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Speaker 2: Okay, they're back. Hoo's back, the ogs Andrea and Jesse.

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Speaker 2: What Yes, Gabrielle and Mark are back and they're in

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Speaker 2: a new show. This is so mata. This is like

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Speaker 2: the nine two O twenty twenty five. Someone did it first.

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Speaker 2: They're back and screen together and we get to talk

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Speaker 2: to them. Ready, I'm ready, Yes, how.

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Speaker 3: Are you good?

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Speaker 1: You guys look so great. This is so surreal. We've

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Speaker 1: seen both of you in real life. It's not like

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen you since the show ended.

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Speaker 3: But I know we're not together.

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Speaker 1: You haven't seen no, not together and not like on

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Speaker 1: a zoom. This is like they're hugging, they're kissing.

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, yeah, Charlie.

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Speaker 3: Charlie says it's okay.

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Speaker 1: What a nice husband.

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Speaker 3: I know, he said, honey, if it makes you happy, but.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you could really go run with that.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we've been married almost thirty four years.

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Speaker 2: No, my gosh, I was I was just thinking about

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Speaker 2: your wedding last night.

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Speaker 1: Wait, what tell me about it?

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Speaker 3: In Santa Barbara, I forget Really, Jenny, my niece still

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Speaker 3: talks about because you guys, you know how everybody was

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Speaker 3: wearing like them. You guys put like napkins on your

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Speaker 3: heads or something.

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Speaker 2: But I did.

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Speaker 1: Why would we do this?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I have actual pictures of it. But

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Speaker 3: Jenny was holding Rebecca, my other niece. Sid wasn't born yet,

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Speaker 3: and Rebecca was so attached to Jenny like Jenny were

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Speaker 3: when she would like follow her around.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god? Was it?

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Speaker 1: Was it the Force Seasons in Santa Barbara? Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: It was. I kind of remember it. You know, I

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Speaker 3: don't look at the videos. I don't get the videos

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Speaker 3: from the what not. No, I don't not that I

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Speaker 3: don't know, but yes, it was there. It was Tori.

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Speaker 3: That was a long time ago, I know.

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Speaker 2: But let's talk about your TV hubby.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, he's my yeah forever. Wait can you explain

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Speaker 1: to us why you're together, both of you there in

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Speaker 4: Why we're together outside? Yeah, that's just to beat We're

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Speaker 4: going to promote a little independent series that we worked on.

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Speaker 2: He worked on.

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Speaker 3: I came on actually to do as a cameo. Mark say, Gabrielle,

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Speaker 3: do you want to go and do this? You know

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Speaker 3: this little thing that I'm working on and I independent project,

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Speaker 3: and I said for you absolutely will go and do it.

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Speaker 2: Have fun.

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Speaker 3: It's turned out to be a really amazing project.

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Speaker 1: Wait, we're talking about Middlehood, you guys. I want everybody

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Speaker 1: to know who's listening. We're talking about a show called Middlehood.

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Speaker 1: It's an eight episode series that is streaming right now

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Speaker 1: on demand on Amazon Prime Video.

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Speaker 3: And it is an independent implex complex, but it is

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Speaker 3: the first independent project that's been nominated for an Emmy.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I qualified for qualified, qualified real quickly.

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Speaker 4: To be available on pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: Okay Amazon.

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Speaker 2: I binge watched all eight episodes last night. It is

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Speaker 2: so good.

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Speaker 3: I'm reading for it.

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Speaker 2: The last episode. Gab, Oh my god, I want more.

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Speaker 1: When you see her on screen, when you see Jesse's

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Speaker 1: like leaning back and thinking something that you call.

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Speaker 2: I called her Kelly last week first time ever.

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Speaker 4: People still people will still stopping and say, you're that

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Speaker 4: bartender and you're a cheating bartenders, Like.

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Speaker 2: Cheating, cheating bartender.

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Speaker 1: Okay, no, but when when Gab came on screen in Middlehood?

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Speaker 1: I was like, or when when?

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Speaker 3: When?

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Speaker 1: Not until the very last moment of the entire show.

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Speaker 3: And if it's picked up. I'll come back after.

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Speaker 4: It's a great moment.

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Speaker 1: I got chills, Like I was like, oh, could you

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Speaker 2: Like, were you like they still got it? Oh, the

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Speaker 2: chemistry is still hot after all these years.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 4: I love that, And we haven't we haven't been out

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Speaker 3: Our friendship has definitely grown, you know, like when we

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Speaker 3: talk about the gifts of the show, about our relationships

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Speaker 3: and stuff. My my love for Mark, for him's friendship

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Speaker 4: Likewise, and people, I think people get sick of hearing it,

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Speaker 4: Like they want to hear the bad stuff they want

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Speaker 4: to hear, and I can't. I can'tnot tell the truth

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Speaker 4: that I'm a terrible liar unless you're pay me.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk more about I think we should

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Speaker 1: talk more about the middle the show Middlehood, But first,

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Speaker 1: can we just talk about nine twenty for a second.

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Speaker 2: Well it's so meta because okay, okay, so you want

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Speaker 2: to go back I do. First time it all began,

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, just for a little bit, all right, where

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Speaker 3: do you want to go?

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Speaker 1: Well, gab you were on the show. Tell me refresh

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Speaker 1: my memory please. Tory probably remembers, but you left in

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Speaker 1: season five.

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Speaker 3: I left in season five after I had had Kelsey.

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Speaker 3: I took a year. I did the show for a year,

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Speaker 3: and then I moved.

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Speaker 1: On What tell Us? Why Why did you leave us?

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Speaker 3: There are many reasons I left. There's the There are

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Speaker 3: many reasons. Many. One is that I don't think they

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Speaker 3: He said, he really thought I was going to come

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Speaker 3: and tell him how I was pregnant. But I actually

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Speaker 3: He said, yeah, okay, And I said, but I don't

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Speaker 2: And I mean later, were you were you ovulating when

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Speaker 3: And then when Na but so much happened. I mean

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Speaker 3: New York Times wrote stuff like, how dare you have

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Speaker 3: She would never smart people, They wouldn't get pregnant. I

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Speaker 3: wrote back, I did a whole thing saying that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Intellect has nothing to do with this whatever. And anyway,

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Speaker 3: they did know how to write for me after that,

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Speaker 3: and it was just a matter of it was just time.

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Speaker 3: I think, and they just it wasn't going to happen.

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Speaker 2: So I moved on. You didn't ask us, You didn't

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Speaker 3: Know, I was really shy. We've talked about this before.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I felt like I didn't know how to

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Speaker 4: I felt so you never had that conversation while you're on.

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Speaker 3: They didn't even know I was right. I think everything

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Speaker 3: felt like I didn't belong. That's why, Wow, we.

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Speaker 2: Lost our dead mom. Who else was going to corral us?

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Speaker 3: I think I was irritating to everybody talks about it

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Speaker 3: like it's irritating. I like you, but it's irritating.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love you, but you're so irritating.

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Speaker 3: That's why you guys had reboot all the time. Oh

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Speaker 2: On point.

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Speaker 1: You were so good in BH nine. No, I couldn't

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Speaker 3: She was perfect, crying, you guys are so.

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Speaker 2: So jen ear muffs, ear muffs? Okay, So Andrea and

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Speaker 2: Jesse break up. She hasn't know yet. We haven't gotten

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Speaker 1: Didn't she come home and she said they're having problems. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So wait, Gab, was it in season eight or season ten?

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Speaker 2: When you come back again and again and again. Do

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Speaker 2: you tell us that you guys are divorcing?

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Speaker 3: The first time I come back, I think, right, I'm having.

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Speaker 1: Problems, problems at Steve's party.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I get a call from something happens and I'm

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Speaker 3: Huh yeah, Queen Mary, I remember the Queen Mary?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 1: What what?

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Speaker 3: I don't remember, except that I cried, like I was

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Speaker 3: crying like that was it?

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 3: We were separated at the time, right, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: When I left, they I didn't know anything other than what.

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Speaker 3: People were so mad that I left the show. They

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Speaker 3: that means that Mark's not going to be able to

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Speaker 3: be on the show. As your fault. I was like,

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Speaker 3: I was just making personal choices. I wasn't saying. Don't

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Speaker 2: Land. You guys did divorce ultimately, Mark, do you know that.

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize we divorced.

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Speaker 2: You divorced, and I believe you were with other people.

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Speaker 3: No, separated. I don't know that we divorced, separate.

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Speaker 4: Separated, and then had an affair with Juliete Binoche. I

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Speaker 2: There, you go wow. Okay, so let's go with this story.

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Speaker 2: So Jesse and Juliette Binoche. She was a good step

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Speaker 2: mom to Hannah. You guys are together, Andrea, let's say,

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Speaker 2: is there was someone else? Where are we today? If

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Speaker 2: it's nine O two O twenty twenty five? We want

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Speaker 2: to hope you guys got well. I got choked up there.

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Speaker 2: We want to hope you guys got back together.

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Speaker 4: All do.

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Speaker 3: We're grandparents? Yeah, we're very good friends and we probably know.

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Speaker 1: Are you friends with benefits?

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Speaker 2: And me says no, you guys got back together?

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Speaker 3: Do we get back together?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll just go that way.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Oh I'm so happy.

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Speaker 3: You know what? Too bad? I'm the real mother.

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Speaker 1: You are, you are the real mother of all. Wait, okay,

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Speaker 3: The actually medical program at Yale. Okay, that's research, answer, research, research, okay,

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Speaker 3: She's going to actually tell the story, our life story.

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Speaker 2: She's writing a memoir and then they're going to make

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Michelle Palerma, who was the writer and

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Speaker 2: Right, and Mark, how did you get associated with it.

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Speaker 1: Now and we asked chat, so it's a story told

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Speaker 3: No, people are so happy, no question about a man

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Speaker 4: Come on, that's it, and.

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Speaker 2: We're still sexy.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what she raised for her from Kickstarter? Like,

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Speaker 3: But you saw the quality. I mean it was great,

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Speaker 4: He was the head of the FBI.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, Mark, you look you were so sexy and so like.

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Speaker 2: Like, no, I feel better now. I don't know what.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no. I like his I liked

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Speaker 4: Gray Jenny saw me. Jenny saw me a person. We

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Speaker 3: And like, but she likes that.

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing you too. I think we talked about this.

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing you and having no idea who you were.

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Speaker 1: What it only last one day?

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00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: Yet mine lasted for ten years, but definitely left a mark.

444
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 4: Ten years.

445
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: No menopause lasted for ten ten years, no paramount. No

446
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: menopause only lasts for one day. It's the one day

447
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: when you haven't bled for a year. Sorry, Mark, we're

448
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: getting into this.

449
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 3: Oh so when I when I was fifty, you were

450
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 3: parry No fifty, I stopped.

451
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: That's when you stopped.

452
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: I stopped him one day.

453
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: Ever since then you've been post no posts.

454
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 3: Well then I was you're the post, and now maybe

455
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 3: eleven and now just we talked about this at you're

456
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 3: a thing. Jen so grateful for for if it's sharing

457
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: too much, but I am really grateful for ours. It

458
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 3: to help me.

459
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: Oh good, yeah, same, same glad you know.

460
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: Wait, so post menopause ends at a point.

461
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 3: Mark a minute after the first day.

462
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: I understand, but forever it's forever. Okay, you're going to

463
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: be sent out for.

464
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: The rest post forever. But at the symptoms, the symptoms

465
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 3: that like the you know, colts, all that stuff, that's that.

466
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: We've lost Mark completely. He is talking to other people

467
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: mill Yard, Now that was you know?

468
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 3: That was.

469
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: No Missy wait, Missy, come on screen immediately, My god,

470
00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: this is incredible.

471
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 3: Hold on now, Missy Gordon.

472
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 4: You could never lose me.

473
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 2: Miss right, Oh you look so good? Does she look good?

474
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 1: Looking exactly the same, even with the sunglasses.

475
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 3: Menopause, speaking, menopause, post menopause. Come on, come on, Missy

476
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: for post that's always conversation. It's all aged together, all

477
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: of you know.

478
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: This is now a true nine two o reunion. Oh

479
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 2: my gosh.

480
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 3: The neighborhood and I came by to say how to

481
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: Charlie because you know, and then I said stop and

482
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 3: then you guys whatever anyway, love.

483
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: You see always with you you always just like bop

484
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: in see hi and then pop out.

485
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: She's a bopper, makes clay and she says, my daughter

486
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 3: made this just like like to go pop so I P.

487
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

488
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 3: That's pretty. She's gonna be selling it. You can get

489
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: fottery by Molly Worried by.

490
00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: Molly, Molly creates the coolest stuff. My daughter's still obsessed with.

491
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: I love you, love you always and forever. Why how

492
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: is it that she looks exactly the same, you guys,

493
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: exactly the same.

494
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: She looks exactly the same. That's not fair, that's weird.

495
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: She's and she's really happy. Really, she just got good

496
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: beautiful woman married Nicole.

497
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, they got married. I'm so happy for her.

498
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: So interesting that the journeys we go on in this lifetime,

499
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: it just keeps going.

500
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: You're just like, whoa, I think it's so weird, like

501
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 3: just even talking to you guys, really so happy to

502
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: be in each other's lives after all the years and stuff.

503
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: But the arc of a life, right when you think

504
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 3: about when we first came together, what we didn't know,

505
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 3: didn't even fathom, Like who would have ever said thirty

506
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: whatever years ago? You know, a podcast one day and

507
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: you guys are gonna come on and we're gonna like.

508
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: Really really, it's wild.

509
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: It's great. And you guys have beautiful children, Jess, Yeah.

510
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a lot of kids. The other two

511
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: eight ten children between three ladies here and three and

512
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: you've got three thirteen.

513
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: That's thirteen right now here, people, an easy dozen.

514
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: It's a colony.

515
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: We're a village.

516
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: So excellent.

517
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: It's really wait, that's a great idea, Jen, what a

518
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: nine O two one o village? All she's got PTSD?

519
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 3: She said, any words, triggering hands up.

520
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't even ask it to

521
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: go up, but it went up.

522
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: A red flag to each that's like a song. There's

523
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: still wait, guys, wait, wait, how many kids do we

524
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: have amongst all of oh god, did you do that?

525
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 3: Well?

526
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: That was thirteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen.

527
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: Are you counties two?

528
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, parents, nineteen, no, twenty just okay, there's

529
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: like thirty thirty five of um.

530
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

531
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: We could have a whole village, like like little house

532
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: on the prairie.

533
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: But there's at least thirty of them. I think so

534
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: thirty of them.

535
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: Them the offspring, the spawn, the.

536
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 2: Spawn of us nine o two zero for our kids.

537
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: I think they can save the world for us.

538
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: For kids.

539
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: I hope so.

540
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 2: But imagine like doing an unscripted show where they all

541
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: get together.

542
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that'd be good, Like if they're trapped

543
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: in a wait a second, they trapped in a sound stage.

544
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: Great in actually, I think the recovery groups.

545
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 2: We go back to that town stage.

546
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: Literally, Yes, this would so good.

547
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: It's good, right, even if it's like bringing up memories

548
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh my gosh, my parent does that

549
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: and it's something that's so ingrained because of our formative years.

550
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: Or my parent's not like that at all. That's what

551
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: it looked like, that she's not like that. She's not

552
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: like are you kidding me? Oh my god, no, no,

553
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: no oh.

554
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: The fans are gonna freak out when they see this

555
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: episode seeing you two sit together in your backyard, so

556
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: handsome and beautiful, you guys, this is just a moment

557
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: in time for us on our OMG for sure, but

558
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: also just a moment in time for everyone that you're

559
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: back on screen together and it's monumental.

560
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: Gosh, and your chemistry is so off the charts, like

561
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: I felt watching you guys on screen. Now you had

562
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: more chemistry, and back then on screen you.

563
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: Have to say anything like for the the chemistry was

564
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: there and you guys didn't even speak chills.

565
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: I just want you to know, I said earlier, it's

566
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: really true, and I say it right to you. I

567
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: love you.

568
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: Well, I love you and that I know people sometimes

569
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: don't want to hear it, but I knew that the

570
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: first time we met, and I shared that story with you,

571
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: with you and Molly, your daughter.

572
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: Can you share it with us and our listeners.

573
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: How much time do you have.

574
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: I'll try to make an actor.

575
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 4: You can make it short as quick as possible. So

576
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 4: I'm living. Everything I owned was in the back of

577
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: a little white toy to pickup Drop. I don't know

578
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: if you guys know that, but everything, it's what I

579
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: drove the set for the first year. Everything I owned

580
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: was in that truck. And I was sleeping on a

581
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: on a borrowed mattress next to a friend of mine's piano,

582
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: Roy Abramson's piano, and I get this call to go

583
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: audition for the show. And then I got a call

584
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: to audition for NYPD Blue for a guy banger, which

585
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: is pretty much basically all I ever auditioned for. And

586
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: I thought, I got a shot. I have a real

587
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 4: shot at NYPD Blue. I'm never going to get cast

588
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: on nine or two one. Oh, that's impossible. You fast

589
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 4: forward a few days. I got the job, but I didn't.

590
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: I didn't realize it was a two year I thought

591
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 4: it was a couple of episodes as a boyfriend. That's

592
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 4: what the agent told me. So life life completely changed

593
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 4: over the course of a few days. And I and

594
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 4: the first episode was the Walsh's twentieth ann twenty fifth party,

595
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 4: and so everyone was there with all do you guys

596
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: remember that all the season season four, A ton of extras,

597
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: a ton of people, and it was it was just

598
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: this frenetic dynamic there and.

599
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: We were all together. It was pretty frenetic all together.

600
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: And that's also where they launched the idea of the

601
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: Melrose spin off, because it was also in Kelly and

602
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: Grant Show.

603
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 3: Right.

604
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: I don't know. I didn't know that. I didn't know anything.

605
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 4: I didn't know anything at that point. All I knew

606
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 4: was I was going to have this scene as a bartender,

607
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: and I knew my line. I'm never worried about learning lines.

608
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 4: I'm I'm pretty relaxed about that. The only time I

609
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: get nervous is if there's a lot of famous people,

610
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 4: and you guys were the most famous young people on

611
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 4: the planet. I would I lived in Chicago right before that,

612
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: and I would get in line at the grocery store

613
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: and your pictures would be on every magazine on the

614
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: little stands that are by the checkout counters. And I

615
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 4: know you guys were, but I like that was the

616
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: furthest thing from my reality. You know, I was doing theater,

617
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 4: you know, in Chicago, and all of a sudden, I'm

618
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: on set with these people and I could feel the panic,

619
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: that panic attack of and Jennifer Grant was the first

620
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 4: person that came up and say hi, and she made

621
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 4: me feel very much at home. She's very sweet.

622
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: She played Celeste, Steve's girlfriend.

623
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 4: I saw you guys around, but we hadn't been formally

624
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: introduced in ADS. I think it was I think it

625
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 4: was Leslie, I can't remember now, said you want to

626
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: meet Gab because we didn't have a chemistry. Read I

627
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: got the role and that was thrown into it and

628
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 4: I said, uh, yeah, I'm eater. I was so afraid

629
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: he was going to be this like tough cookie a

630
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 4: or someone who was not nice. And I'll never sorry

631
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 4: because it could have been a nightmare job and it

632
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: wasn't because you guys are so awesome, but I didn't

633
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 4: know that then. And I go through this big crowd

634
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: of people to this little waiting area back where Gab

635
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: was sitting with some other people talking, and they introduced us.

636
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 4: And the minute Gab got up and shook my hand

637
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 4: and hugged me, I thought, oh my god, it's safe

638
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 4: because I could see it in your eyes. I could

639
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 4: see just I mean, I'm not this isn't bullshit. I

640
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: could just see that that how good of a person

641
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: you were, And so I could take a real breath

642
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: at that point and go, okay, because we hadn't shot

643
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: the scene yet, We're going to shoot that the next night,

644
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: which we did. And from that point on, I knew

645
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: that I was in safe hands on set because you

646
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 4: guys were there. You realized that there were good days

647
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: and bad days, and sometimes the tension was very tense.

648
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: I knew. I knew I was always going to be safe.

649
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: So it gave me the It gave me the opportunity

650
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: to be creative. It gave me the opportunity to take

651
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: a breath and feel like I fit in. I think, like, yeah,

652
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: I was kind of out of my element. This was

653
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: not my world.

654
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: It's also the yea overwhelming is reworked there every day, right,

655
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: and then somebody new comes in and it has to

656
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: be daunting. I know. It's a couple of the interviews

657
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: even that you guys have done and when people had

658
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: this perception because it was just so it's just you're

659
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: in a certain rhythm and people don't know how to

660
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: swing in the rhythm. Necessarily, they're not you know, they're

661
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: in and they're out and they're not. They either catch

662
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: the wave or they don't, and you can't really help

663
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: as much as you want because you're on the wave too.

664
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Speaker 4: Like it's hard and you were piping it out. They

665
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 4: were doing twenty six episodes a year, double ups, what

666
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 4: three two or three times.

667
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Speaker 2: Year thirty two.

668
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: The energy was always blom boom boom boom boom. Yeah

669
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: coming in, you don't You don't have a chance to

670
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 4: just sit back and be ready.

671
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like on the job training and Gab did.

672
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: You know that he was gonna be a right like

673
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: stay on the show and be with no what if

674
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: you guys didn't have chemistry?

675
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: Well then they went to kept it. This is the

676
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 3: difference age being this now and then, because I don't

677
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: think that I realized that I deserve to be there

678
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 3: like everybody else did, and I think that I'd never

679
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: asked the questions. I was just you know, kind of

680
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: like going with it. I would have asked questions. I

681
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: would have actually asked for things to be a certain

682
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: way maybe, and you know, been a part of the

683
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 3: process more. But I was really intimidated by it and

684
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 3: trying and not telling anybody. The worst thing is, you know,

685
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: it's one thing everybody can share and have their if

686
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: you're not sharing that you're having these experiences. It's such

687
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 3: a good lesson, you know, is that we're never alone

688
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: really if we really just tell the truth. But sometimes

689
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: it's embarrassing or uncomfortable or frightening to tell. For me,

690
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: I don't want to speak to anybody, And now as

691
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: I'm older, I don't feel like I have that as much.

692
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: Now I feel more like I got to put it

693
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: out there.

694
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: But then at some point you go, I kind of

695
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 4: don't care what people think of me. We're going to

696
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: do a damn job.

697
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: Okay for sure. And now I could go and say

698
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: these are the things I want. When we did the reboot,

699
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: I was like really clear about things I wanted, and

700
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: I wasn't clear about I mean, I it was a

701
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: different it was I always say with it was livery.

702
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 4: Doing the reboot.

703
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you believe that fans want a straight reboot?

704
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: At this point you have.

705
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 4: Asked the fans, They probably love it, They would love it.

706
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. Now that we're rewatching, we're fan girls

707
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: now starting over. It's like I want more I'm like, no,

708
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: I don't want it to end after ten. I want

709
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: seasons like and just seeing the two of you back

710
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: on screen in middlehood, I was like, oh my god.

711
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: As a fan of nine of two now, I was like,

712
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: I want to see where all the characters are. I

713
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: want to see them all together again.

714
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 4: You guys probably know better their characters that there are

715
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 4: generations now that weren't even born there that love this show.

716
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 4: This show has a has a lifespan that's just spectacular.

717
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 4: There are kids of kids who grew up watching it

718
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 4: that are in love with this shoe and reruns. I've

719
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: been stopped a number of times, like they have to

720
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 4: look at me twice now, but they recognize me from

721
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 4: the show. You're that guy, aren't you.

722
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 3: There are people recognize feteen years old people recognize now.

723
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: I can tell when the show is really heavy and

724
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: reruns where because suddenly it's like, oh my god, like

725
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 3: it comes out of the woodwork right time.

726
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: There's some network that was it all the time, twenty.

727
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: Four hours of the day.

728
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 4: Cory. To add to what you were saying, I think

729
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 4: what some semblance of that would have a lot absolutely

730
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 4: because people do want to know where are they what

731
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: are they doing the characters?

732
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: What you're saying is we have a chance.

733
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: Any saying no, My man came up again.

734
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: Just breathe. We're gonna get you through it.

735
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: I need to like come one of those she got red.

736
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: You got literally I feel flush.

737
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: She's like, don't make these promises.

738
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: Before we go. I want you guys to plug Middlehood.

739
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Tell everybody where they can see it and everything they

740
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: need to know.

741
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 3: Watch Middlehood. Great show.

742
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: You can see it on Amazon Prime and Plex TV

743
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 4: and soon to be on YouTube TV.

744
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: That's right, it is.

745
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 4: It is delightful. My ninety five year old mother can

746
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 4: barely hear. She wears headsets on to a bluetooth headst

747
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: binge the entire thing. She if. She didn't talk about me,

748
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 4: she talked about everyone else.

749
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: If you like it, if you decide to do it

750
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: and you like it, please rite in about it. Because

751
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: you know, what we know is that social media is

752
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 3: the gift. And I'll tell you that before we leave.

753
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: The Queen of Social Media. When we started on nine

754
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: oh two, one oh and it started coming out with

755
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 3: Tory spelling, Queen of Social you like you knew stuff

756
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: about social media just before we even I did. Oh

757
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 3: my god, Tory, what, Oh, we're doing social media before

758
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: the whole craze of social media. You've been in the

759
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: universe for.

760
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 2: A long Are you calling me an og again?

761
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: Og? Baby?

762
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: It was like chat rooms, right, Yeah, you were doing

763
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: all of that.

764
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: You knew exactly what was going on. Like people were

765
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 3: saying about the show.

766
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: We're saying, yeah, and that started.

767
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: Wait you said they could people should write in where

768
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: how well?

769
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: I think that if you watched like on Amazon or

770
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: you go go on to.

771
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 4: You can it on Amazon?

772
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you rate it? That would be the best. When YouTube,

773
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: when it goes on YouTube television.

774
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: That'd be great.

775
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: No, and then just tell friends to watch it and

776
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: you know, really share what you think would be great

777
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: because that's how independent productions are going to grow. That's

778
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: what we want to support everybody. It's at part time

779
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: in the industry.

780
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 4: Right.

781
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: So if you like it and it already received an

782
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: award Best TV Show at the New York International Film Festival,

783
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: that's amazing. He's like, Oh, I forgot about.

784
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: That, So yes, that's exactly. So that's what you can do.

785
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 3: That would be awesome.

786
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: Well I hope everyone does.

787
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, please, because I want to see season two or more. Yeah,

788
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: I don't want to see you guys.

789
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: But we did we even address the fact that your

790
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: name in the show is say tell them your character, Gab.

791
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: Don't remember.

792
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: It's like a version of.

793
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: Adriana Adrian. Did you guys not feel the did you

794
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: that was that on purpose?

795
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah? It must have been right.

796
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: So we didn't We didn't talk about it, but we.

797
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: Didn't talk again. And I didn't talk about They said, Gabrielle, Mark, Gabrielle,

798
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: I'm doing this thing. You want to do it. It's

799
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: just sure. Absolutely.

800
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: One day of shooting, yeah, I'll do it.

801
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 3: It was really fun. And but I do have to

802
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: say I have uh watched and the acting is really

803
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: I think great. Visually it's beautiful.

804
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 4: The cast is pretty pretty terrific.

805
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: Careful.

806
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 2: So happy you guys.

807
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: Thank you both for for yeah, tuning into it from

808
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: your backyard there.

809
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: Thank you guys.

810
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: Thank you so good to see you.

811
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: Mark, hope to see you soon. Gab will see you

812
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 2: this weekend.

813
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: We're going to be We're going to be together in

814
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: North North Carolina.

815
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited.

816
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: I'm really excited. So see you there and I'll give

817
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: you hugs and love. Okay, all right, I'm going to

818
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 3: bring Mark one of the times we do an appearance,

819
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 3: so I want Mark to come. We need to please,

820
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: oh my god, everybody. If you want, you know, you

821
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: gotta right into those cons and say we want to

822
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: have some of the other cast members join in. Go ahead,

823
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: go ahead, go ahead. It's really a fun and beautiful

824
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: slugging it in.

825
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: All right, Love you both, Bye you guys, Thank you,

826
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: thank you, luck.

827
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Speaker 3: Take care by