WEBVTT - Context is Crucial with Johnny Nunez

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's up. Family. It's your girl, Tamika D.

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<v Speaker 2>Mallory, and it's your boy, my son and general, and

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<v Speaker 2>we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Your host of street politicians the place, the streets and politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, it's so funny. You just eat bunny.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you are fink. Let me tell you so.

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<v Speaker 3>I just saw a friend of mine a few moments ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and she went to is it called Pouquette. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's pouquette. People be saying fuck it, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's we call it fuck it, it's pouquet. And like

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<v Speaker 3>all of these places that she went to, Bali and

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<v Speaker 3>when she left, like me, she was struggling with love handles.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we always talk about how we feel like

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<v Speaker 3>we got these little love handles we can't get rid of.

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<v Speaker 3>And then three weeks later when she gets back, she's massive, small,

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<v Speaker 3>like her stomach has gone down. The love handles are

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<v Speaker 3>almost completely gone. And I'm like, what happened to your no?

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<v Speaker 3>The food with yo? I just said the other day,

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<v Speaker 3>these rats in New York City, they are so big,

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<v Speaker 3>and the rats eat the same food that we eat

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<v Speaker 3>because basically they eat garbage. So if the rats are

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<v Speaker 3>growing big like that, and you can clearly see that

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<v Speaker 3>she left town.

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<v Speaker 1>And got smaller. Well, she was still eating she says,

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<v Speaker 1>she still ate rice.

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<v Speaker 3>They were still eating seasoned food all the time. They

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<v Speaker 3>were still eating much of the same things, especially dishes,

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<v Speaker 3>Asian style dishes over there and here, the same food.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, she said that the other night she had

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<v Speaker 3>a taste for something that, you know, some Asian dish

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<v Speaker 3>that she ordered from somewhere, and she felt sick after

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<v Speaker 3>eating it, but she was just eating it there and

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<v Speaker 3>it was fine. So that just tells me that what

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<v Speaker 3>we're putting, what we're consuming, the preservatives and additives and

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<v Speaker 3>the spray and the treatment of the meat and whatever

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<v Speaker 3>else we're eating, it's really not healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been saying.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been saying that most of the year USDA food

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<v Speaker 4>would never pass inspection in.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the other countries.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we have the lowest, lowest grade of meat, We

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<v Speaker 4>have the lowest grade of most of the stuff. If

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<v Speaker 4>you eating trash, you're eating triple trash. And if you're

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<v Speaker 4>eating good, then you eating bottom level good. So the

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<v Speaker 4>best thing you can do is eat good, Like that's

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<v Speaker 4>the best thing you can do. Like I just eat

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<v Speaker 4>I eat green. I don't even eat rice no more.

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<v Speaker 4>Only eat green vegetables. Maybe some cart sometimes hame some corn,

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<v Speaker 4>but for the most part, it's green vegetables. And my

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<v Speaker 4>I do a little bit of poultry because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mix it up with my with my seafood. But

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<v Speaker 4>that's pretty much it for me. Man, I try not

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<v Speaker 4>to eat a lot of condiments. I try not to

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<v Speaker 4>do bread.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to be a lot more intentional about my health,

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<v Speaker 4>trying to flush, you know, because I normal drink me

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit ain't now and then, So I try

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<v Speaker 4>to drink water, either alcohol or water. You might drink

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<v Speaker 4>a little ginger ale here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>But for the ginger is water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so pretty much that's that's all. That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like we were not We ain't no spring chickens.

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<v Speaker 4>We gotta be a lot more intentional about our health, man,

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<v Speaker 4>because if you got to take care of your body,

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<v Speaker 4>so when you get older, your body take care of you.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, my father always said that you take care

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<v Speaker 3>of your teeth, they'll take care of you. If you

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<v Speaker 3>take care of your body, it'll take care of you.

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<v Speaker 3>My father, as.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, is a man of few words.

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<v Speaker 3>When he's, you know, just wants to drop a gym.

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<v Speaker 1>He always said, some they're good.

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<v Speaker 3>We're back and forth between Kentucky and run home, try

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure you take care of your children and

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<v Speaker 3>do the things you need to do for your family stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And then over here work and gotta get your hair

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<v Speaker 3>done and your haircut, and boom back on the plane

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<v Speaker 3>back to Kentucky with our entire team. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to say that two things about Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing is that.

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<v Speaker 3>The most traumatizing part of being out there registering voters.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just in the mall the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, it's traumatizing when people say ignorant things like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't do politics, because politics one hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you?

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<v Speaker 3>And if you saying you don't do politics, and yet

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<v Speaker 3>you living halfway on the edge, living in certain communities,

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<v Speaker 3>living certain you know how people, some of them live

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<v Speaker 3>certain ways of you know, we got our different things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, some of us might be living in extremely

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't want to say extremely wealthy, because

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<v Speaker 3>I know that's a very small percentage, but living middle class,

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<v Speaker 3>living pretty well, even that, even though you may think

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<v Speaker 3>you sort of separated from it, the politics control whether

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<v Speaker 3>how it's maintained. Like everything we do, politics do us.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's of course very you know, concerning, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>the amount of folks who said, I can't vote because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a felon. When I tell you that every maybe

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<v Speaker 3>every four black men, if I saw ten to twelve

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<v Speaker 3>black men in one area or just in the course

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<v Speaker 3>of registering people throughout the day, two of them could register.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest could not.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot Man and I want to give a shout out

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<v Speaker 4>to David Ayala, you know who we did a.

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<v Speaker 2>Press conference and we actually partnering with in our campaign.

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<v Speaker 4>He is the executive director of Formerly Incarcerated, Convicted People

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<v Speaker 4>and Families Movement and they have a campaign called Free

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<v Speaker 4>to Vote in which, you know, they have been working

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<v Speaker 4>on restoring the rights formally incarcerated, system impacted and justice

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<v Speaker 4>impacted individuals as they call it, and they've done a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of work and actually about two hundred thousand people

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<v Speaker 4>have gotten their voting rights restored, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people don't even know that. So when we have that conversation,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and they say that, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>times were able to look up and say, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you actually can vote. You know, ve shot them out

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<v Speaker 4>for that. They had a ceremony in which they unveiled

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<v Speaker 4>a new billboard that's going to be in low vote

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<v Speaker 4>and it's going to be on the buses in Loco

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<v Speaker 4>and we partner with them, so you know, it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to show that we're working with them and we're doing

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of work. Hopefully, you know, we'll be able

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<v Speaker 4>to get people out to vote because it is a

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<v Speaker 4>very very very important election. You know, we need the

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<v Speaker 4>people that's free to vote to go vote for Brianna.

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<v Speaker 3>They already not vote for Brianna. On November fourth, will

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<v Speaker 3>be there marching folks to the polls and then November

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<v Speaker 3>seventh is election day, so November second, November two. November

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<v Speaker 3>two is the beginning of early voting where you don't

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<v Speaker 3>need an excuse.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just go.

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<v Speaker 3>Because if you have an excuse like you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be traveling or you have a disability, there is a

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<v Speaker 3>list of things if.

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<v Speaker 1>You go to go vote dot Kentucky dot.

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<v Speaker 3>Com, you can go on there and find a list

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<v Speaker 3>of things that would give you an excuse to vote

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<v Speaker 3>early than November two. So there's an earlier vote in

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<v Speaker 3>October where people who have an excuse, who have a

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<v Speaker 3>reason to vote early, early can go and vote, They

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<v Speaker 3>can cast their vote. But the November second date is

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<v Speaker 3>the date we're focused on. When it's early voting, whether

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<v Speaker 3>you have an excuse or not, just everybody, lotty dotting

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<v Speaker 3>and everybody can.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to the polls.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to make sure that we turn folks out

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<v Speaker 3>beginning November second, so you're not even worried about standing

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<v Speaker 3>on the line on November seventh and all day and

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<v Speaker 3>whatever the inconveniences are, you can get out there on

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<v Speaker 3>November two. On November fourth, which is a Saturday, we

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<v Speaker 3>will be organizing folks to show up to go to

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<v Speaker 3>the polls. So that's the deal. We're gonna march with folks.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have food, we're gonna have all the things

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<v Speaker 3>that people need to get involved.

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<v Speaker 1>So we want to make sure that folks are aware

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And the speaking of police brutality and Breonna Taylor, I

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<v Speaker 3>just posted and we are now you know, have now

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<v Speaker 3>entered the support for Steve Perkins family. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>young man in Alabama, Mobile, Alabama to stay with my mother.

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<v Speaker 3>Was born and raised the state where I spent most

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<v Speaker 3>of my summers my family members live in Mobile right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Shakisha Clemens is from Mobile, Alabama. Who's another person that

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<v Speaker 3>was abused by police there in in in Mobile or

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<v Speaker 3>the little town neighboring town of Mobile. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we've spent a lot of time there, so we know

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<v Speaker 3>a lot about the difficulties of the relationship between police

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<v Speaker 3>and community. Obviously as it relates to Steve Perkins, there's

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<v Speaker 3>much work to be done. I just want to tell

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<v Speaker 3>so I can just tell you the story off the

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<v Speaker 3>top of my head for folks who are listening, and

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<v Speaker 3>you should absolutely do your research and shout out to

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<v Speaker 3>our brother, attorney Lee Merritt, who is the attorney for

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<v Speaker 3>the family. So Steve Perkins is in his house sleeping.

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<v Speaker 3>He heard some noise out in his yard, a loud noise,

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<v Speaker 3>so he ran out to see what was going on

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<v Speaker 3>with his weapon in tow which is it is It

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<v Speaker 3>is legal. He had a legally registered weapon and he

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<v Speaker 3>went out to see what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a tow truck attempting to take his vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>He went out.

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<v Speaker 3>He said to the tow truck driver, Hey, hey, don't

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<v Speaker 3>touch my vehicle. It is no longer in repossession. State

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. I'm you know, don't you can't, don't take

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<v Speaker 3>my car. I already has been straightened out. The tow

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<v Speaker 3>truck driver left or put the car down or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I might be wrong about that, but I know the

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<v Speaker 3>tow truck driver, Steve went back into the house and

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<v Speaker 3>thought the situation was resolved, and the tow truck driver

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<v Speaker 3>called the police, told the police that Steve Perkins pointed

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<v Speaker 3>a weapon at him, and at which time the police

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<v Speaker 3>set up sort of you know, sort of like the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing they did with the Tatiana Jefferson where they

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<v Speaker 3>were hiding in the dark, and they allowed the man

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<v Speaker 3>to go back and begin to tow the car again.

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<v Speaker 3>So he when Steve came back out, he had a

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<v Speaker 3>gun with a flashlight on it. He came out, He's

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<v Speaker 3>pointing the gun and the flashlight, which again is on

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<v Speaker 3>his property. He's already told this man tow truck company

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<v Speaker 3>to leave, and he had he does not see police officers.

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<v Speaker 3>The police, like you said, they ambushed him. They shot

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<v Speaker 3>and they killed this man, this father, husband, son, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>upstanding citizen and a licensed person who had a license

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<v Speaker 3>to carrying, a license to have his weapon in his home.

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<v Speaker 1>On his property.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't down the street, he wasn't at the store,

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't across the street. Then, wasn't in his car,

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't sneak nobody. He was at his own home,

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<v Speaker 3>and he told the toe truck driver to leave, and

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>There are many other details in terms of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Many of the details in terms of this ship that

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<v Speaker 3>was said, the ways in which the cops have behaved.

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<v Speaker 1>And now hopefully by the time that folks see.

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<v Speaker 3>This show or hear this show, they would have released

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<v Speaker 3>all the videotapes, the body cameras of the officers who

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<v Speaker 3>were there, and furthermore, those offices will be arrested and

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<v Speaker 3>charged with the murder of Steve Perkins.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just so mind boggling how we keep having the

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<v Speaker 4>same shit over, like they keep too much as training

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<v Speaker 4>shit and this and that, I don't understand what human

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<v Speaker 4>being goes to somebody's house, right, and you're just interested

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<v Speaker 4>in trying to shoot and kill them and the thing

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<v Speaker 4>is for me. And they keep saying it's not racially motivated.

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<v Speaker 4>They keep saying that, you know, it's it's the law

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<v Speaker 4>and it's not racial. It's just and it's like they

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<v Speaker 4>find a way not to.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill white people.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, somebody they sent me a video yesterday where

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<v Speaker 4>a white lady is banging on the precinct doing with

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<v Speaker 4>the gun window woomb and boom, bangings and and she

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<v Speaker 4>starts shooting the window.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody shoots the white lady. She leaves.

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<v Speaker 4>She they they arrest her without incident. And it's like, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Just did the video of the white man who drove

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<v Speaker 3>his truck into the police station, jumped out doing some

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<v Speaker 3>crazy stuff. They got him, they put their hands, put

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<v Speaker 3>them on a handcuffs so the wall, and arrested. They

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<v Speaker 3>didn't just come out like because I'm gonna be honest

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<v Speaker 3>with you, but yo.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have been that's wing. I could sit there

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<v Speaker 4>and say, damn, I don't know what this man might do.

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<v Speaker 4>But the thing is they see white people as humans.

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<v Speaker 4>They see him as they identify them as hut. They

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<v Speaker 4>see that they might be sitting wrong with them. They

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<v Speaker 4>immediately have been trained. Even black officers have been trained

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<v Speaker 4>to view black men and women as a threat. They

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<v Speaker 4>just view us as a threat. They feel out your

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<v Speaker 4>life is always engaged you when it's a black person,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Folks should look out for more from until Freedom on

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<v Speaker 3>the Steve Perkins situation because it's just it's just, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just that. But in this topic I want to talk about,

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<v Speaker 3>it's supposed to be a topic, but because we have

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<v Speaker 3>our guests coming on, I'm going to merge it with

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<v Speaker 3>my thought of the day. Why don't people read? Like

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<v Speaker 3>really read? And I wonder if people know that headlines

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<v Speaker 3>rarely match the exact sentiment of a story.

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<v Speaker 4>The headline is to make you pay attention to the story.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, what they said this or what they said,

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<v Speaker 4>so that you can actually go read the story. So

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<v Speaker 4>if you make an assessment just being through the headline,

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<v Speaker 4>then you might be completely awful about what you're coming

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<v Speaker 4>in on.

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<v Speaker 3>Further More, a headline is very short, so there's no

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<v Speaker 3>way for its capture unless you are extremely thoughtful. There

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<v Speaker 3>is almost no way for it to capture exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>you are attempting to say.

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<v Speaker 1>And so with that being said, it brings me.

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<v Speaker 3>To for just Carly Russell's situation that I've been talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to continue to what I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 3>one thousand percent right. I know there's nobody that can

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<v Speaker 3>convince me of anything different. Nobody that's going to tell

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<v Speaker 3>me that the point that I'm raising is not an

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<v Speaker 3>important point.

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<v Speaker 1>In this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Using Carly Russell as an example, I wrote in my

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<v Speaker 3>post on my page the first line that Carly Russell

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<v Speaker 3>has received swift justice. I didn't say injustice. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>say I said swift justice, which means that at this

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<v Speaker 3>point she's already been to court now hurt. Between her,

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<v Speaker 3>the lawyers and the judge, they're working on whatever ruling

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<v Speaker 3>that's necessary, probably to limit the amount of time that

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<v Speaker 3>she would have to do, but keeping it keeping her

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<v Speaker 3>from having to go through a long trial and doing

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff. They are trying to move things along,

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<v Speaker 3>and the judge has already given his recommendations as to

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<v Speaker 3>what he feels should be done, and now it is

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<v Speaker 3>up to them to solidify it and move forward. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so this is what has happened. So what I said

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<v Speaker 3>was Carly Russell has received swift justice, moved through the system.

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<v Speaker 1>She was found to do something dumb and dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>I said that dumb because it was definitely dumb and

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<v Speaker 3>it was dangerous, and she absolutely must face the consequences

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<v Speaker 3>of her actions.

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<v Speaker 1>I said.

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<v Speaker 3>At the same time, Shan'tquella Robinson's murderers are still free.

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<v Speaker 3>It hasn't it's gone unaddressed, I said. Brianna Taylor's mother

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<v Speaker 3>is still waiting for justice for her child.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are a number of other.

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<v Speaker 3>Cases just like they said, well, Carly created anxiety because

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<v Speaker 3>she lied and she did all of this. Cops lie

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<v Speaker 3>still and kill on a daily basis, and sometimes we're

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<v Speaker 3>waiting five, six years and even more for there to

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<v Speaker 3>be any accountability in those cases. I said, So everybody

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<v Speaker 3>can carry on to talk about Carly because folks celebrating deaths, right,

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<v Speaker 3>she deserved it. And some people said, well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>celebrating it. I'm not sure that everybody reads what they're

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<v Speaker 3>writing and may and I'm sure there's some people that

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<v Speaker 3>are not celebrating it. But if you read some of

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<v Speaker 3>the comments they like, that's right, that's right. She deserved that.

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<v Speaker 3>She needs more time. So while folks cheer on the

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<v Speaker 3>process for working quickly to make sure that she's accountable,

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<v Speaker 3>I know I understand that this system will often move

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<v Speaker 3>quick to find justice and accountability and to demonize us

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<v Speaker 3>when we do anything. From still a py anything, what

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<v Speaker 3>was his name?

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<v Speaker 1>Khalie Browner.

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<v Speaker 3>They say he had a book bag that he stole

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<v Speaker 3>from somebody, right, he had a book bag that they

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<v Speaker 3>never even they were never even able to confirm he

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<v Speaker 3>had the book bag.

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<v Speaker 1>The next thing you know, he ended up in Rikers.

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<v Speaker 3>Island as a minor. He was being beaten and raped

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<v Speaker 3>in prison. So they can gay can they can go

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<v Speaker 3>from a book bag to a robbery to a kidnap,

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<v Speaker 3>a fake kidnapping, and lies quick about us. And we

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<v Speaker 3>will make sure we aid in that, we will stand by.

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<v Speaker 3>We would say that's throw the book at them. They

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<v Speaker 3>wrong that this that we would we will join in

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<v Speaker 3>the choir of making sure there's accountability when we feel

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<v Speaker 3>that something someone has done inconvenience does hurt us, have

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<v Speaker 3>impacted us.

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<v Speaker 1>All of those things are true around Carly.

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<v Speaker 3>But when it comes to a constant determination to push

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<v Speaker 3>back on the fact that for whatever reason, their own

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<v Speaker 3>that when when when when the system is responsible, responsible

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<v Speaker 3>for correcting itself and for holding itself accountable, then all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, it's complicated. It's more complicated, okay. And

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<v Speaker 3>I said they got to get somebody else to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I refuse to participate in it. It doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand. I'm not out here going to court

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<v Speaker 3>with the young lady or saying that she shouldn't receive time.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a different perspective. I don't even share you.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've been in the streets for my whole life,

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<v Speaker 4>right and I know dudes that got gun chargers. I

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<v Speaker 4>know dudes that got assault chargers that didn't get a

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<v Speaker 4>year in jail, they got probation, they got six months,

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<v Speaker 4>that did all types of shit. So you know, as

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<v Speaker 4>much as I think what she did is dumb, and

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<v Speaker 4>she definitely needs some accountability. Giving that lady a whole

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<v Speaker 4>year in prison like a regular working lady, like it

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<v Speaker 4>just to me, it's just stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody was harmed, you know that. I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't see I don't even see the lodger, but

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<v Speaker 4>I see what they're trying to do. They want to

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<v Speaker 4>make some level of example. But it's just like, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's a poor example. I think that making a

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<v Speaker 4>pay man, even if you put up on house arrest

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<v Speaker 4>and make it I have to do community service where

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<v Speaker 4>she got to go deal with women who were batter

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<v Speaker 4>you know, have to go to shelters and deal with

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<v Speaker 4>women who actually have been abducted, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>listen to their story, like those are the lessons you teach.

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<v Speaker 4>Just sending somebody to jail, will you take a year

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<v Speaker 4>their life away? You know, it's gonna be hard for

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<v Speaker 4>to find a job. She's gonna have to leave, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>her apartment or whatever. Don't know if it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>able to sustain, to live somewhere like it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>prison is one of the biggest inconvenience and just it's

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<v Speaker 4>a reset for life. And sometimes everybody don't need the reset,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying. Everybody don't need like a research.

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<v Speaker 4>And sometimes people need accountability. They need to see the

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<v Speaker 4>errors in their ways. You know, you charge her some money,

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<v Speaker 4>you make her do community service in certain places, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you send her to certain programs. To me, I think

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<v Speaker 4>she dealing with mental health. I don't think you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't say that because, honey, that's because it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Because health everything is not.

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<v Speaker 4>But the thing is, if you just decide that you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna call, say somebody kidnap you, like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see somebody who's a solid mind saying no

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<v Speaker 2>shit like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone made the point that the reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Why she may be the way that she is is

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<v Speaker 3>just being spoiled, you know, just plain old being spoiled.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not going to disagree. I'm not gonna disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I do know is that even privilege can

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<v Speaker 3>cause you to have mental health challenges that need to

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<v Speaker 3>be addressed. Privilege can do that to you because you

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<v Speaker 3>can be you can really be so caught up.

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<v Speaker 1>In needing to win, or needing.

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<v Speaker 3>To be liked or whatever, or feeling like you haven't

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<v Speaker 3>been liked, you haven't been treated properly. So even though

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<v Speaker 3>you have money, you don't have status, or you don't

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<v Speaker 3>you ain't cool, or whatever the case may be, to

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<v Speaker 3>the point where your mind tells you that the way

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<v Speaker 3>to get attention, attention seeking is absolutely something in the

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<v Speaker 3>mind that needs to be dress because somewhere, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>whole something is telling you that you are not enough,

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<v Speaker 3>even though you may have privilege. So, you know, perhaps,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't even want to get into the argument

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<v Speaker 3>of whether or not she has mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying different from you.

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<v Speaker 3>You're saying you don't think you've been to jail, and

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<v Speaker 3>you sat in prison for a long period of time,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know that prison is not the only recourse to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, you can speak.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's definitely it's not the only recourse to

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<v Speaker 4>just to criminal activity, especially when it doesn't involve violence,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't involve malice, It doesn't involve malice.

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<v Speaker 1>It does. She did do something that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it was made because if you

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<v Speaker 4>saying malice, the malice was on her own.

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<v Speaker 2>She was looking for a level of attention, right, she didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>She never It wasn't like she gave she pointed somebody

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<v Speaker 4>out and said this person abducted her. Right, It's not

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<v Speaker 4>like she didn't do any of those things. Those are

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<v Speaker 4>things that we assume she never even said. And when

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<v Speaker 4>she came home she said that she didn't even know

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<v Speaker 4>what it looked like, and then she ultimately just admitted

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<v Speaker 4>that she lied. You know, I think she she bit

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<v Speaker 4>off more than she chew. I think she was trying

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<v Speaker 4>to get her boyfriend to care about her. Whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 4>it's stupid nobody and she needed to be held accountable.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think a year in jail is obsessive. I

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<v Speaker 4>just I just don't see where a year in jail

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<v Speaker 4>helps her do anything, and I just don't wish. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it just it traumatizes her more.

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<v Speaker 3>And I appreciate your sensitivity for her. You said it

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<v Speaker 3>traumatizes her more. Most people do not care about whether

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<v Speaker 3>or not it traumatizes her more because she caused trauma

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<v Speaker 3>on others.

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<v Speaker 5>So trying to trying to compare the it's not one

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<v Speaker 5>thing is this when you say you cause trauma on others.

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<v Speaker 4>These are civilians who looked at her life and decided

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<v Speaker 4>that they felt a way about it, right. These are

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<v Speaker 4>people that were watching and seeing on social media that

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<v Speaker 4>felt the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think any one of her family members will say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>she needs to go to jail. The people who directly

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<v Speaker 4>that were impacted, the people who who felt the worst

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<v Speaker 4>of it, the people who couldn't sleep and was trying

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<v Speaker 4>to go. I don't think any one of them will say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, I think they are real victims, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that they will say, yo, I want

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<v Speaker 4>her to go to jail for a year, So we

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<v Speaker 4>know that though they so I'm saying I might, but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I don't believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't there's no way that a family member mindset

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<v Speaker 4>did that. I'd be like, nah, she needs to go

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<v Speaker 4>to jail for a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Well no, but it's not just the family member of hers,

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<v Speaker 3>of course not but the mother who and I forget

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<v Speaker 3>her daughter's name. God blessed me for forgetting her name.

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<v Speaker 3>But the mother who was out there day and night

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<v Speaker 3>for her and with her family whose daughter died, the

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<v Speaker 3>daughter was abducted and found dead, and she was out

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<v Speaker 3>there and I and heard from her. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what she feels, but it would be it would not

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<v Speaker 3>be a far fetched for her to say, after I thought,

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 3>I was out here fighting for you to come back,

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<v Speaker 3>believing that if I could save you, at least it with.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel a little bit of the whole of my own daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>And you put me through all of that, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you should serve time. I'm saying, you and I are

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<v Speaker 3>both agreed. Let me just spend my point and then

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<v Speaker 3>you go. You and I both agree, and we I

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<v Speaker 3>know that prison we want.

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<v Speaker 1>We are abolitionists.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't even want there to be prisons at all

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 3>that exists.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still I.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess I'm not one hundred percent of abolitionist yet, because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still at the point of if you rape children.

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Or if you murder people, murder you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Children specifically children, then I don't I need you to

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<v Speaker 3>be somewhere. And if you're a white supremacist who is

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Speaker 3>out here shooting people at the Times supermarket, I need

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 3>you to be locked away, right. So I do believe

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 3>in it from that perspective, But I am not a

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 3>person who believes that prison should be for somebody who stole.

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Something or fake the kidnapping or whatever. I get that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying for the purpose of this situation, understanding that

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<v Speaker 3>the system is what it is and we live within

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 3>it unfortunately. And I'm going after you finish saying if

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:31.719
<v Speaker 3>she's in prison, if she has to go to prison

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<v Speaker 3>for a year, which it won't be a year, or

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<v Speaker 3>if she has house to rest, that's fine with me.

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>She did something wrong, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Wrong, It hurt people, folks were invested, and it's terrible.

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 3>And I understand people who don't have the sensitivity that

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 3>you are speaking of right now, for this young lady,

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 3>I get it well.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, is this right? Because there's so many different.

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<v Speaker 4>Things, like like I think women who foresee accused men

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 4>of battering and rape should be charged. Battery or rape

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 4>should be charged. There's no charge. They just dismissed it.

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh it was you did wrong.

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Like so that's not one hundred percent true.

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 3>It is not overwhelmingly the case that women who lie

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 3>get charged. But there are women who have been charged

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:28.719
<v Speaker 3>and convicted of a crime. I don't know if they

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 3>actually went to prison.

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 4>I have yet to hear of a woman went to

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<v Speaker 4>prison for law I've never heard.

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I ever and I'm gonna look it up.

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I am lying to law enforcement in general is

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 3>a crime surgery if and there are people who have

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 3>been charged with lying to law enforcement. However, to your point,

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<v Speaker 3>it is not overwhelmingly the case, and so it is

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<v Speaker 3>very much so an inequity if you are unequal situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so that's what I'm saying, Like if we ain't

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<v Speaker 4>if that, because that that damnage is a person's life,

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 4>a person's reputation for the rest of their life. Men

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 4>got even when even after you say you was lying

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 4>or you you you you get found line. Men gotta

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 4>live with a stigma. So, like I think, if we're

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 4>gonna if we're gonna start advocating for people to go

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 4>to jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are people that need to go to jail, not.

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 4>A woman who and her family trying to get some

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.479
<v Speaker 4>attention from her family. You know that it isn't falsely

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 4>accusing any individual that ain't got nobody if somebody had

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 4>got locked up, if she has said this person did.

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 3>This to me and did try to say the orange

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 3>taired man.

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she tried to create us. What the thing is?

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 4>Ultimately she was never identified.

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Of course we're not. The problem is it's just like.

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Because what if they would have started arresting orange taired

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 3>men with the woman in the car just while you know,

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 3>trying But you don't.

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Know how many people hold over?

0:29:58.320 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 2>How many What.

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 3>About the police officers the time that it took for

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 3>them to sit down and try to run orange hair men.

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:09.479
<v Speaker 4>That's been in the money they get for free police officers. Man, Please,

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 4>they all here getting test place.

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 3>But you're saying, but I still I still feel like

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 3>I get the point of her having to receive some

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 3>measure of constantly for our actions. What I'm saying is

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 3>that to me is cool. And people said, well we

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 3>can we can do both things at once. We could

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 3>be outraged about both things at once, and I'm saying that, yeah,

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 3>that's a wonderful statement, it's a great snap back. But

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 3>the problem is that only one side of those is

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 3>really working. So you're outraged even though you're saying you

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 3>could be outraged about two things at once a lot,

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 3>only one side is working well, which is the outrage

0:30:56.360 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 3>that you have for things like the Carly Russell and

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 3>the accountability of black and brown people for anything we do,

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 3>any action that we make, from bubblegum stealing all the

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 3>way to whatever other murders and everything else. So you know,

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 3>it's only working on one side for the most part.

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 3>So I just want to make sure that people understand

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 3>that what I'm raising is not a point about what

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 3>you can and cannot be outraged about and how you

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 3>should and should not feel. I'm talking about this system

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 3>and for us to recognize that oftentimes we got a

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 3>lot of smoke for our own people and we don't

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 3>necessarily have the same level of venom and anger.

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>We always want to find some.

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Excuse about why, Just like right now, I posted about

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Steve Perkins being killed by the police, right and some

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 3>person is in my comments like, well, tell the whole story.

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 3>He was behind on his payments, but it wasn't in

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.479
<v Speaker 3>repos status. And the fact and then you know he

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.239
<v Speaker 3>came out with the gun, this and that and the

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 3>third wasn't in repost status. Is a fall sentence boom.

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 3>It was not in repost status. So do you know

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 3>what was supposed to happen at the point that it

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 3>wasn't in repost status. The cop was supposed to take

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 3>his ass to the front door and knock on it

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 3>and say, hello, sir, hello human being, Hello person with

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 3>some civil fucking rights, Can I ask you a question

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 3>about what's going on here?

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>That's what was supposed to happen.

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 4>That's right, that I mean, they wasn't supposed to ambush

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 4>a man to sit in the bushes and wave for

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.959
<v Speaker 4>him to come out, already knowing he's angry at the person,

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 4>because they already got the call from the person and

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 4>they said he waved the gun or whatever. So you

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 4>anticipated you just lwered him into a trap. You didn't

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 4>come as you know, it's just very strange.

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 3>What are you talking about? So with so it's right.

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 3>So then to get back to the point, you could

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 3>come over here and make the excuse and the reason

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 3>for why, well, it's George Floyd, it was this, and

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 3>so and so was dad and Brianna's boyfriend was in

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 3>the house. And then shanmquela might have did this, and this,

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 3>that and the third. But I'm telling you that let

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 3>you commit one crime, you do one thing wrong, they

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 3>will put your ass up under the jail.

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>But if somebody murders you, blows you.

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Up, put eight bullets in your body or whatever, we're

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna have to fight because it's more difficult and it

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 3>takes longer to decipher, and it's more details, and it's this,

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 3>that and the third. And meanwhile, you don't have no

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 3>freaking rights, no rights. But I bet you one thing,

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 3>don't you inconvenience no white people and make them have

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 3>to go do paperwork and shit for you missing and

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 3>they wasting and you they wasting their time.

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>On you because you going to jail, in jail, You

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>going to jail, and.

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna pay twenty five thousand dollars a restitution.

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 3>And we're gonna make sure of it. But over here,

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 3>the inconvenience of the whole community having to watch people

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 3>being shot dead, having to see all the blood that

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 3>is spilled on the streets of this America with black people.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, it's complicated, very.

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 4>Strange, very complicated. We can talk about this all day

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 4>because this is the reality. But we have our guests

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 4>that it's about.

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 2>To show up. You know.

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 4>Friend, friend of the family is one of my guys.

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.800
<v Speaker 4>Man love him to death. I can't wait to interview

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 4>to death. I love him to life, my fault. I

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 4>love him to life. He's one of the best photographers

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 4>hip hop photographers that you will ever meet.

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 2>He's a connector.

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 3>He's so much more than a noteworthy award winning photographer.

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 3>I would, you know more so give him the title

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 3>of documentarian, someone who is capturing so many of our moments.

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean when you think back to the struggles, and

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 3>not just the struggles, but the moments, the historic moments

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:17.879
<v Speaker 3>of a previous time. Often when we're living through it,

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 3>we don't see the value and or understand the importance

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 3>of the story that will be told to our children

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 3>and what will be the historic value of our lives.

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Just everything we did, the fashion, the entertainment, the moments

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 3>that the rooms that we were in, when we were friends,

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 3>when we were not Who.

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Was together, who wasn't together?

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:44.320
<v Speaker 3>You know when we were fighting for the rights of

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 3>our people, I mean all those things.

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 1>At one point or another, it will become the.

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Only thing left right to tell the stories to our children.

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.240
<v Speaker 3>And so I think that all the flowers that Johnny

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Nunez has been receiving as of shout out to our

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 3>sister Belisia Butterfield Jones for being one of those to

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 3>really ensure that Johnny receives as flowers has really been fitting.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much. That means a lot to me. Miko.

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 7>I really feel like, you know, it's an honor to

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 7>be a witness to what you've not only achieved but

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 7>will continue to achieve for the cause of not only

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 7>our race, but our culture. And you guys are the

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 7>hidden figures that give a voice to the voiceless. My

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 7>camera lends an eye to those atrocities and beautiful moments,

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 7>you know. So I'm just excited that I was able

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:54.280
<v Speaker 7>to be invited to be, you know, able to capture

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 7>a moment and emotion suspended in time for eternity.

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 4>Yes, man, like shout out to you, Johnny Man. I

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 4>always tell you, man, how much I love you and

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 4>I love what you do. You always did with that

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:10.720
<v Speaker 4>camera flashing. You know, I tell a story all the time.

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 4>How my first video, I mean photo shoot when I

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 4>was signing death g and violated that Johnny did it

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 4>in front of the legendary tunnel, like nobody even knows.

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 4>Like I think about that all the time, and just

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 4>to see that both of us are here, you know,

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 4>thirty years later, damn there, you know, after after all

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 4>of that, I just want to know, like, Johnny, what

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 4>made you start doing photos and what was the inspiration?

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 7>In my other you know, interviews, I was going to

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 7>school for radiation therapy on college and I don't want

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 7>to get anybody. I see the name of the hospital.

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 7>I don't get nobody in trouble. But there was a

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 7>hospital that was known for racism. And just as I

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 7>was getting ready to graduate in three months as a

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 7>radiation therapy technician. For those on the show that don't know,

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 7>I was thinking I was entering a program to take

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 7>X rays of people with broken arms and broken legs.

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 7>I wound up entering a program to tweet people with cancer.

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 7>But in my application, out of four hundred and twenty interviews,

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 7>I was one of the lucky twenty two that they

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 7>chose because at the time, I fed the homeless, I

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 7>worked and donated my time to a lot of organizations

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 7>to help children. I was adopting myself and foster care,

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 7>so I wanted to, like not wanting to, but always

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 7>had it in my DNA to give back. So I

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 7>chose radiation therapy on Collogy. I started it, go through

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 7>with it, and I got kicked out of the program Sadly.

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 7>Three months before graduating, I witnessed an atrocious racist attack

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 7>and I went back to my roommate who I was

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 7>staying at his house with his wife, and I told

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 7>them what I witnessed, and I couldn't believe my eyes.

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 7>They said, Johnny, you do what's in your heart. I'm like, well,

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.840
<v Speaker 7>what should I do? They said, tell the professors what

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 7>you saw, And I did, and the next thing I know,

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 7>I went to North Show University Hospital to the department

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:28.280
<v Speaker 7>and they came up to me, motherfucker, nigger, you spick bastard.

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 7>My husband's a police officer and he'll shoot you in

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.879
<v Speaker 7>the fucking face. That's what they told me. I could

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 7>curse on this show.

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 6>I was mortified.

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 7>And my professor said, you're Johnny for us to make

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 7>a complaint about this radiation therapy on college department, you

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 7>have to produce some kind of evidence. We can't just speculate,

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 7>and you have to have hard evidence. So I told

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 7>my professors go to Rose, who was an orderly that

0:39:55.440 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 7>would bring the patients to the treatment center of the

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 7>department for cancer treatment. And one time she went to

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 7>go take a lunch break and I said, whoa, you know,

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 7>I can't leave, and she's like, well, I'm going to

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:12.360
<v Speaker 7>my lunch break, I'm very tired.

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 6>When I come back out, I'll bring more patients.

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 7>These technicians wanted to take a break longer, and that's

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 7>why they wanted to take her out of her own

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 7>time to accommodate themselves. So when she refused, they said,

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 7>you know, you know, Rosa, if the massill catch you,

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.360
<v Speaker 7>he gonna give you a good whooper and they started

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 7>to chuck and drive dancing, and she said, I'm gonna

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.320
<v Speaker 7>report you. So that was my evidence because the professors

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 7>went and told her, well, unfortunately, my son, that's what

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 7>started it. I was immediately kicked out.

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 6>Of the program. An accident occurred.

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:50.760
<v Speaker 7>They blamed it on me, and here I am thinking,

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna be a radiation therapist.

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 6>Now I'm living homeless in my masa three two three.

0:40:56.640 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 7>The apartment that I had, the landlord wanted to rent

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 7>it to another senate for more money, so I lost that.

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 7>I asked if I could take their room. They said

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.720
<v Speaker 7>somebody else was going to take that for more money.

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 7>So I packed my stuff up and embarrassed, and I

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 7>put my stuff in storage. Because my family adopted me,

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 7>the family that adopted me raised me to be a

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 7>certain way, and I could not return back to my

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 7>dad with nothing or to tell him and thrown out

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 7>as a program.

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:27.360
<v Speaker 6>So that wasn't an option.

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 7>So I went back to delivering pizza and chicken and

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 7>being a home healthy for elderly people. The girl I

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 7>was dating what I was unmarried. I wound up telling them, hey,

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 7>I got kicked out. I got kicked out of the program,

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 7>but don't worry. I'm gonna figure this out. She was like, Janny,

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 7>I met somebody at Sonybrook University, and I've been meaning

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 7>to tell you.

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 6>I think it's time we just become friends.

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 7>So I lost my girl, I lost my apartment, I

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 7>lost my career that I thought, and I resorted back

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 7>to what I did to get through college, which was

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 7>deliver a pizza pizza hut.

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 6>So I was out and this is how I became

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 6>a photographer.

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 7>As I went to deliver one delivery an individual who

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 7>sold street pharmaceuticals. I got to his beautiful house and

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 7>he said, who knows, Wait, mane, ain't you in medicine.

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 7>I'm like, yeah, but here's your pizza. He's like, oh,

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.320
<v Speaker 7>you're probably doing this to finish paying off your medical

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 7>loans and stuff like that. Right, I'm like, correct, he said,

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 7>reach down in my pocket, and I'm like what, He's like,

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 7>reach in my pocket.

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I can't.

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 7>I got the pizza, got soda, and I pulled out

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 7>a knot of hundreds. I said, so and so I

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.840
<v Speaker 7>just started my shift. I don't have change. He goes,

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 7>just peel wanted them out. Peel one of them out,

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 7>filled out one hundred dollars bill. This is like nineteen

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 7>ninety six.

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 6>You know. He's like, keep that. I'm like, keep that.

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:56.240
<v Speaker 6>You sure? He's like, go ahead, stop playing. Sorry. I left,

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 6>and when I got to my car or should I

0:42:58.239 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 6>say my.

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 7>Living room, started to punk the horn and disrelief that

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:07.799
<v Speaker 7>in a manner of one complaint on racism. I'm now

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 7>kicked out of the program and now have to live

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:16.400
<v Speaker 7>in the car. So myke's girlfriend's mother still loved me

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 7>so much. A lot of mix girlfriend's moms. I was

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 7>the best ex girlfriend's son in law to be. And

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 7>the next day after that delivery, my manager called and said, Johnny,

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 7>I don't know what you did. You gotta come here

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.239
<v Speaker 7>right now to the pizza side. I said, it's not

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 7>my day to work. There's a guy inside the shop.

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 7>Just went back outside. He said he's not leaving until

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 7>he speaks with you. And by the way, when you

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.320
<v Speaker 7>come to the pizza hut, not come to the front,

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 7>come through the back. I'm driving through the pizza hut

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 7>area and I see nothing.

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 6>But would look like a car show.

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:03.479
<v Speaker 7>Porsches, convertible, BMW's bens. It looked literally like a car show.

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.399
<v Speaker 7>By the time I came to the back, I said

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 7>to my general manager Tony, what's going on? That dude

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 7>right there he wants you to he want to talk

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 7>to He won't leave me, and he told me to

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 7>call you. So I don't know what you did. Bro,

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 7>you better go out there and take care of it.

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 7>I go outside and it's same homeboy. I'll call him Defer.

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, Yo, d what's going on. He's like, Yo,

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:29.280
<v Speaker 6>Johnny Man heard what happened?

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Bro?

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 7>I said hey. He's like, I want you to come

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 7>work for me. I said, you opening up a pizza

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 7>rea too. He's like, no, I want you to come

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 7>help selld me. That help comes out so that white girl,

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 7>I'm my white girl. It was work, nigga. I'm like,

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 7>wait a minute, Danny, if you're saying what I think

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 7>you're saying, I changed my life. Now it's about pizza

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.800
<v Speaker 7>and I'm not doing medicine no more. And I definitely

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.720
<v Speaker 7>can't play with blood money. He goes, he ain't fucking

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 7>play money. I need you, Jay, because I remember in

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:04.800
<v Speaker 7>high school and in junior high school, he was a

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.959
<v Speaker 7>quick connected You was always networking. He was introducing people

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.240
<v Speaker 7>to people. I need that on my team. I said, WHOA,

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, Dan. He goes, give me your hand.

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 7>I held out my hand and he put paper in

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 7>my hand and then he rolled my hand into a

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 7>fist and he squeezed it. He said, Johnny, if you

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 7>decide you don't want to work for me, keep that.

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.919
<v Speaker 7>It doesn't matter. But if you decide that you want

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 7>to work for me, just plenty more where that came from.

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 7>And then he balanced. I couldn't wait to see what

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.399
<v Speaker 7>was in my hand, and it was a thousand dollars

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 7>in cash. That time, my ex girlfriend's mom called me

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 7>and said, Johnny, I made your favorite dish, Haitian turkey

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 7>wings and rice and beans.

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, oh boy, I'm coming over, you know. And

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 6>I went over there.

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 7>To get the food. And my ex girlfriend was away

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.319
<v Speaker 7>in college. I go over there and she converted one

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 7>of the rooms into a makeshift. Ever, she said, Johnny

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 7>still got closed from when he was dating my daughter.

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 7>I don't know what you're going through, but tonight this

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 7>is your room. You know where the shower is at

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 7>and oh, by the way, here's your favorite dish. So

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:14.360
<v Speaker 7>when she closed the door, I began to cry. You know,

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:16.840
<v Speaker 7>I'm a man, I ain't you know. I started crying,

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 7>and I said, God, I don't know what's going on.

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 7>You have me about to be in the medical world,

0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 7>and then now you lowered me now to where I'm

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 7>living in my car. Now I'm getting offered this kind

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 7>of a business lane. All I wanted to do is

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 7>help people. I wanted to be. I wanted to be

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.320
<v Speaker 7>a priest too. I wanted to join the Peace Corps.

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 7>I wanted to go to Africa and built hunts and houses.

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 7>I was all about that, But now I want to

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 7>murder some people. Murder was never on my mind. I

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:51.319
<v Speaker 7>wanted to literally kill certain people, and on top of that,

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 7>get into a lane of destruction with drug dealing.

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 6>And I said, God, if you.

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 7>Don't give me an when I wake up tomorrow morning,

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna go sell drugs and I'm gonna get my

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 7>vengeance in Jesus's name.

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 6>That's how down I was.

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 7>That I was angry at God, and I could not

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 7>believe where I was. I was embarrassed. I could not

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 7>understand what was going on. The next morning, you guys

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 7>don't have to believe me. I woke up in the

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 7>morning and I saw a camera. It was in the air,

0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:30.359
<v Speaker 7>and I rubbed my eyes to me like this, man,

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 7>I'm really tired.

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 6>I looking there.

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 7>It was like a spaceship or a helicopter hovering and

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:39.000
<v Speaker 7>I was like, for my.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 6>Hands and grab it. I went.

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 7>I went to grab a camera and my hands went

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 7>through the camera and it dissolved, and I said me,

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 7>I am really tired, maybe because I've been sleeping in

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:54.280
<v Speaker 7>that car. Who and then boom it popped up again,

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 7>and I said, okay, God, no more jokes.

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:01.800
<v Speaker 6>I asked for an idea, and I see a camera.

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 7>God, if this is what you want me to become

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 7>a photographer, give me one more sign, and I swear

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.839
<v Speaker 7>I won't bother you for a while. Just give me

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 7>one more sign. In my faith, they call it the

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 7>Holy Spirit. And out of nowhere, a supernatural energy entered

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 7>my body and I went to some of my friend's

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:24.399
<v Speaker 7>houses where I know we took showers, and I told

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 7>them as they were playing Mortal Kombat, Yo, fellas, I

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 7>know what I'm gonna be. And they were like, Johnny,

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:34.280
<v Speaker 7>what are you gonna be? I said, i'mna be a photographer?

0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:37.800
<v Speaker 7>And as they were playing Mortal Kombat. I still remember

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.760
<v Speaker 7>my boy Pat, another Asian brother, he was like, Johnny,

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 7>you live in a car, you got kicked out of

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:47.799
<v Speaker 7>a medical radiation therapy program, and you come over our

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 7>place to eat off food or our refrigerator and not

0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 7>replace it and take showers in our bathroom. What makes

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:56.960
<v Speaker 7>you think you're gonna be a photographer who told you

0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 7>you're gonna be a photographer.

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:02.960
<v Speaker 6>I said, God did? He said what I said? God did?

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 7>Okay, now you're a bugging Johnny did the Readia she

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 7>never hit your head? I said, no pact, Johnny. You

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 7>don't even own a camera. Bro, you're living in the

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 7>call what money? I said, I don't know how I'm

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 7>gonna do it, but I'm gonna do it. So long

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 7>story short. There was a book I was reading called

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 7>Unlimited Power like Anthony Robbins that was actually given in

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 7>me by a group of my friends who we got

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 7>into a very racial political argument when I got kicked

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.720
<v Speaker 7>out of that medical program. Not only were they racists,

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 7>I was warned by a white woman how racist they

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 7>were and how they were quick.

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:39.760
<v Speaker 6>To kick out people of color.

0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 7>And I just thought, I'm such a people person, but

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 7>they're gonna love me until I saw what they did

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 7>to this poor black woman. They actually physically harmed her,

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 7>and I refused to help them transport her body into

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:57.880
<v Speaker 7>a different position unless someone aided her head, because she

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.879
<v Speaker 7>had just had a tracheotomy and when she's freemed with pain,

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:03.880
<v Speaker 7>she was making sound that sounded like this, like a

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 7>and these white technicians all started laughing, cracking up in

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 7>her presence. There was a man who had age just

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 7>like her, but they gave him so much respect. They

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 7>held him, they protected him, They gave a conversation with

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 7>this black woman.

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:22.120
<v Speaker 6>They refused to talk to her.

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 7>They wore face mask, they wore gloves, so that in

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 7>humane feeling of feeling like.

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:30.879
<v Speaker 6>You're not there, you're trash, that's what they did to her.

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 7>So that's why I told them that I wasn't going

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:36.839
<v Speaker 7>to help transport her body until someone supported her head.

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 7>By that, by the time I got out of the

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 7>room to the console to deliver the radiation, these same

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 7>group of people were cursing me out racially and telling

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:48.240
<v Speaker 7>me you're finished.

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:50.880
<v Speaker 6>And that's when I went in age complaints.

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 7>But that was the greatest, greatest blessing to get kicked

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 7>out of a medical racist school program. Why because I

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:02.840
<v Speaker 7>wouldn't have had this opportunity to complain to God and

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 7>then God direct me. So when I was reading that

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 7>book Unlimited Power, it said in one chapter, whatever you're

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 7>doing right now, stop what you're doing and see where

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 7>you want to be in three years. So of course

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 7>I'm working this sweat job it is horrible factory. I'm

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 7>still living in a car, and I'm illegally reading a

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 7>book I'm supposed to be working. I then turned the

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:26.760
<v Speaker 7>page and said, stop what you're doing. If you didn't

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:28.759
<v Speaker 7>stop and see what you're doing in like the next

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:31.720
<v Speaker 7>three to five years, go back to the page before

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:36.080
<v Speaker 7>and look and visualize where you want to be. So

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.800
<v Speaker 7>I stopped the conveyor belt. I heard the general manager

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 7>of the building screaming, who stopped the fucking bell? So

0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 7>I looked at this wall, y'all don't have to believe me,

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:49.839
<v Speaker 7>and I saw myself shooting Jay Z, shooting Sean Combs,

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:54.280
<v Speaker 7>shooting nail Me Campbell, being in the private jet traveling

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:59.680
<v Speaker 7>the world, doing all kinds of cool shit, and being

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 7>a bore us and meeting Russell Simmons, all these kind

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 7>of like yeah, right.

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 6>And then the manager came up.

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:09.280
<v Speaker 7>To me said, if you ever fucking pressed that conveyor belt,

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 7>I will kick your ass and I will personally kick

0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 7>you out of this factory. Why the fuck did you

0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:17.680
<v Speaker 7>stop the machine? I said, I thought I saw something,

0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:20.360
<v Speaker 7>so I wanted to stop it. Here was turner machine

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:23.359
<v Speaker 7>back home. So the moral of the story is by

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 7>the end of nineteen ninety seven, I would have made

0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:29.320
<v Speaker 7>ninety eight thousand dollars. No longer living in the car.

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 7>I wind up being a personal photographer to Jay Z,

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:37.720
<v Speaker 7>personal photographer to Sean Colmes Titty, personal photographer to NAS,

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 7>personal photographer to Russell Simmons, eventually the personal photographer Michael Jordan,

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:44.919
<v Speaker 7>personal photographer Lebron James, Michelle.

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 6>Obama, Barack Obama.

0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 7>Obama traveled the world as an ambassador representing the United

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 7>States of America under the Obama administrative administration. Wind up

0:52:55.239 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 7>being the first black Latino Grammy Recording Academy of Photographer,

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:04.920
<v Speaker 7>Music photographer, Now a VMA photographer and an MTV photographer.

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:08.359
<v Speaker 7>I wound up raising money for the Blind. I now

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 7>shoot for Tamika Mallory. I got to shoot the first

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:15.400
<v Speaker 7>cover of my son's Rap Problem. I can go on

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:18.240
<v Speaker 7>for days talking about over Winfree, Gil.

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:20.280
<v Speaker 1>King, Johnny.

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 8>Usually by now we would have cut it to James.

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:30.840
<v Speaker 8>But the way that you tell that story, and the

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:35.520
<v Speaker 8>heart and soul, the pain, the triumph, the when you

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 8>keep saying you don't have to believe me. First of all,

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 8>I've known you twenty years, and I've never known you

0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:45.879
<v Speaker 8>to tell one lie ever in your life, never ever, never,

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:46.439
<v Speaker 8>never never.

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>And I believe you.

0:53:48.480 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I might not have had something to pop up in

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:55.120
<v Speaker 3>the in the sky, but I know what that existential

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:58.520
<v Speaker 3>feeling is that comes over you, that lets you know

0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:03.120
<v Speaker 3>it is something bigger than human nature. Like it's not,

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:06.280
<v Speaker 3>it's something of a life that you you are you,

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 3>You only hope to be able to receive a message

0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 3>from God in that way. And I and it, and

0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 3>it inspires me so much that I want people to

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 3>hear it just like that, like the whole story, you know,

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:20.840
<v Speaker 3>And I want to say that.

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Each Even when I think.

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:28.320
<v Speaker 3>About when you were speaking, the tears in my eyes

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:32.480
<v Speaker 3>began to come, not even for you, but more so

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:36.840
<v Speaker 3>for my son, because I was thinking about seven years

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:40.560
<v Speaker 3>in prison, believing that you were going to be one thing,

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:44.880
<v Speaker 3>going in the door and coming out something totally different,

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 3>and how you could be mad at God, ten white

0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:53.560
<v Speaker 3>men and some other people and instead figuring out what

0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:57.800
<v Speaker 3>could you do to make good of instead of bad

0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:00.400
<v Speaker 3>with whatever has your experiences been.

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:01.800
<v Speaker 1>And I begin to get.

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Emotional because I know that it's not easy to have

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:10.279
<v Speaker 3>dreamed of something your whole life, or believed something your

0:55:10.320 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 3>whole life and then in the blink of an eye

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:16.799
<v Speaker 3>a shift happened, and we're not.

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Always ready for that shift.

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:21.359
<v Speaker 3>So I just wanted to say that I just it's

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:22.879
<v Speaker 3>just it's shit.

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:25.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I do have one question.

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:27.560
<v Speaker 6>Thank you talked.

0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 1>About all of those people.

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Trust must clearly be a thing I have never seen

0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Johnny Newness post or be the center of a gotcha moment.

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:43.719
<v Speaker 3>And I'm one hundred percent sure that you've been in

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:46.600
<v Speaker 3>spaces and places where people got the white stuff still

0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 3>on their.

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Nose and they don't know it's there, and you know they.

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I know you've seen relationships.

0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:56.440
<v Speaker 3>That ain't supposed to be people with people coming from

0:55:56.520 --> 0:56:00.319
<v Speaker 3>places doing things, But you have never ever been in

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 3>a person as far as I know that, Uh, you know,

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 3>meddled in mess.

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:07.240
<v Speaker 1>So talk about trust back.

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Ha TMZ things talking about that trust factor and that

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 3>was that a business decision?

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Or is just you all?

0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 6>Mh.

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 7>You know one thing about me, you know, having the

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:26.920
<v Speaker 7>opportunity to be adopted by a Portican family that didn't

0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:31.680
<v Speaker 7>have much themselves but gave me everything. They were able

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:36.440
<v Speaker 7>to show me the value of of of neighborhoods and respect.

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:39.680
<v Speaker 7>I would go up through neighborhoods in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, where

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 7>I was raised and I was born in Brooklyn, I

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:45.480
<v Speaker 7>would be called nigga, I would be called speck. I

0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:49.320
<v Speaker 7>couldn't walk down certain blocks. I was constantly being chased

0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:52.919
<v Speaker 7>by dogs because certain white men and white women would

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 7>let their dogs loose just to see me run. And

0:56:56.600 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 7>so for the white that lived on my block, I

0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:04.480
<v Speaker 7>try my best to, like, you know, let these motherfuckers

0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:06.359
<v Speaker 7>get away with a lot of shit, you know, But

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:09.239
<v Speaker 7>I just wanted to be cool so that no one

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:14.959
<v Speaker 7>would refuse me being in their circle. You know, be calm, chill,

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 7>you know they're going to crack them jokes. So what

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:19.720
<v Speaker 7>does that have to do with your to your point

0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 7>is that I always know that respecting people and helping them,

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:30.040
<v Speaker 7>whether they're the number one on the top charts or

0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 7>just opening up act, give them the respect. The low

0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:36.400
<v Speaker 7>the lowest level tiers, give them the respect as if

0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:39.440
<v Speaker 7>they was the top tier. And when they do become

0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 7>the top tier, they're going to remember those people that

0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:44.440
<v Speaker 7>came to them to their performance at SOBS.

0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 6>They're going to remember you. Was that at Maria.

0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:49.920
<v Speaker 7>Davis's showcase, one of the photographers showing them when they

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:52.320
<v Speaker 7>didn't even have a label deal or or.

0:57:52.720 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 6>A hit song. So for me, it's actually.

0:57:56.400 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 7>An opportunity where I get your help and I feel

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:05.240
<v Speaker 7>great that I could be apart one brick in that

0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:10.480
<v Speaker 7>home that helped build this artist's career. So to your point,

0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 7>I cannot put anything that would jeopardize them because it

0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:18.080
<v Speaker 7>would only shoot myself in the foot when they do

0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:21.560
<v Speaker 7>blow up, you know, and some people want to get

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:23.960
<v Speaker 7>that fast buck. Catch a picture of two people come

0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:26.400
<v Speaker 7>out of a hotel, catch a picture of a person

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 7>in a car with somebody, or a fight breakout. If

0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 7>I had one thousand dollars every horrific photo, whether it

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:42.160
<v Speaker 7>be with violence, sex, crime, robbery, you name it, I

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 7>probably have at least two to three million dollars on me.

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 7>But the blessing is that I'm not in it to

0:58:49.880 --> 0:58:53.440
<v Speaker 7>lift myself up by just throwing your career. I'm in

0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:58.240
<v Speaker 7>this to raise our babies so that we have knowledge

0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 7>of self, so that our children and their children would

0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:07.160
<v Speaker 7>only sulfer lie upon themselves and their own race, not

0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 7>trying to segregate from the same. We don't need anybody.

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:16.360
<v Speaker 7>We built this country. America is our Ancestress Foundation. They

0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 7>built this for us and we are the descendants of

0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:24.640
<v Speaker 7>a dream of kidnapped Africans and genocided or I don't

0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 7>think that's words that were sacrificed so that we have

0:59:31.200 --> 0:59:33.960
<v Speaker 7>this opportunity to be where we are today.

0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 4>It's called integritive, called and you have a lot of

0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:42.680
<v Speaker 4>and I think that's the reason why you've lasted so long.

0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:44.600
<v Speaker 2>And everyone sees Johnny.

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:47.040
<v Speaker 4>Whenever you see Johnny as a happy moment like you,

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:51.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't care what artists superstar. Every time I see

0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:53.920
<v Speaker 4>you and you get them on camera, they look at you, they're, oh,

0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:54.520
<v Speaker 4>it's Johnny.

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Like you know what I'm saying. It's like it's like cheers,

0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:59.040
<v Speaker 2>you like norm coming to Cheers.

0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:04.160
<v Speaker 4>Man to where you are man, because because you created this,

1:00:04.280 --> 1:00:07.080
<v Speaker 4>you know this atmosphere of trust and and just love

1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:10.120
<v Speaker 4>and you always connecting people like you said that the

1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:13.040
<v Speaker 4>god the guy says, you know that you're connected, and

1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:14.600
<v Speaker 4>you know how to do this. You walk and you're

1:00:14.600 --> 1:00:17.920
<v Speaker 4>not only taking pictures. And if anybody knows that, Johnny

1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:20.600
<v Speaker 4>will put you next to somebody that you never met.

1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:22.040
<v Speaker 2>And like, I want you guys to take a picture.

1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:24.440
<v Speaker 4>When then introduce you to the guy and said, boom,

1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:25.960
<v Speaker 4>this is such and such and it's such, and you

1:00:25.960 --> 1:00:28.080
<v Speaker 4>guys need to me he does this, and he does this,

1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:30.520
<v Speaker 4>and she does this and this, and you know in

1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:32.360
<v Speaker 4>the way that you do it is so effortlessly.

1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:36.200
<v Speaker 2>It's effortless, and it it helps a lot.

1:00:36.080 --> 1:00:38.160
<v Speaker 4>Of artists, right, new people because a lot of people

1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:41.240
<v Speaker 4>walk into spaces and they're around big artists, you know,

1:00:41.280 --> 1:00:43.720
<v Speaker 4>and they don't really know these artists, but you know them,

1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:46.240
<v Speaker 4>so you know that the connection needs to be made.

1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:48.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, they wanted they need to be comfortable in

1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:49.040
<v Speaker 2>certain spaces.

1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:52.040
<v Speaker 4>And I watch you navigat and do that so well, man,

1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:56.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's amazing. It's a tribute to the person

1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:59.640
<v Speaker 4>you are. But I never knew that you were adopted.

1:01:00.320 --> 1:01:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:05.920
<v Speaker 7>So I'm Black, Chinese and Venezuelan from the island of Trinidad.

1:01:06.960 --> 1:01:11.120
<v Speaker 7>But I was blessed enough to go find my biological

1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:15.520
<v Speaker 7>family and I met my real family and and I

1:01:15.640 --> 1:01:19.360
<v Speaker 7>realized why God blessed me with my adoptive family. No

1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:23.920
<v Speaker 7>pun intended, but I just thank God that, you know,

1:01:24.400 --> 1:01:25.200
<v Speaker 7>he brought.

1:01:24.960 --> 1:01:27.720
<v Speaker 6>Me into this remarkable family that.

1:01:29.560 --> 1:01:31.200
<v Speaker 7>If I had to do it over again, I would

1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:34.800
<v Speaker 7>not change the thing because I had a remarkable upbringing

1:01:35.280 --> 1:01:37.360
<v Speaker 7>of a family that took me under their wing as

1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:41.360
<v Speaker 7>if I was their own, and you know, raised me

1:01:41.480 --> 1:01:45.960
<v Speaker 7>to be with these values. Help people, love everyone, do

1:01:46.000 --> 1:01:48.920
<v Speaker 7>your best to help people, you know, and don't get

1:01:48.960 --> 1:01:53.800
<v Speaker 7>it twisted. I'm very, very radically militant with black and

1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:57.840
<v Speaker 7>land history. I'm very much about a matter of factness.

1:01:58.120 --> 1:01:58.360
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1:01:58.880 --> 1:02:01.680
<v Speaker 7>I just used my lens in a way that could

1:02:01.760 --> 1:02:05.560
<v Speaker 7>help lift and push the narrative of our culture through

1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:06.920
<v Speaker 7>the lens, you know.

1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:10.880
<v Speaker 3>And I would say, I'm one of those people that

1:02:10.960 --> 1:02:15.000
<v Speaker 3>when I started, I remember you, Rachel nord Link invited

1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:20.240
<v Speaker 3>you to the first event where I became executive director

1:02:20.280 --> 1:02:23.960
<v Speaker 3>of National Action Network and Victoria what's the name Victoria

1:02:24.040 --> 1:02:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Web and Carell God bless his soul. They were the

1:02:28.360 --> 1:02:31.600
<v Speaker 3>co hosts for the event. It was my first little

1:02:31.680 --> 1:02:35.600
<v Speaker 3>like celebrity thing. And I mean this is years ago now,

1:02:35.960 --> 1:02:41.240
<v Speaker 3>and you're a photographer, and ever since then, you've always

1:02:41.280 --> 1:02:43.600
<v Speaker 3>done exactly what my son says, depending on you know,

1:02:43.640 --> 1:02:45.640
<v Speaker 3>whatever room. You know, I'm not the person that's going

1:02:45.680 --> 1:02:47.720
<v Speaker 3>to be asking people for pictures and you're like, no.

1:02:47.560 --> 1:02:49.600
<v Speaker 1>No, no, you gotta you know, Tamika Mallory.

1:02:49.960 --> 1:02:52.760
<v Speaker 3>You know while you're taking pictures, you've always done that

1:02:52.840 --> 1:02:55.080
<v Speaker 3>and you're one hundred percent right. You've been there with

1:02:55.160 --> 1:02:58.880
<v Speaker 3>me from in someone else's shadows all the way to

1:02:59.080 --> 1:03:02.600
<v Speaker 3>standing on my own. So I say name for that,

1:03:02.680 --> 1:03:06.440
<v Speaker 3>but I will say my last thing. If you have

1:03:06.800 --> 1:03:11.919
<v Speaker 3>a very no chill way of taking pictures. So if

1:03:11.920 --> 1:03:15.280
<v Speaker 3>you're not ready when Johnny snaps the camera, that's just

1:03:15.360 --> 1:03:16.040
<v Speaker 3>your problem.

1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Johnny's in the room. You gotta be ready when he

1:03:19.480 --> 1:03:22.720
<v Speaker 1>say yo, yo yo, you gotta be ready. So what

1:03:22.920 --> 1:03:23.320
<v Speaker 1>is that?

1:03:23.680 --> 1:03:26.240
<v Speaker 3>Because I know people tell you that all the time,

1:03:26.280 --> 1:03:29.000
<v Speaker 3>like Johnny, wait a minute, give me a minute. But

1:03:29.040 --> 1:03:32.600
<v Speaker 3>your are you trying to get people in their natural habitat?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it just rushing or do you want people to prepare?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what is the mindset behind how quick you move.

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<v Speaker 7>In a room? So, you know, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 7>I was never diagnosed with add you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 7>But I've always been like make the moves now. My

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<v Speaker 7>wife actually sometimes tells me, yeah, you need to chill, man.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what I'm saying. You gotta you like to

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<v Speaker 7>you like to kick your gys and questions later when

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<v Speaker 7>you should be thinking about what you want to do first.

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<v Speaker 6>That does get me in trouble sometimes.

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<v Speaker 7>But to answer your question, I like to actually say

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<v Speaker 7>this quote and maybe it'll stick to you both. And

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<v Speaker 7>that is history repeats itself. Opportunity does not. You have

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<v Speaker 7>to be ready. And I say all that to say

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<v Speaker 7>that when I'm shooting a photographer, when they sell photos

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<v Speaker 7>or when they show their work, they're actually not showing

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<v Speaker 7>the subject in the photo. I mean, technically you are

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<v Speaker 7>if I shoot you guys with jay Z inside the

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<v Speaker 7>forty forty private room like we did for the eleventh

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<v Speaker 7>anniversary of the forty forty, which is not there no more.

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<v Speaker 7>It's being relocated. I believe that moment is in all

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<v Speaker 7>your glory, right, But it's also the opportunity for the

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<v Speaker 7>photographer to show the viewer what they see. So like

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<v Speaker 7>a painter with its paint brush and it's different colors

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<v Speaker 7>and it's different palettes, different color than the palette, and

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<v Speaker 7>it's in the canvas and the strokes of their their

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<v Speaker 7>their their.

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<v Speaker 6>Paint brush.

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<v Speaker 7>Or an artist with his words written on his paper

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<v Speaker 7>from his pen making a song, or of someone in

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<v Speaker 7>politics or in social equality, that's writing and preparing a

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<v Speaker 7>speech so that they can get the word out. That's

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<v Speaker 7>the same caliber of energy that the photographer wishes to

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<v Speaker 7>show the people that look at his photos. It's not

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<v Speaker 7>what's in the photo, it's what they see. And they

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<v Speaker 7>want you to see what they see. So when I'm

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<v Speaker 7>shooting me cute, Oh you're always I would never want

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<v Speaker 7>to put you in a bad light. You know, you

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<v Speaker 7>you bless, you know you're hot. You know, I'm just

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<v Speaker 7>keeping them one hundred. So yeah, So for me, I

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<v Speaker 7>just like, there's no time to get ready ready now

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<v Speaker 7>right here? You know what to get ready. There's four

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<v Speaker 7>or five other photo set opportunities. Gail King just gave Oprah.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, there's there's Michael Jordan laughing with whole like

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<v Speaker 7>and and this firstone right here wants me to say,

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<v Speaker 7>hold on, hold on, we get ready.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you get ready.

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<v Speaker 2>We're about to let you go, Johnny.

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<v Speaker 4>But before you go, right, I just want to give

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<v Speaker 4>you your flowers because you deserve them.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you you you want the great one of.

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<v Speaker 4>The greatest who've ever done it? Man Like, you talk

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<v Speaker 4>about the people you you've worked with, and then I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen the pictures that you've taken and this pictures you've

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<v Speaker 4>taken of us, like you just talked about that picture

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<v Speaker 4>with Hope, like I got that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I got it blown up in my room right now, Sean.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean came over. Yep, you know what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's an amazing picture.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you, you've just been doing this so long, and

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<v Speaker 4>everybody who, everybody who, somebody knows who Johnny is, and

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<v Speaker 4>right then respect you and they love what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want you to what do you want?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you want your legacy to be? When it's all,

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<v Speaker 4>when it's all, what do you want you?

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<v Speaker 7>I want to be able to And just is real

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<v Speaker 7>quick within that answer. When I look back now and

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<v Speaker 7>I see him myself. Wow, look where God has brought me.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I was in Beckingham Palace when Queen Elizabeth alive,

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<v Speaker 7>I was on the phone with el Chapel when he

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<v Speaker 7>was nine jail. I used to shoot from kings and

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<v Speaker 7>queens to masterminds of crime. You know, as a personal photographer.

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<v Speaker 7>How the hell you trust someone who never even went

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<v Speaker 7>to school for this, you know. But then I look

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<v Speaker 7>back and I realized when I was a child, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>sure both of y'all used to sell candy for your school.

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<v Speaker 7>And they wouldn't give you no money, but they give

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<v Speaker 7>you this like this name you of items, So this

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<v Speaker 7>much candy, you can buy this watch or this water gun.

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<v Speaker 6>You remember that, y'all.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, No matter how many points I was trying to

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<v Speaker 7>go for how many cookies or candies, I was always

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<v Speaker 7>trying to get a camera. So that to me shows

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<v Speaker 7>that God already had implanted it from when I was

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<v Speaker 7>three or four years old, in kindergarten, five years old,

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<v Speaker 7>to just like planting that seat and saying, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 7>go through some rough patches, not gonna lie and be

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<v Speaker 7>covered in dirt and be in the dark. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 7>sign some light on you. You're gonna grow like like

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<v Speaker 7>a flower through the cracks. You're gonna survive. They don't

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<v Speaker 7>wanna let you blossom. And you're gonna have in your

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<v Speaker 7>phone book. You're gonna have in your phone book. I

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<v Speaker 7>can't even lie Spike Leave's phone number. You know what

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<v Speaker 7>I'm saying. You're gonna have Naza's phone number. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 7>have Pat Joe's phone number in your book. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 7>have Rich Paul's number in your book. You're gonna be

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<v Speaker 7>well taken care of, and you're gonna be a cop,

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<v Speaker 7>a founding contributor to the largest photo agency in the

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<v Speaker 7>world called Geddy Images.

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<v Speaker 6>Can't even make that up. People think I work for getty.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a grandfather contributor aka my partner.

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<v Speaker 6>You feel me.

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<v Speaker 7>So I say that to say, that's how God, That's

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<v Speaker 7>how good God is. It's amazing He could take you,

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<v Speaker 7>whether you had to go to jail or you lost

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<v Speaker 7>a loved one that was so did you that it

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<v Speaker 7>just shifted your life to then now you wake up,

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<v Speaker 7>you're in the rich hotel in Paris, a balcony looking

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<v Speaker 7>towards Canon and the film festivals at Canone. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>I have stories to tell you. The legacy is to

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<v Speaker 7>leave an opportunity for our young brothers and sisters of

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<v Speaker 7>color and others to be able to photograph and be

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<v Speaker 7>business men and women of their own, so that they

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<v Speaker 7>don't have to work for a company. They could start

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<v Speaker 7>a company. I pray that what I leave behind is

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<v Speaker 7>But Gordon Park started, and Jamal Shabbaz, then the and

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<v Speaker 7>then you have Ricky Powell and God bless the dead.

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<v Speaker 6>Ricky Powell and.

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<v Speaker 7>Chimo Doom they started companies, but they were never able

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<v Speaker 7>to pass on how to do it. I want to

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<v Speaker 7>be able to teach the babies how to start their

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<v Speaker 7>own company and be self sufficient, so they didn't have

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<v Speaker 7>their own company. Right now, both my son and daughter

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<v Speaker 7>both know how to do photography. And now the next

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<v Speaker 7>step is how do we market them? How do we

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<v Speaker 7>brand them? I got my daughter, you know, Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 7>Nike campaign. I got my son in a morning side

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<v Speaker 7>gallery for Faces of Harlem exhibit which ends in November.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I'm trying to leave, but not just for

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<v Speaker 7>my children, all the children especially that were affected by

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<v Speaker 7>the demonic colonizing of American history. So that means we

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<v Speaker 7>got work to do to teach the children, not just photography, videography, rap, songwriting, music, political.

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<v Speaker 6>What's the word being a social apple?

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<v Speaker 7>To get for justice, we have to bring them with

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<v Speaker 7>us so and show them from my own hands and

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<v Speaker 7>our own minds.

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<v Speaker 3>Johnny Neonaz, thank you so much, brother. We love you,

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<v Speaker 3>we admire you, we respect you. I appreciate your understanding

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<v Speaker 3>of history. You really truly are a gem. Your wife

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<v Speaker 3>is a gym, your family everywhere you all are beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>never changing, you never act funny when you see people that, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>today we in the room with Diana Ross. So therefore,

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<v Speaker 3>to Meeking Mallory is not important.

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<v Speaker 1>You like Diana Ross. Do you know to meek A

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<v Speaker 1>Mallory you should know? Yeah, number exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So God bless you, We love you on your journey,

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<v Speaker 3>keep telling your story.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>Want to see my lemonade, Mighty Joyful Lemonade, It's available

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<v Speaker 7>on my website Mighty Joyful dot com. It's the first

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<v Speaker 7>of a lemonade that was inspired by hip hop and

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<v Speaker 7>it's inspired by Mama Wan so go by can telephone

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<v Speaker 7>and telephone mighty mighty joyful her Yeah, Mighty joyful lemonade.

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<v Speaker 2>Mighty Joyful lemonade joy Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And he love lemonade too, I like can't.

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<v Speaker 7>Has a different each man has a different element of

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<v Speaker 7>hip hop. Is a graffiti artist. That's my son and

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<v Speaker 7>daughter back to back in the b Boys stand. The

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<v Speaker 7>next one is uh the DJ, which is my daughter scratching,

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<v Speaker 7>the MC which is my son with the microphone. And

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<v Speaker 7>then last one not least the bee Boy breakdancing, and

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<v Speaker 7>that's me doing a windmill.

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<v Speaker 6>So you can collect all four.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, make sure you go out support Johnny Noona.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell them where they can find you again, Johnny.

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<v Speaker 7>Go to my Instagram or go to the website Mighty

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<v Speaker 7>joyful dot com or my excuse me, mighty Joyful lemonade

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<v Speaker 7>dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your Instagram?

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<v Speaker 7>Johnny Noona is j O h n n y nunyas

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<v Speaker 7>is and you and easy.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you, Johnny, keep it up, but I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how we owned.

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<v Speaker 4>Shout out to Johnny neonan is Man our brother the gym.

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<v Speaker 4>He's YO since I was a teenager. He took me

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<v Speaker 4>the first photo shoot in front of the tunnel.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing just to watch him, you know, grow and get

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<v Speaker 4>the accolades he deserves. And just hearing that story, Like

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<v Speaker 4>you said, we couldn't even stop him, Like usually we

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<v Speaker 4>don't let nobody just talk for fifteen twenty minutes, but

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<v Speaker 4>we couldn't stop that story. It was just so felling

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<v Speaker 4>and heartfelt and real and I just want the audience

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<v Speaker 4>to hear it exactly how he told it.

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<v Speaker 2>So shout out to him. Man, that brings me to

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<v Speaker 2>my I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 4>We talk about pictures and were talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 4>recording history, and we talk about these things. If everybody

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<v Speaker 4>knows unless you're under rock, you just blond of death.

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<v Speaker 4>We know what's happening, you know, in Israel and Palestine

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<v Speaker 4>right now, and we've seen, you know, the loss of life.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen bombing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's war, you know, we've seen that there's war, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and I think for me, what I don't get.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, First, we want to we always want to

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<v Speaker 4>acknowledge that we do not condone violence, murder, killing, kidnapping

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<v Speaker 4>at all, and we vehemently you know, denounce that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but we want that we need that the media properly

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<v Speaker 4>report what's going on. You know, the media. The media

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<v Speaker 4>is so dangerous and you know, when you when we

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<v Speaker 4>look at what happened to this israelly people who are

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<v Speaker 4>actually at a party, you know, and we see how

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they were invaded, were kidnapped, the lives were lost,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was it was a horrible thing, and nobody

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<v Speaker 4>could condone that. Nobody, even the Palestinians don't condone, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they are Palestinians that all of our friends here said

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<v Speaker 4>that that is the worst thing and they would not

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<v Speaker 4>condone it.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't celebrate it.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't think it's okay, but when you look at

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<v Speaker 4>the media and how they cover one side or something,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and unfortunately we have to go to social

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<v Speaker 4>media where there are certain people who are accurately reporting

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<v Speaker 4>what's actually happened with the Palestinians, you know, and their

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<v Speaker 4>lives being lost every day, their babies, they have account

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<v Speaker 4>for over one hundred babies that have been dead. They

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<v Speaker 4>have videos of this happened, and they have all of

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<v Speaker 4>these things. And when you look at the news and

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<v Speaker 4>you look at how they report at one side, and

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<v Speaker 4>they talk about how Israel has the right to defend

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<v Speaker 4>themselves and and they're saying babies were dead and women

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<v Speaker 4>are killed, and they're not saying that that's happening in Palestine.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not saying that they cut off all the water

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<v Speaker 4>and those people are over there. They're not saying that

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<v Speaker 4>they even American citizens who are locked in guys on

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<v Speaker 4>the strip that they won't allowed to leave. That I've seen,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, reports and I've seen people on calls and

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<v Speaker 4>videos talking about they pretty much just waiting to die.

1:15:58.000 --> 1:15:59.439
<v Speaker 2>They haven't had water, they haven't.

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<v Speaker 4>Had food, and you know, and so when these things

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<v Speaker 4>aren't reported and is reported, one way I want. I

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<v Speaker 4>want people to understand that these things are done for

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<v Speaker 4>a reason, whatever reason it is, you just have to

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<v Speaker 4>use discernment. You know, I've been around and I've watched media,

1:16:16.720 --> 1:16:19.360
<v Speaker 4>being inside of this industry and being part of the

1:16:19.360 --> 1:16:23.280
<v Speaker 4>social justice movement, I've watched the media lie. I've watched

1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:26.840
<v Speaker 4>the media create narratives that aren't true. I watched the

1:16:26.880 --> 1:16:30.479
<v Speaker 4>media term tell one side of narratives. And this is

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<v Speaker 4>what's happening here, man, And you know, we we we

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<v Speaker 4>we're not gonna allow that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna utilize our voices to tell the truth. All time.

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<v Speaker 4>Were people who actually went to Palestine, and we know

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<v Speaker 4>what's happened there. We know the history of what's happened there,

1:16:46.439 --> 1:16:49.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, And as much as we do not condone

1:16:50.040 --> 1:16:54.080
<v Speaker 4>what happened to the israelis what happened what Hamas has done,

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<v Speaker 4>and we do not condone that, we will not allow

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<v Speaker 4>there to be a one sided story to act like

1:17:00.000 --> 1:17:03.479
<v Speaker 4>Palaestinians haven't been dying and aren't still dying as we

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<v Speaker 4>speak right now. So you know, I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>send out my regard, my prayers to all the people

1:17:10.720 --> 1:17:13.559
<v Speaker 4>who lost that their loved ones all the ones who die.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, this is war and it's not okay. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we were looking for a peaceful resolution. But if you

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<v Speaker 4>do not acknowledge that peace only comes when there's justice.

1:17:24.200 --> 1:17:26.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, peace only comes when there's freedom. There's no

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<v Speaker 4>people who are pressed, who are going to continue to

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<v Speaker 4>be oppressed, who are going to die without any level

1:17:32.320 --> 1:17:34.880
<v Speaker 4>of fight, you know. And I think any person of

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<v Speaker 4>good nature and moral conduct wouldn't even want people to

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<v Speaker 4>be oppressed.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the thing I would say that one not

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<v Speaker 3>all Palestinians. You said, Palestinians don't even want the killing

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<v Speaker 3>to continue. And I want to make sure to be

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<v Speaker 3>careful about that, because while we certainly absolutely unequivocally believe

1:17:57.720 --> 1:18:03.479
<v Speaker 3>that the killing of innocent people, children or otherwise, women, men,

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<v Speaker 3>anyone that is innocent that is not at the forefront

1:18:07.280 --> 1:18:12.280
<v Speaker 3>of or you know, or leading the charge to murder

1:18:12.400 --> 1:18:16.599
<v Speaker 3>and oppress others, we don't agree with that. I use

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<v Speaker 3>the example that I don't believe people should kill cops,

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<v Speaker 3>even though I know cops unjustly kill us all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and even though they say, well it's one bad apple,

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<v Speaker 3>but if the rest of you stand by and watch it,

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<v Speaker 3>then we could sit here and say that all of

1:18:31.240 --> 1:18:35.280
<v Speaker 3>you are complicit, and therefore someone retaliated against an entire

1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:39.280
<v Speaker 3>precinct and blew it up and killed all the police officers.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some people that can make a justification for that,

1:18:42.040 --> 1:18:45.040
<v Speaker 3>because hey, if you didn't, if you're not joining us

1:18:45.120 --> 1:18:50.120
<v Speaker 3>to turn in to report, to condemn other officers who

1:18:50.120 --> 1:18:52.639
<v Speaker 3>are doing wrong, you are just as complicit. And there

1:18:52.640 --> 1:18:55.720
<v Speaker 3>are some people who have that mindset but still as

1:18:55.760 --> 1:18:59.320
<v Speaker 3>a righteous people that have been for far too long,

1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:03.800
<v Speaker 3>for all of my life and the lifetime of even

1:19:03.880 --> 1:19:07.240
<v Speaker 3>those who came before us, who walk through while being

1:19:07.840 --> 1:19:13.320
<v Speaker 3>holes down with the fire hoses, watermelon, throne at them.

1:19:13.200 --> 1:19:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Spit on, beat on, and still they.

1:19:16.000 --> 1:19:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Talked about loving their enemies. They talked about, you know,

1:19:20.520 --> 1:19:23.320
<v Speaker 3>turning the other cheek. They talked and some said it

1:19:23.360 --> 1:19:26.759
<v Speaker 3>was passive. Others said it was a form of being

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<v Speaker 3>able to maintain your personal righteousness while fighting systems and

1:19:31.400 --> 1:19:36.760
<v Speaker 3>not people. I mean, there's been many different theological breakdowns

1:19:36.800 --> 1:19:41.080
<v Speaker 3>and explanations for why violence does not beget violence right,

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<v Speaker 3>and we choose to walk in alignment with the idea

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<v Speaker 3>that we are never to spray the park and shoot

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<v Speaker 3>up everybody and let the grandmother get shot and the

1:19:52.600 --> 1:19:56.040
<v Speaker 3>chot the children get shot on the playground when is in.

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<v Speaker 1>The middle of the war between men.

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<v Speaker 3>We have always said that, so we don't nobody's going

1:20:01.040 --> 1:20:04.360
<v Speaker 3>to trap us into a cycle of conversation. But I

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<v Speaker 3>will say that I don't want to speak on behalf

1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:09.680
<v Speaker 3>of all Palestinians, because different Palastinians have different feelings.

1:20:09.880 --> 1:20:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I know the people that I know, the ones that I.

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<v Speaker 3>That we know, the ones that we know, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not even going to put language in their mouth. I'm

1:20:17.880 --> 1:20:20.840
<v Speaker 3>not going to put the word denounce in their mouth,

1:20:20.880 --> 1:20:22.200
<v Speaker 3>because you know, I don't.

1:20:22.560 --> 1:20:23.519
<v Speaker 1>I've never been.

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<v Speaker 2>One anybody I denounced the violence. I've never one who.

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<v Speaker 1>Wants to use that word.

1:20:30.080 --> 1:20:33.160
<v Speaker 3>But I will say that I know everybody that I

1:20:33.200 --> 1:20:35.799
<v Speaker 3>know that is Palastinian, that is close to this issue

1:20:36.240 --> 1:20:40.120
<v Speaker 3>does not want to see children die or people die

1:20:40.320 --> 1:20:43.639
<v Speaker 3>at all. And as a result, what they are calling

1:20:43.760 --> 1:20:46.759
<v Speaker 3>for for is the best way to solve the problem,

1:20:47.000 --> 1:20:50.599
<v Speaker 3>which is to deal with justice and to not allow

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<v Speaker 3>one group or any particular person or any government to

1:20:57.160 --> 1:21:01.720
<v Speaker 3>rule and reign over the lives and the freedom for

1:21:01.920 --> 1:21:07.840
<v Speaker 3>self determination of another group. So we're saying that You're right,

1:21:07.960 --> 1:21:10.800
<v Speaker 3>nobody should be dying. Anybody who feels that way, You're

1:21:10.800 --> 1:21:14.040
<v Speaker 3>never going to get us to disagree. We support that

1:21:14.080 --> 1:21:17.679
<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent. We support the fact that Israeli children, women,

1:21:17.920 --> 1:21:21.599
<v Speaker 3>families are to be safe. We support that, and we

1:21:21.760 --> 1:21:27.439
<v Speaker 3>know that the path towards it. It's for every single person. Again,

1:21:27.600 --> 1:21:31.519
<v Speaker 3>going back to the police references, for the cops to say, hey,

1:21:31.800 --> 1:21:35.360
<v Speaker 3>if we're going into communities throwing people up against the wall,

1:21:35.640 --> 1:21:40.000
<v Speaker 3>treating them like shit, hurting them, harming them, disrespecting them,

1:21:40.080 --> 1:21:43.760
<v Speaker 3>dehumanizing them, then you know what, I'm going over there

1:21:43.800 --> 1:21:47.080
<v Speaker 3>as an officer by myself into the community late at night,

1:21:47.160 --> 1:21:50.040
<v Speaker 3>thinking that somebody might not try to retaliate against me

1:21:50.080 --> 1:21:51.120
<v Speaker 3>when they can get the one.

1:21:51.040 --> 1:21:51.479
<v Speaker 1>Up on me.

1:21:51.920 --> 1:21:55.719
<v Speaker 3>So therefore I'm going to walk with respect. My father

1:21:56.479 --> 1:22:00.920
<v Speaker 3>was a correction officer for more than twenty years. He

1:22:01.200 --> 1:22:06.799
<v Speaker 3>never had a problem with the UH incarcerated individuals, especially

1:22:06.840 --> 1:22:08.880
<v Speaker 3>in the last jail that he was in in the

1:22:08.920 --> 1:22:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Bronx House. Never had a problem. I have met formally

1:22:12.560 --> 1:22:15.760
<v Speaker 3>incarcerated people who told me I hated that jail. I

1:22:15.800 --> 1:22:20.200
<v Speaker 3>hated those officers. But Mallory, Stan Mallory, I've never had

1:22:20.240 --> 1:22:22.280
<v Speaker 3>a problem with him. And you know why, because he

1:22:22.360 --> 1:22:25.479
<v Speaker 3>treated every man with respect. He understood that just because

1:22:25.520 --> 1:22:29.160
<v Speaker 3>you're in this situation, it's not all of you, and

1:22:28.600 --> 1:22:32.719
<v Speaker 3>he got their stories even when they were right wrong

1:22:32.880 --> 1:22:36.519
<v Speaker 3>or he was not to all be there be the judge,

1:22:36.800 --> 1:22:43.080
<v Speaker 3>the person who could the what do you call it, no, no, no, no, no, whatever,

1:22:43.360 --> 1:22:45.320
<v Speaker 3>the exactly the judge and the jury.

1:22:45.320 --> 1:22:47.519
<v Speaker 1>But I was trying to say something else. That was

1:22:47.600 --> 1:22:51.400
<v Speaker 1>not his role. It was not his role to judge.

1:22:51.560 --> 1:22:56.080
<v Speaker 3>His role was to ensure the safety of the officers

1:22:56.120 --> 1:22:59.640
<v Speaker 3>and the incarcerated people. In order to do that, he

1:22:59.720 --> 1:23:04.120
<v Speaker 3>felt respect of everybody was the best way. So that's

1:23:04.120 --> 1:23:07.000
<v Speaker 3>what we're saying. And therefore, when folks said, why is

1:23:07.000 --> 1:23:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Sean King only showing the images of the Palestinians, Well,

1:23:10.920 --> 1:23:11.760
<v Speaker 3>who else gonna do it?

1:23:11.800 --> 1:23:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Because the show ain't on the TV.

1:23:14.080 --> 1:23:17.519
<v Speaker 3>The TV at the news station is telling you about

1:23:17.720 --> 1:23:21.120
<v Speaker 3>one side of a story. Somebody has got to use

1:23:21.160 --> 1:23:24.759
<v Speaker 3>a major platform to provide some balance. And the last

1:23:24.760 --> 1:23:27.040
<v Speaker 3>thing I want to say is the big ass lie

1:23:27.360 --> 1:23:29.840
<v Speaker 3>that they have been telling that they now have had

1:23:29.920 --> 1:23:33.840
<v Speaker 3>to retract of saying that the children's head that they

1:23:34.360 --> 1:23:38.799
<v Speaker 3>had pictures of and the president saw pictures. Our president

1:23:39.080 --> 1:23:41.360
<v Speaker 3>saw pictures of children beheaded.

1:23:41.640 --> 1:23:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Why is that so important?

1:23:42.720 --> 1:23:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Because some people will say, well, people still died, so

1:23:45.040 --> 1:23:47.479
<v Speaker 3>regardless of whether it was beheading or not, children's people

1:23:47.520 --> 1:23:48.200
<v Speaker 3>still die.

1:23:48.400 --> 1:23:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, let me tell you why that's important.

1:23:50.280 --> 1:23:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Because in every comment section that I've read, folks are

1:23:53.920 --> 1:23:58.599
<v Speaker 3>using that as an egregious like the atrocity is so big.

1:23:58.840 --> 1:24:01.120
<v Speaker 3>They're using that to say, I can't even hear the

1:24:01.240 --> 1:24:05.479
<v Speaker 3>Palestinian struggle because as whatever whoever I am, black, white, Jewish,

1:24:05.520 --> 1:24:10.040
<v Speaker 3>whatever I am, I'm so outraged over the beheading of

1:24:10.200 --> 1:24:13.640
<v Speaker 3>children that I can't get past that. But then that

1:24:13.720 --> 1:24:16.639
<v Speaker 3>actually didn't happen. So now what you're gonna say? Because

1:24:16.640 --> 1:24:19.720
<v Speaker 3>the President said, oh, I saw the pictures, then the

1:24:19.760 --> 1:24:23.360
<v Speaker 3>White House secretary or whomever was the White House immediately said,

1:24:23.439 --> 1:24:24.519
<v Speaker 3>I actually didn't.

1:24:24.640 --> 1:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>It was from a report that came from net and Yahoo.

1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Who we know who he.

1:24:28.479 --> 1:24:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Is and the acts of terrorism that he has been

1:24:31.720 --> 1:24:34.760
<v Speaker 3>inflicted upon even his own damn people, as far as

1:24:34.760 --> 1:24:38.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm concerned. That So then they say, oh, event now

1:24:38.880 --> 1:24:42.519
<v Speaker 3>even the Israeli government has had to come forward to

1:24:42.560 --> 1:24:45.800
<v Speaker 3>say that there's no, there's actually not proof of such,

1:24:46.200 --> 1:24:48.960
<v Speaker 3>which means it was a lie because at the time,

1:24:49.200 --> 1:24:53.040
<v Speaker 3>it was all about sensationalism. It was all about making people.

1:24:53.080 --> 1:24:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Because if this one thing that you cannot explain to me,

1:24:58.439 --> 1:25:02.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't give a damn what happens in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You could.

1:25:04.320 --> 1:25:07.559
<v Speaker 3>You could come in my house right now. You can

1:25:07.640 --> 1:25:11.320
<v Speaker 3>shoot my mama, my daddy, my son. You could kill

1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:14.680
<v Speaker 3>every single one of us, and for whatever reason, I

1:25:14.800 --> 1:25:17.960
<v Speaker 3>might be able to rationalize it because of some shit

1:25:18.040 --> 1:25:21.200
<v Speaker 3>we did. Maybe my brother killed somebody, or my cousin

1:25:21.360 --> 1:25:25.760
<v Speaker 3>hurt somebody, and therefore war's war. Retaliation is retaliation. I

1:25:25.880 --> 1:25:28.080
<v Speaker 3>might try to understand what I'm saying. I never would,

1:25:28.080 --> 1:25:32.519
<v Speaker 3>but I'm just using a super duper extreme example. But

1:25:32.560 --> 1:25:36.880
<v Speaker 3>if you behead my grandchild, if you cut off my

1:25:37.080 --> 1:25:41.880
<v Speaker 3>one year old granddaughter's head, Lord God bless you, me

1:25:42.120 --> 1:25:44.200
<v Speaker 3>and the rest of this world, that.

1:25:44.280 --> 1:25:45.519
<v Speaker 2>Is you're the devil.

1:25:46.160 --> 1:25:49.760
<v Speaker 4>That's it, demonic you you you you're not even human.

1:25:49.800 --> 1:25:52.240
<v Speaker 4>It's it's no way I can humanize you. And that's

1:25:52.240 --> 1:25:54.479
<v Speaker 4>what that's what this is meant to do. It's meant

1:25:54.479 --> 1:25:57.400
<v Speaker 4>to be humanized because once somebody says that, because I

1:25:57.400 --> 1:25:59.920
<v Speaker 4>don't give for how angry I am if I'm in war,

1:26:00.120 --> 1:26:02.000
<v Speaker 4>this and that there's no way that I even want

1:26:02.000 --> 1:26:04.200
<v Speaker 4>to harm a baby. So for me to sit there

1:26:04.200 --> 1:26:05.880
<v Speaker 4>and grab a baby and decide I'm gonna cut a

1:26:05.960 --> 1:26:09.040
<v Speaker 4>baby's head off or any individual, this is that's that

1:26:09.160 --> 1:26:12.840
<v Speaker 4>is the devil reincarnated. That is pure evil, you know,

1:26:12.920 --> 1:26:15.320
<v Speaker 4>And that's why those stories are being told to our

1:26:15.360 --> 1:26:19.680
<v Speaker 4>people to to take away your empathy for and your

1:26:19.760 --> 1:26:22.000
<v Speaker 4>humanization of those individuals.

1:26:22.240 --> 1:26:25.520
<v Speaker 2>So we're not gonna allow that. We're gonna always speak truthful.

1:26:25.560 --> 1:26:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Because because to lend a Sorces point, the story is

1:26:29.960 --> 1:26:33.519
<v Speaker 3>bad enough. We don't need no extra The people were killed,

1:26:33.760 --> 1:26:36.519
<v Speaker 3>that is bad enough. But when you start talking about

1:26:36.520 --> 1:26:39.439
<v Speaker 3>beheading children, you know what you're doing. You're creating an

1:26:39.439 --> 1:26:41.200
<v Speaker 3>additional level of trauma.

1:26:40.880 --> 1:26:42.799
<v Speaker 4>Because you know that you know what you're doing, because

1:26:42.960 --> 1:26:45.320
<v Speaker 4>you know that there's a there's a story that can

1:26:45.360 --> 1:26:47.920
<v Speaker 4>say that we were people are dying over here too,

1:26:47.960 --> 1:26:50.800
<v Speaker 4>and people were killed, right, so they know they know that.

1:26:51.280 --> 1:26:53.640
<v Speaker 4>When they say that, and they just say, well they

1:26:53.680 --> 1:26:55.240
<v Speaker 4>kill people, and then we can say, well they kill

1:26:55.240 --> 1:26:57.800
<v Speaker 4>people here, it pretty much is like, well, y'all need

1:26:57.840 --> 1:27:00.559
<v Speaker 4>to fix this, right, But once you and the baby,

1:27:00.640 --> 1:27:03.280
<v Speaker 4>then it's all no, no, ain't nothing, worse than that.

1:27:03.760 --> 1:27:05.240
<v Speaker 2>So this is this out.

1:27:05.760 --> 1:27:07.679
<v Speaker 1>But I can tell you right now, wipe them out.

1:27:07.720 --> 1:27:09.200
<v Speaker 1>If you do it.

1:27:09.240 --> 1:27:15.479
<v Speaker 3>To wipe them out, every every man woman is nothing, nothing.

1:27:15.600 --> 1:27:18.800
<v Speaker 3>We've scrubbed the bottom and I know that's why they

1:27:18.920 --> 1:27:22.120
<v Speaker 3>presented that, and now it has to be walked back

1:27:22.160 --> 1:27:26.720
<v Speaker 3>because there's actually no evidence of it. Oh so now

1:27:26.800 --> 1:27:30.200
<v Speaker 3>let's now let's go back to having a conversation on

1:27:30.680 --> 1:27:33.439
<v Speaker 3>equal playing field. And it's still not equal playing for

1:27:33.640 --> 1:27:35.639
<v Speaker 3>we know that because we understand. But I'm just saying,

1:27:35.920 --> 1:27:38.760
<v Speaker 3>let's go backwards now and start having it. And then

1:27:38.880 --> 1:27:40.600
<v Speaker 3>once we get on this equal playing field, now we

1:27:40.680 --> 1:27:43.120
<v Speaker 3>got to start telling some truths about what has happened

1:27:43.160 --> 1:27:45.559
<v Speaker 3>and the history and the foundation, and then that's when

1:27:45.600 --> 1:27:48.200
<v Speaker 3>things start going to rye because people don't like to

1:27:48.240 --> 1:27:50.680
<v Speaker 3>have that conversation. I want to give Julianne Read some

1:27:50.760 --> 1:27:55.120
<v Speaker 3>credit because Wow, she certainly you know, wants to make

1:27:55.160 --> 1:28:00.280
<v Speaker 3>sure that she presents the truth and it's provided some

1:28:00.360 --> 1:28:03.080
<v Speaker 3>fair and balanced coverage of these things. I know it's

1:28:03.120 --> 1:28:04.920
<v Speaker 3>not easy for her to be able to do that,

1:28:05.000 --> 1:28:08.400
<v Speaker 3>So I give Joy a lot of credit for making

1:28:08.439 --> 1:28:11.200
<v Speaker 3>sure that her show is not used to just talk

1:28:11.240 --> 1:28:14.120
<v Speaker 3>about one side It's a shame that black people who

1:28:14.160 --> 1:28:17.360
<v Speaker 3>are on TV are sitting here and won't even call

1:28:17.400 --> 1:28:18.559
<v Speaker 3>a Palestinian's name.

1:28:18.600 --> 1:28:21.519
<v Speaker 1>That's disgusting, But anyway, gotta go.

1:28:22.040 --> 1:28:24.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika Di. Marriage is

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna always be wrong, but we will both always

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<v Speaker 4>and I mean always, always, always be authentic and speak

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<v Speaker 4>truth to power peace.

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<v Speaker 4>And catch us every single Wednesday for the video version

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<v Speaker 2>That's