Speaker 5: How do you get that far from the success? Because
Speaker 5: you had drama in Green Bay, but you were still
Speaker 5: able to play with with the puffy bottom and make
Speaker 5: plays and get MVPs and make it to the playoffs.
Speaker 5: You still played through the drama in Green Bay, and
Speaker 5: that was everything, but what happened when he was in
Speaker 5: in New York for this past season it was just
Speaker 5: really bad. So it's disappointing. It's just two people that
Speaker 5: weren't meant to be together. Just a bad idea seem
Speaker 5: great in theory. It's like it's like matching up too
Speaker 5: drug autos.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, why do you have to go there, Jonas,
Speaker 3: don't we have an example that's like?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I really, I mean just right in our studio and
Speaker 3: in our room right now. Yeah, I really wasn't like that.
Speaker 3: Wasn't the play there? Not the day for that? I'm
Speaker 3: not sure why you say that. What do you mean
Speaker 3: the day? It's a day of love?
Speaker 2: How did yesterday play out going into Valentine's Day? What
Speaker 2: was the role play yesterday?
Speaker 6: Yesterday was just clean old fashioned fund. There's no what's
Speaker 6: clean old fashion fund? Nothing clean and old fashioned about
Speaker 6: your relationship? What was clean and old fashioned?
Speaker 3: Nothing fancy.
Speaker 7: I'm leaving all the theatrics for today Today's Valentine's.
Speaker 4: Day, Jonas, can you update our audience on what exactly
Speaker 4: lavarn Ley are talking about?
Speaker 2: Wow? So for people that are not familiar with this show,
Speaker 2: lead to lap, our executive producers in the midst of
Speaker 2: complete and total chaos in his personal life. He's you know,
Speaker 2: in and out on good terms and then bad terms
Speaker 2: with his in his current relationship with.
Speaker 5: Himself, Yeah, and he has a toxic relationship not only
Speaker 5: with himself but with the loved one that he tries
Speaker 5: to bring into the toxic relationship that he already has.
Speaker 2: It's like an F three tornado where you see stuff
Speaker 2: flying around inside of it. You just said you've been
Speaker 2: looking for tornado. I was, but you had one right
Speaker 2: frunning and I didn't realize that he was here and
Speaker 2: so flying so finally, like flying around in the midst
Speaker 2: of this tornado is Lee's not only his relationship but also.
Speaker 3: His living arrangements. Living arrangements because his.
Speaker 2: Personal items now he's uh, the bombs that live around him,
Speaker 2: staying in part time in a motel, the couches that
Speaker 2: he's surfing on so to spice things up inside the motel.
Speaker 2: And it's by the way, high end motel. It's one
Speaker 2: of those ones that comes with a key with the
Speaker 2: room number.
Speaker 3: On a plasta. The logo looks like if you want
Speaker 3: at on the slots in Vegas, like.
Speaker 2: If you want to know what it's like to get
Speaker 2: into Lee motel. It's like using the restroom at a
Speaker 2: gas station. They give you a squeegee with the key
Speaker 2: on the end of it, you know, unlock a door
Speaker 2: that doesn't close all the way. And and Lee decided,
Speaker 2: you know, why don't we spice things up a little bit.
Speaker 2: The oscars are right around the corner. I'm out a
Speaker 2: little role play. I'm going to role play that.
Speaker 3: I'm a John. So the two the two movies you
Speaker 3: do you do the math, I'm going to be a John.
Speaker 2: The two movies they role played were Pretty Woman and Psycho,
Speaker 2: And we're not making that up.
Speaker 3: We're not making that up. So so we're trying to
Speaker 3: figure out what the movie.
Speaker 5: People out there were trying to figure out what the
Speaker 5: movie was last night, So he tried to call it
Speaker 5: driving Miss Daisy last night.
Speaker 3: I don't bat all right, let's let let's get it
Speaker 3: back on track.
Speaker 2: So basically, I wonder if they're gonna go Amistad tomorrow
Speaker 2: seven his significant other are the fairest comparison for maybe
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.
Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, that's that's fair. And think about it.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, Aaron Rodgers, you got hurt? How to
Speaker 4: go under the knife? Lee's clothes have gone under the
Speaker 4: knife taking a whacking, you.
Speaker 3: Know, please face one under the knife too.
Speaker 4: Lee's been on ir Aaron Rodgers was on IRAN. There's
Speaker 4: been a lot of hope and optimism at times that
Speaker 4: I have only been squashed by despair and disbelief. Is
Speaker 4: the situation leaks darkness, some would say.
Speaker 2: Leaks, Yeah, this is good, this is goods of the organization,
Speaker 2: you know, conversations, conversations, organization conversations and relationships taking place
Speaker 2: kind of sort of outside of the relationship, you know, backstabbings,
Speaker 2: the weight room debacle. Literally, yeah, there's a it happens.
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't, but you know, in this case
Speaker 2: it does. It does, but in these days indeed, so
Speaker 2: now the the conversation now turns to, uh, what's next,
Speaker 2: because I mean, who knows what the Jets are gonna be?
Speaker 2: What's more interesting? What's next with Aaron Lee or Rogers.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Rogers, just get back on the trail
Speaker 2: real quick, if this is your plan for the Jets.
Speaker 4: And we heard the rumors reports about the request to
Speaker 4: not do the Pat McAfee show, which I said earlier
Speaker 4: this week.
Speaker 3: Technically it's illegal.
Speaker 4: You know, you can't have a coach ask you not
Speaker 4: to do something like a voluntary you know, media session
Speaker 4: like that, or even hey, you have to be there
Speaker 4: for the offseason. Okay, put in his contract as a
Speaker 4: workout bonus, but you can't make it mandatory that he
Speaker 4: goes to the voluntary ota sessions that's within the CBA,
Speaker 4: that's been negotiated. Every time there's a collective bargain agreement
Speaker 4: negotiation that comes up, that's always the opportunity for the
Speaker 4: owners to put in a contract a workout bonus. Otherwise
Speaker 4: it's kind of voluntary. Now, granted, as a quarterback, probably
Speaker 4: should be there, but they've got every right and they've
Speaker 4: bargained for it not to. So two things of which
Speaker 4: they asked him a bit unfair.
Speaker 5: It's not illegal for them to ask it, right, it's
Speaker 5: illegal for them to exercise any type of disciplinary actions
Speaker 5: or any type of right.
Speaker 4: I mean, like, there's nothing you can do. You can
Speaker 4: ask him whatever you want in that regard, but there's nothing.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm curious because I mean to even ask,
Speaker 3: you know, well, I think the thought is it's not
Speaker 3: about the masking, it's about the mandating. It.
Speaker 4: It's about them saying, if you're not going to be
Speaker 4: here for the offseason, if you're not going to guarantee
Speaker 4: us that you're not going to do the Pat McAfee
Speaker 4: show and to see the other media opportunities, which I
Speaker 4: guess reportedly they didn't. Didn't have an issue with Joe Rogan.
Speaker 4: They just had an issue with Pat McAfee. So take
Speaker 4: that for what it's worth. But if that was what
Speaker 4: it ultimately was about, like those things, you can't mandate
Speaker 4: in order for him to be able to come back
Speaker 4: to fit within your plans. You can ask him not to,
Speaker 4: but he's got free range to do whatever he wants
Speaker 4: in those two specific areas. So I guess it begs
Speaker 4: the question, now that we know they aren't going to
Speaker 4: be moving on with Aaron Rodgers, what is the plan
Speaker 4: new they're gonna draft. If you'renna draft someone, is that
Speaker 4: the plan you're gonna have is a Sam Donald you're
Speaker 4: gonna go back to? It seems rather unlikely, given that
Speaker 4: you already draft him in the first place, and and
Speaker 4: maybe moved on too soon or didn't prepare him with
Speaker 4: enough around him to allow him to be successful. So
Speaker 4: that's my first question is is what do you do
Speaker 4: if you know New York Jets. Are you basically throwing
Speaker 4: the towel already on twenty twenty five or do you
Speaker 4: actually have a plan to go get a quarterback.
Speaker 3: Who is the bow Nix of this draft, Because if
Speaker 3: you don't have a bow Knix in this that guy
Speaker 3: would be in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if he's not in this draft, then you gotta
Speaker 5: find one in free agency. Otherwise you're wasting a pick
Speaker 5: and you're wasting your time. If you haven't been able
Speaker 5: to figure it out with someone like Aaron Rodgers or
Speaker 5: the draft picks that you've had prior to him, you'd
Speaker 5: have to assume that you gotta find a guy that
Speaker 5: that has that ability that goes along with the coaching
Speaker 5: staff by the way, I mean, you gotta have the
Speaker 5: coaching and they got to have the ability to utilize them.
Speaker 5: I mean give Sean Payton and his staff all the
Speaker 5: credit in the world being able to figure out how
Speaker 5: to use bow knicks the way that they did. But
Speaker 5: if you're not getting a bow Knicks in this and
Speaker 5: I say bon Nicks because I think that like a
Speaker 5: number one pick, a move up get the top quarterback
Speaker 5: in the draft. I don't think it really works in
Speaker 5: any singular draft. You're not going to get that hit guy.
Speaker 5: I mean it happened with CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud. I get it, Like I feel like that was
Speaker 3: that's that's that was. That's a not a that's a
Speaker 3: rare occurrence.
Speaker 5: You're you You're not going to have the type of
Speaker 5: time you need in New York their media market, their
Speaker 5: media are savages. They are straight savage. And how they
Speaker 5: do coverage and how they they they are very relentless
Speaker 5: on on their sports teams. I just don't know that
Speaker 5: if you bring in somebody that this is who it's
Speaker 5: supposed to be and it goes top pick and this,
Speaker 5: that and the other, they aren't gonna make it because
Speaker 5: they aren't going to have enough time. They an're gonna
Speaker 5: make it.
Speaker 2: It's the Jets, like like we're missing like a really
Speaker 2: key incredence this whole thing. They can't be trusted really
Speaker 2: like the Jets. And I've said this before, They've got
Speaker 2: two legendary members of the organization. One of them more
Speaker 2: panty hosing a commercial and the other one had a
Speaker 2: foot fetish like it's the Jets. You cannot trust them
Speaker 2: to make the right decision. When they're saying we're moving on,
Speaker 2: Rogers is probably going, sweet, Okay, I'm sure you guys
Speaker 2: will have it all figured out. I have zero confidence
Speaker 2: that they'll get this thing together. And it would not
Speaker 2: shock me if they were worse next year. And then
Speaker 2: are you gonna blame Roger? Like like all of this
Speaker 2: whole discussion about well, you know, they got to get
Speaker 2: rid of Rogers. They don't need this much, you know,
Speaker 2: distraction and dysfunction with the organization. It was always there.
Speaker 2: Rogers called it out himself. It was like, we got
Speaker 2: to get rid of the leaks, and already they've got
Speaker 2: leaks with this report of demands they made to him.
Speaker 2: I zero confidence in that organization. I don't disagree.
Speaker 4: I think to answer your question of LeVar about who's
Speaker 4: the next Bonnicks, to me, there's not a guy that
Speaker 4: fits the bo Nicks description. Jonas Throat Jackson Dart's name,
Speaker 4: and I'm a fan of him, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: But I don't know that any of these quarterbacks rank
Speaker 4: up within the top five of last year's If you're
Speaker 4: looking at a prospect rank and how you look at them.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're not as experienced. In some cases.
Speaker 4: I would say, you know, cam warden Shador had the
Speaker 4: best tape of any of the quarterbacks this year, then
Speaker 4: Jackson Dart in my opinion, But you know, again, you're
Speaker 4: kind of looking at it going, all right, how does
Speaker 4: that compare to last year's class. Last year's class had
Speaker 4: some studs. Me, you're talking about Jade Daniels, who's the
Speaker 4: offensive rookie of the year. Turned out that way. Michael
Speaker 4: Pennix to me, had the second best film of a
Speaker 4: quarterback last year.
Speaker 3: That just so happened.
Speaker 4: He ended up in a situation where they signed Cousins
Speaker 4: to a ninety million dollar guaranteed deal, so he wasn't
Speaker 4: gonna see the field right away until Cousins didn't perform
Speaker 4: well enough. So now it is his team. But you
Speaker 4: look at bo Nicks, a ton of experience. He was
Speaker 4: probably number three in regards to how well he played
Speaker 4: his final year at Oregon. And then Caleb Williams for
Speaker 4: being real about ourselves. I mean, Caleb played fantastic year
Speaker 4: this year as a rookie. It's just it's creat no, No,
Speaker 4: here's the thing is you can't. Here's the problem is
Speaker 4: you can't compare where they are now as rookies to
Speaker 4: what these prospects are. You have to go back and say,
Speaker 4: what did I think of these guys when they were
Speaker 4: coming out? And that's what I'm saying is there's none
Speaker 4: of these guys, in my opinion, that have the amount
Speaker 4: of years right when you're looking at like a Jaden Daniels,
Speaker 4: a bo Nix, of Michael Pennix, guys who went to
Speaker 4: multiple schools, played for five plus six years in some cases,
Speaker 4: there's no one that really fits that mold.
Speaker 3: Or in Caleb Williams, can you put a guy who
Speaker 3: was a very very rare talent like.
Speaker 4: When he burst on the scene at Oklahoma, you said, Okay,
Speaker 4: this guy's special, and you knew he would win a
Speaker 4: Heisman at some point or have the chance to win
Speaker 4: a Heisman at some point because of that. So that's
Speaker 4: where when I look at this class, it doesn't, at
Speaker 4: least based on what I saw in college, compare in
Speaker 4: that way. And so if you're picking number seven overall,
Speaker 4: I don't know how comfortably fill with that. And then
Speaker 4: you look at the free agent class, you're probably gonna
Speaker 4: either have Rogers cousins Darnold, but again, you're the Jets.
Speaker 3: You can't go with Rogers. He's one of your own.
Speaker 3: You're just you're releasing him.
Speaker 4: So you have to look at like who's out there,
Speaker 4: and it just unless you make a trade, unless something
Speaker 4: falls through with Matt Stafford, it just it feels like
Speaker 4: you're almost punting on twenty twenty five and trying to
Speaker 4: set yourself up with the cap savings, which if it's
Speaker 4: a post June one designation, it'll be like fourteen and
Speaker 4: a half million against the year's cap and the remainder
Speaker 4: of that would be against the twenty twenty six cap.
Speaker 4: So that's in essence what they're doing by moving on
Speaker 4: from Rogers. It's the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox
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Speaker 2: Coming up in a little over fifteen minutes from now,
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Speaker 2: But we also have an update when it comes to
Speaker 2: the draft coming up. We mentioned quarterback prospects that are
Speaker 2: out there. Maybe one of the most fascinating and most
Speaker 2: talented prospects in the draft Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3: Oh I thought he was going to say, I ab
Speaker 3: Dual Carter b Okay, We'll go with Travis.
Speaker 2: He will be a star at the combine and he
Speaker 2: will be a star as a defensive back at the combine.
Speaker 2: That is the latest that has come out on that,
Speaker 2: so we will not get to see him run any
Speaker 2: routes with the wide receivers just going to be out there.
Speaker 3: Do we know that for sure? I mean, have they
Speaker 3: stated that he can't just go do routes with the
Speaker 3: wide receivers. Why wouldn't you let him if you want?
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying is I don't think that they
Speaker 4: would prohibit him from doing that. Just saying that they're
Speaker 4: going to consider him and he's going to be at
Speaker 4: the defensive back group. That's probably more for just how
Speaker 4: he's going to go about the physical and mental testing
Speaker 4: and a lot of the weigh ins and everything else. Now,
Speaker 4: I would argue that he to me seems to fit
Speaker 4: everything of being a lockdown corner or a top cornerback
Speaker 4: in the league given what I've seen now. That doesn't
Speaker 4: mean he can't be an effective wide receiver, But I
Speaker 4: think just watching him, I think he's most naturally able
Speaker 4: to impact games as a cornerback first and then sprinkle
Speaker 4: him in on offense to provide depth there. I think
Speaker 4: if you couldn't really do it the other way around
Speaker 4: as easily, So I think that's what makes the most
Speaker 4: sense for him, at least at the NFL level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not going to be a two way player,
Speaker 2: like what a true way two way player represents, like
Speaker 2: what he did in college.
Speaker 5: That's just not going to happen. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 5: the reality of it. It would take a perfect storm,
Speaker 5: you know what it would take. It would take Deon
Speaker 5: Sanders coaching at the pro level for him to be
Speaker 5: a true two way player to get that opportunity. That's
Speaker 5: just not how it works. So the worst thing that
Speaker 5: could possibly happen to a Travis Hunter is he not
Speaker 5: settle into what his home position is. You can use
Speaker 5: him on the other side of the ball, but if
Speaker 5: you try to to like muddy those waters, I just
Speaker 5: don't think that that's good for his opportunities and his
Speaker 5: development to have true success at the next level. Like
Speaker 5: there's been some really really talented guys that have played
Speaker 5: both ways and and really have had the opportunity to
Speaker 5: play both ways at times at the pro level. But
Speaker 5: that's just not ideal. It's just not that's you know,
Speaker 5: to me, I think this is the right decision. I
Speaker 5: mean the first first time, the first thing I think
Speaker 5: about is like a guy like who was a kick
Speaker 5: returner that was amazing went into the Hester There you go, right,
Speaker 5: Devin Hester could have played pretty much any position skill
Speaker 5: wise on the football field. And it ultimately, if you
Speaker 5: ask me, he was able to get into the Hall.
Speaker 5: He was so extraordinary as as an athlete and as
Speaker 5: a player, he was able to get into the Hall
Speaker 5: of Fame. But it really kind of in a way
Speaker 5: did not allow for him to have the type of
Speaker 5: impact that he really could have had if he had
Speaker 5: just had a position.
Speaker 3: And I know people will sit there and be like, well,
Speaker 3: that's what it was meant for Da da da da. No,
Speaker 3: it really isn't.
Speaker 2: I can put him in there at times to run
Speaker 2: end and arounds and different things like that. But if
Speaker 2: that man can't really really settle into what you know,
Speaker 2: mastering the art of what it is he's doing at
Speaker 2: the position he's playing, I think you do that young man,
Speaker 2: a disservice by spriating thing like that.
Speaker 4: It is a great point as far as when there
Speaker 4: are players who are hard to put into a box
Speaker 4: as far as what they are, if a team when
Speaker 4: they draft them doesn't have a plan on how to
Speaker 4: use that player, and it could be a guy for example,
Speaker 4: we see a lot of times we call them move
Speaker 4: tight ends, the guys who are not your traditional put
Speaker 4: their head down in the dirt.
Speaker 3: Who are your traditional wide tight end.
Speaker 4: It's going to be blocking in the run game, maybe
Speaker 4: some pass pro two and probably going out some in
Speaker 4: the passing game, but they're not that like dynamic mismatch
Speaker 4: type player.
Speaker 3: So you find this other guy who, yeah, he's probably
Speaker 3: on the back.
Speaker 4: Side of the run, you know, being cut off, or
Speaker 4: maybe he's blocking more down in the secondary, but he's
Speaker 4: split out at times as a wide receiver, or he's
Speaker 4: in the backfield maybe off the ball as more of
Speaker 4: a fullback type. Sometimes teams end up kind of losing
Speaker 4: sight of the skills of that player. And it could
Speaker 4: be the offensive system, it could be a lot of things,
Speaker 4: but they end up not really finding that role or
Speaker 4: understanding how to utilize that talent the skill as best
Speaker 4: as possible. And I'd say the other thing for Travis Hunter,
Speaker 4: and the reason why I would put him at cornerback
Speaker 4: as opposed to wide receiver is as far as his
Speaker 4: long term projection for his career, because I do think
Speaker 4: he's a supremely talented individual. I think he's his best
Speaker 4: path to a gold jacket is on defense, and this
Speaker 4: is why you have so many less variables to impact
Speaker 4: your play as a cornerback versus wide receiver. All right,
Speaker 4: So again let's go back to the initial comment. You've
Speaker 4: got an offensive system to deal with. You could have
Speaker 4: a crappy offensive system where you have a bad play
Speaker 4: caller or maybe a young play callers inexperienced. That's going
Speaker 4: to impact then how they go about getting you the football.
Speaker 4: You could have a poor offensive line that obviously plays
Speaker 4: an impact on how you go about.
Speaker 3: Getting the football.
Speaker 4: You could have core quarterback play that's also going to
Speaker 4: impact how you go about getting the football. So right,
Speaker 4: there are three ways in which your play is immediately
Speaker 4: going to be impacted. And as a quarterback, if you're
Speaker 4: a man and man coverage, if you've got skills like him,
Speaker 4: the speed, the you know, the ability, the agility to
Speaker 4: and obviously the football IQ to pattern match understand all
Speaker 4: those things and understand splits and and kind of the
Speaker 4: tendencies of guys. And you can be physical with a
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, like you can lock down your guy. Now,
Speaker 4: that's not saying that you can't be put in a
Speaker 4: bad position from time to time by your defensive coordinator
Speaker 4: or some of the calls, or you know, maybe there's
Speaker 4: a different zone coverage or different combo coverages where something
Speaker 4: gets messed up. But for the most part, like you
Speaker 4: do your job like you're on your way to being
Speaker 4: a potential Hall of Fame player, and that's.
Speaker 5: What should matter, right, being the best player that you
Speaker 5: can be at the position that you play. You could
Speaker 5: have the capabilities. I mean, most guys have played both
Speaker 5: ways at some point in time in their career if
Speaker 5: they were really truly gifted and talented. But I think
Speaker 5: what you just said, your last point is what to
Speaker 5: me is most relevant. You want to go into a
Speaker 5: scenario where you have the opportunity to have the type
Speaker 5: of success at the position that you play where you
Speaker 5: impact your team, you impact your career in a way
Speaker 5: where you're remembered for the greatness that you brought to
Speaker 5: the table. And I think that that would be almost
Speaker 5: impossible to do if you were a true two way player.
Speaker 5: I just think it's impossible, Like I mean, anything is possible,
Speaker 5: but I think that's as close. That's one of those things.
Speaker 5: It's as close to impossible as it gets to literally
Speaker 5: use him. If we were to take the amount of plays,
Speaker 5: the plays that he did at Colorado and those or
Speaker 5: plays that the amount that he does, that's his workload
Speaker 5: in the in the league. He might be done in
Speaker 5: the league in two three years.
Speaker 2: See, when Devin Hester was at Miami, he was a
Speaker 2: dB and you know, played sparingly there, but then you know,
Speaker 2: he was really a returner and that's where he got drafted.
Speaker 2: Then he became a star as a returner in the NFL.
Speaker 2: And then the Bears to kind of justify, you know,
Speaker 2: the contract and wanting to get the ball in his
Speaker 2: hands more, they threw him at wide receiver and he
Speaker 2: had a little bit of success. His numbers weren't terrible,
Speaker 2: but he wasn't a true wide receiver. If you're Travis Hunter, like,
Speaker 2: that's got to be an enticing prospect. Though, if you
Speaker 2: are an offensive coordinator, like, say he ends up in Cleveland,
Speaker 2: like you mean Kevin Stefanski's not like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: let's try him a few plays a game, Like, I
Speaker 2: don't know that they would want to pass on the
Speaker 2: opportunity to potentially get the ball in this guy's hands.
Speaker 2: If he's that talented, it wouldn't be that he would
Speaker 2: do a full split like.
Speaker 3: He would in college.
Speaker 2: But it just feels like there's going to be some
Speaker 2: guys out there that look at him and go, listen,
Speaker 2: we know he's a great defensive back, but wouldn't you
Speaker 2: want to just from entertainment standpoint, like I would love
Speaker 2: to see him get a few snaps on offense every
Speaker 2: single game, like, and I don't know, and I don't
Speaker 2: have a.
Speaker 3: Problem with him. Yeah, I don't think there's any problem
Speaker 3: with that.
Speaker 4: Here's here's the biggest issue with that though, is if
Speaker 4: he's on the field, you're assuming he's gonna be getting
Speaker 4: the football because you're not gonna waste snaps of him
Speaker 4: or reps of him being on the field and you're
Speaker 4: not gonna target him or try to get him the
Speaker 4: ball in the reverse or a fly sweep or something
Speaker 4: like you know, wide receiver screen, something that gets in
Speaker 4: his hands quick, or take a shot down field.
Speaker 3: So that's part of the issue.
Speaker 4: Is how do you go about disguising that when he
Speaker 4: is in the game, he's not going to be the
Speaker 4: intended target or it's not gonna be a guaranteed touch,
Speaker 4: which is again when you start looking at snap counts,
Speaker 4: how you can get a guy who's you know, playing
Speaker 4: a bunch of snaps in college and then through a
Speaker 4: bunch of snaps of the NFL in seventeen games, potentially
Speaker 4: eighteen games. You know, as we realistically have to look
Speaker 4: at that being the reality of the NFL in the future,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be really hard to try to manage that
Speaker 4: and say this, this guy's be playing over one hundred
Speaker 4: and some snaps depending on how much you play him
Speaker 4: on offense as.
Speaker 3: Well as defense. Does he need to go to the combine?
Speaker 3: Does he need to be there? Yes? Do you think so?
Speaker 2: I don't think he does. It's a networking it's a
Speaker 2: networking opportunity.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, what are you saying you need to test?
Speaker 3: He say no. If you're saying does he need to test, no,
Speaker 3: but he needs to be there to talk to people.
Speaker 2: I asked the question because if he's going to the combine,
Speaker 2: it's for entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 3: Like so, if that's the case, I'm sure.
Speaker 5: Can you specify if he's performing at the combine it's
Speaker 5: purely for entertainment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no need for him to be there.
Speaker 4: That's like like talk to people, Okay, Okay, Yeah, here's
Speaker 4: you have to understand there is a need for him
Speaker 4: to be there from a interview and medical standpoint.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 4: As far as if he's going to actually do drills,
Speaker 4: do testing, that's entertaining, that's that's entertaining. But like the
Speaker 4: true origin of or I guess genesis of why the
Speaker 4: combine was created was for medical and correct because of
Speaker 4: what you know, that's why he needs to be there.
Speaker 3: That's why he has to go. But as far as
Speaker 3: testing and everything else, no, that's all just for TV stuff.
Speaker 2: So they'll bring players like they'll bring like leaders of
Speaker 2: their locker room players on the team, and they will
Speaker 2: sit in on the meetings. They're judging and weighing, measuring
Speaker 2: if this guy will integrate into our locker room correctly,
Speaker 2: how does he fit in terms of our culture. That
Speaker 2: really has been honestly a major maybe underline or behind
Speaker 2: the scenes teale of the tape for a lot of
Speaker 2: prospects that are high guys high on the list of
Speaker 2: guys you will want to take, and you're like, how
Speaker 2: did that guy slip to this number. It's not because
Speaker 2: anything that had to do with him on the field
Speaker 2: and his talent. I'm sure they would love for him
Speaker 2: to participate in the wide receiver drills as well, Like
Speaker 2: just from an enter just if it's about you know,
Speaker 2: listen the medicals clear. You know he passes his test,
Speaker 2: all that's good. Yeah, we'd love to see him in
Speaker 2: that grouping. The kid has built a very very intriguing,
Speaker 2: strong brand, I mean from the controversies of his personal life,
Speaker 2: which I always felt was a tad bit inappropriate.
Speaker 5: But you know, these days there's nothing well you know what,
Speaker 5: don't You're not going to drag me into it. I've
Speaker 5: not gotten involved in it since it's happened. I'm that
Speaker 5: man's personal business is his personal business, I would. I
Speaker 5: would ultimately say though, a lot of that the co
Speaker 5: mingling of an athlete of figures such as him who
Speaker 5: has accomplished at the level he's accomplished and won the
Speaker 5: Heisman Trophy. I mean, he is the most decorator or
Speaker 5: most well known of all the players this year, even
Speaker 5: impossible recent history. The kid has handled things in a
Speaker 5: way where I feel like he's been everything you would
Speaker 5: want a guy to be.
Speaker 3: You know, he's catching heat.
Speaker 5: For being a good dude to a to a woman,
Speaker 5: to his girlfriend, like you're catching heat that like they're
Speaker 5: attacking her and he's he's having to handle all of
Speaker 5: that and shoulder all of that, and I felt like
Speaker 5: he did a great job of it. He created his
Speaker 5: own podcast. There is a lot of equity that has
Speaker 5: been built up in his brand. So if that you
Speaker 5: see him, of course, it's going to bring more attention
Speaker 5: to what's going on. If they're saying, oh, Travis Hunter
Speaker 5: decides that he's going to go over with the receivers
Speaker 5: and do wide receiver drills, of course that's going to
Speaker 5: bring more eyeballs and more attention to what's going on
Speaker 5: at the draft, at the combine.
Speaker 2: Whatever's happening in his relationship, his personal life, I'm not
Speaker 2: familiar with. It.
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Speaker 4: Combines are combines. Yeah, I know, so you did there
Speaker 4: talking about the NFL combine. You got to the combines.
Speaker 3: It's nice. Nice He's kind of slipped it in there. Well,
Speaker 3: it worked out well.
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Speaker 7: Lap Good Good morning, everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning Brady,
Speaker 7: Good morning LeVar.
Speaker 3: Guys. In case you missed it, it's OFT Daily. Hey Brady,
Speaker 3: good to see you, buddy. Guys, in case you missed it.
Speaker 7: You often hear about running backs and quarterbacks gifting their
Speaker 7: offensive lineman something for Christmas, sometimes tricked out golf cart,
Speaker 7: something of the sorts. Well, after the Super Bowl win,
Speaker 7: Saquon Barkley's decided to give to his offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: Each a truckload of bud Light. Yeah, ahead of their
Speaker 3: parade that's going on today. You'll probably see all fight to.
Speaker 4: Pick a different beer. But no, it's a yeah, that
Speaker 4: is as cool a gift as he kids. Man, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Man, that is something. What a what a big spender
Speaker 2: that guy is for that thirteen million?
Speaker 3: He gets a year? Geez, what's next?
Speaker 1: A dog? Come on?
Speaker 3: What's that? A dollar tree gift card? That'll be ten dollars?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: Are you for real? That'll be ten dollars? Bro Jonas,
Speaker 3: how does that upset you? I mean, you're as cheap
Speaker 3: as it gets. What beer? Ridiculous it should have been.
Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna have an issue with it
Speaker 4: being bud Light versus like some I p a that
Speaker 4: like you like you're kind of hipster?
Speaker 3: Which is the one that that can't rock? Didn't like?
Speaker 3: Oh well he did like bud Light. It was bud Light?
Speaker 3: Is that one just load? Is that the one rock?
Speaker 3: Was that the one that when he went outside and
Speaker 3: he's him yeah, yeah, okay, hey my guy, Shane Gillis.
Speaker 3: I mean so it's a good bounce back, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, now you've put Saquon out there, bought the
Speaker 3: truck there you go boom light.
Speaker 2: Truck load of bud light guarantee. That's attacks right off. Wait,
Speaker 2: dang Jonas, all.
Speaker 3: Right, damn Penn steak. Guys man, all right, what you
Speaker 3: got lee? Moving on? Well, guys. In case you missed this.
Speaker 7: In a joint interview with people, Tyreek Hill and Noah
Speaker 7: Lyles said they have agreed to race each other, though
Speaker 7: that they haven't given a date, location, or distance for
Speaker 7: the race yet.
Speaker 3: Oh no, sweet leg I was just gonna say, this
Speaker 3: is not good, not good, not good. I mean, think
Speaker 3: about this.
Speaker 4: Do you remember when that track athlete at Iowa ran
Speaker 4: a forty yard dash in the stadium in Kinnick and
Speaker 4: it ran like a four to.
Speaker 3: One five what it was?
Speaker 4: It's like, dude, no disrespect to that young man. He's
Speaker 4: he could be fantastic. Noel Lyles has been the fastest
Speaker 4: man in the world at times. I would imagine at
Speaker 4: least one hundred meters like I would imagine Noel Lyles
Speaker 4: be able to put up a very similar for to
Speaker 4: one or gosh like the four point zero whatever.
Speaker 3: Potentially is that overstanding that LeVar I couldn't hear you?
Speaker 3: Just then say it one more time.
Speaker 4: No I'm saying that like four point one maybe even
Speaker 4: under that is that possible for Noelliles.
Speaker 5: It's possible. It's possible that that. I don't know that
Speaker 5: we better. I recalled, like didn't you saying Bolt run
Speaker 5: like a crazy time and like his street clothes. He
Speaker 5: just walked in, ran a forty yard dash and it
Speaker 5: was like something crazy crazy crazy low.
Speaker 3: So four to two to two okay?
Speaker 2: That I mean, I think if they really wanted to,
Speaker 2: they could probably break the four second barrier.
Speaker 3: I really do think they.
Speaker 2: That guy at Iowa was Kayln Walker and he was running.
Speaker 3: I got to do a little bit of research on this.
Speaker 3: Is that up top that thing? We're taking over the
Speaker 3: dB position with speed? I mean, y'all had a ball
Speaker 3: or in the Super Bowl. He put six up for y'all.
Speaker 2: He got some Super Bowl MVP votes as well. He
Speaker 2: should Yeah there you go throw it up, damn right?
Speaker 3: Jonas Hell Yeah yeah, yeah, you sell out. Oh she
Speaker 3: was a wrestler.
Speaker 7: What else guys in free agency news? Uh, Scott Hansen
Speaker 7: is done with his deal with the NFL media. Obviously
Speaker 7: the host of the Red Zone, He's now in talks
Speaker 7: with NBC to be covering the NFL and the Olympics.
Speaker 3: That's a good dude. So are they going to have
Speaker 3: Ceciliano do the red zone? It is possible. He did
Speaker 3: a good job. That is a possibility, by the way,
Speaker 3: former Fox Sports Radio alum. Yeah, point it out, you know.
Speaker 3: Oh there you go, grass so far.
Speaker 2: Hey, well, I turned my attention to other matters. Hey,
Speaker 2: what were you shooting at on the TV?