1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: The World's a Vegetal Podcasts. 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. First time all year. They got 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: me into a negative spot. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: What happened? 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Like I had sort of made a comment that you know, 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: it was little eye opening how much the whole team 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: sort of dipped alongside Drake May in the second half 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: of the Atlanta game, Concerned that there's too much on 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Drake May. Fulger immediately goes so Paul thinks they're putting 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: too much on Drake May. I'm like, that's not what 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: I said. 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: We have a guy now, who is the guy? 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: What? 16 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't come a superstar. We don't care for No, 17 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't care for all this national media. 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to victory lab but like, oh boy, 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 4: if you watch him in college. 20 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: You were as big of Aim as I was. Everybody 21 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: else sees it the way I do. 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 5: I love the hot dogs. If you give me a 23 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 5: hot dog with brown mustards our crowd. 24 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: Every days, No, no, just sour kraut and brown mustard. 25 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: He's now finger wagging you Christian. 26 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Something going on here. 27 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: Something's going on here selling the cheese. 28 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: I just asked what the fishiness would be. 29 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 2: They can change their mind based on Yeah. 30 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 4: But it's the it's the blowing like profusive priests. I'm sorry, 31 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 4: like these people that were thank you. 32 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: Sure. This is Patriot's Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. 33 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 6: For deals, buy a Toyota dot com. 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, but for football it's a Friday. For us, 36 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: it's still kind of a Tuesday. But tomorrow's Wednesday will 37 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: be like a Thursday. Yes, are you following me? It's 38 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: kind of a Wednesday a little bit. 39 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, today's Friday, Yeah, Friday or football it's Friday or Tuesday. 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. 41 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 5: For Evan, every day is all twenty two days. 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: He's football. 43 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, Evan, Paul me deuce And what do we owe 44 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 5: the pleasure? 45 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: Alex? 46 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. 47 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 5: The desk is here, okay, you figured you just sit. 48 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 6: There's a seat ready that the microphones ready, and then 49 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 6: we have the seats. 50 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 5: We don't have enough fo Okay, yeah. 51 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 7: All right, I've always wanted to Tuesday show. 52 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: There you go Tuesday show, a postgame show. 53 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 7: Evn't had me fired up today. We had a good 54 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 7: powow this morning. So I figured with Jerrie, well. 55 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 5: We've got a lot to talk about. 56 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: I missed out first and foremost, I have to make 57 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: my public apology for not picking the Patriots this week. 58 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: I sincerely regret my actions. You got to pick against 59 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: them once in. 60 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: A while, No, and I did. Fred walked in my 61 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: office about half hour ago, and you were a little down. Yeah, 62 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 1: And I was looking. I was like, what's the matter, 63 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: And I said, oh, I know you're you're a little 64 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: bit upset with yourself for not having faith in the boys. 65 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. 66 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 6: Did you pick a widespread thread in that game? 67 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: Was it? 68 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 2: I was like twenty nine twenty one or something like that. 69 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 6: That's your thing, Paul gonna it's gonna be a close game. 70 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: Just pick the Patriots, right, No, I mean I don't 71 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: always adhere to that. I picked a close game that 72 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: Tampa was going to lose. I mean Tampa was gonna win. 73 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: I said twenty to twenty. And Paul doesn't feel shame 74 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: about it. 75 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: But I love being wrong when I picked all year. 76 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: So now you let down the boys. 77 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, So or. 78 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: You gave them Bolton for the material. They're like like 79 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: our own guy. 80 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, isn't that the guy that comes in 81 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: every once in a while to give us morale boost 82 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: on Fridays? 83 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, he picked against us. 84 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: The morale boost guy. Here he comes again, even the 85 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: most guy that the guy morale's fine, frank Man who 86 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: is supposed to boost off. 87 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: But in all seriously, it was it was a weird game. 88 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, because you want it on X plays. 89 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: It was a good Evan would say. 90 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely want it on X plays. 91 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: But I think I think the defense won the day 92 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: on this one defense. You guys, would you agree. 93 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah they did. I mean that was just these 94 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 6: games are hard. I mean, it's a whole new defense. 95 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 6: It's a whole new style of quarterback you're watching. And 96 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 6: I think I've had a little bit of a learning 97 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 6: curve of accepting, you know, how it kind of goes. 98 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 6: And but I'm fully believing in this this defense now 99 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 6: in clutch situations and stopping the run. And you know, 100 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 6: Drake May it just continues to amaze and make throws 101 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 6: every week that just drop your jaw. And you know, 102 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 6: way back when whenever it made fun of me, like, oh, 103 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 6: it'll be fun, Like I didn't know for sure we 104 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 6: get to this point, But right now it's feeling pretty fun. 105 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 6: I'm not saying that I was right. 106 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: Whoa. We were lucky to get back to this point. 107 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 6: This is the most fun I've had and since I 108 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 6: got into this job. 109 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this was fun. 110 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 6: You know, even when I got in twenty nineteen. They 111 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 6: just come off a super Bowl, but the vibes were crap, 112 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 6: like you know, and you could feel it the whole 113 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 6: season long. And this is like, yeah, young quarterback, you 114 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 6: go in the locker room, everybody we've regained and you know, 115 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 6: I guess to agree, but to me, it just feels 116 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 6: so different right now of just the vibes around the team, 117 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 6: you know, when you just you've gotten rid of all 118 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 6: of Look, I don't want to make this to sound 119 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 6: the wrong way, like they did amazing things for twenty 120 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 6: years and one championships, but by the end, there was 121 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 6: a lot of baggage with that team and there, you know, 122 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 6: for various reasons, there were things that you know have 123 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 6: but there's always that like there's nothing at this particular moment. 124 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: Exciting. 125 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we're out of the shadow. 126 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 6: You know, I'm excited, and uh, you know, it's just 127 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 6: continuing to watch Drake get better every week. 128 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: That's what what what I'm hoping for. 129 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 6: And you know, I think the big line that thing 130 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 6: is right now, I'm just hoping the team's healthy. 131 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: There's a lot of injuries. 132 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: Austin Hooper miss you know. 133 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 6: You don't know it, says ramondra Stevenson limited cation booty 134 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 6: limited in a walkthrough. Does that mean that they would 135 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 6: have participated in a non one I don't know, So 136 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 6: I don't know exactly what on a short week, what 137 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 6: any of those health status is Terarell Jennings another one. 138 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: So that's what we'll you know, wait to see here 139 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: over the next couple of days. But otherwise, if. 140 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 6: They can just get through this game and get a 141 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 6: win and get to nine wins and have a weekend 142 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 6: off and maybe refocus. 143 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: A little bit, it's good. 144 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I know it's just I know it's just 145 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: one catch, but I I still can't get over how 146 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: quickly Kyle Williams got up to top speed. It's not 147 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: just a flat out speed, it's boom. It's like he 148 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: was shot out of a cannon. It happened so. 149 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 7: Fast, there's like a visible power surge. 150 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so that was amazing. 151 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: And then you know, having a running back who doesn't 152 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: get caught from behind on open runs. 153 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 6: It's just enough to look at the side. 154 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, I said it Sunday. I don't know 155 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: that I've ever seen that. It's a refreshing the sideline 156 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: for instruction. 157 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: And we haven't. 158 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 5: And we'll get into that. 159 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: Because Paul's School of clock Management, a lot of people 160 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 2: are asking in. Some of these are graduates from your school. 161 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: They still are confused, but they want to know if 162 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: he did the right thing or what they told him 163 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: to do was the right thing. And we can go 164 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: back and forth on. 165 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: Just so you know, there's a lot of uncertainty, not 166 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: on what what was right or wrong to do, but 167 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: on what he was being told to do. 168 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 6: Even he said it was kind of mixed. 169 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: I think he called him to get down, okay, but 170 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 4: I think so they would have had to call the 171 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: time out after that play. If you go sixty seven 172 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: yards instead of sixty nine, then that burns their second 173 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: time out, and then you could just kneel it out. 174 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: Right correct, right, So if you kneeled it down, the 175 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: game would have been over. Yeah, Now, it would have. 176 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: Helped if the defense didn't give up a touchdown driving 177 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: thirty second. 178 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: And I'm also you know that, and I said this 179 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: live while it happened with Mike and you guys know 180 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: that I tend to glom onto those stupid minutia kind. 181 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: Of it's good because it's a blind spot for me. 182 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: But I would not kill a kid for running sixty 183 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: whatever yards what was it sixty nine yards? 184 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: Yet? 185 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 8: Nice? 186 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: Nice for a touchdown to put the game away. Like, 187 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit there and say, like if 188 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: if they had allowed the on side kick to get 189 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: recovered in another touchdown, I would not hang that loss 190 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: on Trevion Henderson from running into the end zone. You know, 191 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. Yes, if he kneels down, 192 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: game's over, but games should be over either way. 193 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's the biggest thing I see. 194 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: And the stats are starting to back it up, Like 195 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 4: you see the method to the madness with the way 196 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: they're playing defense. The early down zones, the X plays 197 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 4: fred or are coming way down over the last month 198 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: or so, so they're not giving up as many chunk 199 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: plays on defense, and then once they get into third down. 200 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: They're fitth in the league right now on third down. 201 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: So once they get into third down, that's when the 202 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: band coverage comes out. That's when the aggressiveness comes out, 203 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 4: and they're getting off the field. 204 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: So you see the bend don't break ness. 205 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: But it's kind of interesting because it's like they don't 206 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 4: break they get to the other side of the fifty, 207 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 4: and then at like the forty they stall out out 208 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: the opponent because once they get in the red zone, 209 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: everybody's scoring on it in the red zone. 210 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: So it's really not like right, it's weird. 211 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: They are probably the best like fifty to thirty field 212 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: position defense in football, and they're the worst red zone defense. 213 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 4: It's very bizarre, and I get how it's frustrating this 214 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: and after further review to watch them give up some 215 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: of those like outs and hitches and things underneath these 216 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: soft zone coverages that it looks it looks too easy, 217 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 4: like it looks like this is there's no resistance, but 218 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: there is a method to it where they're getting the 219 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 4: they stop the run. So they are good. They're good 220 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: run defense. Uh, they're getting much better at limiting explosive plays, 221 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 4: and they're good third down defense. So when you combine 222 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 4: those three factors with a high powered offense, you get 223 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: a seven game winning streak like that. That's a nice 224 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: formula to have in today's NFL. You know, if you're looking. 225 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: For this everything away something you said there, Yeah, is 226 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: it a high powered offense at this point. 227 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're top ten and pretty much everything. Yeah, they're 228 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: they're one of the Yeah, they're one of the most 229 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: explosive off the league. Oh, they're just averaging like twenty 230 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: seven points a game. 231 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: Well, does that include you know, the easy the defensive 232 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: scores or special teams scol or all that stuff when. 233 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 4: They I mean outside of Marcus Jones's punt returns, they 234 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: don't really have very many and Gibson's kick off return. 235 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you sound skeptical. 236 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: I mean they didn't. We We've said on this show 237 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: that usually they're in the low twenties low you know. 238 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, without the other stuff. But I but that's their 239 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: offense is top whatever. The number is ten seven, like, yeah, 240 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: I can only go by with the rest of the league. 241 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, there are ten points eighthan yards. 242 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, points, you said. 243 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 2: Mike. 244 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 7: All the deep balls Drake May is throwing this year. 245 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 7: It feels like every game there's like two or three. 246 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't know, if you know, high powered, 247 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, like if I think it's all up 248 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: to you know, the descriptions you want to use. But 249 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,239 Speaker 1: they're top ten. They haven't almost. 250 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: They are a difficult offense to defend well that I 251 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 4: would agree with, and they're an explosive play machine on offense. 252 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 5: On Sunday, I think they had a little bit of 253 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 5: a down day, you know. 254 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 4: I think if they had played like this, I don't know, 255 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 4: like if you if you if this was how They've 256 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 4: won it in all different ways at this point, right, 257 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: So like some games are just going to kind of 258 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 4: go differently than others. You know, it's a good defense 259 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 4: that Bucks have. 260 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 2: It. 261 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 4: You're not a defense that you're going to string plays 262 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 4: against on a consistent basis. So when you hit, you know, 263 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 4: three fifty plus yard chunks on a defense like that, 264 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 4: it's hard to say that they if I'm. 265 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 5: Like that, who calls the plays for the Bucks on offense? 266 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 4: On offense? Jonathan Grenard is his name? 267 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 5: Okay, I don't know. 268 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: First I was a fan, I'd be pissed at him 269 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 2: this week because I think I'm sorry, I'm sorry I 270 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: got this the other way around. Who calls the defensive 271 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: that Todd Bowles? Okay, I'm I'd be mad at him 272 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: because I think I thought that there were times where 273 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: he was aggressive where he didn't need to be, and 274 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: I think they paid for that. 275 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: I liked his plan, I didn't like his decision to 276 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: sit out his best player periodically, like Jamel Dean's on 277 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: the sideline while someone's getting their varsity letter and getting 278 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: torch with seventy to the. 279 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 6: Weird moment in the game, said he really wanted to 280 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 6: rotate his best player. 281 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: And in fairness to Todd Bowles, that doesn't make sense 282 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: to me. I think there's more to the story. Something 283 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: either happened to jim El Dean or something that doesn't 284 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: seem like the right story. I actually thought makes sense 285 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: to you, like you're gonna rotate corners? 286 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 4: I mean no, but like I actually thought their planned 287 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 4: defensively it was pretty good. 288 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: I agree. I thought they did a good job. And 289 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,359 Speaker 1: they kind of backed off. 290 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: With the Blitzes, knowing how good Drake may has been 291 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 4: against the blitz and they ran more drop eight coverages 292 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 4: than they've ever really run. Now, they were kind of 293 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: seven man coverages with a spy, so it's up for interpretation. 294 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: But on third down. 295 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 4: They were really only truly rushing three guys, and then 296 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 4: they had one of the four guys in the pass 297 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 4: rush was a spy on Drake May So I think 298 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: the Patriots were expecting a little bit more blitz and 299 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 4: they didn't get it as much as they probably were anticipating. 300 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: The only blitzed about twenty seven percent of the time. 301 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: Their blitz rates usually up around thirty five percent of 302 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 4: the time, so I thought they had a decent plan 303 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 4: in this game. They just gave up three monster chunks. 304 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: It wasn't even like they gave up twenty five yard place. 305 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 4: They gave up a seventy yarder and seventy two yarder. 306 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: Like the Kyle Williams one after he beat his man, 307 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: there was no one. 308 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: Well the guy goes for the pick. This is that's 309 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: the guy I'm talking about, Like he cuts under me inexplicably. 310 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 5: But there was no shell, There was no there was 311 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 5: no one deep well. 312 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 4: Because because Matt Collins took the safety like Yankee concept, 313 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: fred have the deep crossers and Drake may is just 314 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 4: throwing to the one on one, just an unreal throw, 315 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: like the end zone is perfect, and the end zone 316 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: angle makes it look even better, like really because yes, yes, yeah, 317 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 4: it almost looked no, and I know it wasn't a 318 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: no look, but his body was kind of going this 319 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 4: way and his arm angle was the other way. 320 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: And listening to d the one AFC Championship game in 321 00:13:59,080 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was. 322 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 9: Right on the Yeah, by the letter of the law, 323 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 9: you don't want to throw the ball like that, you know, 324 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 9: like you you want the throwing hallway. 325 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: So's his front foot, his hip and his shoulders to 326 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: be pointed at the target. 327 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: But he's so freaking good that he. 328 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: Doesn't need to do it, like and I just keep 329 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: on like seeing that with him is just he makes 330 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 4: some throws, especially under pressure, that the mechanics of it's 331 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: kind of like Mahomes like it's like this is broken, like. 332 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: You should not work. 333 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: And the way that he can still throw with accuracy 334 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: in those situations, I mean you, the ball is literally 335 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: in an absolutely perfect spot to Kyle Williams. If that's 336 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 4: a little bit behind him, then Morrison probably undercuts it 337 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: and picks it off and he just laid it out 338 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: just perfectly right in front of him on that play. 339 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 4: So watching it live, he didn't really didn't really do 340 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 4: the throw justice. I feel like you have to watch 341 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: the end zone angle and see just how ridiculous of 342 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 4: a bullet that is. 343 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 6: I'll kind I think it was third down to Hollins 344 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 6: where he like ducks a guy. It's like, I don't 345 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 6: even know how he got the ball off, like, it's 346 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 6: just I think that's another testament to him in his 347 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 6: development of not. 348 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: Having a big woosh. 349 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 6: I mean, he's staying tight, getting the ball out quick. 350 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 6: It's just it's cool to watch every week this kid 351 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 6: makes throat. 352 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: But I do agree with Evan on the defense for 353 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: the Bucks, and I know it's one of those like well, 354 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: other than that, you know, what do you think of 355 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: the play, missus Lincoln. I mean, you can't allow those 356 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: those plays. And I would add the bomb to Hollins 357 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: in there too, like the last one. I would sort 358 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: of excuse like you're desperately trying to stop the runs 359 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: and call up for a second. Popped it out. He's yeah, 360 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: he popped it. There was no one there to make 361 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: a tackle. But the other stuff is inexcusable, Like undercutting 362 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: that route like that is fine if you do what 363 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: Evan said and you want to cut it and pick 364 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: it off. If you don't, there's nobody there to make 365 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: a tackle, and you're not in position to make a tackle. 366 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: So that's going to end up being a touchdown and 367 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: you can't do that. But I thought there were more 368 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: passes defensed in this game against the Patriots that I 369 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: can remember. Like you look at Brake steps in throws 370 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: on a third down and there's a guy diving to 371 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: knock the ball away from Diggs or Henry or Hollins. 372 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: They you know, really good tackle on Hollins on the 373 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: play where he sort of jumped in the air and 374 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: came back. He was beyond the first down, but by 375 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: the time he came down he was he was down 376 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: and he's a big guy to stop for like no 377 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: additional yards after that, you know. So I thought that 378 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: the Bucks had a good plan really kind of held 379 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: him to twenty one points until there's a minute and 380 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: a half left and a guy goes seventy yards. You 381 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: see that a lot. 382 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: I remember Jonathan Taylor in twenty one against St. Patriots 383 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: when you're you're basically in goal line defense at that point. 384 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 4: So if it breaks like it's there's no right and 385 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: then they. 386 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: Didn't chase him because they wanted him to score. Yeah 387 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: that could have been. It did kind of chase him. 388 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: It just wasn't It wasn't going to catch him once 389 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: I got down to like the twenty yard line, you know, 390 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: like the first one Winfield like dolve and tripped him 391 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: up at the Yeah, well yeah, this one really get in. 392 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: From the end zone shot, you know with Henderson going 393 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 2: towards the camera. How many people were on the ground 394 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: for Tampa Bay on that play? 395 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: It was because it was like that's what I mean, 396 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: Like I think Evans Evans comparison to that Jonathan Taylor 397 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: running twenty one is spot off at that because that's 398 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: just you're just totally selling out your because you have to. 399 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: You have to tackle them like immediately and call time out. 400 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: Everything has to be perfect. So once he scorched through, 401 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: it's a game set man. Happens a lot. 402 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 6: Like I feel like I'm always alert for those now 403 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 6: on the really short yard is You're like, don't miss 404 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 6: the tackle here, you know, or get faked out. 405 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes we got the right play call in the guy. 406 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: It was weird because it was a second down, a 407 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: second and nine I would have thrown. I said to Mike, 408 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: this is a great down to throw all. 409 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 10: That. 410 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 411 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 4: I tweeted it during the game that the tosses had 412 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 4: kind of stopped working, and I was like, how many 413 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: more of these are we gonna call? 414 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: It's like, that's a good Josh McDaniels, Mike, Mike showed 415 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: me you know why you great next gen charge and 416 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: it's like nothing nothing nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing nothing nothing, touchdown, touchdown. Yeah. 417 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 6: I thought you did a good job Evan in your 418 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 6: in your right up kind of because I think we 419 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 6: were all frustrated with some of the toss plays and 420 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 6: you know, to your point when you wrote about it, 421 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 6: sticking with it and you know not, I mean. 422 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: I think all of us we had callers afterwards. 423 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 6: We talked about in the postgame show, like it's just 424 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 6: it can be maddening, and there's it's an easy crutch 425 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 6: to be like. 426 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: Oh, the offensive coordinator, what's you doing calling those runs? 427 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: But it seems like it did pay dividends. 428 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 429 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: I think that's the biggest thing is they are keeping 430 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 4: their traditional dropbacks per game down because McDaniels is committed 431 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 4: to the run game and and doesn't you know there, 432 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 4: you could have very easily after the way they were 433 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 4: running the ball early on in that game, abandoned the 434 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 4: run at halftime and gone and then Drake made his 435 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 4: drop and back fifty five times against a good pass defense. 436 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: And instead they stake committed and they build all their 437 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 4: play actions and all their deep shots off of the 438 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 4: run game as well. I mean, like they get these 439 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 4: single high safety coverages all the time now because they're 440 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 4: just putting the quarterback under center and the full back 441 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 4: or two tight ends or whatever, and these teams are 442 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: loading the box and he's throwing bombs. So if you 443 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 4: like the bombs and you like the boots, and you 444 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 4: like the play actions, like you can't do that if 445 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: you're not going to run the ball. And it's not 446 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 4: about volume, it's about showing them the actions. You know, 447 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 4: we're gonna pull the guard, we're gonna lead the full back, 448 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 4: we're gonna do these different things. You can't run a 449 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: boot if you don't run the outside zone to set 450 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 4: up the boot. So like all these things are all connected, 451 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 4: and yeah, they might run into a brick wall for 452 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 4: two quarters, but then eventually you break one and there 453 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 4: you go. 454 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 11: No. 455 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 5: I mean, if you have faith in your defense, you 456 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 5: can do that. 457 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: You know you can. 458 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: And the quarterback down when the quarterbacks in third and seven, 459 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 4: thirty and eight and it's not over like that obviously 460 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: helps a lot too to be able to get out 461 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 4: of those situations. So I thought that, you know, that 462 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 4: was that is kind of the hallmark of their offense 463 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: right now is how balanced they are. And it's not 464 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 4: necessarily that they're this great running team. Actually their stats 465 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 4: are pretty poor as a rushing offense. But the fact 466 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 4: that they run it enough to have balance in terms 467 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 4: of the play calling has been really big for them 468 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: because then that just allows Drake to just big, big 469 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: play hunt when he does drop back and he doesn't 470 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: have to drop back fifty times, you know, he's only 471 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: dropping back around I think it's like thirty five or 472 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 4: thirty six times a game. So they're able to manage 473 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: it that way, whereas like other teams that kind of 474 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 4: abandoned it. They have their quarterbacks dropping back forty plus 475 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: times a game. It's asking a lot, it's asking a 476 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 4: lot of the quarterback. It's asking a lot of the 477 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 4: offensive line, so it kind of protects all of that. 478 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: So the Patriots are expanding their lead on the AFC East. 479 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: I wrote, the Patriots run the East right now. Patriots 480 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 2: run the East. 481 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: They got it right now. I mean they control it. 482 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: They don't have to worry about other things now. 483 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 2: They don't have to worry about windows closing. 484 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 6: No, what's saying Buffalo has got a tough schedule down 485 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 6: the stretch. I mean the Patriots got an easy one. 486 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 6: Buffalo's got to play some tough games. 487 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 5: Oh, they have to play the Patriots. 488 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: I mean I think those are I mean they got Tampa, 489 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: Patriots in Philly, and the Patriots have Buffalo and Baltimore. 490 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: So like to me, it's the Patriots have it right 491 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: in front of them. And the element of the loss 492 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: for Buffalo this week, I don't everybody wanted to fixate 493 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: on tiebreakers, which I think they're missing. The important thing. 494 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: The tiebreaker that they gained on Sunday was then losing. 495 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: Buffalo lost to Miami. That's a division game, right so 496 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: now if you lose the game, now, obviously, if the 497 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: Patriots win, who cares tie breakers? You're going to be ahead. 498 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: But if the Patriots lose the game and now you 499 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: split one one, you still have that one game buffer 500 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: with the division record. No one mentioned that Tony Romo 501 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: was infatuated with calling it a two game lead, like 502 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: it's not like, but the big thing is they now 503 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: have the edge because assuming the Patriots can take care 504 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: of business against Miami in the two games against the Jets, 505 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: that'd make you at worst five and one in the division. 506 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: The best of the Bills can do is four and two. 507 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: Yep. 508 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: So if you tie, that's the tie break. 509 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: That's the first tie breaker, I mean head to head first, 510 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: but then it would be division records. 511 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: So losing was bad enough for Buffalo, but losing to 512 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: a division team is enormous. They might mean Buffalo big 513 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: edge for the Patriots. 514 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 6: Buffalo might get the Bengals with Burrow back, and they 515 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 6: got to go to the Texas too. 516 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: It's the defense. I mean, I'm not saying that are 517 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: the same because well, they can't stop anybody Bengals, right, 518 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: and that was the I mean, you can't score any 519 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: more points than Joe Flacco scored the last few weeks 520 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: when they lose. 521 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 2: Right, Like people like, oh waitill they get Burrow. They 522 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: were scoring forty points a game they lost. 523 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: They lost thirty nine, thirty eight and forty something like 524 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: what are they lose to the Bears is like forty 525 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: five thirty seven? You know, forty seven one there, both 526 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: in the forties. So you can't like, Joe Burrow is 527 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: not going to be able to fix that. As much 528 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: as I love Joe Burrow, he can't go out and 529 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: play defense. 530 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 5: Yeah the point lots of good emails coming in here, Darius. 531 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 8: Uh. 532 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: He says all of your analysis suck, and then he 533 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: has a smile of mode. Just kidding, but seriously, stop 534 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: picking against us. We are good and we will get better. 535 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: Go Patriots. Ps. We still haven't played our best complete game, 536 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: so we'll be just fine come playoff time. 537 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: Very optimate. Yeah, it's all coming together. 538 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: And the other thing we need to talk about is 539 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 2: the Patriots representation at the game. I mean there were 540 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: a lot of Patriots fans. 541 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 4: At least, yeah, I'd say somewhere around there. I mean, 542 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: he was getting MVP chants on the run. 543 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: You could hear, you could hear reactions to like so 544 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: humble he was. I think those are for bab Yeah, 545 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: a job Matt Collins and they're canting m v P 546 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: but it's Bakers. 547 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 5: Well, it was funny because you got to match that. 548 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: Drake got the m v P chance, and then when 549 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: he threw the interception, the Bucks fans started to mockingly 550 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: do an m v P chance. And then when the 551 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: Patriots sealed it and Van started started up again, Collins was, Oh. 552 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, great throw. 553 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 6: It's funny though, because I feel like the the Drake 554 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 6: of it all is bringing to head again like the 555 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 6: old m VP discussion of like is he the guy 556 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 6: kind of doing it all himself and he doesn't really 557 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 6: have much and he's just playing amazing, or is it 558 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 6: the best player on the best team. You know, Like, 559 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 6: because the best player on the best team, I probably 560 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 6: would still lean towards Matthew Stafford or Sam Darnold, you know, 561 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 6: maybe Jonathan Taylor, but then you know, but Drake, I 562 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 6: would say, if you want to talk about a real 563 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 6: m v P kind of doing it all himself, I 564 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 6: think you would have Drake. 565 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: Well, if the. 566 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: Voters, like last year, they've Josh Allen won the m 567 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: v HE because of that argument, Like they thought that 568 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: Lamar's supporting cast was better because he had Derrick Henry, 569 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 4: and he had a good defense and like all these 570 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 4: other things. So if their voters are consistent with the 571 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 4: way that they're voting. 572 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 6: That's true, then I JSN and Seattle you have I 573 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 6: mean Pooka. 574 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: And and I made this argument just now with Fred 575 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: and Mad in the office. I said the same thing. 576 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: You know Stafford has Pooka. You know Jonathan Taylor has 577 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones And I know you'll mocked Daniel Jhoneson's he's 578 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: leading the league like he's having a great year. And again, 579 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: I'll say this again, Jonathan Taylor has been a Colt 580 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: the last three years. He hasn't done this. 581 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 2: Right. 582 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: They haven't been able to win games. He's been there. 583 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: Now they have a quarterback and he's able to win 584 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: some games so great that even running back the NBA, 585 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: there's no way. There's no way. But I'm just saying, 586 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: if the offensive player of the year, if you're comparing 587 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: these things, yeah, Drake does not have a weapon that's 588 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: of the caliber of Pooka Nakula or Jonathan Taylor or 589 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: Jason Smith JSN. 590 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: It's just yeah, is McDaniel's a shoeing for assistant coach 591 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: of the Year. 592 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be nominated for sure. 593 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 5: I mean it's really I'm not familiar with every. 594 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 4: Question, really really, like right now, the three hottest play 595 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 4: callers in the league are Stiking Klint Kubiak and Seattle 596 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: and McDaniels. And like Stikeen's a head coach, so that 597 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 4: takes him out of it. He's going to be in 598 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 4: the conversation with Rabel for Coach of the Year. But 599 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: Klint Kubiak's done an amazing job in Seattle too, But 600 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 4: you know, same thing, like he has Jackson Smith and Jigba, 601 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 4: and he has a more veteran quarterback and Sam Darnold, 602 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 4: and you know, you can make the same case that 603 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 4: we were making for Drake. So he's definitely gonna be 604 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 4: on the short list of nominations. You know, a lot 605 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: of the other guys that are really scheming their butts 606 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 4: off are head coaches, like you know McDonald, the Seattle 607 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 4: coach is scheming their defense, so their their defense is fantastic, 608 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 4: But it's the head coach that's driving the ship there, 609 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 4: not the assistant. 610 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 2: So John and Louisiana wants to make sure everyone knows 611 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: is that Fred chose the Bucks to win. Sunday tried 612 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: to mask it by saying the Patriots have to lose eventually, 613 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: but it was really his love for Baker that tipped 614 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 2: the scale. So stay on that side, Freddy, the train 615 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: has already left. JK and Evans. Bill's window is officially closed. 616 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: Good job. 617 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 5: Okay, what is JK and Evans just kidding? 618 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 8: I thought j. 619 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: Evans Evans Evan? Yeah, maybe like saying the grammar matters, 620 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: it matters. Yeah, I got my own Josh Allen literacy, 621 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: my own Josh Allen good. I have my own Josh Allen. 622 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: Now so Dan and Virginia Michigan, And I'm sure Evan 623 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: has the answer for this. He wants to know who 624 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: ran the fastest of the weekend, Kyle Williams on his 625 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: catch and run, Trevor Trevion Henderson on his first rushing touchdown, 626 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 2: or fred Curs running to close the window on the Bills. 627 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: Nice Davis Mills, did you see No? Did he run 628 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: like over nineteen miles an hour, which. 629 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 2: Is not for him? 630 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: That's pretty imp immediately calls into question for me all 631 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: those numbers, But that's just me U. 632 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 4: It is a literal GPS tracker like it could not 633 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 4: be more scientific, just like. 634 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: Someone with the stop which accurately said like I actually 635 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: saw like like flashes coming off of Kyle Williams when 636 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: he was in Mario Davis Mills twenty minutes to get 637 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: to the pylon and they were like one mile different, 638 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: like you drive over the power boosts very like I think. 639 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: It's like two miles per Henderson's fifty five yard run 640 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 4: was the fastest. He topped twenty two miles an hour. 641 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 4: So he's actually one of only four ball carriers in 642 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 4: the league to do that, because Junior Gibbs has done 643 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 4: it twice. So uh, he's one of four guys in 644 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: the entire NFL this year to top twenty two miles 645 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 4: an hour. It's the fifth fastest time of a ball 646 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 4: carrier in the league this season. And Kyle Williams was 647 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 4: over twenty one on his touchdown and then Travion's second 648 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 4: touchdown was over twenty one as well. 649 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: It's amazing they had like three touchdowns. I know, like 650 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: all up there in the. 651 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 6: Right well usually it's like Schooler is on like the 652 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 6: kickoff coverage team because you know, busting ass down the. 653 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 4: Field, right, Yeah, you gotta filter it out those like 654 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 4: gunners and stuff like that that just get a dead sprint, 655 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 4: Like that's not really the same thing. But uh, the 656 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 4: they do track acceleration as well, and Kyle Williams's acceleration 657 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 4: was off the charts. 658 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: That's what it was, Travion. It was like even on TV, 659 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: it was noticeable how fast they were. Yeah, you could 660 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: see it. 661 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 4: Once Trayvon Anderson on the fifty five yard er, he 662 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 4: like kind of puts two hands on the ball as 663 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 4: he's going through and once he felt that he was free, 664 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: it was. 665 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: Shot block out of a canon. 666 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of blocks. 667 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of blocks, Tonda, Everyone's talking about him taking 668 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: out two or three guys. 669 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: And it was like bowling pins. 670 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 4: Now, to be fair, he took out the first guy 671 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: and then he fell, which like caused Like it wasn't 672 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: like he literally blocked three guys. 673 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: However you do it, But he did his job. But 674 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: it was, yeah, it. 675 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 4: Created he created like a pile up exactly. But and 676 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 4: he's unbelievable. He's an unbelievable uh converted full back, like 677 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: maybe one of the better ones I've ever seen. Like 678 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 4: he is honestly, uh because he's super athletic for his size, 679 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 4: so they've used him like as a lead blocker traditional 680 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 4: full back. They brought him in motion and then kind 681 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 4: of have him kick out somebody when he comes in motion. 682 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: I mean, he just absolutely destroys the line of scrimmage. 683 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 4: He's actually like pretty good at it in terms of 684 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: like knowing who to block, because sometimes the pictures change 685 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: post snap, and he's like pretty good at seeing who 686 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 4: he's supposed to block, and you know, in an offensive 687 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 4: lineman misses a block, he like helps them and makes 688 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 4: it the block and correct and like all that kind 689 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 4: of stuff. He's he's really really good at it, Like 690 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: he had to. I know, you did it a little 691 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 4: bit in high school and college, but this has to 692 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 4: be something that like he's studied quiet kind of a lot, 693 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 4: Like maybe this was like a potential path for him 694 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: at one point, and so he was really working at 695 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 4: fullback because this isn't like you know when you see 696 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 4: certain guys that just coming on the goal line and 697 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 4: they just run, you know, straight into the line of 698 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 4: scrimmage and just kind of go full bore. Like they're 699 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 4: kind of using him in some unique ways for a 700 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: guy that's never really done it before, and they're definitely 701 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 4: gonna throw him a pass at some point like that, 702 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 4: that's one hundred percent coming. 703 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 7: He told me it's just one snap. Ever in his 704 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 7: NFL career, his rookie year he did played offense. But 705 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 7: it's funny because he loves it so much. We've both 706 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 7: had these conversations with him. His face lights up when 707 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 7: he talks about playing offense. 708 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: It's incredible, how like I said, like how good he 709 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 4: is at, you know, reacting on the fly to like 710 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: who he's supposed to be blocking. Like that's something that 711 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 4: doesn't come naturally, Like that takes reps in time to 712 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 4: learn how to do it, and he's he's already doing 713 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 4: that at a. 714 00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: Really high level. 715 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 4: He doesn't play a ton on defense, so it's not 716 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: like a Marcus Jones situation where you're worried about, like 717 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: is he going to be playing too much? He only 718 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 4: plays about twenty five to thirty snaps a game on defense, 719 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 4: So if you use him, they've played them eight snaps 720 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 4: on offense on Sunday, It's not like there it's like 721 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 4: a ton of workloads. So I think they can continue 722 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 4: to use him pretty heavily on offense as well. 723 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: Andrew Peterson from London is fed up to Peterson. This 724 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: is not necessarily directed at you guys, but more at 725 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: the general narrative. Yes, I know the Patriots have had 726 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: an easy schedule. However, in caps look at the strength 727 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: of victory. The Patriots have an equal SOV to the 728 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: Colts and a better SOV than the Broncos, Bills, and Chiefs. 729 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: So to this point in the season, most of the 730 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: top of the AFC don't really have more than one 731 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: or two wins against good teams either. We should get 732 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: the number one seed. The rest of the way. Both 733 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: of Colts and the Broncos have pretty difficult schedules. The 734 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: Bills play a reasonably difficult schedule and the Charges don't 735 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: have any lay up games either. So what do you 736 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: think about that strength of victory? 737 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't really care about any of this. 738 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah you don't. 739 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: You don't care, So no more talk about easy schedule. 740 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: I know you can talk about this, that's what he's 741 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: talking about. But strength of victory is. 742 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 4: Like, I don't care about how the schedule and I 743 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 4: don't care about that. 744 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: I know. 745 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: So we don't know what that's going to end, I know, 746 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: but we make it to calculate that now is a 747 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: waste of everybody. 748 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 5: But people make it a point. Oh they've got an 749 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 5: easy schedule. 750 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: They do, you know, so because they do, But maybe 751 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 1: why is it compared to who not compared to Buffalo, 752 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: because they have an easy schedule too. 753 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: They're in the same division, right, So but what he's 754 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: saying is so far strength of victory the Patriot. 755 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: That's irrelevant is what I'm saying. That doesn't matter. It's 756 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: who you played. 757 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 5: Well, that's how you get your strength of victory. 758 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: No, do you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, and let's 759 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: move on kind of. 760 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: But just because he understands, I don't emary elitist. 761 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: There's eight more games to play, I know, but strength 762 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: of victory will will win work itself out. 763 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 5: I understand it. 764 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: They have their strength of victory because they've winning every 765 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: single game, because they're playing against easy teams. If you 766 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: lose against the hard team, they don't get strength to 767 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: victory points Denver had because nothing to Denver ones that 768 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: with the Denver. 769 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: And the Colts are the same amount of wins. 770 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: So what does that mean? 771 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 5: You said, because they're winning all the games, Well, so 772 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 5: are the Denver and. 773 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: The Colts, but they've lost to other good teams. But 774 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: like according like the Broncos lost to the Colts. 775 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 5: I know, but according to this guy, so they didn't 776 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 5: get strength. 777 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: To victory points for that because they didn't win the game. 778 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: What do you mean they didn't win the game? 779 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: They lost to the Colts. 780 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 5: Okay, so they didn't win. 781 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: But right, you don't have that strength and loss to 782 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: the Raiders strength. So their strength of victory is better 783 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: because you played better teams when you when you won. 784 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: But they all had the same amount of wins too. 785 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: I know, but that counts strength of victory, right, and 786 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 2: they beat every one of those other things. But up 787 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: to this point, he's right, correct. 788 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't calculate strength of victory. 789 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 11: He is. 790 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: I would say that. 791 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 4: It The part that stinks about it is that it 792 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 4: does matter because it's part of the tiebreaker for it. 793 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: But it's like the fourth thing. 794 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 2: I know, but it's all. 795 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 4: But it's part of the tiebreaker formula for this, and 796 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: it's awesome important. It's also part of the tiebreaker formula 797 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 4: for the drinks after. 798 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: Head to head, Okay, it's a conference, it's after common opponents. 799 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 5: It's not that important part of the discussion. 800 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 4: Well, it's actually more important if you're tanking, honestly, Like 801 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 4: it's like the. 802 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: Draft order is, that's when it's important. 803 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 4: That's why the Commanders had a higher pick than the 804 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 4: Patriots a couple of years ago, and why they got 805 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels and we got Drake may It is because 806 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 4: it's strength and victory. So it does matter in that respect. 807 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 4: But they're on the other side of it now where 808 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 4: we're talking about the things you know in conference. 809 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: Actually has it perfect because he's talking about the AFC 810 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: West teams have to all play each other and that 811 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: their schedules would be so down the stretch, right, And 812 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: that's why I'm saying it's irrelevant to talk about strength 813 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: the victory now, Okay, Well, and I don't like, I'll 814 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: take your word for it. I don't look at strength 815 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: of victory when you're ten games into a season. If 816 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: it gets down to the season's over and everybody's tied 817 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: and everybody doesn't have head to head and yeah, I'll 818 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: look at four and five tie breakers down the road. 819 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: Does he who wins two? But coin toss is one 820 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: of those two? Is that important? 821 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 8: Well? 822 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: In Texas it is. Do you see that at the 823 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: gas station? 824 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 4: I see that, actually Texas football. I just don't understand 825 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 4: why any of this matters. 826 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 6: Well, I just I don't need this stat to tell 827 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 6: me what I've got his show, That's all I know. 828 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: Because they're even talking about next year because they. 829 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 4: Talk about it because he admits that he's just trying 830 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 4: to poke Patriots fans, and they're not talking about it. 831 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: Seriously, if you end up fourteen and three, no one's 832 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: going to care, Like your strength to schedule like is irrelevant. 833 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: If you have a better record than everybody else, like 834 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, Like I don't know why you lose 835 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: sleepover this is I guess belong and short people. 836 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 2: Patriots fans are very sensitive about everything about about other 837 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: people not giving them. 838 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 7: Some troll saying you guys haven't played anyone good, and 839 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 7: then they need amo to feed back at whoever's trolling them. 840 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: But that's the thing about the league. No one has 841 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: played anyone really good. 842 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 5: Right, So why are the Patriots the only one that 843 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 5: gets that? 844 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: Because they have the easiest one by by numbers, Like 845 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: you guys want to use the numbers to tell me 846 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: all about their explosiveness and this, that and the other thing. 847 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: But you can't use the numbers that that says that 848 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: they have the easiest schedule. Buffalo has the same easy 849 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: He's back. He's back, Like, I just don't understand why 850 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: it's not good enough to have what Mike did the 851 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: first ten minutes of the show. That's that's where I'm at. 852 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: I just talked and that game was how exciting it 853 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: is to be eight and two, how exciting. 854 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 4: It is to be people like you and your brethren 855 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 4: just have to show do any of them the bear. 856 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: That's what you, guys. I spent two hours celebrating a 857 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: great win on Sunday and still got killed for this. 858 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, that's what it is. Just shut 859 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: off the radio. That's it. Turn on this radio. 860 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know, I don't know. You 861 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 2: guys said you celebrated. But Barton Poland, I love Paulie 862 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 2: says he's by far my favorite. But on the postgame show, 863 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: he was unlistenable, say why did you do that? Like 864 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: he was on purpose trying to be unnecessarily objective. The 865 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: one that probably bugged me the most was underplaying Drake's 866 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 2: throw to Williams and saying that Kyle Williams and stupid 867 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: defending were solely responsible for it. 868 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: Well, Kyle Williams was not. It was a great throw. 869 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: Have you seen the end zone angle? But it was 870 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 2: all on the defender from But would you say that 871 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: May had to make a perfect throw to get that done? Yes, okay, 872 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 2: I would. 873 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: I said that. 874 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 5: That's all he said that Sunday. That's all he's saying. 875 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: I think Matt's actually I think Matt Smith said that 876 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: Sunday to credit well he said it was a great throw. 877 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. 878 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: I think we did talk about I want you to hear, 879 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: but I want to give credit to the guy who 880 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: actually said it, Matt Smith. 881 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 4: I want you to say it was a perfect Well, 882 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 4: thank god we had that. 883 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: It was a perfect It was a perfect throw. 884 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: You know. But I do like Barton. 885 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: He is one of our long timers. We had a 886 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: phrase in that that was that really struck my fancy. 887 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: He's unnecessarily objective. I didn't know that was such a thing. Hey, 888 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: you don't know what objective should be a kind of 889 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: your job, right. 890 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 5: Our job is to entertain. There you go, Fred I 891 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 5: like that. 892 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 2: However, the fans feel that being entertained. 893 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: That's our job, which is why we do the window talk. 894 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: That's right, that's entertained. 895 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 5: That's right. 896 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 2: I entertained myself when I do it. That's you know, 897 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 2: I'm my own audience there. What are you doing? 898 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: We're all having a good time today. What's not to 899 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 1: have a Seriously, that was one of the more enjoyable 900 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: games because, like it was a good team give me, yes, 901 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: give me when the other team actually punches back, you know, 902 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: and then you win it, that's you know, I know 903 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: Fred loves the blowouts. Like, I'll take that game any 904 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: day of the. 905 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 2: More criticism for us. Travis in West Virginia. I thought 906 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: we agreed that writing in and asking where to eat 907 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 2: is dumb, but I noticed Alex wrote a fifteen thousand 908 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 2: word essay on that very topic in the PW newsletter. 909 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 2: Is this the best way for her to spend your time? Also, 910 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 2: can you tell Deuce to stop relating everything to when 911 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 2: he started working in twenty nineteen. 912 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know he's doing that. 913 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 7: Sorry, Travis, that's sorry for trying to help people out 914 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 7: with food recommendations. 915 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 2: I love it when people criticize it. Mike and Medford 916 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: Paul suddenly thinks the easy schedule is irrelevant. For eight weeks, 917 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 2: we still suck because our schedule was so easy. Used 918 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: to make me angry. 919 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: Irrelevant, used to make me angry. 920 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 5: Now I'm just worried about what's that again? 921 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: Sorry? I didn't get the explanation. Can we talk about 922 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: weakness of defeat? 923 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: That's the defeat? 924 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike do so. I appreciate it. 925 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 6: Their weakness of defeat. It's really good or bad. 926 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Whatever's better for the Patriots. 927 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 12: Is what it is. 928 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 5: I go or strength at defeat. 929 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: Now, I've waited so much trying. 930 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 4: I've waited forty one minutes to not have any grievances 931 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 4: about this game. 932 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: So I think that's pretty good. I don't know if 933 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: we're going to have an a grievance about this game. 934 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the phone. I have a 935 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 2: couple eight five five pats five hundred. Let's see what 936 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 2: everyone else has. 937 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: I'm saying myself from that. 938 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 5: Nate's in Connecticut. 939 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 2: What's up? Nate? 940 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 3: Hey, guys, can you aysgree Well? 941 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 6: Yep, Nate, So, uh my question for you guys. 942 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 3: Well more of a thought actually, but obviously our defensive 943 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 3: line has been overperforming. You know, they've been doing very well. 944 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: And uh, how unnecessarily objective. 945 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 3: We're we're an eight win team and you know, with 946 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 3: our strength to schedule, I think playoffs for us are 947 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 3: easily guaranteed. And how important do you think it is 948 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 3: to keep our defensive line pretty healthy? You know people 949 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 3: are calling. 950 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 12: At the wall. 951 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 3: Uh, we haven't let up a fifty yard running back 952 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 3: by Canva Bay. 953 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 6: We only a sixty yard at least you get to 954 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 6: sixty went to fifty three. 955 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: Alright, So I'm just gonna like, now it's fifty the 956 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: speed limit. 957 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So uh well, I thought, you know, one 958 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 4: thing that has caught my eye to that point, Nate, 959 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 4: is the last couple of weeks, Christian Barmore hasn't really 960 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 4: been himself this Yeah, and I don't know if that 961 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 4: back thing happened, Like I saw him go down, obviously 962 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 4: we all did, but was that percolating under the surface 963 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 4: and then it flared up during the game. Uh, He's 964 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 4: gone two straight weeks without logging a pressure on a quarterback, 965 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 4: which is not the Christian paid So I kind of 966 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 4: chalked that up to it last week because he did 967 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 4: get more of the double teams and Milton Williams. Uh So, 968 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 4: I that was sort of what I chalked it up 969 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 4: to last week, But then it was the same this 970 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 4: So at what point are we, you know, looking at 971 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 4: something And I'm not saying it's he's a bad player. 972 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 4: I'm saying it's something physical that he might be dealing 973 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 4: with that's having him slow down. But I will say 974 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 4: Corey Durden is doing some good stuff on the defensive line, 975 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 4: and I know that that's a kind of under the radar, 976 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 4: unsung hero type of player. But he had three pressures 977 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 4: in this game. He's really hard to move in the 978 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 4: run game as well as strong dude. He's somebody that 979 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 4: I has really caught the eye watching their tape. 980 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 6: Anything else, Okay, evn't planned to seat on Barmore yesterday 981 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 6: when I saw you and then when I did my 982 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 6: defensive grind of the tape. 983 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: This is my thought on Barmore as I've watched him more. 984 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 6: Sometimes when he's at his best, it feels like he 985 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 6: is on the verge of being out of control, like 986 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 6: he's very much just a wrecking call and throwing himself 987 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 6: in there. And you know, I don't know, there's just 988 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 6: something that I didn't really see in the game from 989 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 6: him that I saw and sometimes when I would watch 990 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 6: him early in the season, it almost felt like it's like, 991 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 6: I don't know, you're like out of control, You're you're 992 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 6: kind of reckless abandon right now, whereas like Milton Williams 993 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 6: feels very much into like technique, control effort, and I 994 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 6: just I wonder what Barmore, if that's you know, another 995 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,720 Speaker 6: symptom of what you're saying, if there is something physical 996 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 6: going on with him, because when he really is going, 997 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 6: it jumps off to me. You could just see, like, 998 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 6: my god, this guy is just throwing himself into the line, 999 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 6: you know, throwing himself into blockers when they're running stunts. 1000 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 6: And the other guy, I think we should maybe mention 1001 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 6: it's just, you know, Harold Landry, who you know, hasn't 1002 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 6: really been productive. I found myself a little torn on 1003 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 6: him because at the same time, I think he's a 1004 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 6: really stout piece. I just don't know if he's got 1005 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 6: right now. 1006 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 1: And again it could be an injury. 1007 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 6: Going back to what was it the New Orleans game, 1008 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 6: I think is where it looked like he heard his ankle. Yeah, 1009 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 6: you know, maybe he just doesn't quite have the wiggle 1010 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 6: to get away from guys as much, but he's still 1011 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 6: very solid. He plays within the scheme, and you know, 1012 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 6: it's it's like one of those things where I like 1013 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 6: what he's doing in one regard, but he hasn't really 1014 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 6: produced the way he did the first like three or 1015 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 6: four games of the season when he was consistently pressures, 1016 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 6: solo tackles, those kind of things. 1017 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I would agree with that. And I 1018 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: think with bar More, to me, it's pad level. 1019 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 4: Like when he when he's playing with good leverage and 1020 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 4: good pad level, he's so big and strong and he's 1021 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 4: got really long arms and he can just kind of 1022 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 4: bull rush people back into the pocket and if he 1023 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 4: has a back thing like it's probably harder for him 1024 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 4: to play what that kind of leverage every way. So 1025 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 4: I think that that could be something that's that's happening 1026 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 4: with him. Uh, Chase On has been really good. You know, 1027 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 4: he's continuing had a really good to be disruptive. Millon 1028 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 4: Williams is a freaking monster. Yeah, Milon Williams is motor 1029 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,919 Speaker 4: is just I was just gonna say to like Chase 1030 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 4: down ball sideline, he is all. 1031 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 2: On the other side of the ball of Patriots offensive line. 1032 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 2: Joe and Michigan points out Vea had one solo tackle, 1033 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 2: one pressure, zero sacks. The old line was much much improved, 1034 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 2: giving up only one sack to a blitz crazy Tampa Bay. 1035 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if they were blitz crazy, but they're 1036 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 2: a good d Yeah, but how do we think the 1037 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: offensive line did that? 1038 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 4: Van number is widely incorrect. He was in the backfield 1039 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 4: the entire game. Yeah, he was a monster in this game. 1040 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 4: And you know, short yardage running, goal line, pass rush. 1041 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 4: I mean he lived in the backfield and was all 1042 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 4: over Drake May. Garrett Bradberry gave up six pressures in 1043 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 4: this game at center, and I don't. 1044 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 1: Really kind of held on. I don't really blame him. 1045 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 4: And it was exactly what Josh McDaniel said last week, like, 1046 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 4: if you're gonna die, die slowly. And that was exactly 1047 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 4: poor Garrett Bradberry on Sunday, just like there's a clear 1048 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 4: size mismatch between those two guys, and Bradbury is just 1049 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,959 Speaker 4: on skates and just trying to hold on for dear life. 1050 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 4: And I give him credit for hanging in there and playing. 1051 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 4: Uh you know as best as he could, but Vita 1052 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,240 Speaker 4: Vea was a NonStop problem for them. Now, the tackles 1053 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 4: played pretty well, and I thought Campbell and Moses were quiet. 1054 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: The Abby is a good player. I thought the Abby 1055 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: was an impact guy. Yeah at the edge. 1056 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 4: He's a good player. And I thought Campbell, you know, 1057 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 4: did pretty well against him. You know, a couple of pressures, 1058 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 4: but nothing crazy, you know, no sacks, So I thought 1059 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 4: he was pretty solid in this game. 1060 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: I think people are going to look at the one 1061 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: sack thing and make that determination. I think it was 1062 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: similar what we've seen hasn't been bad. Offensive line. I 1063 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: don't think has been bad, and I don't think they 1064 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: were bad Sunday, But I wouldn't confuse like six sacks 1065 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: one week, one sack the next, what an unbelievable improvement. 1066 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 1: I think it was similar. 1067 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 4: Well, I would say what an unbelievable improvement would probably 1068 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 4: go more to Drake than to the offensive line. I 1069 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 4: thought in this game he's stood in pockets and read 1070 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 4: out plays a lot better. And that was something we 1071 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 4: talked about a whole lot last week in terms of 1072 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 4: taking unnecessary sacks, and I thought he managed the pressure 1073 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 4: exceptionally well. In this game, and I thought the most 1074 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 4: and obviously the downfield throws are great. The throw to pop, 1075 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 4: the slant to pop against the blitz over the middle 1076 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 4: of the field that went for twenty six yards. To me, 1077 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 4: was the best play of the game he made because 1078 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 4: he's got a free runner coming right at him up 1079 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 4: the middle of the Levante. David comes free right up 1080 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 4: the middle. Uh, and he stood in there and took 1081 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 4: a hit. 1082 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 5: That's the one where it's kind of arm angle was 1083 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 5: a dangerous. 1084 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 2: Was No, it was a slot to slant to pop, 1085 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 2: which was the one where he had pressure all around 1086 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 2: him and he lowered his arm angle and got the 1087 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 2: pass off with that. 1088 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: Holland I don't know. 1089 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 2: It was a short pass though, Yeah, yeah, it might 1090 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 2: have been Hollands. 1091 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, he threw a little like push pass, little shovel 1092 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 4: to pop on. 1093 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 2: A chat was another one. Yeah, but but he was. 1094 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: Looking I actually I had no problem with that one 1095 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: because I thought he was looking right at Pop and 1096 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: he knew there is nobody over there. 1097 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1098 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 4: It was the one to pop to me, is like, 1099 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 4: that's that's quarterbacking, right, Like you you know you're going 1100 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 4: to get killed. You're staring down the barrel, they drop 1101 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 4: the end out and so it's Pop Douglas on a 1102 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 4: defensive end in a little bit of space, and so 1103 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 4: it's one of your quickest players against the two hundred 1104 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 4: and ninety ninety five pound guy. 1105 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 1: And he stood in there, he saw it. 1106 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 4: He made the throw hit, popping stride and he actually 1107 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 4: it was an ankle biting tackle if he doesn't get clipped. 1108 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: There were a couple of throwaways in this game. There 1109 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 1: was I think there was a lot of what Evan's 1110 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 1: talking about quarterbacking that I liked. And I think that 1111 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: that's the difference between six sacks and one sack. Is 1112 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm okay if I only complete fifty one in change 1113 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: or whatever. Now, maybe that's a little low in this 1114 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 1: day and age, but it doesn't have to be seventy 1115 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 1: five percent to be effective. 1116 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 2: But I did. 1117 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: He showed you he was very effective at times. But 1118 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: Drake with pressure, he did get hit a lot, just 1119 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: took some hits. You know, we got our guy, and 1120 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: our guy is tough. Yeah, I mean he took some 1121 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: big hits. Yeah they may not have been SATs, but 1122 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 1: he took some big hits. I was just worried that 1123 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: in this game. I don't know what the numbers would suggest, 1124 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: but I thought the hit, like the caliber of hit, 1125 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,240 Speaker 1: it was better in the you know, better for the defense. 1126 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: I smoked him on one and I was like, oh God. 1127 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: But I thought that in general, the. 1128 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 4: It it would talk a lot about like him leaving 1129 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 4: the pocket early and not letting plays develop and getting 1130 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 4: a little bit antsy. And I give him a lot 1131 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 4: of credit because he knew that they were going to 1132 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 4: come after him, and he stood in there and he 1133 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 4: delivered time and time again. And they spied him a 1134 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 4: lot in this game on third down, so like it 1135 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 4: would have been playing into their hands if he had 1136 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,800 Speaker 4: gone out of structure and started running around. That was 1137 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 4: what they wanted him to do, and he was able 1138 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 4: to stay in the pocket and make throws from the 1139 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 4: pocket on time, and I thought that was a big 1140 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 4: difference in this game. 1141 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 5: Brian in Long Beach, California. What's up? 1142 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 2: Brian's Long Beach? 1143 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 13: Hey, Ella's first time calling in. I just wanted to 1144 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 13: say that this is like the first time in a 1145 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 13: long time that big plays have been part of this offense, 1146 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 13: and it's been quite a place to actually watch enjoyable play. 1147 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 13: It's kind of like when we would watch the Chiefs 1148 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 13: and wonder, like, what's so great about this team? Yeah, 1149 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 13: and then they put up a big play and like 1150 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,240 Speaker 13: that's it, that's where it's at, and it's finally time. 1151 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 8: For us to do that. 1152 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, we got some players a stranger. 1153 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: In my view, what's the biggest difference in the offense 1154 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: from the last few years is their ability to get 1155 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: chunks and not have to I mean, they had one 1156 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: drive on Sunday. No, I know that's an extreme. This 1157 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: particular game is an extreme. You can't live like that. 1158 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: They had three touchdown drives or two plays or less. Yeah, 1159 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: you can't do that every week. But the ability to 1160 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: get the ball down the field so it doesn't have 1161 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: to be a fourteen play drive all the time is 1162 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 1: why you're what was it eighth in points as opposed 1163 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,320 Speaker 1: to twenty eighth or to defend Fred. 1164 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, their third and explosive play rate, you know past 1165 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,919 Speaker 4: play rate right now, that's an offense and I would 1166 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 4: say that this is like the last time that they 1167 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 4: were this explosive was probably like twenty seventeen, like with 1168 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 4: Brandon Cooks and that offense. 1169 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's not even just going back. 1170 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 4: Through obviously post Brady, Like the last couple of years 1171 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 4: with Brady they worked this explosive either offensively in eighteen 1172 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 4: and nineteen, so they they've really that's that's their offense now. 1173 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 4: And I think that it's a testament to to you know, 1174 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 4: I don't think that they're running it the Brady offense 1175 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,439 Speaker 4: like for in terms of Josh McDaniels, Like, I don't 1176 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,720 Speaker 4: think that they were throwing bombs like this with Brady 1177 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 4: maybe like oh seven, but that was because you had 1178 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 4: Randy Moss and a Hall of Fame receiver, Like this 1179 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 4: isn't They don't have a Randy Moss running out there 1180 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 4: that's taking the top off the defense. And they're still 1181 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 4: super super explosive. And and I think that that has 1182 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 4: a lot to do with Drake. 1183 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 6: Well, what was your reaction in the press box when 1184 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 6: Drake throw that that they're hold on? Welly sorry ballame 1185 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 6: h when he threw that downfield pas to mac collins. 1186 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 6: So that because that to me is just it's the 1187 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 6: confidence that you have. 1188 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, like that, So they're in Cover three in the 1189 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,879 Speaker 4: corners like bailing and Zion McCollum is just like backpedaling 1190 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,399 Speaker 4: and backpedaling and he's like, there's no way this ball 1191 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 4: is going over my head, and sure enough it goes 1192 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 4: right over his head. Like that's an really, there's no 1193 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 4: you should not be able to outthrow an NFL cornerback 1194 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 4: like that. 1195 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: And he's done that twice now in New Orleans. 1196 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 4: It didn't count, but both those times, like the cornerback 1197 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 4: is like he's looking up and he's looking up and 1198 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,439 Speaker 4: he's like, is it's still going? 1199 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 2: Like you know? 1200 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 1: And sure enough it did. 1201 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 5: Williams and Fort Lauderdale. 1202 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 2: William you go to the elbow room, Actually we did. 1203 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 14: It's actually emailed a couple of days ago Soda that 1204 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 14: I was bringing my mom up she you know, battling 1205 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,879 Speaker 14: cancer right now. And we went on Saturday to sorry, 1206 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 14: not the elbow room. On Saturday, we went to the 1207 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 14: past Tampa clubs that yeah, you talked about. That was 1208 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 14: really fun. That was cool. It took a couple of 1209 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 14: pictures of Pat Patriot. That was fun. But I do 1210 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 14: have a bone to pick with hats fans. We sat 1211 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,359 Speaker 14: on the sideline and there were so many fans I'm 1212 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 14: talking about like we literally like took over the whole 1213 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 14: entire stadium. But nobody was cheering, and we were trying 1214 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 14: to get everybody all hyped up. We were trying to 1215 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 14: get everybody to scream MVP. But it was everybody was 1216 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 14: kind of a bunch of bummers. Man, it was. It 1217 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 14: really could have been louder in there, if they if 1218 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 14: everybody started a chance. 1219 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,959 Speaker 2: Wow. I mean I was sitting in the press box 1220 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 2: with closed windows and I could hear the MVP chance Yeah, 1221 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,320 Speaker 2: heard on TV. It wasn't that. 1222 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 14: It wasn't that. It wasn't that loud. It was it 1223 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 14: could have been. I mean, it could have been louder. 1224 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 14: But I okay, there's so many people not cheering. There 1225 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 14: was and I do want to leave. I have a 1226 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 14: question for you guys. I'm worried about our depth on 1227 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,879 Speaker 14: running back. So I saw through Al Jennings get hurt. 1228 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 14: I'm a little worried about what's going to happen when. 1229 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 15: We go, you know, if we're going to the playoffs, 1230 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 15: we try. 1231 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 14: To make a run. What do you guys think our 1232 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 14: options are now that the trade deadline has passed by 1233 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 14: Thanks take it off. 1234 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 1: The okay, thanks rolling with what they got. I mean 1235 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: I think you're looking at getting Remondre back so yeah, 1236 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 1: I think that's the. 1237 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 4: That's the best case scenario. I mean Henderson, I think 1238 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 4: this has allowed him to break out a little bit 1239 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 4: and playing a little bit more and getting some opportunities, 1240 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 4: and hopefully that continues, and then you get Remondre back, and. 1241 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe Jennings is healthy, can sprinkle in Jennings as 1242 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 6: the third back, maybe spell Remandree a little bit. But 1243 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,399 Speaker 6: I think, I mean, I think, if anything, it would 1244 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 6: really benefit Henderson to be able to not have to 1245 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 6: be so much in the spotlight and be able to 1246 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 6: pick your spots with him, and maybe these plays from 1247 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 6: last week will give him some confidence. 1248 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 5: Brianna's from southern cal you know where. 1249 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 1250 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 2: She wants to thank us. She's been listening since twenty sixteen. 1251 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 2: We make all the ups and ups fun and the 1252 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 2: downs easier to stomach. This year has brought me so 1253 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 2: much joy. However, my husband says I need heart medication 1254 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 2: after watching the last two games. Of course, I'd rather 1255 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 2: be doing well, but just but last year was a 1256 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 2: little easier on my heart in mental health. Really, guess 1257 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 2: the anxiety is a good sign. I'll take it. Also, 1258 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 2: a lot of arguments this year especially between Paul and Evan. 1259 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,959 Speaker 2: I think that means we're back. Go Pats, and thanks 1260 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 2: for all you guys do for us. 1261 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 6: Definitely different, definitely different on a seven game winster than 1262 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,919 Speaker 6: a four win season for sure. 1263 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: Still have to get to those agrievances. Oh yeah, what 1264 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: do you. 1265 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,839 Speaker 6: Before lunch because after we'll do it after. 1266 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna do it after because I just feel like, 1267 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 1: you know, there were some things that I need to 1268 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: work on the tape. 1269 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, offensive, defensive well, Rhett writes in He says Drake 1270 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 2: cannot throw that end zone interception with five minutes left 1271 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. Otherwise it was an MVP performance. 1272 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 2: I'm not sure we win if Baker had all his weapons, 1273 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 2: Evans God went Bucky. He was relying on two rookie 1274 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 2: wide receivers and ted Igbuka and Tez. Yes, I know 1275 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 2: we were missing Booty and Stevenson two, but Hollins and 1276 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 2: Henderson stepped up big. Lastly, good news for the Patriots. 1277 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 2: The Chiefs will play the Colts the Chargers in the 1278 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 2: Broncos twice, meaning we have a good chance of getting 1279 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 2: the number one seed, or Chiefs could lose these games 1280 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 2: and likely be eliminated from playoff contention. 1281 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 4: I think that this year, maybe more than any other 1282 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 4: year that I've been interested in, the playoff seeding, the 1283 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 4: number one seed might be the most important it's ever been, 1284 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 4: because the three wild card teams are going to be 1285 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 4: like Buffalo, Casey and Baltimore, you know, like so like 1286 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 4: as great of a year as they've had. If you 1287 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 4: you know, are the two or three seed and then 1288 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 4: Buffalo's coming here wild card weekend like that, all could 1289 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 4: go up in flames, really really quickly. 1290 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 2: So so, Paul, A lot of people compare, is this 1291 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 2: team like the one team? Is it more like the 1292 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 2: ninety sixteen where that year Denver got knocked out and 1293 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 2: the Patriots ended up having that home game, remember on 1294 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 2: the path to the super Bowl? 1295 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: No, I do remember. I don't know if I would 1296 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 1: This to me is different because I think you have 1297 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's ninety six ish. You know, 1298 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: you have a second year quarterback. You know, Drew was 1299 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 1: in what fourth year at the time. 1300 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that. 1301 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: There's a team that I you know, I'm not telling 1302 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: you I want to play that gauntlet that Devon just 1303 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: talked about. But in ninety six. I did not want 1304 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 1: to play Denver. I don't know if there's a team 1305 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 1: that I would say that about. Okay, yeah, it's not 1306 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: a top you know again, what I'd rather play Jacksonville. 1307 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: Let's let's say that they get the let's say they 1308 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: win the division, but they don't get the number one 1309 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 1: seed and they're the two seed, so you play seven. 1310 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: I'll take Jacksonville or the Chargers over Kansas City or Baltimore, 1311 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: which would be the options, you know. But I'm not 1312 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: necessarily sitting there saying, oh geez, I don't want to 1313 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: have to host Kansas City. We had no shots a 1314 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: little there's no good team. 1315 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 5: Elicit your chops to play run defense is so good. 1316 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 1: That's a that's a really interesting matchup that i'd love 1317 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 1: to see. I'd love to see it. 1318 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 6: I mean, that's it's exactly what you're thinking when they 1319 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 6: go against a team like that. But they're they're they've 1320 00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 6: got a gauntlet to go through to I think they'll 1321 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 6: they'll they'll middle out a little bit. 1322 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 4: I just worried, Like I wouldn't say they have no chance, 1323 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 4: but I worry that a team like Kansas City is 1324 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 4: going to turn the flip the switch. Oh yeah, like Baltimore, 1325 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 4: everybody's going right. I I you know, Buffalo is a 1326 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 4: little bit different because they shouldn't be flipping switches. 1327 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: They should be They're going the other way with the injury, right. 1328 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: The other teams are getting healthy, they're going the other right. 1329 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 1: Like if Kansas City. 1330 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 2: When the windows shut, you get hurt, get there, crap 1331 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 2: togetherst year, everybody stayed healthy for them. 1332 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: What with Oliver? Is he out for Yeah? 1333 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 2: But is that like, you know, is. 1334 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 4: Kansas City like the the end of the Brady era, 1335 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 4: like in twenty eighteen where they kind of stumble into 1336 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 4: the playoffs but then once they get in, they flip 1337 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 4: the switch and all of a sudden they're in the 1338 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 4: super Bowl again. 1339 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: Like that would not be my first choice. 1340 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, Alex is in Pennsylvania. 1341 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 2: Hey Alex, Hey friend, what's going on? Hey? 1342 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 10: Hey, So, I just thinking the other day when I 1343 00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 10: was watching this game that I can't remember having this 1344 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 10: much fun watching a team. You know, even to get 1345 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 10: back to to Deuce where I first started listening with 1346 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 10: Deuces first week. But you know, even in the Brady area, 1347 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 10: the expectations were so high and I just feel like 1348 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 10: this this team is so much fun to watch, and 1349 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,919 Speaker 10: you know that goal line stand in Rabel going forward 1350 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 10: on fourth down, even though I probably wasn't the happiest person, 1351 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 10: but it worked out well. I just I just have 1352 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 10: so much fun watching it. It's just feels a little 1353 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 10: less stressful and. 1354 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 12: A lot more fun. 1355 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, every week is different. You know, something somebody else 1356 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 2: steps up. It's it's been great to watch. Thanks Alex 1357 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 2: so he brought up going forward on fourth down. I 1358 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 2: think it's time for Paul's school of clock management. What 1359 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 2: did you think about Trevian Should he have gone in 1360 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 2: and scored or not? 1361 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 1: I think we talked about that. 1362 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 2: Do you think he should have he. 1363 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Should have gone down? You think he should have became 1364 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 1: what you're talking about the end of the game, At 1365 01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 1: the end of the game. Yeah, but you really don't listen. 1366 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't kill him for 1367 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 1: scoring because either way the game should be over. If 1368 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: you go win and score, you have a two score 1369 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 1: lead with the minute and a half left, the game 1370 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: should be over. And if you lose, it's not Trevi 1371 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: on Henderson's fault that you lost. If you give up 1372 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: a touchdown and on side kick and a touchdown. That said, 1373 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 1: if he goes down, you can't lose unless you fumble 1374 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 1: the snap. Yep, because you take three knees and the 1375 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: game's over. Yeah, I think you people do in the 1376 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 1: playoffs right, sort of confusing something. The Bucks had two 1377 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 1: timeouts left and they think, well, one play, two plays, timeout, timeout. No, 1378 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 1: they would have had to take a timeout before first 1379 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 1: down because after Trevion's run. After the run, so let's 1380 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: just say there is a minute twenty five left, they 1381 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: have to call timeout. So now you run a play, 1382 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe you have drake, you know, step back a couple 1383 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 1: of yards, takes three or four seconds off the clock. 1384 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Time out. Now they can't stop the clock anymore. You 1385 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 1: can do that two more times. The game's over. But 1386 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to kill a kid for going into 1387 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 1: the end zone to give a two school a lead. 1388 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 1: In the final time. 1389 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 5: I would have given him the green light, let him score. 1390 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1391 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 6: In the moment, I was like, go kid, go finish 1392 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 6: your great day. But then when you really think about it, 1393 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 6: it's hard to do the math on the in the moment. 1394 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 2: Well, the end of the half, that's what I wanted 1395 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 2: to that's the next one. 1396 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 5: That's the next one not. 1397 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 1: Scoring on purpose? 1398 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 2: Loved it. 1399 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 1: It didn't matter. 1400 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 2: If I. 1401 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely loved it. Now I would have scored. 1402 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 7: Popped into my head and I was like, I need 1403 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 7: a Paul Cameron. 1404 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 1: I would have scored before fourth down. 1405 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 4: I probably would would have like was nothing whole, but 1406 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 4: to do what they did on first down, to bleed 1407 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 4: forty seconds off the clock, I thought was was like, 1408 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 4: you think that was a masterclass some of those Yeah, 1409 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 4: like the old Belichick, you know Strokes a genius, Like 1410 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 4: I thought that was exactly it. And I thought that 1411 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,440 Speaker 4: his answer Rabel after the game told me it was 1412 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 4: exactly it because he was so coy about I think 1413 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,080 Speaker 4: it was Greg that asked the question, but Dard and 1414 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 4: he wouldn't answer whether or not it was on purpose 1415 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 4: or not. And I think that that told me that 1416 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 4: he was doing it on purpose, and so it was 1417 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 4: on purpose. 1418 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, And you didn't like that, I'm out hated it. 1419 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 5: So you don't like giving up downs. 1420 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: I was told that it's hard to do these things 1421 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: in this league, hard to win, it's hard to score. Yes, 1422 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: I guess it's not. They just decided that we're going 1423 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 1: to score on fourth down. 1424 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 4: Wow, I don't think that was the plan, agreed, Yeah, 1425 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 4: I think you did it once, Like second, third, and 1426 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 4: fourth down are like, now you need to try to 1427 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 4: score on second starting on second right, but on first down, 1428 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 4: like why not? Like you, I don't understand because it's hard, 1429 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 4: but you still. 1430 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Have three more downs. 1431 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 2: You have it, right, you have it in your mind. 1432 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 2: It's four downs. We're going to do this on four downs. 1433 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 4: Or even two downs, like even if you're going to 1434 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 4: kick the field goal on fourth down, like, you still 1435 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 4: have two more plays from the one yard line. If 1436 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 4: you can't score in three plays on the one yard line, 1437 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 4: then you stink like that. 1438 01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,360 Speaker 1: That's that's what they don't stink. But it came really clothed. 1439 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: They came in an unbelievable catch away from not scoring 1440 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 1: on four months right. Yeah, it's one of the best 1441 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 1: catches of the season. They flirted a little bit too 1442 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: close to this, and I don't think the I think 1443 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 1: the other team was trying to keep them out and 1444 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 1: it's hard distinct. 1445 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 8: Thing was a. 1446 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 4: Dante Scarneckia thing. If you can't get one yard, no, 1447 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 4: I don't need that's a hard yard to get. 1448 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 10: I just. 1449 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm not expecting to see that this year. I'm not 1450 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: expecting to see that again this year too. 1451 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 2: Cute. 1452 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. 1453 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean what it made me think about though, is 1454 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: not necessarily this game. 1455 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 6: But if that's Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen and this 1456 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 6: is a playoff game and you're saying we can't give 1457 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 6: the ball back to these guys, you know, that's where 1458 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 6: I kind of start to live where teams score if 1459 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 6: there's twenty seconds left, there's a chance they're getting I. 1460 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 5: Think it makes a big difference to the end of. 1461 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 1: Want to score because I have the other team that 1462 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,919 Speaker 1: I respect their ability to score, so I need to score. 1463 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 6: But is it we're taking an extra step to say 1464 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 6: we're not only going to score, but we got to 1465 01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 6: make sure that we do everything we can to not 1466 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 6: lead this guy enough time to exactly. 1467 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 1: I disagree. 1468 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 4: I mean, they had it totally perfectly set up, Like 1469 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 4: de Deuce's point. They what Kensey scored in what twelve 1470 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 4: seconds against Buffalo in the playoffs, like this is that's. 1471 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 1: A desperation situation at the end of the game where 1472 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 1: if you don't score, the season's over. They're not going 1473 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 1: to be the same kind of urgency at the end 1474 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:18,439 Speaker 1: of a half. 1475 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 4: I think if they got the ball, if they score 1476 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 4: on first down, I think there would have been like 1477 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 4: a minute left. 1478 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 1: Oh sure, that's different if if you scored. But I 1479 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: don't know why. It's okay if we're down ten to 1480 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 1: seven at the half, but not okay if we're down 1481 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 1: seventeen fourteen at the half, Like if we go in 1482 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: and score and make it fourteen ten. The worst that 1483 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 1: could have happened is you left them too much time 1484 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 1: and they got on score a touchdown. But they were 1485 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 1: content to only be up, be down ten to seven 1486 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,840 Speaker 1: because they didn't really care if they scored or not. 1487 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 1: They just wanted to get the clock running. 1488 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1489 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 1490 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 2: I don't think that's fair to say. I think they 1491 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,440 Speaker 2: were just being a little risky there. 1492 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 1: I think that was too I can't do this. I'm out. 1493 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 2: I'm out. What it's analysis, it's fair analysis. You don't 1494 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 2: have to agree with every call. 1495 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 1: Not here, it's not. Oh, it's unnecessarily objective. 1496 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 5: No, listen. 1497 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 2: Santo has the Good and bads for Drake May. We 1498 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 2: want objectivity, here we go, says the Good. May continues 1499 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 2: to hit his targets at an unbelievable rate lower than 1500 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 2: his average. The bad may floats the ball in the rain. 1501 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 2: I wonder if the coaches are preparing Drake for the 1502 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 2: bad weather a practice. I have some concerns. 1503 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: Well, here comes. Do you agree? 1504 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 3: I I. 1505 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 1: This is a cause and effect thing. I agree that 1506 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 1: the first few passes of the game were floated. I'm 1507 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 1: not necessarily telling you it's because of the rain. I've 1508 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 1: seen him do this early in games behind you Pars, Okay, 1509 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that that's why. Tony Romo said 1510 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 1: he is struggling throwing the ball in the rain. He 1511 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 1: knows a hell of a lot more about quarterback player 1512 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: than I will ever talk about. 1513 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 2: His Well, he was struggling and it was raining, so 1514 01:06:59,040 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 2: you know, he's kind of. 1515 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 1: Under the ball a little bit. I just think the 1516 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 1: point you made is we've seen that before. He's a 1517 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 1: little high. Come out, he's a little high. I mean, 1518 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 1: that's early in the times. 1519 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 2: It's a thing we talked about the ugly Drake's interception 1520 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:10,919 Speaker 2: in the end zone. 1521 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 5: Most concerning Drake got hit in the head just a 1522 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 5: few minutes earlier. 1523 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm so worried about his health and now and now 1524 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 2: the great Drake had to deal with a rather poor 1525 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 2: running game minus two super runs throwing against the top defense. 1526 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 2: I do not care what his rating is in this game. 1527 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,680 Speaker 2: This is clearly an MVP move. Stanford has plenty of 1528 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 2: targets and a better O line. I wish I had 1529 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:37,720 Speaker 2: a vote. Stafford wrote, literally, he had a PhD, so 1530 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 2: I didn't know if he went to Stanford, and it 1531 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,560 Speaker 2: was just relating to his school. 1532 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 4: But all right, how Paul feels about talking about the 1533 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 4: end of the half is how I feel about talking 1534 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 4: about Tony Romo. Like, I'm just not going to do 1535 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 4: it today. But I thought that he did you listen to. 1536 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 1: That's exactly it like, and I don't have to. 1537 01:07:59,640 --> 01:07:59,920 Speaker 11: I was. 1538 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: I was pissed about this for like two days, but 1539 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 1: like this is like you were listening to him. It 1540 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 1: was as mad at that as it was nationally. This is, oh, 1541 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. 1542 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 4: It's so like, okay, so you you haven't you haven't 1543 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,200 Speaker 4: been on this on a Drake may game ever, you've 1544 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 4: never called him. And then you go on the broadcast 1545 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 4: and you have all these opinions about his throwing motion 1546 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 4: and the rain and this that the other thing, and 1547 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 4: then you tell people that he can't throw the ball 1548 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 4: in the rain because you have never seen him throw 1549 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 4: the ball in the rain. 1550 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:31,879 Speaker 1: Exactly. 1551 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 4: This is the first time you're watching him ever throw 1552 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,880 Speaker 4: the ball in the rain, period, because you've never seen 1553 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 4: him play in person. 1554 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 2: If he had. 1555 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 1: Decided to, I don't know, maybe watch all of the 1556 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,840 Speaker 1: games this year, he would have seen another one in 1557 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 1: the rain where he didn't throw that in the rain, 1558 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 1: he would have had more ammunition. But evidently that was 1559 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 1: the first time you ever saw him throw in the rain. 1560 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 4: And so he says this, it's the first time I've 1561 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,360 Speaker 4: ever seen him throw in the rain. It says, the 1562 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 4: first time you've ever seen him throw, period, Tony, you've 1563 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:56,840 Speaker 4: never called one of. 1564 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 1: His games before. 1565 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 4: So if you knew, like Paul said, that every once 1566 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 4: in a while he's a little jacked up and he 1567 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,680 Speaker 4: comes out and he airmails him throws early on in 1568 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 4: the game, and then he settles into the game and 1569 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,280 Speaker 4: he usually throws the ball. Well, then if you knew that, 1570 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 4: then maybe you wouldn't make a big deal out of this, 1571 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 4: so I don't have to spend two freaking days listening. 1572 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,040 Speaker 1: Well, is it a concern that he throws the ball 1573 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 1: well in the rain is going to be you know Evan, 1574 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,639 Speaker 1: Like Tony Romo said, Yeah, Tony. 1575 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,720 Speaker 2: I noticed after the game, Nance was up in the 1576 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,160 Speaker 2: press box, you know, passing through, and he had a 1577 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 2: big entourage with him. 1578 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 5: Romo wasn't with him. No, he must have left separately. 1579 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 4: Not all of us can play in domes our entire career, 1580 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 4: Tony roll, Why don't you go. 1581 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,160 Speaker 1: Work on holding extra points? 1582 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 2: Person? 1583 01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 6: So did you actually listen to Hi during the game, 1584 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,560 Speaker 6: or is this all retroactive? 1585 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,880 Speaker 1: You're hearing the retroactor because it's you. 1586 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 4: What it is is It's like I'm sitting there, I'm 1587 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 4: not watching the broadcast, right, That's I know. 1588 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm very lucky. I get to be at the games. 1589 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:02,600 Speaker 1: I got it. 1590 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 4: I'm not watching the broadcast. But then my mentions are 1591 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 4: just flooded with these narratives that are just coming out 1592 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 4: of nowhere to me, like I have no on the bad, right, 1593 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,360 Speaker 4: I have no idea what anybody's talking about. So finally, 1594 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 4: you know, there was a throw to Hunter Henry that 1595 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,679 Speaker 4: they were they were on different pages, you know, Hunter 1596 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,880 Speaker 4: Henry sat Drake May thought he was going to break 1597 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 4: he sat whatever, and then Tony Romo is saying it's 1598 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,799 Speaker 4: Hunter Henry's fault, and I'm just getting oh, Hunter Henry 1599 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 4: bad route, and I'm. 1600 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 1: Like, who's this and it's Tony freaking Rome. 1601 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a break, but before we do one 1602 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 2: more email Ford and Savannah Georgia emailer on emailer complaint, Travis, 1603 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 2: leave Alex alone. 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We'll try to do our best 1660 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 8: with the injury report. We'll see what he's able to do. 1661 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,320 Speaker 8: I would say the same with all those guys that 1662 01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 8: weren't out, weren't available for the game yesterday. I think 1663 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 8: that they're working extremely hard and I think that they 1664 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:52,840 Speaker 8: you know, we'll see what they can do with the 1665 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,560 Speaker 8: walk through. They'll probably do a little bit more, and 1666 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 8: then we'll try to evaluate so we can make some 1667 01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 8: decisions for the game, like. 1668 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 1: Tall once yesterday. I'm just wondering how you felt he 1669 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,320 Speaker 1: managed those situations where he was pressured. 1670 01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 8: I thought, well, and I think you see him pull 1671 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,120 Speaker 8: through there with two hands on the football, you know, 1672 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 8: and then complete a pass. I thought that was really cool, 1673 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 8: big play for us, being able to take care of 1674 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,120 Speaker 8: football but then also be able to extend and find 1675 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,599 Speaker 8: and get a conversion for us, you know. I think 1676 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:33,439 Speaker 8: it always can be better, you know, But I thought 1677 01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,200 Speaker 8: we gave ourselves a chance and protection, and there was 1678 01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,599 Speaker 8: a couple of times where you know, the pressure got 1679 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,559 Speaker 8: to us. So we'll keep working on it. We'll keep 1680 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 8: you know, talking to Drake and then allowing him to extend, 1681 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 8: but also be being smart when he does extend. 1682 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,840 Speaker 1: Drives outsensive drives in the third quarter. Roc the last 1683 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 1: six or seven weeks, you guys have had a good 1684 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 1: success in each one of them. 1685 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 8: Are there any commonalities undertaining that every game is? 1686 01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 1: Definitely, but are there any commonalities when you are able 1687 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,080 Speaker 1: to successful? 1688 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,679 Speaker 8: Yesterday is a little different, just because the X play. 1689 01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,040 Speaker 8: I think just trying to get into a rhythm for 1690 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,400 Speaker 8: us is probably always key. It's like a lot of offenses. 1691 01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,519 Speaker 8: Is trying to get into a rhythm and have a 1692 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,560 Speaker 8: flow to you that allows you to you know, mixed packages, 1693 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:22,400 Speaker 8: mix plays. You know, show looks, compliment looks that you showed, 1694 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 8: so I think that's important, or just hit a big 1695 01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:27,320 Speaker 8: play that that helps too. 1696 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,439 Speaker 1: How important is self scouting at this point in the 1697 01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,599 Speaker 1: season and is it harder when you've got so long 1698 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,679 Speaker 1: that out of buy and obviously they want a short week. 1699 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:36,760 Speaker 8: I think we're always trying to figure out what other 1700 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 8: teams are looking at, seeing what works, and making sure 1701 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 8: that our players understand that that there's going to be 1702 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:49,040 Speaker 8: things that that people are going to do and when 1703 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,800 Speaker 8: you see it on tape. He didn't take somebody to 1704 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,720 Speaker 8: be that creative to say, hey we should try this. 1705 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,599 Speaker 8: So you have to learn from the things that you're 1706 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,800 Speaker 8: seeing and be ready to anticipate, you know, things there's 1707 01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,680 Speaker 8: you want to turn into a completely game plan and 1708 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,680 Speaker 8: team and change things. You want to do things that 1709 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 8: your players are comfortable with and understand, but then know 1710 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,800 Speaker 8: what that comes. You know, some things that you're going 1711 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 8: to have to defend based on the fact that you 1712 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,280 Speaker 8: are in certain coverages or you're in you know, certain 1713 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,760 Speaker 8: play you and run certain plays offensively, which is fine. 1714 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,439 Speaker 8: There has to be a good balance, uh to that. 1715 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,320 Speaker 8: You don't want to just make stuff up every week. 1716 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 1: Like if you learn anything about the short week, either 1717 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,599 Speaker 1: as a player or a coach, that kind of gives 1718 01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 1: you an idea of what's best for your team, uh. 1719 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,560 Speaker 8: Because each one different is man, I think you just 1720 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 8: instead of just running around here telling everybody it's Thursday, 1721 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 8: that's about it. It's about all you can do. And 1722 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:46,600 Speaker 8: I've tried to do that to the best of my 1723 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:51,879 Speaker 8: ability so far. Today. Just try to get physically recovered 1724 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 8: the best that we can. Tough game on the road. 1725 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 8: So we'll try to do that, and then just keep 1726 01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 8: in mind everybody it's Thursday. They believe it. I don't 1727 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 8: you have to ask them. 1728 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 1: I feel like prectic seasons started. 1729 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,720 Speaker 8: I'm just curious what you see from this groove and 1730 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 8: furiously a little good physicality. Well, I think he's comfortable. 1731 01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:19,560 Speaker 8: I think he's, you know, again, been able to been available, 1732 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 8: which is really important. Finding some ball production, you know, 1733 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,479 Speaker 8: I mean breaking the passes up. They made a really 1734 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,439 Speaker 8: good play on him yesterday in the end zone, which 1735 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,160 Speaker 8: was you know, I was asking, hey, did he look back. 1736 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,360 Speaker 8: Did he go with the wrong hand, you know, guys 1737 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,040 Speaker 8: upstairs and are like, no, he didn't look back and 1738 01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 8: it's perfect ball and then beat him in the end zone. 1739 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,839 Speaker 8: So but I think you see him becoming more comfortable 1740 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 8: and willing to to trigger and tackling in this league 1741 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,960 Speaker 8: so critical of the back end to eliminate you know, 1742 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,439 Speaker 8: those big plays in the running game or short passes, 1743 01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,360 Speaker 8: and you know they've done a good job of that. 1744 01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 1: He mentioned after the game that he tries to prepare 1745 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,559 Speaker 1: every week like he is a starter. 1746 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 16: I'm curious if that's something you've noticed from him during practice, 1747 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,200 Speaker 16: just the way that he has. 1748 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,280 Speaker 2: Been preparing this season. 1749 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:13,920 Speaker 8: I mean, I think so, I hope so. I mean 1750 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 8: that's what we ask of all the players, and I 1751 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,280 Speaker 8: think that you know, Kyle is a good mixture of 1752 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,760 Speaker 8: getting some reps with our offense and also working on 1753 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,760 Speaker 8: the show team to be able to improve that way 1754 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 8: and work and develop. So anything that he can do 1755 01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,720 Speaker 8: and we can do to help them get ready for 1756 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,120 Speaker 8: the game and gain confidence and those types of things. 1757 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 8: And I'm all for on sidekick there as perfectly executed 1758 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,760 Speaker 8: with Diggs and in any way an adjustment to a 1759 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:51,240 Speaker 8: couple of weeks ago when another team got well, you know, 1760 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,080 Speaker 8: I mean you have to determine what they're going to do, 1761 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 8: you know, trying to figure out what they're going to do, 1762 01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 8: you know, the different types of kicks and the locations, 1763 01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 8: and you don't have so many people to work with 1764 01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,080 Speaker 8: at the line of scrimmage where you can allocate bodies. 1765 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 8: So that was a huge recovery. Great play by a 1766 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 8: player that we trust, and we have to try to 1767 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 8: go and protect him. That's something that we always talk about, 1768 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,559 Speaker 8: So try to get as many bodies as we can 1769 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 8: in front of them, and you know we didn't. It's 1770 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 8: hard to get them all blocked, especially with a good 1771 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,960 Speaker 8: kick like that, and Digsy went up and was able 1772 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:28,519 Speaker 8: to secure it. 1773 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,120 Speaker 1: Like Court Garden has brought the teams it's got. 1774 01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,160 Speaker 8: I think he's excited about playing. I think he brings 1775 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,640 Speaker 8: a good size, good physicality, good energy. It seems like 1776 01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 8: he's always, you know, excited after every player or the 1777 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,200 Speaker 8: plays that he's involved with. So I think he's one 1778 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,080 Speaker 8: of those players. It's like a lot of guys taking 1779 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,280 Speaker 8: advantage of the opportunity that he's gotten. And you know, 1780 01:19:56,360 --> 01:20:00,720 Speaker 8: well somewhere else and they made a decision. We were 1781 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 8: able to bring him in and quickly elevate him and 1782 01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,280 Speaker 8: bring him on, and he's done a good job. 1783 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,719 Speaker 16: What's it out to you about working with Bett Hollins? 1784 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,679 Speaker 8: What's it like or what's it mean? I'm sorry? 1785 01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 1: What you what's out to you about working them? 1786 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 15: Uh? 1787 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,680 Speaker 8: So far from the time that I've met him till now. Oh, 1788 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,760 Speaker 8: you know, I think just mackett. I I appreciate his professionalism. 1789 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,840 Speaker 8: I think at uh you know, don't don't judge a 1790 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:30,800 Speaker 8: book by its cover. 1791 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:31,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 1792 01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,559 Speaker 8: You know. He walks around like and see no man 1793 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,000 Speaker 8: and but he's but he's smart, he's easy to talk to, 1794 01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:42,320 Speaker 8: enjoy our conversations, great family. I was able to see 1795 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:46,519 Speaker 8: his family yesterday after the game, so that was fun. 1796 01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 8: I think he's a good leader. I think he does 1797 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:56,200 Speaker 8: a lot of different things for us, and I like 1798 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,639 Speaker 8: having a meter, like are you a film on the plane? 1799 01:20:59,680 --> 01:20:59,880 Speaker 10: Guy? 1800 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,160 Speaker 1: Does any of your routine change? Coming into a short 1801 01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:03,639 Speaker 1: week here. 1802 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 8: We tried to move on to the Jets as as 1803 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 8: quickly as possible. You know, I think everybody was trying 1804 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,600 Speaker 8: to move ahead as quickly as possible, whether that be 1805 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,880 Speaker 8: some of the players or or the coaches. So that 1806 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,360 Speaker 8: was something that we did. And again, we're lucky to 1807 01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:23,639 Speaker 8: have a fantastic video staff, great department that works well 1808 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,840 Speaker 8: with the coaches and provides us with everything that we 1809 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,800 Speaker 8: need and Teddy and Jared and his crew, and so 1810 01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 8: just thankful that those guys are always ready to go. 1811 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:40,479 Speaker 1: And now great moments in history. The girl talking about 1812 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 1: what's what's the update, what's the update? Diana, let me 1813 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, we should probably take a break so we 1814 01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,879 Speaker 1: can hear this breaking news. Her talking about Doug Marron's 1815 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 1: job right like her jumpsuit, she looks good. 1816 01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:56,920 Speaker 2: I'm glad. 1817 01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 5: I'm glad we have female representation. 1818 01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, furthering women in sports for generations to come. I 1819 01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,160 Speaker 1: like that's another great moment. 1820 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,400 Speaker 5: All right, back camera. Patriots Unfiltered at eight five to five. 1821 01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 2: PATS five hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot 1822 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,720 Speaker 2: com as the email address. A lot of people have 1823 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,040 Speaker 2: comments on the topic that we closed the first half 1824 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,760 Speaker 2: of the show on whether or not they should have 1825 01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,519 Speaker 2: wasted that down at the end of the half. Alan 1826 01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,480 Speaker 2: in North Carolina and Tony. 1827 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,400 Speaker 5: And where's Tony from? Uh from the UK both agree 1828 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,160 Speaker 5: that it was a sign. 1829 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:40,360 Speaker 2: Of confidence in the team that he did that believes 1830 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,800 Speaker 2: I agree. So he had confidence that they were going 1831 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,400 Speaker 2: to get the job done and run time off the clock. 1832 01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 5: So and I agree ultimately he was right. 1833 01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:52,600 Speaker 1: This would be a great time for you to do that. 1834 01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,479 Speaker 6: Read confidence, have some that we have one of those 1835 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:56,360 Speaker 6: confidence reads. 1836 01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:01,720 Speaker 2: Well, I will say though, masa down down where I live, 1837 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:03,679 Speaker 2: I have reports of snow. 1838 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,960 Speaker 1: Oh really ate Oh a little chili this morning had 1839 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:08,560 Speaker 1: a double. 1840 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah two and this month celebrate Veterans Day with a 1841 01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:18,080 Speaker 2: new snow blower. 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Matt's hurting a little bit today after yesterday. 1852 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:50,760 Speaker 1: He was hanging in there. He's playing hurt. 1853 01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:52,400 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, what happened? 1854 01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 1: Self inflicted? 1855 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:54,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a little bit. 1856 01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:57,360 Speaker 1: More than that, dude. 1857 01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:59,599 Speaker 6: You know, Matt, they like him and his brother locked 1858 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,800 Speaker 6: themselves in a basement and they drink and fight each 1859 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:02,800 Speaker 6: other for like twelve hours. 1860 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:03,400 Speaker 1: Is that about right? 1861 01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:03,479 Speaker 2: Mat? 1862 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:05,960 Speaker 1: We had actually two extra marines with us this year, 1863 01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:11,640 Speaker 1: So I four marines fighting each other. Who love it? 1864 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:18,680 Speaker 1: Not a fireball? Fireball? Early too well? He was in 1865 01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:20,880 Speaker 1: like a little after eight because there was no traffic 1866 01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:28,679 Speaker 1: Temple holiday. Yeah, let's get back to the phones. 1867 01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,120 Speaker 2: Uh, they are stacked. We'll go to Randy in Providence. 1868 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:32,880 Speaker 2: What's up, Randy? 1869 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:34,040 Speaker 1: Randy? 1870 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:36,320 Speaker 17: Hey, how's girling? Right? 1871 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:37,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Randy Watson. 1872 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,519 Speaker 17: I so I have two questions for you guys. Number 1873 01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:49,040 Speaker 17: one about the edge depth, because Landrys, do you guys 1874 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,920 Speaker 17: think he's fully healthy? It's been three games without a fact, 1875 01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,400 Speaker 17: the last one of them was in Tennessee and he 1876 01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,360 Speaker 17: had that turned ankle in there. I don't know if 1877 01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,920 Speaker 17: he's playing fully healthy. But what do you guys think 1878 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,439 Speaker 17: about Chason's future with this team? I mean, I feel 1879 01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:07,000 Speaker 17: like he's at a point where he's probably locked in 1880 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:08,960 Speaker 17: a multi year extension at the end of the year. 1881 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,360 Speaker 1: Do you guys agree he's playing that way. 1882 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 4: I just think it's going to get expensive if he 1883 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,680 Speaker 4: keeps on this trajectory. So I'm interested to see what 1884 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,880 Speaker 4: they what they think about that. You know, former first 1885 01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:23,719 Speaker 4: round pick who's really stacked two years of good football 1886 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,479 Speaker 4: in a row now, because he had a decent year 1887 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,200 Speaker 4: last year with the Raiders too. So if he gets 1888 01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,400 Speaker 4: the double digit sacks and two straight years a pretty 1889 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 4: good production, I think he's going to get paid a 1890 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:33,600 Speaker 4: little bit. 1891 01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 6: So coupled with Landry maybe fading Yeah, no, it does 1892 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:38,400 Speaker 6: Landry turn it around. 1893 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,040 Speaker 1: You know, they have Landry support it. 1894 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,760 Speaker 6: But if you know, if they realistically think that maybe 1895 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,320 Speaker 6: this is just Landry's fading out, then maybe you got 1896 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,040 Speaker 6: to make a move for Chase on to at least 1897 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:49,280 Speaker 6: solidify one of those spots. 1898 01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,559 Speaker 17: And we saw a Ponder start to produce a little 1899 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,479 Speaker 17: bit in this game, and I wonder if he becomes 1900 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,280 Speaker 17: a more key piece of the rotation as the second 1901 01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 17: half of the season plays out. 1902 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:00,720 Speaker 12: Yeah, there's one more. 1903 01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,560 Speaker 17: Quick question for you guys. I know you guys have 1904 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,479 Speaker 17: talked about kind of slow starting for Drake in terms 1905 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,040 Speaker 17: of like miss throws and stuff in the first quarters 1906 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,080 Speaker 17: and I was kind of looking at the numbers, and 1907 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:16,599 Speaker 17: two numbers kind of popped out to me. Scoring by 1908 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:22,479 Speaker 17: quarter in the first, second, and third quarter, we are sixth, fifth, 1909 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,760 Speaker 17: and fifth, respectively. In the fourth quarter, we're twenty ninth 1910 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 17: in the league, just four point six points per game 1911 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:33,160 Speaker 17: per quarter. On the flip side of that, the defense 1912 01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,280 Speaker 17: twenty sixth in the first quarter, letting out five point 1913 01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:41,240 Speaker 17: seven points per quarter, but the second, third, and fourth 1914 01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 17: quarters are second, second, and eleventh, respectively. 1915 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:45,160 Speaker 15: So like by the. 1916 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:49,479 Speaker 17: Numbers, the defense is kind of a slow start, and 1917 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,080 Speaker 17: yet the offense seems to stay down the stretch. I 1918 01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,400 Speaker 17: wonder what you guys make of those numbers. I'll just 1919 01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:55,200 Speaker 17: hang up and listen. 1920 01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:56,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks, Randy. 1921 01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,760 Speaker 1: I actually think it's you know, I'm just looking at 1922 01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,000 Speaker 1: the numbers as you are saying them. I think it's 1923 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,519 Speaker 1: that middle of the game that they're dominating. Second and 1924 01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,080 Speaker 1: third quarters I think have been pretty good. And I 1925 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,559 Speaker 1: would check up the lack of points in the fourth 1926 01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,200 Speaker 1: quarters because you're in the generally you've had the lead 1927 01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,720 Speaker 1: and you don't need to score. The slow starts are 1928 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 1: pretty self evident. They've given up a lot of first 1929 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:24,600 Speaker 1: drive scores, you know, more than you'd like. But the 1930 01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,800 Speaker 1: fourth quarter the other team has been able to score 1931 01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,639 Speaker 1: as well. It's the middle there, you know, like twenty 1932 01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,920 Speaker 1: nine points in the third quarter. The Bucks scored a 1933 01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:33,600 Speaker 1: touchdown in the third quarter. I want to say it 1934 01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:35,639 Speaker 1: was like the first one in like four weeks, first 1935 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,439 Speaker 1: points all out in the third quarter in a while. 1936 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,320 Speaker 1: I know Atlanta and Cleveland didn't score, and those are 1937 01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,840 Speaker 1: the two most recent games, right, yep, So it's been 1938 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,960 Speaker 1: a while since they've given up third quarter points. I 1939 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,040 Speaker 1: think that's where they're really controlling the game. And a 1940 01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,960 Speaker 1: lot of it is they've been fortunate with the deferring. 1941 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,519 Speaker 1: They're winning the coin tosses and getting the defer and 1942 01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,720 Speaker 1: they're doubling up they're getting so that takes a lot 1943 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:03,439 Speaker 1: of that time a coin toss man. But that's like, 1944 01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,240 Speaker 1: it's so true. It's such an underrated part of the game. 1945 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,000 Speaker 1: And that's why I never understand why anybody would ever 1946 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,360 Speaker 1: choose to get the ball at the beginning of the game, 1947 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,160 Speaker 1: because that is such a To score twice in a 1948 01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 1: row is such an advantage, and they've done it now. 1949 01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:23,760 Speaker 1: I think they did it. Cleveland, Tennessee double dip back 1950 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:24,960 Speaker 1: in this game. 1951 01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,679 Speaker 4: They only tick the field goal in New Orleans. 1952 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:29,479 Speaker 1: No, it's not always touchdown. Touchdown. 1953 01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:30,120 Speaker 3: This game was. 1954 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,200 Speaker 4: Touchdown, one of them they only get. Yeah, they so 1955 01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,640 Speaker 4: Cleveland was a field goal touchdown. Baker Mayfield leaves the 1956 01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,240 Speaker 4: field in the second quarter with a ten to seven lead. 1957 01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,400 Speaker 4: The next time he touches the ball, it's twenty one 1958 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:42,600 Speaker 4: to ten Patriots. 1959 01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,240 Speaker 1: And that's just the old Belichick no turn, no stops, 1960 01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 1: nothing like. They just got the ball twice in a row. 1961 01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:53,800 Speaker 1: And if you defer, you give yourself that chance where 1962 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 1: you can you can score at the end of the 1963 01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,439 Speaker 1: half and then get the ball to start the second half. 1964 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,479 Speaker 1: And I think that's a tremendous advantage. 1965 01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, they weren't doing it very well at the beginning 1966 01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,400 Speaker 4: of the year either, and it was something that was 1967 01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,760 Speaker 4: standing out that they weren't controlling the middle eight and 1968 01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:08,840 Speaker 4: then the middle AG's the last four minutes of the 1969 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,920 Speaker 4: first half, in the first four minutes of the third quarter, 1970 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:15,599 Speaker 4: you can double dip and basically put the game away. 1971 01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,280 Speaker 4: And they used to do it, you know, the Brady 1972 01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,840 Speaker 4: Patriots used to do it like every week. But this 1973 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,680 Speaker 4: team is starting to do it a lot more and 1974 01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,080 Speaker 4: they're like automatic on the coin toss. I think they've 1975 01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,080 Speaker 4: won like eight out of ten coin tosses or something 1976 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:31,160 Speaker 4: like that. It's like something crazy like that. So they've 1977 01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:32,400 Speaker 4: done a really nice job in that. 1978 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,920 Speaker 2: Peter in the Netherlands has a good email about Evan xenophobia, 1979 01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,320 Speaker 2: but I'm going to save it for the newsletter. 1980 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:43,439 Speaker 4: I said, I don't know, Alex so with xenophobia of aliens, 1981 01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:45,240 Speaker 4: I'm afraid of aliens. 1982 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,920 Speaker 5: It's kind of a fear of people from other country 1983 01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:49,200 Speaker 5: owners foreigners. 1984 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking a xeno morph So you'll you'll 1985 01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,960 Speaker 2: understand what once you see it in the newsletter. 1986 01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:58,560 Speaker 5: I understand it has to do with your gatekeeper. 1987 01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,320 Speaker 1: Oh good. Yeah, I'm very proud of. 1988 01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:04,640 Speaker 11: You. 1989 01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,400 Speaker 4: Know, like when like it's like you make fun of 1990 01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,040 Speaker 4: your sibling relentlessly, but then if anybody else makes fun 1991 01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,519 Speaker 4: of your sibling, then your back gets up. That's how 1992 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:14,559 Speaker 4: I feel about Drake May. 1993 01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,480 Speaker 5: But I criticize. 1994 01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:21,920 Speaker 4: No, No, everybody's sitting in the swim can criticize. Everybody 1995 01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,439 Speaker 4: in the swim can criticize because we all and we're 1996 01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,760 Speaker 4: all around him at least a decent amount. We all 1997 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,400 Speaker 4: watch him play every single game. You know, these people 1998 01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,880 Speaker 4: that parachute in and watch one game in one quarter. 1999 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:39,000 Speaker 2: You're going to have to share him. No, it's not yours, 2000 01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:40,760 Speaker 2: you're going to have to share. 2001 01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:47,200 Speaker 4: I critique him, you know, all the time, but I 2002 01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,720 Speaker 4: come from a place of watching him every single week 2003 01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 4: and watching him make every single throw of his NFL 2004 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,400 Speaker 4: career so far. And then you know, you have these 2005 01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,360 Speaker 4: national people or Tony Romo, who's. 2006 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,519 Speaker 5: Coming out of dollars to give their opinion, and I 2007 01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:02,200 Speaker 5: don't want them. 2008 01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:03,600 Speaker 1: To do it, No, I just want them to be 2009 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:04,519 Speaker 1: educated when they do. 2010 01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,680 Speaker 6: Brother, that's it better come correct and you come to Evan, yeah, 2011 01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,920 Speaker 6: or you know, I'm gonna let you hear about it. 2012 01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,960 Speaker 4: Like I could sit here and say that that interception 2013 01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:17,840 Speaker 4: was clearly can't have it, like they absolutely just cannot 2014 01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:18,200 Speaker 4: have that. 2015 01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,560 Speaker 5: But but Tony Romo cannot say that. 2016 01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,920 Speaker 4: And Tony Romo can't say, after three passes that he's 2017 01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,360 Speaker 4: seen Drake may throw ever in his life, that he 2018 01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:27,679 Speaker 4: can't throw the ball in the rain. 2019 01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:31,240 Speaker 7: And it's more protective of Drake than Drake's three brothers 2020 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:32,840 Speaker 7: older brothers are of him. 2021 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:34,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. 2022 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:37,080 Speaker 5: I don't know them keep defending that wall. 2023 01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:40,760 Speaker 7: Well until I hear Luke publicly calling out Tony Romo 2024 01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:41,519 Speaker 7: like you'll. 2025 01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:41,760 Speaker 2: Do it for you. 2026 01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,719 Speaker 5: You're like, you're like the equivalent of a SWIFTYE for Drake. 2027 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,280 Speaker 5: May you know, don't come after my quarterback. 2028 01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:50,800 Speaker 15: I don't know. 2029 01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,080 Speaker 2: I love it, I said swiftly. You keep you keep 2030 01:31:55,120 --> 01:32:00,400 Speaker 2: defending that wall. You go, Shakari writ sin she says, 2031 01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,200 Speaker 2: or he says, I'm not sure. Mike is my favorite 2032 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,040 Speaker 2: to listen. I was wondering, what is your take on 2033 01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 2: Gronk's press conference tomorrow? Oh, so Gronk is having a 2034 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,559 Speaker 2: press conference to announce he's retiring as a Patriot. Seems 2035 01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,160 Speaker 2: a little It'll be at twelve fifteen during the show. 2036 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,800 Speaker 1: You have some info on that can actually right? 2037 01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:23,360 Speaker 7: I'm random, however, So if you guys know, Gronk opened 2038 01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:27,679 Speaker 7: up a playground this year in Boston, proper, and there's 2039 01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,880 Speaker 7: a woman named Susan Hurley who really helped him out 2040 01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,960 Speaker 7: with that. She's actually a former Patriots cheerleader, but she 2041 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,640 Speaker 7: started a nonprofit called I Believe It's Charity Teams. She 2042 01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:40,719 Speaker 7: would work with like the Bill Belichick Foundation, the Patriots 2043 01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:44,800 Speaker 7: Foundation to help their marathon teams raise money. Gronk and 2044 01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:48,439 Speaker 7: her were incredibly close, and she was a huge driving 2045 01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:54,040 Speaker 7: force behind the Gronk playground. Unfortunately, she passed away from 2046 01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:58,880 Speaker 7: cancer on November first, and essentially the last time her 2047 01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:03,120 Speaker 7: and Gronk were together was the playground unveiling and Susan 2048 01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,040 Speaker 7: spoke at a podium with a bunch of media and 2049 01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,960 Speaker 7: children that were about to break ground on the playground, 2050 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,000 Speaker 7: and in her speech, she looked over to mister Kraft, 2051 01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,000 Speaker 7: who was there as well, and said, mister Kraft, what 2052 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,360 Speaker 7: do you say, Like, let's make Gronk a patriot for life, 2053 01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,639 Speaker 7: Like let's sign the one day contract and get this done. 2054 01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,120 Speaker 7: And Robert Kraft gave her the thumbs up. So the 2055 01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,160 Speaker 7: hope was that she would be here for this, and. 2056 01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,320 Speaker 5: Unfortunately she'll be here in spirit. 2057 01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:28,720 Speaker 15: Yeah. 2058 01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, great woman, like unbelievable woman. 2059 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:34,840 Speaker 6: At the time, he does feel random, But I just 2060 01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:37,439 Speaker 6: use to get Rob Gronkowski back in this building, and 2061 01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:38,519 Speaker 6: she's just the best. 2062 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,280 Speaker 5: Not every player does that. Why do you think Gronkowski 2063 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:42,880 Speaker 5: wants to do. 2064 01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,679 Speaker 1: This because of the story. 2065 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,040 Speaker 7: I think diving force for it. 2066 01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:50,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, you think that. 2067 01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,800 Speaker 1: It was almost like a I didn't think of that. 2068 01:33:55,240 --> 01:34:00,280 Speaker 1: This woman was really powerful influence on Gronk. Okay, yeah, 2069 01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:01,559 Speaker 1: like they were incredibly close. 2070 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:06,000 Speaker 7: She gave a speech at this groundbreaking ceremony. Gronk cried 2071 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,600 Speaker 7: at it. Oh it and like there wasn't like just 2072 01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,240 Speaker 7: talking about the journey of them working together and how hard. 2073 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:14,760 Speaker 7: And the part that I think made him cry was 2074 01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,599 Speaker 7: it's right across from a hospital, so where Gronk did 2075 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,960 Speaker 7: one of his rehabs, he looked down on this parking 2076 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:23,680 Speaker 7: lot every day and was like, wow, that'd be a 2077 01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:28,200 Speaker 7: sick spot to ramp up up playground. And then Susan, 2078 01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:31,560 Speaker 7: when she was retrieving receiving treatment for ovarian cancer, was 2079 01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,519 Speaker 7: looking down on the same playground. So that really brought 2080 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,720 Speaker 7: him to tears, and like he I've never seen Gronk cry, 2081 01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:43,599 Speaker 7: so this was really emotional. I'm sure mister Craft also 2082 01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,160 Speaker 7: would love to have him sign, but it's one of 2083 01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,439 Speaker 7: those things where unless the player goes to you and 2084 01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:53,000 Speaker 7: brings it up, it's kind of an awkward thing. Like 2085 01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:54,599 Speaker 7: I don't think mister Krafft wants to be like, hey, 2086 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:56,439 Speaker 7: do you want to retire a Patriot? But when you 2087 01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:00,400 Speaker 7: have those three forces mister Kraft, Susan Hurley, and all 2088 01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,479 Speaker 7: together in one place, it was kind of just like. 2089 01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. 2090 01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:06,680 Speaker 6: And very likely the Hall of Fame guy next year 2091 01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,600 Speaker 6: for Patriots Hall of Fame, right, Like he's going to 2092 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:11,800 Speaker 6: be eligible, so that'll be a party too. 2093 01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,240 Speaker 1: So very cool playground. I drive by it quite a 2094 01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:15,040 Speaker 1: bit and it's awesome. 2095 01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I say Strow funny apparently, but it's on stro 2096 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:22,160 Speaker 4: Drive right on the water and uh yeah, it's really 2097 01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:24,479 Speaker 4: cool spot, like right on the water, like Alex said 2098 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,280 Speaker 4: it's and it's packed all the time. 2099 01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:29,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever I drive by it, there's a million. 2100 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,080 Speaker 7: Prime real estate and there's a gronks a ball being 2101 01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,760 Speaker 7: spiked that is like part of the jungle gym. 2102 01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a can see the sign right from the 2103 01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,040 Speaker 4: from the street and it's pretty cool. 2104 01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,400 Speaker 7: There's quotes from all the Boston athletes on it, like 2105 01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:47,080 Speaker 7: inspirational little messages from like Tom Brady. 2106 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,320 Speaker 5: Brady officially retired. 2107 01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,160 Speaker 1: I guess that was that big thing we did last year, right, Well, no. 2108 01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,479 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame, but he still Patriot. 2109 01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,519 Speaker 2: You have to in the NFL, there's a you know, 2110 01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,599 Speaker 2: like paperwork where you actually declare you're retired. 2111 01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:07,400 Speaker 6: Well, I mean he's an owner now too, so I 2112 01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,080 Speaker 6: don't know, I don't know. If he could come back 2113 01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 6: either way. I mean, there's a lot of paperwork seem 2114 01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:12,240 Speaker 6: like for him. 2115 01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,960 Speaker 5: To sign, because certain things kick in once you retire, 2116 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:16,280 Speaker 5: you know, you know, I. 2117 01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:20,000 Speaker 6: Have a question, just what if Bill Belichick was interested 2118 01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,080 Speaker 6: in the New York Giants job. He's you know, could 2119 01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,800 Speaker 6: very well next week be announced as the head coach 2120 01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,640 Speaker 6: candidate for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. If he 2121 01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:31,320 Speaker 6: signs with the you know, the Giants in June or January, 2122 01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,400 Speaker 6: does that take him out of the running or is 2123 01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:33,960 Speaker 6: he still. 2124 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,360 Speaker 2: Allowed to help you know, because that happened, right, yeah? 2125 01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:36,639 Speaker 15: Yeah? 2126 01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:39,440 Speaker 2: Was it the Redskins. 2127 01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,960 Speaker 1: I think Joe Gibbs was coaching as a member of 2128 01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:43,479 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. 2129 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:43,800 Speaker 2: I think so. 2130 01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,200 Speaker 4: It happens more in the NBA. It happens a lot 2131 01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,000 Speaker 4: in the NBA that guys are already in the Basketball 2132 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,559 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame that are coaching. I think Greg Popovich 2133 01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:52,880 Speaker 4: went in when he was still coaching. 2134 01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:56,960 Speaker 13: But Brady's retirement letter to the NFL and NFLPA was 2135 01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,439 Speaker 13: February first, twenty twenty three. 2136 01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:02,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so he did officially tire the second time, right, Yes, 2137 01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:03,840 Speaker 2: there's time. 2138 01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:05,840 Speaker 1: It's personal. I'm sorry, that's a different thing. 2139 01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,920 Speaker 5: Talwinder from California. You know Telwind Oh very well. 2140 01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you guys have talked about how this 2141 01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,960 Speaker 2: is the first year of Mike Rabel's program and we 2142 01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,439 Speaker 2: are too early to be making some noise in the playoffs. 2143 01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:22,120 Speaker 2: I understand the easy schedule might be playing a part 2144 01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,280 Speaker 2: in us being at eight and two, but this is 2145 01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,880 Speaker 2: the NFL. Every week is tough. Just look at the 2146 01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,919 Speaker 2: Dolphins beating the Bills this weekend, Panthers beating the Packers 2147 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,760 Speaker 2: in Green Bay last weekend. I think our team has 2148 01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:37,120 Speaker 2: something special cooking. We will be going fourteen and three 2149 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,200 Speaker 2: and getting a bye, get ready to host the AFC 2150 01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:44,360 Speaker 2: Championship game. I'll see you at Santa Clara in early February. 2151 01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,000 Speaker 4: All right, I think we're going to be seen in 2152 01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,200 Speaker 4: Santa Clara regardless, because the NFL Honors is in Santa 2153 01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:51,400 Speaker 4: Clara as well, and I'm. 2154 01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:52,759 Speaker 6: Sure the rest of the year assistent. 2155 01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:54,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and here is point. 2156 01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:56,360 Speaker 4: I don't think any of us are sitting here saying 2157 01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,320 Speaker 4: that they can't make noise in them, like the. 2158 01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:01,639 Speaker 1: Whole impression has changed. 2159 01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:02,679 Speaker 5: I think they're pretty good. 2160 01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:04,760 Speaker 1: Based on ten weeks. If you still think of it 2161 01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:08,000 Speaker 1: the way you did you know in March, then you're 2162 01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,640 Speaker 1: not watching You're not watching not only the Patriots, but 2163 01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:13,600 Speaker 1: you're not watching the other teams if not the Patriots. 2164 01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:15,800 Speaker 1: Like what what which one of the teams I wont 2165 01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,680 Speaker 1: teams in the football one of them? Last night? 2166 01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:22,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have trouble. 2167 01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,120 Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, I'm gonna sit down and wat 2168 01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:31,040 Speaker 4: Thank you, Fred, thank you, thanks for triggering. I'm not 2169 01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:32,280 Speaker 4: even gonna say what I was going to say. I 2170 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,120 Speaker 4: want to that, but just not paying attention to the league. 2171 01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:37,920 Speaker 1: If you still think that, well, the Patriots are a 2172 01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,160 Speaker 1: nice little story, but they can't make any noise. Of course, 2173 01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,680 Speaker 1: they can make noise. There's no teams that are out 2174 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,240 Speaker 1: there playing great football. There were I would say a 2175 01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,080 Speaker 1: half dozen or so good teams, maybe ten good teams. 2176 01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:52,800 Speaker 1: But I don't look at anybody as saying like, there's 2177 01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,799 Speaker 1: no way the Patriots can match up and play against 2178 01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:59,160 Speaker 1: Kansas City or Seattle or you know, the Rams whoever. 2179 01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:01,599 Speaker 1: I don't don't look at any of these teams that way. 2180 01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:04,639 Speaker 4: There's a couple of things. I had my grievances. Let's 2181 01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:05,320 Speaker 4: get them out now. 2182 01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:12,640 Speaker 1: He just like, because because I need to get it. 2183 01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,479 Speaker 4: It's part of this conversation though, because we are talking 2184 01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:18,879 Speaker 4: about this team potentially making a run in the playoffs, 2185 01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,320 Speaker 4: and it is all sunshines and rainbows right now. But 2186 01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:23,120 Speaker 4: there are a few things that are starting and I'm 2187 01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:26,120 Speaker 4: not talking about one off things. I think their run 2188 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,040 Speaker 4: defense this week was a little bit weaker than it 2189 01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:32,000 Speaker 4: normally has been. Uh, that's something that I think is 2190 01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,479 Speaker 4: percolating under the surface. They weren't going to completely shut 2191 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,920 Speaker 4: out every run game they face, but this was not. 2192 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,439 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay's rush offense was not great shakes. They didn't 2193 01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:45,719 Speaker 4: have Bucky Irving their top running back, and this was basically, 2194 01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:49,479 Speaker 4: statistically across the board, the Patriots worst run defense performance 2195 01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:51,760 Speaker 4: of the year, whether it was yards per carry, e 2196 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:55,080 Speaker 4: P A success rate, explosive runs, you know, all the 2197 01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:57,840 Speaker 4: way down the line. Uh, they face a Jets team 2198 01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,840 Speaker 4: on Thursday night that doesn't have a lot going for it. 2199 01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,439 Speaker 4: I get that, but they are one of the better, 2200 01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:06,280 Speaker 4: more explosive run offenses in the league with a very 2201 01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:07,200 Speaker 4: mobile quarterback. 2202 01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:08,760 Speaker 1: So that was one. 2203 01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:10,960 Speaker 4: The other thing, you know, we talked a little bit 2204 01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,920 Speaker 4: off the air. They are every single week they bust 2205 01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:15,320 Speaker 4: the coverage in the red zone and give up a 2206 01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:19,400 Speaker 4: wide open play, So that's frustrating. You know, Harold Fannin 2207 01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,240 Speaker 4: busted coverage, wide open touchdown. This week, a Mecha Buka 2208 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:26,800 Speaker 4: on the opening drive, busted coverage, wide open touchdown. So 2209 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:30,360 Speaker 4: the red zone defense continues to be a big picture concern. 2210 01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:33,000 Speaker 4: And then also you know, in like the little things 2211 01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,799 Speaker 4: you know that they're doing in terms of the coverage 2212 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,240 Speaker 4: is not going super hot either. And then the last one, 2213 01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:41,360 Speaker 4: We've talked about it a couple times, but you know 2214 01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,479 Speaker 4: that pick, like he just can't throw that interception like 2215 01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,679 Speaker 4: that either needs to be in structure to Matt Collins, 2216 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:49,679 Speaker 4: which I think he had him if he just threw 2217 01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,320 Speaker 4: it on time to Matt Collins in the back of 2218 01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:54,160 Speaker 4: the end zone, or that needs to be in the 2219 01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:55,840 Speaker 4: tenth row. And I know that he's going to sit 2220 01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,400 Speaker 4: here and say, I'm not going to change my playing style. 2221 01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,000 Speaker 4: I'm always going to do, you know, make that same 2222 01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:05,160 Speaker 4: throw over and over again. I'll you know, I think 2223 01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:08,280 Speaker 4: Mike Rabel might have something to say about that, because 2224 01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:10,559 Speaker 4: that's that's a field goal at an eight point game, 2225 01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:13,600 Speaker 4: you know, And and now you're you're really in the 2226 01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:16,400 Speaker 4: driver's seat like that you can't throw that pick. But 2227 01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:20,640 Speaker 4: the defense stuff I think is notable, especially you know, 2228 01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:23,000 Speaker 4: as we start to segue to this Jets game a 2229 01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:26,599 Speaker 4: little bit. Uh, they can run the ball. They are 2230 01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:29,840 Speaker 4: a really good running team. And this was the first 2231 01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:31,519 Speaker 4: time all year where I thought that there was some 2232 01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,560 Speaker 4: cracks in the run defense a little bit. And I 2233 01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:36,720 Speaker 4: think if the Bucks had had Bucky Irving then it 2234 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:38,840 Speaker 4: might have hurt them more, you know, the fact that 2235 01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:40,320 Speaker 4: it was their backup running back. 2236 01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,439 Speaker 2: So the Jets, I mean, we'll turn the page tomorrow. 2237 01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:48,120 Speaker 2: But the Jets scored on special teams twice twice. 2238 01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:55,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they had They're you know, third in the 2239 01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:56,719 Speaker 4: league right now in explosive runs. 2240 01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:57,400 Speaker 1: They are. 2241 01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,479 Speaker 4: They're not necessarily the most consistent running team, but they 2242 01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,320 Speaker 4: break big runs. It's kind of like the Patriots last week. 2243 01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:06,320 Speaker 4: You know, they'll have these big runs. Bris Hall will 2244 01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,960 Speaker 4: have big runs, and they can run the football, and 2245 01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,559 Speaker 4: they run it unconventionally because they have the quarterback involved, 2246 01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:14,040 Speaker 4: so there's a lot of readoptiones and things like that. 2247 01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:18,680 Speaker 1: Evidently he hasn't decided when they know who, they know 2248 01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:20,880 Speaker 1: who's going to play, but they won't they won't say 2249 01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:23,320 Speaker 1: who's going to play. And if it's Tyrod Taylor. You 2250 01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,760 Speaker 1: can forget that part of it. Yeah, it's not. He's 2251 01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,559 Speaker 1: equally as bad a thrower as Justin Fields, but he's 2252 01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:33,439 Speaker 1: not nearly the runner that Justin Fields is. So Taylor please. 2253 01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:33,760 Speaker 10: Yeah. 2254 01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,400 Speaker 6: Another another little thing on that though, is that the 2255 01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,679 Speaker 6: Justice had their buy too, so, you know, the short 2256 01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:39,599 Speaker 6: week it's just a little bit of an advantage for them. 2257 01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:41,320 Speaker 6: Where the Patriots are on a tail in a ten 2258 01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,800 Speaker 6: straight weeks. The Jets have had a week off, you know, 2259 01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,160 Speaker 6: last week, so you know, they're they had a game 2260 01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:48,120 Speaker 6: under their belt against Cleveland. They were able to win, 2261 01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:50,160 Speaker 6: you know, just maybe a little bit of an event. 2262 01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:54,639 Speaker 4: Physical right and as a physical offensive line, they run 2263 01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,799 Speaker 4: the ball a lot. You know, they're run first team truly. 2264 01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,120 Speaker 4: Uh And the Patriots on defense for the first time 2265 01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:03,040 Speaker 4: all year, showed a little bit of Yeah. 2266 01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:04,800 Speaker 2: I mean it's going to be tough to prepare. I 2267 01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,800 Speaker 2: mean they haven't played the Jets yet. Rabel hasn't played 2268 01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,240 Speaker 2: the Jets yet, so and you've got, you know, a 2269 01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:12,160 Speaker 2: few days to get ready for this game. 2270 01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:15,040 Speaker 5: It's it's a tough spot for the Pagos. 2271 01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a lot to get ready for, 2272 01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:21,760 Speaker 1: but there are some necessarily objective. We're going to have 2273 01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:25,120 Speaker 1: point favorites at home on a Thursday night, this late 2274 01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,000 Speaker 1: in the season. I don't know they should not get in. 2275 01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:30,000 Speaker 2: They should obviously, Okay, so you'll be lockin a lot. 2276 01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:31,760 Speaker 1: Okay, but I should obviously wait. 2277 01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,640 Speaker 4: But like, it would be one thing I think if 2278 01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:37,599 Speaker 4: this was a conventional run offense, where like the quarterbacks 2279 01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:39,519 Speaker 4: just under center and turning around and handing the ball 2280 01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:41,800 Speaker 4: off to Breeze Hall, like those ones that, like you, 2281 01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:43,840 Speaker 4: you don't really need to prepare for. It's just kind 2282 01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:46,960 Speaker 4: of a mindset thing with their run game because of 2283 01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,000 Speaker 4: justin fields, Like they run a lot of quotines to tackle, 2284 01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,240 Speaker 4: it's a it's a lot of read option, it's a 2285 01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:54,200 Speaker 4: lot of you know, different types of things. 2286 01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:57,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of design quarterback runs. So I'm not 2287 01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,000 Speaker 1: willing to give the Jets fifteen plays of offense. 2288 01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:01,400 Speaker 7: Oh do you think they got like an artificial bump 2289 01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,320 Speaker 7: just rallying because they traded off their best players. 2290 01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:05,840 Speaker 1: So I'm going to say this again. I said this 2291 01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,160 Speaker 1: on our TV show. I thought this one of your spots. 2292 01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:09,280 Speaker 5: I thought it the opposite. 2293 01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,080 Speaker 1: I said this on the TV show, right, Yeah, remember 2294 01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:17,200 Speaker 1: what I said? Yeah, the Cleveland Browns allowed fewer than 2295 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,120 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five yards of total offense and 2296 01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:24,240 Speaker 1: didn't turn the ball over. Teams that do that are 2297 01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:28,639 Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five and oh until until Sunday. 2298 01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:30,920 Speaker 1: Now they're two hundred and twenty five and one. Two 2299 01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:34,640 Speaker 1: special teams punt and kick return for touchdowns. Now, if 2300 01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,040 Speaker 1: the Patriots go out and do that, like I'll you 2301 01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:41,559 Speaker 1: guys can attack me on next Tuesday or Thursday night 2302 01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,280 Speaker 1: if things got If the Patriots turn the ball over 2303 01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:48,240 Speaker 1: or give up special teams touchdowns and they find a 2304 01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:51,040 Speaker 1: way to lose this game, I'm just telling you, if 2305 01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,519 Speaker 1: they just played conventional football and justin Fields and Breese 2306 01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:56,200 Speaker 1: Hall try to run the ball and throw the ball 2307 01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:59,760 Speaker 1: for forty seven yards, the Jets have no chance to 2308 01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:01,400 Speaker 1: win this game. I don't think they have a chance 2309 01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:01,960 Speaker 1: to win the game. 2310 01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,960 Speaker 4: I'm trying to tell you how they could make it competitive. 2311 01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:07,360 Speaker 1: No, right, I don't even think they can do that. 2312 01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't because all the good, the good players that 2313 01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,160 Speaker 1: the Jets just got rid of on defense, I don't see. 2314 01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:18,840 Speaker 1: You don't believe in the uing theory? God, no, did 2315 01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,519 Speaker 1: you watch the game? Just asking the Jets don't believe 2316 01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:23,519 Speaker 1: in the uing theory either. They were awful. I'm kind 2317 01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:25,160 Speaker 1: of without they were awful in this game. 2318 01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:27,920 Speaker 2: I just they can't. 2319 01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:29,280 Speaker 5: The offense is terrible. 2320 01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,400 Speaker 1: If they had a semblance of an offense, I could 2321 01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:36,120 Speaker 1: make the argument Thursday night Division game those are generally 2322 01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:37,840 Speaker 1: closer than you think. I think this is going to 2323 01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,599 Speaker 1: be the seventh time Division teams are going to play 2324 01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:44,360 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night in the previous six, you know, and 2325 01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:47,720 Speaker 1: they're different divisions around the league. Obviously, I think four 2326 01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:49,960 Speaker 1: of them will decided about like a field goal or less, 2327 01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, or a touchdown or less. There are a 2328 01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:53,720 Speaker 1: lot of games have been good, they tend they tend 2329 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:58,200 Speaker 1: to be close because there's a familiarity. But this one, 2330 01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:02,080 Speaker 1: to me, no Quinn Williams, no Sauce Gardner, no Garrett Wilson. 2331 01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,680 Speaker 1: All the Jets have is not playing in this game. 2332 01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:07,280 Speaker 1: Do you think and the Jets have very little to 2333 01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:07,680 Speaker 1: begin with? 2334 01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:09,559 Speaker 2: Do you think a lot of these games are also 2335 01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:13,320 Speaker 2: close because of the lack of preparation, that and the fatigue. 2336 01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:17,800 Speaker 1: I think, you know, but like maybe a slight thing 2337 01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,120 Speaker 1: for the Jets there. They were at home this week 2338 01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,439 Speaker 1: and the Patriots were on the road. So but I 2339 01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:25,960 Speaker 1: think the home team has an enormous advantage. You know, tomorrow, 2340 01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,000 Speaker 1: when we're talking about turning the page to the Jets, 2341 01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:30,519 Speaker 1: the Jets would be traveling here, you know. And I 2342 01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,040 Speaker 1: know it's only a half out, forty five minute flight 2343 01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:35,080 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, but it's not a forty five 2344 01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,719 Speaker 1: minute process. I can tell you that. I just think 2345 01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 1: it's I think it's really hard. We'll play. They can 2346 01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:42,920 Speaker 1: get here late in the year. That's for the right 2347 01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:46,280 Speaker 1: team to win on Thursday, especially when you stink. I mean, 2348 01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:47,879 Speaker 1: let's face it, they're two and Steve. 2349 01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:48,120 Speaker 2: And I did. 2350 01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:49,599 Speaker 6: One thing that just stan out to me is the Jets, 2351 01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:51,800 Speaker 6: of other than the Cowboys and the Bills, they got 2352 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,519 Speaker 6: blown out in those two games. Every other one it's 2353 01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,360 Speaker 6: been like a one score game. I mean, they haven't 2354 01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,599 Speaker 6: gotten killed. Other than those two games, they've been good. 2355 01:46:57,800 --> 01:46:57,920 Speaker 8: You know. 2356 01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:59,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a four point. 2357 01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,960 Speaker 4: Their defense before they traded these two guys was terrible 2358 01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,360 Speaker 4: and it's still terrible. So I think that that's the 2359 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:10,519 Speaker 4: one thing that you know, I do understand that what 2360 01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:14,200 Speaker 4: Alex was kind of getting at of like there's always 2361 01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:15,840 Speaker 4: a little bit of that. It's kind of like when 2362 01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,599 Speaker 4: we talk about the interim coach bump, where like I called. 2363 01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:21,519 Speaker 1: The interim coach bump adjacent. Yeah, that's right, it's like it's. 2364 01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:24,800 Speaker 4: Very similar where like okay, like you know, the role 2365 01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:26,920 Speaker 4: players get to play a little bit more and maybe 2366 01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,200 Speaker 4: the vibes are a little bit better because maybe the 2367 01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:31,280 Speaker 4: guy they traded was a turn in the punch bowl 2368 01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:33,800 Speaker 4: and now like, okay, things are just a little bit 2369 01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,760 Speaker 4: better around the facility because those guys are gone. And 2370 01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:38,519 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that that's the case with the Jets, 2371 01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:39,800 Speaker 4: but that does happen. 2372 01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I don't. 2373 01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to defend you a little bit here because 2374 01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:46,720 Speaker 1: the defense. Evan's right, the numbers are probably not great. 2375 01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,400 Speaker 1: They got off to a horrific start defensively, but the 2376 01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:53,920 Speaker 1: last month they gave up thirteen, thirteen, and twenty and 2377 01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:55,920 Speaker 1: three out of those four games, now, the fourth one 2378 01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:58,280 Speaker 1: was the Bengals. They got up thirty eight. They lost that. 2379 01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:00,320 Speaker 1: They won the game thirty nine to thirty eight. But 2380 01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals are doing that to everybody, but thirteen to 2381 01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:06,759 Speaker 1: the Broncos, thirteen to the Panthers, twenty to the Browns. 2382 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,280 Speaker 1: So the defense has played better after a terribly in 2383 01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,920 Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty, twenty nine, twenty seven, thirty seven, 2384 01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:17,599 Speaker 1: the first five weeks in the season, they have some players. 2385 01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,880 Speaker 1: You know, Will McDonald had four sacks of the day 2386 01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:23,680 Speaker 1: again in practice and her. If you let Will McDonald, 2387 01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, get four sacks and maybe cause a strip 2388 01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:28,479 Speaker 1: sack on two of them, that gives the the Jets points, 2389 01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,000 Speaker 1: you can lose. Like obviously it's an NFL game, you 2390 01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:33,439 Speaker 1: can lose it. I'm just that's what it's gonna take. 2391 01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,599 Speaker 1: The four ways, that's what it's gonna take to lose. 2392 01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:38,000 Speaker 1: He's a fire. 2393 01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:40,320 Speaker 4: I hope that he plays because we're already missing out 2394 01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:43,200 Speaker 4: on Gon's over as Garrett Wilson, which is bummers. And 2395 01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:45,680 Speaker 4: now I'm hoping that Will McDonald plays because i'd like 2396 01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:47,880 Speaker 4: to see Will Campbell against McDonald. I think that's the 2397 01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:51,639 Speaker 4: type of guy that Will Campbell's theoretically could have problems 2398 01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:54,920 Speaker 4: with speed rusher with some length and some juice off 2399 01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:57,360 Speaker 4: the edge. So I'd like to see how Will Campbell 2400 01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,400 Speaker 4: does it. Because McDonald's a really good player. He's having 2401 01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:01,280 Speaker 4: a really good year here and it's sort of coming 2402 01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:03,879 Speaker 4: into his on he had a four sacks seven pressures 2403 01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:06,439 Speaker 4: lines up kind of everywhere that put them up over 2404 01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:08,960 Speaker 4: the guards and have him rushed there too. So he's 2405 01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:10,320 Speaker 4: he's a fun player to watch. 2406 01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:11,640 Speaker 15: Uh. 2407 01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,960 Speaker 2: We were talking about interim coaches, you know, with Tennessee 2408 01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,439 Speaker 2: firing their coach just before they played the Patriots. I 2409 01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:21,400 Speaker 2: heard that Dabile get fired because we're on their schedule 2410 01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:21,920 Speaker 2: coming up. 2411 01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:24,719 Speaker 1: I heard the same thing. So we're a coach killer 2412 01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:26,000 Speaker 1: that game is getting. That's interesting. 2413 01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:27,160 Speaker 5: We're a coach killer. 2414 01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,439 Speaker 6: I don't status with Dart's going to be, but now 2415 01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:30,200 Speaker 6: he's out, Like. 2416 01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:33,320 Speaker 4: I wonder what the flex you can flex Monday night now? 2417 01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:34,479 Speaker 10: So I do? 2418 01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean Drake May and Monday Night. Maybe they can't 2419 01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:39,600 Speaker 1: imagine they'd want to get Boston, New York off of 2420 01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:40,120 Speaker 1: Monday Night. 2421 01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:43,720 Speaker 4: It's like that Giants team is a mess, but they 2422 01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,000 Speaker 4: play entertaining games. 2423 01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:47,120 Speaker 5: They do, but Scataboo's not playing. 2424 01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:49,040 Speaker 1: But they lose a ten point lead in the last 2425 01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:52,280 Speaker 1: five minutes of every game. I know, Like, that's why 2426 01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:55,679 Speaker 1: you lost. It's not because they're it's not necessarily because 2427 01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:57,120 Speaker 1: they're two and eight. It's how they got to to 2428 01:49:57,640 --> 01:49:59,559 Speaker 1: They've They've done that like four times. 2429 01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:03,240 Speaker 5: I know, let's get back to the phones, Eric's and Albuquerque. 2430 01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:03,840 Speaker 2: What's up? 2431 01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,880 Speaker 12: Eric, Tay, Guys, how are you doing? Thanks for taking 2432 01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:10,640 Speaker 12: my call. Hey, I'm I'm usually at work, so I 2433 01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,040 Speaker 12: can never call when you're live. But my question is 2434 01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:15,280 Speaker 12: about the defense. We haven't heard a whole lot of 2435 01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:18,240 Speaker 12: talk about it this year in relation to how great 2436 01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:20,880 Speaker 12: the offense is doing. And I know we've got an 2437 01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:24,519 Speaker 12: interim decord Zach Core. 2438 01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:27,200 Speaker 2: Yes, Core, that Core? 2439 01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:29,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, you got it right, Yeah, that Core. 2440 01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:30,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2441 01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:33,240 Speaker 12: So I don't hear many people talking about him, and 2442 01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:36,000 Speaker 12: I know I'm wondering, is it is it the defense 2443 01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:39,599 Speaker 12: being like coached by committee? Is Rabel kind of doing 2444 01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,160 Speaker 12: it or is Zach doing it? Should we be talking 2445 01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:42,240 Speaker 12: about Zach Core a little bit? 2446 01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach I. 2447 01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,080 Speaker 4: Wrote about him earlier this year, if you want to 2448 01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:48,639 Speaker 4: check that out, and just kind of him taking over 2449 01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,160 Speaker 4: the play calling and all that kind of stuff. He's 2450 01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:55,400 Speaker 4: he's the de facto defensive coordinator. He's running the meetings, 2451 01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:59,439 Speaker 4: he's calling the plays. You know, I'm sure like everything 2452 01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,960 Speaker 4: else football team, you know, Vrabel has a huge say 2453 01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,960 Speaker 4: in the game plan and sort of the high level, 2454 01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:07,800 Speaker 4: you know, big picture stuff in terms of how they 2455 01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:08,519 Speaker 4: go into games. 2456 01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:09,200 Speaker 1: And things like that. 2457 01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,160 Speaker 4: But it's Core's play sheet, and I think he's done 2458 01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:14,280 Speaker 4: a pretty good job. I mean, there are things that 2459 01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,439 Speaker 4: I don't love about how they do, uh you know, 2460 01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:19,160 Speaker 4: play early down defense in terms of the coverage, but 2461 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:23,000 Speaker 4: it works like they're keeping the scoring down, they're they're 2462 01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:25,880 Speaker 4: keeping the big plays down. Uh, they're good on third down, 2463 01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:26,759 Speaker 4: like I said earlier. 2464 01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,479 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the best thing I could say 2465 01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:32,680 Speaker 1: is that they've been absolutely outstanding when they have to be, 2466 01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:36,719 Speaker 1: and that's every every week, every game when the game's 2467 01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:38,600 Speaker 1: on the line, they've dominated. 2468 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, they come out and sorry, go ahead, Eric, what 2469 01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:43,000 Speaker 4: did you say? 2470 01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,320 Speaker 12: Oh just say Yeah, that blitz end the game on 2471 01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:48,759 Speaker 12: Sunday was just perfectly right, beauty. 2472 01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:50,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks Eric. 2473 01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,040 Speaker 6: I think it stands out to me is the personality 2474 01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:54,320 Speaker 6: that vrabel is injected in this team, and like, you know, 2475 01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:58,360 Speaker 6: watching Corey Dirten play with this reckless abandon until through 2476 01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,240 Speaker 6: the whistle. That's what they keep saying, play longer than 2477 01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:02,240 Speaker 6: the guy with the ball, and you just see that 2478 01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:05,400 Speaker 6: playing style and you look at like the broken tackles, 2479 01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:07,519 Speaker 6: which I think have gotten better, but even when they're high, 2480 01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:09,320 Speaker 6: like they don't give up a lot of yards because 2481 01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:11,599 Speaker 6: everyone is running to the ball, so if one guy 2482 01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:13,840 Speaker 6: into the tackle, someone else is going to be right there. 2483 01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,200 Speaker 1: You see that over and over again. The Baker flip 2484 01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:17,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the game. 2485 01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:20,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, right on the spot, like realizing that that was crazy. 2486 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:22,000 Speaker 6: That was one you got to see in the end 2487 01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:24,960 Speaker 6: zone footage to see. Yeah, but Baker Mayfield like falling backwards, 2488 01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:26,160 Speaker 6: you know it was. 2489 01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,639 Speaker 1: That had ever been like let's say Hawkins wasn't there 2490 01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,080 Speaker 1: and why he got the first down, I think that 2491 01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:33,960 Speaker 1: would have been World War three for Patriots fans because 2492 01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how that's not a sack not in 2493 01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:36,559 Speaker 1: the ground. 2494 01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:38,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean even watching it though, it was I 2495 01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,519 Speaker 6: mean I was thinking, like when would I blow the 2496 01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:41,280 Speaker 6: whistle right here? 2497 01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:43,760 Speaker 1: And there really wasn't a moment like you know, it 2498 01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:45,439 Speaker 1: was moving, I would have blown the whistle. 2499 01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:48,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he was moving though, like you could 2500 01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:50,720 Speaker 4: see it like on the film that he's still got 2501 01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,519 Speaker 4: momentum like he has four progress hadn't been stopped yet. 2502 01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:56,680 Speaker 4: But I uh, yeah, I think what you know, what 2503 01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,080 Speaker 4: I see from Core I give him credit is like 2504 01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:02,360 Speaker 4: he kind of it knows when to send the house, 2505 01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:04,400 Speaker 4: he knows when to pressure. He knows when to get 2506 01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:08,560 Speaker 4: intomand coverage, and they're kind of trusting their philosophy of 2507 01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,320 Speaker 4: we're gonna play some zone. We're probably gonna give up 2508 01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,599 Speaker 4: some plays, but we're not gonna give up a ton 2509 01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,000 Speaker 4: of points. And then when we really need to it's 2510 01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:18,639 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, it's third or fourth down, we're gonna 2511 01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:20,880 Speaker 4: go man to man, we're gonna get Gonzo on their 2512 01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:23,320 Speaker 4: best receiver, and we're gonna get off the field. And 2513 01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:26,000 Speaker 4: it's so far it's worked, like we'll see. You know, 2514 01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:28,519 Speaker 4: I'm a little concerned about the early down pass defense 2515 01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:30,760 Speaker 4: and like they face a really good quarterback in the 2516 01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:33,600 Speaker 4: playoffs that that can tear that apart. And it's a 2517 01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,000 Speaker 4: little bit concerning that you're never gonna get the third down. 2518 01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:37,920 Speaker 4: But they've been really good. 2519 01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:41,519 Speaker 5: Coming down the home stretch. Eldred's in North Carolina. 2520 01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:41,920 Speaker 2: What's up? 2521 01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:42,400 Speaker 5: Eldred? 2522 01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:50,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, yes, sir. 2523 01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:54,400 Speaker 15: You're killing me, but I'm going to agree with you 2524 01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:55,000 Speaker 15: a little bit. 2525 01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:56,840 Speaker 4: Question. 2526 01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:04,280 Speaker 15: Question is a good, solid game yet and everybody got 2527 01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:06,280 Speaker 15: them going to the super Bowl already, and I'm like, 2528 01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,240 Speaker 15: just can't put it down just a little bit more. 2529 01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:11,640 Speaker 15: But do you ever think we get we get one 2530 01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:14,600 Speaker 15: good one, good solid game, and when you think it 2531 01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:18,080 Speaker 15: might be I noticed is like a ball. But I'm 2532 01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:18,599 Speaker 15: just acting. 2533 01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:20,840 Speaker 1: Thursday night, and y'all have a good one. 2534 01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:22,200 Speaker 5: Thanks, Thanks, Eldred. 2535 01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:22,800 Speaker 1: I want to know what. 2536 01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:25,439 Speaker 5: I don't know what you're killing him about? 2537 01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:28,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, he said he it's killing him that he kind 2538 01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:28,600 Speaker 7: of agrees with you. 2539 01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:33,680 Speaker 1: Oh okay, why about what? Still don't know what he 2540 01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:34,080 Speaker 1: doesn't like? 2541 01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:36,800 Speaker 5: So when are they gonna have a complete game Thursday night? 2542 01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:37,600 Speaker 2: Just right? 2543 01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:41,480 Speaker 1: What is a couple of years? I think they've played 2544 01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:44,160 Speaker 1: a lot of really sound games. I guess this is 2545 01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:45,720 Speaker 1: another one that I get made fun of on the 2546 01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:46,640 Speaker 1: post game show. 2547 01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:47,840 Speaker 5: For being it's not perfect, Paul. 2548 01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:50,680 Speaker 1: I think it's been really really good, and I don't 2549 01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:54,640 Speaker 1: like you go to Tampa. Tampa's coming off the buy 2550 01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:58,800 Speaker 1: and you didn't soundly dominate him for sixty minutes, So 2551 01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,480 Speaker 1: I guess you didn't play your best football. I think 2552 01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:03,200 Speaker 1: they played about as well as they can play. Now, 2553 01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:06,320 Speaker 1: did they make mistakes? Of course they did. Evan you know, 2554 01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:10,480 Speaker 1: chartered some specifics, but I just don't know what we're expecting. 2555 01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:12,920 Speaker 5: Dan's and Daytona. What's up? 2556 01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:15,360 Speaker 7: Dan? Hey? 2557 01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:16,000 Speaker 2: How's it going? 2558 01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:16,840 Speaker 1: Can you guys hear me. 2559 01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:20,360 Speaker 15: How's it going to just calling back again? 2560 01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:22,720 Speaker 3: Brad un Below disappointed you weren't. 2561 01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,800 Speaker 2: There on Sunday, but uh, I just had to throw 2562 01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,000 Speaker 2: that in there. And oh you mean at the party, 2563 01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:32,040 Speaker 2: uh Saturday night? Well, well I had reservations. That burns. 2564 01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:36,000 Speaker 2: He's talking about the postgame show postgame show. 2565 01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:40,320 Speaker 15: Yeah, the post game show. You know I usually miss you. 2566 01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:43,880 Speaker 12: You know your your banter with with Paul and yeah, 2567 01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:46,720 Speaker 12: but I'll be there. 2568 01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:50,200 Speaker 2: I'll be there this Thursday, and I'll have the advantage 2569 01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:51,680 Speaker 2: because Paul doesn't like late nights. 2570 01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:55,240 Speaker 1: You can have the five energy. 2571 01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:59,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to get your guys' take on two different things. 2572 01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:02,560 Speaker 15: I know you guys seen a brand a bullfire. 2573 01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:04,600 Speaker 12: Do you think that the Patriots are going to add 2574 01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:05,560 Speaker 12: him possibly. 2575 01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,640 Speaker 2: This year but no, absolutely not. 2576 01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:10,480 Speaker 14: Or you think he's going to try and take that 2577 01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:13,160 Speaker 14: job doun of maybe Miami or go back to Buffalo. 2578 01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what he's gonna do, but I don't 2579 01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,280 Speaker 2: think he's gonna be working until next year. 2580 01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:20,760 Speaker 5: Probably you'll probably take the rest of the year off. 2581 01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:23,760 Speaker 4: It's always tough to what next dand team like the 2582 01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:27,360 Speaker 4: Patriots or or Buffalo, like let's have somebody like over 2583 01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:31,160 Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator shoulder like and like, you know, I 2584 01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:33,920 Speaker 4: don't think it would really impact McDaniels as much, but 2585 01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:36,600 Speaker 4: like Joe Brady's a young, hit like coordinator that like, 2586 01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:40,040 Speaker 4: now this guy that supposedly fixed Josh Allen and like 2587 01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:42,760 Speaker 4: made him into an MVP is just it lurking in 2588 01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:45,520 Speaker 4: the building. Sean mcdermoy yesterday said there was no chance 2589 01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:47,720 Speaker 4: they were considering. 2590 01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:49,280 Speaker 6: That a little when they brought Josh back in eleven. 2591 01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:51,320 Speaker 6: You know, but I think Leo was already leaving, right, 2592 01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:52,680 Speaker 6: so you knew had to think. 2593 01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:55,760 Speaker 2: That had a big part of that couple even emails 2594 01:56:55,800 --> 01:57:00,040 Speaker 2: to wrap up the show with Jeremiah says he he 2595 01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:02,920 Speaker 2: agrees with Evan. I get exactly what he's talking about. 2596 01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:05,960 Speaker 2: With the national media. Just last week with the Falcons game, 2597 01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:08,560 Speaker 2: I watched Shannon Sharp talk about it and say that 2598 01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:12,200 Speaker 2: Drake London essentially gave Gonzo the work. I can tell 2599 01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:14,000 Speaker 2: he just looked at the stats and didn't see the 2600 01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:16,560 Speaker 2: actual matchup, and now all his fan base is going 2601 01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:19,480 Speaker 2: to take it as fact that Gonzo got three touchdowns 2602 01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:24,160 Speaker 2: put on his head by London and then Spi and 2603 01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:27,960 Speaker 2: Fresno says has Evan never underestimated a player in the 2604 01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,560 Speaker 2: draft and then later came around to recognize that the 2605 01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:34,080 Speaker 2: player is really good. His claim of Drake in response 2606 01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:37,320 Speaker 2: to the national accolades is silly Hubris. We should have 2607 01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:40,760 Speaker 2: Evan wear a Drake jersey and unleash mob on him. 2608 01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:44,480 Speaker 4: That's not what I'm saying is that's another pet peeve 2609 01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:47,560 Speaker 4: of mine, Like, don't don't twist my words. What I 2610 01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:51,400 Speaker 4: said was is I would like them to like have 2611 01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:53,920 Speaker 4: some mia kolpa. When I'm wrong about a player in 2612 01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,360 Speaker 4: the draft, which happens all the time, I will say, yeah, 2613 01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:57,720 Speaker 4: I was dead wrong about that guy. 2614 01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:00,400 Speaker 1: These people now, they're just acting like they were on 2615 01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:03,320 Speaker 1: the bandwick don't acknowledge it. Yeah, And I'm not for that. 2616 01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:05,680 Speaker 2: Well, is there a chance today the time that they 2617 01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:06,320 Speaker 2: are trying. 2618 01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:10,440 Speaker 1: To hear that a million times? Like that's the job. 2619 01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:14,880 Speaker 2: Like I admit that I was wrong, but I still 2620 01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:18,720 Speaker 2: want to thank him, and I believe we owe him thanks. 2621 01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:21,800 Speaker 1: I have no rebuttal of that. That's true. 2622 01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:24,280 Speaker 2: All right, that's going to be it for this edition 2623 01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:29,120 Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow Wednesday. It's going 2624 01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:31,280 Speaker 2: to be like a Thursday because we're going to do 2625 01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:34,040 Speaker 2: our picks. We won't be here on Thursday, but we 2626 01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:37,200 Speaker 2: will have the pregame show on Thursday. So it's a 2627 01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:41,560 Speaker 2: short week, big turnaround, exciting. We got the Jets rivalries. 2628 01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:46,040 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I might have something to wear tomorrow storm Blue, 2629 01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:48,920 Speaker 2: all right, tomorrow twenty two to ten. 2630 01:58:51,640 --> 01:58:53,760 Speaker 6: Hey, this is Duce. Thanks for tuning into the show. 2631 01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:55,400 Speaker 6: If you really want to help us, make sure you 2632 01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,000 Speaker 6: like us wherever you get your podcasts, like Apple Podcasts 2633 01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:00,280 Speaker 6: or Spotify. 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