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Speaker 1: Good morning, SWIMML and welcome to the No Dunks podcast

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Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Friday. Me first, this is

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Speaker 1: film session, and today we're breaking down nineteen eighty five's

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Speaker 1: Teen Wolf. I'm Jay Skeets and alongside me thanks to

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Speaker 1: the power of technology, task Mellis. Hey, everybody, what's up tasking?

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Speaker 1: We got the bearded one, Trey Kirby. Hey, wolfman in

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Speaker 1: the house. We got the international man of mystery taking

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Speaker 1: it to the max, probably wearing sunglasses.

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Speaker 2: Lee Ellis Friends, no sunglasses, indul this morning, m m.

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Speaker 1: And last but not least, the man making the magic happen.

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Speaker 1: It's jend. Hello, there he is, and here we are

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Speaker 1: before we catch some sweet van waves. Guys, little housekeeping,

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Speaker 1: email us your NBA questions and comments to No Dunks

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Speaker 1: at the Athletic dot Com. Will be beach stepping it

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Speaker 1: up next week. I want to remind you to follow

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Speaker 1: us on social media, both Twitter and Instagram at No

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Speaker 1: Dunk Sinc. Lee did a great job opening up an

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Speaker 1: old pack of basketball cards yesterday on Instagram live with

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Speaker 1: a special guest, Shuman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Shum's is great. He was really good at that.

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Speaker 2: And what I really appreciated the most was after we

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Speaker 2: wherever he went, and well, actually, well actually me after Cards.

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Speaker 2: I mean he wants to really preserve the integrity of it.

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Speaker 2: So I thought that was great. I appreciated that.

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Speaker 3: A lot chums on Schuman can't let anything go. It's

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Speaker 3: just the way he rolls. Everything needs to be retroactively

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Speaker 3: created or corrected. Actually, you were the original fact checker

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Speaker 3: on the basketball jams, right lead. How did that feel

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Speaker 3: to be corrected?

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Speaker 2: Well, no, it's fine when it's human because that's his stick,

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Speaker 2: human stick. But really tests, I think you and him

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Speaker 2: need to get on and do some sort of video

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Speaker 2: great you and him just you know, you've got a

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Speaker 2: great online relationship. I think you need to take that

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Speaker 3: Now, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I like that idea.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: Schuman has definitely been definitely been following the you know,

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Speaker 1: self quarantine rules. That guy was white as a ghost.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't seen the sun in like seven weeks. Oh,

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Speaker 1: good job, shoe stand inside. Appreciate that. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: on Facebook Facebook dot Com slash no Dunk's ink. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's official. We're now on Facebook. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you check out last night's speed Shill one on one

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Speaker 1: podcast lead chatting with Australian broadcaster Bruce mcaveney about his

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Speaker 1: forty year career covering the world of sports. Lee. I'm

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Speaker 1: really enjoying it. I'm an Olympic nerd, so I really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the Bruce is is just his specialty really

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson race from eighty eight. I thought it was great,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I think the podcast went for about

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Speaker 2: It was just great. Bruce has got such an encyclopedic

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Speaker 1: for the best sports podcast over at the Webby Awards.

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Speaker 1: We're talking wolves, all right. The movie film Sessions Movie

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Speaker 1: Today nineteen eighty five's teen Wolf Ley really wanted this one,

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Speaker 1: IMDb synopsis, an ordinary high school student discovers that his

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Speaker 1: That's an instant smash. Oh my god, Michael J. Fox,

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Speaker 5: Terrible names, terrible names. First of all, shout out to

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Speaker 1: Right, right, Well, did anyone else have any scenes where

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll admit it. I was smiling with styles, was

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh my goodness, come on, I gotta

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Speaker 1: But he pulled it off.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 5: Especially in that opening scene. It's almost like you you

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Speaker 3: My name is Prince. I am funky, but man, it

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Speaker 1: Well, oh yeah, and why didn't his dad react to

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's what That's what makes it great though,

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Speaker 1: I don't know maybe maybe maybe.

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Speaker 5: Spoilers right right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't agree more. He is the that's the one

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Speaker 5: It's like he's just this weird scumbag and and but

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Speaker 2: He doesn't care that they get blown out either. He's

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Speaker 3: He's the very first game of the season, he walks

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Speaker 1: A great character.

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Speaker 3: It is good. It is a good that never play

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Speaker 1: I was actually shocked because I hadn't seen this movie

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Speaker 1: secondary plot point where he's making money off Team Wolf, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You're telling me you don't want to go and have

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Speaker 2: They're selling T shirts. He wants to get him everywhere.

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Speaker 1: He's doing it.

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Speaker 3: he's he's killing it at the party, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: What I mean, Like what a host he is in there,

439
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,360
Speaker 2: taking over everything he turns up. You know, he's got

440
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: his keg he's a little disappointed to see all those

441
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 2: other ones there, but that doesn't let it, that doesn't

442
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 2: knock his night out. He's there saying, recent, I'm the host,

443
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it, and I just you know,

444
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 2: I just couldn't help but stop thinking about mouth from

445
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 2: Goodies as well, those two, you know, just the same

446
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 2: set of fast talking, cool dudes, like that classic time

447
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: for the cool dude, the cool wise guy in the eighties.

448
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: Okay, while we're while we're at the party, who the

449
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 1: hell was the older woman wearing lingerie holding the top hat?

450
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 5: Who? Yeah, I don't know. It's just a random girl,

451
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 5: just a great ten girl.

452
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 3: You know, she wasn't older styles.

453
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: She looked so much older. And I know everybody's like

454
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: old in this movie, even the teenagers are all like

455
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: the actors are all like twenty five, but she looked

456
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 1: way older.

457
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 5: I think Lewis was the only age appropriate character, the

458
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 5: only age appropriate actor. And then he and he he

459
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 5: appropriately gets scared when teen Wolf comes around, and we

460
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 5: know we don't see him again.

461
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we don't ever get really a follow up

462
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: to Lewis being scared? Really right? I thought that was

463
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: weird too. It's like, I mean, okay, you should be

464
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 1: scared that guy's turning into a werewolf, and nobody everybody

465
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 1: else is cool with it, like we said. But also

466
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 1: there's no real follow up to that at all, Like

467
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: he's just all right, he's a little scared of him.

468
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 4: No, everybody just moves on. I mean, Scott himself is

469
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 4: a little freaked out at first. He's like, what am

470
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 4: I going to be doing stealing babies for the rest

471
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 4: of my life? But then his dad tells them it's

472
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 4: all right, man, were wolves there are a lot of benefits.

473
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 4: You can do things other guys can't. That's the only

474
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 4: benefit there is. You lists literally nothing else. It's like,

475
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 4: when you want it, you can have power. And also,

476
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 4: were wolves are people just like anyone else. No, they're

477
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 4: not man, they're werewolves. Yeah, but but Scott gets freaked

478
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 4: out by it.

479
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 1: And then in the next scene he's like, whatever.

480
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 4: I'm a werewolf now, And apparently being a werewolf makes

481
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 4: you more skill than everything. I don't know, I would

482
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 4: think that bringing dog dna into your body actually opposite way.

483
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 4: But you know, were wolves are.

484
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: People just like anyone else.

485
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 5: What doll I know?

486
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, we got to get to the transformation scene

487
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: and then and then his dad's transformation scene too, which

488
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: is incredible. But just one more thing. I did love styles.

489
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: One of my favorite scenes was when he's trying to

490
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: score the k yeah Tony's liquor and he's getting shut down. Yeah,

491
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: And then you know, later we get Scott trying and

492
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: love him going in there with the I'd like a

493
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: keg of beer please, like but with JD. We get

494
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: a really weird camera shot there in the liquor store

495
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: from Scott's perspective, and then we see his eyes turning

496
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: red and the voice gets demonic and stuff like that,

497
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: and the guy that running the liquor store freaks out

498
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: and gives him a keg. But that was a weird,

499
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: weird shot that we didn't see. Really again, I don't.

500
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 5: Think, yeah, it was weird. I don't know. I guess

501
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 5: he was feeling creative that day.

502
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: Yea, for sure.

503
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 5: And I can confirm, having gone to high school in

504
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 5: the eighties, you definitely need to bring a keg to

505
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 5: a high school party, like you cannot get into a

506
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 5: party without a keg. Wow, experience was very realistic.

507
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: No sarcasm, no sarcasm. Well that's funny you said that.

508
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: I read that the director this takes place in Nebraska.

509
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: I think the movie does that. The director went to Nebraska.

510
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: I read that. So I don't know if it's true

511
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: to like talk to teenagers to get an idea of

512
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: like partying. So JD, I guess what you were doing,

513
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: and you know, southern Ontario they were doing Nebraska. You

514
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: had to have a keg to show up to a party.

515
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: But I guess it checks out.

516
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 5: Keg shaving cream. Uh what else?

517
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: There was more weed than I expected at a I

518
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 4: would say.

519
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: Yep, I think that's true. You see a couple of shots,

520
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: a lot of sunglasses indoors, people wearing them at night.

521
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 1: We get the at the party, we get Scott and

522
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 1: boof ending up in the closet. That was a thing too,

523
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 1: That was a thing during my time, even still going on.

524
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: You know, seven minutes in Heaven and stuff like that.

525
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: Again there high school, well, no, probably like grade seven,

526
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: you know eight, like pre high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

527
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: that's true. I guess they're maybe a little old for

528
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: doing that. But anyway, he uh, they're in there. They

529
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: got this like long relationship. They basically been friends forever

530
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: to the point where she'll go play basketball with the

531
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: dad about a friendship. Booth just came over for a

532
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: little one on one. Yeah, we get the the two

533
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: of them in the closet, Scott and Booth making out

534
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: and Scott, I guess accidentally he does claws Boof's back

535
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: and just that shirt is torn to shreds, which was

536
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: sort of a look at the time if I remember.

537
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: But yeah, but Boof her relationship with Scott slashed the wolf.

538
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: I found so weird throughout the movie because she's like, hey,

539
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 1: stop being the wolf. I like Scott, but then like

540
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: a sentence later, is always like, hey, yeah, I'll still

541
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: dance with your wolf man, and I sort of still

542
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: like you. It's really weird, right She didn't like say,

543
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: like really put her foot down to me.

544
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. She caved pretty quickly then, you know, because he

545
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: was like, no, I'm going as a wolf, and she's like,

546
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: all right, then wolf still dance. It's fine.

547
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 1: Task. What did you think of the scene not long

548
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: after where Scott returns home and starts transforming into the

549
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: werewolf in the bathroom.

550
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: I guess the huge part asitive being a werewolf is

551
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: that you get to use a blow dryer. I've never

552
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: really cared about using a blow dryer, but my gud,

553
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: the sound on that one as well. I was I

554
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 3: was really into that scene and then boom, the blow

555
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: dryer felt like it hit me in my living room.

556
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: It was super loud.

557
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: Um.

558
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what to say otherwise

559
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: about that scene.

560
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: He just looked so it looks so hilarious. I mean,

561
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: it looks so crappy and just creepy crappy. I mean,

562
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 1: he looked like he was turning into Tom Cruise from

563
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: Vanilla Sky at one point, you know, when he's got

564
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: his whole face mangled up. That's what I thought it was.

565
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, because Michael Jackson's Thriller came out

566
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 2: only like probably eighteen months to two years before, and

567
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: I thought the transformation that Michael Jackson does in that

568
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: was kind of similar to what Scott Howard was doing.

569
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: You know. You see the face in the ears sort

570
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: of all bubbling and transforming like that, and then all

571
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he's like instantly changed, transformed into the wolf,

572
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: and he's like, all right, all right, this is fine,

573
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: you know.

574
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: No, he goes Louise.

575
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 4: Right their whole body just turns into a completely different creature,

576
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 4: and all you can think of.

577
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: Is Jesuase he's such a he's just such a good kids.

578
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: He won't even swear there. He's got to see Jesules.

579
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: I mean you said it, Lee, Like this movie feels

580
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: at times like a complete thriller ripoff Michael Jackson. Thriller

581
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: rip off? You like that came out needy too, if

582
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: I if I remember correctly, like really early eighties and

583
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: this a couple years later, like you said, but like

584
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: he shows up to the dance basically dressed as smooth

585
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: criminal Michael Jackson. Yeah, and they basically are doing like

586
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: the move from Thriller at one point, like that wolf

587
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: dance move, Like yeah, this is like complete and ripoff

588
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah.

589
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: And everyone in the school knew it as well, and

590
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: they knew when was coming and they knew their move.

591
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 2: So it was just incredible choreography there to get everyone

592
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: on the same page so quickly about that, I thought,

593
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: you know, because you don't see him at any point

594
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: saying okay, you know, to the rest of the school,

595
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the wolf and we gotta do this dance.

596
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: Let's rehearse. It's just go out there and everyone's like,

597
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, for this, this is great.

598
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could up.

599
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: It's like four steps and then you spasm your body

600
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: to look sort of like a wolf and you open

601
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 4: your mouth and you go around the whole room.

602
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah. Yeah, so okay, so back to back

603
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: to like when he's turning into the wolf Scott is

604
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: and then we get dad revealing I'm a were wolf too,

605
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: and again I wish it was gonna skip a generation.

606
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: Sorry it didn't soun We get the funniest scene in

607
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: this movie when we see his dad, Harold, looking like

608
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: a were wolf and he looks like an adorable chipmuman.

609
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: That killed me. I laughed out loud at that, and

610
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: I read that according to the director, when the test

611
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: audiences first saw Scott's dad as the werewolf, they went insane,

612
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: and he said the laughter was so loud it obliterated

613
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: the next minute of the film. So people got to

614
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: kick out of it.

615
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 5: I guess they are they laughing at the right reason, though,

616
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 5: I mean, he looked ridiculous. Oh was he supposed to

617
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 5: look ridiculous? I mean, I'm not sure.

618
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it's a great, great point.

619
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 5: Because a laugh is a laugh. It's a comedy. So fine.

620
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and his name was Harry. It was his name Harry, Harold. Yeah,

621
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: oh Harold. Oh so Harry. And the Henderson's was a

622
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: spin off of Harold.

623
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, that's right. So the next morning, Scott

624
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: and his dad they talk about it. That's where we

625
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: get to wear wolves are people lyned? And we find

626
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: out Scott is allergic to eggs, and we really should

627
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: have explored that story. That's where I perked up. What

628
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: guy can't eat eggs?

629
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I thought, especially wolves being famous for

630
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 5: raiding chicken coops. You know, it doesn't add up.

631
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it doesn't. Did I mean? I know

632
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: we'll eventually grade this movie at the end. But JD

633
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: does Michael J. Fox carry this one? Is obviously a

634
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: hilariously lame movie in your opinion? Yes, you know.

635
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the best thing about the movie. He's a

636
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 5: very likable guy. Like he is playing Marty McFly and

637
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 5: I guess that's his go to and considering unhappy he

638
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 5: was being on that set, he killed it.

639
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great. Yeah, he's on I notice watching this

640
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: and I know he is not the basketball player, so

641
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. That's a body double. Michael J.

642
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: Fox is like five foot four, and you could tell

643
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: the double was like obviously five foot four. But anyway,

644
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: I thought Fox, I think he's in these scenes. He's

645
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: like an incredibly gifted physical comedian. Oh yeah, Like the

646
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: carrying and dropping the hardwood supplies, like that's I mean,

647
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: I know it's silly, it's slapsticky whatever, but it's like

648
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: actually a skill to like still make that somewhat funny.

649
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: And just that trying to carry a million things and

650
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: dropping things and stuff like that. I thought that was perfect.

651
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: And then again, I don't know if it's him. Maybe

652
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: it's not the running and slipping in the wet school halways,

653
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's hilarious. I think that is off to do.

654
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: I think it is too. That was it.

655
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 5: That's my one of my favorite scenes in the movie.

656
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 5: And getting to the carrying the stuff. His physical acting.

657
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 5: It wasn't that much stuff, right, like he makes it

658
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 5: look like it's sure more stuff. It's two cans of paint,

659
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: two reams of material, two bag hutches from the from

660
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 5: the Mister Show sketch. Because there's they're filled with bags

661
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 5: like paper bags. Yeah, when he drops and one roll

662
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 5: of mask tape that he has to put in his mouth,

663
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 5: and that dick, mister Thorn throws the mask tape right at.

664
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: Him and he catches it. Like what reflex is it?

665
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

666
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: He does, well, he's got reflexes of the wolf.

667
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

668
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we uh, I guess I'll keep going here. You know,

669
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: Scott reveals the secret of Styles, who you guys talked about.

670
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: He agrees to keep it a secret because he's gonna

671
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: make some money off this. I was one thing we like.

672
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: Soon after that we get to the basketball. We're finally

673
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: really here at the basketball. Hold on the second scheme.

674
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: This is where this is where I was like, sorry, Styles,

675
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: can't do it anymore, can't root for you. He's a homophobe.

676
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah that Michael J.

677
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: Fox told him that he was a werewolf then if

678
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: he had been a game man, Yes, that's right.

679
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: It drops a hard f does he know? Oh yeah,

680
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah this was this one. You're like, wow,

681
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: this dated itself right here. There's some offensive part. So

682
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: this is by far the worst I probably I would agree.

683
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh, it's actually kind of nice how shocking

684
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 5: it is to hear that word now, you know, Like,

685
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 5: it's just shows how much progress we've made. I mean

686
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 5: we haven't. We're very far from eradicating homophobia completely, obviously,

687
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 5: but to have the hard f dropped and all of

688
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 5: us be likeugh, like to be to recoil from it,

689
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 5: it's that shows some progress.

690
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: True, It's true, that's true. Yeah, you like you like

691
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: perk up, You're like, whoa hold on? What the hell

692
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: is that in a movie?

693
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 5: This is a turn?

694
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, sorry, I'm glad you brought that. You slipped

695
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: that in there.

696
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: Trade.

697
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: I was going to ask, because we get to the

698
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: basketball why was Pamela at the game that Scott turned

699
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: into a werewolf? Why was she there?

700
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 5: But she kind of noticed him before, right, like he

701
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 5: he's got some animal magnetism and she's into dogs as

702
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 5: it turns out, so there's something about him, So she's there, I.

703
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: Think, Okay, yeah, because after that other game where he growls,

704
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: and then afterwards in the locker room he has that

705
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: big long hair in his chest. After that is when

706
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: then they're the Lucks together and Pamela SA looks at

707
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: him and is like, there's something different about you Okay,

708
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: it's I'm all excited for her.

709
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, that's why she's That's a great explanation.

710
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: I'll take that. So Scott turns into the were wolf,

711
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: turns into the wolf. He's you know, he's dunking the ball,

712
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: he's spinning it on his finger. He's running back on

713
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: defense like he's that maxis nice guy doing a weird person.

714
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: They only notice that I lack it out of that,

715
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: and he just goes Yeah, he goes full Jordan, full Lebron.

716
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: Here he goes around the back a million times, just

717
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: go to move.

718
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: Holy they just they just replay about two or three

719
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: baskets about ten times. That's all it is, is just from

720
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: different angles. But yeah, he's gone that really weird behind

721
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: the back and then he sort of does the bucket

722
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: shut layup.

723
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and he's got he's blocking everything insight too.

724
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: You can just tell. Even the body double, of course,

725
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: who I think was a college basketball player. I forget

726
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: his name. I had it in my notes somewhere. I'm

727
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: not gonna go look for it, but I'm pretty sure

728
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: like even the body double is jumping off a trampoline

729
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: right like that, they've placed conveniently out of frame for

730
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: all these crazy blocks and Dunya. Yeah, yeah, okay, so

731
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: yeah we get this. I mean, what'd you think, Tasks,

732
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: What do you think of the basketball in general in

733
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: this movie, be it when he's a human or when

734
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: he's a wolf.

735
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: The director did not care to make it a sequential

736
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: sequence whatsoever. It was just random. A bucket was scored

737
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, ten guys are on a

738
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: fast break. It just didn't make any logical sense. And yeah,

739
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: it was just here here, the cameras do some stuff.

740
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: We'll just splice it together. Not a lot of care

741
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: put into it, and not a lot of care to

742
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: make Michael J. Fox able to shoot a free throw.

743
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: You know, I understand that he is unable. He's not

744
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: he's not a very talented basketball player when he's Michael J.

745
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: Fox the boy and not the wolf. But do we

746
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: have to see him jump that hard as a free

747
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 3: throw line?

748
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: I just I just can't see this tiny guy. I mean,

749
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna put a lot of power to get it

750
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: up there.

751
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: I guess, Yeah, yeah, there's Muggsy. Muggsy Bogues didn't have

752
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 3: to jump at that that rim.

753
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: That head wasn't straight though. It was a little bit

754
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: kinked there, so you know, a little a little bit

755
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: of home quote cooking there. I think that helped out

756
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: the Beavers.

757
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's another question for me, is you know, we

758
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: see like Mick, his rival basketball player on the Dragons

759
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: at prom and I mean, you know, kids from all

760
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 4: other schools could come to your prom, there's no doubt

761
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 4: about that, but it kind of seemed like all of

762
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: the teams that were playing throughout this movie went to

763
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 4: the same school.

764
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird. It's like intramurals or something.

765
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there are basically no fans at the beginning

766
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 4: of the movie, but apparently the intramural tournament heats up

767
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: during the season, so everybody comes out to the games.

768
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's got to be there see the wolf because

769
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: the wolf is killing it not you know, not using

770
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: his teammates at all. Just come go and complete Kobe

771
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: with it. And I laughed out loud when it goes

772
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: to the next game where we see the wolf and

773
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: he's wearing a headband, I mean, which makes sense. He's

774
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: got a lot of hair. I'm sure it was getting

775
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: in his eyes. You know, even was affecting his amazing game,

776
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: so he goes to the headband Trey. I thought you

777
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: would get a kick out of that, Honestly, I get it.

778
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 4: When he was transforming in the mirror for the first time,

779
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: there were a couple of parts where he was like,

780
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 4: you know, three quarters out of the way to transforming

781
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 4: into the wolf.

782
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: I was like, that looks.

783
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: A lot like me.

784
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: And I know I got to wear a headband when

785
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: I played basketball, so I was actually more surprised that

786
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 4: he didn't have something managing that main.

787
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: During the first game. He learned very quickly. We got

788
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: to talk about it, but I know we've talked about

789
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: sort of the sound production and some of the music,

790
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: but the music during the basketball scenes this weird. I

791
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: think it's called way to Go. It sounds like a

792
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: crappy Randy Newman type of song where it's like you

793
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: gotta go with the flow, Joe, and like it is

794
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: so bad, so bad.

795
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 5: And it keeps coming back too, like it goes away

796
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 5: and then it comes back for this. There's so many

797
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 5: montages in this movie too. It's just it's infuriating.

798
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they couldn't get you the best around because

799
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: the karate kid had already nicked that one, so you

800
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: know that would have been played if it wasn't. It

801
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: wasn't in the competing movie at the time.

802
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 5: They had some really like at the very go going

803
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 5: back to that first scene, there's this where where Scott

804
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 5: takes a shot from way like half quarter or whatever,

805
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 5: and they try to do like a Chariots of Fire

806
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 5: rip off. Yeah, that that made me furious and sent

807
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 5: me down a bit of a rabbit hole because, and

808
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 5: I'll say I'll go on a little tangent here. In

809
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 5: the spring of nineteen eighty two, three years before Team

810
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: Wolf and seven months after Chariots of Fire came out,

811
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 5: SCTV had a great sketch that featured Darryl holland John Oates.

812
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 5: It was called Chariots of Eggs and I was sure

813
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 5: that they used the actual Chariots of Fire theme by Vangelis,

814
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 5: and I googled it and confirmed it. Also the sketch

815
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 5: holds up. So it was like, how does a Canadian

816
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 5: sketch show get the rights for Chariots of Fire theme

817
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 5: literally months after it came out, but a major Hollywood

818
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 5: feature can't seem to get it four years after the fact,

819
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 5: well after a little bit of digging, I found the answer.

820
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 5: SATV never bothered to get the rights to anything. They

821
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: were like us in the beginning. They just used whatever

822
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 5: they wanted and it ended up abiding them in the

823
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 5: ass because for years they couldn't release anything on DVD

824
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: or VHS because of that. Wow, can you imagine how

825
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 5: much money they left on the table. But anyways, here's

826
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: the thing. It was timely when they did it. It

827
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 5: was the Chariots of Fire had just won the Oscar

828
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 5: like a couple of months before for Best Picture. By

829
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 5: the time teen Wolf came out, the joke was at

830
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 5: least four years old and already a tired cliche.

831
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm done, amazing, but research there.

832
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 5: Oh my god, And that just sums up how tired

833
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 5: and boring the music is in this whole thing. Even

834
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 5: when they use a Beach Boys song, as you said, Trey,

835
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 5: that song is already twenty years old. It's like another

836
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 5: baby boomer making a movie for Gen X kids, and

837
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 5: as like, what are you doing? What are you doing? Man?

838
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,479
Speaker 5: And they use a Saturday night fever they staying alive,

839
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 5: But that's not the real version. They re recorded it,

840
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 5: probably because they couldn't get the actual recorded rights and

841
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 5: they could just get the publishing or whatever. So yeah,

842
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 5: it's just an instrumental version again, a tired old cliche

843
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 5: of him guy below drying his hair. Ah, so infuriating.

844
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: They did a cheap JD. They made this movie cheap

845
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: and it made him a lot of money. So yeah,

846
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: they're the ones laughing. So yeah, the Wolf is popular now.

847
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean he's popular. I mean's he's losing some of

848
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: his teammates trust because they're not doing anything though they should.

849
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: They should honestly be happy, like they've been getting killed.

850
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: They got killed in the first game. Now they're winning games.

851
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: You got the wolf man, you know you can ride

852
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: some of his popularity. You're on the team, You're around

853
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: the wolf. You've seen his body in the locker room.

854
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: People are gonna be curious, They're gonna have questions. Jobs.

855
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: Actually was eating an apple during a game. I've never

856
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: seen that before. It in a basketball game.

857
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: They're so chucked out just because they're not getting shot.

858
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: At least you're winning, come on.

859
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of it was kind of

860
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: funny that it was eating an apple because they made

861
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: several references to how heavy he was throughout the movie,

862
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 2: So I thought he would have had something like an

863
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: ice cream Sunday or something instead of just going completely

864
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: ridiculous with it.

865
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: I love that actor, the guy he's in Pewee's. Yeah,

866
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: he's so good in that role in that Pewee movie.

867
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: And I mean he actually had a really small role

868
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: in this movie. He was not really that important at all.

869
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 5: Can we also point out that the character's name is Chubby.

870
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 5: Lee wasn't being insensitive there calling him his name in

871
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 5: the credits is Chubby.

872
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: Scott hits him with a yeah, this is the second

873
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: movie in a row On film session where we've had

874
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: a guy named Chubby or Chub's in it too. That's

875
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: the thing. So the Wolf is popular, we go to

876
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 1: I guess we get to it like a bowling alley

877
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: scene this part. I have a question because you know,

878
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: the Wolf is out with Pamela. Now she's really into him.

879
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: They're on a date, they're bowling. Mick is there, that's

880
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: Pamela's boyfriend, and the two come together Scott and Mick

881
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: or Wolf and Mick, and Scott says, excuse me, Mix says,

882
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: I've handled your kind before. Your mama used to steal

883
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: chickens out in the backyard until I blew her head

884
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: off with a shotgun. Did he just say he killed

885
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: Scott's mom?

886
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm guessing he grew up on a farm though, and

887
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: they had wolves and he shot one of the wolves.

888
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: But where are Scott's mom?

889
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

890
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that is weird. Yeah, we don't see

891
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: her yet.

892
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: That was weird.

893
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you sort of you missed over a

894
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: bit there too, because before they went bowling, they had

895
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: rehearsals for the for the school play where he's in it,

896
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: and then after rehearsals, Pamela and Scotty get it on

897
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: in the in the in the dressing room.

898
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: I hated every part of the play stuff though. I

899
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: tuned out. But you're right, they get You're right, they

900
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: they I guess they have sex.

901
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: Is what we're le Well you hear him howling?

902
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

903
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: The play is hilarious. It's like it's a one woman

904
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 5: production of Gone with the Wind, I guess or something

905
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: like that, and there's literally nobody there. There's there's the

906
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 5: director and her. That's it. Like there's no crew, there's

907
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 5: no nothing. I mean, at least grab some people who

908
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 5: are in the crew of making the movie and just

909
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 5: scatter them around like in the wings or something. But

910
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 5: oh my.

911
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: God, what about the character the director?

912
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 5: That the worst character in movie history.

913
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, see that's what I mean. I totally so bad,

914
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: totally checked out. We get the classic spring dance being

915
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: right around the corner, an awesome you know eighties teen

916
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: trope that's always coming up. And again we'll get more

917
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: relationship between Boof and Scott. She's she's gonna go with

918
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: him to the dance, but only if he's not the wolf,

919
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: and he says he can't do that, Like, Nope, can't

920
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: do that. Gotta be the wolf at this dance. But

921
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: then again I said this earlier, like Boof agrees that

922
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: she'll still dance with him. I don't don't get that part.

923
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: It's like, why didn't the writers like really lean into like, no,

924
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: I like you as Scott, not as like this pompous

925
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: like you know, popular wolf. But she sort of likes it.

926
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 5: But is he pompous?

927
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, He's not really that bad.

928
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: You're right.

929
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 5: Here's the thing that this is the main problem with

930
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 5: the movie. I mean, I was gonna keep this to

931
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 5: the end, but it's not like they sort of sell

932
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 5: it as a jekylin Hyde type of story, but it's

933
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 5: it's not. Scott is just Scott but better, right, Like

934
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 5: he's just better at school, he's better at basketball, he's

935
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 5: better at getting laid. I mean, there's nothing wrong with

936
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 5: with with being better than you were, right, I mean,

937
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 5: and it's still Scott. And what the what's the worst

938
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 5: thing that he does? He throws a bowling ball okay, unsafe, sure,

939
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 5: and then he he gets sucker punched at the dance

940
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 5: and then all he does is rip the guy's shirt

941
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 5: a little. I mean it's he doesn't even punch him

942
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 5: or hurt him or anything. So what's the problem here?

943
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: I would say the thing that's a little more dangerous

944
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: and throwing bawling ball is doing backflips and moving wolf

945
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: down the main street.

946
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 5: Okay, but he's not hurting it anybody else.

947
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

948
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: Well, the Style says we have no regard for public safety,

949
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: so they know that things could get a hang because

950
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: Styles is actually drinking a beer, wails driving and banging

951
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: on them.

952
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 5: I don't think it's rare, actually, but even if it was,

953
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, yeah, you.

954
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: Should recycle that at the at the very least he

955
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: throws it at the hardwood store or hardware store. Yeah,

956
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: you make a good point, GD. He he's not really

957
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: a dick as the wolf at all except being a ballhawk.

958
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 5: Right right, But the team sucks anyways.

959
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know he's figured out that's the best way

960
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: for them to win, right.

961
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 3: I just realized Wolf Scott is a lot like JD.

962
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: May seem a little prickly on the outside of just

963
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 3: a real nice, great version of himself.

964
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 5: I am aware Wolf, I've just decided to be a

965
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 5: wolf the whole time. That's what That's what Jackson said

966
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 5: to me as we were watching. And it's like, why

967
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 5: doesn't he just be the wolf the entire time? What

968
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 5: is the point of transforming back to Scott? Like, right,

969
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 5: you're totally right.

970
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, and you don't have a movie, but

971
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: I guess, I mean Dad's dad just doesn't want him

972
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: to be the wolf. I guess. I guess that's and

973
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: when he's doing the backflips, Dad is the one who

974
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: gets upset when he saw he took a step outside

975
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: the hardware store and he's he was embarrassing the family.

976
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 5: The family name, you're one hundred percent right. Dad doesn't

977
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 5: want him to be the wolf. Why because people are

978
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 5: afraid of the wolf, right, and that's a threat to him.

979
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 5: But honestly, like, let's go back to the garage for

980
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 5: a second. What if Scott had come out and said

981
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 5: I am gay, right, and then are we still going

982
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 5: with the same message, like you should bottle that up?

983
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 5: You should not that part of yourself. You should not

984
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 5: be that part of yourself. Or I'm bipolar or I

985
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 5: have psoriasis or something like that, you know what I mean.

986
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 5: Like it's just like, this is something about me that

987
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 5: I can't help, but we're all gonna have to live with.

988
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 5: So is it better to tell him to repress that

989
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 5: or to be just be himself? And that's what the

990
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 5: dad is trying to protect him. But I don't know,

991
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 5: like he should be the wolf. It's not like I

992
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 5: just don't ask me why. But I just watched The

993
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 5: Nutty Professor with Eddie Murphy, which is not a great movie,

994
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 5: but it's infinitely better than this movie. And it's again,

995
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: this is a Jekyl and High type of thing where

996
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 5: this guy he's overweight, morbidly obese, but he has this

997
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 5: formula that turns him into Buddy Love that he's like

998
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 5: a slim he's charismatic, but he's a complete asshole, pure

999
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 5: testosterone and an unhealthy person to be around. But ultimately

1000
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 5: Sherman decides he's he's a better person as Sherman, so

1001
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: he gets rid of Buddy Love, and that's a that's

1002
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 5: a much better message to me.

1003
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, yeah, because there's nothing like we just said.

1004
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: But first off, people are not that afraid of the wolf.

1005
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: People are like, Okay, this guy's pretty awesome. Let's buy

1006
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: on pizza. And then you're right, he's not a jerk.

1007
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: He's just not like this pompous. Really, I guess I

1008
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: was wrong. You're right, he's not. Maybe outside of the

1009
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: playing on the basketball floor, he's seems totally fine and

1010
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: to the point where you're like, he's not really even

1011
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: turning his back all that much on Booth, who we

1012
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: know likes him. He's sort of maybe picked up on

1013
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: that you would hope he has a little bit, but

1014
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 1: he's not even like, oh, you're out of my life

1015
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: or styles you're out of my life, Like I'm really

1016
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: cool now, Like he doesn't do that, so that it

1017
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: is a weird message it's.

1018
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree that the difference between the two is

1019
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 3: just not it's not drastic enough. That being said, the

1020
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 3: fact that they use this as as the trope as

1021
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: the angle for the movie gives me my favorite line

1022
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 3: of the movie where Dad was explaining to young Scott

1023
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: when his werewolf came out up against Rusty Thorn, who

1024
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: is the school principal or whatever the heck he is principal. Yeah,

1025
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: so he explains back in the day, the day that

1026
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: it came out, he said, to this day, I don't

1027
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: know who was more afraid that night, Rusty Thorn or me.

1028
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: He's got to keep it suppressed, He's got.

1029
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 1: To keep it down.

1030
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: But but maybe that's why, Maybe that's why Dad said,

1031
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: he never never really explored that side of him.

1032
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. We're we get the dance. We sort

1033
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: of already talked about that. They break out in the

1034
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: dance moves. It's it's totally thriller. And then this is

1035
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: so I think this is so sloppily written, like boof, boof,

1036
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: what takes the wolf to the hallway, right and he

1037
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: turns into Scott. Yeah, ye, but not from a kiss

1038
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: or anything like that, doesn't he like before the kiss

1039
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: turned into Scott.

1040
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 5: No, I think that's but that's right. I think she

1041
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 5: kisses the wolf and then yeah, give me gim me

1042
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 5: Scott for half an hour.

1043
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: Right, But she didn't kiss him as the wolf, and

1044
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: then he turned into Scott. She said, gimme Scott, and

1045
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: then they kiss, right, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah okay.

1046
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: So then they go back into the dance and what

1047
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: everybody's now sort of like, oh, cool, Scott's here, not

1048
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: the wolf. That is weird. And then Mick gets upset

1049
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: and taunt Scott and then the wolf comes back and

1050
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: attacks him and I throw that in air quotes. It

1051
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. And then everybody sort of turns on

1052
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: the wolf, rightm like, what are you doing?

1053
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 5: Man?

1054
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: And he takes off like in frustration. That is man.

1055
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: Was that just poorly poorly written in my opinion, Like

1056
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: it was so damn quick, and like everybody's like, hey, cool,

1057
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: Scott's Scott again, always back of the wolf. Oh he's

1058
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: defending himself. What an asshole? You know?

1059
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 5: Like what, yeah, I agree, he's It's it's like it

1060
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 5: was his the writer's first film, but I think it

1061
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 5: was the first draft of his first film because They

1062
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 5: never went back and tried to fix anything. It was

1063
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 5: just like that, we need a cheap movie. Here you go.

1064
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that's it.

1065
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 5: I mean, there's no weather explanation for it.

1066
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: Scott quits the play, he quits the basketball team, just

1067
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: like that. That's all it took. He's done with all

1068
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: of this because I guess people sort of were looking

1069
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: at him funny and turned on him a little bit

1070
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 1: at the dance after he defended himself defended himself against

1071
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: the bully Mick. We really get right to the championship game.

1072
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm glossing over some things here, but they're down

1073
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: twenty two to three early to the Dragons. They're playing

1074
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: mixed team again. Scott arrives. Scott arrives not the wolf,

1075
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: and Coach is pumped because's like, all right, yeah, we're

1076
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 1: gonna see the wolf man. We're gonna win this game.

1077
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: But Scott's like, no, no, no, I'm gonna be myself,

1078
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: or not really myself, as we've talked about. I'm gonna

1079
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: be this version of myself, a little five foot four

1080
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: Scott and was gonna sweat all over the place. Guys,

1081
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: we can do this, and he rallies the team to

1082
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: play and the Beavers from the editing of the basketball scenes,

1083
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: they start balling out right, so you as the viewer

1084
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: or myself, I'm like, okay, here we go. And again

1085
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: it was twenty two to three. They show the score

1086
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: and it's thirty two to ten for the Dragons, so

1087
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: they were actually outscored nine to seven in that first montage.

1088
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: And this goes with to what Task was saying, like

1089
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: just the idea of like any sort of like you know,

1090
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: the editing and sort of continuity in this movie is

1091
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: just shot right there. It's like, what, oh my god.

1092
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: It turned into basically a highlight tape for number forty

1093
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 4: five because he gets the exact same chase down block

1094
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 4: played three straight times during this where you know, somebody's

1095
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 4: taking a jumps out and he just swats it away

1096
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 4: from behind. Then he like unleashes this baseball pass the

1097
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: full length of the court house like well, you know,

1098
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 4: maybe the wolf should have been diditioned this guy the

1099
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 4: ball a little bit.

1100
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I means Chubbs really got to go in there

1101
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 2: by knocking in that first shot when he got dead

1102
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: to shoot it, and that just triggered a run. Even

1103
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: though they didn't outscore the Dragons in that run, but

1104
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: they had the crowd behind them. You could just feel

1105
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: it in there, like in their home gym. Like that,

1106
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: you knew that the Beavers had another run in them

1107
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: and the Dragons just really had to try to hold

1108
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: off as long as they could.

1109
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: But there's even a continuity error in the scoreboard. There's

1110
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: a digital scoreboard that comes up and it just it

1111
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 3: like it malfunctions puts up the wrong score there for

1112
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 3: a second, like when you're watching a game on TNT

1113
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: and they put up the score at seventy four to

1114
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: six in the first quarter. But just by accident, the

1115
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 3: editors just ran out of editing time and the edit

1116
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 3: suite they couldn't just cut that out really.

1117
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: Well, that that just shows you how really realistic it

1118
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: is there test because that happens in real games. So

1119
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: they were just putting that into the into.

1120
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: The high school two games. I guess when you've got

1121
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: some you know, yeah, someone in grade ten?

1122
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: What what about Mick? How did he not get ejected

1123
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: from the game? He had like three flagrants?

1124
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he was just laying wood out there.

1125
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the eighties, man, it's more physical.

1126
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: I guess, so, yeah, but you know he closedlined closed

1127
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: line Scott there, and he barged through another time at

1128
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: him and he whacked him again. I'm surprised. You know,

1129
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: we saw in Love and Basketball when the ref like

1130
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: gave a tech for just taunting. I'm surprised in this

1131
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: one we didn't get one of the refs they all right,

1132
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: that's a that's a flagrant fail or a deliberate intentional fail,

1133
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 2: whatever it is at that level. One more and you're

1134
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: done because he just he doesn't learn his lesson. Mickey

1135
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 2: just keeps on going.

1136
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the basketball montage was so long, and it was

1137
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 1: needlessly too long because, as you guys were pointing out,

1138
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: they're just using the same damn clips over and over again.

1139
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: Like there's that one, yeah, where the dragon guy air

1140
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: bawls a layup and mixed grabs the rebound and puts

1141
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: it back in. We see it twice.

1142
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 5: It's like, you know what though, Jackson pointed that out

1143
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 5: to me, and we went back and watched them again

1144
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,479
Speaker 5: and again they are not the same shot.

1145
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: It's the one, the one I'm talking about is absolutely

1146
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: the same shot. A lot of times.

1147
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 4: It's like they took multiple takes of the same choreographed

1148
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: basketball scene, right, and then they're like, well, everything else

1149
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 4: that we have is even worse than this, So I

1150
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 4: guess we got to put this in three straight times.

1151
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 4: The director said, somewhere in a vault is about an

1152
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 4: hour of the most embarrassing sports footage ever taken that

1153
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 4: didn't make the movie.

1154
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I read that too, Trey. I'm glad you said that.

1155
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: Because we were discussing the secret tapes. We wanted to

1156
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: see more on either Shack's two thousand dunk contest or

1157
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: Bill Wennington's last dance tapes. We got the new Holy Rail.

1158
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: It's this tape of them, somehow playing worse basketball than

1159
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: what we saw in the movie, the Team Wolf freelance tape.

1160
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: Let's see it.

1161
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting because you know, Scott Michael J. Fox

1162
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: really improved his ball handling. He was dropping behind the

1163
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: back bounce passes into the paint for layups, so you

1164
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: know he must have been working on his game in

1165
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: between between shoots.

1166
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: Again, that's the college basketball player playing the wolf Man's

1167
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: that's not Michael J. Fox out there do it.

1168
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: No no, But in the in the championship game in

1169
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: thechampionship game that he's dropping the behind the back bounce

1170
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: pass into the pint.

1171
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: No, I know, I'm saying it's not Michael J. Fox himself.

1172
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's the college basketball player that's playing him

1173
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: as the stunt. Do that's it. It's not it's not

1174
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: mjf as we can call it. Yeah, that's right, that's right,

1175
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: And looks okay, Scott gets filed. He goes back to

1176
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: the free throw line just like this movie started, and

1177
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: instead he hits both the free throws, and we have

1178
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: this unbelievable, you know, celebratory scene where they're they're raising

1179
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: him up, and then he brushes by Pamela, who's really

1180
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: into him because he's the hero, and he goes to

1181
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: boof and then Dad's there and then I hope you

1182
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: guys saw this or read about this. The final shot

1183
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,959
Speaker 1: of the movie, right as the credits start to roll,

1184
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: you can see a person in the back on the

1185
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: bleachers with their pants on zipped. Did you guys notice that?

1186
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 4: Oh?

1187
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so there was for a long time people

1188
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: think people like would call it like, oh, there's a

1189
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: streaker at the end of Teen Wolf. Why they said that?

1190
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: And people thought it was also a guy and that

1191
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: it's his penis in the back like hanging out. It's

1192
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: not true at all. It's it's a woman who you

1193
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: know is an extra. It's just in the bleachers and

1194
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: probably did the classic, like ooh, my pants are too

1195
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: tight when I sit down on the bleachers, So just

1196
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,479
Speaker 1: you know, did the old classic un button the top

1197
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: button there, and maybe the zipper goes down a little bit.

1198
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: It's a little more comfortable to sit there. When she

1199
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: stands up, she's like, oh, tip it up, So that's

1200
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: what happens there. But I can't believe that's in the food,

1201
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: like that's the final shot.

1202
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, so great. Those highwaisted pants, though, I mean they're back, right,

1203
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 5: I mean people are wearing them again.

1204
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: Yeah they are.

1205
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I definitely remember my mom telling me stories

1206
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 4: of this era.

1207
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: She used to have to lay down flat on her

1208
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: back on her bed.

1209
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 4: And use like like a pair of pliers to pull

1210
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 4: her zipper up the pants were so tight. So I

1211
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 4: guess if you're watching, I don't know, six hours of

1212
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 4: the worst basketball ever played, your probably un zipping to

1213
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 4: get a little bit more comfortable in the bleachers.

1214
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: So that's teen Wolf we can go through any random

1215
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: observations or questions. I have a couple I did do

1216
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: a I tried to do a sunglass count.

1217
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 2: For you, Lee.

1218
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: I started to, but I honestly couldn't keep up because

1219
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: you had Styles wearing shades multiple times, including when he

1220
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: was trying to buy the keg when he was driving

1221
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: at night. Then he threw on those sweet yellow shades

1222
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: when he goes vansurfing. He wore them in class. This

1223
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: guy was always wearing shades. We get like four or

1224
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: five people maybe even more at the house party wearing them,

1225
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: including Chubby who was rocking shades inside, and then teen

1226
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: Wolf when he becomes popular, he starts wearing them too.

1227
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: So story checks out. Ly, there were a lot of

1228
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: people wearing sunglasses in this movie, and I think in

1229
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: the eighties in general. Yeah.

1230
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: Well, Styles had so much swag as well. That's what

1231
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: I liked about him. I mean, remember some of those

1232
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: shits he was wearing, like what are you looking at?

1233
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 2: Dick Nose?

1234
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: That's my favorite T shirt has to be what are

1235
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: you looking at dunk Nose?

1236
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing about Styles. He had so

1237
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: much charisma. You know, he had the green pants the

1238
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: real tight green pants on with the shirt, and I

1239
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: just thought he was a fantastic character. And I really

1240
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: think there should be a spin off movie. I mean,

1241
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: they've made a spin off TV show with teen Wolf.

1242
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: I think Styles deserves his own show. He'd be fantastic.

1243
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: Has anybody watched ten Wolf two t O, which came

1244
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 1: a few years later, starring Jason Beatman. Has somebody watched?

1245
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Chubs is in that too. It's it's basically

1246
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: it's about a us.

1247
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1248
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did only watch it once, but it was

1249
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: kind of like Grease too. It just never ever had

1250
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: the same sort of appeal as a box Yeah yeah.

1251
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Why do I go with bowling? That would have

1252
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 5: been that would have been interesting.

1253
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: Well, but he wouldn't have lost tho, would he? Because

1254
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: you know, I mean you see him hit a strike

1255
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: and it's five in.

1256
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 3: A row at the house.

1257
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, he's an incredible athlete as a wolf.

1258
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: Incredible. But hold on, in teen Wolf two, I haven't

1259
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: seen it, but from what I know, it's not it's

1260
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: not Scott Howard. I think it's like a relative.

1261
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 5: Right, it's his cousin played by Jason Badman.

1262
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you're a wolf. You're amazing at all sports,

1263
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: is what we've figured out. Did you watch as for

1264
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: that one? No?

1265
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 5: No, I did not, And I started this podcast already

1266
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 5: angry Atly for making us watch this. But as he's

1267
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 5: defending Styles, I'm just getting more and more.

1268
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: Jeddy, I said to you last night before we did

1269
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: the pud, his actual character reminds me a bit of

1270
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: your friend Derek.

1271
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 5: That was the biggest insult ever. I can't. I'm gonna

1272
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 5: pat this out of the podcast, even though you are

1273
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 5: sort of right, but still.

1274
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: It's sort of flamboyant, a bit like like Derek there,

1275
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: and he also just kind of looks like him, I think.

1276
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: So I thought you would have connected with him a

1277
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: little better than you did.

1278
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, God, I hated Styles. I even hate his name.

1279
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 5: It's for for my entire life. I thought it was

1280
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 5: actually the word style that was his, that was his

1281
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 5: his nickname, that was his whatever. But it's Stilensky, I

1282
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 5: believe is his actual name. But yeah, Gott.

1283
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: But but you can't tell me. When he was trying

1284
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: to buy the keg and he was saying, oh, so

1285
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: the boss says, I gotta buy pick up a keg, Yeah, that.

1286
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: Was That was my favorite style for sure. Any other

1287
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: random observations questions.

1288
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 5: I'd like to quickly defend Mick for a second, just

1289
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 5: because yes, he's an asshole, he's a bully. But you know,

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Speaker 5: at the bowling alley, his that was his girlfriend who

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Speaker 5: had just team Wolf that afternoon and was three lanes

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Speaker 5: here muffling all over each other. I mean, wouldn't you

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Speaker 5: be furious the poor guy.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was furious in the end.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's what I'm saying. I mean, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and well that's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she cheats on Mick with Wolf, then goes to

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Speaker 2: the bawling lane and then she dumps She dumps Scotty

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Speaker 2: Howard as well at the door, turns the lights off

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Speaker 2: in his face and says, look, he's my boyfriend. I'm

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Speaker 2: still going to the dance with him.

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Speaker 1: Like, wow, she is cold blood. Here. Here's what I

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Speaker 1: think is going on. Yeah, when you're the Wolf, you

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Speaker 1: are an amazing athlete, but maybe you're not. You're not

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Speaker 1: good in the sack. And maybe that's why Scott's mom

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Speaker 1: left Harold. Maybe she didn't die, Maybe she just left

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Speaker 1: that chipmunk wolf.

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Speaker 5: That's now now I'm interested, go on.

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Speaker 2: To me.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of just Pamela really likes Harry, guys, because

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Speaker 4: you guys saw mix arms but looked like Lee Ellis. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what we could find out because I

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Speaker 2: did a little bit of creeping after this movie. It

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Speaker 2: turns out that Pamela Wells Lurie Griffin is a real

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Speaker 1: Wow, so skezy.

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Speaker 2: You bought a house recently. You remember the name of

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Speaker 4: If you showed up to her office wearing like Dragon's

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Speaker 1: Is that Mack? I haven't seen him in years. Sure,

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Speaker 1: you're right. She was a big Robin Williams fan loves

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Speaker 1: All right, let's grade this bad boy, but before we do.

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Speaker 1: Critics score for teen Wolf on Rotten Tomatoes forty four

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Speaker 1: percent the New York Times famously aggressively boring, which is awesome.

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Speaker 1: The audience scorer for teen Wolf based off you know,

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Speaker 1: something like seventy seven thousand plus user rating, so a

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Speaker 1: lot fifty two percent, so a little higher than the

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Speaker 1: critics liked it. But as I said, I slipped it

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Speaker 1: in there at the beginning. This movie made a ton

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Speaker 1: of money off of, you know, the Back to the

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Speaker 1: Future success, off of Michael J. Fox's success and family

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Speaker 1: ties and him blowing up there in the eighties. Costs

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Speaker 1: like one point two million to make, grossed eighty million early.

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Speaker 1: I think it was actually when it came out, it

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Speaker 1: was second, you know, in the in the movie theaters

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Speaker 1: two Back to the Future. So Michael J. Fox on

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Speaker 1: top of the world during that summer of eighty five.

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Speaker 1: But we got to score it. We've talked it out,

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Speaker 1: We've talked about some of the problems, maybe some of

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Speaker 1: the scenes we liked. Trey, let's start with you, how

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Speaker 1: are you grading Teenwolf? Well, Michael J.

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Speaker 4: Fox is clearly the best part of the movie, playing

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Speaker 4: against type.

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Speaker 1: A Fox, playing a wolf. Who would have ever thought

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Speaker 1: it was possible.

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Speaker 4: Another one of my favorite things is in that final

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Speaker 4: scene during the montage about basketball, the music.

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Speaker 1: Is just screaming win in the end.

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Speaker 4: It really makes you think, are they gonna be able

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Speaker 4: to win this one in the end? So I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: have to give it two out of five wins in

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Speaker 4: the end. Not my favorite button. I found myself enjoying

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Speaker 4: how much I hated watching it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, Tas, why don't you go next?

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Speaker 1: How are you grading this?

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Speaker 3: I'm going with five out of five gods, because it's

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Speaker 3: an act of God that this film made eighty million

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Speaker 3: dollars at the box office. I'm a Michael J. Fox fan.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Canada. Played for the beavers. It's all

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Speaker 3: fitting a Canadian beaver. There appeared to be a Canadian

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Speaker 3: beaver at the end of this film in the back

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Speaker 3: of the basketball scene. But that's it. That's it. Not

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Speaker 3: very good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, what you gave it five out of five?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the perfect score. Lee, Why don't you go next? Well,

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Speaker 1: you we you know you really pitched for us to

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Speaker 1: watch team So how do you after rewatching it for

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Speaker 1: I don't know, was that your tenth or eleventh time?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I haven't watched it for a few weeks,

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Speaker 2: I guess, but I think you know I've got to

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Speaker 2: I'm taking you back. I was like nine years old

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Speaker 2: at the time, and again, I was also a big

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Speaker 2: Michael J. Fox fan. I loved Family Ties, loved the

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Speaker 2: Back to the Future series, and at that time, we

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Speaker 2: had the Karate Kid, we had Ferris Bill. He had

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Speaker 2: Goony's Revenge of the Nerds, and it just slotted in

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Speaker 2: perfectly into that group of movies. And then at the

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Speaker 2: end of it, Michael J. Fox Scott Howard as Scott

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Speaker 2: Howard needs two free throws to win the championship. He

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Speaker 2: steps up to the line and knocks them both in. You know,

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Speaker 2: I love that so barely.

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Speaker 1: He barely knocked in that second one.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, man. That was just like Orlando Blackman when

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Speaker 2: he hit the first one in eighty seven. So I

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Speaker 2: thought it was a beautiful movie. It was so much

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Speaker 2: fun watching it all over again. I'm giving this also

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Speaker 2: five wolf howls out of five. But that's a good

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Speaker 2: good writing. I'm like.

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Speaker 1: A bad writing somehow. Yeah, okay, he loves it about you.

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Speaker 5: I'm turning to the skies and looking at the moon.

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Speaker 5: Full moon would be the perfect score, but I'm going

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Speaker 5: with a new moon, which is no moon at all.

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Speaker 5: It's the there's there's not even this sliver. It's a

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Speaker 5: zero out of a million. I hated this movie. I

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Speaker 5: would rather watch Airbud eight more times than.

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Speaker 1: What the ultimately GISs. I would rather watch Airbud.

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Speaker 2: Jeez, I reckon. I Reckon. You would be the fire

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Speaker 1: Am Okay, I'll wrap this up. I am giving this

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Speaker 1: one and a half out of five pointy fingernails. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hated that. I hated anytime we saw his his

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Speaker 1: fingernails turn it into the wolf that always creeps me

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Speaker 1: out for some reason. Okay, I give it that, because, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this movie stinks. You were listing some great eighties movies

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Speaker 1: there Ly this doesn't. It can't sniff the jock straps

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Speaker 1: of some of those movies like Goonies and so on.

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Speaker 1: So one and a half. Though, you know, Michael J. Fox,

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Speaker 1: if he's not in this, then this probably thing never

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Speaker 1: it may not ever get made, and if it does,

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Speaker 1: no one ever sees it. And it's not iconic by

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Speaker 1: any means. If it is, if it can even you know,

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Speaker 1: sort of call that a bit of a reach. But

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Speaker 1: he's great. I like him. That's a no brainer. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was only ninety minutes.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was quick until the point at times like too

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Speaker 1: quick because you're like, what, we're just glossing over this

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Speaker 1: whole family backstory of like we're part werewolves, and or

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Speaker 1: just glossing over people, like liking them then hating them

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Speaker 1: the next second because he's stuck up for himself. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: one and a half out of five pointy fingernails. It's

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Speaker 1: not a great, but it's uh tadies.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any basketball being played in the

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Speaker 1: Goonies if I remember correctlyly, So I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: What movie you would like to see us tackle next,

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Speaker 1: and whether or not you were a fan of rewatching

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Speaker 1: Teen Wolf. I think that's the thing. Back when you

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Speaker 1: were a kid, sure this was probably enjoyable and it

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Speaker 1: was silly and fun and looked hilarious. But now a

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Speaker 1: bit of a tough rewatch. But that's our opinion. You

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Speaker 1: tell us Lee loved it still, so maybe you do too.

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Speaker 1: Clippers gross you heard it.

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Speaker 5: Here first, have a great time, turn up, Love you

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Speaker 5: guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember there are three rules

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Speaker 3: that I live by. Never get less than twelve hours sleep,

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Speaker 3: Never play cards with the guy who has the same

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Speaker 3: first name as a city, and never get involved with

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Speaker 3: a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body.

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Speaker 3: Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that quote was amazing at the beginning and got

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Speaker 1: better at the ending of the cream cheese. Embrace the people.

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Speaker 1: You could stay.

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Speaker 4: Every day.

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Speaker 3: I dug you happy every minute.

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Speaker 1: It's been so long with your funa

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Speaker 5: Alady, it's gonna be grevy.