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Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 2: It's to show that she is the secrets of success

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Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and branding expert Rashan McDonald. I

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Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And

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Speaker 2: in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know

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Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision make

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Speaker 2: because it's what he likes to do, it's what he

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Speaker 2: Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: There we go. Welcome, You heard him Rashaan McDonald. Like

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Speaker 1: what people say my name correctly? You know I always

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Speaker 1: tell people when you get my name right, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That means I've done something right in my life. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to money Making Conversation masterclass. I'm your host, Rashwan. Our

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Speaker 1: theme is there's no perfect time to start following your dreams.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people they sit around complaining about a

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Speaker 1: lot of things. They get frustrated about a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: If you just start, and if you start with a plan,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be all good. Because see, I recognize

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Speaker 1: that we all have different definitions of success for you, baby,

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Speaker 1: decide for your pack, check up your paycheck. Mine is

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Speaker 1: inspiring you to accomplish your goals and live your very

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Speaker 1: best life. It's time to stop reading other people's success

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Speaker 1: stories and start living your own. People always talk about

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Speaker 1: their purpose or gifts. I always talk about the gifts.

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Speaker 1: You hear people say gifts your gift. Leave with your gift,

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Speaker 1: and don't let your friends, family, or co worker stop

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Speaker 1: you from planning or living your dreams. So let's get

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Speaker 1: money making conversations started. I have a great show line

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Speaker 1: up tonight. I have two of my gospel friends on

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Speaker 1: the show today. The first part of the show be

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Speaker 1: led by Tasha Page Lockhart and the second half of

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Speaker 1: the show my boy Lacrez joining. So let's get started.

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Speaker 1: I guess Hell's from Detroit, Michigan. That's my first guest,

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Speaker 1: multi time vocalist Tasha Page Lockhart. Tasha is the daughter

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Speaker 1: of award winning gospel singer Lisa Page Books of the

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Speaker 1: female group Witness Tasha Page two time Stellar Award winners.

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Speaker 1: To start, we TV's Growing in Gospel. It's the first

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Speaker 1: seen all the episodes. We will hear her life and

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Speaker 1: some of the personal struggles with addiction and mental health issues,

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Speaker 1: pretty sure booking after I've seen this episode, these six episodes,

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Speaker 1: there's a book in her future. I'm just gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: something we will be talking about today for sure. Please

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Speaker 1: work with the Money Making Conversations masterclass for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Tasha Page Lockhart, how you doing, my.

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Speaker 3: Friend, I'm doing well. How were you?

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Speaker 4: Say? So?

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Speaker 1: If you're up in the Detroit you big d up

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm in Detroita. I'm born and raised here.

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Speaker 1: You know I've met there many times. You know, I

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Speaker 1: Some very familiar with Chicago and how has been renovated,

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Speaker 3: You know Detroit on the comeback. If you go to

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Speaker 3: You know Detroit, If I'm not mistaken, Detroit is about

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Speaker 1: So you had no choice. You had no choice but

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Speaker 3: You know, singing the most coveted talent and gift that

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take you on the journey real quick.

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Speaker 3: This is how my life has always been set up.

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Speaker 1: Well that's you know, that's important what you're saying, Tasha Page,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you have to perfect your craft. You can't just

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Speaker 7: Everything should not be taken personally. So I absolutely agree

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversation. I'm talking to Tasha

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is who I am? You know, this

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Speaker 3: or more, and you got a mic on you, sometimes

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Speaker 3: you're not thinking because you're like, Okay, I'm sitting here

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Speaker 3: with my BFF or this is my brother, this is

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Speaker 3: we're just talking. So that's why it's tricky with reality

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Speaker 3: TV US. They cannot edit something you never said. But

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Speaker 3: if it comes out of your mouth and you don't

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Speaker 3: have creative controller, you're nothing as one of the producers,

436
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Speaker 3: then you can't control how they edit or they do

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Speaker 3: a facial expression, or they clip something up and make

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Speaker 3: it seem like you said something that you didn't. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's really tricky and you have to use wisdom. You

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Speaker 3: gotta be cognizant of the fact that you know they

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Speaker 3: can make this look however they want to.

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Speaker 1: Right, So let me ask you this. So when you

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Speaker 1: with your husband trying to reconcile, right, trying to with

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Speaker 1: thoughts running through you through your mind, I got to

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Speaker 1: play it this way or was that an honest moment?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking you know, because because you know, things

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Speaker 1: can go sideways, like you said, whatever they capture on

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Speaker 1: fam whatever they capture on audio. You know, and this

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Speaker 1: relationship can go sideways when you walk into these scenes

451
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Speaker 1: and you know these are real scenes. You know that's

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Speaker 1: a man that you had a relationship, that was a

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Speaker 1: man you're trying to reconcile with Tasha. What goes in

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Speaker 1: your mind to protect who you are would also be

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Speaker 1: as real as possible.

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Speaker 3: In those moments, you're not thinking about protecting who you are.

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Speaker 3: You're just you're playing the moments out. It's you know,

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Speaker 3: you don't know what you're gonna say because there's no scripts.

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Speaker 3: It's real like if there's no scripts, you get you

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Speaker 3: get a time sheet in the morning. Sometimes you don't

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Speaker 3: even know where you're filming, so you get a time

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Speaker 3: sheet in the morning that says, this is what time

463
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Speaker 3: you're filming, this is the location. Sometimes you don't even

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Speaker 3: know who you're filming with, you know. With that thing

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Speaker 3: with him and I, we knew we were filming that scene,

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Speaker 3: but we avoided a lot of conversations because we wanted

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Speaker 3: it to be real, we wanted it to be natural.

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Speaker 3: And then we had a conversation prior to that when

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Speaker 3: we said, okay, these are the things that are off

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Speaker 3: the limits We're not going to talk about ex spouses,

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Speaker 3: we're not going to talk about children, We're now I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to bring up your church. It was just

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Speaker 3: certain things that we said, these will be off limits.

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Speaker 3: Let's keep the conversation focused on you and I. And

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Speaker 3: so those are some things that you have to do

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Speaker 3: when we out to be TV. But at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, I felt like a lot was accomplished

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Speaker 3: because we were able to show like, yeah, we're believers,

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Speaker 3: we're Christians, but we had our lives getting messy, we

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Speaker 3: make mistakes just like you. Such happened, and so I

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Speaker 3: was I was happy when I when I looked back

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Speaker 3: at it, I was a little nervous, But when at it,

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I'm proud of myself because

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Speaker 3: I did something that first of all, I'm a woman.

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Speaker 3: Number two, it's some men that wouldn't even go on

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Speaker 3: national television and admit to having an affair. So it's like, I.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't gonna say that, I ain't putting all your business

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Speaker 1: down in the streets.

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Speaker 3: Now all your business it's already on it's already on TV. Listen.

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Speaker 3: I ain't got no shame in my game.

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Speaker 1: It is what it is, you know, because y'all were

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Speaker 1: separated that when it happened, y'all was separated. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: go and get the facts right there. Separated.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we were separated, and now I did think we

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Speaker 3: were getting a divorced at the time we ended up getting.

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Speaker 3: But still I have to be held accountable for my actions.

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Speaker 3: There's no e for that. You're not divorced until you're divorced.

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Speaker 3: And I will not suggest or advise any person that

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Speaker 3: is separated or going through a divorce to give their

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Speaker 3: body to somebody else. You know, go through your healing process,

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Speaker 3: love on yourself, get hell, get whold, go through therapy,

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Speaker 3: do all of those things before you jump into another relationship,

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Speaker 3: because all you're doing is damaging yourself even more so.

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Speaker 3: You know, I know where I went wrong, and that

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Speaker 3: was a part of me coming on the show to

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Speaker 3: say I'm woman enough to admit when I've been wrong

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Speaker 3: and to apologize and keep it moving.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you something you're doing more than that.

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Speaker 1: You know you are so talented. I'm just gonna let

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Speaker 1: you know so talent, so gifted, You're such a great communicator.

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Speaker 1: What I know. We're wrapping up the interview here and

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Speaker 1: like I said, she called me wich, how long am

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Speaker 1: I talking? I can talk to you for an hour.

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Speaker 1: I swear to you that you know you are that

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Speaker 1: good of a storyteller, and you don't you know, I

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Speaker 1: can tell when I'm talking to people when they they're there,

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Speaker 1: they're couching their words and I don't want to say

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Speaker 1: that you're just talking, and you're smart enough to say.

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Speaker 1: This is how I'm an honest person. So I have

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Speaker 1: nothing to hide. And so with the stories of the

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Speaker 1: information I share with you is really on it. And

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Speaker 1: that came across from the show. So I know that

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Speaker 1: they got to be a book coming up. Are you're

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Speaker 1: going to write a book about your life that you've

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Speaker 1: experienced so far? What's the future for Tasha?

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Speaker 3: So I have one book that I put out a

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Speaker 3: few years ago. It's called h and the Winner is

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Speaker 3: Tasha Pay's Black Her Uncut. You can find that on Amazon.

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Speaker 3: But I am working on my second book and it's

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Speaker 3: called it's a work book attached to it and it's

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Speaker 3: called it's simply called do the Work, which is the

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Speaker 3: process that I've been going through over the past two

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Speaker 3: years after being separated and then going through a second divorce,

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Speaker 3: which has been very public. There's a lot of work

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Speaker 3: that has to be done. There's a lot of work

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Speaker 3: that should be done before marriage, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: work that should be done during marriage and after if

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Speaker 3: you go through a divorce or in a separation you

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Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be. And not just in marriage,

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Speaker 3: but in life. There is work that needs to be done.

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Speaker 3: Nothing comes easy, but if you put in the work,

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Speaker 3: there is a great new ward that you will receive.

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Speaker 3: And so that's what I want people to really grasp

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Speaker 3: the idea of you know, you can have all of

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Speaker 3: this vision and all of these ideas and say what

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Speaker 3: you want to do, but those things will not materialize

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Speaker 3: until you start putting in work.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Tasha, tell everybody about your handles, how they can

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Speaker 1: reach you all these good things. We wrap up this interview.

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Speaker 3: You can reach me on Instagram at Tasha page Lockhart

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Speaker 3: on Twitter at Pasha Lockhart. You can go to my

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Speaker 3: website Tplministries dot com, where you can get new merch

553
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Speaker 3: There you can sign up for a one on one

554
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Speaker 3: life coaching, consultations or vocal training or artist development. You

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Speaker 3: can actually buy my book on the website all things Tasha.

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Speaker 3: You can book me from the website again, that's Tplministries

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Speaker 3: dot com. Also, I'm going on tour. I'm excited. First

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Speaker 3: week in June, going on tour with a comedy and

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Speaker 3: his name is Travail Judd.

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Speaker 1: You're going to be merging.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going on tour and we're going to be

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Speaker 3: merging comedy with music. And I'm excited to premiere new

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Speaker 3: music that's coming out in July and to sing some

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Speaker 3: of your Sunday best favorites. And you can get the

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Speaker 3: tickets now, go to this is Me Tour dot net.

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Speaker 3: This is Me Tour dot net and find your city there.

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Speaker 3: And we're adding more cities because we're going to be

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Speaker 3: going all the way into August with the tour. So

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about that.

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Speaker 1: Cool. I want to thank you for coming to my show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I got to come back because I want to do

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Speaker 1: some more things with you this summer. If you have time,

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Speaker 1: please let me know, Okay, because you're fantastic, You're amazing, and.

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Speaker 3: Again, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations master Class.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tasha Paige Lockart, Bye bye, my friend, well,

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Speaker 1: I told you it's going to be a spirited show.

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Speaker 1: I got my gospel's friends on the show coming up next.

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Speaker 1: He has to be my fourth time interview in this

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Speaker 1: young brother. We like friends. First time I interviewed him,

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Speaker 1: we'll actually first time I song was in Houston at

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl event and I realized that guy's gifted.

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Speaker 1: His name is La Crate. Be right back with more.

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Speaker 1: They call him a Christian rapper. I call him a

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Speaker 1: brother who's doing things and changing the world. The Crate

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Speaker 1: right back after this break with Shawn McDonald money Making comers.

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Speaker 1: He's a masterclass.

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Speaker 5: We'll be right back with more money making conversations. Masterclass

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Speaker 5: with Rushawn McDonald. HBCUs represent Black excellence.

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Speaker 8: If you attend or are an alumnus of an HBCU,

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Speaker 5: Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashaun

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Speaker 5: McDonald outside.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, Kurt Franklin, I know very well. This

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Speaker 1: is my next guess is one of the honest rappers

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Speaker 1: in the game. He's a Christian Rapper's name is La Crag.

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Speaker 1: He's recognized as the first artist to have an album

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Speaker 1: hit the charts at number one for both the Billboard

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Speaker 1: two hundred and the Gospel Charts simultaneous, a multi Grammary

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Speaker 1: Award winning platinum. All this New York Times bestselling author

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Speaker 1: interviewed him on that book, Tremendous, The Crazy workers, fueled

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Speaker 1: by building bridges, changing narrative, empowering a different franchise, and

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Speaker 1: restoring the dignity of those who are lost. We were

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Speaker 1: discussing his gospel career, mental health in the black community,

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Speaker 1: which we don't talk about enough, his controversial collaboration with

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Speaker 1: Blessings with my man Tie Dollar sign cause I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to figure that out because I've heard it so many times,

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Speaker 1: trying to figure that out. His new single Your Power

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Speaker 1: with Tasha Cobbs was released in time for May Mental

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Speaker 1: health awareness mark to create dialogue around depression therapy and

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Speaker 1: talk about the pressure of being an ideal role model.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot to unpack. Please, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Look, Craig, how you doing, My.

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Speaker 4: Brother, what's going on? It's all good man, all is well.

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Speaker 4: I can't complain. I'm grateful to be here, appreciate you

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Speaker 4: having me on.

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Speaker 1: We know just about the fourth or fifth interview as

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Speaker 1: as saying a fourth and every time, I always go

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Speaker 1: back to when I first saw you and in Houston,

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Speaker 1: and there was a all those things church. It was

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Speaker 1: a think the Super Bowl Gospel celebration that was taping it,

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Speaker 1: and you came down that and I've never seen you

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Speaker 1: and all I can remember, and I would probably every

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Speaker 1: time I interviewed, I aways bringing up because you know,

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Speaker 1: when you see something and I'm just telling you look

643
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Speaker 1: crazy when you see something special, you have to keep

644
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: reminding people because you get hit all the time and

645
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: we kind of get wolled down and we kind of like,

646
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you've lost focus, but you know, you

647
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: tend to like get sway from what you your purpose.

648
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: Your purpose is to impact people like me. I'm not

649
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: an everyday church goer. You know. I probably clothes I

650
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: go to church with. When my wife she says grace

651
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: and I say amen, that's that's that's my regular going

652
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: to church, you know. And and when I do other church,

653
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: I understand the value of going to church when I'm

654
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: in that church. And you affected me, brother, with your talents,

655
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: with your gifts and every word. I hung on it

656
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: and it still impacts me today when I when I

657
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: see you and I hear you talking to these interviews,

658
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: it's always not just you rapping, but you're about the

659
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: community and you're about uplift. Tell everybody about La Craze.

660
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I can only be authentically me.

661
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 4: And you know, I wasn't raised in the church. That's

662
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 4: not my background, you know. So I wanted to create

663
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 4: tools and music and experiences for people like myself. You

664
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: know what was what would raise my eyebrows and helped

665
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 4: me realize that, you know, my faith is is bigger

666
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: than four walls. My faith is bigger than uh, you know,

667
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 4: white gloves and hats, and so I really wanted to

668
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 4: create something for folks like that, and that's kind of

669
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: what has been driving me ever since. So I want

670
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: to be in different realms, you know. You you see

671
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: me in the prisons, the detention centers. You see me

672
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: on on the court side, you know, talking to my

673
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: NBA players or my NFL players. You'll see me, you know,

674
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 4: mixing it up, you know, at different environments. But again,

675
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be in the church as well, because I'm

676
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: trying to be well rounded.

677
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: We know, it's really interesting. I always tell people that,

678
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, when you meet somebody special, sometimes you don't

679
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: even know how to talk to him. The very first

680
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: time I interviewed the Cray was probably the most difficult

681
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: interview because I didn't really know how comfortable I could

682
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: be with him because he was you know, it's like,

683
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a I'm a fan of hip hop,

684
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Godspel. It was the first time

685
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: I interviewed a Christian rapper, a rapper of hip hop.

686
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: So so my whole conversation was like, okay, because you know,

687
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: because rap has that that the history of you know,

688
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: a tough violence. Uh, getting that bank, getting that bag,

689
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,239
Speaker 1: you know women in video, that's what that That's what

690
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: when you say the word rapper, you say the word

691
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: hip hop, that's what it entails. Do you fight that?

692
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 4: Is that?

693
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: Is that something that you did that when people when

694
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: you say you're a Christian rapper, that you have to

695
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: that you have to deal with As far as being stereotyped.

696
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you dealt with it a lot early on,

697
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: but then you realize, you know, and let me just

698
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: the narrative. If people think, you know, all black people

699
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: are criminals, I'm not gonna walk around saying well, I'm

700
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 4: not black. You know, I'm gonna change your perspective. You know,

701
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna change your perspective of what a black person is.

702
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: And so when you come across me, uh, you know,

703
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 4: you're gonna say, well what I thought that they were all, well, yeah,

704
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: you thought wrong, you know, and so, uh, you may

705
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 4: have some perceptions about what what what a rapper who's

706
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 4: a Christian looks like or a Christian rapper and how

707
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 4: they move and how they get down. Uh, but allow

708
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 4: me to reintroduce myself.

709
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: And so so you know, I had ta page Lockhart

710
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: early on the earlier part of the show. And you know,

711
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: it's got like my church day to day, my gospel

712
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: day to day, because y'all have different styles, you know,

713
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: and which is really awesome. And you know she grew

714
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: up in the church. You know, her mom was a

715
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: church you know, so it was no options for you

716
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: for her to go in that direction. How did you

717
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: get in this direction? First of all, I can understand

718
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: the hip hop game, but how did you get part

719
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: of it get played into the hip hop game with

720
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: you look great?

721
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, you know I was always a free thinking individual.

722
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 4: You know. My mother was was raised in the church

723
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: and she was a face some abuse, you know, some

724
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: church her. So she didn't want me to experience that.

725
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 4: So she raised me to think freely to philosophy, you know, philosophy,

726
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 4: and I started just exploring different views and and and

727
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: I knew that I had purpose, you know. And so

728
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 4: if you know you got purpose, that means, you know,

729
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 4: purposes must come from somewhere. You can't just be a

730
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: cosmic accident, just a product of a big bang and

731
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: you think you got purpose. So purpose had to be

732
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 4: given to me from somewhere. So I started just investigating

733
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 4: where that was and what that looked like. And so

734
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 4: I was on a college campus and decided to, uh,

735
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 4: you know, it was a young lady. It's always a

736
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 4: young lady. Uh you know, you know, hey, but she, uh,

737
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 4: she invited me to a Bible study. I said, you know,

738
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: I let me go in and check it out. And

739
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 4: and you know, they blew my mind because they did.

740
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 4: They looked like me, they dressed like me, they talked

741
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 4: like me, and I did not expect that. And so

742
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: I hung around a little longer, and before long, you know,

743
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: I met God in that group of people. And and

744
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 4: then it would turned into like, well, man, you know,

745
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 4: I can express myself through rap music amongst these folks.

746
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: So they were people just like me, right, and they

747
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: loved it.

748
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, now now that's that's that's God.

749
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 4: You know.

750
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: We went to the meeting. That's what I love talking

751
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: to you, and Kirk, I love talking to because you

752
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: just really kind of like talking at least say you know,

753
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: it's like woman that was a girl. You know, because

754
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: so many people in the in the church game don't

755
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: want to tell the truth. They don't want to tell

756
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: you that journey all the time, and the journey is

757
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: everyday life journey. Like you know, like Steve Harvey used

758
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: to always say, you know, uh, act like church people

759
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: don't have sex. They got some church kids from somewhere. Okay,

760
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: they came from somewhere. And now so let's go and

761
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: be honest. Now, when we were talking about you and

762
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: this whole part of the process. Now you you're around

763
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: the group of people. Now you wrapping the them. You're

764
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: breaking lyrics off. Now when did they When did somebody

765
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 1: come and go, brother, you got something here. You gotta

766
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: you can step this up to the next level here,

767
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: you know, because we all know that that this this

768
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: industry is tied to money. Lookret and we know that

769
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: the direction you were going ain't the big money maker

770
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: in the hip hop game. You know, they you know,

771
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: they're not saying that you broke but you know what

772
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: a hip hop game. It's the number one streaming format

773
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: in the world is hip hop music. And I've talked

774
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: to enough gospel artists to know what is a what

775
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: is what is a big seller in the gospel game.

776
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: Did that come into play? Did people tell you, man,

777
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: you need to take your skills over to the hip

778
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: hop side instead of the Christian side? What was What

779
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: was your people telling you and why did you stand

780
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: strong in the Christian rap side?

781
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I had some individuals, you know, I obviously

782
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 4: had uh, the producers and the DJs who said, hey,

783
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: I like what you're doing, and I think, you know,

784
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 4: you might want to try this on the mainstream side.

785
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 4: You know, that may be a better look for you, right.

786
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 4: But but there was a young man, you know, he

787
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: was older than me at the time, and he was

788
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 4: into uh ironically, he was in the money management. He

789
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: was a financial advisor, and I really respected him because

790
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 4: I had never met, you know, a young black financial

791
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: advisor before. It was it was new to me, and

792
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: I really respected him. And he told me, he said, hey, man,

793
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 4: you really have a talent, and you know, I think

794
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 4: God can use you if you really, you know, put

795
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 4: some structure around this and begin to build on it.

796
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 4: And so, man, that lit a fire on me because

797
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: he was somebody I respected. You know, he had this

798
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: stuff together. Because I was nervous, you know, I was like, Man,

799
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 4: should I pursue this rap thing? I don't know, but

800
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 4: he gave me the encouragement to do it.

801
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's really interesting because the whole thing

802
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: that people need to understand it is that, you know,

803
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: I always tell people there's a forking roll and the anything.

804
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of people in jail

805
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: because they took the wrong fork in the roll. We

806
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: all make these decisions, and whether you can walk that

807
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: decision back I don't know. But when you make the decision,

808
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: I always say, give a hundred percent. And that's what

809
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: you did. You gave a hundred percent when you start

810
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: breaking through those walls and started realizing that you can

811
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: have a career out of this, because that's the next

812
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: step in. And I remember when I started doing stand

813
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: up comedy. I was just doing stand up comedy for fun,

814
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: look great, and then I realized, you know, some of

815
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: these people paying me a check to do this. Then

816
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: I realized, you know something, I on TV doing this

817
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: and I realized, you know something, people showing up to

818
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: see me tell jokes, I can make a career to this.

819
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: But before that, it was a lot of it was

820
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: a lot of dollars. Look great, boy, you're gonna leave

821
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: IB be able to do what You better lead that

822
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: good job. You better lead that good job. You ain't

823
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: that funny. You ain't that funny? You know those dollars man.

824
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: And that's that's when I started wondering in the whole process.

825
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: That's when faith come in it. You know, your belief,

826
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: You know that you have to that you have to

827
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: to lock in and otherwise what are you what are

828
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,479
Speaker 1: you fighting? Because there's so many people can like jump

829
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: into your lane and say, like you said, DJ talking

830
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 1: about hey man, money over here, bag over here, over here? Yeah,

831
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: but money over here. You know, those type of people

832
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: are really dangerous because in the end, we all know

833
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna fall. Will they be there to help you

834
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: stand up? That's what you have to realize, am I right?

835
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 4: That's right? You you nailed it. That's a big piece

836
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: of it. And you know, even my mother was a

837
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 4: little nervous, you know. And and because of the fact

838
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: that I had a nine to five, and I, you know,

839
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: was was getting a severance check. But like you said,

840
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: I started doing show after show and I knew, you know,

841
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 4: I had a budget, and I knew, Okay, let me

842
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: see how much is rent? Okay, this show pay for rent?

843
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: This could take care Okay, all right? And now you

844
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 4: know I planned it out a little bit and then

845
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: I made it. I made that leap of faith, like

846
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 4: you said.

847
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: And this a powerful leaf, ladies. And Jen, you know,

848
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: I love bringing on individuals who you know because of

849
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: the fact that when I when I talked to little Crape,

850
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: because he's younger than me, I always I loved because

851
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna walk in my shoes. He's gonna he gonna

852
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: make some mistakes I made, and he's gonna live through

853
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: those mistakes and he's gonna learn that he's a better

854
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: man for it. I always tell people, in order to

855
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: be successful, you gotta make a mistake, because that way

856
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Speaker 1: you won't make that mistake tright. Nowf you make it

857
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: two or three times, you're not a successful person anymore.

858
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: But as you go through that path and that process,

859
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: the arrows and the slings that come at you. And

860
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: because the last time we talked about we talked about money.

861
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Speaker 1: The last time I interviewed him, he was doing a

862
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Speaker 1: web series called Protect the Bag, so that means that

863
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: he understands money with all people were telling him, no, man,

864
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: you're taking the risk. No man, don't leave that job,

865
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: No man, go hip hop. Years later you been you

866
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: getting paid to talk about money and financial literacy.

867
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 4: Wow, right, that's right, that's right, you nailed it. And again,

868
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 4: you know, that's why you got to stay on the

869
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: pathway that you believe you're supposed to be on, because,

870
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Speaker 4: like you said, those people who are doubting you, they're

871
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 4: not gonna pay your bills and they're not gonna be

872
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 4: there for you, you know, to celebrate the wins with you.

873
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: So you know, it's kind of like, hey man, you

874
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you gotta make a choice.

875
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 4: And it's what I tell a lot of my youngins.

876
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 4: I tell them, I say, hey, you know nothing, at

877
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: some point in time, you're gonna have to take a risk,

878
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: you know, make it a calculated risk, and make it worthwhile.

879
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: But don't put too much pressure on yourself, especially if

880
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 4: you're in your early mid twenties. You know, if you

881
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 4: can make a couple of mistakes at twenty two. If

882
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: you make mistakes for three years at twenty two years old,

883
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 4: you're still gonna be in your twenties by the time.

884
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: You know, you realize what's going on, So you know,

885
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 4: keep trying.

886
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: You know, that's so powerful, that's so powerful. When we

887
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: come back, I got to talk to you as a

888
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: pressure release to hit the wire. He called his PR

889
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: person and involved the song Your Power and involved Tasha Cobb.

890
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: When we come back and go talk about that, and

891
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: it was the funny story. I called Jackie Old, that's

892
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: his PR person. I said, I got to interview my

893
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: boy La Craye. She said he don't do nothing at

894
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: the five point thirty. I said, wow, I said, he asked.

895
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: She called me back the crill do your show. This

896
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: is my boy right here. This is my boy. That's

897
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: why he's on the show. If you're right back for

898
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 1: more from my man, La Craig, we'll.

899
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 5: Be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with

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00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 5: Rashawn McDonald.

901
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Speaker 6: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute

902
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 6: of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald.

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Speaker 1: This week, I sat down with Media Mobile, Hollywood executive

904
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: and philanthropist Nick Cannon. Although the former child star has

905
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: experienced a long career of success, when no signs of

906
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: slowing down. He explains why he's so pass about creating

907
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: opportunities for others.

908
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 9: It's all about the community. For me, it's about giving

909
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 9: other people opportunities. It's about opening doors and sharing their knowledge,

910
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 9: wealth and wisdom that I've obtained with everyone else. I mean,

911
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 9: you know, obviously I'm still in school. Hopefully, you know,

912
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 9: I'll be able to you know, Hu Howard University. I

913
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 9: want to go all the way on getting my masters,

914
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 9: want to go to my doctorate and eventually be a

915
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 9: professor and teach the things that I've picked up along

916
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 9: the way. But it's all about the community, whether it's teaching,

917
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,479
Speaker 9: whether it's entertaining, whether it's investing into us.

918
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: If you want to listen to this full interview with

919
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon, it's available on Money Making Conversations dot com.

920
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 5: Now let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashaan McDonald.

921
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm back on this. Rashwan McDonald speaking to Locrat.

922
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: He's recognized as the first artist to have an album

923
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: to hit the charts at number one in both Billboard

924
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: two hundred and the Gospel Charge. That's right. He's a

925
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Speaker 1: multi multi Grammar Warard winning the Artists New York Times

926
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Speaker 1: Bestselling art But it's a press release that I saw

927
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: that came across my wire talking about the song Your Power,

928
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: which is fantastic, by the way, I listened to it

929
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: several times and with Tasha Cobbs and was talking about

930
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: the church community, dealing with stereotypes, dealing with people expecting

931
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: certain things to be a certain way, and certain gospel

932
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: church people act a certain way. Can you break it

933
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: down and can in details. It's your show, it's your forum.

934
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: I just wanted to understand what's going on in the

935
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: world and why there was a need for you and

936
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: Tasha to get together.

937
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, you know, Tasha and I are very vocal

938
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Speaker 4: about mental health. We both had struggles with mental health

939
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: that we wanted to be public about because black folks

940
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: don't talk about it as much as we need to.

941
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 4: And then, you know, some of the blowback that both

942
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 4: of us have received from you know, certain church folks

943
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 4: about our collaborations with Nicki Minaj and mine with Todd

944
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 4: Dollar Sign, you know, created some unnecessary tension and pressure

945
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 4: and you know, you don't realize that that stuff just

946
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 4: keeps piling up and piling up, and no public figure

947
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 4: deserves to be as celebrated or criticized as we are.

948
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: And so that stuff can tend to mess with your psyche.

949
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 4: And so we just decided to take control of that

950
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Speaker 4: and to take you know, our mental health back into

951
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Speaker 4: our own hands.

952
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Speaker 1: It was really interesting now because I do it. I

953
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Speaker 1: do a lot of episodes on mental health and anxiety

954
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Speaker 1: and stress and depression. And on the show, my wife

955
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: was listening and I said to it, and I said,

956
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: on the show, I deal with depression, and she and

957
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: she and you do. Just this last week, she said,

958
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Speaker 1: I never know you dealt with any depression. And this

959
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: is where this is the problem with the black community.

960
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: And you know, I've been with my wife since eighty

961
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: two and she's never heard me say depression or anything.

962
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: And she and she and I explained her. I said, well,

963
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Speaker 1: I just deal with it. I just I said, I'm

964
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, I've been black all my life. I said,

965
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: when I get out the car, I still get nervous

966
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: of the police officers just say hello to me because

967
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Speaker 1: I have doubts. So I said, there's a natural lane

968
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: of stress that I'm gonna deal with. And I said,

969
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: and when you're an entertainment business, explain it. Depression is

970
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: part of that because there are no guarantees. And entertainment

971
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: business is the worst because you can be riding high,

972
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: walk in the room if somebody can tell you you're

973
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: not the one, and boy, that would not cure. You

974
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: don't know where to go to recover from that. And

975
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: so I said, it's something about entertainment. I said, when

976
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: you're doing a regular job, forty hour week job, that's different.

977
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: I said, when you're entertainment, your hides and loads can

978
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: be extreme. You can be you can walk off the

979
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: stage to a to a standing ovation and go to

980
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 1: the next city and they're not even looking They looking

981
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 1: like you that they've never seen you. Tell a joke,

982
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: a singal, a rap song. And I said, that is

983
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: what I dealt with all my life. And so and

984
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: also when you're dealing in a in a in a

985
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: lifestyle that so many people question your decisions, so many people,

986
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: you know, question what you do because you know what

987
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: you can say, this look crazy. I can't tell people

988
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do tomorrow. If somebody asked me, okay, Rishille,

989
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do tomorrow. I know, I got a

990
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: lot of things I'm gonna do, but I can't tell you.

991
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: Like if you was a bank teller, you could tell

992
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: us what you're gonna do. If you drove trucks, you

993
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: can tell us what you're gonna do. If you are

994
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: a scientist, you can tell us we won't do. But

995
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur in the entertainment business, there's no lines

996
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: of description that you can say when I wake up,

997
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: this is my day, right or wrong?

998
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. No, Yeah, I mean it fluctuates

999
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: from from day to day, and you know, you can

1000
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: try to build in some kind of consistency, but at

1001
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you know, different things come

1002
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 4: up and different things happening, so you got to make amends,

1003
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 4: you got to you know, move accordingly, and so yeah,

1004
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: that can create stress. And again, you know, we we

1005
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 4: were taught not to talk about those types of things.

1006
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 4: I mean, once upon a time we weren't even allowed

1007
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: to talk about the right thing. They tapped in Martin

1008
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 4: Luther King's phone so he couldn't tell better let anybody

1009
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 4: know what he was going through and so you know,

1010
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 4: that stuff just goes on and on down the line,

1011
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 4: where today we know it's kind of like we got

1012
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 4: so many things to deal with. We don't talk about

1013
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 4: what's going on mentally and emotionally, and you know, it

1014
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 4: hinders us from being healthy. So so music has been

1015
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 4: a part of our healing regiment. And that's why I'm

1016
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 4: grateful to be able to be a musician because I

1017
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 4: can create some medicine for some folks. I mean, you

1018
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 4: still might need to go to the doctor.

1019
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: Right right, because because that's really the problem in our community,

1020
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: because we I would tell people that in the first

1021
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: of all, I don't jump hard on people who who

1022
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: are slow in understanding that you need to go to

1023
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: a doctor because of the fact that we know we're

1024
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: the first hired, last five, you know, first first, last hire,

1025
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: first fire. Okay, so we always I remember when I

1026
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: looked crazy when I had cancer. You know, I didn't

1027
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: even know if I could reveal that because it might

1028
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: cost me my career, It might cost me a job.

1029
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: People might look at my age and cancer and think

1030
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm not hiring that dude anymore. So as a person

1031
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: of color, there's so many things that we have to

1032
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: consider before we tell somebody I need help. It's so

1033
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: many things we consider before we tell somebody that, and

1034
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: it might come across as a sign of weakness of

1035
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: people who you consider your friends might shy away from

1036
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: you because they don't know how to deal with you.

1037
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: And they might use the word, you know, the street word.

1038
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: He crazy, He crazy, I don't know, he acting strange.

1039
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: And so those are the things that before I jump

1040
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: down there and go hey man, black people, they're the

1041
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: words black people. They got mental problem. Theyn't want to

1042
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: talk about it. People need to step back as a

1043
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: black man. I'm just talking for myself now, this a

1044
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: black woman. Brother. I've been dealing with a lot. I

1045
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: know I've had jobs I should have gotten. You know,

1046
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: there are better comedy writers out there that I were

1047
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: better better there, and I should they got a development deal,

1048
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: but they got it. I know that are comedy shows.

1049
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: I should have been the headline and I was the

1050
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: middle act. I know there are checks that should have

1051
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 1: been bigger for me, but I didn't get it. All

1052
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 1: those things I have to just as they say, suck

1053
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: it up and move on. That is entertainment, and that

1054
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: can lead you to depression.

1055
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,959
Speaker 4: That's right, and you nailed the hammer on the head,

1056
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 4: and we got to do a better job at navigating

1057
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 4: those things and helping other people find freedom. And so that's,

1058
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 4: you know, exactly what I aim to do. That's what

1059
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 4: I make it my mission to do is to help

1060
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 4: people find freedom. Whether that's music, whether that is you know, conversation,

1061
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 4: whatever it is, that's what I want to do.

1062
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: What you know, the thing about it is that when

1063
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: we talk to crazy, I'm not trying to depress anybody.

1064
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: I have energy in my voice. And when I'm talking

1065
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: to you have energy because we've we've had so many conversations.

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Speaker 1: When I when I had you on the show about

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Speaker 1: your book, You Can't Get Anymore inst in that book?

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Speaker 1: Was that became a New York Times bestseller? Well, we

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Speaker 1: talked that was a different conversation. We talked about, you know,

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Speaker 1: protect the bag. That was a different conversation. Now we're

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Speaker 1: talking about mental health. How can we get our black

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Speaker 1: community to start raising their hand? How can we help

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Speaker 1: them out?

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Speaker 4: La Craig, Well, we you know, we got to follow

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Speaker 4: follow some of our leaders, Taraji p Henson, the Rock, uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, Michelle Williams, you know myself. You know, these

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Speaker 4: are weird individuals who are being vocal about this because

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Speaker 4: we're letting you know that you're not alone. And so

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Speaker 4: you what, what do you have to be ashamed of?

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Speaker 4: What can you lose? You know by being honest with

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Speaker 4: yourself about getting some healing. You know you I'm not

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Speaker 4: telling you to tell the world. I'm telling you to

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Speaker 4: tell your doctor. You know what I mean. And so

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Speaker 4: you know, what do you have to lose? You have

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Speaker 4: everything to gain. And I can tell you on this

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Speaker 4: side of Grammys and billboards and all these awards acolade

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Speaker 4: that I'm better for it. No, you got nothing to

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Speaker 4: lose and everything in the game.

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Speaker 1: Now the single Your Power? How did that come about?

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Speaker 5: That?

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Speaker 1: You deal with Tasha Cobb?

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Speaker 4: So, so, Tasha heard some of my music and historically

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Speaker 4: and we talked about doing something together, and I thought, man,

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Speaker 4: that's gonna be an interesting mashup, you know, with you

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Speaker 4: being traditional gospel and me being rapped. But we found

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Speaker 4: the right music in the right you know, kind of

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Speaker 4: combination and it became something special.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: And now.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm trying to get some some clarity on this

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Speaker 1: this this controversy with Blessings, did you deal with Todd

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Speaker 1: dollars side. That was twenty seventeen, right, yeah, man, twenty

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Speaker 1: sevent I'll tell you something. I'm telling because I do

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Speaker 1: this star back then because I loved it. Now I

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Speaker 1: went did he do a remix? Did he what? Because

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Speaker 1: I went before that, before the All day to day,

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Speaker 1: I've been going through Google. I've been going through all

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Speaker 1: the search engines trying to find why are they hanging

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Speaker 1: on this song? Why blessings?

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Speaker 4: You know, I wish I knew. I wish I knew.

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Speaker 4: You know, they just keep trying to find. But that's

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Speaker 4: how that's how it is. You know, you must be

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Speaker 4: doing something right if people looking for something wrong with

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Speaker 4: what you got going on. So you know, just you know,

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Speaker 4: for me, I just keep pushing.

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Speaker 1: We'm gonna tell you something.

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Speaker 4: Brother.

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Speaker 1: Listen to me. Man, you are one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: people of Creamy. And last time we talked, we talked,

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Speaker 1: I supposed to come by your building and you supposed

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Speaker 1: to come by my building. Now this time we gotta

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Speaker 1: make it happen. And then every time I talk to you, man,

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Speaker 1: we gotta do something together, man for the community event together.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm just telling everybody right now, because

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Speaker 1: every time I talk to him, I get closer and

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Speaker 1: closer to his brother to understand that he's just a

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Speaker 1: younger version of me. Y'all, He's just a younger version

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Speaker 1: of me, and Lord have mercy. We gotta do something

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Speaker 1: about that. I gotta meet the younger version of me.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling my young twin, and let's make a difference.

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Speaker 1: Because you're special, brother, and I love you for that.

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Speaker 4: Man, Man, I appreciate you. It's an honor and.

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Speaker 1: A pleasure, just the one and only. Look Gray, thank

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Speaker 1: you for thank you for making time. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: giving me a little time out after five thirty. Look

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Speaker 1: crag five thirty to talk to me, man, But you

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Speaker 1: stay blessed brother, and we'll talk soon. Man, I'm very serious.

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Speaker 1: I owe you a visit to your building.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Talk to your son. Let's look Craye. Everybody an incredible guy.

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Speaker 1: Single I call your Power with Tasha Cobbs. And if

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Speaker 1: you want to hear a great song, listen to Blessing.

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Speaker 1: It's a really, really great song by Todd Dollars. Sign

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Speaker 1: came out in twenty seventeen. There's no controversy at all.

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Speaker 1: This is Rashan McDonald. I love you, I love everybody

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Speaker 1: who listened to my show, and I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: see the growth. Hope you guys understand this show is

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Speaker 1: about you. I'm just I'm coming from different angles and

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Speaker 1: try to reach all people by entrepreneurship, by motivating, by

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Speaker 1: playing your next dream. That's what we're doing. But more importantly,

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. This

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Speaker 1: is Rashan McDonald. I'm out.

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