WEBVTT - Tres Amig-NAWs: RHOC Recap with Alexis Bellino 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.760 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.239 I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.520 favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.360 and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.040 Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.680 Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.680 addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:39.400 scripted as well. Hey, rain Drops on today's episode Reality 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.440 with the King. I'm back, rain Drops. I keep telling 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.560 you guys, you have to subscribe to my YouTube channel. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.120 Alexis looks so gorgeous today. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:49.479 If you're not. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:53.560 Watching on YouTube, let me paint the picture. She has 0:00:53.920 --> 0:01:02.240 long blonde tresses. She has on a icy blue jewelry. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:07.120 I'm assuming it's an a a white tank top and 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:08.720 the face is always stunny. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:10.520 But you look good. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.000 Okay, Well you'll know why next week. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.000 Ah. The thing is this, Alexis. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.600 You keep teasing it week about week, two weeks ago, 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.200 it was next week, last week, it was this week, 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:23.920 So this week is next week. 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.520 I'm keeping you all on your toes. Yes, it'll be 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:27.040 next week. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:31.800 Are you are you sure, Well, we'll see. I'll text 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.560 Spencer Binster. Spencer is Alexis handler. 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:38.800 Everything goes through heav. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.280 I mean, Johnny would get jealous, except he's gay, so 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:47.680 it's okay. I always tell him I'm like, Spencer, you're 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.360 my second husband. And then john just like is in 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.560 the background, like rolling his eyes because I've got to 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.919 call Spencer as soon as I find out anything. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.200 You're like, Spencer, is this really happening? What's going on here? 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.520 Yeah? 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:04.720 We're here to recap episode three, season twenty of the 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:09.480 Real Housewives of Orange County. I have a lot of thoughts, 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:15.720 but I do. Okay, it may not listen. You and 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:21.160 I are so good at this because we don't give 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:25.040 a shit if our thoughts are popular unpopular. We it's 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.480 just our thoughts, and oftentimes we agree. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:28.560 We do. 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.880 I actually like when we don't agree, though, because you 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.040 give me food for thought about your perspective. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.840 And it's like, that's why the show is so good. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.600 It's because somebody watching, you know, in one household, and 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:40.760 someone watching in another, they have completely two different takes 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:41.720 on the scene that just happened. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.880 So it's just it's just cool. And I, you know, 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:44.320 I just. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.080 Hope that everyone realizes that we're literally not bad people. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.680 We're just giving an opinion, and it's just for one episode. 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.240 It doesn't mean we think at all the time. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.720 But yeah, it's yeah. I like when we agree and 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:54.800 I like when we don't agree. 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:56.639 Yes, no, listen, it's poop of thought. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.120 Is the reason why people love watching us and listening 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.400 to us as well. So let's get into it. One 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.240 of the scenes that I really wanted to talk to 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:09.000 you about first is the scene between Jen and Ryan. 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.080 Wow, you're skipping like three other scenes. You're going straight 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:13.560 for that one. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:27.079 Let's listen. How about we have you started? Because I 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:32.919 struggled with this episode. As I'm struggling trying to interesting. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.359 Tell me why, because I wonder if it's the same 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.960 reason I did. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.080 Is the reason why I skipped three scenes? Because this 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:41.240 episode was boring? 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.920 Okay, well, it's funny because I got something with one 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:45.920 of my best friends and said that right before this 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.720 episode or this but before we started podcasting. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.360 So look, Alexis, I did not realize you would notice 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.200 that I skipped over a couple of scenes. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.440 But the one thing I will give a shout out. 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:02.640 It was nice to see camera and her Sophia right. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.640 Yes, move out, move in boyfriend. That was nice. 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.160 That's hard, that's the first. That's the empty nester like. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:10.760 And I'm starting to feel it because two of mine 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.520 left me at the same time on going to college 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.440 and one just got married and lives on his own now. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.440 But so I have one left, and when Miles leaves, 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.559 I'm going to be like, oh my, I mean, that's hard. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:19.479 But you're right. 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:20.560 I mean, it wasn't boring. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.760 That scene wasn't boring because I love seeing inside her home, 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.040 any of the any of the housewives wives. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:26.160 But yeah, that was a scene. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.839 And then I forget what the other seat there's another scene, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.320 and then the or then the seat the Ryan engine scene. 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.960 So yeah, I mean it was one with Shannon and something. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.200 But I don't think we need to worry about that, 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.880 right listen, because the thing is this, I wanted to 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.200 at least start the pod on a good note, okay, 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.880 because it may not end up that way. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.520 Well, Carlos, you're on a track record for that. Okay. 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:55.320 Two episodes were bagging on Heather. Last episode, I forget, 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:55.920 but it's like. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:00.640 Okay, last episode, we both agree that Carmelo was a 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.279 great yeah. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.200 Yeah, yeah, Well we need to get into the dildo 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:06.359 of all that this episode. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.719 But go ahead, let's go on Jin and Ryan. 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.880 As I'm vibrating in my chair as we speak, So Carmela, 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.359 send me one to my po box. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:23.159 Okay, so look one of them. I'm just I'm just 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.520 saying I except on Swag. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:25.200 Now. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:30.080 The thing that I will continue to say it was 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:35.480 not on my Bengo car Alexis Janssen, that Gin is 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:42.159 my favorite so far this season, Okay. And the reason 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:50.520 why I'm saying that she is providing personal story that 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:57.479 feels genuine, that is real. She's not playing to the camera. 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:02.960 She's not trying to you make a moment. She's really 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.119 offering her real life. And I will say these past 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.680 three episodes, my eyes are gluten on Jen, and I 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.760 feel like Jen is operating in her most authentic self. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:14.479 So when she's talking. 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:18.240 To Ryan about her son, Grayson, I believe that's his name, 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.560 how she's he got a ticket he was speeding over 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.280 one hundred miles per hour and he's only a teenager, 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:28.240 and she's sort of. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.440 Like, I feel like he's acting out. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.640 And then Ryan said, look, I feel like because his 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:37.159 dad is not around. That's probably why he feels the 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:41.039 way he feels. And to see how Jen immediately started 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:46.680 crying and listen, we could we could honestly continue focusing 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.799 on the rest of her storyline in this episode because 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.400 it was so lair to me, even when she was 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:58.479 talking to Grayson and how he admitted that the divorce 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.200 took a toll on him because he went from having 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.839 his parents home with him seven days a week to 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:07.839 not seeing his father frequently. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:09.440 And I lost it. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.840 I lost it, and I wanted to talk to you 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:17.600 because you obviously experience divorce and I wanted to know, 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.400 based on you watching the scene, could you relate to that. 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:22.720 Oh my gosh, yeah, I cried. 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:23.480 I did. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.720 I did have actual tears when Jen was talking to 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:29.040 her son, and I do. Let me back up to 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.920 when they first when their first scene. I did like 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.640 how authentic, how authentic she is this season. I do 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.920 like that she's kind of being a bulldog since Tammer's 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.960 pulled back. Obviously, it feels like Jen is now the 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.000 one that's stepping it up to move storyline and such. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.680 But the one thing that I caught is Ryan called 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.240 out the truth of what he thought, and what he 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.880 saw is the stepdad. And Jen was like, no, it's 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.680 not that's not what it is. He's just a teenager 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.120 going through and that's what moms think. You know, you 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.160 don't know unless you talk to your kid what's really 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:02.119 bothering them. And so I thought, Wow, Ryan's really involved 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:06.440 in these children's lives and is very receptive and aware 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.800 of what's going on. And then when Jinn said no, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.440 but then she hears from Grayson himself, Yeah, I mean 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:13.559 I don't see my dad. 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.200 You know, there's two parts to that. It takes two 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:16.640 to tango. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:18.760 So the dad could should be reaching out to his 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:20.960 son and spending more time with his kids. I would 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:22.880 think if like I'm like with Ryan, I'm like, if 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.840 I didn't kiss my kids good night, it kills me 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.760 when they leave me for one day, you know, it's like, 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.280 and now they're moving out, so I don't know what 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.320 I've got to find and pick up pickleball or something. 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.520 But anyway, so I feel like for Jin to have 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.360 that scene with Grayson, like, first of all, for him 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.599 to open up like that on camera, a lot of 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:40.880 kids would have said, no, mom, I don't want to 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.480 talk about it, right, now let's talk about it tonight. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.000 He was really authentic and raw too. And then it 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.600 makes you wonder for me because I'm from a divorce family, 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.679 my parents and also I'm now divorced with my children. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.240 It makes me wonder like, how much more did it 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.920 affect my kids than the talks that we've had, you know? 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.800 And it made me feel so guilty, like she felt, 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.400 I had mom guilt out the wazoo. I was like, 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.000 holy hack. Now I want to sit my kids down 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.520 when they all get They're all in different places right now, 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.160 but when we have sit down, I want to be like, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.520 what did how did it affect you? 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:13.520 How did it damage you? 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.000 Like because if they were all in therapy and I 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.720 was very present and I got him full time, so 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:20.800 I was kind of in the same shoes as Jen. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.960 But man, did you tear up on that show? 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:25.120 I did? I listen. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.480 And the reason why I love it so much is because, look, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:32.360 I am a single, gay black man and I'm not 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.960 a parent, so I it's not relatable to me in 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.440 terms of my life. However, it goes to show you 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:44.840 how universally these type of storylines can affect anybody watching 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:49.199 it because to see Jen talk to her son about it, 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.120 and I would give him so much credit, being a 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:56.360 seventeen year old kid who admitted to pretty much. He 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.199 didn't use these words. I don't want to. I'm not 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.760 going to use the word. But people are being unkind 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:02.280 to him, is what he said. I don't want to 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.520 use the B word in all fairness. So he said 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.640 that people were unkind to him, and I thought how 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:15.360 brave that was, because you may assume that those kids 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:19.840 would watch this scene and perhaps unfortunately use that to 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:26.000 weaponize him and to see Jim break down. Because and 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.520 again I'm not a mother or father, so I really 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:32.160 really couldn't wait to talk to you about it. It 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:36.040 must be tough for a mother to hear from her 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:41.319 son that people are unkind to me, when, like she said, 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.480 you're the most kindest human on earth. And you could 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:49.160 tell by his sweet spirit, his sweet soul rights. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.320 He doesn't have any cockiness to him. 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.600 He's got no agro, no like you know, I mean, 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.640 teenagers go through their hormones and they're up and down, 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.200 and they have their bad moods and you don't know 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.520 why and all that, but you can see his spirit 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.040 through him, and and you know, for moms, most moms, 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.040 I'm not gonna say every mom, because sometimes dads get 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.000 the full kids full time and sometimes it's the other 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.920 way the flip side, most moms who have their children 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:15.600 and are a very a parent that's there for them 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:21.200 like completely, their their person. Every agony that they feel 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.280 it could be a pimple that's driving them crazy and 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.640 they're embarrassed about pimple. The mom feels that like ten 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.000 times more for that kid. So when your kids are 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.920 hurting about kids that are unkind or a scenario at school, 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.600 or you know, like even a speeding ticket, like, yeah, 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.680 Jen probably was scared, like you could have died. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.200 That's a very easy way to die. 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:39.920 And so but then for Gen to be like, but 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:41.880 it's there's so much more pain going on in my kid. 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.199 I should not have made a big deal about the 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.959 speeding ticket. That's a true mom feeling too, and it's 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.680 you know it really you kind of get the feeling though, Carlos, because. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:49.880 You have dogs. 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:51.800 So if your dog gets injured, like last week your 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.920 dog had an injury, a foot problem, it makes you 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:55.720 very we were laid on our head because you were 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.920 worried about your dog that's a kid, do you so 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.120 you kind of get the feeling. It's it's exemplify. I 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:01.920 had more once you have somebody that comes out of 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:05.920 your body. But yeah, it's I just felt so for 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.520 that scene that was just kudos to both of them 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.440 are doing that. I hope he doesn't regret doing that 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.679 at seventeen and that authentic on camera because you don't 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.160 know how his peers are going to. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:16.280 React to that. 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.400 Good good job, and good job Jen for you know, 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.080 she started crying and then he had to parent her 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.280 a little bit, which makes him a little bit parentified, 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.600 which kids do feel because I felt that with my parents. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:27.400 So there's a whole bunch of stuff that went into that. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.600 And the whole time I was just I was literally 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:30.640 tearing up the whole time. 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:35.760 Oh it was. It pulled my hard strings, it really did. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.800 So shout out to Jen Grayson and Ryan, like you said, 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.640 listen and the beautiful thing about. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.160 Father, good stepfather. I'm telling you, I don't care what 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:46.600 anyone wants to say about him. 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:47.360 That guy. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.600 I mean, hello, And they named their cat Johnny Ja, 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:51.880 so I mean, I mean. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.680 That must be a really cool cat. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.960 Okay, I mean, if you name your dog Bieber or 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:57.640 your cat j Lo. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:58.160 I get it. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.400 I mean, Johnny Jay's cool as fuck, and so that 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:04.600 cap must be too, I get it. But anyway, whatever 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.840 anyone wants to say around Ryan, because he does get 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.840 some slacks sometimes, that man has shown up for those 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:13.720 kids and you cannot take that away from him and 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.400 the way that they all act together. I mean, I 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.199 just I love all of that. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.960 Yes, yes, yes, I'm here with you when it comes 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.559 to that, and shout out to Ryan, I echo your 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:29.320 same sentiment. He got a lot of negative flack the 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.559 first season that he was a part of the show, 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:33.960 and look, I was embarrassed. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:34.720 I don't know much. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.640 But what I will say to you as a parental 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:43.880 figure and their lives, allowing his fiance and her children 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.679 to move in with him and for him to see 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.560 exactly what the problem was, it goes to show you 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.319 he has a relationship with those kids and he sees 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.079 it and he's a great father figure. So again, Jen 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.719 to me, whatever you're doing, Jen, keep doing it. I 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:01.800 have nothing bad to say about you. 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:03.320 Now. Heather de bro does. 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:05.840 Well, I mean. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.200 Rightly, so they both I mean, they both have a 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:09.720 reason to have a little bit of a beef with 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:10.160 each other. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.000 This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:19.640 Let's get back into the show here we are with that. 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:24.520 So Heathern meets with Emily, Right, So Heathern meets with Emily, 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:29.520 and Heather feels like she may want to take a 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:35.240 step back from Jin due to Jin telling Tamra the 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.400 things that Heather was saying behind Tamra's back. 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.120 Look, I think the thing with. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:46.480 Heather is she does like being called out, especially in 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:47.600 front of people that she. 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.160 Talks about behind their backs. And look, no one else does. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.920 Right, So in aw fairness, I wouldn't either, But that's 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:55.280 why I like to say it to your face and 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.800 not behind your back. Here's me having a podcast where 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.640 I get to say it to the world, so there's 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:05.600 no miss understanding there. But do you think it's warranted, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.160 alexis for Havether to want to take a step back 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:15.080 from Jen do to Jen only saying to Tamra, Hey, 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:16.880 this is what Heather say and I want to get 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.040 down to the bottom of it together. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.800 Well, I mean, okay, if I'm being real, because that's 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.080 what we do on this podcast, that's what I do. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:24.520 In real life. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:28.280 Anyways, but if I were in Heather's shoes, I would 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.640 probably have taken a little bit further with Jen and said, 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.240 why did you feel like you could just do that 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.360 or what provoked you to do that? 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.560 Because we all kind of sit behind each other's backs. 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.960 I mean they all do. I mean, if anyone says they. 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.160 Don't complain or whine about something that happened on one 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:44.680 of the scenes they filmed, or one of this or 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.320 the one of that, then they're all lying because they 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:46.800 all do it. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.120 However, you know, there's nothing wrong with Jen calling. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.320 It out because I would kind of be in that 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.160 shoes also, I would be like, I'm sick of hearing 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.280 about it and she's not addressing it directly with Tamra. 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.520 Why don't you go to Tamra, go to who you're 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.200 and you guys talk it out. Don't do it to 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.280 me and behind my back invent to us all about it. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.680 So I can kind of see where Jen was coming from, 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.840 and I can see why how the would be like, Okay, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.600 well I'm a little bit you know, are you becoming 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:11.280 the next camera? 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:16.240 Are you now being the pot star? So I don't know, what. 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:20.840 Do you think I think this? I think I think 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.840 two things can be true. Like I said, and how 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.280 does the fans know you don't want anybody you're having 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.520 an intimate conversation with go back and tell the bars 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.560 that you're talking about, Carlos, that. 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.320 Was not intimate. They were out a dinner with six 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:34.200 or four girls. 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:35.920 That's not intimate. That's not a one on one where 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.280 you go out for a bi and a and say 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:39.880 can we have a little chit chat? And I'm really 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:41.520 got to get something off my chest and please keep 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:42.320 this off record. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.200 That is not what happened. 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.760 They were out of dinner after shooting a ten hour, 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.320 freaking hardest day of your life, which the reunions are 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.000 having a couple of cocktails inventing and everyone's ganging up inventing. 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.440 That's not a intimate and intimate moment. 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.320 Well, look the first time, try to help. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:04.520 I don't mean it like that. I'm not saying it 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.080 because it's against Tether. I'm just saying it's like, that's 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:08.119 nothing intimate about that. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.200 If you think one of those four girls you're bitching 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.000 up to or not going to go back and tell 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:16.760 somebody something, okay, then then maybe one martini too, Espresso 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.159 martini too many. I don't know, but no, I mean you, 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.640 you you, and especially after just getting off of the reunion, 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:24.680 when you've just sat there and bagged on each other 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.560 for ten straight hours with three breaks and no alcohol, 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.280 and you're just sitting there like shooting crap. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:35.240 That's happened all for eight months of your life. Please, 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.680 it's gonna get back. You can back. 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.760 Somehow, or maybe one of the waitresses in the restaurant 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.720 would have DMed Tamar and said, you have no idea girlfriend. 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.760 They were just totally bagging on you this whole dinner 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:50.560 all I heard. 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:56.120 Now, guess what, Speaking of DM, I got a DM juste. 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:57.280 I doubt that's just one. 0:17:58.040 --> 0:17:59.720 I got a DM from a rape doot. They wanted 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:00.760 me to rea to you. 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.400 Of shicks. Is it good or bad? 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:07.160 No? 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.240 If it's good, read it, it's bad. Don't read it. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:14.600 I want to read it. Oh God, let. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.680 Me put my seat boot on and maybe I should 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.199 go get a DM. 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.080 Alexis dad said, I got a d M. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.080 Why didn't they just DM me and put and tell 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:24.840 me to my face? 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.560 Because they're a rain drop, so I. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:34.520 Must talk to me a rain drop sidekick. We can't, 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:41.480 can't you can't d M the rain Drop sidekick, So. 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.960 I'm gonna give her a shout out. Shout out to 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:45.840 my beautiful rain Drop. 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:54.360 Kimberly and okay, okay, Kimberly and said, I just love 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:55.040 our fans. 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.320 I gotta I gotta say that, Alexis, we have great fans. 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:03.000 Okay, Hey Carlo, I'm listening to your podcast with Alexus 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.200 today recapping Orange County. 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.440 Please tell Alexis that Tamra does. 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:15.520 Listen to your podcast because she referenced it today on 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:21.560 to teasing a pod saying something you said about Angie 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:22.520 K's divorce. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:28.240 So please tell Alexis that I love you. I love her. 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:33.199 I just wanted to let Alexis know it's true. Thank you. Thanks. 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.520 Well, you know what's funny, Thank you, Kimberly And Okay, 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:38.840 you know what's funny is after Tamara heard that podcast, 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:40.639 she she texted me or called me and goes, I 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.320