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Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:48.280 that it does. We are in the air everywhere yet again. 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.639 This is the Friday podcast. We are back at it 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:56.560 in a conversation podcast. Because four hours a night on 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.080 the overnight obviously not enough. We do this eight days 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.480 a week. While podcast for you on Saturday and Sunday. 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.240 Tell a friend, Get the word out, Spread the word 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.480 not only on the i Heart platform, but all over 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:13.440 where do you get podcast? And this a conversation podcast. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.840 We are going into the rolodecks of stars at Fox 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.480 sports radio and someone that you might not know. A 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.440 lot of people don't realize this. This This is somebody actually 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:27.760 worked with at two different places in my radio journey. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:32.080 Here you know him, you love him. As half of 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.040 the night show, it's the Jason Smith Show with Mike 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.600 Harmony because of the Fairness Doctor. We had harmon on 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.240 last week, so we must bring in the number one 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.360 Jets and mets apologists. I know in all the land, 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.720 the great Jason Smith hanging out with us here on 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.080 the fifth hour, and Gascon's here. He'll chime in from 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.360 time to time. Just I'm I gotta warn you on that, Jason, 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.520 I have gonna warn you that Guestcon might chime in 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:00.120 with an annoying question at some point. So we're I'm 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:01.600 kind of I'm kind of used to when he does that, 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.560 you know, when he does the updates on on the 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.880 show during the weekend on my show, and I'm like, okay, hey, 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:11.040 what's trending, And they'll just say to me, is it Burke? Okay, Okay, 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.000 that's not Sean Burke. Is it Floris Lukewitch? No, No, 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:20.360 don't no, it's not it's not. It's bed to be fair. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.720 Though I've thrown Jason off once at least what I 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.320 mentioned is it Sema hyak, and it threw him off, 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.120 just completely off the reservation. So I get those in 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.920 from time to time. Yeah, so I feel your same, buddy, 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.040 I know what's going on here. Well, this is Jason 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.920 gascon aside. We'll just try to over Gascon's what's known 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.399 as an acquired taste. But nobody's acquired the taste. That's 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.560 the problem. So that that's the issue. But I'm gonna 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.200 make it all about us, you know. I want to 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.760 make it all about us, Jason, because in the early 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.840 days of Fox Sports Radio, Uh, we did shows together 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.600 and we actually worked together at Extra Sports eleven fifty 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.840 back back in the day. We're at that station at 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:00.760 the same time before Fox Sports Radio existed. But I 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:04.040 have fond memories of doing the show with you on 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:07.840 the weekends. But most of them, Jason, revolve around food. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.440 Most of them around revolve around food, not necessarily doing 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.960 the show, but the eating habits that we had in 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.520 those days. What do you remember about the early days 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:19.640 and we were hanging out and I think it was 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.640 like a Saturday night. I think we were doing something. Uh, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.760 I forget exactly when, but it was in the evening time, 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.440 nighttime hours, and we did a lot of shows together 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.160 back in those days. Oh he did, Buddy. I remember 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.280 when we first started at even you were on the 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.600 Ben and Dave Show, and I would fill limit with 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.920 Lee Klein and I would come on after you guys, 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.280 and I would come out, and then you would always 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.960 have something really funny and snarky to say about Lee, 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:44.800 and I would go, oh, I hope these guys get 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.960 along well, Okay, I know, I think must. Everything's all right. 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.600 And then we hooked up again at Fox, and yeah, 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.000 it was like Saturday and Sunday night late night like 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.080 into the like into the into the next morning. And 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:57.920 the food we had, like we would go to the 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.400 gas station and get like I like, I look at okay, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.360 our shows like four hours long. I think one show 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.400 was five hours long, and I would have like three things, 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.560 a Hostess cupcakes and like two Diet cokes and a 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.480 Diet dr pepper and oh, let me get some cheese 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:15.400 and crackers too. Like we had the entire uh area 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.359 covered like in front of him. We would do the 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.479 show from like right next to the keyboards and the 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.560 computers and I think the computers are still the same 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.000 from when we started back in the early two thousands, 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:25.599 and we would have it would be so it would 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.080 be like a smartest board of gas station food that 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.080 we would have. And I remember the Hostess cupcakes the 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.200 most because they must have had like six of those 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.400 every night you did the show together. Yeah, and I 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.120 remember the gummy sharks. That was always because they didn't 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:39.800 always have the gummy sharks, so when they had the 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.240 gummy sharks, so that was very big. And then you know, 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.120 this is back in my big eating days, Jason, and 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.480 I'm i double fisting. I got Eminem's in one hand, 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.760 I got gummy bears in the other. I got the 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.080 Cheetos over here, I got the frieds over there. Uh 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.320 you know, the Freedo bandidos over there hanging out in 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.479 the back. It was awesome, I mean it was it 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.960 was great. And now look at us, Jason, all these 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.520 years later, we're still there. I know you left for 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.640 a while, but you're back. And uh, my diet's changed 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.360 a little bit. Are you still eating the crazy diet? No, 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.640 not as much. Man. It was weird that I got 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.200 to a point where I said, I just can't keep 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.440 eating like this. I can't. I can't. I just can't 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.320 do it. And now since I stopped drinking diet soda, 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.440 like I've really cut that like now and maybe have 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.000 one every couple of days, we're gonna have a caffeine headache. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.599 And I noticed how much less I need to eat. 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.480 I'm like, wow, they're really right that caffeine is a 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.480 diet stimulant, because an appetite stimulant, because yeah, I drink 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.279 diet coke for years. It was I would drink like, 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.320 you know, three a day, you know, is what I 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.760 would have. I would keep drinking and keep drinking. And 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:40.600 if days I went out to watch a game or something, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.359 oh my god, I just don't a waitress, you hat 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.320 diet coke, keeping coming, keeping coming, did one every ten 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.480 or fifteen minutes. I did one, And then when I 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.039 stopped and I said, I just can't. It's, you know, 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:51.440 I get to the point where I gotta, I gotta 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.599 start doing something else. And I realized I'm full after 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.360 so much less, Like oh my god, I've eaten a 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.880 piece and a half a pizza and I'm usually it's 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.720 like four pieces, And I go, oh man, I'm kind 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.640 of fulled down. And it's amazing what happened when when 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.839 when I cut that back. So yeah, I'm with you, buddy. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.640 I mean, it's it's been. It's been something just realizing 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.160 when you change, how how easy it is to go 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.520 back to just, you know, eating what regular people eat 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:21.960 instead of overnight show. I know, Oh my god, I 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:26.880 I would eat. I I would just gorge back back 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.560 in the day. And I love soda too. I was 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.599 a huge, huge soda ga. I actually lost a fair 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.360 amount of way to originally when when I gained some 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.039 of it back, but by stopping drinking soda. I was 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:41.320 a dr pepper guy. Love cherry coke um. And I'm 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.560 the guy that would go in back when seven eleven 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.080 had those like triple big golf things or whatever, the 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.039 double big golfs. I'd go in there, I'd fill it up, 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.400 I drink half of it, and then I'd fill it 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.760 up again, and then I would check out of seven eleven. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.719 That would be that would be my move. This guy 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.160 here is trying to get away with not paying for 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:05.680 I didn't even need a slurpy man. I just need 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.320 an extra dr pepper. Whenever I was I was good 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.560 to go in that and now look at me now, 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.680 I don't even eat most days. Now now I'm like 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.520 getting to this inter minute fasting thing, which is which 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.920 is my new my new mischigas here. And if you 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.880 would have told young me, Jason, you knew me in 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.600 those days, that I would go like two days a 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.000 week without eating, I would have said, you're insane. I 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.000 would rather die than do that. But look at look 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.760 at me now getting old Jason. I guess it is 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.000 not the lesson there, but my goodness, you know, I 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.440 remember once I forget what we were talking. We talked 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.640 about this. I were so impressed by it. But we 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.360 were doing something and we were talking about a topic 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.640 I forget. You know, you would you would talk, you 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.280 would said what you were going to say. And then 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.960 I started talking, and you know, I think I talked 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.000 for maybe like not even a minute, like I want 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.680 to say something like that, And in that minute, you 0:07:55.880 --> 0:08:00.800 finished an entire diet Dr Pepper, like you know, talking 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.600 and then I started talking, you opened up the diet 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:10.280 Dr Pepper and then you stopped and you I was like, 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:14.400 oh my god, funny, that's the man that usually if 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.280 my print sold, it's fast by I start cheering and 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.440 it's like, oh, I gotta stop, I gotta stop, and 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.800 went right through it. It It was seconds and you were 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.119 done with an entire diet. Dr Pepper. Well, as you know, Jason, 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.080 it's not easy to become a total fat so you 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.200 really have to work for it. You have to have skills. 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.600 You've got to have skills to get to that level 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.720 and look like the Michelin man. So I did have 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.200 that go Now you mentioned Lee Klient. I've known Lee 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.240 for years. As you reference, we used to bust Lee's 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.880 balls all the time. I've had Lee on the podcast 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:44.800 a couple of times since we were doing this the 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:46.880 last year and a half or whatever we've been doing 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.760 the podcast. But um, what are I love Lee kind stories? 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.800 Because Lee has he is known as the original Prince 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.640 of darkness. I know Jonas Knocks our friend Jonas has 0:08:56.640 --> 0:09:00.640 that nickname now as well. But but Lee can turn 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:05.520 the most positive story about like rainbow, sunshine and lollipops 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.679 into a horror story like he has. He has a 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.480 gift in that department. But what are some of the 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.360 things you that stand out from your day is working 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.800 with our our buddy Lee. Oh I remember the first 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.840 day I worked with Lee. The first day I filled 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.920 and I was so nervous. Right, so, I hadn't really 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.880 done sports talk radio before. It was my first chance 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.959 I was getting you know, I find out from I 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.800 forget who our producer was the time, um, but they said, hey, listen, 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.360 you know you want to get in. The show starts 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.360 at eight. Why don't you get around six thirty year 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.240 So I'm like, all right, great, I did like six 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.200 fifteen making sure, and I'm sitting there for fifteen minutes. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.600 I'm nervous and Lee comes walking in and he said 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.959 something the producer and Lee walked over. He goes, are 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.199 you Jason? I said yeah. He goes, I'm like, the 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:47.400 first thing I want to let you know is we're 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.200 royally blank tonight, just so you know, right off the back. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.040 And he walked out of the room that the first 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.360 thing he didn't tell me we're royally blank tonight and 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.360 walked out of the room. But I don't I don't 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:02.079 know what could possibly be happening, What what can be happening? Something? 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.640 So be nine like, oh we may go on at 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.840 like eight fift you know it's coming on like after 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.280 a game and I'm like, what do we royally blank, 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.400 like they're gonna come and take the station's license away, 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.120 and they know they're gonna, you know, are the police coming. 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:19.400 I don't understand. But that was my first experience with 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.880 Lee Klein, And I'll tell you what he is like 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.200 a real life Cramer. Like there's times like after I 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:26.920 got to know him, he would come to my house 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:28.439 at like ten o'clock in the morning, like I'm in 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.480 the rogue because I worked late at night, knocks on 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.040 the door, Hey, what's going on? Hey, come on, we're 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.439 taking a ride. What do you mean what do you 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.560 need to take it a ride? We're talking about taking 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.320 it right? You just take a ride with me. And 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.880 I'm like okay. It would be the most random place 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.520 like task to go pick up these Clipper tickets at 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.240 the station. And then I got to go to this 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.760 appearance that I have to make. They go, what what 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.719 are you doing with you? So you're gonna come on here? 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.440 I'm like okay. Like every day was like we had 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.480 Cramer days. I'm like, Okay, whatever Kramer wants to do, 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.800 we're gonna do today. Yeah, it was, it was and Lee, Uh, 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.960 there's several famous Lee stories. The one that is my favorite, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:04.560 I don't know, it's my face. It's in the top 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.719 five was when the it was on the weekend at 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.360 eleven fifty and the they were fixing the phones, the 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.280 phone the call in lines were down and Lee had 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.640 to host like a three hour show on a Saturday. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.120 It was a Saturday morning, and you know, it's kind 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:21.600 of a light time. I think it was during the summer. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.120 You know, it's not too much going on these in 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:27.080 the days before social media isn't as much content out there. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:31.480 And so Lee he's like, I'm not doing the show 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.640 without calls, you know, I'm not doing the jolly starts 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:37.640 freaking at and uh and so that the only lines 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.720 that the only inbound lines that we're working were the 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.320 hot line numbers, which is the you know, as you know, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.280 Jason being a radius, the holy grail. You're not supposed 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:45.679 to give out the hot line number, the warm line. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:52.240 They come that's the biggest, So hand to God, Jason Lee. 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.319 Lee does his opening a little monologue and then proceeds 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.320 to He says, well, only for today, I have a 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.560 special number to call in on. He then gives out 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.040 the warm line on the air, for people to call 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.520 in to his show. It was hilarious. Oh my god, 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:12.560 did that It was awesome? It was awesome. Now, before 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.760 I go too much further, since we've been at Fox 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.760 Sports Radio since the early days, and you left and 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:21.400 then came back, but you did shows. And this is 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.600 something a name that a lot of people who are 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.720 listening now might not know. But if you've been with 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.040 Fox Sports Radio since the early days, you know this guy, 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:35.920 Sarge the comedian, Sarge the comedian. And have have you 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.280 kept in contact with him? Is he still around? As 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.040 he still? I know? Last I heard he was like 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:44.440 doing boat comedian comic acts or something like that. I 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.520 I lost contact with him, but he hosted a show 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.959 on on Fox Sports Radio in the in the evening time, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:55.560 and I remember, yes sir, it was yes sir, No, sir. 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.839 Was he had some catchphrase that you had to say 0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:59.240 when you called it and no one would say it, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.760 and he would get very annoyed. Yeah, you know, you 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.480 had to say sir, yes sir to get on the air. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.560 And anytime someone would get on there, they say, hey, 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.400 you're on the air, and I get great, Hey, I 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.560 think the cowboys. You gotta say sir, yes sir. And 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.880 then there's people who just couldn't say it. They would 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.400 say yes sir, no, no, sir, yes sir, sirr. I 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.360 all right, sorry, I want to talk about the Cowboys. No, 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.319 you have to say sir, yes sir. It gives you 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.559 permission to speak. And sometimes it was really funny because 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.400 I think some people just did it on purpose, like 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.520 I'm just not gonna say it. I'm gonna say yes, sir, 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.640 I'm gonna say no sir, I'm gonna say aye aye sir. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:31.560 I'm gonna say all these things just because I want 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.720 to see how far this goes. Yeah, I was on 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.480 with him at night and uh, we were on for 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:40.360 a while and then when and he yeah, he did 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:41.960 wind up going to do I think that's what he's doing. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.640 I haven't talked to him in years and years and years, um, 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.720 but I think that's what he's doing. I was doing 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.480 doing comedy on ships, which is I think what he 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.720 did before he came to Fox, like he would be 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.560 the comedian on on a ship, and and that's you know, 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.480 he'd performed like every night and and go on and 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.200 and that's kind of what he does. I think that's 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.679 still what he does. Well, if that's what takes. If 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.520 that's what he does, though right now you'd have to 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.439 say he's not doing that because of what's going on 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.800 in the last year right there, there's not Cruises aren't 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.960 really happening right now because of the I can't believe 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.080 anybody's going on cruises right now. I thought you were 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:15.599 going to bring up somebody from a long time For 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:20.920 you to bring up Page, that's well, that's my person, Bob. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.480 You know, Bob, when you talk about wild and crazy man, 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.920 Bob thought that the listener and I, you know, I 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:28.800 got along with Bob and we had to fall out 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.640 at the end. Apparently he trashed me on Twitter and 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.480 then he apologized for it. But uh yeah, Bob was 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.000 like the guy who replaced Howard cosell at on his 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.000 radio show in New York and all this scene is 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.640 a Detroit guy, but he spent time in and uh 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.880 oh yeah, he was a carrier. He thought people listened 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:45.800 from the beginning of the show to the end of 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.880 the show and didn't turn down. And then he also 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:50.880 the other thing that blew me. He didn't want to 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.040 take calls from cell phones because he saw the quality. 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.160 Can you imagine doing your shows. We're gonna take calls, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.680 but no cell phones can call in. No one would 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:04.760 do who's gotta landline? No one's gonna land There would 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.800 be a show with no phone calls. Why had someone's 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:11.640 calling in this one guy? Woman's eighty five, she's calling 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:18.520 from the landline. You think about the chiefs? Uh? Now, 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.480 the original Fox Sports radio lineup, they had Jeanie's Alaska, 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.920 Kevin Fraser, Bob Paige was part of it. Uh. Was 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.360 it Bob Golic I think was doing the overnight show 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.480 originally or not Bob Golick? Was it Bob Goli? It 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:37.200 might have been. Bob Golick and Carrara did nights yea, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.880 and Dan Cilio did overnight. Oh, that's right. Cilio was 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.680 doing the overnight and then there was oh and Chris 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.800 Myers and Steve Lyons were on during the day like 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.720 it was like Alasko and Kevin Fraser like that was 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.200 the That was the afternoon run on five. Then it 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.520 was Bob Paige doing afternoons, and then it went into 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.600 Golick and Herrera and then uh, Dan Elio that's how 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.920 it went. Yeah, okay, yeah, and then then Lampley did 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:06.960 a show for a while, but Bruno was the big 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.680 morning guy they had and then uh and they and 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.000 they went to the network actually went dark when Rome 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.880 was on, Jim Rome was on because they was a 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.320 Premier property, so they didn't have at that time, they 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.480 didn't have any show in that in that window in 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.840 the early days of Fox. Now you did TV for 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.040 a while, just your big TV guy there. And actually 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.920 when you started in radio, you were I think you 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:27.840 were a Channel seven, right, you were working at Channel 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.480 seven in l A before I think before you went 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:34.120 to eleven fifty, right, if I remember correctly. Yeah, Yeah, 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.680 I was producing sports. I was producing the six o'clock 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.040 Sports past. At the eleven o'clock Sports cast, it was 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.040 Bill Weir, who now is you know huge, you know, 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.280 moving on in CNN and at different places, and um 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.080 Rock Kukazaki, who's still there. I just had roped on 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.840 my show two nights ago to talk about the Tiger 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.840 Woods story because he was actually, you want a great 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.760 story at Rob Tukasaki Channel seven, it's been the bane 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.360 guy there for like twenty years. Um when they're average 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.520 was going on for Tiger Woods, Like Rob wasn't on 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.040 the air, and he wasn't on the air because he 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.680 was at the funeral for for his his his great 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:10.920 aunt I think it died. He was in the service. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.199 He walks out of the service and he's bum hit 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.440 with all these texts that hey, Tiger Woods in a 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.280 serious and he's on the air outside of the funeral 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:19.920 and you could see he's wearing a suit and there's 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.480 like flowers everywhere, and he's got his camera up. He's 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.480 holding his camera up. He said, oh my god, my 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.480 arms are so tired from holding this camera. He's got 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.480 the air talking about this and he just walked out 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.080 of the funeral and you're on the air. You gotta 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:32.840 talk about this, and you know that was their coverage. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.440 You wind up going all day. That's what Rob's Rob's 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.159 a great I love Rob. Rob's one. And Bill. Remember 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:39.880 Bill Weir When we were doing the Ben and Dave 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.560 Show back in the day, we had Bill on and 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.360 he even at that time, he's like he didn't really 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.240 want to be the sports guy. He always wanted to 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.399 get into the news. And I know he's been at 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.760 CNN and other places and done pretty well from somebody, 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:53.359 but even back then, I think he was kind of 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.919 like he was already looking to get away from the 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.159 sports stuff. He had other aspirations other than being the 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.760 sports guy. Uh yeah, he wanted he like he came 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.520 into KBC. I think you know remember Bill telling me that, 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.600 like they promised them certain things and they didn't deliver 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.800 on it, Like you're supposed to get a show. Uh, 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:13.480 Like I think he was supposed to get that show 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.200 that Oh whos to Byron Allen remember when it was. 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:19.000 It was he'd be in a taxi camp and he'd 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.320 frid it around and celebrities would get in and they 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:22.879 do an interview that they would leave when somebody else 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.160 would get in. Like that was supposed to be his show. 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.679 And then for some reason to ABC like didn't want 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:29.159 him to do it. He got he got mad. He 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:30.440 was like, well that's why I came there to be 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.359 he was doing stuff like that, Like that was supposed 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.399 to be his show originally the cabs going out, people 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.000 coming in it was. And then Jerry Seinfeldt now turning 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.119 into a whole big thing where he started doing it. 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.480 Then he does comedians getting coffee with it. So yeah, 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.000 it turned out to be a great idea. Twenty years 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.200