1 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the cross country mortgage campus 2 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: in Barrio Ohio. This is Cleveland BROWNS DAILY SP IN CLEVELAND. 3 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Ziggura. All right, 4 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: let's see alive on a Monday edit sue the program 5 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: quite frankly, a tone. Neither of us, nor any of 6 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: you thought that we would have thirteen point leads with 7 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: two minutes ago in the opposition having no time outs. 8 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: Those are good. In fact, two thousand two nine straight 9 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: times they were good. It wasn't yesterday. There's about a 10 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: million things and a bunch of layers to how it 11 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: all unraveled and went wrong. The end result is it did, 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: and you sit here, as a one on one football team, saying, 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: my God, how were we not to and Oh, because 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: we should be to an O. and what happened yesterday, 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, the first time it's happening what two 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: decades in the NFL that somebody has blown a lead 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: of this magnitude and unfortunately for the Browns, you had 18 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: a chance to be two and Oh, a chance to 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: be one game ahead of everybody in the A F 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: C north, two games ahead of the Cincinnati Bengals, of 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: defending a F C North Champions and you let it 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: get away and head coach comes to fancy's gonna talk 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: with the media about it right now. J D Jadeveon 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: clowney's has an ankle injury. He'll be out this week 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: due to that injury. Chase Winovich has a hamstring injury. 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: He'll be out and then Jesse James has a bicep injury. 27 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: He will be out. Uh. You know, obviously that's a 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: tough one, tough pill to swallow. Yesterday with that game, 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: the frustration is very, very real when you have a 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: game that you feel like you can close out and 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: we didn't. So that's that's the frustration and that's the disappointment. Uh. 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: Having said that, we got a game Thursday night. We 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: got a game in our building versus a division opponent. 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: So we got a very, very quickly turn the page, 35 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: make corrections and move on because in these short weeks 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: you just can't let the previous game linger. You really 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: do have to move on. So that's what we'll do. 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: We'll meet with the team this afternoon, we'll have a 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: walk through this afternoon and then we're a full bore 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: on the Pittsburgh and with that I'll take any questions. 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, coach. The first one to be 42 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: for Mary Kay, Kevin H yeah, Kevin, let's Um. Can 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: we start with the the Nick Chubb Situation, where he 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: should have gone, you know, out or whatever instead of 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: scoring the last touchdown? I mean, can you kind of elaborate? 46 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: I know what you said after the game, but should 47 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: you have told those told him and told the huddle, 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: do not score there? Yeah, obviously, retrospect Mary Kay, you 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: know you want to do anything that can secure the win. 50 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: So that is something that's my responsibility to communicate to 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: that huddle. Uh, you know, put putting yourself up potentially 52 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: fourteen points inside of two minutes. You know you should. 53 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: You should close out that game. So yes, I wish 54 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: I had said that to nick and and and Nick 55 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: would have done it, um, but it doesn't change the 56 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: fact that we had plenty of opportunities to to win 57 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: that game. Thank you, thanks, Marian Kay. Next up to 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: Jake arter. Yeah, Kevin, after watching the film, do you 59 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: have any more detail of what happened on the six 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: yard touchdown when signited their rally? Yeah, as you can imagine, 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: Jake Um obviously looked at it, talked with the coaches 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: about it. We'll talk to the players about it. I'm 63 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: not going to get into the responsibilities and those type 64 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: of things because I just don't I don't see that 65 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: as a productive bottom line is that should never happen. 66 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: We have to be able to defend the past in 67 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: those obvious passing situations and we just gotta everybody be 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: on the same page and it's frustrating that we weren't 69 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: in that case and I know it happened previous in 70 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: week one as well. So, uh, those are the type 71 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: of things we have to get fixed immediately, um, because 72 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: that's just when you're in a game like that, everybody 73 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: knows what's what they're about to do. It was not 74 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: a surprise to anybody. So that's the only way we 75 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: could have let them back in that game. So again 76 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: it just goes back to have to correct the correctibles. 77 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 1: And then this is a small sample size through two games. 78 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: Miles is number one in the NFL in the second 79 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: and third quarters and pass brush win rate. I know 80 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: that's one of mini metrics to evaluate that. In the 81 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: fourth quarter he is way down compared to those quarters, 82 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: even though he's still you know among the leaders in 83 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. Do you see him getting worn down at 84 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 1: all Laton Games, uh, or have you seen no drop 85 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: off and that's just a statistical anomaly in two games? Yeah, 86 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: I would probably say it's small sample size. Jake uh, 87 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: he's playing at a high level. We're going to continue 88 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: to need him to play at a high level. Jake 89 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: Cam Justice Europe. Think even you guys said that you 90 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: don't practice mistakes. You obviously want to learn from them, 91 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: but you're not going to go out there and necessarily 92 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: practice them. When those breakdowns do happen, though, in communication 93 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: on the defense in Games like yesterday and you have 94 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: those blond coverages, how do you go about preparing that 95 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: for the next week, making sure you're able to prevent 96 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: them in a game setting, but also addressing them in 97 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: a practice setting? Yeah, Camp. So what we'll do, what 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: we have done, is, you know, you practice substitutions in 99 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: in practice. You there are ways to not let the 100 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: defense or offense know which group is going in next. 101 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: You make them lock in on those type of things. 102 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: We practiced in the crowd noise defensively, knowing that we're 103 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: gonna have to be using signals so you do practice 104 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: those type of things and that's really your operation, uh, 105 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: and those are the type of things that you've got 106 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: to continue to uh, be really, really sharp, because it 107 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: does present challenges to the defense. When you're at home, 108 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: and our crowd was great yesterday, and that's what we expect. 109 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to communicate in the crowd noise, 110 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: just like when the offense goes on the road, to 111 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: be able to communicate. I when you're doing that with 112 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: players is they're also an emphas this and communication with 113 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: the coaching staff on the sidelines of getting those plays 114 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: out there to them on the field. Definitely, and that's 115 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: you know, we talked a lot about operation. It's really 116 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: the communication from the booth, from the from the coach's 117 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: booth down to the sideline, from the sidelines to the huddle. 118 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: The communication is vital on the sideline in between series. 119 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean all of that is so important to your operation. Thanks, 120 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: CAMLE's go to Nath Fontana. Kevin, you just mentioned it's 121 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: not very constructive to to go through the responsibilities. It 122 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: is all frustrating when people are firing off who to blame, 123 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: or it's this or that, when they don't even know 124 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: the play calf. Yeah, I would just tell you that respectfully. 125 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: What we deal with what we can control, and that's 126 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: really in this building. Um. And then your entire coaching career. 127 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: Was that the most frustrating laws you've been a part of? Yeah, 128 00:06:55,040 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: I mean they all sting. Uh No, that's not fun. 129 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: You know. So we're you know, it's a it's a 130 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: challenge in this in this business. You know where you stand. 131 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: It's the beauty of this business. It's it's very black 132 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: and white. It's winning loss, Um. But they're hard, they're 133 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: they're hard, they hurt and I think it's just so 134 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: important because of that. You gotta real fast turn the page. 135 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you don't own it, doesn't mean you don't 136 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: make corrections, but you better turn the page thinking that, 137 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: Darrel writer, you're up Kevin after the Carolina game. We 138 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: heard will make the corrections, get it fixed and that 139 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: will be that. And then, so I guess just how 140 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: frustrating is that? You had to repeat of what happened 141 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: in week one and this time it did cost you. 142 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: And then the second part of that. What? What is 143 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: the fix for the communication breakdown? Yeah, I mean, to 144 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: your point there it is frustrating. I mean I don't 145 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: think anybody, anybody who watches that game, doesn't understand the frustration. Um. 146 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Having said that, we have to be problem solvers. We 147 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: have to find solutions, H and any which way. There's 148 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of different ways you can do it, but 149 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: we gotta find solutions so that when we're in position 150 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: like we are, like we were yesterday, and it's an 151 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: obvious passing situation, we just can't we can't let that happen. 152 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: And without getting into the into any specific public blaming 153 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: of any particular player, from your perspective or you know, 154 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Joe Woods, the defensive coordinator, could you see your see 155 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: you guys altering lineups and Whatnotuh, for repeat mistakes when 156 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: it comes to you know, communication breakdown on the field. Well, 157 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean with anything, offense, defense, special teams. Of course 158 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: you're always looking for the right Um lineup out there 159 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: that gives you the best chance. But you know, let 160 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: me be very clear, anything that happens out there, I 161 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: gotta get fixed. that. That's a day, John Chamble, your 162 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: go to to kind of a blessing in disguise, seeing 163 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: how you have a game in just a few days 164 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: it's a short week, so it's been something that is 165 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: just hanging over your head as opposed to having a 166 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: game on Sunday or even maybe on Monday, and then 167 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: a second bob up to that is. How confident are you, 168 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: into a short amount of time, that these errors can 169 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: be fixed? Well, John, yes, I do think it's a 170 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: it's good that we have a game Thursday. Uh. You know, 171 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: I think back to at a a very tough loss 172 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: in in that first game and then right back at 173 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: it at home versus division opponents. So I do think 174 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: it's it's beneficial to just get out on the field today, 175 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: get out of the field tomorrow and then obviously get 176 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: under the lights Thursday night. Uh, and then, like we 177 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, anything that we need to fix we gotta fix. 178 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: We we don't have time to wait. As Kevin Um 179 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: going to the special team aspect of things from yesterday, 180 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: I guess the fake punt opportunity that they got through, 181 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: the missed opportunity to recover that kick. Just whatever your 182 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: conversation has been like with Mike after after rewatching that 183 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: and and things like that, cleaning that stuff up. Yeah, 184 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean, like we talked about, I think last night. Actually, 185 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: we got beat and they did a nice job. They 186 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: executed on a fake punt, they executed on on side kick. 187 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: There are things, of course, that we can do better, Um, 188 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: and we're just gonna have to. We just have to 189 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: find a way in those situations to make a play, 190 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: find a way to get the ball out of bounds 191 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: on a kick and those type of things. So it's 192 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: it's normal football where they're gonna make their fair share 193 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: of plays, but but we gotta just continue to put 194 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: our guys in position to do their job, to put 195 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: them in position to do the job and then have 196 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: our players come through in those moments. Thanks. Thank actually, Marlott. 197 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: Right now, go ahead. Yeah, Kevin, I'm not asking about 198 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: this specific person exactly, but Denzel tweeted that. You know, 199 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: I was only targeted once and you know kind of 200 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering. You worried about players like pointing fingers 201 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: or second guessing Joe Woods calls or just the where 202 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: things stand as far as the team, but you know 203 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: as a whole right now, yeah, Marl I haven't had it. Well, 204 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: obviously talked to the team after the game. I haven't 205 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to the team yet today 206 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: out bringing them in shortly for meetings. So obviously those 207 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: are all things you address and what you have to do. 208 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: When you win, you win as a team and when 209 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: you lose, you lose it as a team. That's that's 210 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: what makes this, you know, the greatest team sport there is. 211 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: It it takes all eleven on offense, defensive, special teams, 212 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: and at the end of the day you got sharing 213 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: the wins and you got sharing the losses. Thank you. Thanks. 214 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: That's get it out. And, Kevin, you didn't mentioned Jacobe 215 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: set in your injury report. How is he? was his 216 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: ankle and could you go over the way he played 217 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: yesterday and and an interception with what happened there? Yeah, 218 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: so he's not on the injury report. He I thought 219 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: he played well. I thought he saw it clearly. Um, 220 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, on the interception there, guy made a play. 221 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: We're trying to get a chunk there and call time out, 222 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: but their guy made a play. Thank you, Jeff. Will 223 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: Take Two more, Scott Patrick and Tony Groszy. Scott, Kevin, 224 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: I had a couple of quick follow ups. Um, so 225 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: had you told Jacobe to have the running backs not 226 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: score before that happened. That's what we've done in the past. Yes, 227 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean, but yesterday, like, did you tell him before 228 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: that snap or anything in the headset you? I did not. 229 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: So I do want to be clear on this one. 230 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: I absolutely could have told him that. Okay, situation, okay, 231 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: and then on that the want the six or six 232 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: yard or were you comfortable with the play call? I'm 233 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: not saying you know who should have been there, but 234 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: you like to call that was out there. Yes, okay, 235 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: and then okay. Thank you. Thank Scott. Last one, ton aggressive. 236 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: Thanks Kevin. One on offense. One on defense. I know 237 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: it's painful, but defense of that long past play at 238 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: this point. I've seen coordinators just put a safety twenty 239 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: yards deep to avoid that situation. Isn't that a logical 240 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: temporary solution to get these until these communications are subtled? Yeah, 241 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: I think there are definitely solutions, Tony, to that, to 242 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: that problem. Um, we've talked about it as a staff. 243 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: We'll put our guys in position to u not let 244 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: that happen again. On the last the interception, Um, it 245 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: looked like it was deeper than get me to the forties. 246 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: That the past was intercepted at the thirty five too deep? No, 247 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't think so. You know that is into the 248 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: dog pound. Um, so one of uh, I don't think. 249 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: I don't think it's safe to just always gets the 250 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: forty with your kicker. I think we're trying to get 251 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: as close as we take Ken to that, uh, to 252 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: kick a shorter field goal. All Right, Tony, thank you, coach. 253 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: Appreciate the time today. Okay, thanks, guys. All right, there's 254 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski with his Monday press conference, one that had 255 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: a very specific tone to it. A lot to break down, Um, 256 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: and we will do so coming up next. Z is here. 257 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: The half is here. You listen to Cleveland Brown's Daily 258 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: on ESPN, CLEVELAND, Cleveland Brown's Daily on ESP and Cleveland. 259 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: All right, welcome. Make it to Cleveland Brown's Daily. Bo Z, 260 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: the half with you on a Monday, a Monday that 261 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: was two minutes from pure joy. When you have a 262 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: collapse like this, so many things have to happen to 263 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: allow for it. Joe, before you got in here, we 264 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: had said that there were two thousand nine consecutive instances where, 265 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: if you have a thirteen or more point lead with 266 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: under two minutes, you win. It had happened that many 267 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: time consecutively, there was a ninety nine chance of victory. 268 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: Once the Nick Chubb touchdown happens, the point one percent 269 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: is what we're talking about today. My friend, you were there, 270 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: by the way, an incredible day for you. Congratulations. I 271 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: know like, Um, you're you're sitting, you're in the stands. 272 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: The day is pure joy and it comes apart in 273 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: two minutes. That's why we're left feeling like we're feeling 274 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: right now, with this pit in our stomach and just 275 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: this pit of misery that I've stepped into this entire day. 276 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: But I had a friend that just came up right 277 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the game, right before the two 278 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: minute warning, and we were breaking some bread in the 279 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: sweet yesterday and we're talking about, Oh, you know, this 280 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: was a really enjoyable game to watch. Like Jacoby Brissette 281 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: came to life. This offense looked efficient, the were smooth, 282 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: they were on everything, all the game plans that they 283 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: had going in. It looked like they executed very well. 284 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: Defense had played well up until that point and you 285 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: just were like this was a good game. Like even 286 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: the jets, from their standpoint, it wasn't sloppy football. I 287 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: thought they had a really nice opening script. Mike Lafleur, 288 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator. I thought he did a good job 289 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: like trying to limit miles with the number of guys 290 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: they just threw at miles to kind of slow them 291 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage. So it was a good game. 292 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: It was clean. It was back and forth. You're sitting 293 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: there feeling really good about about possibly having a two 294 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: score lead or just being able to kneel it out 295 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: when you get under two minutes because your opponent had 296 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: no time outs, and then to watch it all unravel 297 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: in under a two minute stretch. It happened so quickly, 298 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: especially because the jets had no time outs the browns 299 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: only had one. It happened so fast you couldn't even 300 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: comprehend what was happening because your emotions were already in 301 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: a certain lane of traffic. You're already on the on 302 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: ramp to joy and and all of a sudden you 303 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: didn't have enough time for your brain to you turn 304 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: in under two minutes, the way it just collapsed at 305 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: the end. It was shocking and it was unacceptable. I 306 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: mean it's unacceptable to blow a coverage in that situation 307 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: where again, all you had to do was anything but that. 308 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: Just don't allow a one play touchdown. That was really 309 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: all they had to do. Not Allow a one play 310 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: touchdown and the browns win the game. Then you just 311 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: have to recover an onside kick and the browns win 312 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: the game. Then you just gotta get one more stop 313 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: and the Browns win the game. And they couldn't do 314 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: any of those things and it was insane to watch. 315 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: It was chocking. I was stunned. I went through multiple 316 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: stages of of grief. I went from shocked to angry, 317 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: back to shocked, back to angry back and then I 318 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: think I'm still shocked as I sit here today, because 319 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: it was almost impossible, and I have to say almost 320 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: because I would have said it was impossible, but clearly 321 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: it is not and the browns have got to figure 322 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: this out. If I had told you, guys that the 323 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: browns were gonna open the season against Carolina and the 324 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: jets and that they would score twenty, six and thirty 325 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: points in those games, there's no way there were anything 326 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: but two out and and I crazy thing is we're 327 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: a fifty yard field goal away from being and two 328 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: because of defensive blunders that keep happening. People are getting 329 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: mad at the coaches, and I understand you want to 330 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: blame somebody, but if we're a football team that's smart, 331 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: tough and accountable, which is the last word. I know 332 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: nobody wants to talk about it, but at some point, 333 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: like you're getting paid millions of dollars to play this game, 334 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: you've got to do your job, and right now those 335 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: players are not. Joe Doesn't design coverages that involve not 336 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: covering people like that's not what was called in. That's 337 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: not what's supposed to be done, and people are all 338 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: after Joe Woods now. You could say I'd love to 339 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: see him play man. In that situation. Everybody out there 340 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: who plays Madden is nodding. Yet play three man and 341 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: you can't lose the game right there. I don't know 342 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: if that's a real coverage. It works in a video game. 343 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: It feels like it would work if you had three 344 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: deep safeties and everybody was playing man. It fields. Joe 345 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: FLACCO is not gonna run on you. You You know what 346 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean, like just it's there's no coverage. That doesn't 347 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: work in that situation. If you run it as it's 348 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: supposed to be executed, like even if you were in 349 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: you know you're blitzing and you had man coverage in 350 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: the back end, like they're still supposed to cover the 351 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: guys and understand that the situation calls for deeper than 352 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: the deepest. The only way you lose this game is 353 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: if the ball goes over your head. So if there's 354 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: any miscommunication at all, let's just everybody back up. You 355 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: always are on the side of caution in that situation 356 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: and I understand that you don't want to just play 357 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: straight pre event where everyone turns and runs backwards so 358 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: that they can just throw thirty yard underneath routes and 359 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: get out of bounds. But at the same time, if 360 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: there's a motion that happens and there's communication that needs 361 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: to exist on the field and maybe you don't get 362 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: it or maybe you weren't exactly sure with what you 363 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: were supposed to do, you have to air on the 364 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: side of caution. As a left tackle, if I wasn't 365 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: exactly sure that I should slide to the right and 366 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: leave the defensive end for maybe a half back or 367 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: half back in a tight end that are gonna block 368 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: off the edge, well, you know what, I'm gonna Block 369 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: that guy if I'm not absolutely sure, because you cannot 370 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: make the mistakes that Lee two tragic outcomes. And when 371 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: we were talking in the pregame show on bronze countime, 372 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: my vita mix winning key for the day was to 373 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: be deeper than the deepest and don't allow any deep 374 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: throws over your head because of exactly this situation, when 375 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: you're playing against the team that you should beat, the 376 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: only way that they beat you is with explosive plays 377 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: that become catastrophic, which is exactly what happened on Sunday 378 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: and unfortunately, like six of them, happened back to back 379 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: to back on and under two minutes you. I coached 380 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: six and seven year olds in the last minute of 381 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: a game before I head what's the first thing I 382 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: say to him? Nobody behind you, nobody behind you. The 383 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: only way we lose come up pull flags. Yep, that's it. 384 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: That's it. So that is taught at that age and 385 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: for some reason it's happened to us in back to 386 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: back games. Guys, we have talked um about the needle 387 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: that was gonna needed to be threaded. threaded here right 388 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: as you wait for Deshaun Watson. The defense had to 389 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: be great the special teams had to be great and 390 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: we thought the offense would just have to do enough. 391 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: Re member LAYUPS BE layups, win some games, eighteen, that 392 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: type of stuff. The offense has been exceptional. This was 393 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: an extraordinary performance out of our office on Sunday, the 394 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: amount of things that had to go wrong. A missed 395 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: extra point from a guy who had a fifty eight 396 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: yard Er. I mean from a special team standpoint. They 397 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: got a fake punt off on us that they got. 398 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: That can't happen. We talked about the broken coverage a lot. 399 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: That's a big one. Very clearly, if you if you 400 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: watch the all twenty two, very clearly everyone's in cover 401 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: three with the exception of Denzel. Now, how that connection 402 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: doesn't how that communication doesn't get to him? You don't know. 403 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: That's they got to sort that out. But when j 404 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: OK goes to the flat, that tells you you're gone. Um, 405 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: the other guys in coverage, they're all playing that all right. 406 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: So you have and then back to special teams. So 407 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: you have a fake punt, you have a missed extra 408 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: point from a guy who had a fifty eight walk 409 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: off the week before. I've never seen him push a 410 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: kick have you. I've seen him thousand times. I've never 411 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: seen him push a kick. I have never seen him 412 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 1: miss inside of fifty five yards ever. Ever surrendered an 413 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: onside kick which, by the way, even with the blown coverage, 414 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: you just recover the onside kick you win. Now I 415 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: don't know what it looked like in the stadium, but 416 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: from television it looked like we had one guy trying 417 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: to recover it and they had like four. So so 418 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what the film showed or 419 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: what it looked but sometimes on TV it's too tight 420 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: so you can't see what happened. So what you had 421 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: it was three eyes over there and then amory was 422 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: like a yard behind them. Those three are supposed to 423 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: block and then he's supposed to get the ball and 424 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: he it was coming sideways and coming on and it 425 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: looked like he tried with his left arm to hit 426 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: it out of bounds and got hit right as that happened, 427 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: and then they were getting it. Now we had John 428 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: Johnson in the middle of the field over the kicker 429 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: so that he couldn't do the kick and run, you know, 430 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: ten yards. But then we also had demetric felt in 431 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: back deep and we had Anthony Schwartz at about the 432 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: like kind of deep, so we could have had two 433 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 1: more guys up there. And I guess you're worried. Okay, well, 434 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: what if they kick it over our heads and beat 435 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: us in a foot race? But I mean it seems tough. 436 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: That feels a lot harder. There's there's no high probability 437 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: on side kick. That's why it's such an improbable collapse 438 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: because no matter what they did from an onside kickstampoint, 439 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be really difficult to recover it, no matter 440 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: where are you line up, even if they kick it 441 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: to empty space and you had a couple extra guys 442 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: up and then you try to beat them down there 443 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: in a foot race, you should win that easily because 444 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: you have at least a ten to fifteen yard head start, 445 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: even if all of your guys are towards that line 446 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: of scrimmage where you know they're within ten yards of 447 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: where the football is. So they I think they were 448 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: set up well and the kick, who the punter actually 449 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: was the guy that kicked the onside for the jets. 450 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: He made an excellent helicopter kick that you couldn't tell 451 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: if it was gonna go ten yards and if you 452 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: should stay away or if it was gonna go ten 453 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: yards and you should try to knock it out of bounds. 454 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: And just like a little split second paused by Amari, 455 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: I think, causes him to be just a split second 456 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: late to be able to try to knock that football 457 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: at a bounds because that's all you have to do 458 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: in that situation. You get the ball, you can kneel 459 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: on it a few times and the Games over. Alright, 460 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: so make an extra point, you win. Don't blow a 461 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 1: coverage on a sixty six yard or you win. Recover 462 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: an onside kick, you win. How about stop him with 463 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: fifty three seconds? I mean it wasn't even that. They 464 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: went and scored in fifty three and I don't know 465 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: what it felt like for you guys in the stadium, 466 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: but as soon as they recovered the on side and 467 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: you're done, that's what I felt like. I think I 468 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: thought too. It was a hot day, which in September 469 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: and Cleveland you don't always get hot days, but it 470 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: was pretty hot. And for the defense in that situation, 471 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: the hardest thing is you're in two minute, which is 472 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: the most exhausting thing that you do, and as soon 473 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: as the other team recovers an onside, you have to 474 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: go back out there without any rest. So you're already 475 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: tired going into that situation. Your pass rush is gonna 476 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: be a lot slower. Your defensive backs are getting more 477 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: fatigued because they're out there the whole time. Meanwhile the 478 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: other team is rotating the receivers in their and so 479 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: your backs is already against the wall and now you're 480 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: exhausted and you're demoralized because of the situation and the 481 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: momentum going into that situation. From the beginning it was 482 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: like pitch and catch though even the last even with 483 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: all I mean just pointing all of the things. And 484 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: if any one of these things aren't are done. If 485 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: you do any one of these improbable things, you stop 486 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: any one of these improbable things, you win. You stop 487 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: none of them. So they score in no time. Right 488 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: down the field. Garrett Wilson goes right behind the coverage. 489 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: It's the easiest throw FLACCO can make. Uh, that's a touchdown. 490 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: They make their extra point. Now they're up one. Despite 491 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: all of that, Jacoby present struts, you know, scrambles and 492 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: gets US Daig near to midfield. We had a time 493 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: out with twelve seconds and the only thing you can't 494 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: do is throw a pick. If you round midfield, you 495 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: canna get a shot at a sixty five yard and 496 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: we've seen him kick him from there. At least you 497 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: have a shot in hell, and we throw a pick. 498 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: Look at all those things. Now I know people want 499 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: to come at Nick Chubb. Come on, that a lot. 500 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: I can't you go up two scores of under two minutes. 501 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,239 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, todown, what did you say? Two thousand two 502 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: straight games. It's over. It's over, it's I just I 503 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: wanted to go through all of the things. Every one 504 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: of them so improbable and they all happened. If you 505 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: just stop one of them, you win one. Yeah, and 506 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: you did not, and that's why say someone hurts. And 507 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: this is one that I hope we don't have to 508 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: look back on as being, if we end up a 509 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: game short of winning the division, a game short of 510 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: going to the playoffs, that we don't have to look 511 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: back at this game because you snatch defeat from the 512 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: jaws of victory. I mean it was you had won 513 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: this football game. You deserve to win it. Your offense 514 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: had played great and I think that you know you 515 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: mentioned special teams. We got beaten two of the three phases. Ultimately, 516 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: special teams was not a net positive for us. Clearly 517 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: it was a big negative. And then defensively, you know, 518 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: we had an opportunity at the end of the first 519 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: half to hold them to a field goal. You give 520 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: up a touchdown on third and ten from the ten 521 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: when you rush three and drop eight in the coverage 522 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: and there's an uncovered player, like, I'm not a mathematician anymore, 523 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: to school I did. There are five guys on the 524 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: offensive line who are not eligible to be in routes. 525 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: There's a quarterback WHO's not eligible to be in a route. 526 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: That leaves five people maximum to be in a route 527 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: and we had eight people in coverage and somehow one 528 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: of them was completely uncovered so that he literally threw 529 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: him a little flare pass and he walked into the 530 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: end zone untouched in a twenty yard field. How does 531 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 1: that happen? Like I know that word. Now you get 532 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: to go back and look at all the little things 533 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: that happened. How did we give up so many third downs? 534 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: They were the worst third down team in the NFL 535 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: after one week. Third and nine, we get him we'd 536 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: get him second and fifteen and they'd end up converting, 537 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: and that was what you want, to get him in 538 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: an obvious passing situation. And yet we could not get 539 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: off the field. And that's the thing that I think 540 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: is so frustrating is if you were to look at 541 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: our personnel, you say, what is this defense built to do? 542 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: It is built to just absolutely get after teams and 543 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: obvious passing situations. Great Pass rushers, Great Secondary. And it 544 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: didn't happen. I mean they had a chance for redemption 545 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: defensively right there. Make a play. Nobody made a play 546 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: on that last drive. Not One miles now. You got 547 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: held a couple of times. They didn't call find whatever, 548 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: but you still had a chance to stop them right 549 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: there and you did not. Like they needed a touchdown. 550 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't like they you had to stop one from 551 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: getting a field goal range. They needed to score, and 552 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: they did again. There was no resistance, none. That was 553 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: the easiest big Bong Bam touchdown. That was the easiest 554 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: drive could be. It was. Yeah, it's stupefying, it is, 555 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: and it's it's a tough spot because, Um, when we 556 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: look at the big picture here and you think about 557 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: first four games. Three and one is the number. Now 558 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: that's still a play. That's in that's in play the 559 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: rest of the division. Does you have a favor? I'm 560 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: not sure if you guys were at the game. You 561 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: were calling it. You were there being honored appropriately. The 562 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: Ravens were up to seven and a half, yeah, and lost. 563 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: They're up fourteen in the fourth quarter and lost. Um, 564 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh lost at home to the Patriots. The Cincinnati Bengals 565 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: are the first team in NFL history to play in 566 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and lose their first two games the 567 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: next year on the last play. I did not hear 568 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: that yet. That makes me slightly more warm and fuzzy 569 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: this morning. That all right now, I'm happy. I mean, 570 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta find some stuff here, but here's 571 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: the that's it's the what could have been. We could 572 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: be two and oh you controlling our destiny with an 573 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: F C north opponent coming down now. The good news 574 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 1: is it's on Thursday and the last time I can 575 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: remember US having a horrific loss, I want to say 576 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: it was week one of two thousand and eighteen. Now 577 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: we got blasted, or two thousand of fancy's first year 578 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: two thousands and we came right back on a Thursday 579 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: night against Cincinnati. I think in one yep that you're 580 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: able to at least flush it and come back. This 581 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: is different that one. You can say, okay, we got 582 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: whooped this one. We were the better football team again 583 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: and we are not playing mistake free. Here's the thing 584 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: that boggles my mind. Going back these blown coverages, we 585 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: have given up a sixty six yard touchdown, a seventy 586 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: five yard touchdown and a fifty yard completion down to 587 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: the one that's set up another touchdown on blown coverages, 588 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: where a quarterback in the national football league had to 589 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: throw a route on air three times in two weeks. 590 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: Like I don't I'm trying to think in my ten 591 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: years with this team where I've seen that happen. The reverse, 592 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: where they just forget to cover one of our guys 593 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: and we get like walk in touchdowns. This is an 594 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: NFL open, this is elementary school open. They're opened by 595 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: fifteen yards. Well, they're not being covered. There's nobody there. 596 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: There's nobody in the screen. Mean No, like they zoom 597 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: in on the guy catches. Is there any anyone like 598 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: the three of us could have scored on that play. 599 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: Slow as fast as the HOFF would like to say, 600 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: but we like that's insane. If we caught the ball 601 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: where Corey Davis did, we all could have scored. And 602 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: that is how does that happen? Yeah, he's fifteen yards 603 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: clear at least. It's crazy. So that happened. That's that's all. 604 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: That's the stuff that you have. Now, Pittsburgh, Thursday, and 605 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: the pressure cooker is a boiling right now and the 606 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: heat is hot and it's the one thing I hate 607 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: to see and I hate. I know. Look, there's an 608 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: obligation to to speak and but I think at some point, 609 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: and I'll be the first to admit I'm on cold 610 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: takes exposed this morning. Ye, yeah, not a good job 611 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: out of me. Listen away. Twitter's fault. You had over 612 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: two two hundred examples of why this was over, why 613 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: it's done. So this is the tweet I have on 614 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: the Nick Chubb touchdown. The best thing about being to 615 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: to an o s a Thursday Pittsburgh. Okay, now, I 616 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: own it. That's a tough one. As soon as, as 617 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: soon as it goes wrong. Within two minutes, I quote 618 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: to throw on tweet and I said I'm so, so so sorry, 619 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: just sick, but that's accountability. This team needs to be 620 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: accountable for. It's it's smart, tough, accountable. It's it's on 621 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: the brochure. Well, right now we're not being smart either. 622 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: No coverages are not so two of the three smart football. 623 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: Two of the three aren't happening. And one big thing 624 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: from coaches presser. From a newsy standpoint, no clowney this week. 625 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: And by the way, when he went out it disappeared. 626 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: This appeared. All right, we're talking about this accountability stuff. 627 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, because you're the only one 628 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: who's been in an NFL locker room. You are the 629 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: Hof you are a legend. Officially. What does it not 630 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: lay in the locker room to have honesty about what happened? 631 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: Does it? Would it turn a player off if Kevin 632 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: Stefanci sat there and said exactly what happened on that play? Why? 633 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: You're saying to the media right, because we have no 634 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: idea what the conversations are. You you would hope? I would, 635 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: I would almost go as far as guaranteeing that there's 636 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: some very serious conversations being happened. Happening in those meeting 637 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: rooms with coach Stefanski and Joe Woods and all the 638 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: people that are involved in that situation, not not in 639 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: a hey, you're the reason we lost standpoint, but an 640 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: accountability standpoint of Hey, guys, these are the things that 641 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: happened because we let them happen and that's why we lost. Like, 642 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: look at this cascade of events. We cannot allow this 643 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: to happen. Coaches should take some accountability where it is reasonable, 644 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: but at the same time the players are the one 645 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: that are on the field, that are executing the game 646 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: plan that they've been given in a situational my set 647 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: and that are, after two weeks of the season, showing 648 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: the same mistake over and over again. And so, for 649 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: to your question about should the coaches hold the players 650 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: more accountable to the media in the public, essentially, is 651 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: kind of Ye, you would think that that would be 652 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: the best way to approach it. Yeah, you would think, 653 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: because then everybody knows, hey, it's not the coach blaming 654 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: the player, but just explaining what happened. And as a player, 655 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: then I would probably be a little bit embarrassed if 656 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: I was the reason that you ended up losing a 657 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: game that you should have won. I think one of 658 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: the most Um. I actually think it's one of the 659 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: most effective things that you can do if you're in 660 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: public life, and our players are in public life. It's 661 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: it actually is pretty endearing if you just say I 662 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: blew it. Yes, it's very everybody makes mistakes. It's on me, 663 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: it won't happen again. I'll fix it, and people okay, 664 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: but when you say no, not me, I'm not blinking that, 665 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: then it doesn't end. It just keeps going in circles 666 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: and lets you a thousand questions about I thought we 667 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: were playing this coverage. We're actually playing this coverage on 668 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: it done. It's it is crazy, though, that we have 669 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: had three catastrophic blown coverages. I mean, wouldn't you say 670 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: that it is atypical to have a guy run that 671 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: free three times in a season? We just mentioned it 672 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: whens the last time. You remember the browns having the 673 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: good fortune of having one of our guys just running 674 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: Scott Free in the secondary where you can hit him 675 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: and there's nobody within twenty yards? It just doesn't happen right. 676 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: It's like a quarterback receiver warm up where you just 677 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: run goes. Yes, I mean there's a process in place 678 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: where you have layers of safety valves like, okay, if 679 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: this guy doesn't get the call, then you still have 680 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: somebody behind that can, you know, be the eraser in 681 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: that situation. You have, you know, veteran safeties that are seeing. 682 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: Maybe somebody didn't get the call, so I can make 683 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: up for it in this case and I'm gonna be 684 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: deeper than the deepest and we'll give up the short stuff, 685 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: but we're not going to give up the play that 686 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: loses the game for us. And here's the thing, and 687 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: it's it's funny, but when you play a lot of 688 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: cover three and cover four, what you're saying is we're 689 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: trying to limit the big plays. That's what that defense 690 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: that's what quarters is designed to do. To cover three 691 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: is supposed to do and you have rules. People say, 692 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: oh well, they're gonna cover three. Kid Run all the versts. Well, 693 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: you have rules. If everybody runs a vertical, they carry 694 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: those verticals out of the slots like this is this 695 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: is to be safe. That's what you are supposed to 696 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick time out. YOU LISTEN 697 00:36:51,000 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: TO CLEVELAND BROWNS DAILY IN CLEVELAND. CLEVELAND Browns daily on ESPN. 698 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: Cleveland Alright, guys, look, the Bath Authority gives you that 699 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 1: bathroom your dreams. They can transform your current bathroom situation 700 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: into a spot like situation in about a day. 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So on 714 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: the we're spending a lot of time on the coverage 715 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: because that of the mistakes and their six of them, 716 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: six things that are catastrophic that all went against the browns. 717 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: The one that's getting the most attention certainly by us, 718 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: because it seems like the one that was the most 719 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: no brainer of all of them was the blown coverage 720 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: in the communications. John Johnson was asked about the communication 721 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: issues post game. Here's what he had to say. I've 722 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: got to find a way to Bredada practice night literally 723 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: put it on tape. I guess we gotta do we 724 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: should all be if it's a hand sign, we should 725 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: all be making a sing. You should see all seven 726 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: guys in the back and making a sick. So there's 727 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: no way to you could say, Oh, I didn't get 728 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: the call. You know what I'm saying, like is Senda Anverssi. 729 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: So that is something I heard Tibi say on the 730 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: post game as we were going to dinner last night 731 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: for my wife's birthday and Um, I heard very nice 732 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: yeah where Mother Dragon's just the club. Um, that that 733 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: he said. That one thing that they did in Seattle 734 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: on that when he was playing in this defense, was 735 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: exactly what John Johnson just said, which was a hand signal, 736 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: in other words, I give you this, you give it 737 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: back to me, then we all know. We're doing the 738 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: same thing now. I don't know if that's happening or 739 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: not or whatever, but the fact that he said it 740 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: out loud gives me some pause that there's some credence 741 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: to it. There may be credence to it, but at 742 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: the end of the day you have a procedure in 743 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: place for what's going on and I think we're past 744 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: that though, like we have to like go route tomentary here. Yeah, 745 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: I guess it's one of those things where you say, 746 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: if you if I've got to treat you like right, 747 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: I got treat like a child. We're in cover three, three, AH, 748 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,959 Speaker 1: he knows. It also feels like that makes it pretty 749 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: easy for the offense. Yeah, but I'm sure they're not 750 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: just gonna be like one, two or three. I'm sure 751 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: they can code it a little bit more than that, 752 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 1: like the make a hand sign. All the guys are watching. 753 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: I'm not willing to accept that they don't already have 754 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: hand signals in place, like that's what you do on 755 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: the road when the environments loud, like on defense or 756 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: sorry for the defense, it would be at home, right. 757 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: So this being a home game, I would expect that 758 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: they would already have those hand signals built in. I 759 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: mean that's what we do on the offensive line when 760 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: we're playing on the road and really loud environments, like 761 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: I can't talk to my guy that I'm playing next 762 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: to you, I can't talk to the quarterback, you can't 763 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: talk to me. You have to use hand signals. We 764 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: used to use hand signals to direct our calls and protection. 765 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: Like going left, we'd kind of wave with our left hand. Obviously, 766 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: going right, waver with your right hand, pretty easy, just 767 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: so you know. Or like Hey, who's our dude? Like 768 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: point of your eyes, that's the guy we're going to 769 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: and then everybody knows you're on the same page. Like 770 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: just simple stuff like that is how you communicate in 771 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: loud environments and I'm not willing to accept that they 772 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: don't have that. That just doesn't make sense that now 773 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to come up with hand signals, because 774 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: that's what you do. Like that's part of kind of 775 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: the install of o t as is like hey, these 776 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: are our coverages, these are the hand signals when it 777 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: gets loud, when we're at home. Yeah, it's it's really 778 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: stupefying too from the standpoint of uh we mentioned that 779 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: three blown coverages, just blown coverages through the first two games. 780 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: When we go back to camp and you looked at 781 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: this defense, and you said, is this as good at 782 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: back seven as there is in the League? It's as 783 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: good a corner and safety grouping as you've seen in 784 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: the league and it talent wise it ought to be. 785 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: And beyond the blowns UH coverages, it's it's not happening 786 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: play to play either this group. There's it's not just 787 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: the blown coverages, but that, I mean Garrett Wilson put 788 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: a move on now. That kid's an elite route runner 789 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: and for sure, for sure, but they're greg got caught 790 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: in one of those. Uh. Denzel got caught in one 791 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: on the other side with one of those you mentioned, 792 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: to play at the end zone where we have nobody covered. 793 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 1: It looks like Denzel was confused on that one as well, 794 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: kind of based on what I've seen, but who knows. 795 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: But but all of this is it's it's not just 796 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: the blown coverage, is also in the in the normal 797 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: play of game, you just don't see that secondary playing 798 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: the way that we thought. So you did in Carolina. 799 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: I thought and and again you can't keep taking these 800 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: things off. But if you look at of the past 801 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: yards that were given up, even in this game with 802 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: flacco right, so he throws forty four passes, so to 803 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: pretend he throws forty three and take sixty six yards 804 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: off of his total. So he throws forty three times 805 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: for two and forty yards. so that's under six yards 806 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: an attempt like that's actually really good past defense. But 807 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: if I would have told you that a jets team 808 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: with Joe flacco at quarterback, take out the last one, charter, 809 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: was gonna Score Twenty Four, you would have said that 810 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: doesn't seem likely based on the defense we thought our 811 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: defense would be. But we we would, we would all say, 812 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: I think that we have to go to be successful 813 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: through the first eleven games. If you could score ish 814 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: you'd be that would do it, and so we're doing that. 815 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: Offensively we're not matching that. So it's blown for sure 816 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: that the blown coverages are three of the touchdowns, but 817 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: it's also just the this defense has not been what 818 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: I think anybody thought it would be through two games. 819 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: When you give a big plays, that's what happens. Right 820 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: that's how you die against bad teams. And the jets, 821 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're the worst team in the NFL, 822 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: but they're not a great team right now. They've got 823 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: talent just like a team in the NFL, and they're 824 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: gonna be able to keep it close. But when you're 825 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: talking about the best teams in the NFL, they're not 826 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: one of them. That's easy to say. And when you're 827 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: playing against bad teams, the only way you lose is 828 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: if you will allow huge play and if that's on 829 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: everybody's mind going into the game. On defense, that doesn't 830 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: mean you have to play tentative or you have to 831 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: always just give up and play deeper than the deepest 832 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: and give them the shallow stuff, but you need to 833 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 1: have the mindset of we can't allow big place. That's 834 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: the number one, most important thing we're gonna do, and 835 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: the leader on that defense, whoever it is, whether it's 836 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: from the linebacker position or the safety position, has to 837 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: take that ownership of understanding that if there is communication 838 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: issues that are happening on a play, if there's a 839 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: problem that's happening, how do I get into something safe 840 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: so that we don't lose the game on this play? When? When? 841 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: When I was here, uh, when Dukewal Jackson, who I 842 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: got to see this weekend for the legends induction, which 843 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 1: was great, he was the leader, he was the captain 844 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: of the defense and if he was watching and seeing 845 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,479 Speaker 1: any communication issues that were happening on any given play, 846 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: if there was a motion and they didn't know how 847 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: they were supposed to adjust, they're safe calls for them 848 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: to get into where he can, like when DA is here, 849 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: he would just kind of pump his hands up in 850 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: the air and that just meant to Tampa that man, 851 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: let's get back, let's get into something safe. We'll give 852 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: him a checkdown. But what I don't want to have 853 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: happen is where we get stuck in a situation where 854 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: we got half the guys in the secondary plan one 855 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: coverage and the other half playing the other coverage. So 856 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: I think finding who that ownership person is going to be, 857 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: whether it be John Johnson, whether it be Anthony Walker, like, 858 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: who's that guy that's going anthony, though, everybody is on 859 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: the same page in that situation. I'm watching that play 860 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: right now and the running back starts on FLACCO's left 861 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: hip and when he goes from his left hip and 862 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: he goes down to the tackle, taps on tackle, letting 863 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: him know I'm chip, because that's what they were doing, 864 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: which I thought was actually pretty interesting. They'd have a 865 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: back in the backfield. Now, in this case they didn't 866 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: go to miles this side because the tight end was 867 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: already on miles a side, but the back would come 868 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: down if they looked at like there's a guy in 869 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: the wide nine and they were going to miles side 870 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 1: a lot, and then would just come down, tap the tackle, 871 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: say I'm here, I'M gonna chip. First thing I'm gonna do. 872 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: And so they were waiting because we were moving miles 873 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 1: around to different places, right side, left side, and so 874 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: they were doing that. So he goes in motion and 875 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 1: comes down to the tackle. When he does that, Anthony Walker, 876 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of the defense, makes two hand signals 877 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: like this and turns around and looks at everybody and 878 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: does this. And so he's doing it twice, two different 879 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: hand signals like this, and you can see as soon 880 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: as he does it, everybody's looking at him. That's the 881 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: thing that's very interesting to me. It appears anyway. You 882 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: can't tell from this far away, but as soon as 883 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: he does that, J okay actually hops two steps out 884 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: to his left because he knows he's got the flat now. 885 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: So like he did make so you're saying the processes 886 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: in place, the hand signals are in place. Maybe everybody 887 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,919 Speaker 1: saw it. Giving him back, but maybe give him back, 888 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: but but that's did you see? This is a two 889 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: way street of community. You got to do it to 890 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: me before I can acknowledge whatever that looks like. But 891 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: so clearly, like that hierarchy of communication and the route 892 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: that it has to go through, Anthony Walker on any 893 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: given moment was in place and there was somebody that 894 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: didn't get it. Here's the thing that's even crazier to 895 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: me about this particular play as I watched it back now. 896 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: So Denzel, we heard him from his media ability, said 897 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: that he was playing, you know, the cloud flat. J 898 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: O K immediately goes out to the flat. It was 899 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: second and one, J okay. When the time that the 900 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: ball is thrown, that the down and distance was. It 901 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: was the thirty four. Denzel kind of carried Corey Davis 902 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: all the way to the fifty before he passed them on. 903 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: And then you had J ok who was actually was 904 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: in the flat. It was down at the forty. So 905 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: like even in his vision he would see that there 906 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: was a flat defender underneath, you know what I mean? 907 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: Like it's right in his line of sight back to 908 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, in fact, is Jeremiah was Gormo ten yards 909 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: in front of him, so it's kind of wild that 910 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: he made the decision to just stop running with him 911 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: fifteen yards down the field. It makes the only explanation 912 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: just complete brain fart where. You know, like when I 913 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: was a kid, I remember I was sitting at my 914 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: dinner table with my parents and I had my glass 915 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: of milk. I was like nine and for whatever reason 916 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: I just turned and I dumped it right in my 917 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: lap and it was like I blacked out and I 918 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: remember my mom looking at me going, Joseph, what are 919 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: you doing, and I instantly snapped out of it and 920 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I think I just short circuited for 921 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: like two seconds. I don't know what happened, and that's 922 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: my only explanation. Denzel just took the glass of milk 923 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: and dumped it right into his lap and then all 924 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden opened his eyes and realized, Oh crap, 925 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: like everything I saw, everything that was going into my 926 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: brain just short circuited for a three second, critical three 927 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: seconds in the game, and I mean how else do 928 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 1: you explain what happened? Everybody's given their hands sake. Most 929 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: everybody's looking at him. He's seeing J ok in the 930 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: flat and then he doesn't run with the deep middle, 931 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: the deep half. Here's the crazy thing too. You could 932 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: even afford one short circuit. You can't afford six. So 933 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: there was six. That had to happen. Six short circuits. 934 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: You hit a six team parlay. Every single one of 935 00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,320 Speaker 1: them astronomical. And you can survive one on a, you 936 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: can survive the blown coverage, one of the other five 937 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: things you do. And I'll give you another thing that 938 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 1: you can add to it, which was a pretty stupefying sequence. 939 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 1: We got down to I want to say they're thirty eight, 940 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: and then we had like negative three, negative four on 941 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 1: runs west and then a sack. Yeah, we lost fifteen 942 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: yards at three place. Yeah, there's a lot if you 943 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 1: you know, even if you don't get a first down there, 944 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 1: but you have a chance to kick a field goal there. 945 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 1: Everything that could did. I just it's crazy. It's a 946 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 1: lot of things. Oh B M, the official printer partner 947 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 1: your Cleveland Browns. Will you depend on your Brown's to win? 948 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: You can also depend on oh B M, because we 949 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: tackle any size office called two and six thousand or 950 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: visit Ohio business machines dot com. We will go around 951 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: the league and a short week, which I do think 952 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 1: is in our favor, we will get to that as well. 953 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: You listen to Cleveland Brown's daily on a fifty yesp 954 00:48:50,600 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. CLEVELAND BROWNS DAILY ON ESPN CLEVELAND. Well, there's 955 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: a new way to cheer on your Cleveland Browns with 956 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: the help of your favorite four legged companion. Barking backers, 957 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,479 Speaker 1: presented by milkbone, as the browns newest club for pet 958 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: parents worldwide. Sign up today at barking backers dot com. 959 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: Barking backers the fan club for dogs, Boz and the 960 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 1: Hof with you here second hour of the program. CLEVELAND 961 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: Browns daily. Um, I think we probably covered the bad news. 962 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: The good news? Um, yeah, the good news is that 963 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,800 Speaker 1: because of everything that else that happened in the division, 964 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: it's it's I still can't even act like that's good 965 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: news because you should be atop the division. And so 966 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 1: that's that's the road. We should be controlling our own destiny. Um, 967 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 1: it needs to be two games up on the steelers 968 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: and two games up on the bengals. Yeah, in a 969 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 1: full game on on Baltimore, by the way, collapsed as well. Um, 970 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: I cannot think of the last time Baltimore, at seven 971 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: and half, with their typical ability to run it, would 972 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: give up what they gave up and it it came 973 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: in droves. To talk about Lowis through six touchdowns yesterday. 974 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: Waddle and Um tyreek hill are the first teammates to 975 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 1: both have multiple touchdowns, both have ten receptions and both 976 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: have a hundred and fifty plus yards. That happened, Um, 977 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: and I saw a lot of stuff this warning about 978 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 1: this coming out party for TWA it certainly was that, 979 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: but it's a lot on Baltimore to the way that 980 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: that happened. Staying in the division, the Bengals, Um, as 981 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: I mentioned, lose on the last play for the second 982 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: consecutive week. No team who played in the Super Bowl 983 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: NFL history ever done that before. Um. But beyond that, 984 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: burrow was sacked six times in this game. So he 985 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 1: was sacked six times last week, he was sax six 986 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: times this week and they're having a tough time unlocking 987 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 1: all of that offensive talent. They were supposed to get 988 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 1: that offensive mind fixed. They didn't. Pittsburgh can't move. It can't. 989 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 1: They can't throw the ball down the field. They were 990 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: chanting for Kenny Pickett, Um my hunches. That will happen 991 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: sooner rather than later, not this week. If, if the 992 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: Browns handle their business, it would probably come out of 993 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: this week and them give them an extra the ten 994 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,399 Speaker 1: days to get ready. They're yeah, they are, they are. 995 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,879 Speaker 1: So despite everything, you're still in it. And the thing 996 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: that the straightest line to the postseason half is to 997 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 1: win the division. Win Your Division. That's it. That's it. 998 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: Three and one is still in play. So for we 999 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: should be at two and Oh, which makes getting the 1000 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: three and one easier for these first four, but it's 1001 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: still in play. And so now you've got to take 1002 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: care of business, obviously against the steelers, which is again 1003 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: this is one that is going to sting. Hopefully, much 1004 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: like those blown coverages in Carolina. It won't be costly, 1005 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: but right now it feels large. Friday morning, if we 1006 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: wake up and we've just beaten the steelers at home, 1007 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: how are you gonna feel? Ze Glorious, pure joy. Are 1008 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,919 Speaker 1: we gonna be back to pure joy? Are we gonna 1009 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: be thinking about what happened two weeks ago? Probably not 1010 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: at that moment, certainly later on in the season. You're 1011 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: gonna start thinking about it when you're doing the win 1012 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 1: lost total, of course, where you're stacking up in the division. 1013 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: But I think it's important for this team to be 1014 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,439 Speaker 1: able to put all of their energy and focus into 1015 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: getting this win and cleaning up the mistakes that are 1016 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: leading you down this path of us going holy cow, 1017 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: how are we sitting here after losing a game that 1018 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: you clearly outplayed your opponent dominated? You hope that this 1019 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: can be a big moment in the season where it's 1020 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: a come to Jesus moment and that you can get 1021 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: to Friday morning at two and one, after just beating 1022 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: the steelers and start going all right, we can bury 1023 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: that and we can look forward, because we're a much 1024 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 1: better team than we were two weeks ago. Around the 1025 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 1: A F C there's a lot of troubling stuff, and 1026 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean really the F C is doing us some 1027 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: favors a little bit here. I mean the colts, who 1028 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: we all thought would would win the A F C south. 1029 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: They are drilled in Jacksonville. Nothing that's right. They have 1030 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: not they're they're completely incompetent to start games wildly, so 1031 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: Um and and they dropped to oh one and one. Oddly, 1032 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: they haven't won in Jacksonville since fourteen. That's what we're 1033 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: saying on Friday. Remember. Yeah, no, I know, but for 1034 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: whatever reason. But Um, if you are that is really 1035 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: wild to me that indy has started the way they've started. 1036 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 1: I mentioned this fact that the Ravens gave up twenty 1037 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 1: eight in the fourth quarter to the dolphins. That's what 1038 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 1: Ohio State does to Toledo. That doesn't happen in the NFL. 1039 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: And they just said bus, same thing, just bus big 1040 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: picture wise, like some of this stuff that we're seeing. 1041 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 1: We're talking about our game with the blown coverages, the 1042 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:51,439 Speaker 1: ravens giving up eight. Is there, and I'm just spitballing here. 1043 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: Is there anything too a seventeen game season and and 1044 00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: not knowing really how to handle preseason football in terms 1045 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 1: of being ready out of the gates? I mean, I 1046 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 1: think about we think about our secondary. Our secondary didn't 1047 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 1: participate a lot in camp. That's just like is it 1048 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 1: sometimes just hey, we haven't played enough football. You know, 1049 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't. He seems to me that maybe almost two 1050 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 1: thirds of the teams in the League are treating the 1051 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 1: first couple games of the season with a little bit 1052 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,399 Speaker 1: more of a hey, you know what, we'll take less 1053 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 1: strips in the preseason hopefully be able to start the 1054 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: season healthy and we're okay kind of playing ourselves into 1055 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,919 Speaker 1: mid season form at the beginning of the season rather 1056 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: than when you had those four preseason games. It seemed 1057 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 1: like when teams were playing players more because there was 1058 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 1: only sixteen games, they put more emphasis on being ready 1059 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 1: in week one, and I'm not sure that's necessarily something 1060 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from any coaches. Oh yeah, by the way, 1061 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna work on some things in week one. In world, 1062 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 1: okay being a little bit rusty because we don't want 1063 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: to take the risks of playing preseason football, but by 1064 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,240 Speaker 1: the looks of it across the League, with what people 1065 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 1: are doing as far as not playing their starters in 1066 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: the preseason, you have to think that that's been the 1067 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 1: trade off that these teams are making and these first 1068 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: couple of weeks of the season, now that you are 1069 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 1: going to a seventeen game season, there's just nothing better 1070 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: than getting off to a hot start, though. I mean 1071 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,240 Speaker 1: it just kind of sets the tone for the whole season. 1072 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 1: I feel like. I just they're not seeing it, though. 1073 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,280 Speaker 1: Around the league. You go to the A F C West, 1074 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 1: even the Raiders are Oh and two there. That's brutal. 1075 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,359 Speaker 1: That is a brutal loss at home to that cardinals team, 1076 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 1: which is a mess. Um, the Broncos are lost, completely lost. 1077 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 1: I think their coaches Russell Wilson yesterday, and I know 1078 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: you guys were you got a lot going on. You're 1079 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 1: coming in from the stadium. All that. Russell Wilson was 1080 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: fourteen of thirty one M fourteen of thirty one to 1081 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 1: nineteen in that game. Javonte Williams averages like eight years 1082 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: of car won't give the ball. Won't give him the ball, 1083 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: won't let him be a work course. Um. So if you, 1084 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: as we kind of have this, talk a little bit 1085 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 1: about where the a F C is, where the A 1086 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 1: F C north is, Um, there are clearly three locks. Well, 1087 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: we'll see what buffalo does tonight. My hunches they'll be 1088 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 1: good to go. Buffalo, Kansas City and the chargers are 1089 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: the cream and ye, and then we'll find out this 1090 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 1: week if Miami is because I think they get buffalo 1091 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 1: this week. If memory serves I'm pretty sure Miami and 1092 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,360 Speaker 1: Buffalo play this week. But Miami is off to a 1093 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 1: nice start. They humiliate the Patriots in week one, they 1094 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 1: come from twenty one down to beat Baltimore on the 1095 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,919 Speaker 1: road in week two. So you have to start paying 1096 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of attention to them, um. But in 1097 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,720 Speaker 1: terms of this big picture, a f C really uneven 1098 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: across the entire conference, which only exacerbates the point of start, 1099 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 1: would have done for us. Yeah, and that's that's what 1100 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: hurts so much about it. But that's what hurts so 1101 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 1: much about it because you had a chance to really 1102 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 1: put yourself in a good position. Right now you're gonna have, 1103 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that after tonight. To your point, Miami is 1104 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 1: gonna be too and o the bills will be too an. Oh, 1105 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 1: that's it. There was. So we would have been one 1106 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: of four teams in the conference that we think is 1107 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: going to be a dog fight of a conference. We 1108 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: had a chance to really distance ourselves, and that's the 1109 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 1: hard part, is that we had a chance to be 1110 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: two up on the bengals and we got over this 1111 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: one up on the Ravens and then if you beat 1112 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 1: the steelers, you'd have been two up on two teams 1113 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: in your division coming out of that game, at worst 1114 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: and at best, if the Ravens, you know, would lose 1115 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: in week three. You would haven't. I don't even know them. 1116 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: To See what they play in week three. They play 1117 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 1: the Patriots, who are in New England. Anything can happen, 1118 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 1: I suppose, but it's just a it's a significantly blown opportunity. 1119 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 1: Plus it was the home opener. Plus he had all 1120 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: the feel good the hops going in. That crowd was electric. 1121 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 1: It was electric. There were so many times where I 1122 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: couldn't hear Jim even in and I'm wearing headphones because 1123 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 1: the crowd noise coming through our mics was so loud 1124 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 1: and it was such a it was a festival. It 1125 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 1: was a joyous celebration. When Nick Chubb scored, people are 1126 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: high five and people are leaving because when that last 1127 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 1: two minute cataclysm happened, there are a lot of people 1128 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 1: that didn't even see it. They probably got home and 1129 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: turned their TV on and maybe we're watching some replays 1130 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 1: from the NFL and go what, the browns lost. What 1131 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 1: do you what do you mean? The browns lost? Yeah, yeah, 1132 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 1: it was Um from a you were talking about. We 1133 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 1: have dogs. Now we do that. We're running out of 1134 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: the boys are big fans of those. Those guys look good. 1135 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 1: The swagger. Those things are cool with the red eyes 1136 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 1: and the smoke coming out. Yeah, listen, it was awesome. 1137 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 1: It was a great atmosphere, the presentation breaking. Yeah, yeah, 1138 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 1: that was the guitar. That was pretty sweet. The neck 1139 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,480 Speaker 1: of the guitar going out of his backpack. I'm like 1140 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: the Ninja Turtles, you know, he's got like his his 1141 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: big size or the staff. That's what Donna tell had off. 1142 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 1: Were you concerned it all about shrapnel? I wasn't until 1143 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 1: we did the practice run a week ago and they 1144 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: had gloves for me and these goggles, and I'm like, 1145 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: my hands are made of leather, like, let's be honest, 1146 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 1: they're just a pure callous. So I don't need gloves 1147 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 1: and they're like they were like we had j w 1148 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: Johnson do this and like one of the splinters came. 1149 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 1: It came from like the string and it like whipped 1150 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: back and hit him in the hand to the point 1151 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 1: where like he almost needed stitches in his hand. And 1152 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 1: so they were like you should probably just wear gloves. 1153 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 1: And my God, I'll make an exception this time and 1154 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: wear some gloves. And where the goggles, just in case 1155 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,479 Speaker 1: this thing explodes and there's shrapnel going every letter. Where 1156 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: did you at the last second it looked like goggles 1157 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 1: were off, and then did you remember at the last secondly? 1158 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: So that was one of the things. They were like, 1159 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: all right, remember you want to count three to one 1160 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: of the crowd and we're gonna try to put up 1161 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: on the video board get him counting down for you 1162 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 1: before you smash. And then they're like, make sure you 1163 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: put the goggles on. But when you go out there 1164 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,919 Speaker 1: and you're firing up the crowd, you kind of black 1165 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: out a little bit. I told Z this. I'm like, 1166 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: I want to watch the replay because I don't really 1167 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 1: remember exactly what happened because it was so emotional. You're 1168 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 1: like you're so fired up and all of a sudden 1169 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 1: I almost smashed the guitar without pulling those goggles down 1170 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 1: and right at the last second I remembered. But I 1171 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: kind of played it off like it was part of building. 1172 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Now it's business like throwing the goggles on. So we 1173 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 1: were able to execute without any major injuries, which I 1174 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 1: think was the thing that made my wife the most pleased, 1175 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 1: and she, by the way, wore the sneaks. She wore 1176 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,920 Speaker 1: the sneaks I wish I had the courage to where 1177 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: sneaks with my own numbers, on number on it. Humble 1178 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 1: the numbers, I should say, because the snakes. Let's look great. 1179 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: We're ready to order our parents as soon as they 1180 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 1: become available. Yeah, or just us? Yeah, all right. So 1181 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: that's that's where you are in the A F C north. 1182 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 1: Out of all of this you have three one and 1183 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 1: one football teams, and the Cincinnati Bengals, who played in 1184 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, are O and two. By the way, 1185 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: if there's nobody would have had this two games into 1186 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: the season. WHO's given up the most points in the 1187 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 1: A F C? Mr The browns. It's in five. Next closest, jets, 1188 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: fifty four. Can't happen, can't have the lines have given 1189 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: up like ninety. If you would have told me that, 1190 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: we would have scored and the bills probably will eclipse us. 1191 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 1: So let's we'll give the bills. So the dolphins have 1192 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: sixty two. The bills will say that they get over 1193 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: if they scored twenty five this week, they tie us. 1194 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 1: The Ravens are at sixty two. The chiefs or at 1195 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: seventy one. If you said that after two games we'd 1196 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: have the fourth most points in the A F C 1197 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: to like, not even a question. We're out scoring Joe 1198 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 1: Burrow by nineteen. But then there's the steelers. They have 1199 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: seven points, both of them just wild. What has happened 1200 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 1: at war in two games? That's what it looks like 1201 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 1: to on a short week. Is it helpful? We will 1202 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: get into that. Take a look ahead to Pittsburgh coming 1203 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 1: up next. Lets to Cleveland Brown's Dailey on a fifty 1204 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: ESPN CLEVELAND. CLEVELAND Browns daily on ESPN. CLEVELAND. 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You want to clean that up. 1222 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 1: You have to clean that up and to make sure 1223 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 1: that those things don't happen anymore like that is that 1224 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 1: we never are going to see a busted coverage and 1225 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: this is how we're going to fix it. And then, 1226 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 1: once you're able to go beyond that and hopefully put 1227 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 1: that to bed, you're focusing, because right now it is 1228 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: like a Wednesday in the week. You're already thinking about 1229 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 1: focusing and installing and going out and doing a walk 1230 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 1: through practice for the steelers on Thursday, because it is 1231 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 1: such a short tournament. Can I just go back something 1232 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 1: that you said right there, is we're gonna go in, 1233 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're not gonna have these anymore like we 1234 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: had them in week one, and I'm sure we said 1235 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 1: that we're not gonna do this again, and then availability 1236 01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 1: of is gonna Happen again. Well, did it? Did I 1237 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 1: just don't look at some point, do you have to start, 1238 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 1: even if people are quote unquote stars? Does there have 1239 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 1: to be playing time penalties, like, do you have to 1240 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: what do you do? Like how do you actually college roster? 1241 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just saying, like, how do you 1242 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 1: actually fix it? I mean, you can say it, but 1243 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 1: if you are pouring milk in your lap on the rag, 1244 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 1: like I'm never gonna do again, but you're enough. Oh man, 1245 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 1: milk on my shorts. How many shame on youse before 1246 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 1: it's a shame on me for putting you out there again. Well, right, 1247 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 1: and that's the thing. And it's not always the same 1248 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 1: dude in this no, no, no, it's unfortunately it's spread across, 1249 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 1: spread across bread, across a great, a great many dudes. 1250 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 1: But that's it's got to be so hard because you know, 1251 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 1: when you were a player and we went through and 1252 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 1: all the things that he did to prepare for each 1253 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: play and to prefer for each game, I don't just 1254 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 1: knowing you the way that that I do and that 1255 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,480 Speaker 1: the way that we do, I don't think you would 1256 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: ever have done something like this multiple times or you 1257 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 1: would have allowed it. It just I know that's the difference, though, 1258 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 1: the margin is this thin in this league, you're not 1259 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 1: allowed a milk spill. Yeah, that's right, when the margin 1260 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 1: is that thin and the margin is the difference in 1261 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: the game, because you can't allow those type of busts 1262 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 1: to happen. You have to build in fail safes that 1263 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: are just as serious as what happens if you don't 1264 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 1: have those and those bad things happen to you. Right. 1265 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 1: So I think of it like an airline pilot or 1266 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: maybe like a trauma surgeon. They have all these these 1267 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 1: steps that go together in a process to make sure 1268 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 1: that it can't happen right, because we're we're parlaying all 1269 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 1: these things to make sure that that very, very rare 1270 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,440 Speaker 1: thing doesn't happen, because it's easily fixable if you have 1271 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 1: a checklist every time you get to the line of scrimmage, 1272 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 1: and that's what I built for myself, was, in these situations, 1273 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,240 Speaker 1: how do I make sure that there's a one to three, 1274 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 1: four or five, six seven step process that I'm always 1275 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: going through that makes sure that even if steps one 1276 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: and two fail, I have step three, four or five 1277 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 1: six that are backing it up to make sure that, hey, 1278 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 1: maybe there was a miscommunication, but I saw the hand signal. 1279 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 1: They gave me the hand signal back. So now it's 1280 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 1: even disputable what we need to do in this situation. 1281 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: There's no way you can allow it to happen because 1282 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 1: one screw up in this situation it's like crashing the 1283 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: airplane and you can't allow the airplane to crash. So 1284 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 1: there's always multiple steps and layers of communication. That happened 1285 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,920 Speaker 1: so it doesn't happen. Is that something that is player driven? 1286 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 1: Is that individual driven, or is that something like coaches 1287 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 1: put processes in place? I think the coaches are gonna 1288 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 1: put process or in place. Like we saw it, we 1289 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 1: heard the communication is verbal and it's a hand signal 1290 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 1: and it's a two way street and maybe it needs 1291 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: to go beyond that. But I'm sure they already have 1292 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 1: those built in place and hopefully in the position groups. 1293 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 1: To your point about my own personal us, they're helping 1294 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 1: them build the personal process that goes through the mind 1295 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 1: of every player when they're lining up in those situations. 1296 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 1: As an offensive Lineman, I would imagine this did not 1297 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,440 Speaker 1: occur as much as what has happened kind of in 1298 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 1: the aftermath of this game, and what I mean by 1299 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 1: that is if an offensive line missive black. I don't 1300 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that people are ever like, you know, 1301 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 1: if the linement guy is supposed to go right and 1302 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 1: he goes left and you get a free runner and 1303 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 1: hit the quarterback section, nobody's saying like fire Bill Callahan, 1304 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And it feels to me 1305 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 1: like everybody's immediately on Joe Woods, and I understand they 1306 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 1: want to blame somebody, but sometimes it could be just 1307 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: as simple as somebody, because you can't fire a player. Well, 1308 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 1: you can't fire then you don't necessarily need to fire anybody. No, 1309 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 1: but it's you you have to you point the anger 1310 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 1: and somebody, anybody, for sure. But that's why it's happening. 1311 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 1: That's not right, but that's how I agree. It's not 1312 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 1: right and and I don't think that Joe Woods is 1313 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: responsible for busted coverages like that's on the guys, but 1314 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 1: it's not. You know, we've spent a lot of time. 1315 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 1: It's it's six other things too, no doubt you know 1316 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 1: what I mean, like the coverages have happened in back 1317 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,160 Speaker 1: to back games, but it's a lot that had to happen. 1318 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 1: And the special team stuff. Go back to the very 1319 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,960 Speaker 1: first segment of the show and we were talking about 1320 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 1: at the start of this season. If you'RE gonna get 1321 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 1: to five and six, six and five, whatever at the 1322 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,559 Speaker 1: time to Shaun Watson comes back, the defense had to 1323 01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 1: be extraordinary. We thought that it would be. The special 1324 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,800 Speaker 1: teams had to be extraordinary. We believe that they would be. 1325 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I get the started camp. We had you 1326 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 1: keen grant. That's a huge loss, by the way. It's felt. 1327 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 1: Ford has been felt in put the ball in the the 1328 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 1: ground again and I think we need a new punt returner. 1329 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 1: I mean I think we're at the point where we 1330 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 1: need and we also were kicking to Barrios and he 1331 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 1: was getting returned. Like I was stunned that those weren't 1332 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,919 Speaker 1: going out. I said that. I said that on the broadcast. 1333 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 1: For you. I'm like, what are we doing? Like we 1334 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,439 Speaker 1: had a sample of like three of them and the 1335 01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 1: one that we didn't kick to him they started the 1336 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 1: two that we did kicked him at that point they 1337 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,719 Speaker 1: were starting in the thirties. That I said I think okay, 1338 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 1: I've seen enough, guy. That's enough. FIRST SEAM ALL PRO 1339 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 1: LEA the League thirty point. Dont neate to it anymore 1340 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 1: to the bums. Don't kick to the good guys. So 1341 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 1: so those two things had to be checked off for 1342 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,920 Speaker 1: us to get to the point in week twelve that 1343 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 1: you want to be, and so far they haven't been 1344 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 1: to the level that we expected. And so when you 1345 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 1: have Pittsburgh coming in here and you say, well, boy, 1346 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,639 Speaker 1: this looks like the antidote for all that ails us, 1347 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,479 Speaker 1: they really struggle to push the ball down the field, 1348 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,760 Speaker 1: they really struggle offensively. Now you know jadeveon clown. He's 1349 01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,720 Speaker 1: a big, big deal. Same thing that we would have 1350 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 1: said about the jets. But the jets, even the jets 1351 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 1: are even. FLACCO is even more impressive down the field. 1352 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 1: But anybody, anybody, could have done it against air. The 1353 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 1: problem got the last two drugs exactly. So Um, the 1354 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 1: short week's got to help, though, I would think, and 1355 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 1: the steelers has to help, there's no doubt, because you 1356 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 1: don't have any options but to start focusing on the 1357 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 1: steelers because you're getting the installed today, like you're getting 1358 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 1: the game plan and you're going to walk through right 1359 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,280 Speaker 1: now against the Pittsburgh steelers this afternoon. I'll tell you what, 1360 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,759 Speaker 1: if this doesn't go well, Thursday I'll see you boys 1361 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:09,160 Speaker 1: next week. You're not gonna be a Friday. Noope, Kinda, 1362 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,600 Speaker 1: Kinda gotta work in some vacation time. You should be 1363 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,560 Speaker 1: golfing in this Hoodie. I mean this thing is spectacular. 1364 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:18,519 Speaker 1: It's very comfortable, breeze soft, Nice, fast it does and stretching. 1365 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: Look at that. Look at and I love doing that 1366 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:25,160 Speaker 1: with Fabrica that I'm in. He doesn't do that on 1367 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: this body. So we have a very, very short week 1368 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,680 Speaker 1: here with Pittsburgh in here on Thursday, and hopefully it 1369 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,719 Speaker 1: will be beneficial because there's a lot that ails. Elkin 1370 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 1: El serious lawyers, serious injuries. Called wine hundred alkohio for 1371 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,719 Speaker 1: a free case from you. Elkin is a proud partner 1372 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 1: of your Cleveland browns. A lot of stuff happened in 1373 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,640 Speaker 1: the League yesterday as well. We will get to that 1374 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 1: coming up next year. Listen to cleve the browns daily 1375 01:10:48,479 --> 01:11:14,680 Speaker 1: on eight FT ESPN CLEVELAND. Okay, Cleveland Brown's Daily SP N. 1376 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 1: Cleveland Ronky Wasser cycling, family owned and operated, where they 1377 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,720 Speaker 1: joined them as a customers and employee'll become part of 1378 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 1: the family. IS AT RUMKEY DOT COM to learn more 1379 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 1: around the league. Yesterday, Um boy, so this is the 1380 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 1: fourth time in six years in San Francisco where they 1381 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,600 Speaker 1: have lost their quarterback, with Kyle and uh in that operation, 1382 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: Trey Lance with a broken ankle Um, and so they 1383 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 1: kept Garoppolo and away we go. It's odd because when 1384 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 1: it when it happened, there's so many layers to this. 1385 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 1: So initially what you say is what I ran into 1386 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,559 Speaker 1: my head, is well, thank goodness they have Garoppolo from 1387 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,519 Speaker 1: their perspective, but also I think they might be better 1388 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: immediately with Garoppolo than they were, no doubt, because he 1389 01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 1: was really good. Um. The other thing about it, guys, 1390 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,800 Speaker 1: is like does it now put like Lances future in 1391 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,519 Speaker 1: question a little bit? He's played one season college football 1392 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 1: and then one game and then sat all of last 1393 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 1: year and then played this there's a lot of layers 1394 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,679 Speaker 1: on that one. It'll be interesting to see what happens 1395 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 1: if Garoppolo comes in and plays pretty well like he 1396 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,800 Speaker 1: had been playing and he stays health did. I think 1397 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: the biggest issue with Garoppolo in that organization is he's 1398 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 1: just had a hard time being consistently healthy, and so 1399 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 1: he's one of the better quarterbacks in the N if 1400 01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,679 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a top top, top ten, Tier 1401 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 1: One guy, but he's clearly good enough that he can 1402 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,800 Speaker 1: take him to the Super Bowl and outside of a 1403 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 1: ridiculous mistake in the Super Bowl, he's a super bowl champion. 1404 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 1: And so I think if he goes out there it 1405 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 1: stays healthy and plays pretty well, there's gonna be some 1406 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,360 Speaker 1: serious conversations in the offseason about, Hey, what can we 1407 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,640 Speaker 1: do with Trey Lance, or do we go back to 1408 01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,560 Speaker 1: him and try to give him another season as the 1409 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 1: starter and see how much he develops? It's wild and, 1410 01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 1: by the way, for them the best thing that could 1411 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 1: have ever happened was that they did nothing with Jimmy Garoppolo. 1412 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean, how fortunate are they? Seasons lost, if it's over, 1413 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 1: over and now I think there's a lot of guys 1414 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,360 Speaker 1: under truth sermon that locker room that feel better about 1415 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 1: their season today than they did two days ago. Based 1416 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,639 Speaker 1: on what I've seen in the A F C West 1417 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,720 Speaker 1: through two weeks, I put them at the top. They're 1418 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 1: right there with the rams. They're better to have a 1419 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,040 Speaker 1: lot of flaws and they have the big time flaws. 1420 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,840 Speaker 1: Um the how did the cardinals are no good? How 1421 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 1: did the rams allow the falcons to come back because 1422 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:32,960 Speaker 1: they were smoke see any of that game. So I 1423 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what happened. We had we 1424 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,680 Speaker 1: had the dinner thing. That was an afternoon game, so 1425 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,400 Speaker 1: I didn't see, Um, what happened on the close of 1426 01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,400 Speaker 1: that game. So I don't know. But here's here's the 1427 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,599 Speaker 1: thing about this. You know this, this injury here. Uh, 1428 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,840 Speaker 1: you talk about the improbability of Kyler and how bad, 1429 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,640 Speaker 1: how much they were down to the raiders and the 1430 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,559 Speaker 1: raiders give it all back at home and and they win. 1431 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,719 Speaker 1: Kyler had a two point conversion scramble. Did you guys 1432 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,920 Speaker 1: see this? I watched it. They said it was the 1433 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 1: longest two point conversion. I didn't see it was like backyard. 1434 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 1: He goes around and around and around and around and 1435 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:08,800 Speaker 1: around and around or not. Then he finally gets yeah, 1436 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:13,360 Speaker 1: you need some Benny Hill music. Yeah, so that happened 1437 01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 1: yesterday as well. Um, rogers did what Rogers was going 1438 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 1: to do, what you knew he would do, which was 1439 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 1: hammer the bears. They did Um, and then you've got 1440 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,840 Speaker 1: two good ones tonight. Um, I do think when when 1441 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 1: you think about the great teams right now in this league, 1442 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 1: it's a pretty short list Um, it was vitriol with 1443 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,599 Speaker 1: saints and Bucks. That was that was like, wasn't it? 1444 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 1: Was it the steelers and the Ravens? It felt like 1445 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:39,639 Speaker 1: that for a while. He used to fight like every 1446 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 1: time they played in every game was a three point game. 1447 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,360 Speaker 1: That's what bucks and Saints Okay. So walk me through 1448 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,600 Speaker 1: what happened, because I haven't seen it either, but I'm 1449 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 1: Mike Evans. Lattimore. So Brady, they throw a ball down 1450 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 1: the sideline. He wants a holding on it. Okay, he 1451 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 1: wants a holding call on he's going to yell. Brady 1452 01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: does he wants. He's Gon to yell at the official. Okay. 1453 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,640 Speaker 1: So as he's going to yell, marshawn lattimore walks by 1454 01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:09,280 Speaker 1: and goes like this, like get out of here. Okay, 1455 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:15,320 Speaker 1: Mike Evans, like a bullet, takes out lattimore from the sideline, 1456 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 1: tackles him, like smokes him, like they had been going 1457 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,720 Speaker 1: at each other the whole game. This is all on 1458 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 1: the sidelines. He gets him, then they all then it's 1459 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:26,599 Speaker 1: a melee at that point, and they had been going 1460 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,840 Speaker 1: at each other the whole game, like back and forth, 1461 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:33,120 Speaker 1: physically pushing everything. Smokes him and then it's a melee. 1462 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,240 Speaker 1: They throw Evans out. I'm not sure why they threw 1463 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,080 Speaker 1: lattimore out based on what he did to Brady. Now 1464 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 1: you're saying no, that's instigator. I mean they were on 1465 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,559 Speaker 1: the edge of the whole game, but that's that's the 1466 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,240 Speaker 1: way that it went down and I think Evans will 1467 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 1: probably suspended. I would think. They're saying that when you're 1468 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 1: doing something like that that's so far outside of what 1469 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 1: did you get a game already giving? Okay, he's already 1470 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 1: been suspended. So I hadn't seen that, but he had 1471 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:58,920 Speaker 1: come down a little bit harder on those guys when 1472 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 1: it's happening after the play's over and it's just a 1473 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,640 Speaker 1: malicious trying to take him out type thing. Yeah, so 1474 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,680 Speaker 1: he's already been he had to be that. That had 1475 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 1: to be it. It's interesting when I hear you describe it, 1476 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 1: because I didn't see it because it was a busy 1477 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,400 Speaker 1: day yesterday. Um, when he sits four net and then 1478 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Evans comes in, so first net gives the first four 1479 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 1: and then, oh my God, that's Great. The outcome is 1480 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:28,200 Speaker 1: probably the worst possible outcome for you as a Tampa 1481 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,640 Speaker 1: Bay buccaneer. If you're trying to protect Brady, because the 1482 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 1: last thing you want is a forty four year old 1483 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,479 Speaker 1: skinny now he's like twenty pounds less than he was, 1484 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 1: it seems like, last year, skinny quarterback at the bottom 1485 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,800 Speaker 1: of a pile in a melee when guys are throwing 1486 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,519 Speaker 1: fisticuffs and choking each other out. So in that case, 1487 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 1: maybe you should have just let it go and try 1488 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 1: to get after him on the next play, because in 1489 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,479 Speaker 1: the end you probably did more harm for your team, 1490 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 1: no doubt, then if you would have just tried to 1491 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 1: take it on in the next opportunity to get between 1492 01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:02,080 Speaker 1: the whistles. They play the packers this week without Evans, 1493 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,519 Speaker 1: without Evans, yeah, and Green Bay can run it now. 1494 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,240 Speaker 1: The bears were a little frisky, but with those two 1495 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 1: backs they could run it a little bit, I gotta 1496 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,000 Speaker 1: tell you. So I was able, I did see some 1497 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:18,760 Speaker 1: highlights of this game. Um, just help me understand how 1498 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,040 Speaker 1: you can throw eleven passes in an NFL game. This 1499 01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 1: is fields. He was seven of eleven for seventy yards 1500 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,639 Speaker 1: in an interception. They were down seven at the half, 1501 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 1: so how do you throw eleven passes? Well, they only 1502 01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,599 Speaker 1: had thirty eight plays, so if you think about the 1503 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: Green Bay packers ran it thirty eight times. They really 1504 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,479 Speaker 1: didn't have the ball. I mean they I don't know 1505 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,519 Speaker 1: what the time of possession is. I bailed on this 1506 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,920 Speaker 1: game to watch house of Dragon, so I'll be honest 1507 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 1: with you, wasn't. I wasn't waiting all more all day 1508 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,800 Speaker 1: for Sunday night. We didn't see. How was it last night? 1509 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was. I just feel like they have 1510 01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:00,920 Speaker 1: a whole series. That, the whole were season could have 1511 01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 1: been done in these first five episodes because we're now 1512 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 1: aging people, so those characters are gonna be gone. Happened? No, 1513 01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,040 Speaker 1: it will happen next week, but I mean that could 1514 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 1: have been the whole season. Kind of possession. Thirty, thirty, seven, 1515 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:16,160 Speaker 1: fifteen in that game. Oh my God. Yeah, I mean 1516 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 1: they were one of seven on third down. The bears were. 1517 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 1: The packers just ran it at will. You know, if 1518 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna run it that way, if they can run 1519 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:28,040 Speaker 1: it and those young those young receivers come along with 1520 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:32,000 Speaker 1: Jones and Dylan running it, that's that's gonna I mean 1521 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,759 Speaker 1: I feel good about them coming out of the NFC. 1522 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,320 Speaker 1: They look I know they they got drilled week one 1523 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,320 Speaker 1: and they got drilled one last week. People, people in Wisconsin, 1524 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,920 Speaker 1: are they like understanding that this is what happens? They're 1525 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 1: they're cool with the rhythm right now. They understand that 1526 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,759 Speaker 1: the packers are gonna get smoked week one. Everyone's gonna panic, 1527 01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 1: Rogers is gonna say relax, patience, whatever, and everyone's gonna 1528 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,800 Speaker 1: go okay, he got it, and then they're gonna come 1529 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,759 Speaker 1: back and going a roll. And you see the bears. 1530 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 1: You're just salivating in Wisconsin. The bears come to town 1531 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,720 Speaker 1: like that. Gimme, gimme. Yeah, they've owned them, just like 1532 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,559 Speaker 1: they have, Rogers told him. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's so. 1533 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,880 Speaker 1: There was some wild stuff that that happened yesterday in 1534 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,640 Speaker 1: the League. Um The touchdown, the first touchdown reception in 1535 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:16,760 Speaker 1: the cowboys bengals game was from Noah Brown, who was 1536 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,960 Speaker 1: a former player at Ohio state Um, who came out 1537 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,479 Speaker 1: early and nobody wanted him to. He caught the first touchdown. 1538 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,479 Speaker 1: Jabar Chase, not higgins, got one late. The crazy thing 1539 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,320 Speaker 1: there was it was much for the bengals. It was 1540 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 1: the same script as they did last week, where they 1541 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,479 Speaker 1: got down big early couldn't get going in the first 1542 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 1: half to save their lives and then when they needed 1543 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,720 Speaker 1: a score, burrow went and got him a score and 1544 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,559 Speaker 1: they went down the field. They had a big, long 1545 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 1: drive Um and they went down the field and scored. 1546 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,519 Speaker 1: He hit tee Higgins for the touchdown and you felt 1547 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 1: like well, okay, well, we'll see over time in a way, 1548 01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,519 Speaker 1: that we go. And then they caldn't. They couldn't stop 1549 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,559 Speaker 1: Cooper Rushi in the and the cowboys offense from scoring. 1550 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,519 Speaker 1: The most ridiculous stat line of yesterday by far, though 1551 01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:02,160 Speaker 1: it's not close, is Miami. That the one. So if 1552 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 1: you missed that game, and likely you did, because it 1553 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,160 Speaker 1: was on when ours was going on and the collapse 1554 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,920 Speaker 1: was while it was a longer collapse. It was equally 1555 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,800 Speaker 1: stunning that Baltimore lost this way, because Baltimore was pretty 1556 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,559 Speaker 1: Dang effishing in this game. Lamar Jackson was unbelievable in 1557 01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,599 Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, three eighteen and three pass twenty nine 1558 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,160 Speaker 1: nine runs for a hundred nineteen yards, including a seventy 1559 01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,800 Speaker 1: nine yard touchdown, and they lost. They lost, and in 1560 01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,439 Speaker 1: this game to it looked like he was playing like 1561 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:31,519 Speaker 1: Louisiana Monroe at at Alabama. He has six touchdowns. What 1562 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,639 Speaker 1: sine and he threw two picks as well. Yeah, Um 1563 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,080 Speaker 1: and I, like I said, they had two receivers with 1564 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,800 Speaker 1: over ten catches each, over a hundred and fifty yards 1565 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,960 Speaker 1: each and over two touchdowns each, with waddle and Tyreek Hill. 1566 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 1: And and they played each other this week. WADDLE got 1567 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,719 Speaker 1: nineteen targets. WADDLE and tyree hill both had more targets 1568 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:56,320 Speaker 1: in this game than the bears through passes. Yeah, true, 1569 01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,320 Speaker 1: it's insane. Yeah, they had as many catches as the 1570 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:04,679 Speaker 1: bears through paths, both of them. Team Right Mike Kasecki, 1571 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 1: also hit probably the worst gritty we've ever seen. God 1572 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,839 Speaker 1: bless him, but it was. It was not a good one. Um, 1573 01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:16,400 Speaker 1: Baltimore was really good offensively, though the defensive they were 1574 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:20,759 Speaker 1: good against the jets. I don't know, it was crazy. 1575 01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:22,639 Speaker 1: So as this was happening, this is in the corner 1576 01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,200 Speaker 1: of my eyes, I was watching us. I mean our 1577 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:26,720 Speaker 1: game had a lot of attention to it until the 1578 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,719 Speaker 1: Knick chop touchdown and then you're like, okay, we can relax, 1579 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:35,920 Speaker 1: not not. You mentioned earlier off about this, the way 1580 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,680 Speaker 1: that NFL teams are handling a seventeen game schedule, in 1581 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 1: the way they handled the preseason. If you were running 1582 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 1: an operation, how would you handle it? So I was 1583 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,920 Speaker 1: from the era that you played in the preseason and 1584 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,800 Speaker 1: that you use those reps and they were valuable to 1585 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,120 Speaker 1: be able to get on the same page, to get 1586 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,040 Speaker 1: reps under your belt to get in shape. Um, I'm 1587 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,280 Speaker 1: not saying that's the right way to do it, but 1588 01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,080 Speaker 1: if it was my team, that's probably how I would 1589 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,040 Speaker 1: do it. Um, splitting up the reps a little bit 1590 01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,720 Speaker 1: in the preseason, but put the guys out there. Like 1591 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, and maybe the statistical analysis would bear 1592 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 1: a different answer, but I don't really know if practicing 1593 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,880 Speaker 1: over playing a game exposes you to any less amount 1594 01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,120 Speaker 1: of risk. So, like, if you're doing the joint practices 1595 01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,479 Speaker 1: like the browns did versus the Eagles's going out there 1596 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,120 Speaker 1: for a day mean less risk chance than going out 1597 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 1: and playing him in the preseason game and playing a 1598 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 1: couple of quarters? I don't know. That's interesting. Why do we? 1599 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,280 Speaker 1: I wonder why we did. We mean a lot of teams, 1600 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,200 Speaker 1: clearly have you looked as said that they would rather 1601 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,960 Speaker 1: play in the joint practices then into the ground. There's 1602 01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,479 Speaker 1: some people on the ground rolling into legs and I 1603 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,479 Speaker 1: understand that you can set up your situations so they're 1604 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,439 Speaker 1: a little bit more controlled and you probably get a 1605 01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,800 Speaker 1: lot better work because you can decide like hey, if 1606 01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,839 Speaker 1: if we're playing thirty five plays and practice against the Eagles, 1607 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,160 Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna get thirty five situations that are 1608 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,360 Speaker 1: going to make us better, whereas if you play a 1609 01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 1: half in a game, you might only get five or 1610 01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,600 Speaker 1: six players that actually you felt like we're productive and 1611 01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,240 Speaker 1: you put your team at a significant risk of going 1612 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 1: out there and getting injured in a preseason game. But 1613 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not sure that there's any one 1614 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 1: right answer, and the great thing about being in media 1615 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 1: is whatever they do, if it doesn't work, you can 1616 01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,760 Speaker 1: say they should have done the opposite, because I don't 1617 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 1: know how John Harbaugh does it, but I'm pretty sure 1618 01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,920 Speaker 1: he plays his guys a bunch in the preseason, doesn't he? 1619 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,679 Speaker 1: You know? But I mean I think you're seeing teams 1620 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 1: on both sides of the spectrum, guys that play some 1621 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,479 Speaker 1: players in the preseason, guys that teams that don't play 1622 01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,720 Speaker 1: some guys in the preseason, and you run into some 1623 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,720 Speaker 1: of the same problems, I think. So it's not like 1624 01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,400 Speaker 1: it's clear what way is the right way to do it. 1625 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,519 Speaker 1: All Right, I can tell you this. Mike Toddlin said 1626 01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,599 Speaker 1: it after the last preseason game for the steelers when 1627 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,439 Speaker 1: what got dinged up on a couple of guys and 1628 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,559 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh media was all up in his grill in 1629 01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,720 Speaker 1: the postgame presser, and he said to box you have 1630 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,840 Speaker 1: to spar like you've got. You've got to go out 1631 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,759 Speaker 1: and do something. and Dan Campbell has that philosophy. Obviously 1632 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 1: in Detroit, where you know, maybe a little extreme. One 1633 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 1: and one, they put up thirty points best, a lot 1634 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,599 Speaker 1: of points the first time in a long time. Yeah, 1635 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,280 Speaker 1: they are. We actually have a lot still to get to. 1636 01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,799 Speaker 1: There is so much more to come, including two games 1637 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,880 Speaker 1: tonight as the NFL trots this out for the first time, 1638 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,160 Speaker 1: the staggered start on Monday night football. So we will 1639 01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,360 Speaker 1: get to that. Plus the most stupefying thing that I've 1640 01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,439 Speaker 1: ever seen in a home team due to an opposing 1641 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,439 Speaker 1: team before a game. Truly we'll get to that. Coming 1642 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:59,080 Speaker 1: up next Cleveland Brown. CLEVELAND BROWN'S DAILY ESPN Cleveland and 1643 01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:00,960 Speaker 1: catch the Brown's pre you show tonight at seven of 1644 01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,240 Speaker 1: the university hospitals clean the browns radio network James Hudson 1645 01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 1: to the voice of the Browns, Jim Donovan joined Ken 1646 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,200 Speaker 1: and Gerard on the show to night. Before we get 1647 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 1: to the scores, uh, this was Saturday night. Let's see, 1648 01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:18,040 Speaker 1: this is Saturday night in college station Texas. So Texas 1649 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,879 Speaker 1: A and M is playing Miami. This is the visiting 1650 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,120 Speaker 1: team sidelines. The horses are like crapping everywhere. I don't 1651 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:29,559 Speaker 1: know if the hat had seen this. That's the Miami sideline. 1652 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,720 Speaker 1: So like is that on purpose? I gave him a 1653 01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,840 Speaker 1: bunch of xlax before they walked out there. So it's 1654 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:41,240 Speaker 1: fifty horses mounted right these guys there there. I don't 1655 01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,040 Speaker 1: know what Texas A and M has. They must they 1656 01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:44,640 Speaker 1: have some sort of I think they have a lot 1657 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,320 Speaker 1: of RTC stuff. So they have a cord there and 1658 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,519 Speaker 1: so they're all on horseback. They line up on the 1659 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,400 Speaker 1: Miami sidelines. Fifty horses who all defecate all over the sideline. 1660 01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 1: Now they do shovel it out, but as someone who 1661 01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,519 Speaker 1: has shoveled a lot of that in his life, you 1662 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,440 Speaker 1: could shovel it, but this else stays and there's still residue. 1663 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,280 Speaker 1: For sure. They get a lot of residue in the 1664 01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,120 Speaker 1: bottom their cleats. You can clean all the stalls you want. 1665 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:15,439 Speaker 1: That stays sanitary. Yeah, some type of required bag, like 1666 01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:16,880 Speaker 1: you know you go to the circus and there's like 1667 01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 1: a bag back there. I'm not a Horse Guy, but 1668 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:22,320 Speaker 1: maybe Bo you can explain like like like a yeah, 1669 01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:27,120 Speaker 1: like a little puppy bag like diapers. Shouldn't wearing diapers. 1670 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,080 Speaker 1: You can allow your horses to poop on your opponents. 1671 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:35,320 Speaker 1: Disrespect and that much volume to disrespect to just parade 1672 01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,960 Speaker 1: them out there. There was fifty of them. It's crazy. 1673 01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,200 Speaker 1: All Right, uh, we've so this is new. We're the 1674 01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,280 Speaker 1: first time that anyone's done this. We have two Monday 1675 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,160 Speaker 1: night football games staggered. So typically in the old days 1676 01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,160 Speaker 1: one would go at six, one would go at nine, thirty, 1677 01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 1: two games and their completion. Instead, what ESPN is doing 1678 01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,720 Speaker 1: is they're gonna do two games. So they're gonna have 1679 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,559 Speaker 1: a game start at seven, love it, and then one 1680 01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:00,920 Speaker 1: at eight thirty ish, something like that. Stagger. And what 1681 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,800 Speaker 1: they're going to do is they're saying one of these 1682 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,439 Speaker 1: is on ESPN, ones on ABC. We're actually gonna show 1683 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,080 Speaker 1: both games at once on a couple of the of 1684 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,280 Speaker 1: the channels on ABC or ESPN and we're saying it 1685 01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,080 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter which one you watch because we have 1686 01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,000 Speaker 1: all of it. And so what they're gonna do is 1687 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna count all of it from a viewer standpoint 1688 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,040 Speaker 1: and there's no manning cast. No, no manning. I think, 1689 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:26,880 Speaker 1: too complicated with the split. Um, it's a heck of 1690 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,679 Speaker 1: an idea. I should just be worried about. It's gonna 1691 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,200 Speaker 1: be great for consumer. We used to be just worried 1692 01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,519 Speaker 1: about one game getting all the ratings. They're saying we'll 1693 01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,599 Speaker 1: take all the ratings and it doesn't matter where they are. 1694 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:42,599 Speaker 1: And eight thirty. So there you go. Two Good Games there. 1695 01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:46,320 Speaker 1: I would my guess is Aikman and Buck do the 1696 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,599 Speaker 1: the Philly game. Yeah, they're gonna be on the ABC. Yeah, yeah, 1697 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. And then the other one gonna be 1698 01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:58,360 Speaker 1: like I would think it's Levy or on the ESPN 1699 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,599 Speaker 1: game and then they will put the Aikman and buck 1700 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,720 Speaker 1: on the late game. That's my guess, is what they 1701 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 1: would do. Um, but they're too good games. I think 1702 01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,600 Speaker 1: one of them will be a good game. So we 1703 01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 1: want to do scores giving. Yeah, let's get around to it. UH, 1704 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,160 Speaker 1: first and foremost, Bou follow bills Mafia. They were doing 1705 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,800 Speaker 1: table slams on Saturday in preparations for money. Now it's 1706 01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,439 Speaker 1: like US line up to the munt yeah, we're we're 1707 01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,719 Speaker 1: still two days away. Kids like it's it's a marathon, 1708 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:28,680 Speaker 1: it's not a sprint. Buffalo. Uh. Maybe those people will 1709 01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,880 Speaker 1: be in the stands by kickoff. I'm not sure. They 1710 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 1: host Tennessee. Bills by a billion. I think Tennessee is 1711 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,400 Speaker 1: no good. I don't think they're good either. But the 1712 01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,000 Speaker 1: bills only play nickel, which is interesting in a matchup 1713 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,120 Speaker 1: with Derrick Henry, but still bill's Rammitt. I like titans. 1714 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,400 Speaker 1: I just feel like it's going to be a bounce 1715 01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,360 Speaker 1: back game for because these two teams were just so 1716 01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:52,840 Speaker 1: far in opposite directions in week one and a lot 1717 01:28:52,880 --> 01:29:00,080 Speaker 1: of times there's a reversion of the game. Late game, Minnesota, philly. 1718 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,400 Speaker 1: I love the Vikings, but I don't like them as 1719 01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:13,200 Speaker 1: much outdoors at night in Philly. Same, same, tricky, just 1720 01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 1: just just by a just by a beak. Yeah, what 1721 01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,640 Speaker 1: the Biak Rice goes? Why do you always say that? 1722 01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:25,559 Speaker 1: Because I said it's a crazy perfect understand. One day 1723 01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 1: you'll get it. Well, we live to see another day. 1724 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,519 Speaker 1: The next level will continue coming up next great to 1725 01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,759 Speaker 1: see the half as always, especially on his weekend. Uh. 1726 01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,080 Speaker 1: We appreciate you listening to Cleveland BROWNS DAILY ON A 1727 01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:37,200 Speaker 1: FIFTY ESPN CLEVELAND