WEBVTT - One Step At A Time with Congressman Carson and Bevy Smith

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Family, I'm to make a d Mallory

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<v Speaker 1>and I my son in general, and we are your

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<v Speaker 1>host of street politicians, the place where and politics meet

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<v Speaker 1>my god, every every well, I don't like that. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>try to you know what I'm You're becoming very very

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<v Speaker 1>politically minded, politically inclined politically my foundations absolutely to shout

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<v Speaker 1>out tom killer, Mike, though, look, this this is dope,

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<v Speaker 1>plot playing, strategized, organized, mobilized. This is you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I gotta give my own shame this plug

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<v Speaker 1>never so much soul. You know them both we love

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<v Speaker 1>black men to make sure that Georgia turn blue. So

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<v Speaker 1>we got to give and those things embodied Mike like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's him that I should better have my until freedom

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<v Speaker 1>had it would have properly like plot planing, strategized, organized,

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<v Speaker 1>and mobilize until freedom. Well, so we got tell it's

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<v Speaker 1>abran until freedom had. He'll probably say send him some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like everybody else, So let's not talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But I was thinking, because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff going on, but we still have to live

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<v Speaker 1>our regular lives, like you know, we cannot just allow

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<v Speaker 1>all of this craziness that's going on to suck up

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<v Speaker 1>so much energy that we're not like working and planning, plotting, strategizing, organizing,

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<v Speaker 1>mobilizing um within our communities. And I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>check in with my young inns and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are my mentees and others are just

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<v Speaker 1>folks I talked to, and I recognized that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a common thread among many of the younger people I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to. They get so frustrated about the journey, the

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<v Speaker 1>process towards where they're going. They're on it and they're badass.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not trying to say in any way, shape

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<v Speaker 1>or form that they're not going to accomplish, because they will,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're real frustrated, much more than we were, at

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<v Speaker 1>least than I was. Um. You know, working with our

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<v Speaker 1>dear sister Rachel nord Linka, we worked at the National

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<v Speaker 1>Action Network for fourteen years. She's been there even longer

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<v Speaker 1>than that. It was a process. We've worked all night long.

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<v Speaker 1>At times we didn't get a chance to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to a party as much and to enjoy as much.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to make those things a part of the

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<v Speaker 1>daily experience because we were on most of our lives,

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of our lives, and there were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of nose, a lot of doors closed in our faces.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there were a lot of moments when we

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<v Speaker 1>were chastised and strictly um addressed because we weren't doing

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<v Speaker 1>things as we should be, not showing up on time,

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<v Speaker 1>just things like that. It just wasn't tolerated and I noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think some of the failures that they go through,

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<v Speaker 1>it just gives people a meltdown, like they just can't

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know how they're going to make it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm constantly saying yo, because I was thinking with my

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts that you have to trust the process. The journey

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<v Speaker 1>is a part of the story. And I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 1>that later when we could be talking to one of

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<v Speaker 1>our guests that is going to help us. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the questions that I have for her, um.

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<v Speaker 1>But that process, that's where all the good stuff is made.

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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't mean that it won't hurt, because it

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<v Speaker 1>certainly will. But when it breaks you down to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where you just don't think you can make it anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>what does that say about like what's happening to our

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<v Speaker 1>young people. I want to see our young people because

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, they have so much more than we had,

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<v Speaker 1>so many more opportunity. But we didn't have social media

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<v Speaker 1>to give you a false sense of reality, right, we

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<v Speaker 1>we actually dealt we've seen the people, or we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see them every day. Right, so we we aspired to

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<v Speaker 1>be like stars that we've seen on TV. Right. When

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<v Speaker 1>we see those stars, they was actually doing their craft

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<v Speaker 1>and they were doing things. So it made you like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be better at that. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>learn how to do And when you go to social media,

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<v Speaker 1>you get sixty seconds of the best moments of someone's life. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So they got all they change on, all the money

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<v Speaker 1>on the bed and you look at that and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a recurrent picture on everybody has this picture. They got

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<v Speaker 1>the best cards, they got all the money. Every second

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<v Speaker 1>you post on social media is everything good. There's no process.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't show you, you know, they don't show you

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<v Speaker 1>how they got the money. They don't show you what

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<v Speaker 1>the process was. They just show you that they got it.

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<v Speaker 1>So these young kids are looking at social media saying, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm failing. I don't have all of those things. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have this car, don't have all this money. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to figure out how I could get that and

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<v Speaker 1>live that life right now, not knowing that that's not real.

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<v Speaker 1>That most of those people some of that money ain't there's,

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<v Speaker 1>the cars ain't there's and how they the process that

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<v Speaker 1>they took to get to that money was real long,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Some of them risking their freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them is going jail them all. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>so many different things that's not being told to our children,

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<v Speaker 1>but just being showed to our children that makes them

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<v Speaker 1>believe that they're feeling and they want the microwave answer

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<v Speaker 1>to everything. They want the microwave, but they get it

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<v Speaker 1>with like you said, everything is in the palm of

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<v Speaker 1>their hands, so they do get a sort of microwave

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<v Speaker 1>approach to everything in life. Um, even with school being

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<v Speaker 1>online and I'm not talking about pandemic, I'm talking about colleges,

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<v Speaker 1>students are going to school on the internet. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to necessarily trek to the classes the way that

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<v Speaker 1>I know I had. This it's a lot of different,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if that's good for us. Because

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<v Speaker 1>it is um developing more entrepreneurs. It is giving people

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to be more creative, which will hopefully benefit

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<v Speaker 1>us to control our environments more, to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>hire our own people and not have to work for

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<v Speaker 1>others and make them ridy. But what do we sacrifice?

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<v Speaker 1>Because for me, right, as we evolve with technology and

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<v Speaker 1>we see those situations grow, I think we lose communication

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<v Speaker 1>and interactions with one another. And also look at the

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<v Speaker 1>murder rates of people don't know how to communicate. People

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<v Speaker 1>are so angry or they know how to do his fight.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know how to have dialogue with someone that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't agree with, Like immediately when you don't agree

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody turns into this big thing because people have

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<v Speaker 1>not learned communicators and they haven't learned they haven't interact

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<v Speaker 1>with people, so and they can't take failure or the

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<v Speaker 1>slightest bit of uncomfortable criticism or anything. So like I

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<v Speaker 1>was having a conversation with one of my brothers. He

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<v Speaker 1>called me and I have wrote soon about I thought

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<v Speaker 1>somebody was a better rapper than somebody else. You're like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>just can turn into something. I'm like, people can't have

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion. You can't say that you think some money.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I want to fight you I'm not saying,

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<v Speaker 1>but why why my opinion that you might not be

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<v Speaker 1>as good as a rapper as somebody else makes it

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<v Speaker 1>to where we might have a beef like a beef

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<v Speaker 1>to where we're at odds with each other because communication

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<v Speaker 1>is to me, people's who are supersensitive. People are supersensitive,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, sometimes I think that that that's that

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<v Speaker 1>is also a part of this this thing that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying that younger people um have sort of lost a sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe they never had it, Maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't teach it to them, Maybe we gave them too

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<v Speaker 1>much too quickly. You know, when I think about my

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<v Speaker 1>own child, although he's a very hard worker, and when

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<v Speaker 1>Tarka is on a job, he's on the job. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't gotta wake him up. But he also loves the

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<v Speaker 1>money at the end of the week, so he's on it. However,

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<v Speaker 1>even when I'm getting when he and I are in

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<v Speaker 1>conflict with one another, he just loses his mind like

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<v Speaker 1>he he and I guess he probably says, I learned

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<v Speaker 1>it from you. So perhaps there there are some things

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<v Speaker 1>that we have sort of passed down that we have

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<v Speaker 1>to take responsibility for. But the hustle and the grind

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw my parents do and that I now

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<v Speaker 1>am a part of and in my own hustle. I

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<v Speaker 1>get worried that many of the very the younger, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking under twenty those younger people, I'm scared. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>under twenty five. I'm nervous about whether they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to deal with the trials and tribulations. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, suicide rates are up. There's a lot that's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, I don't I'm worried. I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>worried about it, mice, because I know that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get knocked down and fail so many times on this

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<v Speaker 1>journey called life that if you're not able to handle

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, somebody telling you that you can't be

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<v Speaker 1>late to the office all the time, or that you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do a job properly, and it gives you a

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<v Speaker 1>mental breakdown, like a meltdown, and you want to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you're gonna make it. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be tough, man, But the only thing we can

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<v Speaker 1>do is pray from give them insight. You know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of I have a lot of young boys that

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<v Speaker 1>I mentored that I sit down and I mentor and

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<v Speaker 1>I prepared them. You know, when I was in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>right a lot of people had this mind state because

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<v Speaker 1>I was a rapper. I was gonna go home and

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna be the biggest rapper. Oh, you got

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<v Speaker 1>it all set. And I was like, that's not true,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I said. The reality is I haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>home in several years. Life changes, things are changing. I

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<v Speaker 1>might have to start from zero, and I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I prepare to fail. You know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you have an expectation, and that expectation is just

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to be successful. Without the process of failure,

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<v Speaker 1>it can diminish you, it can destroy you. So I

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<v Speaker 1>always even know I'm very adamant and believe that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win, I believe that along the path, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to fail, and I'm okay with that. I'm okay with

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that I try to do something, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell me no. But I know I'm gonna ask

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred thousand people because i know I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>get it. So I'm not gonna let the one person

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<v Speaker 1>that said no, we don't want you the two or

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<v Speaker 1>the ten person because I believe in me so much

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<v Speaker 1>that is nothing gonna determ me. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we have to teach these kids. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>teach them self determination and self you know, resilience. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I will say is that they're smart. They're

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<v Speaker 1>smarter than we work. They know how to you utilize

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<v Speaker 1>networking and relationships and uh their equipment in ways that

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't have. So if they just mix a what

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<v Speaker 1>we had work and that ten toes down mentality with

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<v Speaker 1>the level of intellect and intelligence and just amazing. Some

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<v Speaker 1>mean when I look at just something as simple as

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<v Speaker 1>how these young women know how to apply makeup like

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<v Speaker 1>this is not something you care about. But I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that the way in which these young girls

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<v Speaker 1>know how to highlight an eyelash and this, and that

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<v Speaker 1>they can they can do their own eye press. We

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<v Speaker 1>never we didn't know how to do all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>But they have skills. And those skills shouldn't just be

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<v Speaker 1>used for good Instagram pictures. They should be used so

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<v Speaker 1>that you can make a little side money and be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of your hustle and also to build brands

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<v Speaker 1>in business. So that's my opinion, and that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about in my thought of the day. Always

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<v Speaker 1>comes across as what you were thinking. But the streets

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<v Speaker 1>is talking. Sts always talk. Always. Yes, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to know what's impeachment? Impeachment, but impeachment, what impeach? The

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<v Speaker 1>impeach president? Oh? That was dope. That is dope though

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<v Speaker 1>that you had one president school. It doesn't really mean anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know. It doesn't it it doesn't,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't and it does you know what it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It destroys the legacy the name. You know, it makes

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<v Speaker 1>sure he ain't getting no perks. Well that's not true, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>because in order for them to ensure that he can't

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<v Speaker 1>run for office, that he doesn't have as much presidential security.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he does get something. For a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>even before this happened, I remember hearing that they change

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<v Speaker 1>the Secret Service for presidents, like lifetime secret service, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that has sort of been rolled back. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Obama may have been the last one to receive

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime the other presidents. I think now it's like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years or you know, something like that. Um, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're guardless he will get some type of security

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<v Speaker 1>however it's reduced. And then there are other things that

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<v Speaker 1>happened that he don't think. He gets a museum and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of those things. But in order for

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that's a good question, but remorded for

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things to happen, I believe he has

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<v Speaker 1>to be convicted. That's the the second step. So you impeach,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what happened the first time, and also with

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton. They were impeached, but then they were not

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<v Speaker 1>convicted at a trial. I guess of the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>that allow everyone to vote and say that he should

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<v Speaker 1>now experience the worst consequences of impeachment. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It's like, what are we doing? And they

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<v Speaker 1>only have a few days to do it. Listen, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't you cannot allow a tyrant, yea brother to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the White House. This man is running the

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<v Speaker 1>White House like them all Like we said that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the people are getting locked up that quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>committed the insurrection as they said, right. They people went

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<v Speaker 1>into the capital and did what they did. Somebody pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much ordered them to do this. All of them are saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump told me to be here. Trump said to come here,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at these people's past history, even though

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<v Speaker 1>obviously these are there, they're suffering from the sickness of

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<v Speaker 1>white privilege and white supremacy. That's an obvious situation. But

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<v Speaker 1>these were quote unquote upstanding citizens. They have regular jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>These people have regular jobs. They worked for government, they

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<v Speaker 1>worked for the state. Like they don't have all, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't have was prior criminal history, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>just because they haven't been arrested for their criminal activity

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean they don't have private crier. Criminal history history

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<v Speaker 1>means that is that is dated and noted and recorded.

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<v Speaker 1>That what makes you a criminal. That No, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>probably criminal history, It doesn't make it. That's but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just what I'm trying to say is this these people

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<v Speaker 1>felt it's like it's like pretty much like a cult,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was really sitting in like this. They drank

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<v Speaker 1>the kool a. This was some Jim Jones type ship

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<v Speaker 1>that they had going on. And these people were in

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<v Speaker 1>front of camera saying we're going we're you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>taking over the We're taking over the capital. So they

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<v Speaker 1>felt like that they felt like they were supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing these things. So if you're gonna rest the

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<v Speaker 1>people who committed the act, but you ain't gonna even

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<v Speaker 1>impeach the president that told him to commit to act,

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't understand how what kind of justice we

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<v Speaker 1>go because I always give this example of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I if you and I are hanging out together

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<v Speaker 1>and I say, let's go down to Billy Bob's house

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<v Speaker 1>and get my stuff, similar to oh Jack, oh Jay

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<v Speaker 1>and and his homies, that was his stuff. Where did

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<v Speaker 1>you get their stuff? But this is this is the know.

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<v Speaker 1>But these white folks that were out there that stormed

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<v Speaker 1>the capitol, they believe that this is their stuff. America's

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<v Speaker 1>their stuff. So O Jay and then they went to

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<v Speaker 1>go get their stuff from down and down the hall

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<v Speaker 1>in the hotel or whatever. And we're going there and

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<v Speaker 1>we beat people up because that's what they said that

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<v Speaker 1>the people said, oh J and up came and they aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>they had guns. They pulled guns on them. Nobody died.

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<v Speaker 1>They said they had something. It was weapons. It was weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>And those people said they felt threatened, okay, and they

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<v Speaker 1>went in it and they locked O J up because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they posed to do because because it was

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<v Speaker 1>because he got away the first time and they had

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity. I hear you. But I'm just saying nobody

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<v Speaker 1>gets locked up for retrieving their own ship. That's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not true because there's a way that you go

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<v Speaker 1>about it. If you and I go if right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, Pooky got my chain and me, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go get my chain, and when we get

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<v Speaker 1>down there, we're back to everything else we get you,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna convict you if if Pooky get hurt, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to call the pole lea. Yes, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you don't deal. I know you're going. I know you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you the way let me full transparency.

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<v Speaker 1>If you take my things, my items whatever to belong

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I'm not calling no polish. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that you will. I'm going I agree with you that

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go get our stuff. Your love you with

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<v Speaker 1>all the ships, because I'm gonna call you like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>they got my stuff? You who got your stuff? We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get your stuff, A getting your stuff that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just telling you the way the law is designed,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go down there to get Joe Pookie's house

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<v Speaker 1>with the bat and everything else and then beat Pookie up.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe somebody dies and say, what it's because Pooky took

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<v Speaker 1>my stuff. They don't do that, So you're right. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>affirming your point. The man is supposed to build a jail.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. This is the man who called it h

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<v Speaker 1>He put the hit out exactly the mom this is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a classic example of the rico lord, right

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<v Speaker 1>do rico lord means that you did something to further

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<v Speaker 1>enhance a criminal enterprise, further the growth of a criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>This man has created a criminal answer with white supremacy

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<v Speaker 1>is a criminal question? Are you supposed to get the charge?

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<v Speaker 1>So I asked you this before, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you really answer. Answer me. If you and I

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<v Speaker 1>go to get the stuff from Pooky and you stay

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<v Speaker 1>outside in the car and say, all right, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>down here with you, though I'm gonna take you down,

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<v Speaker 1>and you put the bats and the thing, you do everything,

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<v Speaker 1>And you said, but now when we get down there,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to go in there and talk to Pooky yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>because I ain't gonna go in there. They got cameras

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff is your stuff. You go in there. I

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<v Speaker 1>go in there, and somehow or another Pokey, his mom

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<v Speaker 1>and his cousin. Die. Aren't you getting charged with me?

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<v Speaker 1>And what I did? You know what? It's called felony

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<v Speaker 1>murder and it's called acting in concert. See what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Acting in concert. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

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<v Speaker 1>Why acting in concert don't apply to Trump. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's why the impeachment. That's what I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't but we need criminal charges, criminal charges. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to have this conversation. We have a guest

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming on today. Because I'm trying to understand what

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't don't get it. You listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't any impeach depeach man, Like, how does the process

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<v Speaker 1>of the full impeachment, not just some charges brought up,

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<v Speaker 1>not just this and that, what is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the process? I'm taking on. I'm with you, right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking your piece for today. I don't get it because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see that if everybody's running around talking

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<v Speaker 1>about impeachment, impeach, and then I hear that it's possible, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, they don't have enough senators to agree

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<v Speaker 1>to impeach the man. And I think I mean to impeach. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have enough. They didn't even they had enough

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<v Speaker 1>to impeach him, but they don't have enough of those

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<v Speaker 1>individuals that would help to convict him. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>like ten I think Republican senators that agreed with the

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<v Speaker 1>impeachment portion, and they're saying that they don't have enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they need sixteen to twenty or something, which

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna find out from our guests today that would

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<v Speaker 1>actually help to get him out of the White House exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying to you. We got to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Congressman Carson. Let's ask him because I'm not clear this,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's why I said on my page, take it

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it. You you create a law, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't follow the law because we if we think

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<v Speaker 1>that it's acting concert because back to the thing we

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<v Speaker 1>have been talking about four weeks, they're not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>convict Mama and papaw. He falls in the Mama and

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<v Speaker 1>Papa and they want together. And in fact yea. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, in fact one of the officers, the one

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<v Speaker 1>that was being crushed in the blood was coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of his mouth. That was probably one of the worst

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<v Speaker 1>images it's bad enough. They beat somebody with the flag.

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<v Speaker 1>But the man who was being crushed, I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>man was dead. I thought he was bleeding because his

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<v Speaker 1>bones were just being crushed. He thank god, did not

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<v Speaker 1>sustain any injuries, and he said he was shocked. But

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him on the news saying that as the insurrectionists,

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<v Speaker 1>the criminals, the terrorists, the thugs were there, they were

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<v Speaker 1>telling him the militia, they were telling the ghettos. They

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<v Speaker 1>were telling him, we're with you, don't you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to fight us, like come with us. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>they he said, they thought that he and other officers

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<v Speaker 1>because they said we support you. We're against the Black

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<v Speaker 1>Lives Matter. The people were saying to him, we have

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<v Speaker 1>been supporting you as police against the Black Lives matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So he they thought, he said, they thought that he

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<v Speaker 1>would put his weapons, I guess in a different position

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<v Speaker 1>and turn his hat around basically to say I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>in here with you. And he said, no, I will

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<v Speaker 1>never do that. White supremacy is a very strange thing, man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really unbelieving. It's really bad. Before we go to

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<v Speaker 1>the next segment and have our special guests joint we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a quick break for our sponsors. This is

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<v Speaker 1>our great brother Idea friends. Good to see you, Congressman Carson,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for being with us. Tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what impeachment means? We are unclear? My crew, my crew,

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>my crew, my family, you know what it is. You know,

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 1>it's it's good to see everybody. My song is looking

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 1>really style. Don't don't talk about don't tell him he looking,

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.680
<v Speaker 1>don't do that, don't do that. Don't know. Man, Good

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<v Speaker 1>to see you too, Man to man, you know Tomka's

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<v Speaker 1>over looking like she's ready for the biopics. We gotta

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who we're going to be a player though,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, man, So what is it? I mean, really,

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<v Speaker 1>where are we and what are we doing? Is all

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<v Speaker 1>of this for pomp and circumstance or is it real?

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<v Speaker 1>And what kind of weight does this impeachment piece hold? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it. I think it holds a lot of weight.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, these impeachments, obviously they have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>symbolic value, and symbols matter right now. Um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it also has some some teeth. I think one hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that the president doesn't try to run again. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>social media platforms I commend them for blocking him. But

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<v Speaker 1>one wonders is it is it too much, too late?

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<v Speaker 1>He's on the way out now you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>bold when you're partly responsible for creating this monster who

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<v Speaker 1>is Donald Trump? But not But you know, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was able to leverage his celebrity, he was able to

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<v Speaker 1>use the platform of the White House. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he gravely endangered the security of the United States. He

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<v Speaker 1>threatened the integrity I think of the democratic system. He

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<v Speaker 1>he interfered with the peaceful transition of power. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that he effectively imperiled, in many ways a co equal

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<v Speaker 1>branch of government. He really betrayed his most fundamental trust

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<v Speaker 1>as a president. And I think that alone warrants impeachment.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it warrants a trial. I think it even

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<v Speaker 1>warrants removal from office. I mean, it's almost it's really

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<v Speaker 1>too late, effectively, but it's certainly meets the test that

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<v Speaker 1>is qualify him to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust,

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<v Speaker 1>or even profit under the US. So what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know is what is the chances of him actually

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<v Speaker 1>getting convicted? Because me and to me was having a

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<v Speaker 1>discussion and she was saying, there's a certain amount of

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans that have to agree that some of them have

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to the impeachment, but now they won't agree to

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<v Speaker 1>the conviction. And what does that process look like? We

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<v Speaker 1>we did it in the House, I mean, now it's

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<v Speaker 1>really in the Senate's hands, and if it if it

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<v Speaker 1>fails in the Senate, because even though we have a

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<v Speaker 1>slim it looks like we're gonna have a slim margin

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<v Speaker 1>of the majority in the Senate. But that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>all senators will be in an agreement universally, because senators

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<v Speaker 1>represent the entire states, and the more we get into

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<v Speaker 1>Biden's administration, I think he's going to see people with

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<v Speaker 1>less of a less of an appetite quite frankly, to

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<v Speaker 1>pursue an impeachment. Especially a third of them will be

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>on the battle in two so a lot of them

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>are not gonna want to deal with this impeachment question

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>when many of their states have huge Trump supporters, particularly

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.200
<v Speaker 1>of the strand that we saw the other day. And

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these senators happen to be moderate senators,

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think that I don't think they want

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 1>to take that political risk because if I were running

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 1>against them, I would certainly use it to unseat them.

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>So it's a political calculation they're going to have to make,

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and quite frankly, some of them philosophically feel like it's unnecessary.

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>We need to go forward. Joe Biden has already said

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 1>that he's not going to pursue any investigations against Donald

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Trump once he's in office. Um, some of us have

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 1>been critical of that, but you know, I think that

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>he's looking at his own legacy and and and Joe

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Biden is uh, he's a Democrat, but he's also a

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 1>centrist as well, So he's still having to appeal to

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>senators that he's going to have to talk to when

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:47.439
<v Speaker 1>it comes to time for his his infrastructure bill that

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>we're hoping for. So now, am I right that you

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>need a trial and conviction in order for the things

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 1>that you mentioned, you know, for him not to be

0:26:56.640 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 1>able to run in and for there to harsh uh

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>circumstances that are applied to the impeachment. Is that correct?

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>That is correct? That is correct? So the question becomes

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>who will have the stomach. You know, it's the popular

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:13.679
<v Speaker 1>thing to do right now, and you know what this

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:17.159
<v Speaker 1>new cycle, things change very rapidly so when it becomes unpopular,

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>when it becomes a thing of the past, I don't

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.439
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people will have the stomach the

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>trial can happen after Joe Biden is in office in

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the White House. We still have a trial and a

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>procedure and investigations and hearings that many people still plan

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 1>on holding after Trump was out of office. Um, my

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>hope is that we will still move forward. But there

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>are even new Democrats who are in very marginal districts

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>who just don't want to deal with it. I mean,

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>there are folks who didn't want to deal with the

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>impeachment in the first place over a year ago who

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 1>were Democrats, And now, um, under the year of reapportionment,

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 1>where you have a lot of general assemblies and state

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>legislators who are redrawing these congressional maps, A lot of

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>people don't want to be vocal because they don't want

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 1>to piss off their state senators and state representatives who

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be drawing these maps in the next few months.

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly, because depending on the state, I know, I

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>think we're gonna get our maps in like April. A

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are gonna get their maps and their

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>new districts, and they don't want to piss off anybody,

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>uh and that environment, especially if they barely want by

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a certain percentage depending only depending on the makeup of

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>they don't want to do it political expediency. So basically

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>what's going on is Trump has gangster the whole system

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty much. It's like like this, like when you sit

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>there and thinking about this is really like when you

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>watch our camponent j'all guard. What they've done have created

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>a structure that says you can't touch us. Like when

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you say untouchable, they've created an untouchable Like, Okay, if

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>you go against Trump, you have to really worry about

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>losing your livelihood, you have to be worried about being ousted.

0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>You actually have to worry about your life. Like this

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>is really serious. This is when I'm sitting here listening

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to this. People know that he did something wrong, they

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>know he should get impeached, They know what he did

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>as a crime. But people that they're supposed to uphold

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the constitution and laws, and he got so scared to say, yo,

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you did something wrong that people are just want just

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go away. And then when they think it's

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna go away, he actually can run again and and

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>regain the same seat again, And people and now people

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>actually saying, you know what, I'd rather just let that happen.

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it's I think you're on the

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>right track. I think that there are people like Liz Cheney,

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and there are other people who have spoken out about it,

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>uh Kims and dirt. But I have seen people who

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>come from Ivy League institutions. I've seen people who have

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>been generals. I've seen people who in their communities their

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>viewed as being decisive leaders, as bold leaders. When dude

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>walks in the room, and I've only met him twice,

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>he's he objectively, he's likable. But I grew up in

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the hood. I go up around sociopaths and psychopaths, and

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I grew up around kats who and and I didn't

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:14.239
<v Speaker 1>let them bar me, you know what I mean. So

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not letting dude bar me. So it just it

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>shocks me that these people who are supposed to be

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>so about our democracy and so about uh making sure

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>that we have separate, coequal branches of government. I mean,

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>people who were reckless when it came to Obama, people

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>who were bold and even disrespectful when it came to

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>their critiques of President Obama. They were shaking up when

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Trump was in the room. They just wanted him to

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.719
<v Speaker 1>wave at him if he would do an ad for him.

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>They were so afraid that he would come into their districts,

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>do a rally and say, well, you know what, I

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>love your state, but your commiss woman, your congressmen, they suck.

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>That alone could jeopardize somebody's reelection effort. So the limit

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>of that kind of reality, I think it's it's sad.

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>And then you had Republican leadership who wouldn't back him up.

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>So if Trump said that and a chief party candidate

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>wanted to run against the city Republican, you would have

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>a fear from the from the RNC not dumping money

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>into your campaign to help you block against being primary.

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>And so to your point, it was a very gangster

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and manipulative. But but but I wonder, man, I think

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that this is such a case study in the human behavior.

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, in the in the seventies and eighties and nineties,

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>there was a big effort in the mental health community,

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>particularly with psychologists of de programming people who came from

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>so called cults. And I know that's a controversial term

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>or or the more believe me, I definitely applies here precisely.

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you you you look at you look

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 1>at cats like Trump or or somebody like Jim Jones

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>or David Koresh. I wonder, and I raised this question

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the other day. I was on a zoom with Dame

0:31:56.040 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Dash and some pastors. I wonder, if people start off

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>like this and then they become corrupt, or was it

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>already in them in the environment brought out. I think

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the people think it's a combination of both. I think

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>being someone who's very I consider myself to be cerebral

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and a thinker who constantly thinks and strategizes, I'm able

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to see these things right and I am I'm able

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>to realize that if I was somebody who was for evil,

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I can utilize this ability to think for evil. I realized.

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>So when I watch other people do it, like I

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>noticed a sociopath, I can look at the sociopath easily,

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>but they know exactly what they're doing because when you,

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>when you are a thinker, you know exactly what you're doing.

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's a mixture of both. I think

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>people they start off, they start to realize that they

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>have this gift, They have this power that a lot

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>of people don't tune into. A lot of people don't

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>understand that they're the strength that they have in their

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>conviction and their thoughts actually become things, right, A lot

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>of people don't notice that. It's about how you utilize

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, It's like Obama has the same ability, right,

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>but he never wanted to utilize it for what it

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>is that this is. It's like two polar when you

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>look at this, right, I was watching the Matrix the

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>other day, So this is like Neo and Smith, right,

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>They was actually this Mr Smith and Neil. They was

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>actually the same person. It was just like the opposite.

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>He was his opposite twin. You know, Neo was trying

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to save everybody and Smith was

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out how to take over everything. You know.

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>That's why Trump bothered Obama so much, right, because he's

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>seen the power he had. But he was bothered by

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's bothered by Obama so much because he

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>had He's seen this man who had the most charisma,

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>was loved by everybody, and he couldn't understand what he

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>wanted the same power, but he wanted it for negativity.

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's like a polar opposite, right. So I think

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>your to your point, it has it's something that you're

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>born with, but then when you realize it, it's which

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>way you take it. And I think Trump has realized

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that he wanted to take it to control everything, not

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>to try to make things better. So we always knew

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>this about Trump, right, because we're New Yorkers, and so

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>we know him and Juliani, all these individuals. We know

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>them from many many years ago, from decades ago when

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>he was being a slum lord and a you know,

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>a terrible employer, a racist, a bigot, especially in the

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 1>way that he handled the Central Park five when he

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 1>took out the advertisement in the New York Times paiper

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>full page ad calling for their execution, and still to

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>this day, knowing that they have been exonerated, he has

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>never ever apologized in or said that he now knows

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 1>that he was wrong. So this is his behavior. But

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to lose you before for hearing more

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>from you about what happened in your situation, because I

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know if we're talking enough about what these insurrectionists

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>these thugs, right, I call them ghetto, all of them. Right.

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we talk enough about what particular

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:08.280
<v Speaker 1>congressional members have suffered as a result of them being

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>in that building. Corey Bush's tweeted the other day something

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I thought was so powerful. She says, we're building a

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>perimeter around the outside of the capital to keep people out,

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.359
<v Speaker 1>but the real threat is on the inside with us.

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>And there they were setting y'all up inside the building.

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>So now we know that there was a letter that

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>was found by one of these individuals with your name

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>on it, and it is a national security threat? Can

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you tell us about that? Yeah? You know, I was

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>very um disappointed. I don't want to say shock, uh.

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>And I found out about this indicted terrorists that he

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>had the means, the opportunity to carry out plans to

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>violently attack, injure and destroy government officials, government property. And

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, these weren't just idol threats. These were planned

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and organized measures to take my life, my colleagues lives,

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and to destroy our government. And you know, I think

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>it's especially disappointing to see the failure by law enforcement officials,

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 1>especially the Capitol police, to notify people like myself. I

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:21.760
<v Speaker 1>get death threats all the time, and a few times

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:25.439
<v Speaker 1>the FBI reached out. We always contact the Capitol Police

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and the Sergeant at Arms, and they have failed miserably.

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I had colleagues criticized me because for the past decade,

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I've been openly critical of the Sergeant at arms, because

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>every time I've gotten a death threat, they've been very dismissive.

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>He had my name on the list of good guys

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and bad guys. And you know, first of all, as

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>a black man and as a Muslim, you know, I've

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 1>been on the corner as a teenager and dudes have

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 1>pulled up and shout out the block looking for somebody else,

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 1>and I've not been hit, and I was. I mean,

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I feared for my life. And I would expe actually

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>as an as a as a middle aged man, as

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>an adult, to at least be safe on Capital grounds.

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>You know what I have. I have even my experience

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>having been arrested at seventeen outside of a mosque and

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>and and charge with battery on the police officer resisting

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the rest in fleeing, certainly not the experience that my

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>brother my son has gone through. But then having even

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>been in law enforcement for a few years. You know,

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I've I've won my colleagues about the serious threat to

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>national security by white nationalists, domestic terrorists, and seeing these

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>additionists rampaids to the capital with their Confederate flags, and

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and learning that many of the attackers had affiliations with

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>police agencies, not a shocker, and and and some of

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 1>these guys were part time military and active military. And

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think that there should be any

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>doubt that white supremacy is the largest threat to our

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 1>internal security. The FBI restrict least to report five years

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>ago verifying that white supremacists pose the greatest threat to

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>our internal security. When you hear terrorism, it has a

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Muslim face, and Islamic face, a brown face, certainly a

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>black face, but you don't deal with the whiteness that

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:20.760
<v Speaker 1>exists within terrorists. Right now, there is no federal charge

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>for domestic terrorism home grown I call it homegrown terrorism,

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>homegrown terrors. So that's why they're looking at vandalism suddition

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 1>to these kinds of charges. But I think that we

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 1>have to approach domestic terrorism now. There's a school of

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>thought that says, if you have established a federal domestic

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>terrorism charge. Then you're gonna have law enforcement and federal

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>agencies target black lives, matters, target other organizations with these charges.

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's a tricky situation, but I think we have

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:56.360
<v Speaker 1>to develop language that has a specificity to attack these groups.

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>So we have the opportunity, I believe in this moment

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 1>to get the work done if if ever, And I

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>trust individuals like you, Congressman Carson. You also our friends,

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>so we also call you Andre, but we are We

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you for coming in and speaking with us today

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and kind of giving us more insight, and you have

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>so much more to offer. We can hear it. Like

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, we definitely need to have you back on definitely, man.

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 1>You know your family to us. Man, we just God

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>bless you that you know that while you inside there

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that you know nothing happened to you guys in your

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>life is safe. You know those threats havening't been have

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 1>materialized into anything. Man. But we just want to let

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>you know you in our prayers, we appreciate the work

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:39.800
<v Speaker 1>that you do brother, in the way that you represent

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>us properly in those buildings. So thank you continue to

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>do what you do, man, Thank you man. I appreciate

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you both. Man, what an honor to be on the platform,

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so proud of you all. Keep up the

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 1>bit work man. But it's still dre you know what

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 1>it is. That's right. Appreciate you man. Before we go

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 1>to the next segment and have our special guests joint,

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break for our sponsors. Still

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>dread even though he got his little suit on. You know,

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>he's always got love for Drake Man. He was the

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 1>first person that brought me to the Legislative Conference, you

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, first panel when I was just

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>getting my feet wet into activism, and you know, he

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>recognized it, had me spriped some bars and all that there.

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's always love and just hearing him and understanding

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 1>this process. I just don't think we're gonna get that

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 1>was that was what from. But he's gonna be But

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I think though, I think though we have

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.359
<v Speaker 1>to keep things, this is really important. We gotta keep

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>things on very specific tracks. We cannot let what Donald

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Trump is doing allow us to forget right that we

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 1>just won the White House up against these same people

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>because they went they went to war it's not like

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>they were cool. But you gotta think about this, right,

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 1>we want the else, right, But when you think about

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:11.919
<v Speaker 1>how scared these people are still with Trump after we won,

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not like we lost, right if we was

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 1>lost and Trump was still like moving going to the

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>next level and people were scared, and he'd be like, Okay,

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:24.800
<v Speaker 1>this man is losing. Got impeached and they still scared

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 1>to like this. But he didn't have to say it

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to me, because this is what I was thinking, because

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm really watching. When I watched the Republicans talk about Trump, right,

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and they said, don't divide the country anymore, Like they're

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>literally scared, right, well to hold somebody. Listen to me,

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>when you are scared to hold someone account, Like we

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>know he did it wrong, but we just we want

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:50.399
<v Speaker 1>to ignore it because he's so strong that him being

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>mad at us can completely divide this country and we

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>just don't want to deal with that. But I don't

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 1>know if they're just scared. I think that they are

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 1>him and he is them. I think we have to

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>stop giving them excuses for why they're doing what they're doing.

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 1>These people want their power, their way, But right now,

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the most fabulous woman that I most fabulous soul. And

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you know this is my stand out all the fabulous

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 1>because I'm a fabulous Harlem girl. There is my fabulous

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Harlem sister. We've just been talking about impeachment and it's

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>it just feels so good to turn and look at you.

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>You always gotta smile, so we don't have some energy,

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>look at all, look at all that background around you?

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Did that? You did that. We love you so much,

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Betty Smith. I love you guys so much. And you

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 1>know when I reached out to you to Mika, I

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be on this show because it's so important

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 1>what you guys are doing and all the my show,

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my my book is about transformation and remixing

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 1>your life and and and making changes in your life.

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I do have to address racial politics in it because

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 1>there's no way that I could be I could have

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.720
<v Speaker 1>had the careers that I had UM and with stood

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>all of the micro and macro racial aggressions that I

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 1>experienced UM if I didn't have a strong, solid foundation

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 1>that you personally have experienced exactly in your personal life.

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Because you're a very bold woman and you've been out here.

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 1>You look amazing amazing thirty years old tops. But I

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 1>know Betty Smithson's I was a young girl, and I

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 1>have a great deal of respect for your career and

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>the path that you have chartered. I know that you

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 1>walking into the room as bold Betty didn't work everywhere. Yeah,

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>well you know what they're honestly to Maka, I made

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 1>it work because I refused to ask for permission. You know,

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I stood very strong on and the fact that I

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>was from a cultural legacy of black greatness. So when

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I was in Milan and Powers and sitting back in

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 1>French um front world of fashion shows, and people say, well,

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>where are you from, I would tell them harm not Manhattan,

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I would tell them harm

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:20.839
<v Speaker 1>because that's where I'm from, and that's what gave me

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the ump and the zest and the zeal in which

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>to get things done. It really was harm. So actually,

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:32.280
<v Speaker 1>the last acknowledgement in my book is actually to Harlem

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the Hamlet. And I also point out something else. Even

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>when I started making good money, probably in my late twenties,

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:42.279
<v Speaker 1>and I chose to stay in my community because I

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 1>knew it was important for people to see me. I

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 1>knew it was very important for black girls to see me.

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>So on any given day, you can find Betty, this

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>international superstar in her listen to me. She's so connected.

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I've known Bevy for so many is and she's

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>been you know, there's a lot of people in this

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 1>industry that the industry changes them or they're not accessible.

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:10.879
<v Speaker 1>They they industry play these little industry games. Bevy has

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 1>never been that person. She's always a phone call away.

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I call up, she called me. She we can have

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>a regular conversation. We meet up, we see each other

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>out of state. We said that the bar have a drink.

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>She's still having the same conversation. Like you are one

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of the most down to earth people and watching you

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 1>grow constantly reinvent yourself and be successful in so many

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:35.760
<v Speaker 1>different ways, Like knowing that you came through the same

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>industry and you was doing all these things. I met

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:42.399
<v Speaker 1>you in fact Joe's trailer, you know, after I came

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 1>home from prison and you was in there and me

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 1>and you just started building and you've just been the

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 1>same person. Like how do you continue to reinvent yourself?

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Like what is the secret sauce? The secret sauce is

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>really not ever being complacent complacent, never resting on your laurels,

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, always being up for the chat range

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and always wanted to experience something new, you know what

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Like, I think that one of the saddest

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 1>things is that, you know, so many times in our

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 1>community we don't even dare to dream. We stifle our dreams.

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>And it's not our fault really, it's that that's kind

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:19.360
<v Speaker 1>of been and bred in us a lot of times

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 1>to um, you know, have dreams, but make sure they're sensible, right.

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:25.280
<v Speaker 1>So you could have a dream to be a lawyer

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 1>or a doctor, but you can't have a dream to

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>be an author or to be a TV personality or

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And so a lot of

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 1>times they put a cap on our dreams. Also, we're

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 1>not giving the exposure even though like when I was

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>a kid, I came up through advertising and I started

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>as a receptionist and it was only working in the

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.799
<v Speaker 1>environment that I learned about becoming a media director, which

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.240
<v Speaker 1>is what I did in my twenties. And I started

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:52.719
<v Speaker 1>this career in fashion advertising. But I didn't know that

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>as a little girl growing up in the hood, that

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I could even have a career and advertising and certainly

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>not in fashion, do you so are you a big

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>ment for yes, you know that now you have a

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>bunch of babies. I know I have a bunch of babies.

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 1>That's the mother part of the book, you know, it

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 1>really does come from my L G. B. T qu

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I A family that called me mother. That that um

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Derek J and Ms Lawrence, my co host from Bravo's

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Fashion Queens, they started calling me mother on set and

0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 1>then it just kind of carried on. And then the

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>auntie part is really about the young women. And I

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 1>will say young under forty, the forty really under thirty five.

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I might give y'all something like your thirty six and

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, and you've seen you on TV, and you

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>think of me as your cool auntire, you think of

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:39.000
<v Speaker 1>me as all the times I get the rich auntie.

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:41.840
<v Speaker 1>And then also the best tie part is for me

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and my girlfriends to contempor reveries. You know, we're gonna

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:47.839
<v Speaker 1>been through some things. We know a few things. We're

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna share war stories over cocktails and batuliss trips,

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 1>and you don't doing the things and the things right,

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and we can learn and let me ask one more

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.840
<v Speaker 1>can you notice. I'm sorry, I know you've got questions,

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>but learn right. So I was earlier today and every

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:08.399
<v Speaker 1>show that we do, I have my thought of the day,

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>and I've talked about the journey and the fact that

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.320
<v Speaker 1>so many of these young people think things are gonna

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>happen quickly. They're just gonna get up and have all

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 1>the money, and there's no strategy to it, you know,

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>they just expect someone to give them something. And I

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:26.399
<v Speaker 1>am constantly talking to my babies because now I am

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 1>forty and so i have a bunch of babies and

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm constantly talking to them about that journey and that grind.

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you talk to us about that from from

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 1>your perspective? And when I asked you about having the babies,

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I know from us, and I'm sure you experienced the

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>same thing when we had mentors. Sometimes it wasn't that

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:47.319
<v Speaker 1>they sat with you and talked to you every day.

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.799
<v Speaker 1>You just had to watch the work and figure out

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the lessons along the way. It was through osmosis, and

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>we sat down and we looked, and we watched, and

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:00.839
<v Speaker 1>we paid attention and we did try and show both

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 1>when when brown folks were talking, we were quiet because

0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 1>we knew they were gonna drop some gems and some

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 1>jewels when we was gonna catch them, and then we

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:11.839
<v Speaker 1>was gonna go and and get a chain made out

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the jewels, you know, I mean, that's what we did. Um.

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:17.720
<v Speaker 1>But you know, for me, one of the greatest gifts

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 1>that I've ever had is my journey. So when I

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>quit my job at Only Someone magazine at the age

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 1>of thirty eight, I had no idea would take seven

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 1>years to actually secure the TV job that I was

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:32.319
<v Speaker 1>going after. Took seven years. That's when the hell of

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 1>a journey. And honestly, if I had known it was

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna take seven years, I may not have quit. That's

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>a really long time. I mean, obviously I'm rever be

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 1>happy that I did it because it worked out really great.

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>But in the meantime, in between time. In my book,

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the chapter that I talked about is Broke but Blissful,

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's when I went broke. That that's when like

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 1>threifty thousand dollars a year and then two years later

0:49:57.200 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>two three to thirty five thousand dollars. So one tempt

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of what I used to make and what did that

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 1>look like? Will that look like? Housing court. Will that

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 1>look like stretching meals, that look like having to borrow

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>money from my old parents, having to borrow money from

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:14.319
<v Speaker 1>one of my dear friends who lived all the way

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:16.719
<v Speaker 1>in communist China, and she had to find a way

0:50:16.719 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 1>to wire me some thousands of dollars so I wouldn't

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 1>get evicted, you know. So there were all these trials

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and tribulations. But along the way, there was so much

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:27.200
<v Speaker 1>bliss going on. Like, for instance, I just had Prell

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 1>on my radio show. He was my first guest ever

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>on Revelations, and he came back to celebrate the launch

0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>of this book and he talked about the dinner parties

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:37.400
<v Speaker 1>said I created. So I created a business when I

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>was broke called Dinner with Beby, and I took what

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>was at my hands. And this is the important part

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:46.760
<v Speaker 1>for your audience. We all have innate gifts and skill sets,

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's about us taking what we have at our hands.

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:54.320
<v Speaker 1>As black folks and it's brown folks. We have that gift.

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 1>We have the tenacity, we have the resilience, and we

0:50:57.200 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 1>have the ingenuity to take with this at our hands

0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:02.359
<v Speaker 1>and create something. That's what we did with hip hop.

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:04.840
<v Speaker 1>That's what I did with dinner with you know what

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, We're gonna take We're gonna make nothing into

0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:10.839
<v Speaker 1>something all day every day. That's what we're gonna do.

0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna make lemonade and we're gonna spike it because

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you you're gonna spike it. You definitely. I'm gonna tell

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:21.279
<v Speaker 1>us about the book, like what is the name of

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the book? Ok we need to get the relations lessons

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 1>for my mother auntie bestie. So all right, I broke

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:34.240
<v Speaker 1>down with the mother. The auntie. The bestie is about

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I called the unholy trinity um and so to me,

0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you would be a bestie to me, but to so

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:43.920
<v Speaker 1>many people you are auntie, and to other people you're

0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:46.960
<v Speaker 1>also a mother. Now seeing my son, you are bestie

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of people, a lot of people. But

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 1>then you also have aunties in your life ahead you

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 1>got well, sir, Okay, And so the book is really

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 1>about um my trials and tribulations from finding out that

0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:05.439
<v Speaker 1>I was miserable even though I had a dream job.

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Obviously only black person in management et wonman Stone magazine.

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.400
<v Speaker 1>They had a writer to Ray. He was there, but

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 1>he was on the crem on the editorial side. I

0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>was on the business side, a k a. The money,

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>with the money. I was. I was residing with the money, Okay,

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I was with the money aside of that and UM,

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>but obviously only one. And this is in two thousand

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 1>and five and and and to me, that's just ridiculous

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:33.399
<v Speaker 1>that even in two thousand and five there was still

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the only one conversations going on. UM. But when I

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 1>quit my job, I quit with the idea that I

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do TV. I want the DJ I want

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 1>to be a photographer. I wanted to be a para sailor.

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to be a writer. I want to be

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 1>an actor. I want to do whatever my creative spirit

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 1>led me to do. I quit for freedom. But this

0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 1>book is about how anyone can do it. I get

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>practical tips on how to build your son. Before you

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.920
<v Speaker 1>finish that, let me say to our audience, I to

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Maka Mallory, I'm going to go purchase twenty books today

0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:13.759
<v Speaker 1>and I am going to send these books to young

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 1>women who I work with across the country that I

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 1>think me to read and know more about this young

0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:25.440
<v Speaker 1>woman who came up in Harlem, who is now the mother,

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 1>the auntie and the bestie of us as black women,

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 1>but so many people around the world. And so I'm

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna buy twenty books and all of my young mentees

0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and friends will receive those books, but I gotta get

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 1>them signed by you. So I gotta drop a meta

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 1>door man. Have you signed a minute? Pick him up?

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:46.919
<v Speaker 1>Because you know it's still COVID. And I learned on

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 1>your Instagram page that the way to talk to you

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 1>is from downstairs outside your balcony. I love it. I'm

0:53:55.440 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 1>like Juliette Romeo. Yeah, I like that. Well, listen, we

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 1>love you so much and we gotta make sure. I'm

0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna see if I can get me a couple of

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 1>books from my little sisters, my mom's. You got to

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:15.879
<v Speaker 1>get those, Like do you know what it is? Ever

0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:18.080
<v Speaker 1>since I met you, you give me like Petty Libell

0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 1>is like my favorite person in the world. And you

0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 1>give me like that vibe. You got that Patty vibe,

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's just so dope. So that's why when you

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:27.839
<v Speaker 1>when I'm looking at this book in the name of it,

0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 1>everything fits, Like I'm telling you, this is exactly who

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Bevy is. She is the best friend, Auntie, the mother,

0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 1>She she embodies all that. So I'm just so proud

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:41.279
<v Speaker 1>of you, man, for real. We love you so much,

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 1>and I just want you to know that I started

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 1>pumping up my mid area here and wearing it out

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit in because you told me you don't

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:52.920
<v Speaker 1>got to cover it all up all the time. Just

0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:56.760
<v Speaker 1>because you in social justice doesn't mean you can't be sexy.

0:54:56.800 --> 0:55:00.839
<v Speaker 1>And so you definitely rocking my saying. And you kill

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it and you kill it, and you are so sexy.

0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:07.120
<v Speaker 1>You have incredible legs, you have, you lookful little tiny feet.

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 1>You are a sex shot and a social activist. I mean, now,

0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>don't guess. I gotta deal with it when you leave it.

0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:21.120
<v Speaker 1>But you know you're sexy, Okay, baby, you tell me

0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:26.719
<v Speaker 1>more what it's true? Yeah, we love try to keep it,

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, because my grandmother always says, no matter what

0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you're going through, getting that mirror, put that lipstick on,

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:36.239
<v Speaker 1>bruce yourself up and feel good about you even if

0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:39.359
<v Speaker 1>no one else does. Don't look like what you've been through.

0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:43.879
<v Speaker 1>There you go. That's us. So thank you guys so much.

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 1>We love you, We thank you for coming to I

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:51.440
<v Speaker 1>would show you whenever you want to come you here, belations. Yes,

0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 1>thank you guys. Man, She was like just getting warmed up.

0:55:56.880 --> 0:56:02.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, we know she's really really just um dope,

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:05.759
<v Speaker 1>and I know I'm learning from her. Not enough of

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:09.120
<v Speaker 1>our young people understand how important some of what she

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 1>was talking about. She said one thing that I know

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:15.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of younger folks don't necessarily like that. We

0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:18.839
<v Speaker 1>said we sat in rooms and we were quiet. I

0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:22.319
<v Speaker 1>did that for many years in my career. I sat

0:56:22.400 --> 0:56:25.240
<v Speaker 1>in rooms where I did not speak. They always said

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you'd be seen and not heard. And I know that,

0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you know when we you know, it's not something that

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:37.399
<v Speaker 1>you want to pass around freely, right because we don't

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:41.640
<v Speaker 1>want to be stifling our younger people and not allowing

0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:45.800
<v Speaker 1>them to have a voice. But there is a process,

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and it is important to listen. It's important to taking

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of information and to be a fly on

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the wall, especially when you're coming up. And so if

0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I go out right now with you know, Bev Smith

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and Tradasse from Sylvia's and other women um that I

0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 1>look up to and that I respect. When I'm out

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:11.359
<v Speaker 1>with them, I listen, you know, and of course they

0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:14.240
<v Speaker 1>respect me and I can have a voice. But I listened.

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to bed with I was like intently listening

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to what she has to say. And I'm gonna read

0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 1>this book with intention as well to learn and to

0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:28.400
<v Speaker 1>pass them. Definitely, gotta go get relations, relations, revelations, bevelations,

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Go get it man, you know, and I remember that sentiment,

0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, as a young boy. I guess that's why

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I always had like a lot of older friends, because

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I would listen, because I was a sponge and I

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 1>paid attention, like they would love to sit and talk

0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to me when everybody else was trying to do a

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of things. I wanted to get information. I was

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 1>sitting around people, especially people that I've seen that were

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 1>successful with the things that I wanted to do. I

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:52.640
<v Speaker 1>would sit around and just listen and ask questions and

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:55.240
<v Speaker 1>then just take in, not just debate. Even if I

0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:57.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't agree with something, I would just take it in

0:57:57.400 --> 0:58:00.200
<v Speaker 1>after and then when I when I didn't agree, but

0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:02.920
<v Speaker 1>when I didn't, you do you still do that. I

0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:06.760
<v Speaker 1>don't agree with you because you're crazy. But at the

0:58:06.840 --> 0:58:08.400
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, you know, when I didn't agree,

0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I would think about the way to say okay, to

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to relate that I don't agree without being being compared.

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of these kids. You know

0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying you because you're very argument You don't

0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:25.120
<v Speaker 1>realize no, no, I watch you in your communication with

0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:30.600
<v Speaker 1>other peoples, go back to your lives. All I'm saying

0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:32.880
<v Speaker 1>is that, well, I didn't say I wasn't I'm saying

0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I am. But I what I will say is that

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:39.120
<v Speaker 1>that's something that I think is actually an attribute of yours.

0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Even though sometimes you're a little nuts and we have

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:46.919
<v Speaker 1>to bring you down, calm you down, but you definitely

0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:51.760
<v Speaker 1>will listen to people's perspectives. And then one day I

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:55.720
<v Speaker 1>hear you repeating what you heard in either the affirmative

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:58.480
<v Speaker 1>or not, saying this is what I think about it.

0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:01.200
<v Speaker 1>But you won't necessarily say it in that moment because

0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:04.120
<v Speaker 1>one thing that I think, um that I've noticed about

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you is you don't want to like to be wrong.

0:59:06.120 --> 0:59:08.120
<v Speaker 1>That's a man thing, but you know that's another day,

0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess women is. But but also what I think

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:14.240
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to do is to sound stupid in

0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the room about something you don't know. So I think

0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:20.120
<v Speaker 1>that's a good thing. It's a good thing. Well sometimes

0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know it, and sometimes I don't get it.

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:30.760
<v Speaker 1>That brings me to I don't get it. So we've

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 1>been talking about all of this with impeachment Trump and

0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:37.560
<v Speaker 1>how this looks right and this is young there's a

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:39.800
<v Speaker 1>he's not a young boy anymore, but it's a boy

0:59:39.840 --> 0:59:42.280
<v Speaker 1>by the name of Dante. Mit you a man actually

0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:45.000
<v Speaker 1>forty one year old man who's been in prison since

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:48.640
<v Speaker 1>he was seventeen years you know, and he was heartbreak.

0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:51.000
<v Speaker 1>It's heartbreak. He's been in prison since he was seventeen.

0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:54.120
<v Speaker 1>He was arrested for robbin and McDonald's. He walked into

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:56.320
<v Speaker 1>McDonald's with a gun, shot in the air, told people

0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to go in the back, locked the little room, took

0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the money. No, he was injured, nobody was hurt. He

1:00:02.200 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't hit anybody, nothing. Seventeen year old, reckless, just being,

1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:12.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, improperly influenced by just things. His mother was

1:00:12.040 --> 1:00:14.320
<v Speaker 1>on drugs. He was dealing with so much different trauma,

1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:17.680
<v Speaker 1>trauma that I've experienced myself. I know people going through it.

1:00:18.320 --> 1:00:21.240
<v Speaker 1>And because of this, Crowning Man was sentence to thirty

1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:25.120
<v Speaker 1>five to seventy years in prison. But somebody could have

1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:27.280
<v Speaker 1>gotten hurt, Okay, it could have. And then I'm not

1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:29.920
<v Speaker 1>saying he didn't deserve to have to go to prison,

1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:32.880
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not saying that, but thirty five years at

1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:36.760
<v Speaker 1>seventeen for comming a crime that nobody was hurt. Thirty

1:00:36.800 --> 1:00:38.600
<v Speaker 1>five years. The man has been in jail for the

1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:41.840
<v Speaker 1>last twenty four years. So what I don't get is

1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:47.320
<v Speaker 1>how you can cause insurrections, but you can stom the

1:00:47.400 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 1>capitol when intent to kid home like with intense you know,

1:00:56.200 --> 1:00:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and people die in all of this, and and and

1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the charges that you give these people or charges that

1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:04.120
<v Speaker 1>they might do maybe four or five years, but you

1:01:04.120 --> 1:01:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you're charging this man at seventeen year old, a kid

1:01:08.640 --> 1:01:10.600
<v Speaker 1>thirty five or seventy years. We got a people that

1:01:10.680 --> 1:01:14.920
<v Speaker 1>don't even want to impeach a president that caused insurrection,

1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that caused the cool against this nation. They don't even

1:01:17.840 --> 1:01:19.720
<v Speaker 1>want to impeach him. They want to give him the

1:01:19.800 --> 1:01:24.320
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to be the president again. In But a seventeen

1:01:24.400 --> 1:01:29.000
<v Speaker 1>year old boy, poverty stricken, dealing with drugs, dealing with

1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:33.680
<v Speaker 1>trauma and communities, not even understanding the ramification of his actions.

1:01:33.720 --> 1:01:36.480
<v Speaker 1>You were sentenced thirty five to seventy years and he's

1:01:36.480 --> 1:01:40.000
<v Speaker 1>still in jail twenty four years after. You know, they're

1:01:40.040 --> 1:01:43.080
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be acting in New York City, where they

1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:46.160
<v Speaker 1>are acts where sixteen to seventeen shouldn't be charged as adults,

1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:50.560
<v Speaker 1>where there were clemency situations that Governor Cromwell had promised

1:01:50.800 --> 1:01:53.840
<v Speaker 1>to give consideration to, and this man fits the criteria

1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:56.320
<v Speaker 1>for that. So I really just don't get what are

1:01:56.320 --> 1:01:59.800
<v Speaker 1>we doing? What? Why are we over criminalizing our youth,

1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:03.240
<v Speaker 1>especially black and brown youth. Why are we were so

1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:07.560
<v Speaker 1>quick to throw the key away, you know, for young

1:02:07.640 --> 1:02:11.080
<v Speaker 1>black boys who are definitely experienced in trauma. But white

1:02:11.080 --> 1:02:14.560
<v Speaker 1>supremacists who planned to murder, who are grown and who

1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:18.360
<v Speaker 1>understand the ramification and acts a president who causes and

1:02:18.440 --> 1:02:23.480
<v Speaker 1>directs people to take over this government. We we barely

1:02:23.480 --> 1:02:26.840
<v Speaker 1>go impeach him. We listened to you know, you know

1:02:26.960 --> 1:02:31.840
<v Speaker 1>counsel I mean, Senator Carson explained to us how he

1:02:31.920 --> 1:02:35.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't even really believe that he's gonna get any conviction.

1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:38.320
<v Speaker 1>But this young boy is sitting in jail. I'm looking

1:02:38.320 --> 1:02:41.120
<v Speaker 1>on my phone to find the name of this woman,

1:02:41.160 --> 1:02:45.680
<v Speaker 1>another woman that we've been talking about, Gloria Taylor. She

1:02:45.960 --> 1:02:51.320
<v Speaker 1>confessed to selling a handful of cocaine and they gave her.

1:02:51.400 --> 1:02:54.400
<v Speaker 1>She's been in prison now for thirty years or something

1:02:54.560 --> 1:02:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, nine hundred and nine nine years,

1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:06.280
<v Speaker 1>nine years. It is the sentence for this woman. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the time that she's serving for selling a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of cocaine. The sentence and laws have got to be changed,

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<v Speaker 1>the sentences laws and the people who you sentencing. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to know, we have to notice. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>why a lot of people were critical a Biden and

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<v Speaker 1>this and this is why, and this is why I

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<v Speaker 1>pledged to make sure that they held accountable. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of those laws, these crack laws that were

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<v Speaker 1>put into order, they affected black and brown people, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're still they were targeted and they're still affecting black

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<v Speaker 1>and rown people. And we want this administration to understand

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<v Speaker 1>that they have done harm to our communities and they

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<v Speaker 1>have an obligation to try to write those wrongs. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at Gloria Taylor, when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>Dante Mitchell, you know you can. This is a good

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<v Speaker 1>faith basis to start with making sure that you write

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<v Speaker 1>these wrongs. And then as we go down the line

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<v Speaker 1>and we look make these lords retroactive. Because people, when

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<v Speaker 1>you think when I when I talked to this young

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<v Speaker 1>man who was now in solitary confinement because he started

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<v Speaker 1>organization for young black and brown youth and they called

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<v Speaker 1>his organization a gang anything that you do inside the prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he the one that they started making like clothes, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not that guy. But that's another there's another guy.

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<v Speaker 1>They started making clothes out of just you know, sheets

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<v Speaker 1>and scraped something and they created like fashion and they

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<v Speaker 1>and they locked them up because they said it was

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<v Speaker 1>against the rules. So they stifle your your creativity, They

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<v Speaker 1>styckle your your your ability to evolve and to grow.

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<v Speaker 1>But eight clothes for corporate core craf. You can make

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<v Speaker 1>the core crap, make the clothes Victorias, Victoria's Secret and

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<v Speaker 1>all these you can make their clothes, but you can't

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<v Speaker 1>work on your skill sets. So that if when we

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<v Speaker 1>turn to to return to society at right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>with Deante his name is Dante Dante and Gloria Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>these can't be situations that we just look at and

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<v Speaker 1>say it's so bad. We actually have to do some work.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have the ability to they can, they can,

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<v Speaker 1>they can get clemency, like Dante is actually working on

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<v Speaker 1>clemency and you know he's doing everything you can, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're looking at this administration, We're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>people of influence, like, let's talk about this, let's make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that these things are you know, rectified, and that

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<v Speaker 1>these people actually have a chance to come home now

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<v Speaker 1>and live productive lives. Absolutely, I agree with that said episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a great conversation with both of our guests today.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell that they have a wealth of knowledge. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Congressman Carson, I'm looking forward to us working

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<v Speaker 1>with him. I'm sure that is a different swag that

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<v Speaker 1>some of our congressional members have now that they know

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<v Speaker 1>there's a White House. Um that they can call and

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<v Speaker 1>get somebody with good sense on the phone. Doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>they're always gonna do the right thing, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>they can call up and have a conversation. They know

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<v Speaker 1>that there's now going to be a Senate because I

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine if I was a congressional member, how

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<v Speaker 1>how after a while you just like you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>want to be there anymore. Where every time you work

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<v Speaker 1>hard to pass something, it goes to the Senate and

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<v Speaker 1>it gets shot down that no one wants to operate

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<v Speaker 1>at work in that type of environment all the time

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<v Speaker 1>when you know that you're doing all this work and

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<v Speaker 1>you're so invested, and it's not going to actually become

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<v Speaker 1>law because there is another body that has more power

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<v Speaker 1>than you. And so now they know that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>fair shot. And so I would imagine that they're walking

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<v Speaker 1>around because listen AOC and ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib

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<v Speaker 1>and uh Corey Bush and Jamal Bowman. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>can Yvette Clark and the names go on and on

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<v Speaker 1>and on, and of course Andre Carson. We're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>them to do some big things, big things, popping little

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<v Speaker 1>things stuff hopefully hopefully big. Then listen, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>always be right, Jamika Mallory will not always be wrong

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time, she folding to d Mallory. But

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<v Speaker 1>we will both always be that's the fact. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>joining street Politicians. Peace Peace as