1 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Between the Horns. 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: For this week two edition, I'm Cameron irwent alongside JV. 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Long and Maurice Jones Drew. 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: This, of course, is presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers. Guys, 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: we're gonna take a look back to Detroit as well 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: as looking ahead to the Arizona Cardinals. 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: But first, it's just so great to be sitting with you. Guys. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: You ready for this one? 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: Welcome to an earthquake this morning? 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 4: Right early? Did you ready to go? You didn't feel 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 4: it and I was flying in so I had no 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 4: idea what was going on. I just landed. Everything seemed 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 4: like it was in place. 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, good to be here, Good to see you. 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: I think a lot of our audience knows that Cameron 16 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: like designs her own clothing, right, this might be one 17 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: of my favorites. 18 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: I wish I could say this was on me, but 19 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: it's not, and we might. We might actually have a 20 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: new wardrobe showcase on game day. 21 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to that Week three against the Niners. 22 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: I like the Hello, I'm a I'm a Rams fan patch. 23 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: I need one of those officially a part of the 24 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: ramlely that's for sure. 25 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: How about MJD like selling everyone here on the U 26 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: YouTube channel, like go watch miked up with Kobe Turner. 27 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: He's sitting exactly like Kobe Turner did on the sideline 28 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: in this room. 29 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 4: Man, I can see why he says this is comfortable. 30 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: You and Bobby Brown and me. 31 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: There you go converted. That's right. Let's just hang out 32 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 4: and chill. Just cross your legs, relax, get the blood 33 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 4: flow going, so when we go back out there, we 34 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: can you know, get a good stop this on this Sunday. 35 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'm just grateful to actually get to see you 36 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: instead of your son on the timeline because his highlights 37 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: have been everywhere. 38 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, has been everywhere. I have to uh, it's funny. 39 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: I think I'm more like bigheaded than he is, because 40 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 4: like it's like they asked me first and then like 41 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: I have to review it, and then he gets add 42 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: on after something like oh, bro, you know you do good. 43 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: I look good. 44 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: It's all the same, all right, guys. 45 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: Well, let's take a look back to Detroit the twenty 46 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: to twenty six loss. But we saw seventeen straight points 47 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: unanswered from the Rams. It was so impressive, especially in 48 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: that second half. I just want some of your initial 49 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: thoughts based off of the performance you saw from them. 50 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: JB. 51 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: Man, I talked three hours for that one. I feel 52 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: like I haven't stopped since. So you two go first. 53 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: I've got a whole list of things I want you 54 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: to have first, crack at it and all bat clean offensively. 55 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: It felt like a breath of fresh air again right 56 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 4: to see Cooper Cup out there, Matthew Stafford really on 57 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: the same page. Obviously. When pookin Nakua goes down after 58 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: they kind of got him going, I was like, oh my, 59 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 4: they got him going. This is this This could get ugly, 60 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 4: you know. And I thought once he went down, to 61 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: see Cooper Cup really take on that role again, it 62 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: was awesome to see, especially come from last year, to 63 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: see them fight through all that adversity, the different guys 64 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 4: going out, other guys stepping in, and still find a 65 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: way to take the lead late in that game. It 66 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: was awesome. I just think that, you know, I obviously 67 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: wanted to run the ball a little bit more, but 68 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: Kyen ran well. He had a big run against Azelone, 69 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: who was like the n forced her at the time, 70 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: and he turned his head right and so it's like Okay, 71 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 4: it's there. All the stuff that we were thought that 72 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 4: would be there, it's there. It's just getting more consistent playoffs. 73 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: When the guys get healthy and get going, the Rams 74 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 4: are going to be a team to be reckoned with. 75 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 4: But it's you know, the number one availability is availability. 76 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 4: You gotta get guys available, so you can showcase that 77 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 4: all the time. But to go to that hostile environment 78 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 4: to compete and play the way they played put a 79 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: lot of people on notice in the NFL, for sure. 80 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: I mean the amount of adversity. 81 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: We can go through the list of injuries and we 82 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: will give you the injury update here shortly. But it 83 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: was quite the response from the Rams, especially in the 84 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: second half. 85 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: You want my checklist says what do we learn in defeat? 86 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: But look, I think we all feel the same way 87 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: that there were a lot of positives. But let me 88 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 3: preface it by saying what I think represents all of 89 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: our feelings, which is the shelf life of a moral 90 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: victory is no more than seven days. If you don't 91 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: take a moral victory and turn it into an actual 92 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: victory the next weekend, it's nothing but a disappointing loss. 93 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: And I know we're going to break out both the 94 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: defense and the quarterback in just a second. But I 95 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: have to start by saying, once again, it was obvious 96 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: there was only one quarterback in the building at Ford 97 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: Field capable of doing what Matthew Stafford did. So in 98 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: case there's any doubt, and I don't think there should be, 99 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: who got the better end of that deal. The Rams 100 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: still have the best quarterback in that trade, and he's 101 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: still very much in his prime. That's what I come 102 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: away thinking now, in no other particular order, I think 103 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: Bolimmer's a draft steal and has a future at center 104 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: right unbelievable, the future that's probably going to continue this 105 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 3: Sunday cam Curl Colby Parkinson for a franchise that doesn't 106 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 3: often participate in that first window of veteran free agency, 107 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: super savvy signings for position groups that need their presence. 108 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: You can roast me in the comments section for this one, 109 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: But fourth and four, second quarter, there's no such thing 110 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: as take the points, especially not with a rookie kicker. 111 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: I'm glad that Cardi got off to a nice start. 112 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: He had alread hit a forty one yarder, But to me, 113 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: that was a good decision by Sean McVay to go 114 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: for that one. Yeah, put it in the hands of 115 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: Matthew Staffords. As shame Cooper cut dropped it. 116 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 4: But that's a touchdown. That is nine out of ten 117 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 4: times that's a touchdown. I mean, catch the ball you 118 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 4: spin out as a touchdown. 119 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: And then regression of the mean is real. It's not fair, 120 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: but it's real. The Rams were one of the elite 121 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: offenses last regular season in red zone versions. First half 122 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: of this year, Matthew Stafford turns it over for the 123 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: first time in the red zone since twenty twenty two. Right, 124 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 3: last year, they're one of the healthiest teams in the league, 125 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: especially the healthiest offensive line. Next thing you know, they're 126 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: down three guys before halftime. Right, So that's just the 127 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: way this game goes. That's the way math works. I 128 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: don't like it, but that's the reality. And then last year, 129 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: I'll say, even though they had every right to feel 130 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: they could have won that game and earned the win, 131 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: there was a lack of situational mastery there at the end. 132 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,559 Speaker 3: There are a couple of physical mistakes, right, Like Kobe 133 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: Durant played a phenomenal game, but if he intercepts that ball, 134 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: at midfield, the Rams get it on the fifty. Instead 135 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: they punt the lines punt and the Rams get it 136 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: on the eleven. 137 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: That's a completely. 138 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: Different setup, no question. That third down conversion from Stafford 139 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: to DeMarcus Robinson like that is not for the faint 140 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: of heart. Do not try that at home. But once 141 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 3: you get that, that's a game you gotta win. You 142 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: go false start with two to thirty one. After that, 143 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: Kiren runs out of bounds and stops the clock for 144 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 3: the Lines with two twenty six, and then you go incomplete. 145 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 3: You punt it away with two twenty one above the 146 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: two minute warning, the line still holding two timeouts. Like 147 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 3: that's what decides wins and losses in this league, whether 148 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 3: you're good or or not. And the Rams, as well 149 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: as they played, did not do enough in those critical moments. 150 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 2: And you speak to the reality that we saw on offense, 151 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: and I think one of the other aspects you discussed 152 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: it looking to the defensive side of the ball. I 153 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: think that was one of the areas that probably encouraged 154 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: Rams fans the most, and especially encouraged me the most. 155 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: Quintin Lake team best ten tackles, But I also looked 156 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: to the linebacking corps because there were a lot of 157 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: question marks. Right, you think of Ernest Jones and the 158 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: trade that took place. What's your perception of how those 159 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: guys performed. 160 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: I mean they greted terribly, they did, But I didn't 161 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 3: understand that because in real time I thought they were firing. 162 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: I think the grades are kind of just black and white. 163 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: I think as an announcer, as a person that were 164 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: all around this team where they were thrown into. I 165 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: thought they played exceptionally well, right, I thought, you're putting 166 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: a position to play you guys normally don't play this 167 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 4: all the time. Had the green dot He's called the 168 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: plays rose bums like covering guys. They I thought they 169 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: played exceptionally well. I don't know necessarily when like you 170 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: grade out, maybe it's like, oh, he could have made 171 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: a tackle here or did that. But we talked about it, 172 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: like the big question mark was how is this defense 173 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: gonna look? Right? Those guys showed up both in the 174 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: running game early in the game, not not overtime, which 175 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: we'll get to it a little bit, but in the 176 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: past and key passing situations to hold Saint Brown to 177 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: what they held him to. Right took him away. Obviously 178 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: you had Jameson Williams had a bigger day, but it 179 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 4: still wasn't like he had he had that big touchdown 180 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: that was pretty much in maybe a reverse here or there. 181 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: But they did everything that you want to do. They 182 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: did enough to help you win that game. And that's 183 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 4: what you're supposed to do. When you're rebuilding your defense, 184 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: a new play caller and then you have Matthew Stafford 185 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 4: Cooper cupping all these other guys on the offense. Your 186 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 4: defense is supposed to keep you in the game and 187 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: allow you to win it. So to me, I thought 188 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: they played exceptionally. Well. There's a couple mishaps that you're 189 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: gonna get a double move that's gonna happen, right, you 190 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: got to tackle the guy in that situation, just can't 191 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 4: hit him's got to tackle him. But the other than that, 192 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: I thought the secondary did well. You talked about Curl. 193 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: He showed up a ton in the game, in the 194 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: run game, and I thought, to be honest, Jared Verse 195 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 4: like is everything that we thought more like, the reason 196 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: Florida State's as bad as they are now is because 197 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 4: we have their two best players on our tab I'm 198 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: I'm just being. 199 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: Honest, Like, wouldn't you say, like, I'm glad Jared Verse 200 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: is a ram because if he was on one of 201 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: the other thirty one senes, I don't think I would 202 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: like him very much, you know what I mean? 203 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 4: To get a sack, like the Detroit Lions are trying 204 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: to move down the field at the end of the half, 205 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 4: and he just beat Taylor Decker like that, Like it 206 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 4: was real quick sack. All Right, we're done. We don't 207 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 4: even want to get our quarterback hit again. We don't 208 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: want to try it right, And that's the kind of 209 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: play that you want to expect did you expect from 210 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 4: guys like Aaron Donald to do and things like that. 211 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's at that caliber, but to make 212 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 4: that play in that situation is huge. You talked about 213 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: situational arness. Yeah, that was a big play. 214 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 3: But it matters this week too, because left tackles probably 215 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: the strength of the Cardinals, which we'll get to that matchup. 216 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 3: He aligned over left tackle almost exclusively. That's gonna be 217 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: a big deal. What's the what's the shack meme? Where 218 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: he's like, I you apology. I was not familiar with 219 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: your game. Oh yeah, I feel like a lot of 220 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: people out there, like Chris Shula, I wowe you an apology. 221 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: I was not familiar with your game. First year defensive 222 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 3: coordinator and his staff, they met the moment to your point, 223 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: like holding a team like that to twenty points in regulation. 224 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: If that's the hurdle this Rams offense has to clear 225 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: week in and week out. I think they're gonna win 226 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: a lot of games. 227 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: And there's a name that you didn't even mention, and 228 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: it's his highest grade since week fifteen of twenty twenty two, 229 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: and that is John Johnson. He had a massive, massive game. 230 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: It was so impressive. He graded out I believe it 231 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: about a ninety one. It was phenomenal. 232 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: It's funny because he's kind of like that Teddy Bear 233 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: that when you have a bad day you want to 234 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: go home and get in the bed and something as 235 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: John Johnson, just like, hey, Rams defense, we need help, 236 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: John Johnson, come back over, let's go play safety. 237 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: But what it led you to do, because I think 238 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: you agree Corner is going to be a work in progress, 239 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: Like the Rams have not arrived anywhere close to the 240 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: final solution at corner. But when you have a John Johnson. 241 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: It frees up Quinton Lake to go play that slot 242 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 3: corner role, that star role. It helps out other areas 243 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: of your team, which was super important dealing with someone 244 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: like Amen rossinber. 245 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 4: And he's been in this system for how long like 246 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 4: he's been there, so he's a coach on the back end, right, 247 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 4: he knows where the holes are in the defense. That 248 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 4: the play he made on the interception, he knew that 249 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: I could rob this because we were locked up on 250 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: the back side. I can rob anything coming inside. And 251 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: he took a chance to Robert Well, let's remember his 252 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 4: rookie year. Was it against Seattle? We got caught when 253 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: we got caught, same situation he first start was his 254 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 4: first start, gets a pick, does a great job reading it, 255 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 4: jumps it, and that's what you want. You want a 256 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: guy that's not afraid to go out and try to 257 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 4: make plays to help get the ball back for your offense, 258 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 4: not for the defense. 259 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: We got to get back to this coaching quarter back, right, 260 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: take us there will. 261 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: You no kidding, So we'll get further into that in 262 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: terms of the matchup, but we also before we get 263 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: to the quarterback situation, we need to have a little 264 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: bit of a conversation some injuries, just to understand where 265 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: we're heading into week two. 266 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: A couple updates for you. 267 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: As we have placed three on injured reserve, Steve Avi, 268 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: La Noteboom and Puka Nakua. That's going to cause some 269 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: major differences on the offensive front. We look to the 270 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: offensive line for week two. Give me a couple names 271 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: JB to look for because Bolimmer they asked for it 272 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: on Twitter. They want more love for Baulimmer, who made 273 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: his first career start. Thoughts on him. 274 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: I honestly have no idea how it's going to look 275 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 3: this Sunday in Glendale, and I'm not saying it doesn't matter, 276 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 3: but I do think time on task is as important 277 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: as talent in a situation like this, Like give McVeigh, 278 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: give Lafloor, give Ryan Wendell three practices and four quarters 279 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: of the consistent five up front, and I think you're 280 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: going to get a lot better results. That's a lot 281 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: to ask for, I get it, But no matter who's 282 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: in those seats, continuity please, And what Sunday told me 283 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: is that you've got a unique coach in quarterback combination 284 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: that they can solve from just about everything else. 285 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I think I said it on air when 286 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: we were calling the game, is that those reps that 287 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: happened in the preseason, they're actually paying dividends now normally 288 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: it's like down the road a little bit. It's like 289 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: you got three full games of bow Limmer and a 290 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: bunch of other guys out there getting reps and playing 291 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 4: Logan brusts all these guys, they may have to step 292 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: in and like you said, with a week of practice, 293 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: a week of preparation, how can we do certain things? 294 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 4: What can we do to protect the quarterback, protect the 295 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 4: certain guys on the line, we'll be able to do. 296 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 4: I always say this, in any critical moment or critical time, 297 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 4: the Rams have always been in. They found a way 298 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 4: to go back to twenty eighteen. If you remember that 299 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen it was. Remember when two thousand was seventeen 300 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 4: eighteen they had the healthiest offensive line. Twenty nineteen everyone 301 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 4: got hurt, right, and then they went back to twenty 302 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: eighteen's playbook. Twenty was it twenty two? Same thing, right, 303 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 4: Go back to the playbook and start winning games. Because 304 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: that playbook is helpful if you watch the game, If 305 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 4: you watch it as it goes. They started going back 306 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: to their bootleg, their rollouts, all the little things that 307 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: we saw made the Rams so special. In twenty eighteen, 308 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 4: I expect to see a little bit more that more 309 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 4: with the running game, and a little bit more that 310 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 4: the quarterbacking out of the potbeat. 311 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: I'm laughing because playbook yes, play sheet no. Like if 312 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 3: you were to take a look at the play sheet 313 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: Sean McVay had on the sideline, I mean, he could 314 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: have ceremonially burned that thing and it wouldn't have mattered. 315 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: He could have walked out and he did. 316 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 3: He could have walked that over to Dan Campbell and said, hey, 317 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 3: take a look, this is what we were planning on. 318 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: None of it's gonna work the rest of the night, 319 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: so we're not gonna bother like what he and Matthew 320 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: Stafford did. I'm saying this out loud to remind myself 321 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: as much as anything, I think our audience knows. This 322 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: is not gonna last forever, right nine ten and McVeigh, 323 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: this is not gonna last forever. The supercomputers that they 324 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: have between their ears. That was a really, really unique 325 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: second half and it was amazing, and it's not sustainable. 326 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: Like Matthew Stafford cannot lead the league and attempts, Cooper 327 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: Cup cannot lead the league in targets and catches. Otherwise, 328 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: it may be great for your fantasy team, it's not 329 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: gonna be great for the twenty four rams, right, But 330 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: I want to talk about what you said, which is 331 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 3: like you would have liked to see them run the 332 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: ball a little bit more, right, And I saw a 333 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 3: lot of that too. I had a lot of inbounds 334 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: like that. But like take us inside that huddle, given 335 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: what they were dealing with, there was no world in 336 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 3: which they were running the ball right. Like, you need rehearsals, 337 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 3: you need reps, you need to know who the on 338 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: your left shoulder is. 339 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 4: Well, I think what I meant by running the ball 340 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: is like there are certain situations maybe first down, maybe 341 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 4: third and short, maybe second down. Just there was a 342 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: drawplay that we ran that we were like third and twenty, right, 343 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: that's what that's what we need to do. Just to 344 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: help your tackle go forward a little bit, right, You're 345 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: angel Carrey was he was going backwards too much and 346 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: you had hutcheson over there. Let him go forward just 347 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: a little. 348 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: Use the lines aggression against them that's what the dalais 349 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: and the draws roll, and that's. 350 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: What That's what I was looking for, just to help 351 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 4: your line so that when you do drop back, they 352 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: have to respect like maybe this may be a draw 353 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 4: going forward, so you don't have to pin your ears 354 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: back and just go to protect me. 355 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: I was looking and we were talking about this as 356 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: the game was going on, like, look at how they 357 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: found a way to get off the drive on first down, right, 358 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: Like there were more speedos out there in Detroit than 359 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: the Summer Olympics people. Like they were running speed out 360 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: to the sideline and Stafford was throwing it where only 361 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: Cooper Cup. 362 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: Could get it. 363 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, otherwise it was the ball boy that was it, 364 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: and they were getting it into first or second and 365 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: five second and six whatever it was. That was critically important. 366 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: Now again, if you can regroup this week at practice. 367 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: I don't know the fight that they're going to try 368 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: it out there against the Cardinals, but I do know 369 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: the Cardinals are not the lines defensively. And I also 370 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: know that this identity of the Rams that we've come 371 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: to know and love, like their downhill rushing attack, the 372 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: genesis of all that two games against the Cardinals last year. 373 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: I was about to say they the one team they 374 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: know how to play against is Arizona. 375 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: Week six, second half against the Cardinals, they come out, 376 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: they hand it off eight times and they realize they've 377 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: got something now. Unfortunately Kiren got hurt in that game, 378 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: so did Ronnie Rivers. But as soon as he comes back, 379 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: where do they land Glendelle, Arizona, what do they do? 380 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 4: Well? It goes back. It always goes back to uh 381 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: CJ Anderson, first game off the couch. Hey come out here, 382 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: play running back against Arizona Cardinals. Here goes twenty carries 383 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: like we're running the ball. And so I don't as 384 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: much as I don't like to call it a get 385 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 4: right game, but you have had a lot of success 386 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 4: against Arizona offensively right. So to me, it's if it's 387 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 4: going to be any team they were gonna be in 388 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: this situation with the first game, I'd love it for 389 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: it to be Arizona. 390 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: Is their cause for concern just in terms of facing Arizona, 391 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: there's a lot of conversation about their health and how 392 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: good Kyler's looking, his ability to run. You talked about 393 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: Jared verse Brado Fisk obviously stepping up and needing that. 394 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: Pass rush specifically. 395 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: I mean, there's probably nobody more happy to see Aaron 396 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: Donald retired than Kyler Murray at this point. So where 397 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: do they go in terms of the defense and is 398 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: their cause for concern? 399 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 4: I feel like you have the Kyler rules. We know 400 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 4: what the Kyler rules are. It's keep them in the pocket, 401 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 4: make him throw through the trees. That's what Jack Derry's 402 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: always tell us when we were playing shorter quarterbacks right 403 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: Drew Brees, specifically Drew Brees, like, make him throw through 404 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: the guy's hands. Was it was raheem The one time 405 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: that they lost to Arizona at SOFI, they were doing 406 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: all these stunts and blitzes and Kyler gets out of 407 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: the pocket like no, no, no, that's what he wants 408 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: to do. Rush the edge, keep him in the post, 409 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 4: rushed to him, not or not past him, and then 410 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: collapse a pocket on him and make him throw it. 411 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: You know, the coverage that he struggles with. Continue to 412 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: do that. It's not that's what you have to do. 413 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 4: Like certain there's certain teams when you play, and there's 414 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: certain coordinators and certain players. You always do what you 415 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 4: have success success against. Right like if it's a I 416 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 4: don't know, let's say if it's if it's since Sarasenal 417 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: forty nine ers brock perty right, we make him roll 418 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: the opposite way. You don't want him rolling to us right, 419 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: you want him rolling left. That's only that's he's great 420 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: in the pocket, he's great rolling right. When he rolls left, 421 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: it's not as good right. And so everyone has kind 422 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 4: of a deal Kyler is he's great rolling out of 423 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 4: the pocket. Either way, we got to keep him in 424 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 4: the pocket because now he has he can't he can't 425 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 4: run to use his superpower. So if you can keep 426 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 4: him in the pocket, it changes everything. 427 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: Maurice has been hearing me tout the Cardinals in their 428 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 3: improvement for like six months now. He's probably sick of it. 429 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: And I would love to be wrong about that. I 430 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: would love to believe at the end of this year 431 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: that they're not as improved as I think they could 432 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: have been. But I saw him go out and take 433 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: a two touchdown lead and scoring their first three drives 434 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: Orchard Park last week, Like, that's what I expected the 435 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: Cardinals to look like. What I wasn't expecting is them 436 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: to line up in three tight end sets and linked 437 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: in that offensive line. James Connor is a problem. He 438 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: is third in the league in rushing since the start 439 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: of last season. He's right up there with McCaffrey and 440 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: with kyn Marvin. Harrison Junior had a terrible debut and 441 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 3: I think that's going to be a huge focus this week, 442 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 3: Like do they spam him? 443 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, gotta keep it happy. 444 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 3: Okay, so that's something to watch for sure. But you're 445 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 3: right what you said is true, Like Aaron Donald's not 446 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: walking through that door. Thankfully for the Rams. I think 447 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: they got a bunch of young pass rushers ready to 448 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: kick that door down and treat Kyler the same way. 449 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: But I'm not. 450 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: Naive to the fact that Kyler's played and VP caliber 451 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: football for long stretches of time and then twice a 452 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: year Aaron Donald walks into his life and it changes. 453 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 3: But when he's been out there, they've been good. 454 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 455 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: I think the biggest question mark for me heading into 456 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: this next matchup is actually the run defense, just based 457 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: off of what you saw from James Connor this past 458 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: week and the Bills they utilized him heavily, and considering 459 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: what we saw the Rams do with Detroit. I mean 460 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: it was it was tough, especially considering that overtime drive. 461 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 4: But it's a different it's a different run scheme though, Okay, 462 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 4: and that that's the only thing that saves the Rams. 463 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: It's gonna be more shotgun run if it is under center, 464 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 4: it's gonna be more duo, where Detroit is like gap 465 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 4: scheme where they're gonna block down pool guys, kick guys out, 466 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: be more, be more physical, if that makes sense, Like 467 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 4: they're trying to punch holes through you, where I think 468 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: the Cardinals are more of a kind of a position 469 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 4: blocking team, like, hey, I got my guy position, you 470 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 4: got to get around me. Does that make sense? Like 471 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: it's just it's a different type of run scheme that 472 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: you're gonna see. 473 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: I hear you, man, I was just about to say, 474 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: except the quarterback is a completely different dynamic. You can't 475 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: go more polar opposite than Jared Goff to Kyler Murray, except, 476 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 3: of course, Jared Goff has that scramble which kind of 477 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 3: breaks your game. Of course on Sunday Night football. I'm 478 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: still not over it. Sorry, as you can tell. Yeah, 479 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: but you got to watch Kyler extended drives, like when 480 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: when he can turn you know, third and plus to 481 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 3: you know first, and then the drive extended. That's where 482 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: you get in trouble. That's where you do get some 483 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: of those fit Tea moments. 484 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: All right, I want to bring us up a notch 485 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: and actually go back towards the offensive side of the ball, 486 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 2: because I had a thought this week, as obviously the 487 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: news of Pookinakoupa's injury, the reaggravation to his knee, it 488 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: was everywhere, and I just envisioned his relationship with Cooper 489 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: Cup last season and what Cooper Cup did in that 490 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 2: same position on the sidelines, and I feel like the 491 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: way has been modeled for Poka Nakua in this In 492 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: this position, it's not an opportunity we ever want to 493 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: see him in, but especially with someone like whether it's 494 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: Tyler Johnson or Whittington in the mix, I mean, he 495 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: has an opportunity to still have a massive impact on 496 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: that room and the way has been modeled by him. 497 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, well said I like that. 498 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I think his biggest impact that was 499 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: getting as healthy as possible, absolutely right, just because the 500 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 4: way they were before he heard his knee, the way 501 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: they were like throwing the Cooper Cup and then you 502 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: saw him come open and he started catching the ball. 503 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: It was like, who do you stop right now? Granted 504 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 4: the other guys came came in and did their partner awesome. 505 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 4: Tyler Johnson with the long run wanted him to score 506 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 4: or get to the house on those type of plays, right, 507 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: But for Pookin nakoul it'z is getting as healthy as possible. Again, 508 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 4: it's it's a blessing in disguise. I feel like because 509 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: he's being him, being banged up is going to open 510 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: up the door and opportunities for other guys to get better. 511 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: And we all know this is a marathon, right, This 512 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 4: is not a sprint. It's a war of attrition. So 513 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: down the line, you're gonna have some of these guys 514 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 4: are gonna have to make plays. They're just gonna get 515 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 4: those valuable reps. Now, why Pooka is getting healthy and 516 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 4: once he gets healthy, awesome. The key is where you're 517 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 4: talking about the mental part or Cooper Cup is gonna 518 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: handle a lot of that though. He's gonna be He's 519 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: gonna be more of a coach, player, player, coach, or 520 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 4: however you want to call it, because he's gonna have 521 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 4: to get those guys on the same page as Matthew 522 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: Stafford and what he's used to seeing as well, similar 523 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 4: what he did to Pooka and Nakul last year. 524 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: I was thinking this week about how when Blake Korn 525 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: was drafted, we all had the same thought, like, oh, 526 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 3: there's a Karen Williams clone. Right, They're trying to make 527 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 3: sure that if anything happened to Kiren, they don't have 528 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: to change a thing. The first month of the season 529 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: or more could actually be about what if Jordan Whittington 530 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: was that player for Pooka and Nakool. I think they've 531 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 3: got other guys who can do it in different combinations. 532 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: Tyler's one I think two two at well gets right 533 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: in the mix this week. But in terms of making 534 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: your run and pass maryor together making pre snap run 535 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: look like pass passalcluk run, you got to have unique 536 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: body types to do that, and that's what makes Pukinakua 537 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: and Cooper Cup so great. And I think Whittington, from 538 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: what we saw not just in those preseason games but 539 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: throughout the offseason program, like the fact that he got 540 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: a taste Week one in Detroit, I think bodes really 541 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: well for his opportunity in this window of time. 542 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, almost more so a tease, right for Whittington having 543 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: that touchdown called back, That was a tough one for him, 544 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But you mentioned Blake Korum and 545 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: it was funny online you asked what people wanted us 546 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: to talk about on the show, and the name Blake 547 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: Korham came up several times, and you said you weren't 548 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: surprised to not necessarily see him out there for. 549 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 3: A couple of reasons. One because again I work with 550 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: the president and the CEO of Run the Ball, Inc. Right, 551 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: so I deal with this every week and I love it. 552 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: But that was not a game where you're going to 553 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: feature your running backs. It just wasn't. And also, like 554 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: hostile road environment, silent count, you're shuffling chairs on your 555 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 3: offensive line, Like getting to the third spot on your 556 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 3: running back depth chart, I don't think was the priority. 557 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: I think it speaks to Ronnie Rivers the trust that 558 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: he's earned. It's always been hard for a first year 559 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 3: back to earn trust in reps in this offense, whether 560 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 3: it was Todd Gurley or now Kyraen Williams. Kind of 561 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: being a three down every down back. 562 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it just takes time. Right, When you 563 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 4: put a rookie out there, you want him to be successful, right, 564 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 4: You want to put him in the best situation to 565 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: be successful for a receiver, completely different than this for 566 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 4: a running back. Right, the different protections, the calls, it's loud. 567 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 4: If you make one mistake and your quarterback gets hit, 568 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: that's an issue in the passing game. And I think 569 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 4: when you look at it, as good as a runner 570 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 4: he is, and as smart as Blake korm is, you 571 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 4: just don't want to put him in a situation to fail. Right, 572 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 4: And I get it. He went back home. The Michigan 573 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: and the Michigan fans are there and they wanted to say, 574 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 4: I get all that. I understand that, but I want 575 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: to be able to put you in a position to 576 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 4: play where I know that you have more chance to 577 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: be successful then fail. I remember my rookie year. It 578 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 4: was the same thing with me. I was so upset 579 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 4: I forgot played the Cowboys Week one. I remember this, 580 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 4: like with Jesse. We played the Cowboys Week one, played 581 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 4: them at home, Terrell Owens. They had the safety from Oklahoma, 582 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 4: Roy Williams. They had all these big name guys de 583 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: Marcus where I go out there, they make a check 584 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 4: and I have to block the Marcus where and I 585 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: give up a sack. I was like, I'm like, first 586 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 4: of all, they're playing this guy ten million dollars, Why 587 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 4: am I blocking them? But it put me in a 588 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 4: situation where like that was my first play and it 589 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: was a failure, right, and the coach You're like, bro, 590 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 4: get out, don't worry about it. We'll we'll figure it out. 591 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 4: And later in the game, I got a chance to 592 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: play redeem myself. But you don't want that first player 593 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: in the NFL to be a negative because it weighs 594 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 4: on you a little bit. It starts you start to 595 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: question yourself a little bit. 596 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 3: His time's coming to have great moments this year. Yeah, 597 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: I just don't think you need to rush it. So 598 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: long as you're top back, maybe one of the best 599 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 3: backs in the league is right there and able to 600 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: take those snaps. 601 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: All right, guys, I'm gonna throw one out you here. 602 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 2: You cannot answer Matthew Stafford or Cooper Cup But who 603 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: is one to watch for the Ramley against the Cardinals 604 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 2: this coming week? 605 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: Go ahead, I don't want to steal it. 606 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: Go ahead, I would probably say one of the edge rushers. 607 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: I think Jared versus the obvious answer. I think his 608 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: matchup against Paris Johnson is gonna be one of the 609 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 3: best ones to watch in this game. But Jonah Williams, 610 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 3: the right tackle for the Cardinals, got hurt in Week 611 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 3: one at Buffalo, so he's gonna be replaced, probably by 612 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: Kelvin Beacham, who did not play as well. Stepping in. 613 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 3: We'll see what he does with the full week of preparation. 614 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: Agent zero, go have yourself a day for sure. 615 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: I think. 616 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 3: I think edge tackle both directions, both directions is probably 617 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: the matchup to watch in this game. 618 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 4: To me, it's gonna be this is all about. This 619 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 4: game is all about Kyroen. I think the last time 620 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 4: we went to Arizona and played he had three touchdowns, right. 621 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, touchdowns last season to receiving such a touchdown, yeah, 622 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 3: over two hundred from screamage, yeah, So to me, it's 623 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 3: it's about Kyen. 624 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: It's a it's a Kiren type of game. I know 625 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 4: Matthew stavacover a couple, they're gonna have their day, But 626 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 4: to me, it's about Kyron going out and taking over 627 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 4: this game. Big runs that he had there, the Rams 628 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 4: will always run well there. He has to make sure 629 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 4: that they have to put eight in the box to 630 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 4: open up the passing game when the play action pass. 631 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 4: So if he has success, especially with the different old line, 632 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 4: it's like I said, it's always easier for oldlignment to 633 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: go forward than it is a kickset and go against 634 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 4: the guy who's probably more athletic than you, or as 635 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 4: you're going backwards. It's never the best thing. So if 636 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 4: you can get a good running game going, the play 637 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 4: action passould open. 638 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: You know what I thought you were gonna say every 639 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: time we go to Arizona. 640 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: Every time? Oh you know, I'm not saving it for 641 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 4: don't don't don't. 642 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: I'm saying it's coming out on the broadcast, you know. 643 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, give me, give me his initials CP. Are 644 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: you right? Come on? 645 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 3: Can we just tell him? 646 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 4: Go ahead, go ahead and tell. 647 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 3: Him every time we go to Arizona he's like Tyler 648 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: Higby day in coming to Tyler higby Day. And so 649 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: I thought, since he's not gonna play that, you were 650 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 3: just gonna go Rams tied end. 651 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: That's that's that's always been the case down there. It's 652 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 4: it's I told you this funny stuff. For whatever reason, 653 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: it's like the circle of life. Every time you go somewhere, 654 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 4: you have success. Tyler Higby would have a terrible season 655 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: unless he's playing the Eagles or the Cardinals. And it 656 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: has to be Arizona in Arizona, right, and Philly in Philly. 657 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: Has to be Philly in Philly. But when he plays 658 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 4: the Cardinals, forever whatever reason, he scores two or three times. 659 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 4: I don't remember that was it last year he scored 660 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: two touchs. I put in my fantasy. I was like, 661 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 4: I put in my fantasy this week, so two touchs. 662 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: Join us on RAMS Radio at about twelve fifty five 663 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: Pacific time on Sunday, and you'll hear Maurice Jones Drew 664 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 3: say the exact same thing. 665 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 4: Lobe Parkinson, huge signing, big day, Big day, Kyra Williams, Kobe, 666 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 4: it will be good. 667 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well you got your keys? 668 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 3: Who's yours? 669 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question. 670 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 4: See you threw it out to us. A ready I am. 671 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: Actually I'm going to go. H John Johnson. I was 672 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: really impressed. 673 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: I liked and you know what, actually I think back 674 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: there was one specific play that stood out to me 675 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: for him as well as Quentin Lake. And it was 676 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: after the Rams scored starting the second half, and it 677 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: was the next three and out and it was their final, 678 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 2: their last tackle on that series. That was superb crashing 679 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: down in the box. I was just I was floored 680 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: by their physicality. 681 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: So I'm going with John Johnson. 682 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: Can I say one last thing, the one thing that 683 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 4: we haven't talked about. I tried to mention a couple 684 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: of times on the broadcast, this is a much more 685 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 4: physical defense with Chris Shule at the helm. Have you 686 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 4: noticed that even in the preseason tell us just like 687 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 4: Spate in the preseason spaces in the preseason, he was 688 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 4: hitting everybody, Neil hitting everybody, guys, Safeties were coming down, 689 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 4: McCullough was coming to everybody. Was just way more had 690 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 4: more of a reckless abandonment, and how they played fast physical. 691 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 4: You go to Detroit and I'm like, I'm like, ah, 692 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: we saw these young guys doing the preseason. Does it 693 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 4: carry over to the regular season? And I feel like 694 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: the Rams defensively were way more physical, way more physical 695 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: than Detroit was offensively. I mean they were beat hitting guys. 696 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: I mean the first play with Montgomery was it wasn't Montgomer. 697 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 4: I think it was Roseboom hit Montgomery on the first 698 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 4: play of the game and it like turned his head, 699 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 4: snapped his head a little. I was like, Oh, this 700 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: isn't the This isn't the high flying Rams defense is 701 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 4: trying to get turnovers and get to the quarterback. This 702 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: is the defense is going to hit you in the 703 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 4: mouth play after play after play, which is gonna bode 704 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 4: well as you get ready for other teams on the show. 705 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: Is what was so unfortunate about that overtime drive is 706 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: they were fatigued. Their tongues were dragging, and they started 707 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: breaking tackle as the lines did, and it it spun 708 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 3: a different take away than what you both established earlier 709 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: in that contest. 710 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: There was so much conversation last year about the no 711 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: name defense, right and trying to find the identity of 712 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: this defense, and coming into this, we've been looking at 713 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: the Rams from an offensive standpoint time and time again. 714 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: I mean, they're predicated on offense, but if there's a 715 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: spot for the Rams fans to be excited, I think defensively, 716 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: that's where we're showing out right now. 717 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: And I'm stoked to see it in Week two. 718 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: All Right, guys, I think we've got our keys into 719 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: the Cardinals matchup. Thanks so much for joining us here 720 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: on Between the Horns. It's been a blast having you 721 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: for my good friends JB. Long and Maurice Jones Drew. 722 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: I'm Cameron Irwin and again, this is Between the Horns, 723 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers.