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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 3: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 3: a sibling, Rayvalry, No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 2: You don't do that with your mouth, Revelry. That's good, Oliver.

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Speaker 2: I love our next guest. I have not siblings. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to make love, Oliver Hudson. This stop saying easing.

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Speaker 3: I did make love to her. I get it. Jenny McCarthy,

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Hot, hot, iconic, iconic, hot, Jenny McCarthy and always like always, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, topical, somehow always ends up being topical, afraid, unafraid,

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Speaker 2: says what she wants. That's what she wants. I'm excited

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Speaker 2: to speak with her and her sister, Lynette. We're about

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Speaker 2: you know what you can ask?

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you are sure? No, just ask her, just

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Speaker 3: say are.

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Speaker 2: You she's already come see.

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Speaker 3: I love how they just letting.

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Speaker 2: People come in because hello, Hi, hi girls. Oh my gosh, Lynette.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at your picture on here and I

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Speaker 2: was like, you, look, this picture looks like Kristen will

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Speaker 2: I thought it was christ Is Jenny's sister, Kristen Webb.

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Speaker 1: I get that all the time. Every time I post

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Speaker 1: a video of bus doing something, They're all, I, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I didn't know, you know, Christian Weig. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: it's my fucking sister.

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Speaker 3: That is. Are where are you guys right now?

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Speaker 1: Saint Charles Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're Illinois? Are you? Where are you from? Originally Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing an accent. I'm doing a Wisconsin accent in

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Speaker 2: my next movie.

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Speaker 3: Are you so?

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Speaker 2: I'm currently yeah, hear it because we were. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: just learning how to do it. So it's sort of

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Speaker 2: like I do lots of I very soon. Well it's

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Speaker 2: about a month and I say, are you know hard

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Speaker 2: all of those things? And I do that. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm learning how to do it. I'm getting pretty good

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Speaker 2: at it.

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Speaker 1: You know what, you just have to wash again. You

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Speaker 1: know that's in Wisconsin, but.

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Speaker 2: It's Wisconsin doesn't do the olds. They don't do right,

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Speaker 2: they're like more nasally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, big time. I think me more than you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, But I don't want it to be like

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Speaker 2: a tchure. You know where I live a setting and

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Speaker 2: I'm talking like this, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, it's got to be subtlest to be got to

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Speaker 3: be subtle. Yes, it's got to be subtle.

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Speaker 2: So you guys, why are you in Illinois right now?

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Speaker 1: I live here? Yeah, I lived it. I grew up here.

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Speaker 1: Then I moved to LA for twenty years, and then

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Speaker 1: I was like, I need to get the hell out

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Speaker 1: of the city. So about fourteen years ago I came

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Speaker 1: back and and then Donnie came to visit me. When

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Speaker 1: we started dating, he fell in love with the area.

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Speaker 1: So it was like, and then she was living in

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Speaker 1: Where were you?

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Speaker 4: I was in California for twenty years, and then when

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Speaker 4: Jenny came back, I kind of followed.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I just went home, is it all?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so. How far away are you from Chicago?

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Speaker 1: Got an hour? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you and I want to get out of LA.

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Speaker 2: Aren't you in New York for a while though.

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Speaker 1: I was, I, well, I we did. My home base

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Speaker 1: and back back literally every week for seven years.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I did your show. I'm serious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: But I was smart because I went to the boss

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Speaker 1: and I was like, listen, I'm a mom. I need

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Speaker 1: to be a mom. Thanking so much? Can I have

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Speaker 1: Can I do the show from home Mondays and Fridays?

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Speaker 1: So this way I have a long, you know, weekend

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Speaker 1: with my son in two extra days, and then I

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Speaker 1: come to New York for those other days to be

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Speaker 2: And then and then so when you're doing the mask singer,

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Speaker 2: where is that in La?

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Speaker 3: That's La?

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Speaker 2: So you just come in for a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: do it, and then go back up with fun.

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Speaker 3: I just had dinner. I just had dinner with Ken

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Speaker 3: last night. I was with Ken last Can I tell.

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Speaker 1: You, did you know that we do a Barbie episode? Yes? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So Ken has never been more excited to be Ken

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Speaker 1: in our fing Barbie episode. Say do you have an

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Speaker 1: opening on this episode? It was like the Oscars, you

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Speaker 1: know the Oscars Kids, was like this grand opening Barbie.

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Speaker 1: They have a big giant barbietwel. I'm like, hey, I've

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Speaker 1: got Barbie hair, and I get shown to the side.

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Speaker 1: I don't get anything.

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Speaker 2: You're like, I am Barbie Mormon.

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Speaker 3: He I had never gotten to hang out with him.

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Speaker 3: He is the sweetest man. He is so nice and

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Speaker 3: so sweet. And we were out at dinner with a

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Speaker 3: bunch of people, and we got into like such a

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Speaker 3: deep conversation.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I have a bump or rash, I'll just lean

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Speaker 1: over and be like, can you tell me what this thing?

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Speaker 4: I had a crazy transition of careers to go from doctor.

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Speaker 3: So I think in comedy, right, yeah, no, you stand up?

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Speaker 3: You know? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know?

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Speaker 2: All right, ladies. How many siblings are there? How many

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Speaker 2: McCarthy's four altogether?

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Speaker 1: Four girls?

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Speaker 3: Four girls?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And what's the what's the order?

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm the oldest. Then there's me and then Jojo

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Speaker 1: and then Amy and we're all two years apart. Lennet, Jenny,

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Speaker 1: Jojo Amy.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Oh my gosh, Okay, how is that household?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 4: We lived in a household that had one bathroom at

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Speaker 4: one time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one bathroom. So my dad would get up for

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Speaker 1: work and be like get out, so we'd all just scramble.

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Speaker 1: But my mom was also a hairdresser, so she kind

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Speaker 1: of groomed us to always care about our hair. So

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Speaker 1: you can hear the Chicago accent hair cared. We care

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Speaker 1: about the hair, and we would get our hair boufonted, done, permed,

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Speaker 1: you know, every single day, and it was every I

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Speaker 1: mean the house was literally like the most insane beauty parlor.

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Speaker 4: There was like a film of all set on.

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Speaker 1: Everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so cute.

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Speaker 3: Would you guys do each other's hair or was it?

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Speaker 1: No? No, we had way different styles. Me and her

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Speaker 1: It was like Daria and her sister. It was like

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Speaker 1: she was like, I call it goff. Yeah I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think it was like that we called the alternative

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Speaker 3: Emo. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was like into the Smiths.

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Speaker 4: More's still somebody in my yes, and I love Madonna,

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Speaker 1: What I mean. I was like the prom.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it couldn't make more sense. I were just

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Speaker 3: looking at you guys totally, you know.

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Speaker 2: So that's I mean, that's that's the best.

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Speaker 3: So it was the eighties, right, and so you would

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Speaker 3: be dressing in a certain way that represented a certain

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Speaker 3: eighties look, and you were a totally different eighties look.

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Speaker 1: I had the the perm and the big giant bangs

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Speaker 1: and then in high school we were we didn't get

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. But we went to an all girl

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Speaker 1: Catholic school. She would never even say hello to me.

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Speaker 1: We'd pass each other in the hollway, she'd be like,

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Speaker 1: which that was.

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Speaker 3: Our physical fights, like fist fights.

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Speaker 1: I punched her once in the nose. I threw something

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Speaker 1: and hurt her nose once, but it was a lot

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Speaker 1: more emotional damage than each other.

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Speaker 4: But it was It's funny because we were pulled her opposites.

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Speaker 1: But it was always about clothes because.

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Speaker 4: Jenny would always steal my clothing and it would just

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Speaker 1: Am I I'd never see it again. And then I started.

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Speaker 4: I found out that she was hiding it in a

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Speaker 4: in a cooler and someone that was like ruined and

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Speaker 4: damaged because you know, underage drinking. She would go out

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Speaker 3: Then store it.

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Speaker 2: And this story.

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Speaker 3: That is so funny. And now I'm jumping ahead here,

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Speaker 3: but you guys are obviously in love now, right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: So you know, at what point does that risk get

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Speaker 3: healed turn out? You know what I mean? Huh?

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Speaker 1: Probably when we had children.

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Speaker 3: Oh so that that late kind I know, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't like, oh, we're eighteen or nineteen

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Speaker 1: Are separate ways in life.

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Speaker 4: We would see each other for maybe holidays, but we didn't.

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Speaker 1: We weren't really chummy with each other.

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Speaker 4: And then you're right, we kind of had kids, our

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Speaker 4: lives settled, We went through divorces, and then Jenny moved

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Speaker 4: back here for one reason.

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Speaker 1: I moved back for another.

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Speaker 4: And then right now we live eight minutes from each other,

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Speaker 4: so that really brought us closer together. It's so nice

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Speaker 4: to have family that close. So I think that just.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like improved our relationship. It's it. And the

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Speaker 1: weird thing is we're both our tastes are still so

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Speaker 1: polar opposite, especially with men, but and in clothes and like,

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Speaker 1: I would never ever go for the mullet hairstyle that's

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Speaker 1: in right now, you know, I mean, whereas she and

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Speaker 1: look at I'm still trying to be Barbie, but we're

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Speaker 1: in our personalities. That's been so weird that I only

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Speaker 1: I enjoy being with her more than anybody besides my husband,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like, Jenny hold On, give your assessment of what kind

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Speaker 3: of a man that she is into? Okay, and how

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Speaker 3: am I differ from you? Or no? Then then then

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Speaker 3: Lenette you can do the Then you can do the

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Speaker 3: same for her.

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Speaker 1: What do I call it?

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Speaker 4: You know the spot mak guys like, oh wait, you

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Speaker 4: made from a long time ago, like Mike myerst it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I know exactly what wasn't it? Like Chris Catan

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Speaker 2: rockets and it was this procket.

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Speaker 1: Like very still alternative, very new age somebody I would

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Speaker 4: Like It's funny because I think, like I really go

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Speaker 4: on personality. Not to insult anybody. I hate to say

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Speaker 4: anybody that I dated that I go for personality because

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Speaker 4: that kind of excludes their looks. But I've been really

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Speaker 4: lucky to date you know, good personality and a good

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Speaker 4: looking guy. But I think I've had a really broad

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like this Italian.

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Speaker 1: Just to be a job. It wasn't like this glorious career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, because we would eat dinner on the

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Speaker 4: Heard this, we were a little disappointed that they never

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Speaker 1: And you don't realize how poor you are until you,

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Speaker 2: Now, did you feel like growing up, like, did you

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Speaker 1: Our mom was more or less a stay at home mom. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I assumed it. Do you remember seeing on you could

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Speaker 4: I always played by the rules and I'm still trying

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Speaker 3: What do you what do you attribute that to? You

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Speaker 4: I do think that, you know, being the the you know,

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Speaker 1: And then it was even less with Jojo and Love.

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Speaker 3: So Jojo and Amy are they just completely bonkers feral

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I was still I still win the

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Speaker 1: award for the black Sheep. Yeah, like one that was,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, hair hair just got higher and higher.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, we were younger, we did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It wasn't like screaming. It was just sort of disregarding.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want anything to do with her, and she

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Speaker 2: It was more traumatic and sad.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, at least at least at least with a fight.

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Speaker 2: You know that you're paying intention to seeing in the Godfather,

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Speaker 3: Right, it was definitely more tragic.

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Speaker 1: Ours were dramatic and scarring.

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Speaker 3: Are they still traumatic? Like? Is it still? When you

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Speaker 1: There's scars in my heart still. I mean, we should

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Speaker 1: share some of them if you don't mind, because they're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, let's work into it.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's two that are equal.

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Speaker 4: I know, one's got to be the underwear, yeah and

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Speaker 2: Which one is the go for the least traumatizing.

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Speaker 1: So the least traumatizing was I had a high school

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Speaker 1: He was my Joni loves Chachi, he was everything. Okay,

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Speaker 4: This and a regular thing where I don't really feel

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Speaker 1: So the only way getting back at her was emotionally

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Speaker 3: Emotionally exactly, just just annihilate, pure emotional annihilation.

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Speaker 1: If you're at that age, you remember how everything was

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Speaker 1: We might have even almost broke up. I can't even remember.

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Speaker 2: How do you come back from that as a sister? Like,

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Speaker 1: You mean her or me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: That's like I didn't give a ship and I don't

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Speaker 4: I think when my forensis sweater that cost me forty

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Speaker 1: Got yeah, it's okay. I'm sorry too.

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Speaker 4: When I got it back and it had a puke

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. So how did that? How did that

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Speaker 1: Was hysterically crying, getting bad, and then I go to

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Speaker 1: So why don't you do it? You mean just talking

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Speaker 1: about the Underwears episode about my drawer? Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 4: I I started doing my laundry by myself in the

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Speaker 1: So this is how.

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Speaker 2: Bad Jenny, Oh my god. So now seeing how you

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: I went in my drawer one day and I see

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Speaker 1: it's Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: I go where in the hell I know where my Wednesday,

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00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 5: underwear is it's on Jenny, And I was living.

445
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: Because you can take a sweater, but wearing my underwear.

446
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: And then she also knew I figured out how to

447
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: break into the room. Yes, the padlock, that's another thing.

448
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 4: So we were a small girls Catholic high school wearing uniforms,

449
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 4: and so I knew she started earlier than me. So

450
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 4: I got there before classes changed over, and it was

451
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 4: almost like I was like, was it lying in wait?

452
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: I was fighting in like the darkness of a classroom

453
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 4: that wasn't occupied.

454
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: She was waiting for me, for all the classes to

455
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,959
Speaker 1: come out into the hallway, so there was any people

456
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: as possible before she attacked. So she's the biggest stage ever.

457
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 3: Got it smart smart, And I knew where.

458
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 5: Her locker was, so I waited, and then there she

459
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 5: comes down the hall, goes to her locker to start

460
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 5: with her combination. I slowly walk up behind her. I

461
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,479
Speaker 5: grabbed the bottom of her skirt and yank it up

462
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 5: over her head.

463
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 4: And she holds it there, all it there, and she's

464
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 4: flailing around trying to get her skirt down, and.

465
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: I, you're wearing my oh.

466
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: In front of him, and I can't get my skirt

467
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: down because she's with all of her my and screaming

468
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: on top of lines. Oh and like I'm turning around

469
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: people going like all the girls and I'm jollying.

470
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 3: Wow, that is big.

471
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: It was big. It was horrible.

472
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 3: I'm picturing underwear with literally like the it says Wednesday

473
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: on the ass, Like was it on the no, it

474
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 3: was on the push. So did you under actually say Monday, Tuesday,

475
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 3: Wednesday Thursday on the underwear?

476
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 2: Those are girls like those little things I have. I

477
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: I still have my week weekday.

478
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 3: And what if you wear like a Tuesday on a Saturday.

479
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: I do that all the time.

480
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: We didn't have but we didn't have a lot of money,

481
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: so I always got her brass hand me down to anyways.

482
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm like, well, what's the difference. I'm

483
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: out of underwear, I might as well break in what.

484
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: She didn't know what the padlock is. I never figured

485
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: out the numb combination. I just unscrewed where the screws

486
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: were all holding the lock right, took the screws down,

487
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: opened the door, and then screwed it back in. Talk

488
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: about gas lighting.

489
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 4: I literally would go in my drawer and start to

490
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 4: see things were missing, and I'm thinking I didn't wear that.

491
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: I had no.

492
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: Idea where things were going until underwear. Then I figured

493
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: it out.

494
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: Wow, But how about your other sisters? I mean, where

495
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 3: were they when this was all going on? Were they

496
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 3: a part of the madness?

497
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: They just watched in horror? They didn't They didn't fight

498
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: like this. Now it's only us two, like we really

499
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: thought that. I mean, there were times where we really

500
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: wanted to kill each gm, like the back. If someone

501
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: would have told us back then in the future, you

502
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: guys got to be the greatest friends, we'd be like no,

503
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: I'd be like, what alien came and kidnapped my soul

504
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: and put me as a clone? Never be friends with

505
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: this human being?

506
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: But you so you had kids. But was there there's

507
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: no need for reconciliation when you're sibl and lets it's

508
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 3: really really bad, you know what I'm saying, unless there

509
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 3: was for you guys, Like you know, Kate and I

510
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: had our differences and we fought, but we just kind

511
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: of matured into each other. Yeah, you know, I mean,

512
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: was that similar or was it like you know what,

513
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: like I fucking actually love you a lot, and let's

514
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: make it go at a real relationship.

515
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: Was it Was it more intentional?

516
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's just it slowly became like

517
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 4: a friendship, like oh we have we actually have things

518
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 4: in common, and we and we kind of sounded like

519
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: and sometimes we say the exact same thing at the exact.

520
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: Same time, and its true. You know what when you

521
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: can go somewhere and you feel like you don't have

522
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: to talk and yourself and still be entertained, Like she'll

523
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: come over and we might not even speak, but it's like,

524
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: what a great is it? Yeah?

525
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, those are the best. That's the best. That

526
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: is the best kind when you don't have to say

527
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: a fucking word.

528
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's no like thing Like I went over

529
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: to Oliver's the other day and I was like, get

530
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: more steakes because we'll come over for dinner. You like,

531
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: got one stay. Couldn't feed any of my family.

532
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: I could have, but Danny and Ronnie came to. I

533
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: didn't know they were coming to three would have fed you.

534
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: I was like left not before she started cleaning, cleaning,

535
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: the doing the dishes, saying oh your house is disgusting.

536
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: She's going up to the bedrooms and like all of

537
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: her like what is going on. I like, my wife

538
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: is in New York for five days. I'm doing the

539
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: best I can as far as the cleaning and the

540
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 3: kids and the cooking and everything. Oh gosh, she immediately

541
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: comes in like that, what is the smell of?

542
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: Like just like we don't we did nothing?

543
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: Move no, right, I'm like.

544
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: The stagnant smell.

545
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 3: Just leave leave me alone.

546
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: I think I will say there was one memory I

547
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: have just one memory of actually just like two. I'll

548
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: go to the one where I thought that she really

549
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: came through in my in our youth, and it was

550
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: I posed for Playboy back in the day, and I

551
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: went to an all girl Catholic school, and my dad

552
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: worked two jobs to put us through Catholic school. I

553
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: have three answer nuns, a couple uncles that are priests.

554
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: Like it goes on and on and on. That's what

555
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: I would pose. But I didn't know how to get

556
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: to La to make my dreams come true because I

557
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: was twenty thousand dollars in debt from college and I'm like,

558
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: this is all I got got to do it. So

559
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: I took the money that I got from Playboy and

560
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: I sent my parents on a cruise so they didn't

561
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: have to be around when the magazine came out, so

562
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: if there was any local news, they would be gone.

563
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: So I wrote my mom and dad a letter saying, listen,

564
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: please forgive me. I know it's probably come out, but

565
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: I have to. I'm in Los Angeles right now because

566
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: I Playboy made me fly out there to do an appearance.

567
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna just trust me. I'm going to make

568
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: good of this. I'm going to I'm going to do

569
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: what I love, and I'm going to pay you guys

570
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: back and buy you a house and all these things.

571
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: Just forgive me. So I leave, and I leave them

572
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: with letters, and I go. Lynette give them these letters

573
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: when they walk in. Now, they walk in from this cruise.

574
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: They've never gone on vacation since honeymoon, okay, unless it

575
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: was with us.

576
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was.

577
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: Like Wisconsin Dell's Okay, I was like nineteen years old.

578
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: So Lynnette gives them the letters. My mom loses her mind,

579
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: of course, and she was the one that even my

580
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: mom says this today, that made her feel like it

581
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: was okay, like.

582
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 3: See she what did you do? What did you say?

583
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: Her geeming quality?

584
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: Well, you know, they came off this cruise and they

585
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 4: were wearing their like shell necklaces, and you know, they

586
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 4: were both sunburned, and you know, they looked like they

587
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 4: really enjoyed themselves.

588
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: And so now I have.

589
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: These letters, I have to deliver this really heavy news.

590
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: So I just saw my mom like was crestfallen, her

591
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: shoulders slumped, she looked just distraught. My dad, he doesn't

592
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 4: really show a lot of emotions, so you couldn't really

593
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: read him, but my mom was really upset, and I

594
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 4: just kind of talked her through it and said, listen,

595
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 4: you know, some people can see this as being a

596
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: great thing. You know, I mean, the fact that you

597
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 4: have a daughter that's beautiful enough to be considered for Playboy,

598
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, come on.

599
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: And then she started to have people support.

600
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 4: That, and you know, again Jenny may have mentioned the

601
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 4: Catholicism in our family. We were these, like really heavy Catholics,

602
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: So this was really a problem in that respect. I

603
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: think my mom just felt bad about people judging her,

604
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: and then she had enough.

605
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: People support her that I think she felt she could

606
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: kind of keep her chin up. But I think maybe fortunately.

607
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: I might have been the catalyst for that kind of language,

608
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 4: and it kind of at least carried her a little

609
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: bit until she started getting it from friends, you.

610
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, and I'm really grateful for them. We thank you.

611
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: But what did you How did your sisters feel about

612
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: you doing Playboy and being in Playboy?

613
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 6: Oh?

614
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 4: Do you remember what I said when we're on the

615
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: porch of my grandfather's house he had since passed, and we.

616
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: Were on fortune you were I was coming in, you were.

617
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 4: Going out something like that, and Jenny said, guess what

618
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: And I said what And she said, I just found

619
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 4: out that I'm this October.

620
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: And the words that came out of my mouth were

621
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: Mom's gonna kill you? Yeah, And I was like, you

622
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: know what, I have to believe that a everyone has

623
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: a vehicle to try to get to their dream somehow,

624
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I was like, there's

625
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: the only vehicle I had to get to Hollywood. So

626
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: once then I wound up winning Playmate of the Year.

627
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: Then I had to come home and tell them my

628
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: one Playmania But you know it was as good as

629
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: I took that whole check and I went home and

630
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: this is still one of my proudest moments. Sort of

631
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: I said, give me every bill you have because they

632
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: get my whole life. And I paid for every single

633
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: bill and paid off their house, and I felt like

634
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: and they just the relief that came off one for that. Ironically, though,

635
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: they wound up getting a divorce. Like I think they

636
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: held together because we were so broke that some couple

637
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: stick together for that reason. Oh. I wound up giving

638
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: them that maybe financial independence that they were able then

639
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: to just separate.

640
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

641
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: Another side note, my mom wound up marrying her high

642
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: school sweetheart. Wow, you look my dad?

643
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

644
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: No, are they still together?

645
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: They're still together? Yeah?

646
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: And what about your dad?

647
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: Still single? Bachelor?

648
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: Really? How old your dad?

649
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: Seventy eight? Yes? So if you are a if you

650
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: guys have a mother, yeah, and loves Budweiser. Please come.

651
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: Is he still boning?

652
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

653
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: Buzz answer, good for him. How does he find his ladies?

654
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: Do you know?

655
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: I think probably via bars?

656
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: Well, you know, yeah, he does fancy the slightly younger lady,

657
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: I mean younger being forties.

658
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's for him being seventy eight.

659
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, there, he's a pretty decent looking guy.

660
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he should the next Golden Bachelor.

661
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: There you go, Oh my god, he would actually make

662
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: a great Golden Batchley you think he's a little too

663
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: old for he is.

664
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: What do you mean it's the gold I feel like, no,

665
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: we should submit your dad.

666
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd be like the Patina Bachelor. I mean he's

667
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: and you know what, you guys, he's got an archie

668
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: bunker personality. Yeah, that's it. It's like I can't believe

669
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 1: stuff that would come out of his mouth. You'd be like,

670
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like.

671
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: You can't say that anymore. Dad.

672
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: He's doing fine in the lane that he's in.

673
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: He's doing fine, but he's happy.

674
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so randy that he's like he said, you know,

675
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: he's got proud take cancer and you're supposed to take

676
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: medication for it, but it actually affects, you know, and

677
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: he's he won't take it. And I'm like, Dad, He's like,

678
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: I'd rather die than not do it. Really, God, guys.

679
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: And there she any counter it with? Like a sialis

680
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: like a little prostate, a little salis.

681
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: There's a funny story with Jojo.

682
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: They were at a local restaurant on the South side

683
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: of Chicago, where my mom and dad both reside separately.

684
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: But he's my younger sister.

685
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Jojo was out with dad and apparently they

686
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: were sitting over pizza talk and he ended up going

687
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: to see a urologist that gave him a medication that

688
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 4: you have to actually inject into your member.

689
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

690
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he was talking to my sister Jojo about

691
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 4: this and he said, I'm Mackie's voice.

692
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: Is sort of like I'm not really sure if it's

693
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: gonna work or not.

694
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: Jo said, And this is how my family operates, Well, Dan,

695
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: just rub one out, injected, just rub one out and

696
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: see if it works.

697
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like most family talks this way.

698
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 6: But yeah, aut there there, it was a very very

699
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 6: open family. I kneel like, there's something great about that

700
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 6: because it's sort of like anything goes you know, you

701
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 6: don't you're and then when you meet people, you're not

702
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 6: like appalled by really many people, like you're sort of

703
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 6: just like well, I was just talking about that the

704
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 6: other day with my friends where they were like having

705
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 6: this very kind of conservative conversation about like kids and sex,

706
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 6: like how do you deal with your kids and wanting

707
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 6: to have sex with your partner?

708
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: And I was like, this is foreign to me. You

709
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: just have sex with your partner, like you I don't

710
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 2: know figure it out, like and if the kids come

711
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: to the door, you just tell him you're snuggling.

712
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

713
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: Or my son said to me one time, He's like,

714
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: what are you doing in there, you guys? And I

715
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: was like, he's rubbing in my feet in the field.

716
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: No, how many children, Lynnette, do you have children?

717
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: I do have twin girls.

718
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 2: Twin girls. And then Jenny, do you how many kids

719
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: do you have?

720
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: I have one? And then Donnie has two boys. So

721
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: I have two step sons.

722
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: And how old are all of How old are they now?

723
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: My girls are twenty eight? Yeah, she when they were young.

724
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: Evan is twenty two, and my other step son's twenty

725
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: two and the other one is thirty.

726
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: Oh my god? How was it being a stepmom?

727
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: By the way, I love it.

728
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 5: You know.

729
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: Elijah, that's Donnie's younger son, moved in with us when

730
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: he was just starting high school. So we got to

731
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: raise my son, Evan and him together.

732
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: That's awesome night.

733
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: So they kind of had like siblings, and I, you know,

734
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: it was nice to have like two boys.

735
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: Were you accepted pretty quickly? I mean, you're fun and

736
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: cool and all that, you know, but kids are weird.

737
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: So they were but you know what Donnie said. Initially

738
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: it was I think it's always a little bumpy star.

739
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: But Donnie said something that changed me. And this is

740
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: good for anyone listening that's like worried about their kids,

741
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: their step kids. He said, Jenny, my therapist, taught me

742
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: the best thing, which does we need to model what

743
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: a loving relationship looks like. So even if my son

744
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: or your son has a problem or we have to

745
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: stick to us being the priority by demonstrating love because

746
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: sometimes people will be like, we shouldn't kiss in front.

747
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, no, they need to see when

748
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: we were loving each other. They need to see what

749
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: that looks like.

750
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: They love it too. They love it. They get all

751
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: giddy about They think that they they fake that they

752
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: hate it, but really they love it.

753
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

754
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: No, I'm afraid that I've I'm afraid that I've like

755
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 3: modeled too aggressively in front of my kids. You have

756
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 3: I'm a groper. I mean, I'm like, if Aaron is

757
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: not wearing.

758
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, you can't, you can't do this.

759
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: If she's kids, if she's not wearing a broth, I'm

760
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: just like sorry, babe, Like you brought it upon yourself.

761
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: That's just the way it goes like it's happening, It's

762
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: gonna happen, you know.

763
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: So sweet. It's so sweet because you know, back in

764
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: the day, our parents didn't well that was something I

765
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: was about. We we again growing up in this like

766
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: almost puritanical household.

767
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen Jenny naked until Playboy,

768
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 4: So you know that that's the reason why we've come

769
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: so far.

770
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: Talking about my dad's penis. You know, before I wouldn't

771
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: even have known that he had one. It was just

772
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: not forsation. So we've come a long way.

773
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: Why was the family like Jenny when you, like you

774
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: did the Playboy and then started to kind of become

775
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: this iconic nineties and like woman, what was the response

776
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: at home? Like, how did they Was it exciting for them?

777
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 2: Did you sometimes have moments?

778
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: Where were you?

779
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: Yeah?

780
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: I was from from certain relatives, I was the devil.

781
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: I received a three page handwritten letter from a priest

782
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: that was a cousin, Jammy my soul to hell. Mary

783
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: Magdalen sent the same letter to my mom.

784
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

785
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: Really and by the way, early then, early Jenny I

786
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: believed it, so I'd be crying in my car just

787
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: moved to LA. It was my little U Hall still

788
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: connected to the cars. I couldn't hook it, and just

789
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: like crying and crying and crying, going like, oh my god,

790
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: my soul's going to burn in help forever and ever

791
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: and ever and ever.

792
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: And then of course I came You're like, but fuck it,

793
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: who cares. I'm going to go to bar One.

794
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: That's right.

795
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 2: For loads of you out there, bar One, Oh my god,

796
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: bar One. There was a spot in LA that was

797
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: the one that was a very hip ninety hell.

798
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: I might as well just go to Roxbury or bar One.

799
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: But it actually helped me going knowing that I'm like, well,

800
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: what do I have to lose now? I might as

801
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: well just be outgoing stuff. And I think when I

802
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: was on Singled Out on the MTV show Back, I

803
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: was so like, I'm not that character in real life,

804
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: but it came out because I was free. I felt

805
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: a freedom I was of school. I got to make

806
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: fun of myself and just kind of goofy and not

807
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: like yes sister Mary, yes, sister Mary. So it kind

808
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: of all came out on that show.

809
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: What did you Want? What did you want?

810
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: Like?

811
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: What was the like desire, like what did you want

812
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: for yourself? Were you passionate? Like what were you passionate about?

813
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: Saying high school? This question for both of you guys,

814
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: like what was nurtured in your house? Was it just

815
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: to like get by and just to make ends meet

816
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: or was were the arts ever nurtured or was there

817
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: any like the things that you loved?

818
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 4: God, Well, I'd say my parents did their best with

819
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: what little income they had, and we did have a piano,

820
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 4: and there were piano lessons, but I don't think they

821
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 4: went on.

822
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: For longer than a year.

823
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 4: But I think my dad thought he had four boys

824
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 4: because we were in every sport, or at least try

825
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 4: to sport every sport. So three of the just went

826
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 4: to college on scholarships for sports.

827
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: This one didn't, but.

828
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: Jo and even both planned for basketball, and I went

829
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 4: for cross country. So my dad, at least I'm sure

830
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: my mom supported it. We've always been very athletic in

831
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 4: our family, so that was definitely.

832
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: That was a lot, And they were the celebrities growing

833
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: up like they were newspapers and very much like being

834
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: interviewed I was making. If you two was around back then,

835
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: I would have had a million of Gribers because I

836
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: was making little movies. I was practicing commercials in the mirror.

837
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: I was putting on talk shows in the basement. I

838
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: was practicing being kind of Oprah and interviewing people. No

839
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: one would ever go to my talk shows in the basement,

840
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 1: but I had my mister microphone, so I was like loving.

841
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do with it. You know,

842
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do I do with it? So that's

843
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: I moved to LA to try to figure it out.

844
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: But did you know, it's like you just wanted to

845
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: move to LA to get into sort of the broad

846
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: idea of entertainment, right.

847
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know. Funny enough, when I look back

848
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: at my Playboy centerfold, they have this thing that you

849
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: fill out and it says, what do you how do

850
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: you want to succeed? I go, I want to succeed

851
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: in TV land, Like I knew, I wanted to either

852
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: act or host. I really loved interviewing. That's why MTV

853
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: was kind of great, because then I snowballed into like,

854
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: you know, MTV Beach House interviewing a bunch of celebrities

855
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: and artists and stuff like that.

856
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: So Eric, it's really Eric from the grind.

857
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: That was such a golden era the MTV. I feel

858
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: like I got in right at the right at the end.

859
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: You know, I was like twenty and it was just

860
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 2: like it was just there was only like two more

861
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: years left really of MTV the way it was tr

862
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: I left.

863
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: It was only six months left of Bjay's period. Really.

864
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: I left, and then six months later I Dallas called

865
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: me and she's like, where were all the fire? I'm like, what,

866
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: I didn't know that it was game over for that

867
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: whole era was really sad.

868
00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: Fun and wild.

869
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: And you know it's a friend of mine who has

870
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: a skate shop now. Is Dom de Luca who did

871
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: Headbanger's Ball. Yeah, I was just with him. I was

872
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: just with him yesterday. He is, he owns Brooklyn Projects. Yeah.

873
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 5: I love.

874
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: When we talk about MTV. People think younger people are like, oh,

875
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: they're talking about their like it sounds like American bands.

876
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: Dance, right, Yeah.

877
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: No, because like my kids they like Rider. The other

878
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: day had this he had a crop top. I stole it.

879
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: But it's like an MTV an old MTV shirt that's

880
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: a crop top, and uh, I feel like they think

881
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: it was cooler than what it's like that. Now, Yeah,

882
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: I think they kind of wish they had something like that.

883
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: I will say, though, I I just recently watched like MTV,

884
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: like Beach House or one of those things where it's

885
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: just everyone's dancing and the cameras are moving in on

886
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: people and it's fucking insane.

887
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: It's like, weird. Boy, is weird?

888
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: So weird? I said it too, like my group my

889
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: friends and like, how fucking weird was this?

890
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: I feel like though, was that was where MTV kind

891
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: of started, like all of those shows, is when it

892
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: started to come be fine? Yeah, it was like the

893
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: end of the the You know, remember when we used

894
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: to just put on MTV and it would just be

895
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 2: like every great music video over and over.

896
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well yo, MTV Raps was incredible, Like that

897
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: was my favorite favorite.

898
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: And wasn't there an alternative show that you tuned into?

899
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: Yeah?

900
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: It was one hundred and twenty minutes.

901
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 3: Really.

902
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: Lynnette's favorite Lenette, did you become? Are you in fashion?

903
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: I feel like all of your clothes like you're an

904
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: asthetics person.

905
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: Oddly enough, I have two career paths that I seem

906
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 4: to do simultaneously. One is interior design. I went to

907
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: school for that, And the other one is I also

908
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 4: went to school for photography, so a lot of like

909
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 4: Jenny's like product photography and things that we do for

910
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 4: her formless beauty.

911
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: Who I just got mine. By the way, I do

912
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: a lot of photos for that.

913
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she was a professor at Notre Dame for photography.

914
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: Like she's the real she does photography and she's actually

915
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: redoing my living room and taking pictures for Foremost Beauty.

916
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: Another shameless plug. If you haven't tried my baker, have

917
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: you opened up the box yet?

918
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: I opened the box. I was wearing the lipstick last night.

919
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: I put on the It's so good. So when did

920
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: you start the formless beauty?

921
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: Okay, So my quick shameless product plug. I formed it

922
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: about three years ago because I'm allergic to everything. I'm

923
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: one of those people that gets like rashes. I'm allergic

924
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: to stuff. And then when I started looking into ingredients,

925
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: I was like, no shit, the amount of toxins, Like

926
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Most mascara has forever chemicals in it

927
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: and has illumina powder and for meldehyde. So I'm like,

928
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a real clean beauty brand, like

929
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: for real, real real, real, because they can say it's

930
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: not real, and so we just keep increasing products. Just

931
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: came out with a cream blush and I'm just so

932
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: proud of it.

933
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: I saw and they're gorgeous colors and the texture of

934
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: the lip glasses are amazing. I had I had mine on.

935
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: I'll show it to Oliver. You can try it, but

936
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: I will say the brushes are amazing.

937
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: I know people call me and go, these brushes, you're

938
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: not charging enough, but I'm like everyone, that's because everyone

939
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: deserves good brushes.

940
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: They're so how much is a good brush?

941
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: Like normally they're like forty bucks a brush, and so

942
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: right now, like if you buy them as a master

943
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: brush set, you're getting them for like twelve dollars a brush.

944
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: And how much How long does a brush.

945
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: Last depends on This depends on the quality of the brush.

946
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: If you buy one from Amazon, it's gonna last maybe

947
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: through one washing. Ours can go through hundreds and hundred.

948
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to have you shamelessly plug. I'm going to

949
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: get them right now.

950
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 3: Hold on. Oh you're so sweet, double micing. Oh God,

951
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: you have an idea for a beauty brand, right.

952
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have much money to start it.

953
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: So to start. What I'm saying, how do you start it? Like,

954
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: I am an entertainer, I'm an actor, I produce, I've

955
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 3: got it da da da da. But I am an

956
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: entrepreneur in my spirit. And I know this because at

957
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: a young age, I was always hustling money and it

958
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: was all illegal. I was selling fake ideas, I was

959
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: selling weed. I was doing driving you know, my friend's

960
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: mother's car at fifteen, shuttling people to golf courses for money.

961
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: I mean I was always in the money mode. I

962
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: still am, and I have all of these great ideas.

963
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: Seemingly some I see pop up now and again when

964
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, that was my fucking idea, totally, we I

965
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: can't start. It's like, Okay, how do I start it?

966
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, uh, I don't know. Fuck, it just takes

967
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: so much time and money.

968
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: Does you have to be super passionate about it?

969
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

970
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: It starts. It starts with an LLC. You have to

971
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: just that's what starts with the name. And then I

972
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: always had money to start with three lip glosses. That's all.

973
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's se if people care about clean beauty

974
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: and like the look classes are made with alo chemicial shade,

975
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: butter we don't use for meldehyde. There she's putting on

976
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: a manifest right now.

977
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: So you started with like three skews.

978
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: Skews and said, let me see if people care as

979
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: much about it, you know, because I don't. I don't

980
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: want chemicals because we eat licloths and we absorb it.

981
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: So then and so did you just direct the consumer?

982
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: It's still we're not.

983
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: In stores and I'm online and we've grown pretty quickly,

984
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: but I'm so slow to roll out new product because

985
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: not only do we test and we're made in America

986
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: because I watched the chemist, but then I also take

987
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: it and I third party test it, so like I'm

988
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: double tripling down on my makeup, going like this is

989
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: for people that care about sensitivities, allergies or just health

990
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 1: in general, but wanted to perform great.

991
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: I love it.

992
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 2: It's also nice that, you know, sometimes it's nice to be.

993
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 7: Able to like if you're just start small and be

994
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 7: purposeful about it rather than just doing something to grow

995
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 7: to sell, which is I think what everybody tries to concept.

996
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: I love that.

997
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: I mean, here's your mascara.

998
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: Mescara is dope and I had no idea that a

999
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: lot of them have. I haven't tried that endercrent disruptors

1000
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: forever chemicals. They can never get out of your system,

1001
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: and there's no fragrance in it because fragrance is actually

1002
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: a toxin, a hormone disruptor. Yep, you you can hide.

1003
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: You can hide. Companies hide their toxins inside the word fragrance.

1004
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: So when you turn it around, you see fragrance. What's

1005
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: hidden inside that term?

1006
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: Is it?

1007
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: Like, because it's considered an ip, they can put all

1008
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: the bad ship inside there and get away with it.

1009
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: So we don't have any fragrance in ours. Feel that brush?

1010
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: Feel it? But wait, look at this blender. I'm telling you,

1011
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with these brushes. So what are you looking

1012
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: forward to now? Like, what what are you working on now?

1013
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: You're obviously still taking pictures? Jenny. What's a mask singer

1014
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: mass singer?

1015
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: And I'm loving I was supposed to be on mask singer?

1016
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: I was, but I was doing a I was doing

1017
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: a Fox show as an actor and it was in

1018
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: the covid Ish world and they couldn't clear me to

1019
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: like go from Albuquerque to la or something.

1020
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: Oh no, well, hopefully you'll come on in the future,

1021
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: because I don't think this show is going anywhere, but hopefully.

1022
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, anywhere I was, I was I was going to do.

1023
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: I was like, I'll do that. I mean it sounds

1024
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: like so much.

1025
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: So much fun. Every single that comes through, they're saying

1026
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: they have the best time of their lives. Like it's yeah.

1027
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: So I get so many people all the time on

1028
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: my Instagram being like, You've got to go on the

1029
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: mess singer, like I think she's the thing. I'm like,

1030
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: I've so.

1031
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: Funny and not to slide into you, but I got

1032
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: to tell you, I have been such a fan since

1033
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: you came out singing. I bad our publicists that we

1034
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: share I said, I'm I'm a huge fucking fan of

1035
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: her music. Like your voice, the style, the songs, They're great.

1036
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: It's amazing.

1037
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: Thanks. I love it so much. I'm so happy right

1038
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: now that I'm just doing it.

1039
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 3: You know.

1040
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm just so happy I decided to do it,

1041
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: and you like filled the big void for me.

1042
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: I basically lip sync happy Birthday. So I'm really really happy.

1043
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 1: But I know, just to let you know, in the future,

1044
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: like we actually started a podcast together four years ago.

1045
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: We have like sixteen episodes shot and we still have

1046
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: not done anything with it. It's just sitting there for

1047
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: a future. Someday we'll do it. But because fun, see,

1048
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: we just got so busy that.

1049
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so weird you said you you said

1050
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: that because your banter is so like on point, and

1051
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,479
Speaker 3: I was like, these girls need to do something that's nuts,

1052
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: and I was thinking they should do a fucking I

1053
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: think one.

1054
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: Problem is we sound so alike. No one's going to

1055
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: be able to tell who's speaking. We do, Yeah, we see.

1056
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 3: Yeah you do, but who can.

1057
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: They'll figure it out. They figure it out.

1058
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have a little more formality to her too.

1059
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: It's a little bit more proper.

1060
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm a little more I'm more newscast red.

1061
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, like.

1062
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 3: Newscaster. You can do a weather segment in your podcast.

1063
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1064
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: So all right, as we wrap up, what do you

1065
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 2: think the biggest lesson you've learned from each other has been?

1066
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: Like and throughout your like the thing you take with

1067
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: you the most, Like, what's the biggest lesson you've learned

1068
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: from your forgiveness?

1069
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: Well, that's a good one. I was going to say,

1070
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: people can change, Yeah, forgiveness because all those grievances, I

1071
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: could have still easily held onto them and held resentment

1072
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: towards her. And because people, you know, your childhood really

1073
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: shapes who you are and how you feel about certain things,

1074
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: and grow not grow. And I feel like my love

1075
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: for her surpassed any anger. So she taught me.

1076
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: When you say people can change, who do you think

1077
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: has changed the most? Well?

1078
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 4: I think we both changed enough to be able to

1079
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 4: move past our grievances and forgive each other. And I

1080
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 4: also think in this day and age, like a lot

1081
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 4: of the roles and have reversed because I got a

1082
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 4: lot more clothes to steal from her now.

1083
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: So I think we've just matured.

1084
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 4: And I think it's like there's forgiving on both sides,

1085
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 4: and there's growth and there's understanding, and I think we

1086
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: have a better language to communicate. And I think that

1087
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 4: that's the reason where we're at right now, is that

1088
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 4: we can be friends because we understand each other so

1089
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: much more as adults than we did.

1090
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: When we were younger. Yeah. Yeah, puberty didn't help either, No.

1091
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: No, yeah, yeah.

1092
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: Jenny, do you think you're as outspoken as you've always

1093
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: been now or do you feel like you censor yourself

1094
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: more sometimes Now.

1095
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: In today's I would say, now I do censor myself more,

1096
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: only because I've been beat up so much that I

1097
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: notice myself censoring myself a bit more, which sucks, because

1098
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: I liked when I was younger and freer and not

1099
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: really cared. I still tap into that. Don't get me wrong,

1100
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: I still get myself in trouble all the time, but

1101
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like I still censor myself. And it's

1102
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: not because of age. I think it's because of the climate. Yeah.

1103
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because you were always so you're always

1104
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: so outspoken. You still are, but but it's it's an

1105
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 2: interesting time.

1106
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, please, Okay, So what the PC police is just

1107
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: not that I would never not politically correct. I've always

1108
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: been that. But it's still the mobs are just waiting,

1109
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: and you know.

1110
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 3: I feel like the pendulum is swinging back a little bit,

1111
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I think people are a

1112
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 3: little bit kind of a bit fed up with it. Yeah,

1113
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 3: you know, just it's just gone so far. But for good. Look,

1114
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: when when the pendulum does swing that bar, there's a

1115
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 3: reason for there's a reason for it, and there's a

1116
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 3: lot of good that comes out, you know what I mean.

1117
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: And and so that's good. But then now we've got

1118
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 3: a fucking reality.

1119
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: You got to come back to the center.

1120
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, come back to center. Let's not be Let's not

1121
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: be a fucking crazy piece, you know.

1122
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: Okay. Our final question that we always end.

1123
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: With, it's a two part question that you will each answer.

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00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: So number one, if you could alleviate something from your sister,

1125
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 3: something that would make their life better, what would that be?

1126
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: And then if you could emulate something you could sort

1127
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: of take from them that would make your life a

1128
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: little bit better than what would what would those things?

1129
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm so bad? Was part one and part two questions?

1130
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 4: So the first part one, yes something, Uh yeah, that's.

1131
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: The one thing.

1132
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 8: I think you would have a pretty charmed life right now.

1133
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 8: I don't know what I would alleviate. You're maybe like,

1134
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 8: I wish you had better gut health. Yet No, really,

1135
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 8: that's a good.

1136
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: One, great one son.

1137
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 4: He takes care of herself, but there's only so much

1138
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 4: you could do with your insides, and she has a

1139
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: lot of allergies and gut health issues.

1140
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: And I suppose if that was off your I can

1141
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: eat almost anything, and I silly act disease and autommune

1142
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: shit and it's help.

1143
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 3: Oh oh really, yeah, my wife's getting checked for all

1144
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 3: that shit.

1145
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 4: Yeah that's what, Yeah, exactly, That's what Jenny did and

1146
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 4: found out that's we're all her problems coming.

1147
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: That's why she needs formless beauty all the well.

1148
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 4: The other one is, oh, if I had to light something,

1149
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 4: I always said, I think Jenny can attest to this.

1150
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 4: I've never found myself to be jealous of where Jenny's

1151
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 4: what she's achieved, and it's mainly because I've never had

1152
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 4: the grit or the guts. It's not in my makeup

1153
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 4: to really stick my neck out that much to risk,

1154
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 4: and I wish.

1155
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: I had it in me.

1156
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 4: But I watched her put herself in places that I

1157
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 4: knew were going to be really risky. And that is,

1158
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 4: you know, with our upbringing and how our family felt

1159
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,479
Speaker 4: about certain things that she was doing. I always wanted

1160
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 4: to make sure I was on the right side of everything,

1161
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 4: with my family liking me and also approving of things

1162
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 4: that I did. And Jenny was like, as we talked

1163
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 4: about earlier, kind of like f that, and she went

1164
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 4: out and did.

1165
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: Her thing and achieved great success. Because I always say.

1166
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 4: To people, how many playmates can you really remember that

1167
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 4: have had the longevity of a career like my sister,

1168
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 4: you know. So for that, I think I've always said

1169
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 4: it's the one thing that I'm not only proud of,

1170
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 4: but I wish I had it in me. I think

1171
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 4: as I'm getting older, I'm starting to get a little

1172
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 4: bit more of that. But she really just kind of

1173
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 4: puts herself out there all the time, and for that,

1174
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: I I admire her.

1175
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah that's nice.

1176
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: She just needs a few drinks and she does get

1177
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: there right. For me, I would say I would love

1178
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: to alleviate. I would love to take away the stress

1179
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: she has. She carries a lot of stress with work.

1180
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: She's working seven days a week, like it's insane. I'm like,

1181
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: I wish I can say, like, let me carry some

1182
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: of that load for you, let me do something, because

1183
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: but she puts it all upon herself, so I don't

1184
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: know how to help except make her dinner sometimes. Yeah,

1185
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: that's true. And then what was the other one, oh

1186
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 1: emulate I would say her ability to care so much

1187
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: in terms of wanted to go to that person's house

1188
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: if they're sick and help them out, going to funerals,

1189
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: She's the one that will always go to funerals. I

1190
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: little have social anxiety, Like She'll be like, I'm gonna

1191
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: go and spend some time with aunts, and so I'm like, really, like,

1192
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: I I can't. I can't. Like she she's really good

1193
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: at like keeping the outer family together, are still involved,

1194
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like that to me seems like walking on

1195
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: a plank. I cannot do that, like checks by going

1196
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: to funerals, and I'm like, I can't do it. So

1197
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: I wish I had her guts in the social world,

1198
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: in our family social circle, you know what.

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00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 4: It also has to do a lot with our two

1200
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 4: other sisters out of state. So I feel like I

1201
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 4: kind of represent when I show up.

1202
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like the girls you know, so right,

1203
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: But she still does it. I couldn't do it, So

1204
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: I wish I had that.

1205
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 3: Well, you are the oldest, it's your.

1206
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: Job, right exactly.

1207
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: This has been so much fun.

1208
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: So fun.

1209
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: You guys are great.

1210
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: You guys are delight. I'm a big fan of both

1211
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: of years, of course, and just think the world of

1212
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: you guys.

1213
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 3: I love you guys.

1214
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: Is great. Yeah, have the best rest of your day

1215
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: and we'll see you at some point later.

1216
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: Guys, bye bye. So great, so great.

1217
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: They were so much fun.

1218
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: They are fun there.

1219
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so fun, so fun.

1220
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 3: I love how they She's a mate. Lynette is hysteric,

1221
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: I know, like she she feels like a character, like

1222
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 3: she almost is a Christian Wind character, Like she feels

1223
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 3: like that that was. And Jenny's so great.

1224
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: She reminds me of Aaron the way she was so much.

1225
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: She really interesting.

1226
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 3: Gets that all the time. I used to get it all.

1227
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: I was looking at her and I like her profile.

1228
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, it looks she looks like.

1229
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 3: You're white thing and they both have got issues. They

1230
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: were great.

1231
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: Okay, well I love.

1232
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 3: You, we love you.

1233
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: Out there to you