WEBVTT - All in the Family with Mireille Enos... (S2 E15 "Shortcomings") 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:04.880 Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:06.520 you a Charlotte? 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:08.039 Hello? 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.520 Hello, We're back with are you a Charlotte? We have 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:13.520 a fantastic guest today. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:14.920 My name is me Ray. 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:16.200 You knows. I think you. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.239 Will recognize her. The fact that she was actually on 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:19.720 Sex and the. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:21.759 City is crazy million years ago. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:23.320 Yeah, it's so special. 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:26.360 And amazing, and you know, it's fun for me because 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.440 when they told me that you because they went they 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:31.440 looked at all the list of the names of everyone 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.519 who was in the show and they were like me, 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.920 Ray Knows. I was like, I guess, I mean for me, 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.120 I wasn't in that scene, right, No, yeah. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.040 Valerie Harper, justin Thurrau. I mean, it was such an 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.600 incredible scene to be a part of. And this was 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.160 actually a big moment in my life. So I had 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.800 recently moved to New York. I was like waiting tables 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.000 and being an art model and hustling, and I had 0:00:56.080 --> 0:01:00.200 recently there was an agent named Jim Flynn who I 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.280 hadn't even met. Jim, I had met his assistant who 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.640 had come to see a showcase and had he had 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.319 recently been given permission to sign for like actors for 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.440 commercials or like three and rounder lines whatever. And so 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.360 the first audition he sent me out on was this 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.120 no Yes sax in the City, one line Wow, And 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.120 I booked it and it was my first paying job 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.160 in New York City. But I had to pay my 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.960 SAG dues before I could walk on set. I had 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.280 three dollars in my bank account, so I was asking 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.880 my parents to wire me the money and all this stuff. 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.640 And so all day long, this little newbie agent was 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.920 like on the phone, and Jim finally was like, what 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.600 the heck is going on? Who is this person? So 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.200 this one line was my first paying job in New York, 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.279 got me my SAG card, and then ultimately Jim Flynn 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.000 signed me and he was my agent for all the 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:54.000 years I was in New York. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.120 Oh that's so nice. That's a nice story. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.320 Can I say that everything about it? Of course, you 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.200 know what was going on in your life, that's so interesting. 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.040 But when you look at yourself in that scene, you 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.200 only have one line, but you're amazing. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.160 Oh you're sweet, thank you, And here you are with 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.000 all these people, like it's wonderful. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:15.280 Yeah, incredible people. And how was like even with all 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.079 this background going on. How was the experience it was? 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:19.320 It was I. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.920 Remembered it being a very happy day that everyone was 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.600 kind and they were all just like you know, actors 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.200 right in there and telling a story and having some fun, 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.040 right and of course you know, I mean second, the 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.120 city is so iconic and the storytelling is so wonderful. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.400 And this episode, I mean, I've seen so many episodes 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.560 from all the seasons, but this episode I just rewatched. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.120 It really stands up. It was a really awesome episode. 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:46.880 It's super interesting, it really is. Yeah, I didn't even 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.000 really remember it. Yeah, like I remember the Valerie Harper 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:51.840 was on the show. We were so excited because all 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.760 of us grew up of course with Mary Tyler Moore 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:58.079 and Rhoda for all of you youngsters, and fantastic kind 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:01.040 of one of the I mean not original. I guess 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.360 Lucille Ball would be the first female Jordans and she 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:08.400 was really and pivotal in terms of young women and 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:09.840 she was a career woman. 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.600 Mary Tyler Moore and Rhode was her best friend. 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.320 So it was in some ways kind of almost a 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.560 blueprint for sex and the city in a certain way 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.040 at a different time. Right, So it meant so much 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.000 to us to get Valerie Harper. I remember being so 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.840 excited about that and kind of like starstruck and didn't 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.120 know what to say. Sir Jesco was so excited, which 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:29.520 I feel like you can see in those. 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.919 Totally their scenes together are so wonderful. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.480 They're really good. They're really good. And then we have 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.840 justin Throw for the second time, which is kind of 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.720 hysterical because this is the second season and I had vaguely, 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.200 vaguely remembered that, but I'm not working with him, right, 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:43.960 but I know him. 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:44.480 He's such a. 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:50.000 Lovely guy, and I had completely forgotten about their rather 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.960 embarrassing storyline. Yes, I just remembered that he was on 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.640 the show, right, and the Valerie Harper's on the show, 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.000 And then when I actually watched what they're talking about, hilarious. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:03.080 It's hilarious but also like so real. Yes, I mean 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.560 played for laughs, but yet still so real. All right, 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.280 So let's get back to a little bit of details. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:13.840 So this episode is called Shortcomings, which is you know, yeah, perfect, 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.160 oh god, And it was directed by Daniel Algrandt, who's 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.000 a really interesting director and I honestly can't remember if 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:21.839 he came back or not. He had done a movie 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.400 in indie I think it's called is it called Naked 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:25.839 in New York. I should have asked you guys this 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.520 before we started get the producers to look it up. 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.000 He had, You know, there was a time when we 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.960 would get like indie film directors, especially first season, and 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.040 he was kind of a second season version of that. 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:36.360 Yeh. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.880 Then also, we're at this point getting a lot of 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.560 sopranos directors in the loop, so I kind of got 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:42.840 this interesting mix going on. 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.080 Yes, Naked in New York. 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.160 That was his indie film in the nineties, So I 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.359 feel like, you know, people like have a kind of 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.400 an indie hit back in the day when you could 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:52.960 have an indie hit, and then they're kind of like 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:53.800 the hot ticket. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.640 This was Daniel Algrand and he was very sweet. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.800 And this is written by Terry Minsky, which is also 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.840 interesting because Terry Minsky wrote in the first season, yet 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:04.800 was not on the set with us. And I think 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:06.280 by the time you came and I don't know if 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.359 you would remember this, we had Cindy Schupack and Jenny 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.000 Bicks were our supervising producer slash writers, right, so they 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.120 were around a lot, right, I mean, I probably saw 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.680 it's such a blur. Of course, of course, so this 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.880 is my Mewray story. So I did not remember that. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:22.919 You were on our show. 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.840 So when my producer said, I was like, well, but 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.359 definitely call her. What on earth did she play? Because 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.360 I don't remember. But you know, when you're not there 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.240 with other people, you don't always know what's going on 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:34.800 the storyline. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.840 That's plus, you met a lot of people over the 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.200 course of all those and. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.839 We didn't sleep. But the reason that it was interesting 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.200 to me is that when your show The Killing came on, 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:48.320 I remember watching the opening sequence. You're running in that 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.520 fisherman sweater. I believe you're in Vancouver, on the edge 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.200 of Stanley Park. That's a place we all know, all 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.080 actors know. And I was like, I love her, and 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:00.760 she seems so familiar, that was my thought. And I 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.560 watched that you were so yeah, but you're very unique, 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.880 you know, and so specific. And when I see you 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.239 in that scene because of course I'm waiting with baited 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.359 Bread the whole episode where she wears and then finally 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:17.000 you show up, and you're just so interesting and so present. 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.279 And to think that that was your first job, my 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.720 first job in New artible incredible, your first job in 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.200 New York City. I love that so much. And that's 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.680 the joy of being on a show for a while. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:28.960 That's right. 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.559 It's getting to see the talent that they were able 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.160 to find and pull. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.440 Well, especially a show cast in New York, which just 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.920 feels like such a tight community of actors, and you 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.279 see people that are on stage and then they're shooting 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.400 an episode of a show and you see the same 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:46.400 thing in Only Murders in the building. You have all 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.640 of these wonderful New York actors that get pulled to 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.600 do Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it feels really. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.480 It's so great, so great. So now I'm going to 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.919 talk about our other connection. Okay, So, sir, Jessica is 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.599 married to Matthew Brodrics. Matthew Broderick was in a movie 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:05.600 with your husband way back when we were young. 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:07.280 Yeah, I mean I was a kid. 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:11.440 Yeah, I was of the age to be completely obsessed 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.400 with Ferriz Fueller Farrispuelller's Day Off. I hope all of 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.640 you have seen this, but if you haven't, you must 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.119 immediately go watch. It is a classic. And the joy 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.040 is that they're currently in Vancouver working. 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:26.520 Yes, forty years later Alan Rock Matthew Broderick, who originally 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.000 met doing a Broadway play LuxI Blues. 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.320 No, I've forgotten that part. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:37.080 Yes, they saw, Yes, it was so incredible. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.960 So they were already friends, yes, And so then Matthew 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.640 got Ferrispueler and then Allan was called in and of 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.960 course they got cast together. And so they were already 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.880 friends when they shot that film. And I feel like 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:56.600 you can really feel that in the chemistry and the 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:59.360 the you know, the scene where Alan is on the 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.440 phone and he's pretending to be so that was a joke. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.440 The voice that he does, that was a joke to 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.800 crack Matthew up because he was doing an imitation of 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.360 Gene Sacks, who had directed BLUCKSI Blas. That's a little insider. 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.440 That's amazing. Oh, that's amazing. 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:17.600 And so they've stayed pals all these years. Forty years wow, 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.720 And right now they're shooting a movie called The Best 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.640 Is Yet to Come and it's about lifelong male friendship. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:32.360 And it's just like Alan is having the time of the. 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:32.480 Yea the last time Matthew was in Vancouver. And this 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.560 is why Sarah Jessica told me about it. He and 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.600 I were filming a Christmas movie together in like one 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.599 hundred degree we know, August, and he was in a 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.920 hole tizzy about where to stay. You know, it's always 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.719 an issue right when you go on location. Where to stay? 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.840 Where to stay? Where to stay? And Sir Jessica was like, 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.559 where did you say? Where did he stay last time? 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.240 Remind me? And so week we had to talk it 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:52.520 through it. It really made me. 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:57.000 Laugh that number one, I love the interconnectedness of all 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.040 of us over time, and number. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.959 Two, the HBO of it all is hysterical. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.160 I mean, like to watch Ellen, I mean throughout his career, Spencity, 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.800 so many amazing things, but the succession. 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:14.040 Succession, I mean yeah, I know, special experience, Yeah, I 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:18.200 mean yeah. And he plays such a hard character. But 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.720 you loved him, yes, you love him. And he's also 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.280 kind of a sociopath. He's a dumb dumb and also 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:27.400 like heartbreaking all the things. That's very hard. It's very hard, 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:28.600 very very hard. 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:29.960 He's amazing, he is. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:30.640 Thank you. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.360 I love to have you on and I love all 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:33.120 the connections. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.200 It's always a joy to uh, you know, like the 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:40.079 Kevin Bacon six degrees of it's very it's very everyone's 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.079 very connected, and that is I think one of the 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:43.520 joys of our of our job. 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.080 Well, when you're in a career for like a long time, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.160 that that just happens. You know, people's paths cross and 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.640 you work with each other's spouses and yeah, it's. 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.240 It's a joy. It's a joy. All right. Let's break 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.720 down this episode a little bit, because sometimes it's just 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:03.320 fun to chat. Yeah, I rewatch, but it was very 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.480 entertaining for me also to rewatch because sometimes I have 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.959 a lot, a lot of memories more behind the scenes, 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.000 you know, what was going on that day, and then 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.440 sometimes I really remember the plot and sometimes I don't. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.719 Yeah, well that was early too two. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.000 It's true, and. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.199 In my mind I thought that we had just to 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.880 throw in season one, which is he also plays a writer, 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:25.040 which is so weird. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:27.040 What was going on with us? 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:30.640 Yeah, she got cast again, Yes, as a writer. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.719 Though we shaved his hair. That was like, oh, just. 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:35.920 Put some glasses on him. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:37.800 Now he's a different persons exactly. 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.240 He's a different person, but he's adorable as both. 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:42.120 He plays a. 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:46.840 Slightly unlikable writer in each which is also interesting, you know, 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.520 it is interesting. Like the first one, he's like super 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:53.840 slick and he's just gotten like invited to parties and stuff. 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.800 And she also gives the writer advice as someone who's 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.480 a writer. Carry is obviously a writer, writer in the 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.280 you know, thick of it in terms of Manhattan night life. 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.120 And then this one she's giving him advice. He says, 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.480 I'm going to be in GQ. It's almost like the 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.360 same part but different. It's interesting and it's the kind 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.400 of thing and I, you know, certainly don't want to 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.679 dwell on this, but we just did, you know, and 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.600 just like that, and people got very obsessed with every 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:20.680 little detail, very upset about every little detail. I'm like, 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.120 back in the day, all kinds of stuff went on, 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:23.800 that's right. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.600 You know, no one said anything. I don't know if 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:28.920 anyone noticed. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.720 Probably not. I think I think we're in a new 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.440 moment of people wanting to like be in on every 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.720 single detail and wanting to have an opinion and. 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:41.600 Yes and say their opinion and yeah, and they have 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:42.679 a way to say it. 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.160 Yes we did for yeah, there wasn't. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.400 I think this would have been the year two thousand. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.400 Do you think that's right? I think that's right, right, 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.520 Which is I mean it seems like another lifetime ago. 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:53.800 Things were so different. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.080 Yeah, yeah, I mean I was in my twenties. 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:01.480 Oh my god, yeah, adorable, Like you're in your team, 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:01.880 I do. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.920 I have such a babyface. Actually in your hair. I 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.800 had forgotten what I looked like in it, and rewatched. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.880 I was like, oh my god, I look seventeen. 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.400 You really do. But beautiful, so beautiful, and you seem 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.720 sophisticated because you're sitting there with those people who are 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.920 all like very New York and yeah, you know type thing. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:19.560 I love it. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.760 Anyway, back to the show. Back to the show. So 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.400 this is a to me kind of a departure of 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:28.080 a show. Yeah, Like there are certain things about it, like, 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.079 for instance, the coffee shop. For some reason, we're all 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:32.520 plastered next to each other. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.160 Did you notice this? Yes, our shoulders are literally. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.360 Like going on, I don't know. And then there's like 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.480 a walk and talk where we're also like they're they're 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.480 like like, anyway, that was interesting. I mean we're kind 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.679 of finding our way in certain certain ways. And I 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.640 think also in different directors would come, we were more 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.800 affected by them and later on, yeah, you know, later 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.439 on we just be like, no, this is this is. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.079 What we're doing. You had found your your own rhythm. 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.000 And you're kind of confident, yes, within that. But it's 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.480 also I found it especially in the coffee shop scene 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.400 because now we do have our coffee shop set. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:08.240 In the beginning, we didn't. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.360 We're like out about in different places, right, so it's 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.160 funny in the coffee shop, but we're like peppy, you 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:19.040 know what I'm saying. That like really like energized repartee 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.120 is in full force, which I really enjoyed. Yeah, it 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.880 was nice to see we seem happy, which I'm sure 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.400 we were exhausted, but you know it has a lot 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:28.240 of energy. 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:31.080 Right, and it seems like you guys really enjoy each other. 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:35.000 And yeah, yeah, I know Sara Jessica seems super bubbly. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.319 And also I think it's very hot when I look 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.200 at that what I remember, you know, there's like the 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.800 very hot summers and then they not so hot summers, 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.360 like medium. Her hair is like its natural self, you know, 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.120 and she's just radiant, and I feel like we were 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:48.800 all hot. 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:50.920 But it was great, you know, it was a fun, 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.200 fun hot I love that moment she bangs on the 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:54.360 glass since I know. 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.160 It's a classic. It's a classic. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.400 See that also snuck up on me because I think 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.240 the way social media is now, you see these little 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.120 snippets and you're like, yes, of course I remember that 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:08.160 that was at the height. No, it's and I think 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.800 that the theme of this episode, which is family is 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:16.920 difficult and family is also your chosen who, which I 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.760 love so much, And I had no idea that we 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.680 had that theme really explicitly in there so early. 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.360 Yeah, like, that's kind of amazing. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.480 Well, and each of your individual storylines are I mean, 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.480 you have your brother obviously, who is your real family, 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:35.160 which is so strange. But there's also like the other 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.520 women are like in these little transitional mind it's not 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.440 people that are going to stay, which just like shines 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.600 light on how special the four of you are. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.000 That's true, absolutely absolutely. Because my brother we never see 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:55.600 or hear from him again, including my two weddings. I'm 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:56.360 really sorry. 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:57.840 I'm really sorry. 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.880 He works a lot. He was on Ozark. He played 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:01.160 it an evil, evil lawyer. 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.440 It's like, oh, there's my brother, my. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.120 Brother exactly. I mean, now that i'm rewatching, I'm trying 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:13.480 to glom on any little details and to have my 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.840 brother there in his like preppy shorts. 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.320 It's very interesting. We did have an episode. 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.400 Before where I talk about how in my waspy family 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:23.840 we don't talk about feelings. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.800 We play tennis, which is kind of funny because. 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.120 We've had a tennis storyline for Charlotte, like literally for 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:43.520 thirty years, you know. So the brother comes, we'll just 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.120 do this really quick because the brother's so weird, Like 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.800 we never see any of Charlotte's other relatives, no parents, nothing, right, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.720 it's bizarre, bizarre. So the brother comes. He is getting 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:58.320 divorced from his wife, and I tell you guys that 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.840 he's coming to visit because he's getting to divorce. Yes, 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.320 And everyone makes fun of me. I tell you guys, 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.480 like you're in the scene, you're one of us now. 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.240 And everyone makes fun of Wesley and Leslie, which is 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.320 also like so preppy and funny, right, and very fine 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.200 to make fun of. But of course Charlotte really is 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.200 tired of getting made fun of at this point, jurning me, 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:17.840 and so I make all kinds of faces at them, 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:21.600 which is also funny. And then so and weirdly, I 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.680 guess not weirdly, you know, Charlotte's very pro marriage as 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:25.080 we know. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.920 As we know, and yeah, she really is committed to 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.240 them getting back together, right, So, and she. 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.160 Keeps kind of slightly irritatingly asking him like did you 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:34.840 talk to Leslie? Did you talk to Leslie? 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:35.280 How's Lesly? 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.760 And he's like no, And then I do kind of 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:39.760 love in the end, and this is what I do. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:44.080 I just synoped down when he says, you know, I 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.000 believe he says I hadn't got late or whatever, which 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:47.520 is a bit weird of a way to talk about 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.760 your wife, but whatever in two years. And then Charlotte 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.920 looks kind of horrified, yes, which is interesting, and then 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.680 I'm like, oh, okay, I understand. So he so basically 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.240 what happens is that Samantha sleeps with my brother, which 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.480 clearly Charlotte knows it's going to happen, which is why 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.879 I don't invite Samantha. But then Carrie brings some. 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.399 Merings her and you're horrified that she's there, and. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:12.280 Like awkward, like awkward and interesting. And also sometimes when 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.639 I watch it, I can tell, you know, there's occasionally 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.120 scenes with the three of them without me. I can 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.480 tell that I'm like a newer friend, and there is 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.439 a scene when we flash back to the eighties and 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.960 all of them are together, and I'm because they hadn't 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.240 met me yet. But we never explained that either. It's interesting, 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.439 but I can feel that when I watch this episode 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.800 because I pull carry over and I'm like, a, yeah, She's. 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.960 Like that's Samantha our friends, right, yeah. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.040 Which is that's really funny and interesting. 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.000 But I did and then I mean my producers when 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:42.919 they watched it, they were like, oh, you shouted her 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.720 really harshly. The thing that I thought was so interesting 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.080 about it, I mean, for Charlotte, it is harsh to 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.159 say that, you know, she should be on like, you know, 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.840 a guide book of New York because her you know, 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.000 station is always open, so to speak that it is 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.080 of course a harsh thing for Charlotte to say. Yeah. 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.400 The thing that I find interesting is the way Samantha 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.119 talks about sex and herself. I mean not in a 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:09.560 derogatory way, but just in a very free way. It's 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:13.000 interesting that then she would take offense to me, yes, 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.280 saying that, But then I guess that also is kind 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:16.320 of true, like sometimes if. 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.360 You say something about yourself, yes, you can talk about 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.199 yourself in ways that you don't want other people to 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.200 talk about you. And what seemed to be true in 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.480 that scene is that where Samantha is very comfortable talking 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.359