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Speaker 3: Good morning, Sweer and Welcome to the Not Dungs Podcast

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Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, January eighteenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: from last night. Happy anniversary to you gentlemen here part

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Speaker 1: First game. Fun for Scotty Barnes. The next forty games

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Speaker 4: Day, not a ton not a ton of thoughts here,

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Speaker 4: But it is funny they you said, twenty threes last

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Speaker 3: Some nights, some nights they're not so yeah, they get

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Speaker 3: Let's move to some other games from last night. We

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Speaker 1: a time out without the jumping down, so he was

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Speaker 1: just standing there kind of signaling for it. So the

431
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Speaker 1: referee didn't really look at it. And Johntay Murray comes

432
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Speaker 1: down and banks home a shot.

433
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Speaker 3: So to shy too, really contested.

434
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, it wasn't It wasn't quite the celebration

435
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 1: I thought, and Trey came over to him, but they

436
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Speaker 1: didn't really. He was still pissed about the time out.

437
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 1: That was just a whole weird ending in an odd

438
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Speaker 1: game because trade. Not only that did he do that,

439
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 1: but with the magic down three and Jalen Sugs at

440
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 1: the free throw line minute left, Treyung lines up in

441
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 1: the free throw area, standing there. In first free throw,

442
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 1: he jumps in, you know, he just tries to throw

443
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Speaker 1: off Jalen Sugs. Then for the second free throw, he

444
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 1: gets out of there because he's not lining up anymore.

445
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Speaker 1: They were able to get another free throw opportunity Wendell

446
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Speaker 1: Carter first free throw opportunity, Tree Young again lining up,

447
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 1: this time back turned to the free throw area, complete

448
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 1: back to the area. Wendell Carter shoots his first three

449
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Speaker 1: throw and that's when Trey Young turns around and jumps

450
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Speaker 1: in the area to try and throw him off. Didn't

451
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Speaker 1: work again a second free throw, he got the heck

452
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Speaker 1: out over there again and he hit a couple of

453
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Speaker 1: free throws on the other end to make it a

454
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Speaker 1: three point game before ban Caro hit his three. It

455
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: is a weird thing that Trey Young also handshakes Jalen

456
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 1: Johnson after every free throw, like a full handshake, not

457
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Speaker 1: a high five. Why do you want a handshake on

458
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Speaker 1: the floor. That's weird to me. That's just too much

459
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Speaker 1: that's too much involvement. You want to hold you want

460
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Speaker 1: to coordinated handshake on the floor. That's strange too.

461
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 5: After a free throw, yeah, I mean going into a game,

462
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Speaker 5: after basically anything in the game, he'll do a full

463
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Speaker 5: handshake that we've got ready for this.

464
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Speaker 1: But it was cool to see, you know. Besides the

465
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Speaker 1: turnovers that the Hawks were able to, they're they're like

466
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 1: the mirror of each other. Hawks got a good offense,

467
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: bad defense. The Magic are the exact opposite.

468
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Speaker 4: Uh.

469
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Speaker 1: They struggle a little bit offensively, but they've got a

470
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Speaker 1: great defense and they held on because the Magic just

471
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Speaker 1: weren't able to win it right at the end.

472
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Speaker 4: Any notes on this, The Magic offense is scary and

473
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Speaker 4: a not good. The fourth quarter was pretty brutal to

474
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Speaker 4: watch on the offensive side of the ball for the Magic.

475
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 4: For the most part, it was Paolo shooting step back jumpers,

476
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Speaker 4: shooting settling because he's playing out there with Jalen Suggs,

477
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Speaker 4: Markel Foltz, Chumokki and Wendal Carter Junior, who still does

478
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Speaker 4: not look at the rim when he catches. He hasn't

479
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 4: looked at the rim since he catches the ball at

480
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Speaker 4: the fifteen foot free throw line since he played for

481
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Speaker 4: the Bulls. Just look, man, you can shoot it, but

482
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Speaker 4: there is nobody out there that can create a shot

483
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Speaker 4: outside Apollo. Sometimes he's able to get to the rim,

484
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 4: which is great, but otherwise he's having to settle for jumpers.

485
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Speaker 4: And he hit the big one to tie the game,

486
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Speaker 4: which you know, at least gave the Hawks a chance

487
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Speaker 4: to not have to call time out even though they

488
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Speaker 4: say they were trying to call timeout.

489
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Speaker 3: Who knows.

490
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Speaker 4: They got a good shot out of it. It went down,

491
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Speaker 4: and you know, I think a good win for the Hawks.

492
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Speaker 4: After a couple of really bad games over the weekend,

493
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Speaker 4: they bounce back with two nice wins here, getting one

494
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Speaker 4: in the clutch. That was great from Atlanta. But the

495
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Speaker 4: Magic need Franz Wagner back asap. He's been out for

496
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Speaker 4: quite some time with an ankle injury. And they got

497
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 4: to make a move because their best perimeter players right

498
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 4: now are Cole Anthony and Joe Ingles. Like they have

499
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Speaker 4: to have Cole Anthony or Joe Ingles in handling the

500
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Speaker 4: ball to get decent shots. Not getting good shots, but

501
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 4: they're getting decent shots at least when those guys are

502
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 4: out there. Obviously, the deep fence falls off one they

503
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 4: take the court, but the mix for the magic right now,

504
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 4: it ain't great. That's why Gogo Paitaza is having such

505
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 4: a great season. He can hit the offensive glass and

506
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 4: there are a lot of opportunities.

507
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Speaker 3: Right, a lot of missshots. There two huge dunks in

508
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Speaker 3: this game, which was nice. I almost went down to

509
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: the fortress to watch this game. We ultimately decided not to.

510
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 3: We had all that Siakam news going on and Jared,

511
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: our friend, I said, wow, what a game, what an ending? He'

512
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Speaker 3: said the game sucked until the ending. Yeah, He's like

513
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: it was gross. Yeah, the Hawks had twenty three turnovers,

514
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 3: sloppy play, fun ending with the shots being made, but

515
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Speaker 3: you had to sit through forty five minutes of pretty

516
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Speaker 3: brutal basketball to get there. Anyway. Two big dunks Jalen Johnson,

517
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Speaker 3: big Johnson, excuse me, huge dunk and a little stare

518
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: down there on go go right, Yeah, put him in

519
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 3: the rim. And then Cole Anthony had a nice dunk

520
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: where he got up high, sort of going baseline. Also

521
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Speaker 3: had Anthony Edwards throwing down our beautiful dunk last night

522
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Speaker 3: against the Pistons. Good night for highlights, Good night, for

523
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Speaker 3: even despite some of the blowouts, that we had some

524
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Speaker 3: good stuff there.

525
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Speaker 4: Yeah, at one point the Hawks had turned the ball

526
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Speaker 4: over so many times that Bob Rathman said to Dominique Wilkins,

527
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Speaker 4: you may not know this rule, Nick, but back in

528
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Speaker 4: the day, once we got the twenty turnovers, we just

529
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Speaker 4: wouldn't talk about him anymore. I finished with twenty three. Yeah,

530
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Speaker 4: you heard far less about him after number twenty.

531
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Speaker 1: Though, Like on the broadcast is he talking about yeah, yeah, Yeah.

532
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Speaker 3: It's like it's just a lot. Yeah, it's too.

533
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Speaker 1: Many, eight, that's for sure.

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Another game I wanted to touch on Brandon Ingram

535
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Speaker 3: getting the triple double. Pelicans set a franchise record for

536
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Speaker 3: threes twenty five they splashed last night in the one

537
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Speaker 3: thirty two to one to twelve victory over the lowly Hornets.

538
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Speaker 3: But Pell's cruising right now.

539
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Speaker 4: Pells are cruising right now. Eight and three and their

540
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Speaker 4: last eleventh. They're up to eighth in offense, ninth and

541
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Speaker 4: defense seventh in net rating. This is a good team

542
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Speaker 4: who's been playing pretty well basically through December and januaryp

543
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 4: tough start to the season. I think they started ten

544
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 4: and nine. We're just kind of Scoffland, but they figured

545
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Speaker 4: out how to play together. A triple double for Brandon

546
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Speaker 4: Ingram twenty eight ten and ten career high seven threes,

547
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Speaker 4: and you mentioned twenty five threes for the Pelicans. Jordan

548
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 4: Hawkins hit six, Trey Murphy the third hit five. CJ

549
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: McCollum hit four. I loved seeing Zion nine assists. He

550
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 4: was playing a lot of minutes with Hawkins and Trey

551
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 4: Murphy the third. So the Hornets were doing their best

552
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: to form a wall and Zion would just see the

553
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Speaker 4: wall and make an easy pass for a wide open three.

554
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Speaker 4: This looked like a team running through practice looks. Against

555
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Speaker 4: the Hornets. It was like, all right, Brandon, we're gonna

556
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 4: run a pick and roll. We'll have a guy crashed

557
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 4: out here. You're gonna have to find the left wing.

558
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 4: Let's run it, find it left wing, swish. We did it,

559
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 4: all right, Let's try it this time. Valentunis roll down,

560
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: the lane will hit you, the defense will step up.

561
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 4: You gotta find the guy in the corner. And they

562
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 4: did it no problem. Every look was very easy for

563
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Speaker 4: the Pelicans last night. Eh. But Ingram impressive. And I

564
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Speaker 4: bring him up because I saw yesterday we talked a

565
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Speaker 4: lot about potential All Stars snubs. Pelicans fans in the

566
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 4: comments were saying, man Brandon Ingram can't get even a

567
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 4: mention as a what about this guy? Maybe he should

568
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 4: he should be there as what about this guy?

569
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Speaker 3: He might should just be there. With their record as

570
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Speaker 3: it is, he's their best player. He is, Yeah, twenty

571
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Speaker 3: one five and five though, oh I thought it was

572
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Speaker 3: a little higher than that. Ah, really yeah, I.

573
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Speaker 4: Mean the percentages are nice forty nine, thirty six, eighty one.

574
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Speaker 4: He's playing well, definitely, but you know, like he's playing

575
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Speaker 4: pretty well as a number one guy. Zion is doing

576
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Speaker 4: basically the same percentage or scoring wise and all that

577
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Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But I'm sure he'll get some coaches votes.

578
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, probably on the outside looking in. Imagine.

579
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Speaker 3: We've talked before about he might be the most underrated

580
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Speaker 3: player in the league, just like you sort of forget

581
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Speaker 3: about him that he's there, but the numbers he puts

582
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Speaker 3: up and when they're winning and the impact he has,

583
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Speaker 3: that's a good call.

584
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Speaker 1: Youre right.

585
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 3: I guess we should have thrown him in there on

586
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Speaker 3: the what about this guy? I just love this team.

587
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Speaker 3: They could be a scary team to play in a

588
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: playoff series because of their shooting. Right when you've got

589
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Speaker 3: Tray Murphy the Third and you've got Jordan Hawkins out

590
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 3: there on the perimeter with the going through ingram AND's ion,

591
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: you know, different come up postseason and the defense is

592
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 3: a lot better, and you're gonna try and take those

593
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: guys away. Those guys are both shooting thirty nine percent

594
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: from deep and all I kept thinking watching the highlights

595
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Speaker 3: of Jordan Hawkins, like, you know, splashing shots and then

596
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: Trey Murphy the third splashing shots. Is like, the Hornets

597
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 3: definitely could have had Trey Murphy the third. They took

598
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Speaker 3: James book Knight, they took the catman at elevens on him.

599
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And you know there's other teams after. I mean,

600
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: the Wizards took Corey Kisspert, and like there's there's other

601
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: ones in that draft. But you know, Murphy the third,

602
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: he dropped all the way to seventeenth and this guy,

603
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: he's such a good shooter. And Hawkins coming in as

604
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Speaker 3: a rook man, he's that guy lets it fly and

605
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: it's a pretty looking shot. So I don't know, I

606
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Speaker 3: just think they could get in the right matchup. They

607
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 3: could just have one of those you know, you just

608
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: gotta get hot for like a week there, and those

609
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 3: days are hitting. I think they'll put up a fight

610
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Speaker 3: in a post in a postseason series whoever they play.

611
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Speaker 1: So it's always fun going through every draft and seeing

612
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Speaker 1: how you screwed up. Because we just talked about the

613
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Speaker 1: Orlando Magic, Raptors fans were extremely mad that they took

614
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Speaker 1: Scottie Barnes over Jalen Saw Yeah, and sucks is now

615
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: having to handle the ball a lot as a starting

616
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: guard without their starters, without without their depth and very

617
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: good defender, extremely good defender. But Raptors fans are extremely

618
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: happy years late and to watch Brandon Ingram years after

619
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: his Lakers run and what he's doing here hit seven threes.

620
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Speaker 1: I thought, that's probably that's got to be the most

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Speaker 1: of his career. Stepping back and hitting threes tied his

622
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Speaker 1: career high. But it helped. They're playing this Hornets team

623
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Speaker 1: that was a really good defensive lesson that you went

624
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: through their trey, like the defensive practice that the one

625
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: thing that the Horns were doing was walling off. But

626
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Speaker 1: they weren't good at anything secondary nothing zip Zilch zero

627
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: twenty five threes just because the Pells were making extra passes.

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Speaker 1: That's a franchise high for them, and Zion was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: ripping it across just one quick pass.

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Speaker 3: Nine helpers that twenty twenty one draft Cade going one

631
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Speaker 3: like you said, Barnes going four sucks five You got

632
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Speaker 3: Kiddy kaminga Franz, Wagner obviously, Green and Mobley up top

633
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: there too, but at number nine, after Franz goes to

634
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: the Magic at eight, Davion Mitchell to the Kings, Zire

635
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: Williams to the Pels, they are drafted by book Night Hornets,

636
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: like I said, Josh Primo to the Spurs, Chris Duarte

637
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: to the Pacers, Moody to the Warriors, and Kisspert at

638
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Speaker 3: fifteen of the Wizards, Shngoon at sixteen, and then Tramer

639
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: for the third going seventeenth, drafted by the Grizzlies, but

640
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: in that deal making his way obviously to the Pels.

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00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 4: Well there you go, Raptors fans. There's good players to

642
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 4: be found in the team, that's right, and a lot

643
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Speaker 4: of bad ones.

644
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: Exactly. You just gotta get lucky, basically.

645
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: But man, the Hornets, let's a minute here on the Hornets.

646
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 4: They got the best record of the soggy bottom boys.

647
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: I don't know how, because they have the worst net

648
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 4: rating in the league minus twelve point one points per

649
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 4: one hundred possessions. They are worse than the opponents that

650
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: they're playing. They've lost seventeen of their last eighteen games.

651
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: They have a worse net rating than any of the

652
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 4: processed sixers team. They have a worse net rating than

653
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: the nine win, seventy two and seventy three Philadelphia seventy

654
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 4: six Ers. However, not a worse net rating than the

655
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: twenty twelve Bobcats.

656
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: Who Wow, You don't.

657
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 4: Think about the Hornets as literally the worst team in

658
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: the league because they have double the wins of the Pistons.

659
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: But man, this team right stinky, very stinky. So it's

660
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: easy to score against them. Like we're talking about the

661
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: Pelicans hitting twenty five threes, they are twentieth and three

662
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: pointers made per game. Jordan Hawkins is a good shooter,

663
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: but he looks great against the team like the Hornets

664
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 4: when you're shooting wide open shots. Yeah, they have a

665
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: defensive coach in Steve Clifford.

666
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: Doesn't make sense, No, No, I mean you got me

667
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 3: thinking here, we've got the n season tournament edition. We've

668
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 3: got to play in tournament. That's fun. Do we need

669
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: an old Gus Macker like toilet bowl tournament at the

670
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: end of the season for like the crappy teams, the

671
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: nut dust bowl whatever? We need a toy soggy bottom

672
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: bowl whatever we call it for the worst teams, and like,

673
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: let's truly find out. Like you said, Hornet's got toye.

674
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: The wins is the Pistons. But I think I'd take

675
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: the Pistons to beat their ass right now. So let's

676
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: get them going.

677
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: I play next.

678
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: Sure, let's get them in a little battle here. Maybe

679
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: there's something there, all right, so we'll leave it there.

680
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: I know there are a lot of other games on.

681
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: We'll touch on a few of them when we get

682
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: into is this news quick break back in a second?

683
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Speaker 3: All right here with no dunks in the Classic Factory.

684
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Speaker 3: Happy anniversary to the show. Thanks everybody joining us live

685
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Speaker 3: on YouTube. Hit that like button, make sure you subscribe

686
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: podcast listeners. Leave us a five star rating and review.

687
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: That'd be a nice anniversary gift. What do you buy

688
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: someone on the eighteenth anniversary? What is it?

689
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 4: You know?

690
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: No?

691
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 4: No, I haven't, I haven't got to eighteen in my

692
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 4: real life.

693
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: Yet, Oh, Anthony Parker, that's what I buy them. You

694
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: were eighteen.

695
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into is this news? Some headlines for

696
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: the boys? You tell me whether or not they're newsworthy.

697
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: First one from SI I'm pulling the headline from Kyrie

698
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: Irving had interest in reuniting with Lakers Lebron James before

699
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: the Mavericks deal, per report. Now that report from ESPN's

700
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: Ramona Shelburne, and within her article, Kyrie greeted Lebron during

701
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: warm ups before the Lakers home game against the Grizzlies

702
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: in Game six of the first round series in last

703
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: year's postseason, and he was there to send a message

704
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: to Bron that Kyrie wanted to join forces. Again, that's

705
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: the article.

706
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: Is this news, No, it's not news. I think it's

707
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: it's bringing back memories for me. I thought I had

708
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: seen this hug. I thought I, but it wasn't in

709
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: a playoff game. But either way, I was imagining, well,

710
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: maybe Kyrie wants to play with Lebron. So I think

711
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: we're all thinking this.

712
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about this spec in the day.

713
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 4: This isn't news. You did see the hug. There are

714
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 4: photos of it, and there were reports at the time.

715
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 4: Brian Windhors reported in late May, Kyrie is ready to

716
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: join the Lakers.

717
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

718
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 4: Shawn's reported in early June Kyrie is trying to lure

719
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: Lebron to Dallas. Neither of happened.

720
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: Oh, we heard about him definitely then, Yeah, because they

721
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: weren't willing to pay him what the MAVs did. The

722
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: MAVs paid three for one hundred and twenty million dollars.

723
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: He could have gone to Lebron. It is interesting when

724
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: you look back, they didn't sign him to a MAX deal.

725
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: They signed him to a juicy three for one to

726
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: twenty that Rob Polenka obviously wasn't willing to give up

727
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of his younger players to try and go

728
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: get So it was news. But I guess it wasn't

729
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: that that pulling for Rob Polenka. They obviously could have

730
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: They've obviously could have tried, but they didn't want to.

731
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: So I guess maybe the hug wasn't good enough. I

732
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: don't know.

733
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was this was a test. You guys absolutely

734
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: passed it. This is not newsworthy. I want to see

735
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: if you guys still knew how to play this game.

736
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: I guess the one part from Ramona's article that was

737
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit interesting was her reporting that says

738
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: Lebron wanted that Kyrie reunion, or he was open to

739
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: the idea, but he wasn't too pushy about it, given

740
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: how the team's Russell Westbrook experiment had failed, right, and

741
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: you know, Lebron, by all accounts, was really leading that

742
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: idea like let's get Russ in here, that'll work, and

743
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: that blew up in their faces. So maybe he wasn't

744
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: as pushy for the Kyrie. I thought that was interesting,

745
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: but it's not newsworthy because did you notice who played

746
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: on ABC last night?

747
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: I did.

748
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: It was the Lakers and the MAVs. And wow, what

749
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 3: a coincidence that this article dropped the day of trying

750
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 3: to you know, drum up a little buzz there maybe

751
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: for that game under the ESPN sort of umbrella there

752
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 3: with ABC.

753
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, these two men hugged, Yeah, they hugged.

754
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: Later, Kyrie did show up for another playoff game in

755
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: probably Game four that they lost to the Nuggets. He

756
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: was also there to hug Lebron. They're keeping track, Yeah,

757
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 3: all right, good? Moving on to the next headline really

758
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: interesting to hear. Whether this is newsworthy, We'll go with

759
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: the New York Post. DeAndre Ayton prevented from making Blazer's

760
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: return due to icy roads in neighborhood.

761
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 4: Trey.

762
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: Is this news?

763
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: This is news? You don't see. You don't see a

764
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: player miss a game because of icy roads. All that

765
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 4: often did check the Blazers looks like a lot of

766
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: fans made. It looks like they've got one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

767
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: ten players played. Another two were there but they didn't play,

768
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 4: but they made it in. I noticed that interesting.

769
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 3: Well, maybe DeAndre eton lives on a very large hill

770
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: m it's really icy, and that they he could not

771
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: safely get down. And I guess the Blazers sent some

772
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: staff members to even try and go get them, and

773
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: they couldn't get to them.

774
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 4: Huh. Yeah, they're supposed to be Trailblazers. Dude's a millionaire.

775
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: The franchise is worth billions of dollars. Could he have

776
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: been there?

777
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: I think they they tried, They tried, they couldn't. They couldn't.

778
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: Ice is a problem in some cities. Fifty thousand people

779
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: don't have power in Oregon, because of it. So ice

780
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: is a problem in certain areas. It reminds me of

781
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: Atlanta where we live here. Sometimes you're just not ready

782
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: for ice, and that's what it seems like is happening.

783
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: That's what's happening in Portland. We're ready now here in

784
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: Atlanta because that day was tumultuous. It was like nine

785
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: years ago, where no one could move for like twenty hours.

786
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: I think that's what happened here, I guess. I mean,

787
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: if they're.

788
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 6: Trying and what happened tests what happened that day. They

789
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 6: knew it was coming, they put all of them up,

790
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 6: and we could have stayed in hotels next to Turner

791
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 6: because we knew there was going to be a nice ritter.

792
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: That's right.

793
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 6: So you're telling me that they couldn't put this guy

794
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 6: up in a hotel next to the arena. I live

795
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 6: in a hill, boss, I need to be somewhere close

796
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 6: to the arena.

797
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now he hadn't played in a while. Yeah, Okay,

798
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: so he hadn't played. I think his last name was

799
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 3: before Christmas, so Eaton had missed time here due to injury.

800
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 6: So maybe it's like, I don't know, it's just if.

801
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, extending the vacation time.

802
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, hotels would have been nice. JD. You're right. They

803
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: should have put everybody in a hotel that day, everybody

804
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: who lives in Atlanta, because people were just literally stopped

805
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: on the road and they're like, I don't want to

806
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: be in my car for twenty hours. Opened the door,

807
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: shut the door, and they walked out of their cars,

808
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: and they were just sitting there on the highway. Millions

809
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: of carsons lots of cars imagined.

810
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 4: It probably was similar in Oregons to snow Apocalypse. But

811
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 4: I mean I walked an hour, literally, I walked an

812
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: hour on the belt Line to go to our job

813
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: because we had to make it a TV show that day.

814
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: I did too.

815
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 3: That's the thing. Even if like I have no idea

816
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 3: where Eton lives, I'm assuming there's a hill involved in ice, right,

817
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: That's part of the issue. So if he's at the

818
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: top of this hill and can't get a vehicle down there,

819
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: nor can the Blazers get up to him, hey man,

820
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: jump on it to Boggin, let's go each at the bottom.

821
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 3: They obviously got to a certain part where he could

822
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 3: then get in a vehicle. He probably could have really

823
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: gotten to this game and decided, Yeah.

824
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 6: If he wanted to be there, he would have been there.

825
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: And a lot of people pointing on Twitter of course

826
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: it happens to this guy, to Ayton, who's uh, you know,

827
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: been questioned about his love of the game before, especially

828
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: in Phoenix. And you know he's from the Bahamas. He

829
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: only ever went to school and played in the pros

830
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 3: in Phoenix, in Arizona, i should say, and now lives

831
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: in the Pacific Northwest where he gets this cold weather

832
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: from time to time. So he's not he's not built

833
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: for this.

834
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: He probably really shocked him, probably, so I agree.

835
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but hey, and in the end they didn't need him,

836
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: got the dumb They won Anthony Simon's and he a

837
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: very difficult little floater U to get the win over

838
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: who was it? The nets?

839
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 4: Right, So there you go, that's right, Yeah, Anthony Simon's nice.

840
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: One, Okay, so newsworthy, definitely funny.

841
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 4: That's unusual, very.

842
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 3: Unusual, very unusual, all right. Next one here from the athletics,

843
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 3: Fred Katz Nicks are actively fielding offers for Quentin Grimes.

844
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: Is this news test? I want to start with you

845
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: because you're always talking about Grimes.

846
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: What do you think I love the Grimes, but Tom

847
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: Thibodeau doesn't seem to love him as much anymore. He's

848
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: yanked him basically from his old job. Last year he's starting,

849
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: he was playing thirty minutes a game. He's put him

850
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: to the bench where he's playing like seventeen minutes a

851
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: game from the bench, and so things have changed. I

852
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: wonder if this story is coming more from the Knick

853
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: side or the Grime side, because I'm sure Grimes ain't happy.

854
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: But the Knicks are playing a bunch of different guards.

855
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: They signed McBride Deuce McBride recently to a long term contract.

856
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: They've got Josh harden Brunson Defincenzo, and he wants to start,

857
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: and he needs the appropriate team. It ain't the Knicks,

858
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: that's for sure, so they probably don't want to sign

859
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: him long term. And it looks like one of those

860
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: potential deals here to trade him as he has about

861
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: a year and a half left of his contract to

862
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: get as much back as possible. So it looks like

863
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: the two sides are saying goodbye. I'm not sure if

864
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: it's a Grimy side or if it's the Nick side,

865
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: but I think both sides agree, you're not gonna be

866
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: here long term.

867
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: What do you think, Tike?

868
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably time to move on. Then there's lots of

869
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: money and the Knicks backcourt right now with Brunson Dante DiVincenzo,

870
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to pay Ognobi and they just did

871
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 4: a deal for Deuce McBride as well. Grimes was pretty

872
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: solid last year. There's stories floating around now that he

873
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: lost the trust of Tom Thibodeaux because he sat out

874
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: the last two games of the Cavs series with the

875
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 4: shoulder injury. Not tough enough for Tom. Yeah, he's been

876
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: better off the bench, but only an eleven point seven

877
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 4: usage rate as a starter, And to me, he just

878
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 4: looked very gun shy playing alongside Brunson and Randall. You're

879
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 4: not really sure where the shots are going to come from.

880
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 4: But when you're playing in that scenario, you got to

881
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: shoot it every time you touch it. And that's what

882
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: they wanted from Grimes and they weren't able to get it.

883
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 4: If he's able to do that for another team, he helps.

884
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: Otherwise he's like just the dude. I think maybe a

885
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 4: fifth starter, but more likely a sixth or seventh man.

886
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw these reports that again, he lost Tibbs

887
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: trust because he wouldn't play through those games in the playoffs.

888
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: But then that doesn't really make a lot of sense

889
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: because then he started the season right, you know, Tibbs

890
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: gave him a go. He started like eighteen of their

891
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: first twenty games, the only to he missed because of injury,

892
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: and then he was in the dockhouse and made his

893
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 3: way to the bench and the minutes went down, down, down.

894
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 3: So yeah, a little weird. Sounds like a tips like thing, though,

895
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 3: come on, man, jump it up. You know ooh TIB's

896
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: yelling ice well eating stuck in his home. Merge those

897
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: headlines together like that just crossed my mind. But yeah,

898
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: this I'm with you, like you know, you love Grimes.

899
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: Like I said, I think he is a solid player.

900
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: I think in the right right spot. I don't know

901
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: what team it would be, he would play well and

902
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: would become sort of like a quickly a fan favorite there.

903
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: But I understand why the next move off him here too,

904
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: because they got a lot of talent there in the

905
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: back court and don't want to be the ones to

906
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 3: pay him moving forward.

907
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, he started a little bit as a ball handler,

908
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, as a creator, and maybe that's

909
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: what Tibbs is signing up his team for for the future,

910
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: and he just doesn't seem to be that A three

911
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: and d yes and so it depends on the team,

912
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: I think. But he can do that and he can

913
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: defend pretty well.

914
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, young guy here too. He's not even twenty four

915
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: years old, only his third year in the league. So

916
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 3: time to develop some of those skills if you can.

917
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: You have an a sigh on the call? Okay um

918
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: for me?

919
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 3: Final one here from Reuter's Uh, Diamond Sports in deal

920
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: to emerge from bankruptcy signs Amazon Streaming Packed. So I'll

921
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: explain this one for maybe some of you out there.

922
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: This is confusing.

923
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: Diamond, which operates regional sports channels under the Bali Sports Bran,

924
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: said it will receive four hundred and fifty million, I

925
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: said Bally as Bali. I know, I always do that.

926
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: Four hundred and fifty million in financing from the creditor group,

927
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: four hundred and ninety five million from Sinclair, and then

928
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifteen million from Amazon. Okay, So Diamond

929
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: is going to use these funds to pay down older

930
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: debts and continue operations because there was talk like this

931
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 3: was this was going to be like, like I said, bankruptcy,

932
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: it was going to be disbanded. All that Amazon will

933
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: take a minority equity stake in Diamond as part of

934
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: the deal, and you know, in theory of these games

935
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: are going to be aired on Prime video at least

936
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: the DTC the direct to consumer rights, because Diamond also

937
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: has linear rights. They have TV rights for a lot

938
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: of the NBA franchise, a lot of NHL frans, a

939
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: lot of MLB franchises. So it sounds like this is

940
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: you know, basically Amazon's coming in here and saying we

941
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 3: got you. We're gonna help you out and take a

942
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: part of this and try and keep this alive. Is

943
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 3: this news?

944
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? I guess I just don't know how I'm watching

945
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 4: the Hawks. I opened my Bally Sports app or my

946
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: Amazon app. I don't know. I don't know how to

947
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: have a take on this right now. So here's a

948
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 4: take I saw from tipping pitches on Twitter. It's so

949
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 4: dope that to be an MLB fan. Obviously a baseball account,

950
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 4: but this goes for NHL and NBA as well, So

951
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 4: dope to that to be a fan in twenty twenty four,

952
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 4: You have to tangentially follow a bankruptcy court hearing for

953
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 4: the failed TV subsidiary of a casino empire that just

954
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: recently sold off its sports right to the content arm

955
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 4: of the bookseller turned tech monopoly that's ruininged society.

956
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, good tweet.

957
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 4: I was like, Yeah, that's exactly right. I have to

958
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 4: know what's going on between Amazon and Diamond Sports right

959
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 4: now because the big TV deal is coming soon, and

960
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 4: this is honestly a decent way for Amazon to get

961
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 4: their foot in the door a little bit before this

962
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 4: next rights deal comes and says, look, we helped you out,

963
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 4: We've been streaming these games. We can obviously do it.

964
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: Maybe they are a bigger player coming forward.

965
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it definitely seems like if you read

966
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: the article. It ain't even exactly clear what's going to

967
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: happen day to day here after this purchase, but it

968
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: feels like Amazon is getting in the way to hopefully

969
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: purchase the right NBA games when the TV deal is

970
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: up in a mere one point five years. But the

971
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: negotiations are going to start happening in months. So that's

972
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: where I think they do want to get in because yes,

973
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: some of these games will be on Prime video channels,

974
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: and hopefully it does remove some from the Ballet's app,

975
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: because the Vallet's app sometimes it's a little tough to handle.

976
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: I've watched plenty of Atlanta games, watch plenty of baseball

977
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: games through there, but it's a bit of a struggle.

978
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: So not only will it be through Amazon Prime, but

979
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: just hopefully there's a better interface for them. And because

980
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: even if they use Amazon wire services, maybe maybe they

981
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: can they can help our web services, that's what it's called.

982
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: Like they need some help. So maybe it's just streaming,

983
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: and maybe it's just showing the NBA. Hey, you know

984
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: how the mL glass is on Apple TV. We can

985
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: make things going. Things are seemingly going towards streaming networks,

986
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, the Amazon thing may just be baseball games

987
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: for a long time. It's an interesting deal, but it

988
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: ain't clear what is happening at all.

989
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: What the NBA needs to do, though, is simplify this,

990
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: Like you were saying to that tweet. So, Hey, I'm

991
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: a Hawks fan or I'm a Grizzly fan or whatever,

992
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 3: I just want to watch their games. Where how do

993
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: I do?

994
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 4: How?

995
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: Like, what do I need I shouldn't have to have

996
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: you know, ten things or where it's on this one

997
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: and then it's on this one, and I gotta pay

998
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: for this one and this one all hold on now

999
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 3: it's blacked out on this one. That's insane. It really

1000
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: is insane in twenty twenty four that we're still doing this.

1001
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 3: So you know, again, I hope either with Amazon coming

1002
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: in here the tech side of things, they need it.

1003
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: You're right, those regional sports networks, it feels like, and

1004
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: then along with the NBA, I mean, I don't really

1005
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: care about the NHL or mbile that much. I hope

1006
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 3: it also works for fans of those teams and those sports.

1007
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, from the NBA side of things, just make

1008
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: this easier for people to pay a cost to watch

1009
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: their teams or the entire league. I can't believe that

1010
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: you pay for league Pass and then you cannot watch

1011
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: your team a lot of the time. Yes, that's so insane,

1012
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 3: and I you know, I understand why. I get why,

1013
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: because you know, these networks have paid for it or whatever,

1014
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: but they got to do a better job and can

1015
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: do a better job and hopefully will moving forward.

1016
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 4: It's like my good friend Ashley Schaeffer always says, let

1017
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: the boys watch. The good thing is, though, that teams

1018
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 4: like the Hawks have started putting games like on just broadcasting. Yeah,

1019
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 4: you could watch them on Peachtree TV here for free,

1020
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 4: which is cool. Yeah, so that's an option.

1021
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: And then remind me who are the other teams that

1022
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: were like almost doing their own sort of streaming thing,

1023
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 3: the Suns, I want to say, maybe the Jazz.

1024
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 4: That could be Yeah, it's going to be more common.

1025
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: I do believe, yeah, I think so.

1026
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 4: One last thing before we move on. Skeets TMZ reported

1027
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 4: that the Josh Giddy situation is not going to be

1028
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 4: prosecuted prosecuted by police. That's no charges will be filed. Basically,

1029
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: nobody wants to cooperate cooperate with the investigation. Sham's reported

1030
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 4: that the NBA has not yet completed its review of

1031
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: the allegations into Giddy, which is being called an inappropriate

1032
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: relationship with a potential minor. I hope we hear from

1033
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 4: the NBA soon because there should be some sort of

1034
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 4: punishment for Josh Giddy. He should be suspended at least

1035
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 4: for a couple of games. I don't know how long

1036
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 4: they can go or how long they would go. But

1037
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 4: I hope we hear something from that soon since they

1038
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 4: said they're taking a back seat until the criminal investigation

1039
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 4: is done. It is done now. Now it's time for

1040
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: you to step up, NBA, because this guy is still playing.

1041
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: Every time he talk the ball in every arena, he's

1042
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 4: booed every single time. So let's hear something.

1043
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, there needs to be some resolution for sure. All right,

1044
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: before we wrap up today's podcast, we're not gonna do

1045
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: tweet the night because we had some very sad news

1046
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 3: in the NBA community yesterday. Warriors assistant coach Dayon Miljovich

1047
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: died Wednesday after suffering a heart attack at a private

1048
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: team dinner. He was just forty six years old. Decki,

1049
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 3: as he was known to most in the franchise and

1050
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: around the league. He collapsed at a restaurant in downtown

1051
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: Salt Lake City. He was rushed to an area hospital,

1052
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 3: and his family flew to Utah to be with him.

1053
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: The Warriors were scheduled to play the Jazz last night. Wisely,

1054
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: that game was postponed. Milojovic was in his third season

1055
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 3: as an assistant coach for the Warriors, primarily tasked with

1056
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: working with centers, He actually had a legendary fourteen year

1057
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 3: playing career. In his home country of Serbia. He was

1058
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: known as an old school power forward with the nickname

1059
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: Serbian Barkley, which is so cool. He racked up v

1060
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 3: peas over there. Then he moved quickly into coaching and

1061
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: he served as an early mentor for future NBA bigs

1062
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: like Boban and Zubats and most famously you see the

1063
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: photo there, two time MVP Nikola Jokicic. He has survived

1064
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 3: by his wife and his two children, and we here

1065
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: at No Dunks send our condolences to his family, the

1066
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: Warriors family, the Serbian basketball community. Just a really sad

1067
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 3: day for the whole again basketball community losing DECKI there.

1068
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he obviously moved a lot of players and teams

1069
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: and fans as a player for a long time. Dark

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Speaker 1: Oriakovic actually went up to the podium and talked about

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Speaker 1: it how he was a big man, played the five

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Speaker 1: as well, six four sixty five, just played with a

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Speaker 1: lot of heart and a lot of size. And then

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Speaker 1: even guys here the Atlanta Hawks bogged down Bogdanovitch. I'm sorry, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Bogdan Bogdanovic also actually yeah, he came out and said,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to play. He didn't actually he thought

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Speaker 1: he may not play because he was so emotional. And

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Speaker 1: then after the game he said, I don't even remember

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Speaker 1: what happened in that game, because that's all I was

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Speaker 1: thinking of. He was just thinking of Decky and the

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Speaker 1: influence that he had on I'm bugged in and a

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Speaker 1: bunch a bunch of Serbians that we may not know of,

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Speaker 1: but he had a huge, huge, huge influence on kids everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Really anything to a t k I.

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Speaker 4: This is a guy who was not well known to

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Speaker 4: the casual fan, right Like, I'm learning a lot about

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Speaker 4: Milohovich here as well. Everybody seems to love him. I

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Speaker 4: thought it was really cool seeing all of the tributes

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Speaker 4: from everybody. Even a guy like Brandon Pajemski has known

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Speaker 4: him for months. He's like he changed my life in

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Speaker 4: a couple of months. Everybody that worked with him said

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Speaker 4: he was awesome, said he always had a smile on

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Speaker 4: his face. I thought it was very cool that the

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Speaker 4: Raptors ran one of his plays to start the game

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Speaker 4: in their win last night scored on it as well,

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Speaker 4: which that's a pretty cool tribute. But man forty six

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Speaker 4: years old is very very young. He's apparently got kids

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Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, extra extra sad. So just sad stuff

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Speaker 4: and no doubt the Warriors are shaking with everybody being

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Speaker 4: there as it happened. Postponed the game reasonably so so

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Speaker 4: just sad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just sad man. So to end on that note,

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Speaker 3: thanks for joining us here on No Dunks today. Hit

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Speaker 3: the light button subscribe if you have. It leaves a

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Speaker 3: five star rating and review. We appreciate that. We will

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Speaker 3: be back tomorrow. It's Friday already. We got the Drop podcast,

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Speaker 3: so we'll be live at ten a m. Eastern again.

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Speaker 3: If you want more Siakam Pacers Raptors trade content. We

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Speaker 3: did do the emergency podcast yesterday. Also on yesterday show,

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Speaker 3: we talked about it when we were thinking it was

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Speaker 3: going to happen, happen and they were actively engaged in

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Speaker 3: all that.

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Speaker 4: So we've talked about it a lot.

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Speaker 3: So go check out those pots if you haven't until

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Speaker 3: tomorrow though, Clipper Bros. You heard it here first.

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Speaker 4: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining, and remember I'm wearing a Raptor jacket.

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Speaker 1: JD was complaining about it because it was making swishy

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Speaker 1: noises we make off and a lot of noises here JD.

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Speaker 1: We pop our p's all the time, lots of table heads.

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Speaker 1: Feels like a game. Feels like a game. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're on the court. I know.

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Speaker 3: We need squeaking sneakers. While we talked to Brace today

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Speaker 3: people

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