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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, welcome to this latest episode of Amy and TJ.

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Speaker 2: And just like.

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Speaker 1: Always, we have no idea what's going on in this episode,

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Speaker 1: but it's different this time. Rodes. Now, this is truly

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Speaker 1: one where we don't know what's happening and we're kind

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Speaker 1: of excited about Heart is raising.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm not big on surprises, and I think you know

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Speaker 4: that I'm not one loves a surprise party, but this

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Speaker 4: is a controlled surprise, like we know we're about to

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Speaker 4: be surprised, so.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit different.

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Speaker 4: We were just told by our wonderful iHeart team that

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Speaker 4: they had a surprise for us and for us to

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Speaker 4: keep this day open for us to come into the studio,

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Speaker 4: that they had guest possible guests for us that we

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Speaker 4: were going to love, that we were going to be

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Speaker 4: super excited about, but they wanted it to be secret.

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Speaker 1: Wait hasn't this been months in the world. I swear

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Speaker 1: Hanad's been telling usbout this one months.

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Speaker 4: We've belt about this, I think for at least two months,

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Speaker 4: and they seem to think that we're going to be

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Speaker 4: so excited about it that they wanted it to be

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Speaker 4: a surprise.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And it freaked them out a little bit because

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Speaker 1: our schedule is a mess. They say, hey, October, you

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Speaker 1: don't know, let's let's just check our schedule. So this

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Speaker 1: finally did work out. Now we suspect it because it's Halloween,

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Speaker 1: it's around thet We are huge horror movie fans, so

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Speaker 1: we have all kinds of guesses about who it might be.

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Speaker 1: But we've been thrown off a little bit. Now they

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Speaker 1: throw us a couple of curves. So now I'm a

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Speaker 1: little lost.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 4: So well, we know it's Halloween themed because when we

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Speaker 4: came into the studio. We'll put the pictures up on

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Speaker 4: social media. But the it's very cute. Emma decorated the

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Speaker 4: Amy and TJ studio with some Halloween high ends.

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Speaker 1: We've got this is some high ends.

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Speaker 4: Bloody plastic feet. We've got a ghoule behind me. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: some black netting everywhere. So obviously this is horror movie related,

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Speaker 4: which we totally support.

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Speaker 3: Do I want to say when? I so when?

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Speaker 4: Now we believe it's more than one guest because we

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Speaker 4: saw the s Okay, yeah, so that threw me because

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Speaker 4: initially I was thinking it might be Stephen King.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm all, Now I'm thrown off. Now, I'm really

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Speaker 1: off when it went the two that threw me off.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: Son, we we should do it. We should Okay. So

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Speaker 1: we are now, folks, you listening to us, are going

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Speaker 1: to find out, as we found out, find out who

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Speaker 1: our guests are for the day. So Hannah, will you

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Speaker 1: please finally give us the reveal? Who do we have

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Speaker 1: on the show today?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 1: Robert England himself? How did Joe pull this off? We

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Speaker 1: should let everybody I'm your boyfriend now.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, wow, if I could have seen this.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Heather, I'm telling you on this happened yesterday.

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Speaker 3: So true.

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Speaker 1: We were watching you a Nightmare on Elm Street just yesterday.

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Speaker 3: And what did I say to you? I under what

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Speaker 3: she's doing now and here you are. That is a

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Speaker 4: So we were on a plane yesterday and we like

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Speaker 4: to talk because we're you know, just like that, And

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Speaker 4: so we put on what we call background movies. And

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Speaker 4: it's usually just a favorite movie of ours. We've seen

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Speaker 4: warm and fuzzy, And for me it was Nightmare on

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Speaker 4: Elm Street. We just let's say hello, I'm here with

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Speaker 6: We're celebrating the fortieth anniversary of Nightmare this year, and

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Speaker 6: we're also we're talking about the Ultra four KHD that

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Speaker 6: Warner Brothers just putting out. So we're we're spending a

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Speaker 2: It's that thing.

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Speaker 5: You know. What I realized is so many fans discovered

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Speaker 5: Nightmare on Elm Street on that that rented video, that

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Speaker 5: I was watching the four K of Hitchcock's Rear Window,

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Speaker 2: It was better than I ever imagined it. So I'm

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Speaker 5: Really hyping this four K of Nightmare on Elm Street

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Speaker 6: Creamy because everyone has these new TVs now that you know,

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Speaker 1: In the man cave, the woman you know, how does

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Speaker 1: that change. I have not seen like an original and

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Speaker 1: so that still is kind of appealing. But you're telling

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Speaker 6: And what's even more is if they added some about

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Speaker 6: eight or nine seconds to the Tina death seeds. You

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Speaker 6: know what.

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Speaker 2: I dragged China over the ceiling and.

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Speaker 3: I just watched it. Yes, that's one thing. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 5: Eight seconds of missing footage, which sounds short, but that's

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Speaker 5: actually that's a lot of blood and that's already.

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Speaker 6: It's such a good scene. It's gonna yeah, it's even

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Speaker 4: That is so exciting. What I'm trying to remember what

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Speaker 4: year it was when it first came out in forty

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Speaker 4: years ago, I was eleven years old. I didn't see

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Speaker 4: sing one, two, Freddy's after You, three, four better, six,

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Speaker 6: Jumped in sleep.

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Speaker 4: But again, I mean I was a huge fan, and

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Speaker 4: I know you probably love this, but I mean it

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Speaker 4: is scary when I look at you now.

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Speaker 3: You still look like Freddy Krueger to me. But Freddy

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Speaker 5: Freddie was older than Robert England when I originally played it,

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Speaker 5: and as I age, I'm kind.

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Speaker 2: Of aging like him.

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Speaker 5: But that was that's a gift actually from Kevin Yaeger

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Speaker 5: that's actually why now the shorter my haircut is. When

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Speaker 2: That actually, because I look more like him.

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Speaker 3: Do you wear a striped sweater?

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Speaker 6: I've never seen Robert in a red and green sweater actually,

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not all.

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Speaker 1: The time, Robert, not your brother. What is a what

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Speaker 6: I mean I always say I don't feel like I

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Speaker 6: It's a term of art that I think is actually

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Speaker 6: So I kind of feel as like our little brotherhood

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Speaker 5: You know, when I was a kid and we go

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Speaker 6: When we started forty years ago, very few women would

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Speaker 5: I think they identify, you know, the journey of the

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Speaker 2: At the end. People forget this. Freddie always loses to

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Speaker 5: At the end of each film, she survives and vanquishes him.

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Speaker 2: Let's go hide in the barcion.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that commercial is amazing.

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Speaker 4: I'm amazed because I don't think I mean, I just

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Speaker 3: Was saying, it's so funny.

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Speaker 4: I remember just wanting to be you and looking up

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Speaker 4: I loved, obviously the adrenaline, with the fear and Freddy

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Speaker 4: with you and your character of Nancy. Heather and I

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Speaker 4: never thought about it like this, And I don't think

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Speaker 3: Freddy Kruger?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think that's why this movie came along

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Speaker 6: it wasn't just It's not just girls love Nancy, boys

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Speaker 2: Because it's the pajamas.

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Speaker 6: It's the pajamas, the sexy pajamas, the little Chinese pajamas

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Speaker 6: with the flowers. But she just represented how to face

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Speaker 6: I always say, what's your Freddie and people always answer, Oh,

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Speaker 5: I think that's the best gimmick, the best hook that

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Speaker 5: That's what I was just gonna say. There is some

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Speaker 5: I just saw her do the that's the prequel to

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Speaker 6: I mean, the last horror movie I really saw was Abigail,

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Speaker 5: You know, long Long Legs, Nick Page and long Legs.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm curious how your lives changed after that movie.

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Speaker 5: I'd had a hit TV series at the same time

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, yeah, I think the movie really did.

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Speaker 5: Well, Heather almost didn't do the movie. You know, her

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean he's just such an iconic character. I mean,

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Speaker 6: But they never, like they've never marketed the little Cassio

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Speaker 6: Oh you know it is a mattress commercial. I could

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Speaker 5: A Lifetime movie Freddie and Nancy The Untold Story I'm

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Speaker 5: I could employ those as an actor. Whereas and actors

442
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 5: are afraid to tell you this, but a lot of

443
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 5: the time, when we're working and we're in our own

444
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 5: face and our own bald spot, and our own good

445
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 5: side and bad side, a lot of times there's a

446
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 5: little voice as that camera gets closer and closer that's

447
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 5: saying to us, don't act, don't get caught acting. Don't

448
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 5: get caught acting now, Robert. And that's actually a kind

449
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 5: of violation for me or the experience of acting and

450
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 5: listening and behaving and reacting. And I loved the liberation

451
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 5: of playing Freddie. I wasn't worried about my bald spot

452
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 5: catching the light anymore. Moved differently, I could I could

453
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 5: be a little more theatrical with my voice and I

454
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 5: could move differently literally some points in some of the

455
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 5: films where I would come round a piece of furniture,

456
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 5: or I would be in a doorway or something and

457
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 5: I would compose myself with the frame, or I would

458
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 5: literally dance it a little bit because I'm not in reality.

459
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: And that was a great liberating thing for me.

460
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 5: And when I went back to playing with my own face,

461
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 5: you know, in movies and television series, I was just

462
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 5: more free as an actor.

463
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: I think I was just more.

464
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 6: Yeah forgetting to mention that you had the clause, because

465
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 6: the claws were actually something that he would often say, Heather,

466
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 6: put your face here, so my Claus can go there,

467
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 6: or move this way and the light will glint off

468
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 6: my claws. Like the claus were such an important character

469
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 6: in and of themselves that Robert quickly learned that they

470
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 6: made sounds, that they could glint, that they could be

471
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 6: really threatening. And so I feel some of the his

472
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,959
Speaker 6: understanding of how powerful that glove is. Even today when

473
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 6: we take photos with folks, he has that glove in

474
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 6: the picture because it became an extension of his body

475
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 6: and such an incredible.

476
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 5: Prop But it's also that liberation that I was talking

477
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 5: about in the theater.

478
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: You're not afraid to throw that tape over your shoulder.

479
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 5: Dramatically on your entrance into Shakespearean play, or to hit

480
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 5: that pose with your hand on the hilt of your sword.

481
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 5: And the claw became that kind of thing. I was

482
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 5: not afraid. I didn't feel like I had to hide

483
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 5: it or save it. I felt like I could get

484
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 5: it in there and use it and again in the frame,

485
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 5: dance with it a little bit, whether it was here

486
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 5: or here or here?

487
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, where's the claw? Where is it kept? Where is

488
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: it right now?

489
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: Well?

490
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 5: I think the original is with the widow of my

491
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 5: late great agent, Joe Rice, and I need to write

492
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 5: her a certainicate of authenticity. But actually, yeah, I'd had

493
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 5: it in a shoe box for about a year. Wes

494
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 5: had loaned it to me to wear it to do

495
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 5: pickup shots. Well, you have to understand back at the beginning,

496
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 5: you guys, we had no idea it was going to

497
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 5: become iconic, you know, film for that we'd be celebrating

498
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 5: forty years later. And I took it out in frame,

499
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 5: I stuffed it and framed it in plexiglass and gave

500
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 5: it to my agent. And he'd had it. He's had

501
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 5: it all those years, so it's in his office.

502
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: I believe you've just.

503
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 6: Broken the hearts of everyone who thinks they have an

504
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 6: original Welt.

505
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 5: Oh well, there were, you know, a full full disclosure.

506
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 5: There were several gloves. There was a stuntman's glove. There

507
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 5: was one that had my lar on it that caught

508
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 5: the light better. There was one made of razors that

509
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 5: could cut through scenery. So there were and there were

510
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 5: probably two or three hero gloves, so don't think that

511
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 5: it was the only lub.

512
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 6: Still, do you own an original?

513
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 5: I have the original hero glove that Wes Craven took

514
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 5: home from the set.

515
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: Can I some of those were actually sharp enough to

516
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: do damage?

517
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but we had a hard rubber one for

518
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: fight scenes.

519
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 6: There's one scene where he goes through the like the

520
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 6: Muslin curtain, and that was of course those were real

521
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 6: sharp knives, but only once or twice that he.

522
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: Use those on meat, Heather.

523
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: Did you see a switch in him or was it

524
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,959
Speaker 1: even weird to have Robert England in full Freddie makeup

525
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: and then maybe have a conversation or a coffee with him.

526
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: Did he go into character as soon as that makeup

527
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: came on or was it weird to have a regular

528
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: conversation le.

529
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 6: No, he was not that method. He would try to

530
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 6: make us laugh. He would crack us up. He'd be

531
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 6: telling us like where to go for the best, you know,

532
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 6: thie food, and then they'd rele action, and then he'd

533
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 6: be Freddie. You know, Robert. Robert did not maintain the

534
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 6: Freddie character off screen.

535
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 5: You wanted to get I wanted to get the kids

536
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 5: to trust me so I could throw them across the room,

537
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 5: you know. And I mean, I'm sure over the course

538
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 5: of the films, I've left thumbrints on Heather's arm, you know,

539
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 5: in it from fight scenes and things.

540
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 2: But you want to get them to trust you.

541
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 5: So I would like, I'm there at dawn getting that

542
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 5: makeup stuck on me with cold glue.

543
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: And eating donuts and drinking coffee.

544
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 5: But I would get all the only other people on

545
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 5: the set were that that earlier, the teamsters, So I'd

546
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 5: get all the dirty jokes for the teamsters, and then.

547
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: The little fresh fraced Heather.

548
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 5: That Andreu would come in about eleven am on Bankers Hours,

549
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 5: and I would tell her all these really lude dirty jokes.

550
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 6: Forgetting to say is that overall the atmosphere on this

551
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 6: particular set with Wes Craven was such a happy, happy experience.

552
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 6: I mean, I haven't been on a set recently that

553
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 6: had such Everyone was very joyous, really excited to be

554
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 6: making such a creative project. Everyone was bringing so many

555
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 6: interesting ideas to the set. I remember the day they

556
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 6: brought the idea of putting the spandex across the ceiling

557
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 6: so that Freddy could just lean over my head in

558
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 6: the bedroom when I'm over the and spandex had just

559
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 6: been invented, literally like the day before, and the special effects,

560
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 6: and I said, look, I'm going to go to Joe

561
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 6: Anne's or whatever store. I'm going to buy some of

562
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 6: this new fabric because I think it'll work. And we

563
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 6: got him there and back and then they stretched it over.

564
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 6: They tried it with the lighting and it was like

565
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 6: because about seventeen dollars to get efact.

566
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 5: Like be about ninety nine and it still holds up

567
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 5: that you know, it's the great era of practical special effects.

568
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: Wow, that is so fascinating and it's I'm still my

569
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: mind is still blown that we were watching this movie

570
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: yesterday and it had been a while since I had

571
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: seen it, and I actually forgot I did. I forgot

572
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: that young young Johnny Depp was in the movie. Do

573
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 4: you all stay in touch? I mean, what is does

574
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: the cast? I know it's been forty years, but I'm

575
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 4: just curious who you're in touch with still and with

576
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 4: this type of anniversary, is there a reason or a

577
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 4: point to catch up or to reach out.

578
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 5: Well, I've seen some of the cast, Amanda Wiss, I

579
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 5: see a lot, but I haven't run.

580
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: Into Johnny quite a while.

581
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 5: He was I had been in Europe on a movie,

582
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 5: and he was on every bus and every billboard in

583
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 5: Europe for a feature that he'd done, and it was

584
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 5: it was like the number one movie in Europe.

585
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: And I ran into him at a pub.

586
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 5: This is back in ker Viper Room days and I

587
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 5: ran into him at a pub and we were both

588
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 5: day drinking and and uh he I told he was

589
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 5: upset because I don't think the film had done as

590
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 5: well here in the States. And I said, Johnny, I said,

591
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 5: you're number one in Europe, you know. And I don't

592
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 5: know if he took my advice, but I know he

593
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 5: did go work in Europe for a while shortly after that,

594
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 5: and it was a really smart move.

595
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: I think that he did for his career.

596
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: Then.

597
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we get.

598
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 6: A chance to see a lot of the people from

599
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 6: all the Nightmare franchises when we go to city to city.

600
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 6: We do autograph conventions and comic cons a few times

601
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 6: a year, so we'll see the you know, Nightmare four,

602
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 6: Nightmare five, Ninemore six, Nightmare three. We see all of

603
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 6: the folks.

604
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: We should have We should have softball games.

605
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 5: We do.

606
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 6: We have these pictures of us that are like nine

607
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 6: or ten of.

608
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 5: Us to get screen more years versus the original Elm

609
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 5: Street Brats.

610
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 6: It's kind of a cub. Yeah, we're definitely a club.

611
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 6: But I do see Amanda wisz Off and she's my

612
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 6: one of my best friends. And I see Nick Corey

613
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 6: quite a bit. But yeah, unfortunately I have not run

614
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 6: into Johnny, and I really would love to, you know,

615
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 6: see him again and you know, exchange some stories about then.

616
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: Back then, I.

617
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: Didn't know where that story was going to go, right,

618
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: So me and Johnny Depp were day drinking. That could

619
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: have gone a lot of ways.

620
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 6: I was going to kick him under the table actually

621
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 6: and just say leave it at.

622
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: That, you know, and back to the makeup for a second.

623
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: How long did it take you to get into Freddie

624
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: makeup every day?

625
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 5: You know, I'd love to really be whiny and a

626
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 5: Christian martyr about the makeup, but it's only it only

627
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 5: takes about three and a half hours to be camera

628
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 5: ready unless I'm going for an extreme close up. When

629
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 5: I did find them at the Opera, that was a

630
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 5: fat four hours because that involved hair. I had kind

631
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 5: of like a big Maine like Beethoven of white hair.

632
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 5: And I did a Stephen King movie called The Mangler

633
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 5: and that was about five hours because that was prosthetics

634
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 5: combined with stippling combined with hair. But I don't brag

635
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 5: because I was again in a pub in London with

636
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 5: one of the general Orcs from Lord of the Rings.

637
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 5: You know that the Orcs, you know, and they're on

638
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 5: horseback and they're fighting Vigo Morgenston.

639
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: But I was talking to that guy and.

640
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 5: He told me if they had to be camera ready

641
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 5: by nine in the morning, they were in the makeup

642
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 5: chair at two am.

643
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: Oh wow, good seven hours.

644
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: Still three and a half I mean.

645
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, So Freddy's not the tough one. Tim Curry

646
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 5: for legend, I think Tim Curry and Legend was a

647
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 5: famously long makeup. I'm trying to think of it obviously,

648
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 5: the Elephant Man.

649
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a yeah, oh my god, so how

650
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: so wait?

651
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 4: I don't remember how many Nightmare on Elm Streets are

652
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 4: there or were there.

653
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: There's eight, there's eight.

654
00:31:59,200 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: Okay, there's eight.

655
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: Would you all be open to doing another one? I

656
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 4: mean it's revisualia.

657
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he always says that, shine up.

658
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, We're ready.

659
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: No, I would love We're ready.

660
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 6: We're gonna do it?

661
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 5: If yes, if they if they remake number three Dream Warriers,

662
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 5: which is arguably the most popular.

663
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 6: If they remake Wes Craven's.

664
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Speaker 5: New Nightmare, yes, or West Craven. But yeah, but if

665
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 5: they we made Dream Oyers, I would like to be

666
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: asked to play one of the medical faculty in the

667
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 5: therapy section that Heather's in, because I think it was.

668
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 6: Just it's actually crazy.

669
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 5: I think it was played by Priscilla Pointer, Amy Irving's mother,

670
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 5: the wonderful actress Priscilla Pointer. But it would be fun

671
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 5: to play it, you know, switch the genders and play

672
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 5: it as a man, because if I'm the skeptical doctor,

673
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 5: the cynical doctor that doesn't believe all these kids are

674
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 5: having a collective nightmare. I think that's a great cameo,

675
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 5: wink at the fans if there would be attending a

676
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 5: reboot of.

677
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: That Wait, but you would be coming back.

678
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: So that's maybe a good one to start with on

679
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: a remake.

680
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Speaker 1: But you don't see yourself your question. The first thought

681
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: I had was you being Freddy Krueger again.

682
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 5: But you're still I can't you, guys, I'm an old

683
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 5: dog now. I can't do those stunts from every angle.

684
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 5: I could probably do one take of a stunt now,

685
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 5: but I can't do them for you know, they cover them.

686
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 6: From different das four Robert. I know that's why the

687
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 6: stunt men get into your gift, you know.

688
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 5: But you get into that, it's still you still have

689
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 5: to sell, Robert.

690
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 6: Robert did do a lot of the work when we

691
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 6: were forty years ago.

692
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 5: But well, I did a lot of my stuff on

693
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 5: Freddy versus Jason, and I was well into my fifties

694
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 5: on that one.

695
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: But Heather, Robert, it sounds like you all are ready

696
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: to go. Has there been any talk, even rumblings of

697
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: the past couple of years that you all stay in contact.

698
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Is there a script on a with dust on it

699
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: on a shelf somewhere.

700
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 5: Fortunately, No, Unfortunately, I think there's a I think that

701
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 5: there's a bit of a tied uh.

702
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: I think with the rights now.

703
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 5: I know it's I know a time Warner and Warner Brothers,

704
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 5: and I know I think there for a while Platinum Dunes,

705
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 5: and I know that there's the West Craven Estate, and

706
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 5: there's just lots of people that sort of, uh, you know,

707
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 5: have have DIBs on on it that.

708
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: They have to negotiate.

709
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 5: But yeah, if they ever get around to doing a remake,

710
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 5: I would love to cameo in Dream Warriors, so you've

711
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 5: heard it at first.

712
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: I love that. Heather, What about you?

713
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 4: Would you want to reprise your role as Nancy? Would

714
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 4: you want to come in as another character?

715
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 6: I think any and all. I just love the series

716
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 6: so much. I love having played Nancy, you know, three

717
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 6: different times as a teenager, as a young woman, and

718
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 6: then as a mother. I really loved that arc and

719
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 6: I kind of would like to see her like as

720
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 6: an older woman, just to put a nice bow on it.

721
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: But night mare and menopause may.

722
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Perry menopause, my mayor. I don't know.

723
00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 7: It's not a terrible idea there. I'm not a hot

724
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 7: class right now, No, I mean I just feel so

725
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 7: indebted to this entire franchise for you know, a lot

726
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 7: of the good things in my life. So there would

727
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 7: never be an instance where I would reject it out

728
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 7: of hand. I would love to hear what you know,

729
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 7: anybody had to create based on all these great characters.

730
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 4: I love hearing that because so often, Look, we've been

731
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 4: interviewing celebrities and actors for three decades now, and so

732
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: many times you hear actors try to get away from

733
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: that iconic role that put them into the limelight because

734
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 4: they want to be something different, or they don't want

735
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 4: people to think of them only as that character.

736
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: Right.

737
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: Some people say it even ruins their careers because they're

738
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: only thought of as that one character. I love hearing

739
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 4: both of you embrace those characters, embrace how much they're loved,

740
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: embrace how much they're celebrated, and actually credit it with

741
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: helping your career. I think that's so cool because we

742
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 4: don't hear that that often. I'm sure you're familiar with it,

743
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 4: so that's a pretty.

744
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: Much that's exactly what happened, though you know, I mean it,

745
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 5: it's that thing, that gift that I got for working internationally,

746
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 5: you know. But it's also that I was established in

747
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 5: Hollywood when I did nightmanams It, I'd done a dozen

748
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 5: movies and I had a hit television series, so that

749
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 5: helped me make the decision. But I do remember at

750
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 5: some point, right around part three, when I realized, you know,

751
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 5: no one had sort of stepped into those shoes in

752
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 5: the horror genre, you know, that had been vacated by

753
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 5: Vincent Price and people like that, And it was sort

754
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 5: of like I was sort of like, hey, I will

755
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 5: you know, okay, because I could feel the momentum of

756
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 5: the franchise and the popularity and the rising of horror

757
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 5: and science fiction and fantasy films in popular culture. You know,

758
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 5: we used to have westerns and gangster movies every week,

759
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 5: but now they're every week in the box office, there's

760
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 5: a fantasy film or a horror film or a thriller

761
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 5: you know, or you know, and those movies travel better internationally.

762
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 5: You know, some of our greatest comedians in America are

763
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 5: unknown in Europe because comedy doesn't travel as well. But

764
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 5: a great action film or a fantasy film or a

765
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 5: horror film. They speak that sort of international language of cinema,

766
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 5: and everybody.

767
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 6: Understands say that. I mean, I think you'd be hard

768
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 6: pressed to find better roles actually even today than Nancy Thompson.

769
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 6: I mean, she was such an incredible character. She not

770
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 6: only was the dramatically, but she had to do all

771
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 6: these stunts and she had to fight Freddy. So it's

772
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 6: rare that you get a part if you're just a

773
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 6: lead in a straight movie where you have such an

774
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Speaker 6: amazing amount of things that you have to do in

775
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 6: a film like that. So, I mean a lot of

776
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 6: people disparage horror movies for a long time, but I

777
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 6: always said, well, show me another character that is as

778
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 6: you know, tough as Nancy or has such a great part,

779
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 6: and it's hard to find them as for a young

780
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 6: woman in Hollywood back then.

781
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 5: And people forget that whole dynamic between Heather and her

782
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 5: mother played by Ronnie Blakeley.

783
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: The star of Nashville.

784
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 5: But that whole dynamic, I mean, that was serious stuff

785
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 5: because Wes Craven was saying that the adults are flawed,

786
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 5: you know, and it's a loss of innocence with the kids.

787
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 5: Throughout the franchise, but the adults are actually more damage

788
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 5: than the kids, because it was that moment of time

789
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 5: in the early eighties when we became aware that there

790
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 5: can be damage from divorce, and there was damage from

791
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 5: alcoholism and damage from from pill taking, which we know

792
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 5: what's happened with that in recent years. And Wes was

793
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 5: mining that that's part of the nightmare on Elm Street

794
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: is the damaged of America. And Freddie is rearing his

795
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 5: ugly head and infiltrating that. You know, people forget Elm Street.

796
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 5: Elm Street is in that book we all read to

797
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 5: learn how to read, you know, Dick and Jane and

798
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 5: their dog Spot and their cat Puff and Elm Street.

799
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 5: But a whole generation, many generations did. It was a

800
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 5: reading guide, but it was also I mean every town,

801
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 5: as they say in part six, every town does have

802
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 5: an Elm Street. Of course, it also has a broadway

803
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 5: in a main street and an Oak Street. But every

804
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 5: town has an Elm Street. But also what's the name

805
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 5: of the street that our beloved President John Kennedy was

806
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 5: shot on Elm Street in Dallas, and Wes knew that

807
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 5: as symbolic that that was a loss of innocence, the

808
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 5: death of our president, John F. Kennedy was an American

809
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 5: loss of innocence and and and and that could be

810
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 5: construed as the Nightmare on Elm Street. And Wes was

811
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 5: talking about loss of innocence because Freddy kills children and

812
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 5: children are the future.

813
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: Well, night Merrel Elm Street is more cerebral than I

814
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: gave it credit. And after talking to I know.

815
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 6: Watched it seventy five times yet.

816
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: Just going to be at the end of the show.

817
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: But you know what, this is so cool because I

818
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 4: think oftentimes DJ and I and I've had to defend

819
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: my love of horror movies for a very long time.

820
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 4: I think people think that it's some silly you know, uh,

821
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: just non cerebral form of entertainment where you're just inundated

822
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 4: with fear. But so often when you think about Wes Craven,

823
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: when you think about Stephen King, these are some of

824
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: my favorite like authors and I have grown up loving

825
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: fantasy and horror. But I love how you just put that,

826
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 4: because there is so much social commentary oftentimes in these

827
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 4: horror movies, and now I love how they're even infiltrated

828
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Speaker 4: with some comedy as well, so there's lighter moments and

829
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: scary moments, but I just think there's such a full

830
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: experience and entertainment experience that actually does have deeper meeting oftentimes.

831
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Speaker 4: So I love Robert how you I didn't realize all

832
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 4: of what you just said, but it's part of the

833
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: reason that maybe even subconsciously we love it, we don't

834
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: even realize what we're absorbing.

835
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Speaker 6: Well, what you mentioned about the comedy is so true

836
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 6: because I have, you know, the horror movies that I see,

837
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 6: comedy's actually missing in a lot of them. But the

838
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 6: final say, ten minutes of Nightmare on Elm Street has

839
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 6: so many funny moments where Nancy's like breaking the windows

840
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 6: saying get my dad, you know, and the guy's like,

841
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 6: maybe I better go get certainly, you know, I mean,

842
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 6: it's this humor that's a laugh, and then there's terror

843
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 6: laughing and then a terrar laughing.

844
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Speaker 5: Well, Wes Craven and Sam Raymie, the Great Sam Raimie

845
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 5: explored that early on, you know, with the Evil Dead films,

846
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 5: and Wes. Wes told me once that you can't just

847
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 5: scare people for ninety minutes. If you let them laugh

848
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 5: a couple of times, then you can sit. They relax,

849
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 5: they release that tension and you can set them up

850
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 5: to scare them again. And he was so deft with

851
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 5: that scream in his Scream franchise, especially.

852
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Speaker 6: Well, especially when Marge brings the vodka bottle out of

853
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 6: the linen closet and it's at this really heightened tension

854
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 6: when Nancy has to go see if Glenn is dead

855
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 6: or not, and that moment when she grabs the vodka

856
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 6: bottle and chugs in the hallway is the biggest laugh

857
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 6: I ever get. I mean ever here in the movie theater.

858
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 6: People just want to let.

859
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 7: It all go at that they.

860
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 6: Need to laugh, and it's always like a huge laughter moment.

861
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: There's a whole new sub genre now of horror that

862
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: is horror comedy, and we're starting to get into that

863
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: a little bit. But to you Ole's point, some horror

864
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: movies they just need a little moment of levity, just

865
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: give us a little relief. It almost sets you up

866
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: to relax, and then they're coming for you. And you

867
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: were mentioning just a moment ago, how you kind of

868
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: were able to progress and mature in some of the movies,

869
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 1: from a girl to a young woman to a mother.

870
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: That is the model, I guess that Jamie Lee Curtis

871
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: also has in Halloween to where it carried through the

872
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: franchise to where her daughter and even her granddaughter were

873
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: a part of the other ones. But I get I

874
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: can't think of another besides you too. But did you

875
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: have you had no model for this? Did you have

876
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: any screen queens or anybody to really emuate or you

877
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: looked up to say, I like how they did that

878
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: in the horror movie? Or were you just pioneering?

879
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 6: Well, you know, Wes Craven was my you know, he's

880
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 6: kind of my coach all along the way, because I

881
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 6: would I would be really confused, like how am I

882
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 6: supposed to play this, Wes? And and I'd ask him

883
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 6: so many questions about that, just that kind of thing,

884
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 6: like how am I going to make people believe that

885
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 6: this is really happening? Especially in New Nightmare? And you know,

886
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 6: all along the way he just had really steady advice,

887
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 6: and he he would tell me, you know, you know,

888
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 6: just the mood to create and how to get through it,

889
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 6: and and I really I just couldn't have done it

890
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 6: without him. He gave me so much confidence. And then

891
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 6: he also he also just taught me how to be

892
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 6: an actor, you know, who has to you know, lead

893
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 6: a movie, has to tell the story. And I'll never

894
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 6: forget those lefts and I just have everything in the

895
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 6: world to owe to him for that.

896
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: Heather's being modest.

897
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 5: Just prior to the original Nightmare in Elm Street, I

898
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 5: think she starred with Joe Anne Woodward in a film,

899
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 5: so you know.

900
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that was like that was the daughter and

901
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 6: I was in four scenes, you know, it was.

902
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: That's some good season.

903
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: How the original movie, how long did it take to film?

904
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: Do you all remember? I'm curious because it was.

905
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 6: Such a it was five or six weeks.

906
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

907
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 5: We shot at the old Desilu Studios in Hollywood.

908
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 6: I had Lucille's ball Ball's old dressing room.

909
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

910
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 5: I love Lucy and I think they'd done the Partridge

911
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 5: Family there because I used to see some memorabilia stuck

912
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 5: in the back on the back of an old scenery

913
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 5: flat in the back, and they were like polaroids, you

914
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 5: know of David Cassidy.

915
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: You'll shut it out.

916
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 6: It was a really dilapidated old studio. I mean it

917
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 6: was really romantic though well I didn't know any better.

918
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 6: I just thought it was dusty and it was falling.

919
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: Down Futon's with cigarette burns in them.

920
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 6: You think Carver was like, really it was the.

921
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: Now you said it took six weeks to shoot it.

922
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: You all didn't know what you had and what it

923
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: was going to become. How long did it take after

924
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: the movie came out that you all say, oh, wow,

925
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: we got a winner here.

926
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 5: Well, I knew we'd made something special because I'd been around,

927
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 5: you know, it was maybe my thirteenth or fourteenth film.

928
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: But I just wanted people to see it.

929
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 5: I just wanted us to be able to get it

930
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 5: out there because you know, we had We actually kind

931
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 5: of run out of money towards the end, and I

932
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 5: think they had this new line Cinema had to sell

933
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 5: the video rights.

934
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: They eventually bought them back.

935
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 5: But I just wanted it to get distributed and get

936
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 5: it out there because I knew it was something special.

937
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 5: But for me it was I was in Italy getting

938
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 5: an award in Milan and for a television project in

939
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 5: my rented tuxedo, and the fans grabbed me and pulled

940
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 5: me out of the limo and passed me over the

941
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 5: crowd of chanting Freddy Freddy, And that's when I knew

942
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 5: this is this is right after it had opened, and

943
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 5: I didn't it was already a hit in Europe.

944
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: So that's when I knew, how I.

945
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 6: Think I knew when actually Wes asked me to be

946
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 6: in Nightmare three Dream Warriors, when he said, you know,

947
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 6: I've written this script and you're in it again, And

948
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 6: then I thought, oh, wow, they're doing another they're doing

949
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 6: another sequel, and it must be doing well.

950
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: Sat when you were doing your series.

951
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 6: I mean it was just after I did this series.

952
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: She was doing a series then the Ten of Us.

953
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 5: But so yeah, that yeah, and then ate in the

954
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 5: middle of that she found out that we're going to

955
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 5: be three, and so.

956
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 6: That way, I mean, I just his faith to do

957
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 6: another show with me as the lead. I felt, oh,

958
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 6: it's doing well enough where he would put me in.

959
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 6: But like I said, those three years between those first

960
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 6: one and the third one, I didn't really think it

961
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 6: was like that big of a deal. I mean, I

962
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 6: don't know, I didn't get pulled out of the limo.

963
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 6: I didn't get like sir body serves across that.

964
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 5: Even even when that happened, even when that that just

965
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 5: meant to me that we had a hit movie and

966
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 5: that I could work in Europe, but that I didn't

967
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 5: know that. Forty years later, you know we'd be we'd

968
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 5: be here talking to you about this.

969
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: All right, forty years later, still to this day, the

970
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore, of of of bad guys, ha's got to

971
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 1: be Freddy Jason, Michael Myers. Who else goals on that list?

972
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: Are those who leather Face?

973
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 6: Maybe leather Face? Yeah?

974
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 5: Probably? I think he has his foot in the door.

975
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 5: Wonderful actor Doug Bradley, who's pin Head Phead? Maybe in

976
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 5: that hell Wow, because that's a real Those are real, strange, dark,

977
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 5: kinky films, and they deserve a.

978
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: Place in the pantheon.

979
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 6: Yeah.

980
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 2: Does Chuck Barker Flyve Barker's got some dark ship?

981
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: Does Chucky count in that group? Chuckie?

982
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 6: I don't think so.

983
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: I go with no.

984
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go no. I think we just got the

985
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 4: Mount Rushmore. I think that's exactly it. That's perfect.

986
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 6: You have to be I don't know the doll thing.

987
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 6: I don't know. It just doesn't seem right on Mount Rushmore.

988
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: I kicked a Chucky across the room.

989
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: It makes a good point.

990
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 5: Here's our story. Here's the story for you. When I

991
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 5: was doing Nightmare and Elm Street Part two. In the

992
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 5: trailer dressing room in Pasadena. As I was getting my

993
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 5: makeup on, my makeup man Kevin Yaeger was also doing

994
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 5: the prototypes for Chucky the Doll, and so I sat

995
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 5: there getting my makeup on and saw he would bring

996
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 5: them in to get he was working on them and

997
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 5: to get people's opinions.

998
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: So I saw all the evolution of the Chucky doll.

999
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 5: He originally had short red crew cut and he was fattered,

1000
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 5: you know, and they sort of kept modifying him, you know.

1001
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 5: And one of the producers, Sarah Risher of the Nightmare

1002
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 5: on Elm Street Films, she just had a baby and

1003
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 5: she was really a hands on producer. So in the

1004
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 5: it was Freddy Krueger and whatever the new incarnation of

1005
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 5: the Chucky Doll. And then next to that was the baby,

1006
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 5: the baby creatit, you know, with this naked baby crime.

1007
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: That's that poor child is scarred for life.

1008
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: Robert, how how long would it take Freddy Krueger to

1009
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: take out Chucky if that was a Freddy versus Chucky moon.

1010
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 5: The first two things you got on us know about

1011
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 5: Freddie one as I dropped that little sucker, But the

1012
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 5: other thing you have to know is if any of

1013
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 5: the other monsters fall asleep after they know or they

1014
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 5: know who I am. This is the whole point of

1015
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 5: Freddy versus Jason. But if they acknowledge me in my

1016
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 5: existence and they sleep, I've got that conduit into their

1017
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 5: subconsciousness and I can exploit. For instance, Jason's afraid of water,

1018
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 5: so I can exploit water. I can make it rain,

1019
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 5: you know, I can make them dream of drowning.

1020
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 6: Robert's been thinking about this alone.

1021
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 5: No, really, these are elements. These are elements in the world,

1022
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 5: fire and water and air. And that's what Jason's fear is.

1023
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: He is I here? Where's he from? Cam Crystal Lake?

1024
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 5: So it's just that that that's if they follow us,

1025
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 5: I've got them.

1026
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing.

1027
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 6: I love that the nose comes in, Are there?

1028
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 4: I I that is so creepy to hear you say that.

1029
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 4: I love it, though, creepy in a really, really good way.

1030
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 4: I'm curious if you had to pick both of you

1031
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 4: your all time favorite horror movie, you can only pick one.

1032
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 3: What is it?

1033
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm going to say, just because I've been asked

1034
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 6: this question a lot, and It's the first horror movie

1035
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 6: that I really loved and was scared by his Wizard

1036
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 6: of Oz because for a little kid, that one was

1037
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 6: terrifying to see that and the trees that come alive,

1038
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 6: and the flying monkeys and the Wicked Witch and everything

1039
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,959
Speaker 6: that happens at Oz. I think that that one really

1040
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 6: set in motion my great fear and the first character

1041
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 6: I ever played as an actor was like a wicked

1042
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 6: Witch kind of character when I was seven years old,

1043
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 6: and I totally modeled myself on that witch. So that's

1044
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 6: my favorite and most influential horror movie.

1045
00:50:59,160 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: I think.

1046
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 5: For me, it's Brian De Palmer's nineteen seventy four film Sisters,

1047
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 5: low budget, starring Margot Kidder, Lois Lang from Superman as

1048
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 5: Simese twins from French speaking Quebec in Montreal, Canada, and.

1049
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 2: A great great actor.

1050
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 5: William Finley playing my favorite mad doctor ever. He's the

1051
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 5: mad doctor who falls in love with his Siamese twin

1052
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 5: patient and he's got to cut them and separate them

1053
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 5: so he can have his for himself. It's just a

1054
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 5: terrific film. Some of the best split screen editing and

1055
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 5: parallelism I've ever seen in.

1056
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: Movies amazing early to Palma. We cannot wait.

1057
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 4: We will be checking out, and we are just so

1058
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 4: honored to have the two of you here. It was

1059
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: such a wonderful surprise and so well timed, not just

1060
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 4: with Halloween.

1061
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: But with our recent air travel.

1062
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: I just I'm still kind of like in shock that

1063
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 4: you all are sitting in front of us. So I mean,

1064
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, my teenage self would be dying right

1065
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 4: now because I was so obsessed with these movies, and

1066
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 4: so many people still are, and all to your credit,

1067
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 4: Wes Craven's credit.

1068
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: But thank you all so much for being read.

1069
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 6: Thank you Amy, thank you maj thank you so much

1070
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 6: for having us.

1071
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, hey you, Qutie Piere.

1072
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: Okay, no, we got to land on a better note

1073
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: than that. Say say something, Sep, Robert, whatever.

1074
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 6: You do, don't fall asleep.

1075
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god, guys, love you so much. Thank you.

1076
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: We'll see you in the next nightmare, all right, Yes,

1077
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: thank you.

1078
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 3: Bye,