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Speaker 1: Hell level Lo Love Lo Love, Low and low and

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Speaker 1: lower Loo. Welcome to the naughty but niceha. I'm your

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Speaker 1: hosts there and it's Wednesday, which means our differend. Donny

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Speaker 1: Meacham joins us, Hey, Donnie, are you there? Hello? Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: wen ton I gosip to get to it. Let's jump in.

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Speaker 1: What time is it? My friends? And as tea time.

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Speaker 1: This story is explosive. So a judge has rejected Andy

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Speaker 1: Cohen and brother's bid for a private showdown with Leah McSweeney.

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Speaker 1: Let me explain, So Liah McSweeney as soon. It has

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Speaker 1: really gone hard after Andy and Bravo, a legend of

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Speaker 1: the network just treated her terribly, terribly, terribly well moving forward,

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Speaker 1: brother wanted this case which is happening. This case is

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Speaker 1: not going to disappear. And this legal drama between Leah

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Speaker 1: McSweeney and Bravo, it just got a new public twist.

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Speaker 1: So a federal court judge ruled the her lawsuit against

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Speaker 1: Andy and the network will play out in bum bum

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Speaker 1: bum open court ooh, not behind closed doors in arbitration.

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Speaker 1: So Bravo wanted to move it into arbitration. They didn't

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Speaker 1: want this in open court for a network that has

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Speaker 1: made millions and millions, humiliating people publicly and really really

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Speaker 1: really sort of promoting bad behavior when it comes to

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Speaker 1: their own crimes, their own sins. Ssh, they don't want

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Speaker 1: to talk about that. Well, A judge has really is

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Speaker 1: should a strongly worded ruling here, and the judges scolded

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Speaker 1: Bravo's lawyers for trying to shift the case to private arbitration. No,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be in open court. To translation, We're going

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Speaker 1: to get a reality TV battle that is going to

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Speaker 1: be very, very real. If any public I cannot wait

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Speaker 1: to watch this. I think brav should broadcast it. Maybe

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Speaker 1: not Bravo, but maybe a competitor. And they're not They're

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Speaker 1: not in the same company anymore. They're gonna do this

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Speaker 1: trial in open court. We're gonna hear everything, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: see everything, and I am for it.

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Speaker 2: Where are you can we just get Can we get

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Speaker 2: Gwyneth Paltrow to play Lee McSweeney because her in court

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Speaker 2: is But here's the thing I think wise because you

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Speaker 2: know there's that documentary that's on Netflix about America's Next

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Speaker 2: Top Model. Yes, and I think that after that came

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Speaker 2: out because that does not that does not paint in

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Speaker 2: the pest life because it literally shows that they cared

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Speaker 2: only about ratings TV making a TV show and these

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Speaker 2: girls are literally one girl was, you know, sexually assaulted.

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Speaker 2: The other girls were passing out because they weren't eating

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Speaker 2: and they were having these really but that's what reality

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Speaker 2: TV was back in the day. But the sad part

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Speaker 2: is about this is the Real Housewives. They've been around forever.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is is those shows they kind of

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Speaker 2: stay the same because that's what you expect. So once

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Speaker 2: you get that expectation. So the thing is is they

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Speaker 2: were pushing Leah to allegedly drink yes on the show,

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Speaker 2: and now she is. She's sober. She even has like

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Speaker 2: a sober dating site and everything. But she was saying,

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Speaker 2: they were pressuring me to drink and I didn't want to,

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Speaker 2: and then I did, and then I acted a fool

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah. But here's the thing. I

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Speaker 2: am very I have to tread the line here because

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Speaker 2: I am very against these production companies pushing a narrative

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Speaker 2: on people and I hate it. But I will say,

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Speaker 2: these people, you do kind of know what you're signing you.

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Speaker 1: Know what, you know what you get in. They've approached

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Speaker 1: ed on me. How many times have we spoked to

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Speaker 1: reality shows. I'm not doing it because I don't want

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Speaker 1: you to make me look like a fool, and I

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Speaker 1: have no control of No, you are edited, so they

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Speaker 1: of course she was. It's the Real Housewives. They're all

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Speaker 1: drunk all the time. We've watched the show. It's the

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Speaker 1: other stuff that's going to be fascinating. The emails, the text.

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Speaker 1: What did Andy say? How did he talk to people?

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Speaker 1: Is he the Tyra Banks of his generation? I think

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Speaker 1: the answer is probably yes. Andy cared about profit ratings.

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Speaker 1: He's just bought his new house in the Hampton's. He

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Speaker 1: fabulously with rich. If you think Bethany's rich, think again,

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Speaker 1: ain't Bethany. Frank Ologill's Aaron. It's Andy Cohen. Andy Cohen

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Speaker 1: has made bank from this really awful show. We can

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Speaker 1: Admittedly they signed up. Nobody signed them up. I think

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Speaker 1: They get it. But Leah's biting back and she's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it in public court. We're going to see this.

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Speaker 1: It is fascinating with Bravo because they're so secretive when

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Speaker 1: it comes to their own business. They love telling you

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Speaker 1: everybody's secrets, everybody's secrets. They love love making fun of people,

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Speaker 1: really ruining lives in some instances here, people have gone

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Speaker 1: to jail on this show. But when it comes to

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Speaker 1: done it. I know it's a very complicated. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sit back with a bucket of popcorn

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Speaker 2: What about you. Here's the thing, this is the this

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Speaker 2: is the truth here. I know this and you know this, Rob.

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Speaker 2: This lawsuit is only moving forward because there are receipts,

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Speaker 2: text messages, guess emails. You can't just go out and

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Speaker 2: say they forced me to drink, because we can all

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Speaker 2: say that. What you have is you have a text

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Speaker 2: from Andy specifically saying you better drink tonight. Here's something

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Speaker 2: along the line. There is something like that, there's.

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Speaker 1: A smoking there. Yeah, there's a reason brav wants it

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Speaker 1: in arbitration. They want this private. They want to settle

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Speaker 1: this behind the scenes. And it just said no, No,

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Speaker 1: I love this, I really really do, because it's hypocritical

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Speaker 1: for a network who's exploited people who do this type

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Speaker 1: sixty minutes. No, you live by the sword, you die

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Speaker 1: by the sword. Bravo, sign me up. This might be

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Speaker 1: the best episode of The Housewives of all time, which

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Speaker 1: brings us to our pole question of the day, a lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: You're saying that the lawsuit against Andy Cohen must be

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Speaker 1: held in open court. So there's a lawsuit against Andy

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Speaker 1: and Brather, but it will play out in open court.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to be behind the scenes, not behind

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Speaker 1: closed doors, which is where Andy wants. Our question is

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Speaker 1: I doty noise. Rob Our Facebook page is not a gossip.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Donny Love, what are you working on? Quick?

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Speaker 2: I just want to tell because we know Bravo listens. Hello,

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Speaker 2: Hello too, And I know you would agree with this statement.

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Speaker 2: You know what you did. And to be honest, I'm

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Speaker 2: in your PR person. I wish I was Megan's PR person,

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Speaker 2: oh her disaster. But you would look better if you

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Speaker 2: our network. We're going to be open and we're gonna say, yes,

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Speaker 2: we did it, we apologize and move on. When you

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Speaker 1: Yes, do you show do it? It's only absolutely absolutely what.

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Speaker 2: Do you Timothy Shallow, Ma, honey, he made a little,

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Speaker 2: you know, a flippant remark about you know, the ballet

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Speaker 2: I mean the view when in on him whoop. He

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Speaker 2: was not happy. You know you made a mistake when Jeopardy.

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Speaker 2: When Jeopardy is how to get you, you've made much stake.

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Speaker 2: So they you know, they had a little question posted

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Speaker 2: a clip of contestants valuesing to a ballet in Uprok Fergruary,

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Speaker 2: which was not a not a subtle dig. It's you

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Speaker 2: know you've you've made a mistake when you got Jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: I love the Jeopardy. I love I love that they're

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Speaker 1: clapping back. It makes it funny. This is the new Jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: It's a great choice to watch it. I love that show.

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Speaker 1: They've managed to stay relevant. It's not a dull old show.

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Speaker 1: It's a great show. The concept of the show is great,

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Speaker 1: but it's cheeky. And now I love Ken Jennings. I

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Speaker 1: going to be really telling this Sunday. Is Timothy going

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Speaker 1: to win?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Most of the controversy happened after voting ended, so he

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Speaker 1: the titles turning on him in La Long or at

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Speaker 1: least weeks before. These really silly comments about opera and ballet.

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Speaker 1: I think what is so damaging about these comments is

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Speaker 1: that he's always painted himself as a real New York

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Speaker 1: Center and be in the opera house and be in

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Speaker 1: the New York Philharmonic. He's a bit of a snob

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Speaker 1: about his own career, his own craft. And let me

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Speaker 1: remind Timothy if anything is irrelevant, if anything is something

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Speaker 1: we don't care about, may I suggest it's ping pong.

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Speaker 1: You were promoting a movie about ping pong, hardly the

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Speaker 1: nation's pastime. It's not basketball, it's not baseball, it is

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Speaker 1: it's ping pong. So Timothy, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: await and see okay. Lia zaman Nelly is talking about

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Speaker 1: the moment that she realized that she found out that

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Speaker 1: went on to say that unknowingly to this moment changed

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Speaker 1: her life because a doctor prescribed her valium and that's

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Speaker 1: when her long complicated history with prescriptions with drugs really

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Speaker 1: her biography comes out, she's doing interviews. I hope she

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Speaker 1: tells the whole truth. I'm told by people who have

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Speaker 1: read the book, they're a little disappointed. It's a very glossy.

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Speaker 1: It's a very showbiz. It's a very lieser version of

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Speaker 1: the book. She doesn't dig deep. I don't think we

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Speaker 1: expected that of her. But it is still going to

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Speaker 1: be a massive read. She's Liza Manella. I mean, she's

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Speaker 1: a superstarfr mom was Judy Garland, Dorothy from the Wisdom

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Speaker 1: of Ours. I think I'm going to get the book.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Donnie?

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. It drives me great. If you're going

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Speaker 2: to do a Mimi, if you are going to call

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Speaker 2: it tell everything, a biography, whatever you're gonna call it,

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Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta tell everything.

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Speaker 1: You gotta tell.

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Speaker 2: You can't just I mean, you're lies them, and sweet

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Speaker 2: you have seen everything, Honey, you had what you have

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Speaker 2: seen in the back room at Studio fifty four would

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Speaker 2: melt the pages of those those allegedly gay husbands. We

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Speaker 2: want to hear about it, sweetie. We want to know everything.

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Speaker 2: If we don't know everything, why buy the book? And

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Speaker 2: I think that that is the problem that she's going

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