1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Hey, Hurdlers. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: Emily of Badi here chiming into your feeds today with 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: episode eighty nine of Hurdle, a podcast that talks to 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: everyone from entrepreneurs to top CEOs and athletes about how 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: they've gotten through tough times hurdles of sorts by leaning 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: in to wellness. Today, I am reaching back into the 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: vault one last time for twenty nineteen to bring you 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: my conversation with the One, the Only, Robin Arzon. Robin 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: is the vice president of fitness Programming and head instructor 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: at Peloton. 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Now, 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: it's hard to imagine a time when activity wasn't a 57 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: part of her everyday life, but after a near death 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: experience at age twenty, where she was held hostage at 59 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: gunpoint in New York City's East Village, she leaned into 60 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: movement and running for the first time to help her. 61 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Process the trauma. 62 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: Soon enough, the then lawyer turned away from her conventional 63 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: nine to five with hopes to turn her passion for 64 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: sweat into her career, and that is when she found Peloton. 65 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: She's a twenty six time. 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: Marathoner, and in today's episode, the Adidas a Global brand 67 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: ambassador gets honest about how tough times have shaped her 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: perspective and helped her home in on her inner swagger. 69 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: She also offers essential, actionable advice for runners of all 70 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: levels on things like race day best practices and tips 71 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: on how to take your stride to a whole other level. 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: You all know the Drill at Hurdle podcast at Emily 73 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: a Body. If you have a hurdle moment of your own, 74 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: share you just want to say Hi, hit me up. 75 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: It's Emily at Hurdle dot Us. I've got an extra 76 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: special episode coming to you this Wednesday, a year in review, 77 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: and I'm just feeling all sorts of grateful that today's episode, 78 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: episode eighty nine, is on the birthday eve two years 79 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 2: in of hurdle. You guys, you make me feel the 80 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: luckiest with that. Let's get to hurdling in the studio 81 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: today with Robin Arzon. She is the best selling author 82 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: of Shut Up and Run, also the head instructor and 83 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: VP of Fitness Programming at Peloton. 84 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: Hey, Robin, what's up? What's up? Girl, Thanks for coming 85 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: in today. I feel like the first thing. 86 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: We to do is like address the onsom that's happening 87 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: in front of me. Robin's got on like the silver 88 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Doc Martins, a pretty dope leather and like a sports bra, 89 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: some shiny leggings. 90 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: This is regular for you, this kind of stick it is. 91 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: I'm glad at leisure is in fashion because that's the 92 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: only way I rock these days. 93 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: Well, and I mean it kind of has to be 94 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: when you're going from workout to workout, to work out 95 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: to work out, Yeah. 96 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 3: And you know some precevent sandwiched in between, and it's 97 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: kind of like I like that, the fact that this 98 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: is a lifestyle and we live it. 99 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: We live it, we do. 100 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: So what I'd love to get into right from the 101 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: get go talking a little bit about your every day 102 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: because today you're here recording a podcast. I know Peloton 103 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: is doing a huge launch downtown that I'll be checking 104 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: out later with the new tread. So give me a 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: snippet of maybe, quote unquote, a normal New York City 106 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: day for you. 107 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 3: I love when other people answer these questions, and I'm 108 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: riveted by like morning routines and how people spend their time, 109 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: and I always wonder how I can answer that accurately. 110 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 3: I would say it's at least two to three hours 111 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: of fitness a day, whether that's my own workout, a 112 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: long run, and or instructing two to three one to 113 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: two classes a day at peloton, tread and cycling. 114 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: My morning routine is really important. 115 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: I would say, like green smoothie and Macha are essentials 116 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: before I can even walk out the door. 117 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: What time is that for you? 118 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: Depends on when I'm teaching, Like Tuesday morning, that might 119 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: happen at four point thirty in the morning. On another day, 120 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: optimally it wouldn't happen before before seven. I'm not like 121 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: a rooster like like a lot of people think I've 122 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 3: made myself into someone who prioritizes movement early in the morning, 123 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: But I'm that's not naturally my cadence. I would sleep. 124 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 3: I would sleep till seven if I had mind brothers. 125 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: So you're the kind of person that could, like work 126 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 3: out at nine o'clock at night. 127 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. 128 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: I actually have my my most effective lifting sessions. 129 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: Are at night. Wow, yeah I don't, but. 130 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: Then you're adrenaline is going and you're all screwed. Up, 131 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: so I understand the need to move and prime yourself 132 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 3: in the morning. 133 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the muscles they say. 134 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: I mean all the research says that getting active in 135 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: the morning, like your body's not ready for it. You're 136 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: tired your muscles just like rested for twelve hours, not 137 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: twelve hours, but seven hours. 138 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: I wish twelve hours. 139 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: Go shit, same, I wish twelve hours. But so you're 140 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: you're you know, you're lazy in the morning. But for me, 141 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: it's like I feel sluggish if I don't do it. Yeah, 142 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: one hundred yeah, So okay, step button. All right, you 143 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: get up in the morning, green juice, macha, you're out 144 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: the door. 145 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: And then out the door, probably teaching a class. And 146 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: then I My day is from sun up to sundown 147 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: jam packed. 148 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: So I will schedule like a fifteen minute conference call 149 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: when I know I'm going to be in an uber 150 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: on the way to the next press thing. 151 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: I will, you know, have millions. I have all the snacks. 152 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: If you ever run into me and you need a snack, 153 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: I got you because I literally I have at least 154 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: three workout clothes, probably two sets of shoes, lifters and 155 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: running shoes, as well as all the snacks, and that 156 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: is to enable me to really leave in the morning 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: and not come back. 158 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: You know, probably usually twelve to fourteen hour days. You know. 159 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: I have days, you know, filled with workouts, press events, 160 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: you know, writing articles, doing stuff with my publisher based 161 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 3: for my book, doing things like this podcast for Peloton 162 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: or Not. 163 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: And I'm the head instructor, so I have a lot of. 164 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: Meetings that involve not only recruiting our amazing talent, but 165 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: also working with our talent and making sure that they 166 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: have the resources and the skill sets that they need 167 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: to shine on our platforms and you know, not to 168 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: be taken lately, working very collaboratively with our production team 169 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: to produce the amazing fourteen hours of live content that 170 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: we I am now more than that, Wow, over twenty 171 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: four hours of live content now with the tread that 172 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: we send to the world every day. 173 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot of content. That's a lot. It's 174 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. 175 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: I mean, let's flash back for a second and talk 176 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: a little bit about how different things were you fifteen, sixteen, 177 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: seventeen years ago. 178 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: You were on track to become a lawyer. 179 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: So talk to me a little bit about what life 180 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: was like then and where you thought you would end up. 181 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, my father was an attorney, and I always 182 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: kind of loved the idea of wrestling with the law 183 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: and facts, and I was drawn to that natural storytelling 184 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: that now I do as a writer. But back then, 185 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 3: I thought, oh, man, a law that's my bag. I 186 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: was at NYU really thinking, Okay, I'm going to become 187 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 3: a partner at a law firm, or I'm going to 188 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: become like something in the legal field that will make 189 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: my family proud. 190 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: And I was on track to do that. 191 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: I was heading into my senior year at n YU 192 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: and I had already been accepted to Villanova Law School. 193 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: I knew where I was going the next year, and 194 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: that felt really good. But then things. 195 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean, life happens, right. 196 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: It's just the when you think of yourself as an 197 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: actor or a hero in your own story, sometimes life 198 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 3: gives you the opportunity to really make choice of victim 199 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: or victor. And for me, that happened one night in 200 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: the East Village when I was held hostage by a 201 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 3: complete stranger who really just wanted to inflict pain on people, 202 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: and he had guns and swords, and it was crazy town, 203 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: like it was truly when time slows down and you're 204 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: you are looking at yourself as as an actor in 205 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: a play like it's wild and you were you were 206 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: twenty when this happened. 207 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: I was twenty and so who were you there with? 208 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: What were you doing? I was there with friends underage 209 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: a few a few weeks first birthday. I realized. I 210 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: just like completely called you out. 211 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: At the time. 212 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: No, it's cool. I've talked about it before. 213 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: But honestly, if that's what you're focused on, you're not 214 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: freaking what's going on. 215 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: You're not listening. 216 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 3: Okay, Oh yeah, So I was just out at a 217 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 3: wine bar with friends. I was working as a parentleegal 218 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: at a law firm at the time, really trying to 219 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: like cut my teeth on this new you know, venture 220 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: of wall and I mean, you want to talk about 221 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: bright eyed and bushytailed Like I. 222 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: Was entering my senior year at NYU. 223 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: I already had my law acceptance locked in, I had 224 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 3: a job, I had friends in the city, and it 225 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: was like somemer in the city, like that vibe is 226 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: the best and at any moment things can be taken 227 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: away from you, and for me in that moment, thankfully, 228 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: I survived obviously everybody survived that situation, actually, but I 229 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: lost my ability to be naive to my own agency 230 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 3: and how I am in control of. 231 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: How I react to the world. 232 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: And it ended up being a huge blessing because I 233 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: had to wake up the next morning and be like, okay, 234 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: am I a victim. 235 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: Or a hero of this story? Very long story short. 236 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: This man ended up taking about twenty people in the 237 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: bar hostage, and the NYPD outside were called, of course, 238 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: Mayhem on Second Avenue in the East village, and I 239 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: became student negotiator between this man and the NYPD outside. 240 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: I had no idea what I was doing. 241 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: My entire purpose in that moment was to humanize the 242 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: situation and just to remind him that these people had siblings, parents, 243 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: loved ones that wanted to hear. 244 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: From them tomorrow. 245 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 3: And my refrain, back to the storytelling piece of it was, 246 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: this is not the end of my story. My mother 247 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: is not getting a call tomorrow that I died in 248 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 3: these village And that somehow allowed me to make a 249 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 3: connection with this guy long enough for the NYPD to intercede, 250 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: and this really brave woman and Margaret ended up jumping 251 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: him from behind so that like moment gave the NYPD 252 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: enough time to kind of come in and thankfully the 253 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: situation came to a close. But I mean it feels 254 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 3: like years when somebody has a gun to your head. 255 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: You don't wake up the next morning the same. 256 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: And it's kind of crazy because you think about like 257 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: you can always anticipate or I mean hopefully you don't 258 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: have to, but and just a bit how you might 259 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: react in that moment. Yeah, but that moment happened, and 260 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: the fact that you had the mental clarity instead of 261 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: just totally freaking out to stop and think, okay, what's 262 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: my step? Like what am I going to do here? 263 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: How are we going to get out of this? And 264 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: act almost clear, clear headedly. 265 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, well, you know people always say like, 266 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: you know, you look, you look at someone as other 267 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 3: and think I could never do that, And it might be, 268 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: you know, an act of bravery, or it might be 269 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: you know, a marathon or attending a spin class, and 270 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: it's like, well, you can if you have to, or 271 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 3: you have to what if you had to? What if 272 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: you don't have a choice. The human spirit is so 273 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: incredibly resilient. We here amazing stories of people dealing with 274 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 3: far worse than I ever have every single day and 275 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: living to tell the tale and living to unify and 276 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: really really just rise above. 277 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: So obviously a heartle moment of sorts. You're going into 278 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: your senior year, you make it out of this horrific situation. 279 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 2: At this point, you're still pretty on track and excited 280 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: to go to law school and continue on, maybe with 281 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: a renewed sense of purpose. 282 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely felt like, Okay, I'm here. 283 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: I'm alive for a reason, Like let's have that zest 284 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: for life that seems like a cliche until you almost 285 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: die and then it's not. And then like I will 286 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: take every Hallmark card, you know, copy piece of copy 287 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: that seems hyperbolic. It's like, no, we're here. I'm happy, 288 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: really really happy to be alive. So I answered law 289 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: school and it was cool, but I had no idea 290 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 3: how much trauma my body had actually absorbed. 291 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 2: You know. 292 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: I went to talk therapy. They're like, oh, you're good. 293 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I seem to be pretty stable. Let's 294 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: rock this law school thing. And it was one day 295 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: I was called to just lace up and run. Never 296 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: had run a mountain mile in my life. I was 297 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: allergic to exercise. I completely did not identify as an athlete. 298 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: The thought of participating in any type of sport or 299 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: any type of workout truly intimidated me, like gave me, 300 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: you know that that tension in the in the middle 301 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: of your chest. And it's really crazy that now that 302 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: is my life's work and it gets me out of 303 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: bed in the morning. But back then it was it 304 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: was really terrifying. But I felt the need to move, 305 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: and I think the trigger was, obviously, you know, this 306 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: traumatic experience that happened and I had done enough talking. 307 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: Now I needed to start moving, And it was it 308 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 3: was the running shoes that helped me really like. 309 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: Run it out. So when you say call, it was 310 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: a call from within, call. 311 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: From within absolutely, like it was almost like something was 312 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: tethered to my chest and was like, you were going 313 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: out to run today, girl. And when I say I 314 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: should say run in air quotes, I mean it might 315 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: have been like a very brisk, yeah walk. You know. 316 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: I had no endurance at that point. Literally, I was 317 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: completely deconditioned. But I did it, and I got up again, 318 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: and I did it the next day, and then I 319 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: signed up for races and it was a very slow, 320 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: iterative process. 321 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I totally hear you. 322 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: I mean when I started running, it was like a 323 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: half mile every day for a summer, and then slowly 324 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: in the same kind of storyline, it's like half mile 325 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: becomes a five k, you set up for a race, 326 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: you feel like you suck, but you do it. The 327 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: five k becomes a half marathon, and then we're running 328 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: everywhere and everywhere. 329 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, all the time, all the races, all the. 330 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: Time, all the time. You're running new because yeah, I 331 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: am same same, I'm excited. 332 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: I uh. 333 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So you start running, and around this time in 334 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: your life, you're also getting maybe your first job at 335 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: a law firm. 336 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 337 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: So I was at my one law firm my entire career. 338 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: I was a summer associated a Paul Hastings, and then 339 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: I ended up practicing there for seven years after I graduated, 340 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: or I left in my seventh year. 341 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: Okay, and talk to me about what it was like 342 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: when you were leaving, Like why were you leaving? 343 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: What was the mental thought process You're you're running. 344 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: You're like, I'm a lawyer, but I'm also really identifying 345 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: with this running thing. 346 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: I like activity. So what I ran at her law career. 347 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: Like literally, as I picked up my mileage and my 348 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: passion for running, I became much more immersed in the 349 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: running community, which is incredible and truly enveloping. And it 350 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: was at a time when there was a confluence of 351 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: like social media and a buzziness around urban running. However, 352 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: folks wanted to find that I was running with the 353 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 3: New York City Bridge Runners at the time and still 354 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: do an amazing group. I didn't hate law, so it 355 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: would be much easier if the story were I hated 356 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: I was miserable. It was like no, I actually like 357 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: the intellectual rigor of law, and the partners who I 358 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: worked with were badass. But I felt like I was 359 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 3: leading a divorced existence, almost like like the superhero, like 360 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: if you hang up the cape and then you go 361 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: to the office, and then you leave the lead this 362 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: other life at night, and I would count down the 363 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: hours until I could move, till I could sweat so 364 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 3: I could go to spin class, so I could. 365 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: Run with my crew. And I thought, if I could 366 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: monetize this sweat thing, then I would be golden. 367 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: I would be living in that flow, like an ex 368 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: boyfriend that you wish he did something really bad, so 369 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: you can just tell him that, like he's not worth 370 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: your energy. 371 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: But when like it just kind of ends, you're like, oh, 372 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: this is so much worse. Yeah, so much worse. 373 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: Well, people live at that in that malaise and that 374 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: like just okay, yeah, but it's not okay to feel 375 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: just okay, and people aren't told that enough. And it 376 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 3: is to use that relationship analogy, it's like then when 377 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: you're in the right relationship, you're like, Oh, this is 378 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: what it's supposed to be like and crazy and it's 379 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: so crazy. And so that is how I felt about 380 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 3: about my departure from laws that I didn't hate law, 381 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: but I loved this other thing, and I needed to 382 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 3: figure out if I failed, I failed on my own 383 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: terms at least and doing something, doing. 384 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: Something that I loved. 385 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: So two weeks before the London twenty twelve Olympics, with 386 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: a Craft's iPhone and a and a Tumblr blog, I decided, 387 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to just report from the games. 388 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna quit my job and I'm going to go 389 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: and interview athletes and I'm just going to be where 390 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: the stuff is happening. 391 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: How did you get that access? Oh, I hustled. I 392 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: knew some guy who ran track. 393 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 3: He introduced me to the PR people for the US 394 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: Olympic team. 395 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Pure hustle. Nobody kne who I was. 396 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 3: I was standing next to like you know, the network greats, CBS, NBC, 397 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 3: and it was like I was just this kid, but 398 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: you know what, like you gotta fake it till you 399 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: make it. And I ended up having really cool like 400 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: interviews and Carra Gatcher, who now I'm a contributor to 401 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: her book, and other athletes who have no reason to 402 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: give me an interview, you know, somehow gave me the 403 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 3: time of day, and that gave me insight into even 404 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: more true storytelling and the fabric that we're weaving in 405 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: being these storytellers. 406 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: So it sounds like at the beginning, you're kind of 407 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: thinking of getting into fitness and wellness, like from maybe 408 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: like a writer journalistic side. 409 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: It's the only box that I had available to me. 410 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: Right So I when I give people advice, now career advice, 411 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: I say, uncheck all the boxes, take a true, true 412 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: inventory of your skill set and where you want to 413 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: get to, and. 414 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: Then bridge that gap. 415 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 3: But I was inserting myself into the box that I 416 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: had already created, so you know, editors that you know, 417 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: like like Rosin Fresher for example, like was nice enough 418 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: to meet me for coffee one day, and. 419 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: I was like, what's it like to be an editor 420 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: at a magazine? You know? 421 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: I had no fucking clue, right, So it was like 422 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: figuring it out within the parameters that I perceived, right, 423 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: And then I realized, after thinking, the only way I 424 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: can leave law and not be a professional athlete is 425 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 3: to be a journalist. Social media really helped me kind 426 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 3: of just establish my own voice and then establish a brand, 427 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: which would have been unheard of, you know, ten, ten 428 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: to twenty years ago. 429 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: So talked to me about what that looked like then. 430 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: So you're at the Games, you come back, what are 431 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: you doing with this content? 432 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: Where are you putting it? 433 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: And then what's your next step into kind of creating content? 434 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 2: Still but not really thinking like, Okay, I've got to 435 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: be on this like journalist path right now. 436 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: So while I was at the Games, I actually I 437 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: had my Tumbler account and honestly I created my Tumblr 438 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: shot Up and Run, which later became the name for 439 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 3: my book, simply to document my New York City marathon 440 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: training journey in twenty ten. 441 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: It was just like my own. 442 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: Scrap book and then that kind of you know, create 443 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: had a life of its own. 444 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: Was that your first? My first? Yeah, New York City, 445 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: New York City, twenty ten. 446 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: I was raising money for MS research and because my 447 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 3: mom has MS, and that became that. That was it, 448 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 3: That was the game, That was the game changing race. 449 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 3: I crossed that finish line. I was like, Okay, this 450 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 3: is what I'm meant to do forever. 451 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, truly. 452 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: So while I was while I was in London at 453 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: the Games, I ended up receiving a job opportunity to 454 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: work on the agency side for Nike Women. So Nike 455 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 3: Women was the client of the agency and I was 456 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: going to be working on that team, working on their 457 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: social media accounts. And it was I mean, I thought like, 458 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, this is a few bigsceps when I 459 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: left my law job. I'm actually going to get some 460 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 3: kind of paycheck doing something that I find it interesting. 461 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: But then about six months later, six months into it, 462 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: I thought, oh, man, like I'm still not telling my 463 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: story as an athlete. I really feel like I have 464 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: a point of view that it's not being told. You know, 465 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 3: this unapologetic voice of a female athlete who was not 466 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: always an athlete, and I wasn't necessarily seeing people like 467 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: us represented in that story, and so I had to 468 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 3: pivot again. And the second pivot was scarier than the first, 469 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 3: because the first one was like, all right, I'm jumping 470 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: off the cliff, and then the second is like, well, 471 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: you haven't even built your rings yet and you're about 472 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: to jump off the other one. Yeah, but that was 473 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 3: the right choice because I was forced situationally to kind 474 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: of really think hard about what my dream job would be. 475 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: It'd be like, what kind of partnerships and collaborations would 476 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: be your dream job? And on my vision board, I 477 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: had that I wanted to work with a modern company 478 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 3: with like amazing hardware and technology first, and literally a 479 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: year later Peloton. You know, I read about Pelton and 480 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 3: John Polly, So this is like, none of this is accidental, 481 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: but I had to create. I had to exercise the 482 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 3: right no in order for the right yes to appear. Right, 483 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: I think there's a I think there's a lot of 484 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: things I want to jump into. 485 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: First of all, I think a lot of people struggle 486 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: with this idea and do I want to pursue my 487 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: personal brand or do I want to put my skill 488 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: set into another brand. You obviously felt super passionate about 489 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: telling your story. Do you think that was kind of 490 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: the jumping off point, like that was why you knew 491 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: you had to do it? 492 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 493 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think coming off the heels of 494 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 3: wrestling excess dentially honestly with like why am I here? 495 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 3: Why do I survive this? Just having a gun to 496 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 3: my head? So I was still wrestling with that kind 497 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: of spiritual thing. And I started telling my story on 498 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: social media and people, you know, handfuls of the time 499 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: started paying attention on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook whatever, 500 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 3: and that community really felt like a community to men. 501 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: I was like, wow, like there are people in this 502 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 3: world who who also want to show up to you know, a. 503 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: Race, wearing whatever they want to wear. 504 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: And they might have like lipstick or rings, or they 505 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: might work in a band, or they might be in fashion, 506 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 3: and they're still doing this thing, and we can uncheck 507 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 3: all of these other ways that we've been siloed and 508 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: come together and creator a movement. 509 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: Right And did you know at the time that you 510 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: could monetize that girl? The day I stopped accepting free shoes, 511 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: my life changed. 512 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 3: I said, no, my this meeting is now and now 513 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 3: comes with a consultant fee. Yeah, this pick your brain 514 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: moment is no longer a pick your brain moment. I 515 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: will be invoicing you for this talk, because then my 516 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: idea is be taken and use for photo shoots and 517 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: use for campaigns and use for marketing pitches. 518 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: And I'm like, nah, that's not how this is working. 519 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: So I had to snatch my power back in that moment, 520 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: and a lot of people said no. A lot of 521 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: people said no, and I just had to accept that 522 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: and know that within time. 523 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: It would come. 524 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: Did you get did you ask other I guess maybe 525 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 2: people in similar positions or other consultants to get a 526 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: better idea of like what you should be charging for 527 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff? I completely made you totally went it, 528 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: completely made it up. I love hearing that and it 529 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 2: makes me laugh because I sat down. Hayden Slater from 530 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: Press Juicery was on the podcast and he was on 531 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: a phone call and he tells me that the web 532 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: developer is like, so, how much is the juice? And 533 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: he's like, one second, let me check my notes, and 534 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: he puts the mute button on. He looks to his 535 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: cool founder's like, how much is the juice? He's like 536 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: maybe seven to fifty. He goes that sounds too expensive. 537 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: He's like, how about five dollars? She goes, no, They're 538 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: like six fifty sounds good. 539 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: It's six fifty. 540 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: And like, I feel like that's such a common theme 541 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: with with young entrepreneurs or I mean old onentrepreneurs as 542 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: entrepreneurs in general. It's like when you start understanding what 543 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: your true worth is, that's when people are gonna offer 544 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: you your true worth. When you're gonna when you're gonna 545 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: speak up and say it. And sometimes you know you're 546 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: gonna have to be okay with being told no. But 547 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: those aren't the people that you want to mess with anyway, exactly. Oh, curate, 548 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: curate the collaborations that you want to work with. Don't 549 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: just say yes to any. 550 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: Old client who comes to the door or any old 551 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 3: person who's willing to sign a check for you, Like 552 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: that could be like I really believe the energy is 553 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: it is frequency, right, and I and I really give 554 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: energy and with Pelton collaboratively like sell my energy on 555 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: the bike and content in classes and in instruction and 556 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 3: that needs to be in order for it to feel real. 557 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: It's got to You've got to find the right partners 558 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: you got. 559 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: It's just like a radio frequency, like not that that 560 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 3: that that radio frequency doesn't rock with me. 561 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: I gotta keep it moving. And there's no shame in 562 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: saying no. 563 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 3: It's very very good opportunities that other people would be like, oh, 564 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 3: how could you not take that? 565 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 566 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: I don't, that wasn't my vibe. 567 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: What I would love to hear about is now you 568 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: getting started with Peloton. So you also you mentioned that 569 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: you have this vision board. Something else I want to 570 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: talk about. Let's talk about your vision board before we 571 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: even get to Peloton. A lot of people talk about 572 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: having a vision board, and it feels so daunting to 573 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: create it. 574 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: How long have you had it? What's on it? What 575 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: was on it? 576 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: Then? 577 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: What's on it now? 578 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: Talk about this is actually this conversation is inspiring me 579 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 3: to do a new one. But the vision board that 580 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: I had when I was really having that post agency, 581 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 3: pre any other any other income coming in moment, was 582 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 3: really just like I needed to see, not just think 583 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: about or talk about. I needed to physically see on paper. 584 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 3: This might be also the analytical lawyer in me a plan, 585 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: and so I just went through magazines and kind of 586 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: pulled out whatever jumped out at me, and then specific 587 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 3: things like, for example, like I loved how modern and 588 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 3: sleep Apple products looked. 589 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: So I literally just put up like. 590 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: The Apple logo, like little things like that, like what 591 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: kind of brand partnerships would make me feel proud? 592 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: Like what kind of like Oprah's obviously on there? 593 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: Still, hey girl, you know Beyonce is on there, like 594 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: people who I admire and respect, people I want to 595 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 3: work with words words that I feel like are my 596 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: brand values. It really is just like the visual conversation 597 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 3: and then slapping it up. And of course you can 598 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 3: do this digitally, but for me, the tactile feeling of 599 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: like writing things out and cutting things out was very 600 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: cathartic for me. I really do believe I manifested things 601 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: that I have in my life now because I was 602 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 3: able to fine tune, you know, speaking of radio frequency, 603 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: like that was fine tuning my antenna so people could 604 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 3: find me. 605 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: I know, and I mean and shut up and rotten. 606 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: One of your tips for getting out the door is 607 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: surround yourself with inspiration. So you're saying that This is 608 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: how you surround yourself with inspiration on a regular basis. 609 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 3: I still do my alarm clock says do epic shit, 610 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: My I have post its on my mirror. 611 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: I've got I mean, I'm covered, I am wearing. 612 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: If I could wear, you know, inspiration in like a cloak, 613 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 3: I would because I believe that that that keeps that 614 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: keeps my intentions pure. 615 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 2: So Peloton, how does it happen? 616 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: That is like how does it happen? 617 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: Like how do you like one day you're just like 618 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 2: on the street, You're wearing like some Doc Martins, and 619 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: someone's like, I think you should probably get on a bike. 620 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: So I I read about John Foley and I thought 621 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: this company is And this was like when John Foley's 622 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: articles were a blurb, not you know, front page right, 623 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: So but you know the company. The company was formed 624 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: and and they definitely had some money and they were 625 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: going to be opening up the New York City studio. 626 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: And I emailed him directly and I was like, hmmm, 627 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: pretty sure our visions are aligned. 628 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: Let me work for you. What were you doing at 629 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: this point? 630 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: At this point, I was teaching at a very small 631 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: studio in Union Square called Revolve, and I was writing, 632 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: you know, I was just writing like blog content and 633 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: pitching articles that nobody ever read, and you know, just 634 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 3: rarely trying to like Hustle's journalists and for the and 635 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: of course running a ton and running coaching, but that 636 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: never really made any money. 637 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: You know. 638 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: It was just more like I had I had passions, 639 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: but if you're not getting paid, it's not a job. 640 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 3: So you know, I was really in this wrestling with like, 641 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: how the hell am I going to make this work? 642 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: I know what I love and I don't know how 643 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: to get paid for it yet. 644 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: And the consultancies were great, but they were not consistent, 645 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: so you know, it was it was how how do 646 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 3: I really like have an income stream that makes it? 647 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: And things kind of hit all at the same time. 648 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: I started getting like modeling gigs, I got an agent 649 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: at WMA. You know, Peloton happened, and like it was 650 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 3: all the seeds I had planted for about a decade, 651 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 3: we're finally sprouting. So you know, you got to plan 652 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: all those seeds and if you don't know what's going 653 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: to come from it, because. 654 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: Literally people aren't calling me. 655 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: Now who I met in London who didn't you know 656 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: they were very nice, but they didn't know who I was. 657 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: And now now I'm getting the phone calls. 658 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: So what happened after he's on the email? And also 659 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: like how many times did you read the email before 660 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: you said it? Because sometimes I do like a twelve, 661 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: like a cycle of twelve and then I'm like, okay, 662 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: this is good to go. 663 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: I forgot, you know. I think I. 664 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: Remember being so sure that this was the right marriage 665 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: of sorts, you know, Pelton, myself and Pelton, that I 666 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: just pres sent. I was brazen. I was just like, 667 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: this is my these these are my people mm hmm, 668 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: or at least this is my vision. Like wow, like 669 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: on a global scale, I can it can be involved 670 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: in the technology company that produces fitness. 671 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: This is amazing. So yeah, it happened pretty quickly. 672 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: I email John Pollie and I was in the office 673 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: what we used to call the closet. 674 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: Where we produce. 675 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: We produce our very first cycling episodes. Within five days, 676 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 3: I was the third instructor hired. 677 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: Wow, and you are hired within five days. Like it 678 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: was like, hey, nice to meet you, Let's do this. Yes, wow, Yeah, 679 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: it was it like a pinch me moment. 680 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: Pinch me, Yeah, for sure, but also it was still 681 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: it was very scrappy, so it wasn't like walking into 682 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 3: this glossy thing. And I felt everyone anyone who's still 683 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: the company, who was with us then believed and still believes. 684 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: And I was literally just telling John this morning when 685 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: we were at the Treade Experiential event, I'm like, not 686 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: only do we like drink the kool Aid, we like 687 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 3: we're making the kool aid, Like we believe in this stuff. 688 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 3: And I do believe that Peloton is gonna be the 689 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: greatest fitness brand in the world. 690 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: All right, So at that time, we're like so far 691 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: away from where the brand is now. So what I 692 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: would love for you to do, just for people that 693 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: might not be familiar with the Peloton brand, is talk 694 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: a little bit about what the Peloton brand used to 695 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: offer and what they've added to the brand since. 696 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: So when you signed on, it was cycling. Yes, so 697 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: it was a cycling So we sell hardware, which. 698 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: Is a bike equipped with a beautiful screen that streams 699 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: live and on demand classes from our New York City 700 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: studio fourteen hours a day of live programming and tune 701 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: out gosh ten thousand plus classes on demand of Spin 702 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: of spin classes, and we've now since launched our tread 703 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: which has boot camp classes running only classes a combination 704 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: of the two. And we have floor we have stretching, 705 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: we have warm Upe, we have cool Down, we have yoga, 706 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: we have it's a one step shop at this point. 707 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: And on digital, Pelton Digital also launched and now with 708 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 3: the Pelton App, our members can access that content from anywhere. 709 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: And so can you have just a Peloton Digital membership 710 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: without owning any of the Peloton equipment. 711 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and a lot of a lot of It's it's 712 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: cool for now. 713 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: Like people who do not have either the financial means 714 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 3: or access to a bike or a tread, they can 715 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 3: still work out with me around the world. 716 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm happy that that. 717 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: Digital family is being built because that's that's access. You 718 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: can just jump on the app and you don't you 719 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: don't ever have to buy. 720 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: The hardware, although we'd love you too. I'm sure. I'm sure. 721 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: So when you started, like, did you have any concept 722 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: of exactly like how big that this brand was going 723 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: to grow? I mean, and you knew obviously that eventually 724 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: you would be in homes quote unquote around the country, 725 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: But did you anticipate this. 726 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, Yes I did, because I'm a 727 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: dreamer and a hustler and this company is comprised of 728 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: dreamers who are willing to work. 729 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: Their asses off. 730 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 3: So I knew not in the ways you never know 731 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 3: the path. The path to success is absolutely circuitous. But 732 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 3: you know, if you're climbing a mountain, you're get up 733 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: to that mountaintop. And the analogy I use is that 734 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 3: we are we're building, We're literally building the path to 735 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: the Emerald City as we're walking to the Emerald City and. 736 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: Then people join us. 737 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: And truly, like that Wizard of Oz, analogy is like 738 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 3: I'm building the yellow brick Road and I'm okay with that. 739 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 3: I'm okay with building the yellowriick road because my we 740 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: are getting there. So yeah, I did believe that we 741 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: would get to this point, and I believe we're going 742 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 3: to get. 743 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: Far, far, further, far further. 744 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: Can you remember some of those early interactions you had 745 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: with at home writers and for people that are following 746 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: a lot, obviously to know is that there is the 747 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: New York City studio on twenty third Street for the 748 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: bike and then the Tread Studio, which is down in 749 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: the West Village technically the best pillage yep one fifty Christter. Okay, 750 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: So there's the tread studio in the West Village, and 751 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: so there are rids and runners in the studio, but 752 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: then there are also the people at home. It's probably 753 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 2: a lot to handle, like handling and managing that in class. Ye, 754 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: making sure that you feel like no one's neglected at home. 755 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: Did that take you a little while to kind of 756 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: figure out, like how to balance the two of them. 757 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 3: I mean absolutely, I would probably cringe if I if 758 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: I saw footage of my very first classes. I mean, 759 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 3: we were all evolving. If we didn't, we wouldn't see 760 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: where we are. Teaching at Pelton is truly the hardest 761 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 3: job of instruction within the fitness industry period And that's 762 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 3: why it's a very small bullseye in recruiting our team, 763 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: and I really feel like we recruit, we're recruiting like 764 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 3: a team of the Avengers or like superheroes, you know, 765 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: where each person is kind of bringing their own flavor 766 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 3: in their own point of view and their own training 767 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 3: style and esthetic conversation and musical stylings. 768 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: And that I'm very, very proud of that because It's super. 769 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 3: Hard to find people who can negotiate not only the fitness, 770 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: credibility and authenticity, but look amazing doing it, working out 771 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 3: the entire time that we walk the walk, we run. 772 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: The run, we cycle, we bike the bike. 773 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 3: You know, it's real what we're doing up there, but 774 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 3: it's what's even more real are the relationships that we 775 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 3: have with our members, you know, hundreds of thousands around 776 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: the world. 777 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 2: You said something that I think is really interesting in 778 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: the like we look great doing it. 779 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: I think it's stressful. 780 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: As someone who was for a long time and instructor 781 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: herself and kind of took a step back recently, I 782 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: was stressed out a little bit, feeling like I maybe 783 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 2: had to look a certain way or wanted to present 784 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: myself in a certain way for the people that were 785 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 2: coming to take my class. 786 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: Does that ever weigh on you when you're up there. 787 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I would be lying if I 788 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: didn't have a constant awareness of the visual conversation I 789 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: am having with the world. I mean when you are 790 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 3: in and I think honestly a lot of people are 791 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 3: feeling this simply just because you always have a camera 792 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: in your face, whether you're literally in front of five 793 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 3: cameras like you are at Peloton, or whether it's just 794 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 3: your iPhone or your cell phone or your camera. 795 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: Or you know, your computer. I wrestle with that too. 796 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: I think everybody does. 797 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 3: And I'm happy that you bring that up because it's 798 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: I want to be honest with people who then will 799 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 3: go to my Instagram and be like, comment, how do 800 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 3: I get those abs? 801 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: How do I get that? 802 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 3: And say, I work out four hours a day and 803 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 3: my job is literally to be healthy and. 804 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: Lead by example. 805 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: I don't expect everyone to have the same results if 806 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 3: they're not putting in the same amount of time. That's 807 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 3: important for people to understand is that we can unlock 808 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 3: potential in you, but you can't expect the same results 809 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 3: as someone who's literally. 810 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: Just putting in their entire life's work into this. How 811 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: do you keep that mental conversation healthy? 812 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 2: And I guess also I mean, like wall working out 813 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 2: four hours a day, like keeping like a reasonable expectation 814 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: of what you're foremant should be because recovery has to 815 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 2: be a big piece of this. 816 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: So I guess there's two questions here. 817 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: The first part is how do you keep the mental 818 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: dialogue and like, maybe body positivity a part of your 819 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: whole shtick here, because it's got to be a big 820 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: part of the conversation. 821 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: Well, thankfully there's been such it's been so buzzy. 822 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 3: Like thankfully that conversation has been buzzy at the time 823 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 3: when I selfishly have needed it, you know. So I 824 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 3: look at people who I really admire, like SHANEI we 825 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 3: were just talking about Shane Alexander, you know, like people 826 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 3: like that, like people who I get to work with 827 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 3: on the Adidas Women and Creator Network, who are just 828 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 3: standing in their power in whatever like way that means 829 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 3: and whatever shape size story that unfolds. And it's important 830 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 3: for me to see examples of that because we all 831 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: have that little inner hater and it's so loud. But thankfully, 832 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 3: my biggest way to exercise that muscle of willpower and 833 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 3: discipline and self love has always been movement. So I 834 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 3: usually I can quiet it by joining a class or 835 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 3: having a run, where that's my reset fund. So when 836 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 3: I'm running, I'm not thinking about how I'm looking. When 837 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 3: I'm running, I'm feeling the run, right, So when I'm lifting, 838 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, gosh, I'm so strong. I don't care how 839 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 3: big my thighs are, they are powerful, and so that 840 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 3: that really really helps. 841 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: That's my tool for sure. 842 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 2: An interesting thought that I've been having a lot lately 843 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 2: is we are the people that talk to ourselves the 844 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: most every single day. So like, would I talk to 845 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 2: you the way that I talk to myself? Like sometimes yeah, 846 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: but sometimes no, Like I wouldn't say like what the 847 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 2: hell are you wearing right now? 848 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: Or what? Like I would never say that to someone else. 849 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 850 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. I tell people, you know, when they ask what's 851 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 3: your biggest race day what's your biggest piece of race 852 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 3: day advice? I say, talk to yourself like you would 853 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 3: have loved one I asked somebody in class the other day, 854 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 3: or ask the members if your inner thoughts are on 855 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 3: a loudspeaker right. 856 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: Now, would you be proud of them? That ability to. 857 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 3: Coach yourself is so important, and I think especially when 858 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 3: you have young young eyes and young ears paying attention, 859 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 3: like parents really need to pay attention what they're saying 860 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 3: to the saying out loud about themselves when their kids 861 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 3: are watching. Thankfully, my mother and father showed such amazing 862 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 3: examples of strength and confidence and resilience growing up that 863 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 3: that has been a through line throughout my entire life. 864 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 3: But like, we can really be leading examples of positivity 865 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 3: and it all starts with the voice in our head 866 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 3: for sure. 867 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 2: So what is your go to piece of advice for 868 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: someone who's ready to get started but doesn't even know 869 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 2: how to begin. 870 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 3: I would say two things. No goal is too small. 871 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 3: We tend to hear or perceive overnight success stories like 872 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 3: the person who lost three hundred pounds or like the amazing, 873 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 3: and it's like amazing, They're incredibly inspiring, but it's daunting 874 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 3: to look at someone who's already who started their race 875 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 3: at a different start line and now you're looking at 876 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 3: their finish line and you're thinking, damn, how do I 877 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 3: do that? 878 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: So I would say no goal was too small. 879 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 3: I think keeping keeping goals like specific and measurable. You 880 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 3: know that acadym smart, specific, measurable, attainable, realistic, and time bound. 881 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 3: That that is essential and honestly, that is how I 882 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 3: live my life, like, it's not just I'll have like 883 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: weekly goals, monthly goals, six month goals, five year goals, 884 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 3: and that that makes it more palatable and digestible. So 885 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 3: start with one small thing you don't have to do 886 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 3: an overhaul of your entire fridge and your schedule and 887 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 3: your sleep time. 888 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: And it's like start with one thing. Maybe tomorrow you 889 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: just go to bed a little earlier, and then you 890 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: do that in the. 891 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 3: Next dent, you know, like unpacked, how to set yourself 892 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 3: up for success. We are so so tough on ourselves 893 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 3: specific to running, and I would I would say, go 894 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 3: out in minutes, not miles. Don't worry about like all 895 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 3: the technology. Just get a pay of running shoes and 896 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 3: a sports bra and like, go for ten minutes. You 897 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 3: got this girl, people. That's why I wrote my book. 898 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 3: I wanted to demystify the entire running experience. It's like 899 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 3: you can just shut up and run, just go do it. 900 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: To say it is intimidating. I do get that, and 901 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 3: I was intimidated at first as well. But if you 902 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 3: lace up for five and then ten and then fifteen minutes, 903 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 3: your life will change. 904 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: You get that. I hear that. I totally hear that. 905 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: I definitely do. 906 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 2: I think the sheer act of starting is what prevents 907 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 2: so many people from doing it in the first place. 908 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 2: But you realize it's like a band aid, whether it's 909 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 2: a run, or it's asking for a meeting, or it's 910 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 2: sending that email to John Foley, or whatever the case 911 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 2: may be. It's today, I'm going to rip off the 912 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 2: band aid. Yeah, and then look at all the other 913 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 2: band aids you're able to rip off everywhere else in 914 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 2: your life, and you'll see that it's magical. 915 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, truly magical. 916 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 3: They're paralyzed by fear, and I always I think you 917 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 3: have to act it out, not figure it out. 918 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: All the time. 919 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 3: There are only somebody lists in books and podcasts, and like, 920 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 3: let's not just do it, just go and do the thing, 921 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 3: because there is only so much planning before action just 922 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 3: has to take over. 923 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 2: I've got to ask you, then, so what is one 924 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: of the goals on like maybe your month list? 925 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm trying to say, really committed to one 926 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 3: day completely off a week. 927 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: I love that goal. I think it's really hard. I 928 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: think it's kind of intimidating. 929 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 2: In the wellness industry, especially in New York City, it's 930 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 2: like we all offer this advice for people like not 931 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 2: to overtrain, and now, especially as recovery is becoming more 932 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 2: and more buzzy, we're like, you've got to recover, you've 933 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: got a fair gun, you've got a phone, blah blah 934 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: blah blah. But it's like then I'm watching you on 935 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 2: Instagram and you're on our four of your workout, and 936 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, practice what you preach? 937 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: Women? 938 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 3: Like what do you do it? And I you know 939 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 3: my name. My rhetoric is often like just go and 940 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 3: more and hustle. And I believe that and I live that. 941 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 3: But more is not always more, and I'll take and 942 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 3: you know, and you know with the long runs for 943 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 3: marathons and all this stuff. And I'm not complaining, but 944 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 3: it's like, I definitely overtrained. I would not advise people 945 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 3: to do necessarily when I do, but this. 946 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: Is my job and I love it. 947 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 3: But there are days when I'm like, ugh, do I 948 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 3: do what's in my training schedule? Or do I actually 949 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 3: sleep and rest? Because I know that's the advice I 950 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 3: would get to somebody else. I'm trying to create very 951 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 3: strict guardrails around my sundays. 952 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:06,919 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 953 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 3: Hang out with my fiance? Like planning my wedding, you know, 954 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 3: just like little breathing. You know, I find that I 955 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 3: can talk about wellness and ease and all these things, 956 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 3: but I'm not necessarily always feeling that, So I know 957 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 3: how to tune into the conversation verbally. But how the 958 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 3: hell am I feeling physically? No, I'm probably like literally 959 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 3: physically running from here to a spin class, which I am, 960 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 3: and then it's going to my own training session, and 961 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 3: then it's going to do another interview, and then it's 962 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 3: teaching another class, and then I'm collapsing. I'm doing it 963 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 3: again tomorrow, and it's like the adrenaline keeps me going, 964 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 3: but I have to create the same guardrails around my 965 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 3: rest that I would advise someone else to do. 966 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: Usually people have issues ramping up. I have issues ramping down. 967 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: I feel you. I'm the exact same way. 968 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 2: You have an opportunity tomorrow. You here, you get the 969 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 2: tip the inside scoop. Instagram's going away tomorrow, and if 970 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 2: it goes away, you have a chance to leave one 971 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 2: more piece of epic shit on your Instagram, like one 972 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 2: last thing that you want your community, your people to 973 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,439 Speaker 2: read every single day. 974 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: What do you tell them? I would say to ask themselves, 975 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: why not me? Why not me? Why not you? Why 976 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 1: not you to get that job? 977 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 3: Why not you to have that amazing partner, Why not 978 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 3: you to get paid what you should be worth? 979 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: Why not you? 980 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 3: I think we tend to see other people's success stories 981 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 3: as somebody else's success story. And the moment I started 982 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 3: asking why not me? Is really when everything that was 983 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 3: the tipping point. So that's what I would submit to 984 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 3: your listeners. 985 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 1: The last thing and then the last thing real talk. 986 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: You have a chance right now looking back on that 987 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 2: twenty year old on Second Avenue and you get the 988 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 2: opportunity to offer her at her hurdle moment one. 989 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: Piece of advice. 990 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 2: What is the thing that you tell your twenty year 991 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 2: old self now looking back on. 992 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 3: It, I would say, trust your struggle because you will 993 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 3: have the ability to turn pain into power. 994 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: I love it. Robin, Thank you so much for coming 995 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,959 Speaker 1: in here today. Thank you so so fun, so fun. 996 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: Please take a moment to leave a quick review by 997 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 2: clicking the link with the description to this episode. We 998 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 2: all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to hear 999 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 2: about yours. Reach out to me at Emily at Hurdle 1000 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,720 Speaker 2: dot us. Connect with the podcast on Instagram and Twitter 1001 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 2: at Hurdle Podcast. 1002 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: Robin, Where did they find you? Where do they find Peloton? 1003 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: Give me the whole scoop. 1004 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 3: So at one, Peloton one, peloton dot com, and at 1005 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 3: robin NYC thanks for having me. 1006 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 1007 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 2: I am at Emily a body on Instagram. Another hurdle conquered. 1008 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time.