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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by calllighta health.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome in to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown.

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Speaker 2: Steve tasked me with you on a Wednesday edition, back

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Speaker 2: to our more familiar two hour format after going three

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Speaker 2: hours on Monday and Tuesday, and those will fall by

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Speaker 2: the wayside now that we are into the off season.

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Speaker 2: Will be strictly on a two hour time limit, five

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Speaker 2: days a week because during the football season we always

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Speaker 2: do a three hour Monday show after games, which is

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Speaker 2: completely understandable. Need that extra hour to dive dive into

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Speaker 2: the game that was lit without it.

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Speaker 3: So back to our two hour format.

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Speaker 2: Glad to have you with us, and we'll be welcoming

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Speaker 2: your participation here shortly. But Steve, we've got some stuff

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Speaker 2: to get to as we usually do. And uh, interestingly enough,

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Speaker 2: our topic of discussion will be a poll today.

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Speaker 3: We haven't had a poll in a while.

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Speaker 2: Figure we crank that up and get some voting from

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Speaker 2: you find folks out there listening and watching.

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Speaker 4: It's got to be a sign of the off seasons here, man.

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Speaker 4: We're going to multiple choice questions, right, you know, I

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Speaker 4: still remember.

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Speaker 2: Now my dad, Let's just say he was not an

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Speaker 2: ardent student, you know, found a way to graduate high

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Speaker 2: school and did fine.

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Speaker 4: But and did fine.

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Speaker 2: Dad, I still remember he gave me the he gave

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Speaker 2: me the he gave me the playbook on multiple choice.

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Speaker 3: He's to go.

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Speaker 2: Look, if you are completely out to lunch on a

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Speaker 2: question that is multiple choice, and there are four choices,

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Speaker 2: here is your rule of thumb. There are two answers

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Speaker 2: hopefully throw those two out. And now you've given yourself

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Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty shot at getting the right answer.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, more often than not, there's at

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Speaker 2: least one answer that is so off the wall you're like, well,

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Speaker 2: and you're like, you know what, that doesn't sound right either.

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Speaker 3: You can get yourself down to two. Now you got

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Speaker 3: a fifty to fifty shot at.

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Speaker 4: It's always the spectrum. They always give you the one

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Speaker 4: I get you.

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Speaker 2: And then if if you are completely in doubt and

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Speaker 2: old mantra in school when in doubt pick C. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know where that came from.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why. It was something that we clung to.

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Speaker 4: Exactly where it came from. Some some guy smoking cigarettes

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Speaker 3: It became well, I'm just gonna say this guy.

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Speaker 4: Like Phonsie in the Happy Days, we're going back to

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Speaker 3: I am just gonna say this.

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Speaker 2: There was a classmate of mine who was not the

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Speaker 2: classroom work was not the priority. So this guy would

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Speaker 2: But he judiciously sprinkled in, sprinkled in, well, maybe more

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Speaker 2: Know how that stuff spreads like wildfire in school, Like, hey, yo,

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Speaker 2: Charlie got an eighty six, didn't study and picked C

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Speaker 3: Every single time. I was like, every single time, think

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Speaker 2: So in a weird way, there is some merit to it,

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Speaker 3: It is gonna be multiple choice. Oh, it's like we

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Speaker 2: Multiple choice was the best answer you could ever hear

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Speaker 2: That's basically what multiple choice gave you. So we will

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Speaker 2: have that for you here in a little bit on

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Speaker 2: the Twitter poll today. But we do have to go

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Speaker 2: system of the Buffalo Bills, and there this is probably

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Speaker 2: not going to surprise anybody, but it looks like Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick is not going to have a head coaching job

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Speaker 2: next year in the NFL. That might be surprising to some.

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Speaker 2: Are you surprised by that? Because there were eight openings,

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's more because of his age or

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Speaker 4: Yeah? In fact, you couldn't have botched mac Jones up

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Speaker 4: Think about this too. When he got the job, you know,

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Speaker 4: Seymour is a Hall of Famer. Richard Hall of Fame

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've I've never been shy about it, but

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Speaker 4: I will say this. I've sat down spoken with Bill

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Speaker 4: They have done this before, though I'm talking about Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he tore his ACL.

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Speaker 4: They're probably better off.

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Speaker 2: But they also make T shirts and they're going to

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Speaker 4: Still enjoying Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and ironically they're going to be making a T

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Speaker 3: Your choices are as.

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Speaker 2: next step, CE, rookie wide receiver production, or D something else.

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Speaker 2: So you can submit your choices on the tweetsheet add

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Speaker 2: one Bill's Live, or you can give us a call

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Speaker 2: aight O three oh five fifty one eight five point fifty.

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Speaker 4: Two given our conversation at the top of the show.

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Speaker 4: So it's C is the correct it could be see

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Speaker 4: if it could be doubt pick C.

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Speaker 3: That's not my choice.

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Speaker 4: What is your choice?

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Speaker 3: Mine's actually the other?

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Speaker 4: What's your what other?

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Speaker 2: I'll let you know in a second here because we've

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Speaker 2: got to get to the phones. At eight oh three

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Speaker 2: five fifty open lines for you. There one eight eight

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty and we lead off

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Speaker 2: with Cindy in Niagara Falls. What do you got for Cindy?

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Speaker 7: Hi, guys. First of all, I want to congratulate coach

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Speaker 7: McDermott for giving off the defensive coordinator thought. I've been

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Speaker 7: saying this for months that he needs to really just

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Speaker 7: concentrate on his team and let somebody else do that

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Speaker 7: he can help out.

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Speaker 8: That's fine.

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Speaker 7: Second of all, I've also been saying with my opinion

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Speaker 7: about von Miller that you know what, God bless him,

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Speaker 7: but he's too old. They got to get the youth

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Speaker 7: in there and get some get some younger players in there.

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Speaker 7: Stefan Diggs, I'm not sure. Do we want to take

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Speaker 7: a chance on him and c if he comes through

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Speaker 7: for next season? I don't know.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 9: I just.

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Speaker 7: I love the Bills, I love you guys, and I

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Speaker 7: just I'm confused on all this is going on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all right, Cindy, We'll try to help iron

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Speaker 2: some stuff out for you there that you got a

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Speaker 2: lot on the list, I would say first concern Digs. Yes,

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Speaker 2: his production for the second straight season dropped off precipitously

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Speaker 2: in the second half of the season. I think it's

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Speaker 2: two things. Primarily one the inability for Buffalo's offense to

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Speaker 2: pull attention away from him to a degree where he

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Speaker 2: can continue to flourish. And then two, I think because

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Speaker 2: the burden was so heavy on him in the first

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Speaker 2: half of the season. I think the guy was flat

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Speaker 2: out exhausted come the second half of the season. The

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Speaker 2: burden was heavy on him in the first half of

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Speaker 2: the season, and to his credit, the dude lived up

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Speaker 2: to it. But come the second half of the season,

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Speaker 2: when he became the focal point of defensive efforts in

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Speaker 2: the passing game, the Bills didn't have enough answers elsewhere

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Speaker 2: to sufficiently pull attention away from him. Now, late in

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Speaker 2: the season, we saw Shakir pull attention away from him.

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Speaker 3: What happens.

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Speaker 2: Look in the Week eighteen game against Miami, seven catches

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Speaker 2: eighty two yards. He suddenly re emerges because there's another

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Speaker 2: threat somewhere else on the field that's pulling enough attention

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Speaker 2: away from him. That has to continue in earnest in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, because let's not forget for the fourth straight

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Speaker 2: season to set a team record, he had over one

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Speaker 2: hundred receptions. Okay, the guy is still very, very, very productive.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that should just be dismissed categorically. So

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Speaker 2: that's that, and you know the work ethic he has.

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Speaker 2: I anticipate him coming back and being productive again this season,

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Speaker 2: but I think you absolutely have to have a talent

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Speaker 2: on this roster come next spring that has the potential

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Speaker 2: in a year's time, maybe sooner to assume the number

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Speaker 2: one receiver role in this offense as Diggs enters his

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Speaker 2: age thirty one season. Second, okay, you asked about von Miller,

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Speaker 2: and also one last thing. You can't get out from

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Speaker 2: under Digg's contract until twenty twenty five. Anyway, the cap

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Speaker 2: hit is too great, and I don't expect him to

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Speaker 2: come back to the negotiating table to renegotiate that deal.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he does and surprises me, but I don't see.

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Speaker 4: Well he'll come back if it's the same money at least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Second, guy von Miller. I understand why people are

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Speaker 2: disenchanted with von Miller. He did not produce coming back

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Speaker 2: from ACL surgery. You're right, he is an older player,

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Speaker 2: but again, this is a player whose contract you really

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Speaker 2: can't get out from under until twenty twenty five. So

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Speaker 2: your best course of action knowing it's unlikely they're going

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Speaker 2: to be able to afford to re sign Leonard Floyd,

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Speaker 2: and may even be unlikely that they're able to resign

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Speaker 2: aj Epanessa.

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Speaker 3: You've got to keep that.

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Speaker 2: Guy because I personally believe he will be more like

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Speaker 2: the old von Miller come this fall when he has

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Speaker 2: had a year and a half removed from the surgery.

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Speaker 2: That's number one and number two. I think you want

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Speaker 2: to see more of younger players. I think you will

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Speaker 2: see that because I think you'll see Kingsley Jonathan get

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Speaker 2: a ton more playing time this coming fall because you

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Speaker 2: can't re signed veterans like Leonard Floyd or perhaps even

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Speaker 2: Ajpiness because they're gonna cost too much money and you

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Speaker 2: don't have the cap space to spend at a position

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Speaker 2: like that, especially with all the holes you have a

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle.

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Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, Vaughn and Steph are not going anywhere. And

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Speaker 4: I think Vaughn, even if he has a kind of

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Speaker 4: the production arc that that Steph had this year, I

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Speaker 4: think that's the floor. I think he's got some I

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Speaker 4: think he's got football in his in his still in

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Speaker 4: the tank. He's got gas in the tank. I think

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Speaker 4: he's gonna play well. He may not be able to

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Speaker 4: put together a seventeen sax season. But I do think

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Speaker 4: he's gonna be very productive in this defense. I think

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Speaker 4: he's got some I think he's got some juice left.

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Speaker 4: I think it's really hard to come back in one

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Speaker 4: and maybe even a little less than one calendar year

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Speaker 4: for the NFL, especially at his age. So I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: thinking he is, you know, gonna ge give the Bills

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Speaker 4: one more year. I think he's gonna try and go

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Speaker 4: out on a high note. I think he's gonna give

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Speaker 4: him everything he's got and he knows too, as well

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Speaker 4: as as the Bills, and we all knew it coming

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Speaker 4: into this when they signed him. This was gonna be

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Speaker 4: the kind of the final year of that deal, and

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna come out and give his best.

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Speaker 4: From what I've seen of Vaughan and what I think

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Speaker 4: about his personality and what he has brought to the

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Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills, you can bet that whatever he has to give,

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Speaker 4: he's gonna throw it out there. So I think he's

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Speaker 4: gonna be a great asset to the team. I think

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Speaker 4: he's gonna be able to play really good football, and

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna finish strong. I think he was

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Speaker 4: it to his career and to himself. So i'm I'm

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be ultramotivated. I think that goes

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Speaker 4: a long way. And I said this during the season.

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Speaker 4: I was not done with Vaughan even this last year,

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Speaker 4: and I thought he was still improving and coming back

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Speaker 4: better and better and better week after week. And you know,

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Speaker 4: unfortunately they ran out a season.

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Speaker 2: And knowing the way he works, I think it's safe

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Speaker 2: to say he's gonna attack the offseason again so he

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Speaker 2: can be back to the von that we have become

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Speaker 2: accustomed to seeing. And then the last thing about Bobby Babbage.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you're excited about Bobby Babbage's defensive coordinator. What

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Speaker 2: we do not have clarity on yet is who's calling

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Speaker 2: the plays. Just because he's been named defensive coordinator, I

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Speaker 2: don't think unilaterally means he's going to be the defensive

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Speaker 2: play caller. I think it's reasonable to assume that, but

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Speaker 2: we don't have clarity on that yet, and we may

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Speaker 2: not for a little bit here, maybe until coach McDermott

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Speaker 2: talks at the pond at the combine. That might be

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Speaker 2: the first time we get clarity on that subject. So

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Speaker 2: that's a bridge that we still have to cross. Eighth

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Speaker 2: three five point fifty one, eight eight eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty. We are wide open for the full

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Speaker 2: two hours for your phone calls. Aside from Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: which player is most important for the Bills offensive success

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Speaker 2: next season?

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Speaker 3: Got open lines for you at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 3: five to fifty.

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Speaker 2: But when we come back, we've got Tom and Dave

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Speaker 2: to get to to lead us off in segment number two.

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Speaker 2: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by co Loid of Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live on a Wednesday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker for

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Speaker 2: with you. Aside from Josh Allen, which player is most

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Speaker 2: important for the Bills offensive success next season? Got choices

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Speaker 2: for you on the Twitter poll. A digs reemergence, B

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Speaker 2: shakir kin Ka taking the next step see rookie wide

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Speaker 2: Receiver production, D something else.

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Speaker 3: And we go back to the phones.

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Speaker 2: But we have open lines for you at eight o

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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty one eighty eight five point fifty

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Speaker 2: two five fifty.

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Speaker 3: But we lead off with Tom on a selle. What

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Speaker 3: do you have for us? Tom?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I just want to say that. You know, when

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Speaker 10: I think about the Bills, and I watched the Chiefs

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Speaker 10: during Baltimore and Buffalo win. Baltimore beat themselves. The Bills

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Speaker 10: beat themselves. The Chiefs did not beat them And when

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Speaker 10: you look and you and you try to figure out why,

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Speaker 10: it's because it's I don't know if it's focused, if

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Speaker 10: it's really understanding situational play. But the Chiefs do not

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Speaker 10: make mistakes. They don't have drop balls, they don't have

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Speaker 10: fall starts, they don't have two defenders in the wrong

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Speaker 10: area or two offensive guys receivers in the same area.

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Speaker 10: So I think that's what I like to see the

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Speaker 10: Bills work on. Because I was listening to oh I

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Speaker 10: think a podcast with on Bill Belichick during the Patriot's

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Speaker 10: Glory Day, and he would when they were in the

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Speaker 10: locker room, he would go to receiver, ball's coming to you.

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Speaker 10: What do you do? The answer been watch it hit

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Speaker 10: my hands before I look, you know, and then he

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Speaker 10: would go to a safety, Hey, there, you know the

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Speaker 10: offenses in this realm, what are you going to do?

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Speaker 10: Or the receivers you see the defense line up in

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Speaker 10: this what are you going to do?

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Speaker 6: It?

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Speaker 10: Was mentally preparing them to play, and when they get

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Speaker 10: off the field, his coordinators, I guess, had to go

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Speaker 10: and see what was done different that series of plays

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Speaker 10: that we weren't expected. So as much as I think

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Speaker 10: we need this and then this, it's still very much

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Speaker 10: a mental game just as much as it is a

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Speaker 10: physical game. And I'd like to see us really focus

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Speaker 10: more on that that mental part of it, so we

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Speaker 10: don't have that drop balls, we don't have these silly mistakes.

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Speaker 10: And you know, Bas can still kick a ball, Dicks

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Speaker 10: can still catch a ball. I just think mentally sometimes

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Speaker 10: we lose focus. I just can't put my finger on

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Speaker 10: and you know, whether it's enough training or what's going

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Speaker 10: on in that area. And I think that's what I'd

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Speaker 10: really like to see more than anything, it's more focused

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Speaker 10: on the mental part of the game.

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Speaker 4: Well you want to because I know we're going to

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Speaker 4: head you and I are going to have the same splight.

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Speaker 4: You're right. We have said for a long time this

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Speaker 4: Bills team is they're really good. The Buffalo Bills are

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Speaker 4: a great football team. So were the Chiefs, So are

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Speaker 4: the Ravens, and so were any other you know, name

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Speaker 4: some others you can name, we can all name him.

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Speaker 4: In fact, the Bills are so good that when you

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Speaker 4: beat him, it's because they helped you. The Bills helped you.

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Speaker 4: The Kansasy Chiefs, and he said, the Chiefs don't listen.

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Speaker 4: The Chiefs help the Bills beat them in the regular

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Speaker 4: season when Canarius Tony lined up off sides and the

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Speaker 4: Chiefs went in for the touchdown that would have won

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Speaker 4: the game. Now it got called back. That's how these

657
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 4: games are so close. That's what it comes down to.

658
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 4: And you're right not beating yourself when the chips are

659
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 4: down and having one of those plays that goes are

660
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: against you because you weren't aware of it. You know,

661
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 4: the Sherefield tipped pass touchdown against Miami in the back

662
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: of the end, so ball goes up in the air,

663
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: he catches it. Not everybody's gonna do that.

664
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Speaker 2: Well, that's proof that you got to be a little

665
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: lucky sometimes, absolutely, And I mean the Niners were lucky

666
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: on Sunday when a ball bounces off at Detroit, Lions

667
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: defenders face mask right into Brandon Ayuk's hands and he

668
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: sets up first and goal on a fifty one yard

669
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: pass play.

670
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: These teams are so close and I get it too.

671
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 4: It's reactionary. We took Paul. I went off on a

672
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 4: guy yesterday. I apologize again for one. You know, hold

673
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 4: finger quotes hohole Dermot McDermot accountable, dude. These games come

674
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: down to one or two or three plays, and a

675
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 4: lot of them are uncontrollable instances. And the stuff you're

676
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 4: saying about Bill Belichick going around saying what do you

677
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 4: do here? What do you do here? What do you

678
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 4: do here? Having specific instructions in certain situations is always,

679
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: you know, the go to in football. There's a lot

680
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 4: of stuff that happens you can't predict, and sometimes, guys,

681
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 4: have you spend your and I remember doing this. You

682
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: spend time thinking about the what ifs, what if this happens?

683
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 4: What am I going to do? And what should be

684
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: the play? What would be the best play? And as

685
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: a pro, it's not like making You don't want to

686
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 4: make the safe play. You want to make the best play.

687
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 4: That's the level that you're at. I remember thinking about

688
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 4: one time, well, what happens if you're coming down to

689
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 4: down up? And this is me. I'm just a special

690
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: teams I'm down the roster. I'm not talking about catching

691
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 4: touchdown passes. I'm talking about down in a punt and

692
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 4: thinking about it, and you think about it, and I thought,

693
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 4: what happens if the thing you got to keep it

694
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 4: out of the end zone? What if it's still in

695
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 4: the air, if you jumped and got a piece of

696
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 4: it and knocked it out and be ready for it?

697
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 4: And I thought about stuff like that, and sure enough,

698
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 4: it happens in a game, and I'm ready for it.

699
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 4: It's a never ending process. And some teams have a

700
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 4: knack for it, or at least maybe not an act,

701
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: but at least have enough wherewithal to take advantage of

702
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 4: certain situations the ball bounces their way, yes, but they're

703
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: also ready for it.

704
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick isn't the only coach that does that.

705
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott starts every single practice every day with the situation.

706
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: He does it for two reasons.

707
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 2: One to present as many of those variables that Steve

708
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: mentioned that could possibly come up in the game so

709
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: players know how to handle it. And he also does

710
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: it right at the beginning of practice, right after stretch.

711
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: Actually does it before stretch now that I think about it,

712
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: first segment of situation and he puts offense and defense

713
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 2: in a certain situation against one another, so that any

714
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: possible variable in a game that could come up, they're

715
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: ready for it. And number two, it gets the brains

716
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 2: turned on right from the beginning of practice.

717
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: Who WHOA, We're in a third and one.

718
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: I got five seconds, no timeouts. I got to figure

719
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: out what I'm doing here. You know, every practice there

720
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 2: is a new situation introduced, and I don't think any

721
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: of them have repeated in the seven years that coach

722
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: McDermott's been the coach here. Why because there are, to

723
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: Steve's point, that many different things that can happen in

724
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: a football game. Yeah, it's a scripted sport, but holy crap,

725
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: are there like a myriad of situations.

726
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: It's I mean, you can't even count them all.

727
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 4: And I keep saying too, I'm gonna see something where

728
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 4: a ball is going out of bound, like, for instance,

729
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 4: a quarterback kind of lobs the ball out of bounds.

730
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 4: If you're on your toes and you're gonna dive out

731
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 4: of bounds, you can catch that, knock it back in,

732
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 4: and catch it and throw it back in before you

733
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: come down out of bounds. It's still a live ball

734
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 4: and you could turn it into an interception. Stuff like

735
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 4: that is what players think about. Like this stuff that

736
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey did in the game, the regular season game

737
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 4: where he threw he's running, caught it and he threw

738
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 4: it sideways. That's that's next level stuff he and he

739
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 4: does that during practice. Guys do that during practice.

740
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Speaker 3: Josh did it too.

741
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: Josh did the same thing with shakiras half tackled. It's

742
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 4: all of that stuff comes from being prepared and thinking

743
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 4: about it, and it happens more than you know. But

744
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: he's it's a good talk call, Tom, because you're right.

745
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 4: Being aware makes makes an okay play in a crucial

746
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: time into a winning play.

747
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: But Patrick Mahomes not only is he extraordinarily gifted physically

748
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: as a quarterback, he's got it between the years and

749
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: knows how to manage situations. That was a one score

750
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: game for like the last quarter and a half or

751
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: the last quarter of that game on Sunday against the Ravens,

752
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: and while he was unable to put more points on

753
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: the board, he never put the Ravens in position to

754
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: make it easier for them to score points and tie

755
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: the game. Never And he had like five possessions in

756
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: the last quarter and a half of the game. They

757
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: couldn't score points, but he didn't hand him any opportunities.

758
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: They were punting it away, punting it away long field,

759
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: long field, didn't turn it over, didn't make a stupid play,

760
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 2: and he is an expert at avoiding the bad play.

761
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: He mitigates risk maybe better than any other quarterback in football,

762
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: and that's why he puts himself in position to be

763
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: in the Ultimate Game four out of the last five years.

764
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 4: It's crazy too, because it almost sounds crazy when you

765
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: talk about it, because all we see from Pat Mahomes

766
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 4: is that you know, the side of the underhand submarine

767
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 4: throw and the side on where he's going out of

768
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 4: bows and he throws it falling away and all the

769
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: crazy played, the no look pass that we saw, all

770
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 4: that stuff that he's done, the left handed pass, it

771
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 4: all seems like, wow, it's really risking it. But it

772
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: you know, he doesn't do it. He turns it. He

773
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 4: never turns it over doing that. It's what I'm saying.

774
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: It's like organized risk, right.

775
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 4: It looks calculated risk, helter skelter, but it's calculated and

776
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: he never he doesn't turn it over and I've said it.

777
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 4: I've said it before and I'll say it again. Everybody

778
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 4: says this about Josh. He turns it over too much.

779
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: That's why he's not the MVP. And Bill's fans will tay.

780
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: And I think people in this building will tell you

781
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 4: if you think he turns it over too much, we'll say, no,

782
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 4: he doesn't, No, he doesn't. He turns it over. Yeah,

783
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: but this is a team that wins playoff games every year.

784
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: There's certainly in the regular season you'll say, hey, man,

785
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 4: he's you know, got it. Yeah, Okay, in fact, it

786
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: may cost you a game here and there. But I'll

787
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 4: tell you what, in the playoffs, he didn't turn it

788
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 4: over once this year. So I mean the guy was money.

789
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: So he's doing what it takes to get you to

790
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: the next step. That's what good players, great players do.

791
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 4: And the difference between the Chiefs, the Baltimore Ravens, the

792
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills and whoever else you want to throw in

793
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 4: there on the AFC side, and of course the rest

794
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 4: of them on the NFC side, they're all right there there.

795
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: Marv Levy used to tell us all the time, guys,

796
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 4: the difference between the number one team in the league,

797
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 4: and the thirty second ranked team in the league is

798
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 4: this much. And he holds his two his thumb and

799
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: his forefinger up like just that far apart, because that's

800
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: the difference between the top team and the bottom team.

801
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 4: But he says, listen, when you're talking about practice and

802
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 4: you're talking about your off season, when you're talking about

803
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 4: your game planning, that that little two percent right there

804
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: is one hundred percent of the difference. And it sounds,

805
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 4: if you know, great when you say it like that.

806
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: It sounds like a new math, but it sounds, but

807
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: it makes sense.

808
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 4: It's there's a there's a lot in that two percent.

809
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 4: And what Tom's calling about about being ready for those

810
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 4: moments at the end of the game when you don't

811
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 4: want to give them an opportunity but you want to

812
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: get every opportunity you can. Those moments are when games

813
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: are won and lost in championships are won and lost.

814
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: Let's squeeze Dave in here in Florida before the break.

815
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 3: What's up, Dave?

816
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 4: Real quick?

817
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 11: I mean, my opinion is, you know, a class the

818
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 11: first class wide receiver to go along with Diggs. And

819
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 11: you know, I watched this and I listen to you

820
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 11: guys all the time, and like you said, Brownie yesterday,

821
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 11: people calling for mc dermott said and stuff like that, ridiculous.

822
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 11: The guy did an amazing job with all the injuries. Yeah,

823
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 11: and you know, just think about it, right, I mean,

824
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 11: if Big shows up at the end of the season

825
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 11: and Vonn doesn't, you know, still lagged from the injury,

826
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 11: there's no way easy three much better. Yeah, and it

827
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 11: just happens, you know. I mean, it's a game, you

828
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 11: know what I mean. I had a knee injury in

829
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 11: high school and it took me more in a year

830
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 11: to recover.

831
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 4: And I was a kid.

832
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 11: I mean at thirty three, we might see the whole

833
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 11: the old vond next year. And but we got to

834
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 11: get some help on that wide receiver thing because I mean,

835
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 11: Big just didn't show up at the end of the season.

836
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 11: I know you say it's tired and all that kind

837
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 11: of stuff, but man, you can't be dropping balls in

838
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 11: a situation. We looked like Kelsey did. He was dropping

839
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 11: balls until what the second or third last game in

840
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 11: the season. Ye Man, he stepping up in the playoffs

841
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 11: and that's what we need. It's a difference. I mean,

842
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 11: it's not McDermott. It's not just it's just being able

843
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 11: to utilize what we got of it performed.

844
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the best way to look at that

845
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: and thank thanks for the call, Dave. I think, and

846
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 4: I know I don't. I don't want to seem like

847
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 4: revisionist history or I'm aw shucks or you know, well

848
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: that's just the way it goes. I think you got

849
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 4: to really realize that's fans because you know, Brownie and

850
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 4: I aren't catching passes, and neither any of our callers.

851
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: I mean we're out there, we're kind of enjoying the

852
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 4: team and watching them. I think that's where you got

853
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 4: to stay with this team. You got to realize how

854
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 4: how awesome it is to have a team that's gonna

855
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: have another shot this coming year. You're not This team

856
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: ain't going away. Despite all the free agency, the cap problems,

857
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: the free agents, all the stuff that's going this team

858
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 4: is gonna be there again next year.

859
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: I really believe that the difference is there are fans

860
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: out there that want to guarantee, and in sports, no

861
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: matter what sport it is, there are no guarantees. Because

862
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: going back to Steve's point at the start of this segment.

863
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: There are too many variables that exist in sports to

864
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: guarantee anything, no matter how good you are. And that's

865
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: just the facts. And if you can't sign up for that,

866
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna be very hard for you to be a.

867
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: Happy fan, right, very hard for you, it really.

868
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, got to take a break here.

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Speaker 2: But when we come back, more of your phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Elliott and Rochester, Steve and Amherst are up next here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by co Loid of Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio, all right, asking you today, aside

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Speaker 2: from Josh Allen, which player is most important for the

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Speaker 2: Bill's offensive success next season. Choices are there on the

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Speaker 2: tweets sheet at One Bill's Live. But we go back

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Speaker 2: to the phones and to Elliott in Rochester next, what's

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Speaker 2: up Elliott, Hey.

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Speaker 12: Christ and Steve, thanks for taking my call. Sure, so,

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00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 12: looking at the offense, I mean this year I was

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00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 12: at both playoff games the Bills with the weapons they have,

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Speaker 12: and it'll be great to add more. They've shown the

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00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 12: ability to work down the field, run the ball, hit

883
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 12: those short passes to secure Kincaid. I love the scheme

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Speaker 12: that Brady's got. But when we think back to the

885
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 12: past two three, four years in the playoffs, it pretty

886
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 12: much always comes down to one thing, and that's the defense.

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00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 12: We haven't really been able to generate turnovers. I'm hoping

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00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 12: with Bobby as a new DC, him and Sean can

889
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 12: can scheme up with what they got in the defense.

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Speaker 12: But think about how many games we've lost when it

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00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 12: was so close. I mean, Josh Allen, the offense, they

892
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Speaker 12: always found a way to get points on the board.

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Speaker 12: I mean, you go a few years back, Casey put

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Speaker 12: up over thirty points. Yeah, they had a high powered offense,

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Speaker 12: but you know, if you're letting up over thirty points,

896
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 12: it's hard to win a game. We think to the

897
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Speaker 12: thirteen seconds game, right that came down the defense right

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Speaker 12: there at the end, and then in overtime. Yeah, the

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Speaker 12: defense was tired too this year versus case I mean,

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Speaker 12: people are upset about the fake punk call, but we think,

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00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 12: you know, what might that say about the confidence in

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00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 12: the defense and their ability to make a stop. You know,

903
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 12: I mean in last year when when the Bengals come out,

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00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 12: they put up fourteen points back to back touchdowns in.

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Speaker 13: The first quarter. I mean, that's severely difficult to come

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Speaker 13: back from. So at the end of the day, I

907
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 13: mean Josh Allen and the pieces that he has, he's

908
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Speaker 13: always gonna be able to get something done. But really

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00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 13: it comes down to the defense. Always haven't like needing

910
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 13: that clutch answer when it counts, you know. So it's

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Speaker 13: just the best teams in the league. We look back

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Speaker 13: last year, it was the Eagles and the Chiefs in

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Speaker 13: the Super Bowl. A few years back, Tom Brady, Tampa

914
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Speaker 13: Bay had an incredible defense, and then this year and

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Speaker 13: if you look the Ravens were toward the end, Casey

916
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Speaker 13: toward the end in the forty nine ers. Those are

917
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Speaker 13: three of the best defenses in the league. So everyone

918
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Speaker 13: loves offense because it's flashy. We've got great weapons. It'll

919
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Speaker 13: be great to add more, but really it's gonna come

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Speaker 13: down to defense to get the Bills over the hump.

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Speaker 13: I was just curious about your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a top five defense until they had injuries.

923
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, had bad injury, they had poorly.

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Speaker 2: Injuries never come at a good time, But losing your

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Speaker 2: starting middle linebacker before the AFC Divisional Playoff is a

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Speaker 2: little problematic, especially when you've already lost your all Pro

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Speaker 2: for the season back in Week five, who plays the

928
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Speaker 2: weak side linebacker position, and then you don't have bailn Specter,

929
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Speaker 2: who's your fourth linebacker, and your third linebacker, Tyrrel Dotson

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Speaker 2: is coming back from an injury to play. So the

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Speaker 2: guy that's starting next to him a veteran but was

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Speaker 2: sitting on his couch two weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's a factor for every single team,

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Speaker 4: no question about it. You've got to overcome injuries in

935
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Speaker 4: the NFL to to get there and be able to

936
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Speaker 4: either overcome them or not be struck with them. And

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Speaker 4: you don't get a pick where they happen, so you

938
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Speaker 4: get and think about it. Most of you know, the

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Speaker 4: significant injuries the Bill suffered were on one side of

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Speaker 4: the football. Yeah, you know, so all of a sudden,

941
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Speaker 4: you it's kind of lopsided and you're putting more pressure

942
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Speaker 4: on offense now, albeit at a healthy offense, but an

943
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Speaker 4: offense all the same that has to carry the load

944
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Speaker 4: down the stretch. This defense under Sean McDermott I was

945
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Speaker 4: really encouraged by because, as we thought in the offseason,

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Speaker 4: Brownie and I talked about a week after week after

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Speaker 4: week through you know when Sean McDermott made the move

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Speaker 4: and he was going to call the plays through, you know, March, April, May, June, July, August.

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Speaker 4: We kept saying, while the defense was extremely well ranked

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Speaker 4: and highly ranked under Leslie Frasier, it missed big plays,

951
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Speaker 4: it didn't get turnovers, it didn't get sacked, those those

952
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Speaker 4: splash plays. Under McDermott, it did that this year to

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Speaker 4: a much higher degree, a noticeably higher degree, and that

954
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Speaker 4: was really encouraging.

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Speaker 3: They were in the top five in both categories sacksaw.

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Speaker 4: And that I think is a much better spot to

957
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Speaker 4: be in going forward, because I don't you're right, because

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Speaker 4: I think you're right, Elliott. Splash plays, just when you

959
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: need it, are the thing that puts you over the hump,

960
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Speaker 4: game changing plays. You can go back and look at

961
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Speaker 4: all the other games that have happened the Chiefs, you know,

962
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Speaker 4: picking the ball off in the end zone, then you

963
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 4: know had a Chief guy, You had a Chiefs player

964
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Speaker 4: dropping a dead stone cold interception before that. So those

965
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Speaker 4: kind of plays, along with sacks and all of that stuff,

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Speaker 4: those are the kind of plays you need. I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: kind of with Brownie on this, and I think we're

968
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Speaker 4: in the same kind of conversation. Yeah, you need a

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Speaker 4: solid defense, but what you really need is a turnover

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Speaker 4: and sack defense because this the league is built for offense. Right,

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Speaker 4: There's two things. There's a couple of things. You needed,

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Speaker 4: turnovers and sacks, and you need a defense that really

973
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Speaker 4: tackles well the first guy to the ball, the guys

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Speaker 4: on the ground, the first player that gets to the

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Speaker 4: guy with the ball, the guys on the ground. You

976
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Speaker 4: look at Baltimore Ravens defense, the Chiefs defense, that was

977
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Speaker 4: their most glaring characteristic When a defensive player got to

978
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Speaker 4: the guy with the ball, the guy with the ball

979
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 4: went down. And that's unchanging. If you can do that,

980
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 4: if you can turn turnovers and get some sacks and

981
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: just first guy to the ball makes a tackle, you're

982
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Speaker 4: gonna be really an elite defense. And I think that's

983
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Speaker 4: what serves you well in the playoffs. To your point, Elliott,

984
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 4: you don't need you don't need five turnovers in a game,

985
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 4: but you do need one at the right time, you know.

986
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Speaker 4: And that's what the Chiefs and the Ravens and Niners

987
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 4: and the Lions, and you know certainly the Lions are

988
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 4: that because you know their defense was wasn't even ranked

989
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 4: that well, but you know they did enough. So the

990
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 4: problem is a lot of that is unplanned. You know,

991
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 4: it's the chaos of the game. You guy punches it

992
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 4: out at the right time.

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Speaker 2: You know, got to take a break here at the

994
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Speaker 2: top of the hour. Steve, Sorry, we did not get

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Speaker 2: to you in this segment. You will lead us off

996
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Speaker 2: an hour number two if you want to hang through

997
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: and others at eighth three, five point fifty as we

998
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 2: are wide open for calls and hour number two we'll

999
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Speaker 2: get to you and you return here on One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Callida Health.

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00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: All right, our number two here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

1003
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you want to get right back to

1004
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 2: the phones where we're taking your calls on what you

1005
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: believe is the most important player besides Josh Allen for

1006
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: the Bill's offensive success next season. We've got choices for

1007
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: you in our Twitter poll at One Bill's Live on

1008
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: Twitter or x whatever you call it nowadays. But we

1009
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Speaker 2: are going to go to the phones first at eight

1010
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: oh three, five point fifty and to Steve and Amhersta's promise.

1011
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: Thanks for waiting, Steve, what do you got for us?

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00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 14: Hello, gentlemen, I hope you're having a good day. For

1013
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 14: your poll there, I would say Cook is the next

1014
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 14: most valuable player. But my first question is what the

1015
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 14: Bills get a compensatory pick for Washington going over? Is

1016
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 14: the offensive or defensive coordinator to Chicago. I read somewhere

1017
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 14: that sometimes you can get up an extra pick if

1018
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 14: a coach goes to another team.

1019
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 2: I believe that's to only be a head coach, Steve,

1020
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: So if you lose a minority coach from your staff

1021
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: who becomes a head coach elsewhere, or a front office

1022
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: person who becomes a general manager elsewhere, you would get

1023
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: a third round compensatory pick for two years, but not

1024
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Speaker 2: for a coordinator position to my knowledge.

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00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 14: Okay, and my second question is, you know, ever since

1026
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 14: Marv Levy came on board, special teams was always a

1027
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 14: premium for the team. And you know, the couple of

1028
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 14: years ago when the thirteen second fiasco, you know, they

1029
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 14: fired the special teams coordinator, you know, almost immediately, and

1030
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Speaker 14: he really only made one or two gaffs. But the

1031
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 14: current guy, Smiley, I mean this has to be the

1032
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 14: worst special team season I can remember in a very

1033
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 14: very long time, and no movement for improving. You know,

1034
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 14: the coach for special teams, and as Steve alluded to earlier,

1035
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Speaker 14: they're you know, teaching guys to you know, jump up

1036
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Speaker 14: and try and get the ball, bat the ball. You

1037
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Speaker 14: know a lot of stuff's off coaching and positioning, and

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Speaker 14: you know, this year it's just tof the ask all

1039
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 14: as far as I concern, like to hear your guys' opinion.

1040
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Speaker 3: Thank you, all right, thanks Steve.

1041
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: First things first, Heath Farwell is a special teams coordinator

1042
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: to whom you're referring to. After the loss in the

1043
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: divisional playoff in at the end of the twenty twenty

1044
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Speaker 2: one season January twenty twenty two.

1045
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Speaker 3: He was not fired. It was more of a mutual parting.

1046
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Speaker 2: His contract was up with the Bills, and basically all

1047
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Speaker 2: indications that I came to understand was that was a

1048
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 2: mutual parting. He wanted an opportunity elsewhere and took a

1049
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Speaker 2: lateral move to go to Jacksonville. To my knowledge, it

1050
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Speaker 2: was never described or portrayed as an outright firing. So

1051
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Speaker 2: that's first. Second we have mentioned it special teams play

1052
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: was very uneven this season. There were some good moments.

1053
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Speaker 2: I mean, Tyler Bass was Special Teams Player of the

1054
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Speaker 2: Month in September. Sam Martin was Special Teams Player of

1055
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Speaker 2: the Month in December. But there were a lot of

1056
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Speaker 2: places in between blocked kicks, you know, blocked punts, long

1057
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Speaker 2: returns against Week to win the game in overtime, and

1058
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Speaker 2: that wasn't the only one. Buffalo's return game really didn't

1059
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Speaker 2: have or offer much aside from Deontay Hardy's you know,

1060
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Speaker 2: punt return for a touchdown in Week eighteen. So yeah,

1061
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Speaker 2: there was a lot of uneven play through the course

1062
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Speaker 2: of the year on special teams and at times it

1063
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Speaker 2: cost them. There were there were some weeks they could

1064
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Speaker 2: not flip the field and the hidden yardage that Sean

1065
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Speaker 2: McDermott talks about all the time on special teams was

1066
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Speaker 2: missing and it cost them some games. Knowing how many

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Speaker 2: close games the Bills were in this.

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Speaker 4: Season, yeah, yes, there. Special teams were noticeable on too

1069
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Speaker 4: many occasions for the wrong reasons this year, and to

1070
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Speaker 4: our knowledge, nothing, you know, they're not going to make

1071
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Speaker 4: any changes on that staff. We know that Coach Harkey

1072
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Speaker 4: was interviewed to be his own special teams coordinator. He's

1073
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Speaker 4: the assistants coordinator right now here in Buffalo, and he

1074
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Speaker 4: got a job to interview for a special teams coordinator

1075
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Speaker 4: in another position on another team this year. So I'm

1076
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Speaker 4: kind of with you. I was really disappointed at Mega,

1077
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Speaker 4: disappointed in something. You think about the twelve men on

1078
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Speaker 4: the field for the Denver game, it cost him a

1079
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Speaker 4: chance to win it. Plays like that, just you know,

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Speaker 4: that's those are the ones that crush you. And that's

1081
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 4: two plays right there who that would have won games

1082
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: for you that that are directly contributed to special teams.

1083
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 4: And you can tell which one special teams still count

1084
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 4: Tyler Bass missing the last field goal against the Chiefs

1085
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 4: counts as a special teams miss. So it's you know,

1086
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 4: there's three games off the top of your head that

1087
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 4: were directly affected by special teams. Now you know, there's

1088
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 4: plenty of times when Tyler Bass made the kicks as well,

1089
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 4: so those count as positives. And there's other positives like

1090
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 4: the the Deontay Hardy return, that kind of stuff, so

1091
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: ton of a ton, and there was turn turnovers like

1092
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: the they come back and they get the opening kickoff

1093
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 4: fumble recovery against was it Dallas? They get that in

1094
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 4: opening kickoff where they come down and just light the

1095
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 4: guy up. The Jets, the Jets, the first Jet, the

1096
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 4: second Jet game, the Jet game here in Orchard Park.

1097
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 4: They open it up with a turnover. So as good

1098
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 4: as it as bad as it was at times, and

1099
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 4: it was bad, That's why I called just as good.

1100
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 4: I mean it was up down even was a good

1101
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 4: way to It was a roller coaster, a roller coaster,

1102
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 4: very inconsistent. So yeah, I'm I'm kind of with you.

1103
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 4: I think that needs to be. They need to get consistency,

1104
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 4: if nothing else.

1105
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: Back to the phones and to Mark in Jersey City next, what's.

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00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 15: Up Mark, Good afternoon, gentlemen. Yeah, the long term pain

1107
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 15: for momentary decisions, that's that's just football. And you see,

1108
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 15: like you guys said that, you know you're going to

1109
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 15: be a miserable sports fan if you sit there, and

1110
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 15: you know, because we live in such a TikTok usually

1111
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 15: satiated world now where it's just scroll on to the

1112
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 15: next thing or press the reset button. If the Xbox

1113
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 15: game isn't going the way you like it, that's that's

1114
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 15: not real life. You know, growing up in boxing. If

1115
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 15: you didn't do the right thing, you paid with pain.

1116
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 15: Steve can tell you the scheduled pain is like no other.

1117
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 15: You guys were talking about facts and turnovers.

1118
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 4: In the game.

1119
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 16: I believe there's a Mahomes has a string of four

1120
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 16: to five games, or he hasn't been sacked or turned

1121
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 16: the ball over in any playoff game. Played an Eagles

1122
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 16: team in the Super Bowl that had seventy sacks. The

1123
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 16: Ravens led the league in turnovers, and they didn't get

1124
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 16: to him. They couldn't They couldn't turn him over. It's

1125
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 16: it's I look at it. It's like I said, I

1126
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 16: grew up in boxing. Manny Paccio had four fights with

1127
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 16: a guy named Oneman. While Marquez beat him the first

1128
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 16: three times, Ashley drew him the first time after he

1129
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 16: knocked him down the first time four times, and that

1130
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 16: guy was able to fight him to a draw. In

1131
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 16: order to beat this guy like like Marquez did the

1132
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 16: fourth time, you're gonna have to knock him out, and

1133
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 16: that's what he did. He knocked him cold in the

1134
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 16: fourth round. They're gonna just have to out run them

1135
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 16: out of the gym and outscore them. Don't focus on

1136
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 16: taking the ball over or sacking him. Just if they

1137
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 16: put up thirty five, we're gonna put up forty five.

1138
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think Mahomes has proven to everybody

1139
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: over the years that's stopping him as a monumental issue.

1140
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: So how do you best combat that? Well, nobody with

1141
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: a defense, including the Ravens last week with the number

1142
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: one defense in football, number one in points allowed, they

1143
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: weren't able to do it either. You got to have

1144
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: an offense that's better than theirs. Yet again, why my

1145
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: argument remains, draft two receivers on the first two days

1146
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: of the draft.

1147
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 3: That's a dollar get more weapons.

1148
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 4: That's a dollar for Mark from Jersey City, And I'm

1149
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 4: happy to applied receiver train. You're right, you you prepare

1150
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 4: to defeat the opponent you've got to defeat to win

1151
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 4: the championship. Now, certainly most teams fault prey to you know,

1152
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 4: a quarterback like Josh and the offense that is gonna get.

1153
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 4: But you know, you got to prepare for a team

1154
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 4: like Kansas City. And and let's face it, we've seen it.

1155
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 4: We've seen it, and nobody wants to talk about it.

1156
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 4: They all wanted to fire the coach or change offensive

1157
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 4: coordinators change, defensive coordinators, fire, the special teams coordinator. They

1158
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 4: want to make all these rast changes. But the simple

1159
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 4: fact of the matter is you, no matter what changes

1160
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 4: you make, even when those changes are perfect, you got

1161
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 4: to hit on all cylinders on that day against that

1162
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 4: team and hope they don't make plays against you, and

1163
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 4: you hope they're not hitting on all cylinders, because if

1164
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 4: they are, you may not be good enough. Anyway. You

1165
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 4: gotta you got to go in with the idea that

1166
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to play well on that day, better

1167
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 4: than that other team, and you got to make them

1168
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 4: play worse than their best. That's what your job is.

1169
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 4: And and these these teams are all they're all they're

1170
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 4: all like right there, all of them are on the

1171
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 4: same level. Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City, they're all right there. Cincinnati,

1172
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 4: when Joe Burrow is healthy, they're all right there. And

1173
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 4: you've got to make a couple of plays at the

1174
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 4: right moment in those games to give you a chance

1175
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 4: to pull out the pull pull out a win. The

1176
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 4: frustrating part is it is that sometimes it seems like

1177
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 4: that same team is the only team that's able to

1178
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 4: do that. And that's that's the the the fine, the

1179
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 4: minute detail that it's hard to quantify and get your

1180
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 4: mind around what that exactly is. What is that thing?

1181
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 4: What is that fact? Some people say, wow, you gotta

1182
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 4: fire your offensive going, fire your head coach, sell the team,

1183
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 4: fire everybody. Yeah whatever, Yeah, it for for that, for

1184
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 4: for like the width of a human hair is the difference,

1185
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 4: and it's and even if you do all of that,

1186
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 4: there's no guarantees that that little final, litle thing doesn't widen.

1187
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 4: You know, it's not just now becomes small problems. Yes,

1188
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 4: it becomes the Mississippi River rather than a human hair.

1189
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 4: That's the difference. And you know, because that's where some

1190
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 4: of these teams have got to be thinking they are right.

1191
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 4: I mean you look, I mean you look. You look

1192
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 4: at that. You look at these teams and you think

1193
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 4: you think the New England Patriots are sitting there right

1194
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 4: now thinking they're that close. Where the bills are? You think,

1195
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 4: you know Tennessee or the Jets. You think they're the Jets.

1196
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 4: You know you've heard you they they can convince themselves.

1197
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: They're like Aaron Rodgers away from doing that. Well, they're

1198
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 4: gonna have a thirty six year old quarterback who's gonna

1199
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 4: run out of gas in about a month of the

1200
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 4: regular season or get hurt again. You know, there's some

1201
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 4: of these teams that just seem like they're a million

1202
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 4: miles with Carolina, Arizona, Washington, the Giants. You think these

1203
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 4: teams think they're right there. They're not firing anybody, and

1204
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 4: they went four two and fifteen Carolina did they're firing everybody.

1205
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 4: You think they're gonna go. You think they're gonna go

1206
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 4: fifteen and two next year. It's not you don't. You're

1207
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 4: throwing the baby out with the bath water. You gotta

1208
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 4: it's that. It's just give yourself the chance to make

1209
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 4: that much of a difference. Don't tear your house down

1210
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 4: to the studs when all you need to do is

1211
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 4: paint the front door.

1212
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get back to the phones and to guy

1213
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: in north Tonawanda.

1214
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 3: What's up, guy, Guy? You're there? Oh, Guy, you're on, buddy.

1215
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 4: No, we lost him, lost guy. Guys gone.

1216
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 2: Let's go to Nolan up north of the border in Canada.

1217
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: What do you got first, Nolan?

1218
01:03:59,400 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 8: Oh?

1219
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 17: God, big end of the show. Thanks for having me on.

1220
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 17: I just wanted to talk about the defense a little bit.

1221
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 17: I think that Sean McDermott did a really good job

1222
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 17: with the players he had this year, considering all the injuries.

1223
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 17: But I feel like, when it comes down to it,

1224
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 17: a guy was just talking about it the defense. It's

1225
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 17: not gonna win me the game. You got to score

1226
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 17: more points than the other team. But I think that

1227
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 17: we could sell out a little bit more and blitz

1228
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 17: a little bit more. I felt like we blitzed a

1229
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 17: lot less than a lot of other teams in the playoffs,

1230
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 17: and I think we're a bit too concerned with not losing,

1231
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 17: but we need to be more concerned with winning by

1232
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 17: trying to go for a blitz and sell out a

1233
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 17: little bit.

1234
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: Because yeah, Nolan, with all due respect, I'm sorry, do

1235
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 2: you have something else?

1236
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 8: Well no, no, no, go ahead, Okay, yeah, with.

1237
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: All due respect, I think Sean McDermott was playing with

1238
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: half a deck, and even when he played with half

1239
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: a deck, he was bl blitzing more than he usually did,

1240
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: or more than this defense had in years past. That's factual.

1241
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: I still think about the Eagles game. Okay, the Eagles

1242
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 2: game is a close game. His defense cannot stop them

1243
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: at all. I mean, they're just rolling over the defense

1244
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: who still at that point did not have day Kwon

1245
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: Jones Man milanoil for the season, and as we know,

1246
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 2: Trudevius white out. I think they were missing somebody else too, maybe.

1247
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 3: Hide or I might have been out of the lineup

1248
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 3: that week. I can't remember.

1249
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: The point I'm making is Sean McDermott still called blitzes.

1250
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, he called two zero blitzes,

1251
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: one of which came on the final possession of the

1252
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: game in overtime for the Eagles. He calls a zero

1253
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: blitz and they beat it with a fifteen yard pass play.

1254
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 2: He went in the bag and tried to use everything

1255
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: he could and it still didn't work because they were

1256
01:05:56,080 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: that shorthanded. Now go into a playoff game against Patrick

1257
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: Mahomes with your fifth and sixth linebackers starting and your

1258
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: fourth and fifth corners starting on the outside.

1259
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 3: Do you want blitz be more aggressive in a tight game?

1260
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: I mean they held it together with staples and duct

1261
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: tape on defense when they got to the playoffs, after

1262
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 2: Bernard went out of the lineup, and after Douglas is

1263
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: playing dragging a leg around and probably shouldn't have played.

1264
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, they probably should have just started Elan and

1265
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,479
Speaker 2: gone healthy instead of with a player that they trusted more.

1266
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 2: You can't be that aggressive when you don't have bullets

1267
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: in the chamber. It's really hard. So I respect what

1268
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: you're saying, and I think McDermott one of the main

1269
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: reasons he took over play calling for the defense was

1270
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: to be more aggressive, and he was. Look at their

1271
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: blitz percentage in twenty twenty two compared to twenty twenty three,

1272
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,919
Speaker 2: and despite missing a number of starters throughout the sea

1273
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball, they were still

1274
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: more aggressive.

1275
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would just echo what Brownie said, Yeah you

1276
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 4: want this defense was vastly more aggressive than it had

1277
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 4: been under Leslie Fraser. They got more turnovers as a result,

1278
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 4: they got more sacks as a result, they were more

1279
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 4: splashy defense. Certainly, their overall rankings probably dropped a little bit,

1280
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 4: and mostly not so much of the philosophy of blitzing

1281
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 4: and being more aggressive, but mostly because of the injuries.

1282
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 4: I mean they made a trade for a starting corner

1283
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 4: during the season. That they made a trade, I mean,

1284
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 4: that's how bad it got. So they yeah, I'm with you.

1285
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 4: You can pick it apart if you want at the

1286
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 4: end of the season. But I have no problem with

1287
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 4: the aggressiveness of the you know, the philosophy of the

1288
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 4: defense coming down the stretch, even in the playoffs. You're right, Uh,

1289
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 4: this is a it's a game. It's about scoring more

1290
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Speaker 4: points than the other team. I guess I get that,

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01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, I disagree. I thought they were as aggressive

1292
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 4: as they could be they could possibly be, and I

1293
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 4: think they forced the hand of a couple of offenses,

1294
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 4: particularly down the stretch in that run down towards the

1295
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 4: end of the season, that gave him a chance to win.

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Speaker 2: And if you want further proof of that, just look

1297
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 2: at what all the quarterbacks said in the week leading

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01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 2: up to playing the Bills. They talked ad nauseum about

1299
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 2: the simulated pressures and how they didn't know where pressure

1300
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: was coming from in the Bills defensive front. Why because

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01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 2: it was frequent and it was varied, certainly more than

1302
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 2: it had been in years past. And it wasn't because

1303
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 2: they couldn't generate pressure with their front four, which had

1304
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 2: also been a problem in past years. It's because McDermott

1305
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 2: wanted to be more unpredictable, not just more aggressive, but

1306
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 2: more unpredictable as well, and I think Mission accomplished in

1307
01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 2: that category despite being shorthanded for the entire season on

1308
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball due to injury.

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01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 4: I think one of the things that has characterized McDermott

1310
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 4: not just defensively, but offensively and in totality, this coaching

1311
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 4: staff with McDermott has overachieved with the talent they've been given.

1312
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 4: They've been given great talent, no question, but they've won

1313
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 4: playoff games every year. That's hard to do. They're the

1314
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 4: only team that's done it other than Kansas City. They're

1315
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 4: the only team that's been able to do that. They

1316
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 4: certainly have some great players and they have maximized him.

1317
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 4: They and they prove they can do that from the

1318
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 4: first year he was here, when they took the Rex

1319
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,839
Speaker 4: Ryan roster and went straight to the playoffs after nobody

1320
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 4: for seventeen years could do that. They did it with

1321
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,959
Speaker 4: the same guys and Tyrod Taylor was a playoff quarterback.

1322
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 4: I mean it's I mean, they know how to get

1323
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 4: the most out of a roster. They prove it time

1324
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 4: and time again, and they have been consistent in that.

1325
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 4: You can say what you want about though they couldn't

1326
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 4: get over them. Listen, We've seen it last year. This

1327
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 4: year as well, they got back to that spot. And

1328
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 4: in a year where you were in an I'll say

1329
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 4: it again, they're in an arms race. Just like Nolan

1330
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 4: from Canada said, you got to score more points than people.

1331
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 4: They're still they need another weapon. They're gonna they're gonna

1332
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 4: draft them, They're gonna get some guys, but they got

1333
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 4: to give Josh Allen more weapons because they got to

1334
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 4: score more points. That's where they're at. And even in

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01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 4: a year where they thought they might have and they

1336
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 4: didn't quite get it done, they still got back to

1337
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 4: the playoffs and and in a dog fight in the

1338
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 4: divisional round with a team that's in the super Bowl,

1339
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 4: they are. I mean, you gotta know that this is

1340
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 4: a team that is going to continue to be right

1341
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 4: there and have another chance to go. And that's what

1342
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 4: you really ask for. There's no guarantees, but man oh man,

1343
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 4: this is a team that you got to deal with.

1344
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 4: And so I'm I'm I'm with Brownie on this one.

1345
01:10:54,880 --> 01:11:01,440
Speaker 4: I'm totally thinking that, you know, I'm they've earned the

1346
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt that they're going to spin this

1347
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 4: and get this roster and maximize it.

1348
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 3: Let's go to William and Elmwood. I believe it is

1349
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 3: what's up William?

1350
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, Elmwood Village hate that afternoon, guys. So the most

1351
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 6: important player that I feel we need to see improvement

1352
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 6: out of, and or the most important player not necessarily

1353
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 6: improvement James Cook. I think if our offensive coordinator, the

1354
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 6: new one that we just signed, can find a way

1355
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:41,480
Speaker 6: to utilize him more. And I also think Dalton Kincaid

1356
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 6: is another important player to consider as the most important

1357
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 6: moving forward. And of course what you guys just talked about.

1358
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 6: Can we find another player to contribute on offense, a

1359
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 6: wide out maybe in the draft?

1360
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would agree to any and all

1361
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: of that. William, I told Steve earlier in the show.

1362
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: You know, on the Twitter poll where the choices are,

1363
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,440
Speaker 2: you know which player is most important? A digs reemergence,

1364
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 2: B shakir Kin k taking the next step see rookie

1365
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 2: wide receiver production D other. I picked other because my

1366
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: other is James Cook. I think he's got to get

1367
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 2: a little bit better hanging on to the ball.

1368
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 3: In the end zone.

1369
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 2: As you know Steve has mentioned he probably would have

1370
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: had three more receiving touchdowns if he caught those this season,

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Speaker 2: and who knows what that does to the final tally.

1372
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 2: But I think everything you saw proved that he can

1373
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 2: be a feature back for your offense going forward, and

1374
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 2: I would expect that to continue in a big way,

1375
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: and from the very beginning of the season, because if

1376
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: you remember, James Cook really didn't take off until about

1377
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 2: week seven eight somewhere in there, and he still finishes

1378
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: with over fifteen hundred yards from scrimmage. He's in the

1379
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: top five in total yards from scrimmage for running backs,

1380
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: and the only guy that had more rushing yards than him,

1381
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 2: I think was McCaffrey. So that's a damn good year

1382
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: for a second year player. And if he keeps going

1383
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: on the ascent, you know, and then you can add

1384
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: some rookie receiver production, you're really gonna have something there

1385
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: and maybe you can just flat out score.

1386
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 4: The Chiefs and you're yeah, and you asked if they

1387
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 4: can do it, and say, yeah, I think yes they can.

1388
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 4: They're gonna it's priority one. They're gonna get a dude

1389
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 4: to line up on the other side of Diggs so

1390
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 4: that you know, if Diggs does get another one hundred

1391
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 4: and eight targets or one hundred and fifteen targets or

1392
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty targets. He's not gonna have two

1393
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 4: guys on him every time the ball comes to him,

1394
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 4: and you need another guy who's gonna get it over

1395
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 4: one hundred targets as well on the other side of him,

1396
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 4: somebody who can really really attract some attention. Everybody's gonna

1397
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 4: it's a ripple effect that's easy to understand. You know,

1398
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 4: the more guys you've got that are dangerous, the thinner

1399
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 4: the defense has spread, and the easier it is to

1400
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 4: find weaknesses. It's just that simple. And it's and I

1401
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 4: would say, yes, there's absolutely no question the Bills are

1402
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 4: going to make a big time effort to get a

1403
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 4: guy on the other side of Diggs.

1404
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 2: Break time for us here, but more of your phone

1405
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: calls when we come back. Bill in Cheek to Waga,

1406
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,799
Speaker 2: Rich and Buffalo guy on a sale, Mark and West Seneca.

1407
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 3: Hang tight.

1408
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 2: We'll do our best to get to all for you

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01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 2: when we return here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned,

1410
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 2: man back here on One Bill's Live on a Wednesday,

1411
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 2: and right back to the phones we go, and to

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01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 2: Bill and cheek to waga.

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01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 4: What's up? Bill?

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01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 8: Hey, Hi, how you doing guys? Thanks for taking my call.

1415
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 8: Appreciate the job that both you guys do every day.

1416
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,839
Speaker 8: And my most important person, I think is Mitch Morris

1417
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 8: and what he does with the offensive line and keeping

1418
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 8: them guys on the same page. So I just want

1419
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 8: to listen to your comment and it'll be great.

1420
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank thank for sure.

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01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 2: Uh, thank you Bill, the guy they called Dad, Yeah,

1422
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: he's he's good there in the pivot. You know, put

1423
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 2: together another good season with two new guards on either

1424
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: side of them, which is not nothing. And I think

1425
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 2: what is going to benefit the offensive line the most

1426
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 2: going into next year is the fact that they got

1427
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: seventeen regular season games and two playoff games together without

1428
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 2: anybody missing time at least for a play here or there.

1429
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: Nobody missed a start. That is exceedingly rare in this league.

1430
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 2: And I would be stunned if they're fortunate enough to

1431
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: keep all five guys healthy for the entire season next year.

1432
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 2: But I think it it was very beneficial having them

1433
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: healthy all season because I think it allowed them to

1434
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 2: gel quicker knowing you had two new guards in the

1435
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: mix this season.

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01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's we've talked about it a little bit,

1437
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 4: not at a link, because it's just, you know, it's

1438
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 4: kind of this given you got these five guys that

1439
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 4: went in there and played extremely well, particularly with Connor

1440
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 4: McGovern being a young dude coming in being the biggest

1441
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 4: free agent signing the Bills had in the offseason. Then

1442
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 4: a high draft pick and Osirius Torrens coming in and

1443
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 4: plugging into the guards. And then you got Mitch Morris,

1444
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 4: who's the veteran in the two tackles, one of which

1445
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 4: on the right side. Well, actually both of them had

1446
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 4: their best seasons, or at least Dawkins one of his

1447
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 4: best seasons, and certainly the best season for Spencer Brown.

1448
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 4: That's a great place to start with. You've got an

1449
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 4: elite quarterback behind him, and a running back who's in

1450
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 4: a second year who just finished his second year as

1451
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 4: a breakout player on the entire offense. You got a

1452
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 4: slot receiver in Khalil Shakir who has had the highest

1453
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 4: catch rate of any wide out in the entire National

1454
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 4: Football League. You got a number one draft pick in

1455
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 4: Dalton kin Kaid, who set the rookie season record and

1456
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 4: the receiving record for the franchise in his rookie season

1457
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 4: for a tight end. That's let's face, we're going to

1458
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 4: spend the entire offseason taking his whole offense for granted,

1459
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 4: and hoping they can get one other guy on the

1460
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 4: other side of Diggs to be the guy to please.

1461
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 4: You don't have room for one. So you got one

1462
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 4: guy on the field over there, at least maybe two

1463
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 4: as a bad one as a bat whatever. Yeah, you

1464
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 4: gotta have a That's that's it. On that entire side

1465
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 4: of the ball. You're ready to go with one draft pick,

1466
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 4: probably the first draft pick, being that guy. And that's

1467
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 4: where we're at it. And it starts, and the whole

1468
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,799
Speaker 4: conversation starts with the offensive line. Those guys were extremely

1469
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 4: good this year, and when Joe Brady took over, they

1470
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 4: started to flex. You know, they started to run the

1471
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 4: ball really well. You think back to that Dallas game

1472
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 4: and even Josh was like, dude, he goes, I felt

1473
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 4: like the guy who didn't show up for the group

1474
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 4: project and still got an a. I mean he he

1475
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 4: was handing the ball off and they just absolutely steamer

1476
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 4: those jokers. So that that's where we're at. They played

1477
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 4: extremely on they're gonna be better. I certainly o Cyrus

1478
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 4: is going to take a step You would think he's

1479
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 4: going to take a step forward this year. The whole

1480
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 4: offensive line is going to have that cohesion. They'll bring

1481
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 4: in some competition and free agents, maybe resign some of

1482
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 4: the guys that are off, but they got a ton

1483
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 4: of guys coming back up there. That's going to be

1484
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 4: a really good room. David Edwards is really the only

1485
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 4: significant guy that's that's not under contract going forward. Yeah,

1486
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 4: Mitch Morris has been. He's been a little bit like

1487
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 4: Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer when when they signed him,

1488
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, who oh, he came home from Kansas City.

1489
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 3: He was the highest paid center in the league.

1490
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, They're like, wow, that's big, right, So he has

1491
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 4: lived up to it. When he has been out of there,

1492
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 4: they've missed him. And uh yeah, I would agree that

1493
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 4: the offensive line going forward is the one place where

1494
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 4: it's like you can just like breathe a sigh of

1495
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 4: relief and think, okay, we now we all say that.

1496
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 4: And now, of course there'll be like nine guys that

1497
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 4: go down in training camp and they'll be playing and you know,

1498
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 4: Joey bagg of donuts and you know Tommyhoy and yeah,

1499
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 4: I have faith. Yeah, but right now, that's where we're at.

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Speaker 4: You're right, those guys up front were an absolute gem

1501
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 4: of a group this year.

1502
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 3: Let's go to Rich in Buffalo next. What do you

1503
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: got first?

1504
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 9: Rich?

1505
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I appreciate it.

1506
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 5: Just a couple of things McDermott Before this year, I like,

1507
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 5: I was thinking, this guy is not the guy. He

1508
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,879
Speaker 5: doesn't have it. It just doesn't happen. And I watched

1509
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 5: McDermott this year evolve as a coach. You know, all

1510
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 5: of us have to evolve as human beings throughout life, right,

1511
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 5: this guy evolved from four years ago to who he

1512
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 5: is right now. What a great job on that defense.

1513
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 5: And again I was never a McDermott apologist. This guy

1514
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 5: did a killer job on on the On the defense,

1515
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 5: I'm almost like, I'm glad we retained Bobby Babbage, but

1516
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 5: I'm kind of disappointed that Sean's not going to be

1517
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 5: calling the defen on some plays because he really did

1518
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 5: a great job. But with all his injuries, I mean,

1519
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 5: insane and Brownie, I'm with you.

1520
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 16: Draft three receivers.

1521
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 5: We got ten picks as many as you can pick,

1522
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 5: and defensive backs in there too.

1523
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 4: You know, love it. I would agree. I've been. I've

1524
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 4: been Pound and you know Rick Rich same place. I was,

1525
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 4: really and I know the game didn't end the way

1526
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 4: Bills fans wanted it to end against Kansas City, but

1527
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 4: I was really encouraged, and I like I was. I

1528
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 4: had to sit back and think about it for a

1529
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:36,440
Speaker 4: minute that and set it on the air. Sean McDermott

1530
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 4: is a much much different head coach this year and

1531
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 4: at the end of this year than he was two

1532
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 4: or three years ago. Completely different. I saw the defensive calls,

1533
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 4: the offense, the in game management that you know, and

1534
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 4: I know the fake punk was an atrocity, but all

1535
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 4: that stuff was vastly different and came from a vastly

1536
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 4: different place than we saw Sean McDermott coaching from two

1537
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 4: or three years ago. There's still no guarantees that it's

1538
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 4: going to be enough and all that, but I'm with you.

1539
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 4: I think he has really really evolved markedly over his

1540
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 4: time as head coach of the Bills, and I think

1541
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 4: now this is a team that could see some more

1542
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 4: positive results because of that evolution. We'll see, but I'm

1543
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 4: I'm totally with you that the end of that Kansas

1544
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 4: City game, and I know it didn't go our way,

1545
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 4: but the end of that Kansas City game was different

1546
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 4: than any of those other close playoff losses that the

1547
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 4: Bills have suffered. Was completely different than any of those,

1548
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 4: in my opinion, and.

1549
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 2: We should I mentioned this earlier, and I'll say it again, Rich,

1550
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 2: just because you were assuming that. And we don't have

1551
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 2: clarity on who is going to be calling plays on

1552
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 2: defense yet. We know Bob Babbage is going to be

1553
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator and fill the position, but we don't

1554
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: have clarity at on who's calling the plays, whether it'll

1555
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: continue to be McDermott or whether Babbage will take that over.

1556
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 2: We'll probably find out in due time here, but we

1557
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 2: don't know for sure how that operation is going to

1558
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 2: function going forward.

1559
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 3: Let's go to guy on a sale. What do you got, guy?

1560
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 9: How you doing good? My question is somebody mentioned to

1561
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 9: me that when teams do when they have like with

1562
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 9: Kansas the play they pulled that special play they pulled

1563
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 9: against us when they were off side, right, So my

1564
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 9: buddy was telling me that the coaches and the refs

1565
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 9: sit down in a room before the game, and they

1566
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 9: they tell the refs the games that they're going to play,

1567
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 9: that they're going to do these certain.

1568
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 4: Plays that sort of Greg guy, I'm sort of got.

1569
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 4: They have a conference. They do not sit down in

1570
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 4: a room and tell the officials the trick plays are

1571
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 4: going to do. But they will go to an official

1572
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 4: and alert him as to a special thing they may do,

1573
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 4: like an alignment or an eligible or ineligible. You know,

1574
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,799
Speaker 4: teams always do that gamesmanship. The Detroit Lions famously didn't

1575
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 4: report or reported the wrong way or did it the

1576
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 4: right way, and the official assumed assumed he had it

1577
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 4: and didn't. So that's you know, they tried to get

1578
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 4: away with one there and it cost them no question.

1579
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 4: But before a game, the head coach will seek out

1580
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 4: the lead official and say, listen, we're gonna align where

1581
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 4: we're gonna have one of our offensive linemen be ineligible

1582
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 4: eligible instead of ineligible. He's gonna report to you and

1583
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 4: we're gonna shift and he's gonna do something. They'll give

1584
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 4: him a warning. They don't sit down in a room

1585
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 4: and go over a chalkboard about what they're gonna do

1586
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 4: it and here's what's going to He just gives him

1587
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 4: a heads up to be alert for it. Now. In

1588
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 4: certain situations, if it presents itself, the head coach may say,

1589
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 4: like like if they're in a conversation about the play before,

1590
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 4: the head coach say, hey, that play that we alerted

1591
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 4: you about is coming up right now. That kind of thing.

1592
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 4: But it will never be in a spot where they're

1593
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 4: you know, doing anything. They give the official an alert

1594
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 4: because there's so much going on, just like we saw

1595
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,919
Speaker 4: with the Detroit Dallas game where the two point conversion

1596
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 4: was gotten and then it was taken away because they

1597
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 4: didn't report right. That's what they're trying to prevent. They're

1598
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 4: just trying to say, listen, we've got this thing that

1599
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 4: we're trying to fool the other team. We don't want

1600
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 4: to fool you too into giving us a penalty. That's

1601
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 4: the conversation that happens. It's not a room or a

1602
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 4: meeting or anything like that.

1603
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 3: Let's go to Mark in West senecon X. What's up Mark?

1604
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 5: Good?

1605
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 6: Guys?

1606
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: Are you today?

1607
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 3: Good?

1608
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 6: Real quick?

1609
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 18: As far as the pole goes, I know they're going

1610
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 18: to take care of White. I'll probably won probably the

1611
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 18: first two picks. I would assume speed speed, speed there,

1612
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 18: but what I really want them to do and we

1613
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 18: can't ignore it if you look at I think a

1614
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 18: previous caller mentioned it. Three of the four teams in

1615
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 18: the conference championships had really good to great defenses, and

1616
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 18: we can't ignore the defense the side of the ball.

1617
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 18: And you brought up a question yesterday, Brownie, which I

1618
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 18: thought was really interesting when you said, Sean has a

1619
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 18: standard question. He asked players, would you rather be known

1620
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 18: or would you rather be tough or smart? And for me,

1621
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 18: the proper answer to that is a football player is well,

1622
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 18: I want to bring toughness with the ability to be

1623
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 18: smart through my coaches and what they teach me. To me,

1624
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 18: that's the proper answer. And when I look at our

1625
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 18: defensive backfield, especially on the defensive side of the ball,

1626
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 18: to me, I don't know if you guys agree with

1627
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 18: this or not, we have lacked a little bit of

1628
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 18: a certain level of toughness through the years. We've had

1629
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 18: great players, certainly guys that can really play, but to me,

1630
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 18: they play more with their heads than with really Like

1631
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 18: they said the old saying, bring the wood here and

1632
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 18: there and whatever. And I think we really could use

1633
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 18: a little bit more toughness in the defensive backfield. And

1634
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 18: one of the real quick comment Brownie banned the talk

1635
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 18: on firing Sean. I applaud you to Steve for your

1636
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 18: response yesterday to is Sean being held accountable? That was

1637
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 18: an overdue response. Is absolutely boggles my mind that people

1638
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 18: would even think along the lines of firing Sean. The

1639
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 18: how soon they forget and forgotten where we were, where

1640
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 18: we come from, the instability of the organization as a whole.

1641
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 18: And it's not just game day guys, that Sean does

1642
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 18: what he does. He runs an organization, and there's a

1643
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 18: lot of behind the stuff, behind the scenes stuff that

1644
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 18: we are not even aware of. That obviously he's gotten right,

1645
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 18: and I applaud him and I say keep at it, Sean,

1646
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 18: because I think you're going to get us there eventually.

1647
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, all right, yeah, thanks Mark.

1648
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: Appreciate that we are up against it here, but yeah,

1649
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 2: and we've been kind of banging that drum a little bit.

1650
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 2: And yes, people easily forget, so what have you done

1651
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 2: for me lately?

1652
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 3: League?

1653
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:07,600
Speaker 2: And a lot of people are thrown out quickly, sometimes

1654
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 2: too soon in this league. In the head coaching positions,

1655
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 2: which is why there's six to eight jobs open every year.

1656
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 2: Some of them are you know, right decisions, you know,

1657
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 2: and they can replace them with somebody better. Sometimes it's wrong,

1658
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 2: and then they're right back in that same cycle looking

1659
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 2: for a coach again. We experienced it for the better

1660
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 2: part of twenty years. So once you got a guy,

1661
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 2: you hold on to him, especially if he's keeping you

1662
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 2: in contention every single year.

1663
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 4: The Pittsburgh Steelers are known for being a kind of

1664
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 4: stable organization. They had three head coaches in over half

1665
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 4: a century. I asked mister Rooney, and I can't remember Jim,

1666
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 4: not the Tim Rooney or Dan Runey. I'm sorry, So

1667
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,839
Speaker 4: I asked Dan Rooney before he passed away, what's your secret?

1668
01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 4: Why only three he goes? You know, you hire the

1669
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 4: smart guy you can. You support him until he figures

1670
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 4: it out. You don't bail on him. In fact, you

1671
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 4: wait until he has a guy like mcdermomy. You wait

1672
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 4: until he has a down year. Then you extend him

1673
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 4: so you can get him cheaper. That's how you do it.

1674
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 4: You stick with the guy and let him figure it out.

1675
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 4: And that's you know, it's fans don't like to hear

1676
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 4: that kind of patient talk from an owner. They want

1677
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 4: wins and they want him now, and they're convinced this

1678
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 4: this guy's the same guy, is over gonna be. But

1679
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 4: he's the same guy now, he's always gonna be. And

1680
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 4: that's not always the that's never the case, that's never

1681
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 4: the case.

1682
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break back to close it up here

1683
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 2: in just a moment on one Bill's life, all right,

1684
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 2: one final segment here quickly on the tweet sheet, which

1685
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 2: player most important for Bill's success on offense?

1686
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 3: Jack says, all of it.

1687
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: I need Diggs to give us at least one more

1688
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 2: strong year, need eleite production. I think we have two

1689
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 2: players in Shaki and Kincaid. If they take the next step,

1690
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 2: Bills will be hard to stop. And they definitely need

1691
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 2: to add cost controlled guys to help the others and

1692
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: replace fourteen eventually. Andrea says, whoever wide receiver two might

1693
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 2: be got to get some heat off of Diggs.

1694
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 4: Yep, I'm all about it. That's oh my gosh, I'm

1695
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 4: getting tired of talking about it already. What is it

1696
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 4: late January, last day, It's February.

1697
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 2: Long off season with this wide receiver even February is

1698
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 2: a day longer this year. With Leap Day, you have

1699
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: to deal with a whole nother day. We're back tomorrow,

1700
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 2: ad One, so be sure to tune in. We'll have

1701
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 2: more bills talk for you, just like we.

1702
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 3: Do every day. We'll see it tomorrow