1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: Hello? 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Hello, We're back with are you a Charlotte? We have 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: a fantastic guest today. 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: My name is me Ray. 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: You knows. I think you. 8 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: Will recognize her. The fact that she was actually on 9 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Sex and the. 10 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: City is crazy million years ago. 11 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so special. 12 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: And amazing, and you know, it's fun for me because 13 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: when they told me that you because they went they 14 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: looked at all the list of the names of everyone 15 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: who was in the show and they were like me, 16 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: Ray Knows. I was like, I guess, I mean for me, 17 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't in that scene, right, No, yeah. 18 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: Valerie Harper, justin Thurrau. I mean, it was such an 19 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: incredible scene to be a part of. And this was 20 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 3: actually a big moment in my life. So I had 21 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: recently moved to New York. I was like waiting tables 22 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: and being an art model and hustling, and I had 23 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: recently there was an agent named Jim Flynn who I 24 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: hadn't even met. Jim, I had met his assistant who 25 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: had come to see a showcase and had he had 26 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: recently been given permission to sign for like actors for 27 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: commercials or like three and rounder lines whatever. And so 28 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: the first audition he sent me out on was this 29 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: no Yes sax in the City, one line Wow, And 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: I booked it and it was my first paying job 31 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: in New York City. But I had to pay my 32 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: SAG dues before I could walk on set. I had 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: three dollars in my bank account, so I was asking 34 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: my parents to wire me the money and all this stuff. 35 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: And so all day long, this little newbie agent was 36 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: like on the phone, and Jim finally was like, what 37 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: the heck is going on? Who is this person? So 38 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: this one line was my first paying job in New York, 39 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,279 Speaker 3: got me my SAG card, and then ultimately Jim Flynn 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: signed me and he was my agent for all the 41 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: years I was in New York. 42 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: Oh that's so nice. That's a nice story. 43 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Can I say that everything about it? Of course, you 44 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: know what was going on in your life, that's so interesting. 45 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: But when you look at yourself in that scene, you 46 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: only have one line, but you're amazing. 47 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: Oh you're sweet, thank you, And here you are with 48 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: all these people, like it's wonderful. 49 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible people. And how was like even with all 50 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: this background going on. How was the experience it was? 51 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: It was I. 52 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: Remembered it being a very happy day that everyone was 53 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: kind and they were all just like you know, actors 54 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: right in there and telling a story and having some fun, 55 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: right and of course you know, I mean second, the 56 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: city is so iconic and the storytelling is so wonderful. 57 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: And this episode, I mean, I've seen so many episodes 58 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: from all the seasons, but this episode I just rewatched. 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: It really stands up. It was a really awesome episode. 60 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: It's super interesting, it really is. Yeah, I didn't even 61 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: really remember it. Yeah, like I remember the Valerie Harper 62 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: was on the show. We were so excited because all 63 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: of us grew up of course with Mary Tyler Moore 64 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: and Rhoda for all of you youngsters, and fantastic kind 65 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: of one of the I mean not original. I guess 66 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: Lucille Ball would be the first female Jordans and she 67 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: was really and pivotal in terms of young women and 68 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: she was a career woman. 69 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: Mary Tyler Moore and Rhode was her best friend. 70 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: So it was in some ways kind of almost a 71 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: blueprint for sex and the city in a certain way 72 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: at a different time. Right, So it meant so much 73 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: to us to get Valerie Harper. I remember being so 74 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: excited about that and kind of like starstruck and didn't 75 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: know what to say. Sir Jesco was so excited, which 76 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: I feel like you can see in those. 77 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 3: Totally their scenes together are so wonderful. 78 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: They're really good. They're really good. And then we have 79 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: justin Throw for the second time, which is kind of 80 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: hysterical because this is the second season and I had vaguely, 81 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: vaguely remembered that, but I'm not working with him, right, 82 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: but I know him. 83 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: He's such a. 84 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: Lovely guy, and I had completely forgotten about their rather 85 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: embarrassing storyline. Yes, I just remembered that he was on 86 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: the show, right, and the Valerie Harper's on the show, 87 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: And then when I actually watched what they're talking about, hilarious. 88 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: It's hilarious but also like so real. Yes, I mean 89 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: played for laughs, but yet still so real. All right, 90 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: So let's get back to a little bit of details. 91 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: So this episode is called Shortcomings, which is you know, yeah, perfect, 92 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: oh god, And it was directed by Daniel Algrandt, who's 93 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: a really interesting director and I honestly can't remember if 94 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: he came back or not. He had done a movie 95 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: in indie I think it's called is it called Naked 96 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: in New York. I should have asked you guys this 97 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: before we started get the producers to look it up. 98 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: He had, You know, there was a time when we 99 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: would get like indie film directors, especially first season, and 100 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: he was kind of a second season version of that. 101 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 4: Yeh. 102 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: Then also, we're at this point getting a lot of 103 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: sopranos directors in the loop, so I kind of got 104 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: this interesting mix going on. 105 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: Yes, Naked in New York. 106 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: That was his indie film in the nineties, So I 107 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, people like have a kind of 108 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: an indie hit back in the day when you could 109 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: have an indie hit, and then they're kind of like 110 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: the hot ticket. 111 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: This was Daniel Algrand and he was very sweet. 112 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: And this is written by Terry Minsky, which is also 113 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: interesting because Terry Minsky wrote in the first season, yet 114 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: was not on the set with us. And I think 115 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: by the time you came and I don't know if 116 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: you would remember this, we had Cindy Schupack and Jenny 117 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: Bicks were our supervising producer slash writers, right, so they 118 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: were around a lot, right, I mean, I probably saw 119 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: it's such a blur. Of course, of course, so this 120 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: is my Mewray story. So I did not remember that. 121 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: You were on our show. 122 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: So when my producer said, I was like, well, but 123 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: definitely call her. What on earth did she play? Because 124 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't remember. But you know, when you're not there 125 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: with other people, you don't always know what's going on 126 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: the storyline. 127 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 3: That's plus, you met a lot of people over the 128 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: course of all those and. 129 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: We didn't sleep. But the reason that it was interesting 130 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: to me is that when your show The Killing came on, 131 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: I remember watching the opening sequence. You're running in that 132 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: fisherman sweater. I believe you're in Vancouver, on the edge 133 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: of Stanley Park. That's a place we all know, all 134 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: actors know. And I was like, I love her, and 135 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: she seems so familiar, that was my thought. And I 136 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: watched that you were so yeah, but you're very unique, 137 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, and so specific. And when I see you 138 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: in that scene because of course I'm waiting with baited 139 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: Bread the whole episode where she wears and then finally 140 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: you show up, and you're just so interesting and so present. 141 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: And to think that that was your first job, my 142 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: first job in New artible incredible, your first job in 143 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: New York City. I love that so much. And that's 144 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: the joy of being on a show for a while. 145 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: That's right. 146 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 1: It's getting to see the talent that they were able 147 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: to find and pull. 148 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: Well, especially a show cast in New York, which just 149 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: feels like such a tight community of actors, and you 150 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: see people that are on stage and then they're shooting 151 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: an episode of a show and you see the same 152 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: thing in Only Murders in the building. You have all 153 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: of these wonderful New York actors that get pulled to 154 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: do Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it feels really. 155 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: It's so great, so great. So now I'm going to 156 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: talk about our other connection. Okay, So, sir, Jessica is 157 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: married to Matthew Brodrics. Matthew Broderick was in a movie 158 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: with your husband way back when we were young. 159 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was a kid. 160 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was of the age to be completely obsessed 161 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: with Ferriz Fueller Farrispuelller's Day Off. I hope all of 162 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: you have seen this, but if you haven't, you must 163 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: immediately go watch. It is a classic. And the joy 164 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: is that they're currently in Vancouver working. 165 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: Yes, forty years later Alan Rock Matthew Broderick, who originally 166 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: met doing a Broadway play LuxI Blues. 167 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: No, I've forgotten that part. 168 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: Yes, they saw, Yes, it was so incredible. 169 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: So they were already friends, yes, And so then Matthew 170 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: got Ferrispueler and then Allan was called in and of 171 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: course they got cast together. And so they were already 172 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: friends when they shot that film. And I feel like 173 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: you can really feel that in the chemistry and the 174 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: the you know, the scene where Alan is on the 175 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: phone and he's pretending to be so that was a joke. 176 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: The voice that he does, that was a joke to 177 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: crack Matthew up because he was doing an imitation of 178 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: Gene Sacks, who had directed BLUCKSI Blas. That's a little insider. 179 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: That's amazing. Oh, that's amazing. 180 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: And so they've stayed pals all these years. Forty years wow, 181 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: And right now they're shooting a movie called The Best 182 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: Is Yet to Come and it's about lifelong male friendship. 183 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: And it's just like Alan is having the time of the. 184 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: Yea the last time Matthew was in Vancouver. And this 185 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: is why Sarah Jessica told me about it. He and 186 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: I were filming a Christmas movie together in like one 187 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: hundred degree we know, August, and he was in a 188 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: hole tizzy about where to stay. You know, it's always 189 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: an issue right when you go on location. Where to stay? 190 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: Where to stay? Where to stay? And Sir Jessica was like, 191 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: where did you say? Where did he stay last time? 192 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: Remind me? And so week we had to talk it 193 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: through it. It really made me. 194 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: Laugh that number one, I love the interconnectedness of all 195 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: of us over time, and number. 196 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 2: Two, the HBO of it all is hysterical. 197 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean, like to watch Ellen, I mean throughout his career, Spencity, 198 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: so many amazing things, but the succession. 199 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: Succession, I mean yeah, I know, special experience, Yeah, I 200 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: mean yeah. And he plays such a hard character. But 201 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: you loved him, yes, you love him. And he's also 202 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: kind of a sociopath. He's a dumb dumb and also 203 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: like heartbreaking all the things. That's very hard. It's very hard, 204 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: very very hard. 205 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: He's amazing, he is. 206 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: Thank you. 207 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: I love to have you on and I love all 208 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: the connections. 209 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: It's always a joy to uh, you know, like the 210 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: Kevin Bacon six degrees of it's very it's very everyone's 211 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: very connected, and that is I think one of the 212 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: joys of our of our job. 213 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: Well, when you're in a career for like a long time, 214 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: that that just happens. You know, people's paths cross and 215 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: you work with each other's spouses and yeah, it's. 216 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: It's a joy. It's a joy. All right. Let's break 217 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: down this episode a little bit, because sometimes it's just 218 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: fun to chat. Yeah, I rewatch, but it was very 219 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: entertaining for me also to rewatch because sometimes I have 220 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of memories more behind the scenes, 221 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, what was going on that day, and then 222 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: sometimes I really remember the plot and sometimes I don't. 223 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was early too two. 224 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: It's true, and. 225 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: In my mind I thought that we had just to 226 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: throw in season one, which is he also plays a writer, 227 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: which is so weird. 228 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: What was going on with us? 229 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, she got cast again, Yes, as a writer. 230 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: Though we shaved his hair. That was like, oh, just. 231 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: Put some glasses on him. 232 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: Now he's a different persons exactly. 233 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: He's a different person, but he's adorable as both. 234 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: He plays a. 235 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: Slightly unlikable writer in each which is also interesting, you know, 236 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: it is interesting. Like the first one, he's like super 237 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: slick and he's just gotten like invited to parties and stuff. 238 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: And she also gives the writer advice as someone who's 239 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: a writer. Carry is obviously a writer, writer in the 240 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, thick of it in terms of Manhattan night life. 241 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: And then this one she's giving him advice. He says, 242 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to be in GQ. It's almost like the 243 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: same part but different. It's interesting and it's the kind 244 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: of thing and I, you know, certainly don't want to 245 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: dwell on this, but we just did, you know, and 246 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: just like that, and people got very obsessed with every 247 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: little detail, very upset about every little detail. I'm like, 248 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: back in the day, all kinds of stuff went on, 249 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: that's right. 250 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: You know, no one said anything. I don't know if 251 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: anyone noticed. 252 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: Probably not. I think I think we're in a new 253 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: moment of people wanting to like be in on every 254 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: single detail and wanting to have an opinion and. 255 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: Yes and say their opinion and yeah, and they have 256 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: a way to say it. 257 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: Yes we did for yeah, there wasn't. 258 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: I think this would have been the year two thousand. 259 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: Do you think that's right? I think that's right, right, 260 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: Which is I mean it seems like another lifetime ago. 261 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Things were so different. 262 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I was in my twenties. 263 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, adorable, Like you're in your team, 264 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: I do. 265 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: I have such a babyface. Actually in your hair. I 266 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: had forgotten what I looked like in it, and rewatched. 267 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, I look seventeen. 268 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: You really do. But beautiful, so beautiful, and you seem 269 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: sophisticated because you're sitting there with those people who are 270 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: all like very New York and yeah, you know type thing. 271 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: I love it. 272 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: Anyway, back to the show. Back to the show. So 273 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: this is a to me kind of a departure of 274 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: a show. Yeah, Like there are certain things about it, like, 275 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: for instance, the coffee shop. For some reason, we're all 276 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: plastered next to each other. 277 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: Did you notice this? Yes, our shoulders are literally. 278 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: Like going on, I don't know. And then there's like 279 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: a walk and talk where we're also like they're they're 280 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: like like, anyway, that was interesting. I mean we're kind 281 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: of finding our way in certain certain ways. And I 282 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: think also in different directors would come, we were more 283 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: affected by them and later on, yeah, you know, later 284 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: on we just be like, no, this is this is. 285 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 3: What we're doing. You had found your your own rhythm. 286 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: And you're kind of confident, yes, within that. But it's 287 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: also I found it especially in the coffee shop scene 288 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: because now we do have our coffee shop set. 289 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: In the beginning, we didn't. 290 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: We're like out about in different places, right, so it's 291 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: funny in the coffee shop, but we're like peppy, you 292 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That like really like energized repartee 293 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: is in full force, which I really enjoyed. Yeah, it 294 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: was nice to see we seem happy, which I'm sure 295 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: we were exhausted, but you know it has a lot 296 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: of energy. 297 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: Right, and it seems like you guys really enjoy each other. 298 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I know Sara Jessica seems super bubbly. 299 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: And also I think it's very hot when I look 300 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: at that what I remember, you know, there's like the 301 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: very hot summers and then they not so hot summers, 302 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: like medium. Her hair is like its natural self, you know, 303 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: and she's just radiant, and I feel like we were 304 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: all hot. 305 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: But it was great, you know, it was a fun, 306 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: fun hot I love that moment she bangs on the 307 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: glass since I know. 308 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: It's a classic. It's a classic. 309 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: See that also snuck up on me because I think 310 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: the way social media is now, you see these little 311 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: snippets and you're like, yes, of course I remember that 312 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: that was at the height. No, it's and I think 313 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: that the theme of this episode, which is family is 314 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: difficult and family is also your chosen who, which I 315 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: love so much, And I had no idea that we 316 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: had that theme really explicitly in there so early. 317 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, that's kind of amazing. 318 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: Well, and each of your individual storylines are I mean, 319 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: you have your brother obviously, who is your real family, 320 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: which is so strange. But there's also like the other 321 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: women are like in these little transitional mind it's not 322 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: people that are going to stay, which just like shines 323 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: light on how special the four of you are. 324 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: That's true, absolutely absolutely. Because my brother we never see 325 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: or hear from him again, including my two weddings. I'm 326 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: really sorry. 327 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: I'm really sorry. 328 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: He works a lot. He was on Ozark. He played 329 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: it an evil, evil lawyer. 330 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, there's my brother, my. 331 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: Brother exactly. I mean, now that i'm rewatching, I'm trying 332 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: to glom on any little details and to have my 333 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: brother there in his like preppy shorts. 334 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: It's very interesting. We did have an episode. 335 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: Before where I talk about how in my waspy family 336 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: we don't talk about feelings. 337 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: We play tennis, which is kind of funny because. 338 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: We've had a tennis storyline for Charlotte, like literally for 339 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: thirty years, you know. So the brother comes, we'll just 340 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: do this really quick because the brother's so weird, Like 341 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: we never see any of Charlotte's other relatives, no parents, nothing, right, 342 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: it's bizarre, bizarre. So the brother comes. He is getting 343 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: divorced from his wife, and I tell you guys that 344 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: he's coming to visit because he's getting to divorce. Yes, 345 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: And everyone makes fun of me. I tell you guys, 346 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: like you're in the scene, you're one of us now. 347 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: And everyone makes fun of Wesley and Leslie, which is 348 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: also like so preppy and funny, right, and very fine 349 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: to make fun of. But of course Charlotte really is 350 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: tired of getting made fun of at this point, jurning me, 351 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: and so I make all kinds of faces at them, 352 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: which is also funny. And then so and weirdly, I 353 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: guess not weirdly, you know, Charlotte's very pro marriage as 354 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: we know. 355 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: As we know, and yeah, she really is committed to 356 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: them getting back together, right, So, and she. 357 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: Keeps kind of slightly irritatingly asking him like did you 358 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: talk to Leslie? Did you talk to Leslie? 359 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: How's Lesly? 360 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: And he's like no, And then I do kind of 361 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: love in the end, and this is what I do. 362 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: I just synoped down when he says, you know, I 363 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: believe he says I hadn't got late or whatever, which 364 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: is a bit weird of a way to talk about 365 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: your wife, but whatever in two years. And then Charlotte 366 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: looks kind of horrified, yes, which is interesting, and then 367 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, I understand. So he so basically 368 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: what happens is that Samantha sleeps with my brother, which 369 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: clearly Charlotte knows it's going to happen, which is why 370 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: I don't invite Samantha. But then Carrie brings some. 371 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 3: Merings her and you're horrified that she's there, and. 372 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: Like awkward, like awkward and interesting. And also sometimes when 373 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: I watch it, I can tell, you know, there's occasionally 374 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: scenes with the three of them without me. I can 375 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: tell that I'm like a newer friend, and there is 376 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: a scene when we flash back to the eighties and 377 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: all of them are together, and I'm because they hadn't 378 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: met me yet. But we never explained that either. It's interesting, 379 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: but I can feel that when I watch this episode 380 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: because I pull carry over and I'm like, a, yeah, She's. 381 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: Like that's Samantha our friends, right, yeah. 382 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: Which is that's really funny and interesting. 383 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: But I did and then I mean my producers when 384 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: they watched it, they were like, oh, you shouted her 385 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: really harshly. The thing that I thought was so interesting 386 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: about it, I mean, for Charlotte, it is harsh to 387 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: say that, you know, she should be on like, you know, 388 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: a guide book of New York because her you know, 389 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: station is always open, so to speak that it is 390 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: of course a harsh thing for Charlotte to say. Yeah. 391 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: The thing that I find interesting is the way Samantha 392 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: talks about sex and herself. I mean not in a 393 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: derogatory way, but just in a very free way. It's 394 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: interesting that then she would take offense to me, yes, 395 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: saying that, But then I guess that also is kind 396 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: of true, like sometimes if. 397 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 3: You say something about yourself, yes, you can talk about 398 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 3: yourself in ways that you don't want other people to 399 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: talk about you. And what seemed to be true in 400 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: that scene is that where Samantha is very comfortable talking 401 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 3: about sex in that way Charlotte, it felt like new 402 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: ground for Charlotte to be so direct to her friend, 403 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: you know, and so that that felt like that was. 404 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: Where those definitely definitely I would never say anything like 405 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: that right my girlfriends, and I saw something recently about 406 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: I do feel like one of the joys of when 407 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: I compare things now to things back then is that 408 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: female friendship, I feel like is much more honored and 409 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: kind of discussed and you know, prioritized now as opposed 410 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: to back then. Back then, they say like, how did 411 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: you know you guys spend so much time together and 412 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: stuff like that, which, of course, obviously yes, obviously they 413 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: were young and somehow had a lot of time spending to. 414 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: Get through which people do. 415 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember spending a lot of time with 416 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: my girlfriends in my thirties. But I also think that 417 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: now people talk about it and talk about how important 418 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: it is, and that you know, like to nurture friendships, 419 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, through your life and through the different phases 420 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: of your life is so important, and I think that's 421 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: so incredibly true. And I also think it's so incredibly 422 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: risky to say something to your girlfriend sure that you 423 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: know they wouldn't. 424 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: Like, and that can be the end of a friendship. 425 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 2: It really could. 426 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: Depending on who you say that to, that could be 427 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: like game over. 428 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 1: I know, which is so sad, I know, But I 429 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: also think it's so interesting because I think that women, 430 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, have to kind of like I think, on 431 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: the one hand, there's this kind of perception of like, oh, yes, 432 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: women just hang out in groups, you know, like it's 433 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: like kind of silly or whatever, but then in reality, 434 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: we all know that it's not really that easy. 435 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 3: Yes, it can be tricky wrighting out with women, and 436 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: then you find your women who are like your people, right, 437 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: and then it's like those are the most supportive, wonderful. 438 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: Relationships, absolutely and so important. 439 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: But female relationships can be really tricky. 440 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: Right, And I think it's because it's not I don't 441 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: think it's something for my generation at least that was 442 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: kind of like worked on or encouraged, like you weren't 443 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: really taught how to be friends. I mean, like it 444 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: does come easy when you're young, but then I think 445 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: as you go through the different stages, it's not so easy. 446 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: And certainly as an actor, I know that one of 447 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 1: the joys of getting the show was that there were 448 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of women in around that you could that 449 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: you knew, Okay, we're all in this together, rather than 450 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: being the wife or the girlfriend or like you might 451 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: see another woman after. 452 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: But you'd be like, oh, there they go. 453 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: You know, you might not get a scene with them, right, 454 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean, have you found that in your career? 455 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? I spent a lot of time with guys, right, 456 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: because you cops and like, I'm serious people. I know, 457 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: I get cast as like little toughies, which is so funny, 458 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: it's so silly, you know. 459 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: I'm envious, though, I'm very envious. 460 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 3: It's fun getting to do I mean for everyone. Obviously 461 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 3: getting to do a balance of things is obviously of course, 462 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: you know, but yeah, I've gotten cast in lots of 463 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 3: movies where it's like a bunch of tough dudes. I mean, 464 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: and I'm like, they're great, you know, they're but also 465 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: like it does feel lonely sometimes to be like, oh where. 466 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: Are my Yeah, yeah, I think it's really lonely. I mean, 467 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: I love to be on the set with all the girls. Yeah, 468 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: oh I. 469 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: Love nothing more. Yeah, nothing more. 470 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the guys are fun, but like it's comfy 471 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: to have the girls. Yeah, it's definitely comfy. That's yeah. 472 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: It's one of the best best parts of this whole, whole, whole, long, long, 473 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: long term job that I've had. I love it so much. 474 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: And that's really why I never wanted to end, you know, 475 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: because it's hard to find that. 476 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 3: It is very hard to find those special groups. Yeah, 477 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: so you stay friends with whatever, and that's. 478 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: The joy, is it? Like with Matthew and your husband, Allan, 479 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: they you know, it's amazing to get to meet someone 480 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: so early in your career and stay friends and get 481 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: to work together again. That is just the best. Yeah. Anyway, Okay, 482 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: let's go back to the show. Okay, this makes me laugh. 483 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 1: I do not remember the storyline of Miranda, not for 484 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: one second watching it fresh. In the storyline, she is 485 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: at the gym, which is also kind of funny to me. 486 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, do we see her at the gym? 487 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: No, not really, So so Miranda is interestingly at a 488 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: very popular and busy New York City gym, and she's 489 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: there on the weekend, which is apparently kids weekend. I've 490 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: never gone to a gym. 491 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: And had children running around, no way, I mean, very interesting. 492 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: I would have to ask Terry Minsky who wrote this, 493 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: like if this was based on something, because that was 494 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: a rule that they had they had had to read. Yeah, 495 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: so I guess I guess there were some gyms this 496 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: was happy. I didn't go to those gyms either. So 497 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: there's like children running amok okay basically at this gym. 498 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: So then she's all kind of rolling her eyes in 499 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: her Miranda way. She looks adorable, you know, like it's 500 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: just so cute, early Miranda. And then she gets in 501 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: the elevator and there's this very handsome dad there with 502 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: a kid who wants to push the buttons of the elevator. 503 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: We've all been there, yes, I have a seven year old. 504 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's a situation. And I felt so kind 505 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: of seen on the one hand by the storyline, but 506 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: also embarrassed because I have been the parents saying please, 507 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: don't don't. 508 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: Touch the butt, could you let Yeah? And then of 509 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: course they touched. Sofying. 510 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: What is that about with children? 511 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: It's so interesting, so interesting. So anyway that the dad 512 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: asks Miranda not to push the buttons, and the kid 513 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: then pushes all the buttons and then the dad apologize 514 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: and the dad, it's very adorable, and does find a 515 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: way to mention that he's divorced, which I thought was 516 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: really smooth on his part. 517 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: Yes, and then you can. 518 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: See Miranda kind of look at him twice like oh interesting. 519 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: So then he asks her. 520 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: She gets out of the elevator and he asks her 521 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 1: to come back in and she does, which is so cute, adorable, 522 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: very cute, very New York kind of a thing. 523 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: But the kid. 524 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: I felt for the kid because literally, this man is 525 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: seems relatively newly divorced. We don't hear his whole story. 526 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: But you can feel that he's still figuring out what 527 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: that looks like and how to do it right. 528 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: And I mean sometimes as the episode went on, I wondered, like, 529 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: where is this mother because apparently she's just not around 530 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: because he's got this kid a lot. But also as 531 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: a single mom, I also really relate. Now I have 532 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: never taken my children with me on a date because 533 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: I never really would. No, I mean, it is like 534 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: a park later, right, what do you think? 535 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, like months later if it's going well, right, you know, right, yeah, 536 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: on the first date, stroll in the park. 537 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: With the kid, with the kid, I know, yeah, I know, 538 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: But I I also feel this is probably not nice 539 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: where I'm going to say, But sometimes I feel like 540 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: dads are clueless. Maybe that's true, Like I see dad's 541 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: at the park sometimes, but sometimes I'm just like, what 542 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: is this dad doing? 543 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: Like can a mom tell the dad, like, don't let 544 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: the kid do that? 545 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 546 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 2: I have some anxiety for the dad. 547 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: Yes, well, case in point. I mean, the boy clabbers 548 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: Miranda over the head with a branch and then isn't disciplined. 549 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: No, no, I know it. 550 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: Dad doesn't seem no to know what to do. 551 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Miranda, I know it. 552 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: She gets clabbed, I know, with a pretty big stick 553 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: in Central Park and that's before he hands are a worm. 554 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: I believe. Yes, I mean there's a lot going on, yes, 555 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: and Miranda hangs in there, which is also kind of interesting. 556 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: But I also feel like it's like early Miranda is different. 557 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: She's sweet. 558 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean, she has her cover, but she's also got 559 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: like a sweetness. 560 00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 3: Yes she does. 561 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: It's adorable, But this guy does seem kind of clueless, 562 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: you know, dad, but he's really cute. And at a 563 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: certain point they do cut to them in bed and 564 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: they look very happy. 565 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 3: Yes, it seems like. 566 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, so I guess maybe that's what she's doing. 567 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, but this also cracked me up. When 568 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: after we first meet the guy whose name I can't 569 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: remember because he's not going to be around long so 570 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: we don't have to use his name, they cut to 571 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: us at the coffee shop and Miranda is talking about 572 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: how his name is Roger, and Miranda's talking about because 573 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: he's divorced, he seems use. Isn't that a weird thing? 574 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 3: It's a weird thing to say, No, that's true. I 575 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: thought that conversation was. Yeah, it was a little funny, 576 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 3: it was a little odd. 577 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: It's dated. It didn't hold so much dated. 578 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: No, it is. We would never say that now, absolutely, 579 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: Not just because somebody has been married. I mean you 580 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: could also say that anyone who has been in a 581 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: long term relationship. 582 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: Okay, it's fine with me. 583 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 3: That anyone's been in a long term relationship is used. Right, 584 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 3: It's not. 585 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: No, it's horrible and insane, right, there'd be no one left. 586 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: That's right, because everybody comes with the context yes, right, yes, 587 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 3: unless you're eighteen. 588 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: Years old, like right, and who would want to be 589 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 2: doing that? 590 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I really was like when when they because 591 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: they kind of smashed cut into her, going like it's 592 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: like he's used, and I thought, what is she talking about? 593 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: Like I had to really catch up a minute, like 594 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: we would. I don't think we'd ever say that now, 595 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: No way, no way, right, yeah, like you'd just be 596 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: very out of touch if you said that. That's right. Yeah, 597 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: that was interesting. 598 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: That whole conversation was interesting. 599 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: But this is why I like to rewatch, because some 600 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: things you're like, oh, whoa, and then sometimes you're like, 601 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: that's that's so true. Yeah yeah, And I do think 602 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: trying to to juggle children and dating is of course 603 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: universal and will probably continue for all of the time. 604 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 2: And it's a real thing. I mean, this guy's just 605 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: not very good at it. 606 00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 607 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: And also I feel bad for this kid because he 608 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: seems like he's really suffering that he he seems jealous of. 609 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: That conversation that right, yeah right, I mean maybe there's 610 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: a clue in the fact that this guy says I'm 611 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: the anomaly. Actually, I just like to be married and yeah, right, 612 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: and so maybe he's just like actually trying to slot 613 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: Miranda into this family dynamic faster than race. 614 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: That's a good point. 615 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: I didn't think of that, Yeah, because that is really 616 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: odd that he says that. And I mean, I just 617 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: found myself wondering, like, what is this dude's backstory, what happened, 618 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: what happened. 619 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: To the marriage, where's the wife, what's going on? Where's 620 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: ex wife? How long have you been divorced? 621 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to know more about him than I normally 622 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: want to know about our art, like one pole. 623 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 3: Also, we have quite gotten there, but his reaction in 624 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: the next scenes where the boy, I don't know if 625 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: you want to do recare for it. 626 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 2: Because I enjoyed it. 627 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: So it's after you know, she spent the night and 628 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 3: Miranda's having a pee and the little boy starts to 629 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: come in the bathroom and of course she goes to 630 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: close the door and he gets his head bonked, and 631 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: then there's like a real overreaction I feel like on 632 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: the dad's Yeah, and basically Miranda just gets like shown 633 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: the door. 634 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he says please leave. He says it a 635 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: couple of times. This is one thing I do remember 636 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: of that episode is that there was a lot of 637 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: discussion about his wound. The kids would because when you 638 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: see it, it's bloody. Why did that door make that blood? 639 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, And I'm saying like it's mysterious, yes, 640 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: And I remember there being a fair amount I don't 641 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 1: know at that point in time of our production, like 642 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: how sophisticated our stuff was, Duran whenever you have somebody 643 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: get bumped or get banged or anything like that, because 644 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: we don't see him, we just hear it, right, and 645 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: then cut to there's yeah, you know, which is strange. 646 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: But I also felt like if we did know more 647 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: about the dad, I mean, I've certainly overreacted before. 648 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: Well yeah, of course I have two kids. I've definitely overreacted, right. 649 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: But it's also weird how like the kid kind of 650 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: looks at her over the show like there's something kind 651 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: of going on where you're like, he just wanted her 652 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: to go. 653 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: Because Miranda, I know, I'm poor the kid, I'm poor 654 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: the kid, everybody for everybody. 655 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's kind of sad because then we really 656 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: don't hear that much. 657 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: It's just gone, But you know, good that she tried, 658 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: I guess, but also that's like another show. I feel 659 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: like that is his own show. 660 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: I wonder how which which season does Miranda get her 661 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: own child. That's not it's for a while, it's a while, 662 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: But I feel like that was a little like just 663 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: early Crumb. 664 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: Because I was thinking the same thing when I was 665 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: watching it, because I do know at a certain point 666 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: season three is when I meet Kyle and get married 667 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: and then start to try to get pregnant, and then 668 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: she gets pregnant by mistake. So it's not that long. 669 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: It's because we're almost at the end of two. But 670 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't know because this is Terry Minsky's script and 671 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: she wasn't with us all the time, and it was 672 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: definitely like a long term plan that Michael had that 673 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: both Miranda and Charlotte would get pregnant at the same time. 674 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: That was the original plan. Okay, it didn't work out 675 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: because then Michael decided, probably rightly so, that because all 676 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: of our female writers were single, and none of our 677 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: guy writers, who I think there were two of them 678 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: at that time, no one had children, so they were 679 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: having to mine their friends' stories and they didn't have 680 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: enough to have two sets of stories because they wanted 681 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: them to be contrasting stories which would be interesting but 682 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: not as interesting as Charlotte not being able to and 683 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: Miranda accidentally and then being unsure and all. 684 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: Of the No, It's part of what I just love 685 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: about the show is that if each of these women's 686 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: expectations of what their life is going to be gets 687 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: flipped on its head, yep, and so they're having to 688 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: manage like their own expectations of what their life has become. Yeah, 689 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 3: it's powerful. 690 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: It is powerful and so true to life. You know, 691 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: someone asked me yesterday, I don't know if you get 692 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: questions like this. You're not as old as I am, 693 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: but people love to ask you about eighteen right. You know, 694 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: how how are you looking at aging? How do you 695 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: how do you feel? How old do you feel inside? 696 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: You know? 697 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: All the questions right, And I mean I. 698 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: Feel very young inside. I feel like forty maybe, or it's. 699 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: Hard about the number, right, you know whatever. Some days, 700 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: like my husband, who I won't say his name, but 701 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: like he's like when he looks at his own age, 702 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: his eyes get real big and he's like, how is 703 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: it literally possible? I still feel eighteen? 704 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: Right, Oh, I don't know. I don't personally know how 705 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: it's possible. 706 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: For me either. I mean you have to look sometimes 707 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: at your driver's license to be like, you're like, that 708 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: is mean, it doesn't just happen at all, totally totally, 709 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: but I think that is a blessing, right, because what 710 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: does it really even mean? That's I'm true the good 711 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: news of what it means. And this is what I 712 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: end up saying. I mean, I think it means two things. 713 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: Number One, we're doing great. Yeah, we're hoping, we're happy, right, 714 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: we're still in it, We're sort of functioning, we're doing 715 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: new things, right, this is great, this is what you want. 716 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: Secondarily, I remember. 717 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: A lot of anxiety in my thirties, right, so I 718 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: don't have that anymore yet. And some of it is 719 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: what you touched on about our characters is that you 720 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: you you have expectations, you don't know what's going to happen. 721 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: You don't know if you're on the right. 722 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: Track towards those expectations, or maybe you need to change 723 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: your expectations, or you know, there's so many questions like 724 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: is it all going to work it out? 725 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: And what do I need to do to tick the 726 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: boxes right equals happiness. 727 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: Right, and in reality, you know, none of that is 728 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: probably even really true. And that's what I love so 729 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: much about our writers. I mean, some of it's true. 730 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: Like did Charlotte truly want to be married? 731 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: She did? She did? Or she she really wanted the 732 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 3: idea of what that was. 733 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: She did, and then she found out that the outer 734 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: idea was not what she wanted, right, and then she 735 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: found her real, her real thank god, thank god, she 736 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: was able to change and grow. And that was their idea. 737 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: And the idea also was to never give any of 738 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 1: us what we wanted, because you don't have a show. 739 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: Then, you know what I mean. 740 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: I am lucky that Charlotte got Harry. I guess I 741 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: should be, you know, lucky that like nothing happened to 742 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: him or whatever, thank god, because it was such a 743 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: growth I think for Charlotte, and that what I like 744 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: about her. She's super persistent, right, So she was going 745 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: to pursue, going to pursue, no matter what the roadblocks were, right, 746 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: Like she couldn't get pregnant, she was going to adopt. 747 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: Then she does get pregnant, She's going to roll with it. 748 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: She's going to roll with it, and I love that 749 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: effort that she makes. But I also think that her 750 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: ability to roll with it, you know, brings her depth 751 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: and wisdom and changes her focus. 752 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 2: Though sometimes she drifts back. 753 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: Which is also so interesting, like you'll drift back to 754 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: the details. 755 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 3: So the things that are the most kind of comfortable 756 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 3: and from the. 757 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: Way you grew up or whatever it is totally or 758 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: like the expectations, like you started by saying, you'll drift 759 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: back to those expectations and then be reminded again, Oh no, 760 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: that's not it's not actually life. It's not actually what's important, 761 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: which I love. I love. I can't talk about the 762 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: others expectations as much as I can talk about Charlotte's right, right, right, 763 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: and I love hers, and I had to think through hers, 764 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: you know, for so long, which you know is a joy, 765 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: right obviously, like a great character thing. But it's interesting 766 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: too because if you think about, like, you know, Carrie's 767 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: expectations are interesting. And one of the things I think 768 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: about when I do, I think because our show ended, 769 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: and everyone had to talk about how and just like 770 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: that ended, versus how Sex and the City ended, because 771 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: people were upset obviously when Sex and City the first 772 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,959 Speaker 1: show ended because everyone was coupled up and they didn't 773 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: feel like that rang true. But sometimes when I'm watching 774 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: old episodes, it kind of seems like everyone but Samantha 775 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 1: wants to be coupled up, like even Miranda, who I 776 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: had never. 777 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 3: Clocked, right because she seems like such a like. 778 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 4: A driven career woman, right, But I mean, yeah, everyone 779 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 4: wants somebody, right, and companionship, yes, and right, and to 780 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 4: see everybody maybe to be seen definitely. 781 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean Samantha definitely wants to be sure, but it 782 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: doesn't really want a relationship, right. 783 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 2: But then she gets with then she gets coming. 784 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: But that, yeah, that's like her flip is that she 785 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 3: actually wants to keep it easy, breezy, short term, right, 786 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 3: and she gets this long term relationship with a younger man, 787 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, and then has to deal with cancer 788 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,959 Speaker 3: and all of right, you know. 789 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: And he's there for her. He's such a sweet way. 790 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: That's going to be so interesting. I want to have that. 791 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: Jason Smith on he's so good, you guys, this is 792 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: so much fun that we're going to have to have 793 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: a part two, so join us later in the week 794 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: on are you a Charlotte