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Speaker 1: Seventeenth contail the ridal What time down we are world.

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Speaker 2: Tam each time for Big Blue Kickoffs Live with Sean

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Speaker 3: Nobody smelt Mirash with you next half hour of Giants

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Speaker 3: talk right here on Big Blue Kickoff Live. When Hello,

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Speaker 3: my name is Craig comes your way at nine thirty, Marash,

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Speaker 3: this is not the Dallas Cowboys this week for the

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Speaker 3: New York Football Giants.

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Speaker 2: And that's the good news.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys have had the Giants number.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about it on the show a bunch over

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Speaker 3: the past, you know, seven eight years since basically Dak

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Speaker 3: Prescott arrived. There not the case for Washington command There's

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Speaker 3: Giants seven too and one in their last ten games

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Speaker 3: against the Commanders. Tommy DeVito once again a quarterback, which

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Speaker 3: of course changes the equation a bit understandably. So with

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Speaker 3: that said, you look at this Washington team and how

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Speaker 3: the Giants match up against them, there's no reason why

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Speaker 3: this game should not be competitive.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and for anybody out there who's watched the Giants

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Speaker 5: the last two weeks without Leonard Williams, and obviously we

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Speaker 5: understand what big a loss that was. You know, I

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Speaker 5: don't want to hear about, you know, everything falling apart

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Speaker 5: defensively because of one guy. The Commanders were pretty big

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Speaker 5: sellers at the deadline, Schmelk dumping off obviously, Monte Sweat

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Speaker 5: and Chase Young, and those two guys were there the

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Speaker 5: last time these teams played. So this is a Commander

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Speaker 5: team still fighting and scrapping in their own right. We'll

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Speaker 5: see a they do versus Dallas on Thanksgiving next week.

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Speaker 5: But this is, you know, bringing it back down a

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Speaker 5: little peer tier type of situation, a game we should

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Speaker 5: all sit down on Sunday. And if you're in the

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Speaker 5: camp still of I want my Giants to play competitive,

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Speaker 5: winning football, well I think you have an opportunity here

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 3: And Tommy Devido last week when I went back and

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Speaker 3: watched the coaches Stave Sean.

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Speaker 2: We were talking before the show.

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Speaker 3: Much like in week one when Daniel Jones was the quarterback,

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Speaker 3: the show was still the same. Quarterback drops back, gets

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Speaker 3: a throw, and there are three Dallas Cowboys one two,

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Speaker 3: three Dallas Cowboys ready to sack him. And he did

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Speaker 3: not have much of a chance to succeed in this game.

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Speaker 3: And this is why to me is the formula is different.

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Speaker 3: And we'll get to the Commander's offense in a second,

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Speaker 3: but this Commander defense is not very good. You will

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Speaker 3: get any of the advanced metrics with this Washington defense.

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Speaker 3: Thirty first in EPL out per drop back, twenty ninth

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Speaker 2: Yards per game.

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Speaker 3: Their secondary has been a struggle all year. No team

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Speaker 5: Forbes has not been the rookie Banks has been at

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Speaker 3: No, he's gotten benched, he's been kind of slowly weaned

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Speaker 3: traded their two best pass rushers two weeks ago since

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Speaker 3: they last played the Giants. This Washington defense is not

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Speaker 2: In this game.

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Speaker 5: Totally totally with you here, And obviously we all breathe

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Speaker 5: the sigh relief when we saw Andrew Thomas come back

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Speaker 5: in a game last Sunday after being carted off. He

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Speaker 2: And nothing that John Michael Schmid's either, by the way, right, So.

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Speaker 5: I mean, frankly, I'm just gonna plant my flag. I

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Speaker 5: She will no doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: And honestly, for anybody that might have griped or belly ached,

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys are gonna go up and down the field,

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Speaker 5: Big middle finger to you, Dallas. We're gonna stop time.

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Speaker 5: But that drive at the end of the game versus

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Speaker 5: you know, that sets some things up when you're talking

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Speaker 5: getting to mix. Slayton caught a pass one, Dalla caught

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Speaker 5: And I totally with you in many ways. I think

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Speaker 5: just let the game end last Sunday. I think Mike

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Speaker 3: And now this goes back to the point you made

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Speaker 2: But if it doesn't, ye right.

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Speaker 3: If they come out of this game and maybe they

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Speaker 2: It happens, right.

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Speaker 3: The defense cannot allow a couple of touchdowns on Washington's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and in typical Giant fashion, right, they just can't

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Speaker 5: But I say that because Sam Hallell is a guy who,

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Speaker 5: So Leonard Williams is gone. Yes, Dexter Lawrence is facing

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Speaker 5: way more double and triple teams. Yes, still beating them

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Speaker 5: here so far. You know, there's no reason the Washington

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Thibadeau o Jaalari will play it looks like Deontay

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Speaker 2: My seven sacks in the last three games, get.

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Speaker 5: Better, which he should as a young quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 3: Before that, he had been sacked at least four times

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Speaker 3: bit better. But you mentioned Dexter Lawrence. You go back

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Speaker 3: to that game four weeks ago. Dexter Lawrence wrecked the game.

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Speaker 3: He dominated, he had two sacks, He's in the backfield

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Speaker 3: Chris Paul, not the point guard, is playing left guard

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Speaker 2: Like this is another.

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Speaker 3: Game where you're looking at Dexter Lawrence and there's no

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Speaker 5: Exactly. And by the way, if the Giants were really

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Speaker 5: Lawrence is getting defensive Player of the Year chatter. Absolutely,

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Speaker 5: so this should totally be a Dexter Lawrence cave on

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Speaker 5: We should know that from the other side, great pass

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Speaker 5: And whether that's the Washington receivers running at the Giants secondary,

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Speaker 5: Howell's lap all game long. And Frankly Schmolke, that is

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Speaker 5: the recipe for the Giants to get themselves back off

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Speaker 3: It just shows you how topsy turvy this year has

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Speaker 3: been in the NFL. Sean like if you would have

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Speaker 3: told anyone and if you had Sam Howell as lean

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Speaker 3: the NFL and pass d after a week ten on

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Speaker 3: your bingo card, go play the lottery, because I think

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Speaker 3: he got a decent shot. And now you look at

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Speaker 3: this Commander's team, and you know, we've talked about this

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Speaker 3: them twice a year obviously, Oh, you know the you

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Speaker 3: and that. Now you look at their team. The part

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Speaker 3: mark before the season in Hawl is now the strength

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Speaker 2: If you look at Washington, what scares you the most

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Speaker 2: is their passing game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And when's the last time we said that about the

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Speaker 3: Washington Commanders, Mark Rippin, Yeah, RG three.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's been a long time.

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Speaker 5: six years old. Schmelk, that's it. You never think of

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Speaker 5: the problem was quarterbacks prior weren't getting the ball and

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Speaker 5: again we talked about the Aande Banks playing in this

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Speaker 3: You know, And we mentioned the trade last thing before

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Speaker 3: It's really not anymore. You know, they trade him, they

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Speaker 3: traded Chase Young. They were their two best players. Jonathan

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Speaker 3: He has a pass rush win rate of under ten percent,

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Speaker 3: which is not good. And it seems like.

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Speaker 2: Deron Payne signed that contract and is like, I'm good, right.

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Speaker 2: He's got like one sack.

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Speaker 3: Six quarterback hits, twenty one quarterback pressures, which is not

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Speaker 3: a high number. Those two guys, even without the edge players,

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Speaker 3: they were not having really good years. So they the

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Speaker 3: Giants should be able to protect Tommy DeVito and with

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Speaker 3: that secondary, take some shots. I want to see some

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Speaker 3: the secondary you can do it against. Is this Washington

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and by the way, shots do the field, how

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Speaker 5: you took about Hyatt clear protocol there as well, And

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Speaker 5: obviously Isaiah Hodgens is a guy who could still get

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Speaker 5: routes Schmelke. There's also no reason not to take the

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Speaker 5: shots down the field here with de fil right, Like,

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Speaker 5: the reality of the situation is, you're two and eight.

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Speaker 5: Last week, scoring seventeen points with that last seven coming

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Speaker 5: Giants all year. They only scored fourteen points versus Washington

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Speaker 5: last time they're out and guess what that was because

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Speaker 5: they were taking shots down the field in the first half.

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Speaker 5: So that's where that was totally the effort to Rod Taylor,

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Speaker 5: there is absolutely nothing to lose for the Giants to

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Speaker 5: Not to say that they won't at times with Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 5: but uncork a little loosen up Washington. Don't let them

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Speaker 5: A couple shots to high wouldn't kill the Giants, and

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Speaker 5: let the veto feel good about himself too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look with Washington's offense, I think you're gonna

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Speaker 2: Let's go to.

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Speaker 3: Emilio in Staten Islands. He will lead us off this morning. Emelia,

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Speaker 3: what's up?

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Speaker 4: Fuck?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Party? I haven't talked to you in a while.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: How are you not?

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Speaker 4: Better?

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Speaker 1: Not bad? You know you guys do it at twelve thirty.

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Speaker 1: I'm in construction. It's ought to listen to that show.

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Speaker 2: You know, no, dude, I hear you, but you know what.

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Speaker 2: The good news is that. Go check it out on

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Speaker 2: the podcast platforms.

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Speaker 1: You I can't get to to that midday show if

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Speaker 1: I call one hundred times a day.

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Speaker 5: Well hashtag blame Hoffman. I'm sorry, b Yeah, blame Hoffman.

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Speaker 1: Here's what it is. He's got afton anyway doing it

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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: The beect think for the Giants day to lose for

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Speaker 1: a long term, and that's what you what we're always

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Speaker 1: saying during that day show, the long term on this team.

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Speaker 1: It Grants really need top level talent.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they're not, by the way, they're not

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Speaker 5: for resth of top end talent.

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Speaker 1: They just you know, God, somebody gets hurt. Ain't nobody

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Speaker 1: behind them?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they need depth, no doubt about it. But that

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Speaker 5: we knew that two years ago and Shane took over.

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Speaker 5: But because the Giants made the playoffs, I think everybody.

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Speaker 1: And this talk about getting rid of dable Shane people

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Speaker 5: Very stupid as stupid is I agree.

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Speaker 1: I don't get that that that talk either.

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Speaker 5: No, No, don't worry They're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry about Yeah, Emilia appreciate the call. Man, Look,

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Speaker 3: you're one thousand percent right. You can only go through

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Speaker 3: this cycle of, you know, every two years making a change.

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Speaker 3: Nothing's ever going to work. And Sean, I think you

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Speaker 3: made the great point. And because I think of the

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Speaker 3: playoff appearance and playoff win last year, people forgot this

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Speaker 3: when Joe Shane and Brian Dable showed up two years ago.

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Speaker 2: This was a multiple year project. This was not a one.

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Speaker 3: Year, quick turnaround deal, and people, I think lost sight

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Speaker 3: of that given what happened last year, which I understand,

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Speaker 3: but it takes a general manager.

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Speaker 2: And I had this argument with with a.

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Speaker 3: Caller during our weekday big Ble Kickoff Live this year, like,

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Speaker 3: but he's had a year and a half to build

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Speaker 3: a roster two years. I go, yes, I get that,

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Speaker 3: but keep this in mind. His first free agency period

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Speaker 3: was shedding contracts he had. Joe Shane had no money

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Speaker 3: to add people in his first offseason. Here, okay, He's

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Speaker 3: had two drafts and one free agent period to build

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Speaker 5: And by the way, and by the way, is hitting

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Speaker 5: pretty good rate on his draft picks. I mean, everyone's

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Speaker 5: to complain about Evean Neil. Look at the two drafts

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Speaker 5: and think about the guys that we see playing significant steps,

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Speaker 5: and many of which that we like, are all draft

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Speaker 5: picks the last two years. And I don't know where

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Speaker 5: we're at in sports as a society because I kind

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Speaker 5: of felt this way full disclosure, peelmck the curtain as

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Speaker 5: a hockey fan when the Rangers got rid of Garagalant.

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Speaker 5: Why do we want to punish guys for being really

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Speaker 5: successful in year one if year two doesn't live up

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Speaker 5: to the billing? Take a deep breath. Last year still existed.

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Speaker 5: What we saw Brian Dable do as a head coach happened.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't a mirage. It happened. But because it happened,

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Speaker 5: we're not gonna punish him now because the wheels have

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Speaker 5: kind of fallen off. And oh, by the way, it's

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Speaker 5: not as if the same roster from last year is

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Speaker 5: out there competing this year. The Giants stink.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 5: The end result right now is two and eight, and

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Speaker 5: it sucks. Believe me. When I sit down there and

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Speaker 5: I got my wings and I got the sauce all

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Speaker 5: over my face and I watched the Giants lose, it

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Speaker 5: pains me. It pains me. But but Andrew Thomas was

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Speaker 5: your best player. He got hurt in quarter one of

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Speaker 5: game one. The Giants had to play at that time

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Speaker 5: a third round guard who hadn't played tackle at left tackle,

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Speaker 5: and Andrew Thomas was at forever. Saquon Barkley got hurt

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Speaker 5: in week two and from that point forward, think about it.

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Speaker 5: Whatever would have spent daking of Jordes. The two best

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Speaker 5: offensive players on this team were out of the lineup

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Speaker 5: for the next couple of weeks in a row where

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Speaker 5: things really took a turn. If we all agree, the

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Speaker 5: Giants are still building their depth up and you lose

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Speaker 5: two of your best players within the first six quarters

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Speaker 5: of football, I'm sorry they didn't have the depth to recover. Now,

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Speaker 5: since then, a bunch of events have happened, right Torod

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Speaker 5: got hurt, Jones got hurt again. It's one of those

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Speaker 5: years where it started from the quarter one night one

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Speaker 5: and it is spiraled. Since that is not on Brian Dable,

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Speaker 5: get your head out of you took his ses and

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Speaker 5: understand that.

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Speaker 3: I had somebody call up our show this weekend say

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Speaker 3: the league make a mistake giving Brian Dables Coach of

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Speaker 3: the Year war last year?

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Speaker 2: With come, no, it wasn't a mistake.

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Speaker 5: This is a one year award.

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Speaker 3: He did a great job with the team last year

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Speaker 3: when they frankly overachieved, Let's be honest, and they won

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Speaker 3: a playoff game when no one thought that was possible

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Speaker 3: that now is just crazy.

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Speaker 2: Brian Dable did.

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Speaker 3: Not forget how to run a successful offense. Mike Kapsa

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Speaker 3: good offense looks like. But you can only do so

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Speaker 3: And you made the point last year they had injuries, right, right,

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Speaker 3: But Daniel Jones played every game, Seku and Barkley played

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Speaker 3: But they were healthy, right, and then Andrew Thomas played

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Speaker 3: every game. Who are the three most important players on

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Speaker 2: That's them. It is not close, not close.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, Uni mentioned the Waller injury, their

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Speaker 2: He's missed the last two games, right.

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Speaker 5: And Schmelk look last year too. If you go back.

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Speaker 5: What what crazy things happen? Right, the Giants with that

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Speaker 5: crazy ending to the Raven game or the stop versus

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Speaker 5: Right, the Giants are two plays away last year from

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Speaker 5: is in football. And what did we see this year?

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Speaker 5: Two four or two one yard plays from the goal

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Speaker 5: on at each end of the half versus Buffalo that

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Speaker 5: did not go the Giants way. If one of them does,

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Speaker 5: they win the game twenty four seconds versus the Jets.

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Speaker 5: A decision that came down there whether you should run.

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Speaker 5: Gano being hurt cost the Giants a game. We could

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Speaker 5: still be having the conversation with Tom to, you know,

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Speaker 5: today if those two things had gone their way. And

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Speaker 5: then you're throwing Jones, who while getting better around and

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Speaker 5: those things go their way, went their way last year

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Speaker 5: they were in a playoff mix. That's football.

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Speaker 2: Well show them, that's just football. You can't figure it

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Speaker 2: and that's just the way football. All right, Let's go

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Speaker 2: to Richie and Queen's. He's the next Don big Book.

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Speaker 2: Kick off live, Ritchie, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Hey guys, Hey Sewing. It was really good meeting you

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Speaker 4: at the at.

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Speaker 5: Wrench, Richie. I'm Richie. I've been telling everybody about your

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Speaker 5: sweatshirt and had since I saw you at Red's. You

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Speaker 5: walked right out of the eighty six championship game in

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Speaker 5: two Reds four weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Did you throw trash at him? Richie and Richie did?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Did you see me throwing the football with Evan

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Speaker 4: when fifty odd one.

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Speaker 5: Richie Queens could start a giant quarterback today at seventy six.

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Speaker 4: Nice. I appreciate that, but real quick, I kind of

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Speaker 4: disagree with you, real quick, and that is, Yes, the

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Speaker 4: d injuries have been steady, but the direction of this

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Speaker 4: team for next year Jones questionable, Barkley questionable, the offensive

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Speaker 4: line Neil not big. But I'm saying, yes, the injury

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Speaker 4: is a part of the whole situation. But looking forward

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Speaker 4: and saying that, you know, you know McAdoo had a

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Speaker 4: think he's got a lot of talent, Dabo, and I

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Speaker 4: think he's got stability. But going forward to say that

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Speaker 4: with you know, we were building, we're building on Jones.

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Speaker 4: He was gonna be our rock. We were gonna build

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Speaker 4: our offensive line. We were gonna build on Walla. Walla

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Speaker 4: is what he's been the last four years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Richie, direction, Richie. By the way, twelve games of

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Speaker 5: Darren Waller still better than zero games without him number two.

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Speaker 5: As far as direction goes, the quarterback is like the

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Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty million dollar elephant in the room.

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Speaker 5: And I love Daniel Jones. Yeah, the eight weeks to

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Speaker 5: see how that plays out. Look clearly, Joe Shane, if

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Speaker 5: you trust him as a gym, is traveling around watching

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Speaker 5: quarterbacks and everything else. Thank you. It doesn't mean Jones

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Speaker 5: won't be here. He's gonna be You're probably on this contract.

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Speaker 5: We'll see what the Giants do. And by the way,

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Speaker 5: the direction is nothing to do with Daniel Jones' talent.

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Speaker 5: He got banged up. He had his second neck injury

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Speaker 5: three years and towards a cl take a deep breat

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Speaker 5: to stole a lot of football to figure out what's

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Speaker 5: gonna happen with this Giant team.

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Speaker 2: And everyone knew that sae Quon was on one year deal.

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Speaker 3: That's something you'll figure out our But look, coming off

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Speaker 3: in nine to seven in one season versus the season

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Speaker 3: where you start two and eight, is it cloudier?

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do moving forward? Absolutely? I mean

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Speaker 2: that that's just the nature of the beast.

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Speaker 3: All right, Morash, Sorry, Lawrence, we never a chance to

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Speaker 3: get to you, Morash. Give me a thought, a take

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Speaker 3: of prediction, however you want to look at it for

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Speaker 3: Giants and Commanders tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: I think the Giant's gonna win the game. Spell So

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Speaker 5: I think what I've said all week, I've turned on this.

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Speaker 5: I think they're gonna win the game. I think you hit.

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Speaker 5: I think the Giants are gonna win this game. Twenty

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Speaker 5: to nineteen, twenty to nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Look, I know what the number is. I understand why

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Speaker 3: people think Tommy Devido. Something in my gut tells me

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Speaker 3: they're gonna play well in this game, Sean, and I

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Speaker 3: think they're gonna score some points. And I hope the

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Speaker 3: Deep Ben shows up and has their pride bruised a

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Speaker 3: little bit. After the last two games, and they show

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Speaker 3: up and they play one of their better games. They

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Speaker 3: look like the defense that played against Washington four weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we can't beat anybody else, but Commanders, where your daddy?

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Speaker 5: Remember that tomorrow, guys.

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Speaker 3: heaven forbid, first one of the year. It feels like

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