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Speaker 1: What's up everybody, and welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hiring your host Chris Raybon, joined as always by one

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Speaker 1: of the top fantasy rankers in the game in Sean Kerner.

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Speaker 1: And today we're going to talk about some preseason risers

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Speaker 1: and followers. From week one, we had a lot of

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Speaker 1: take a break from our positional previews and jump into that.

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Speaker 1: And to do that, we have a very special guest.

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Speaker 1: He is the co owner of Fantasy Points. He is

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Speaker 1: the founder of Yards Created, which is a very helpful

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Speaker 1: running back methodology to evaluate backs. He is Graham Barfield. Graham,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming back on the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, this is good running back again. It's

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Speaker 2: always good to talk to you guys. In August and

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Speaker 2: it's hype season. It's hype season, man, I'm ready for you.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So, as I mentioned, we're going to kind

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Speaker 1: And let's jump right into the first guy I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about. We'll start with a running back, Graham,

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Speaker 1: because I know that you do really great work with back,

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Speaker 1: so wanted to get your opinion on Texans running back game.

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Speaker 1: Me and Pierce. We saw him moonlight for a few

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Speaker 2: Loved him, man, He was one of my guys in

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Speaker 2: this class. So this was a pretty weak rookie running

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Speaker 3: Oh it doesn't mean I like him, but I take

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Speaker 3: Actually Travis Homer hat. I am feeding Penny and Walker.

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Speaker 1: Graham you know, I know there's a lot of hype

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Speaker 1: I think last year our kind of joke was like

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Speaker 3: he's going right now. He's right around the wide receiver

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Speaker 3: So I am all aboard the Dobbs train. I don't

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know that. Okay, get this. He comps

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Speaker 1: probably want four receivers in that top forty and then

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Speaker 1: after that you're gonna be taking swings on upside. So

431
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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you could draft like a Devonte Parker,

432
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 1: you could draft the Jarvis Landry. But you know what

433
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Speaker 1: I mean, like, why not just take a guy like

434
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Speaker 1: who could be the number one receiver on the Packers

435
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Speaker 1: like Romeo dives so.

436
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,720
Speaker 3: And he's not. You could just pick up Devonte Parker

437
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 3: later on the river water.

438
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Speaker 1: Yah yeah, oh yeah, Jakobe Myers will get you those

439
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 1: six catches every week anyway, you know what I mean?

440
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 2: Yep, totally.

441
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 1: So from one hype wide receiver to another. Next up

442
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 1: is George Pickens. He is the second round pick out

443
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 1: of Georgia on the Steerers, who kind of like the Packers.

444
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 1: You know, when they draft receivers, you got to take notice.

445
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 1: And you know, Pickens caught three for forty three and

446
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 1: a lovely tow tap touchdown. And we in pre season

447
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 1: week one on fourteen routes, Barfield, what did you see

448
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 1: out of Pickens in that in that game.

449
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Speaker 2: Dude, he's a freak man stuff. Pickens is just a freak.

450
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 2: I'm just convinced that, like the Steelers have this like

451
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver algorithm that spit like they they have some

452
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 2: sort of like system where they just like cannot identify

453
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 2: receivers at any point the draft. It's unbelievable. But you know,

454
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 2: the reason Pickens fell had nothing to do with is

455
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 2: you know, on the field, on the field stuff, and

456
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 2: it was all off the field. You know, the ability

457
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 2: was always there for him. Uh and you know, after

458
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 2: Chase Claypool's down year last year, there's an option for

459
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: him to be the number two by mid season. You know,

460
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Speaker 2: I was drafting Pickens quite a bit in like the

461
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Speaker 2: one sixty one seventy range and in best Ball. So

462
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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit disappointed to see him start getting

463
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Speaker 2: a lot of steam here. But it's definitely warrant.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going as they he's up to wide receiver

465
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Speaker 1: fifty seven Sean and I already have him at wide

466
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Speaker 1: receiver at fifty I have because like there's just like

467
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Speaker 1: a big opening and he's kind of it's understood that

468
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: he's going to be the starter pretty much, so so

469
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Speaker 1: I really like Pickings. What about you?

470
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you remember, he was my late round dart

471
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 3: throw in Bestbaull Way earlier in draft season, and I

472
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: thought he probably needed an injury to Deontay Johnson or

473
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Speaker 3: Chase Claypool to really hit value. But after what I

474
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Speaker 3: saw this week, you know he could surpass Chase Claypool

475
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Speaker 3: in the pecking order for sure this year. So that's

476
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Speaker 3: why I moved him up a ton as well. Again,

477
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Speaker 3: he was a second round draft pick because his senior

478
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Speaker 3: or junior season, his last season at Georgia, he was

479
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Speaker 3: coming back from acl injury, so I think that might

480
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 3: have been why some off the field issues. But he

481
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Speaker 3: he would have been a first round pick for sure

482
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Speaker 3: if he had a normal season. So the talents there,

483
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Speaker 3: you know. The quarterback situation is basically the only concern

484
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Speaker 3: I have with him at this point. But yeah, I

485
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Speaker 3: love love having him. I don't have him quite as

486
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Speaker 3: high as you Rayon, but loved taking him at ADP

487
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 3: even though the hype is, you know, off the rails

488
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Speaker 3: right now, but it's definitely warranted.

489
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Speaker 1: Who do you guys think starts like Pickens?

490
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Speaker 2: You think it's yeah, I think it's Pickets.

491
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Speaker 1: Too, Like I mean, because like here's what I'm thinking

492
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Speaker 1: with Piggins, Like, you know, Deontay Johnson's gonna be out

493
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: there every time. He's a guy, he's always proven that

494
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Speaker 1: he can. He can play like all the snaps he

495
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: gets open like nobody's business. But I think Pickens may

496
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Speaker 1: be a candidate to also play like all of the

497
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Speaker 1: snaps from the jump because Claypool, he Pickens doesn't really

498
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: play in the slot, and so like Pickens just might

499
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Speaker 1: be that starting guy in the outside every play and

500
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Speaker 1: then Claypool may come in, you know, in three wide sets,

501
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: and you know, Calvin Austin if he's healthy, actor in

502
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: there as well. But yeah, I could I could see

503
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Speaker 1: Playpool like being a guy who's more like a seventy

504
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 1: five eighty percent snap guy and Pickens being a guy

505
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Speaker 1: who's ninety. Like I already kind of think that's the

506
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Speaker 1: best the configuration that it kind of has to be,

507
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, I was going to get some

508
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: like slot work is years. Yeah, I think they have to. Yeah,

509
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: it makes some sense, all right. Uh yeah, so love

510
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: Pickings another guy. I think you should buy the Hype one.

511
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 1: Here's the only guy I'm really going to talk about

512
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: that's not a rookie, but you know, definitely another guy

513
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: who you know I loved and then you know, of

514
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: course he has to go out and throw a touchdown

515
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: in the preseason. But Trey Lance, I mean, Trey Lance

516
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: is my favorite quarterback to get because I just think

517
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, your teams, if you're if you're mocking and

518
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: drafting right now, they look so much better when you don't,

519
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: you know, jump the gun on quarterback, like you really

520
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: want to kind of stop up those those running backs

521
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: and wide receivers in those first nine and ten rounds.

522
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Speaker 1: And so Trey Lance, you know, he's a great guy

523
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Speaker 1: to get. But you know, third third pick overall out

524
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: of North Dakota State in twenty twenty one, you know,

525
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: they essentially say fuck you to Jimmy Garoppolo and and

526
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Speaker 1: they're going Lance this year. He goes four for five

527
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: eighty yards in a touch also seven yard carry and

528
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Speaker 1: a slide. You said it was the first slide he's

529
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: ever executed at any level. Yeah, He's like, yeah, he was,

530
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: like he was he only wanted to talk about his

531
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: slide at the He's like he's like, I slid guys

532
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: like this is a first for me. So, uh, you know,

533
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: he's he's learning how to play quarterback. I mean he's

534
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 1: wearing how to kind of you know, stay on the field,

535
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: and I'm really excited about I really think he should

536
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: be like the number one quarterback target for everyone drafting,

537
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: because you know, spending a higher pick, you're just gonna

538
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: miss out on like another running back of wide receiver,

539
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: which is going to be so crucial for depth. But Barfield,

540
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: where are you on on Trey Lance?

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just too easy. I've just moved Lance up

542
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 2: and up all off season. I mean you look back

543
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: at his two starts last year, two thirds of his

544
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 2: carries were design plays, you know what I mean. Like,

545
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: that's that's the type of usage we want to see.

546
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: We want to you know then that we want our

547
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: quarterbacks to have like design plays for them, like Lamar Jackson,

548
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: like Jalen Hurts. Trelians is right there in that conversation too. Now,

549
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: I don't think he's as dynamic of a runner as

550
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts his. But that being said, I mean this

551
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: offense is unbelievable. I mean, between all the weapons, I mean,

552
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: it's just it's such a slam dunk and it makes

553
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: so much sense. I have him right behind Burrow and

554
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, but I think you could make a case

555
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: for him over Burrow even I just we still don't

556
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: know if the Bengals are going to actually do what's

557
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: sharp and just throw a ton. But I think it's

558
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: a conversation between him and Burrow inside, like the QB

559
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: seven QB eight debate there.

560
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's like those top six, you know, they're

561
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: pretty locked in. I'm counting Hurts as the TB six

562
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: and then I think Lance is probably like he should

563
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: be the QB seven at least in my plan, because

564
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: like the guys I want to fade, even if they're

565
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: not like overvalued, the guys I want to fade are

566
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: the more are the pocket passes like Joe Burrow, you know,

567
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, if he slips, sure I'll take him. But

568
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: like really, you know, even Dak doesn't run as much,

569
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: Wilson doesn't run as much. So like give me the

570
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: guy who like Justin Field's last four games that he

571
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: completed last year, like he got hurt in one of them.

572
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: The other four he was like QB two, QB nine,

573
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Speaker 1: QB ten, QB eleven, that's a QB eight finish. You know,

574
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: like Krey Lance is better than that in a much

575
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Speaker 1: better offense. So yeah, I think I think he has

576
00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: legit QB one overall upside. Sean, let's say you on Trey.

577
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, my opinion remains the same. It's still I'm meant

578
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: to try to target Jalen Hurts earlier in the draft

579
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: and if you know I don't get him, I mean

580
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: aggressively pursue Trey Lance. So yeah, once once the Niners

581
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: gave Jimmy g the middle finger, That's what really helped

582
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: me solidify my Trey Lance take. So I didn't even

583
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: see any action this week, although it was nice to

584
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: see Danny Gray look pretty good. But I love the

585
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 3: weapons round Lance. This year they were able to lock

586
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: up Debo, So what's not to like about Lance? So yeah,

587
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: he's inside my top ten now.

588
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know the reason I love him in

589
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: this offense A lot of people may be the only

590
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: concern for people with him is, you know, his ability

591
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: to actually throw the football. Well, I think Kyle Shanahan

592
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: kind of mitigates that to a large extent because like

593
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: for people that don't like really know what Kyle Shanahan's doing.

594
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: It's unheard of the positions he's putting his receivers in.

595
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: He's putting his receivers in position to get like yack

596
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: yarded yards a have to catch that. You usually have

597
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: to throw a bubble screen to get eight nine yards

598
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: down the field. Like Deebo Samuel was catching the ball

599
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: on average a little over eight yards down the field

600
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: and getting another ten yards after the catch. Brandon Ayuk

601
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: was catching the ball on average eight point six yards

602
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: down the field and getting six yards after the catch

603
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: Like that is unheard of in the modern day NFL.

604
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: It's like, you catch a ball eight nine yards down

605
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: the like downfield, you're getting you know, three four yards

606
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: of yak you know on average, Like these are yak

607
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: numbers that are you usually get when you throw the

608
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: ball behind the line of scrimmage and they're finding space

609
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: to do this, you know, essentially at the marker already.

610
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: Like so I'm not worried about Trey Lance at all

611
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: as a passer. I think he'll get his numbers.

612
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, remember when it comes to this scheme that it

613
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: made Nick Mullens look like a QB two I mean right.

614
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, yeah, and he was Yeah, it was

615
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: like I think he finished his Niners career at seven

616
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: point nine yards per attempt, and Lance even he was

617
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: eight point five last year in his two in his

618
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: two games. So yeah, no concerns with him throwing the football.

619
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Speaker 1: Let's go to Desmond Ritter. He was a third round

620
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: pick out of Cincinnati this year, and you know, just

621
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: like Marcus Mariota, you know, a guy who can bring

622
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: some rushing upside. He threw only ten for twenty two.

623
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: You know, did get two touchdowns on one hundred and

624
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: three yards, but I think it was a six for

625
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: fifty nine rushing. That's really kind of interesting because you know,

626
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: this is like the contingency plan of the contingency plan,

627
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: of the contingency plan. It's like, if you miss out

628
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: on hurts, you go for Lance. If you miss out

629
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Speaker 1: on Lance, you go for fields. If you miss out

630
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: on fields, you know, maybe it's Daniel Jones. But then

631
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: there's always going to be a Falcon quarterback that's going

632
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: to run too, whether it's Mariota or Ritter Barfield. I know,

633
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: Ritter is probably not gonna be a Week one factor.

634
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: But let's say you know, he's in the streaming debate

635
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: or the DFS debate at some point in the season.

636
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: You know, what are your thoughts on him.

637
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: I think Mariota separated himself, man. I think you know,

638
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith went out and got Mariota for a reason.

639
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: I think Ritter is kind of more of like a

640
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: project type of player for them, And if Mariota stinks,

641
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: which he very well could, then River is gonna play.

642
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: The Falcons have like the hardest opening stretch. I came

643
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Speaker 2: up with a metric using my guy Scott Barrett's strength

644
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: of schedule metrics and then just like implied totals from

645
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks of games, and the Falcons

646
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 2: have by far the worst early season outlooks. I mean,

647
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: this offense is going to struggle to put up points.

648
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: But we kind of saw one quarter. I mean Mariota

649
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: was running, you know, way more. He dealt with injuries

650
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: obviously all throughout his career with the Titans, and I

651
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: don't think he ever really was a dual threat quarterback

652
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: to the you know, to his potential because he was

653
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: constantly hurt. You know, now he's finally healthy. I'm kind

654
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: of like quietly excited to see Mariota. I've been bumping

655
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: him up my ranks just because he does have that

656
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: dual threat ability. But you know, like I said, I

657
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: mean there's there's very limited job security with him. You know,

658
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you're really targeted Mariota

659
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: and best ball and like super flex straps. But I

660
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: do think he's an extremely high upside picks like a

661
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: QB three at super flex.

662
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like for me, it's kind of like,

663
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: you know, I actually like him better and just straight

664
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: up redraft because I could just scream him and drop

665
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: him if he love is his job, you know, like

666
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 1: because I think I think both of these quarterbacks are

667
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: going to give you that rushing upside and you know

668
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: they have I mean, Kyle Pitts, Drake oneness and Pattis

669
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: is not going to sneeze at So you know, Sean,

670
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: where are you on Ritter? And we could throw Mariota

671
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: in that conversation as well, just you know Falcons quarterback.

672
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: You know, I know you write, you know, you can

673
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: write a column on streamers. Do you foresee them in

674
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: that discussion at some point?

675
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Speaker 2: Is here?

676
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

677
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: So Ritter, he looked okay, but I think this game

678
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: had more to do with Mariota's value, which I agree.

679
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: I think, you know, especially early in the season, He's

680
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: gonna definitely be streamer viable, notly because of his rushing upside,

681
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: but just look at his weapons. I mean he has.

682
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: They're gonna use quarter Oak Patterson more as you know,

683
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: a pass catching back this year, apparently Drake London he's

684
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 3: my favorite rookie wide out this year. And Kyle Pitts.

685
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: So combining that with his rushing ability, plus they're going

686
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: to be trailing most of the time. You know, I'm

687
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: gotta love his usage early in the season. So yeah,

688
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: this this made me more interested in Mariota early in

689
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Speaker 3: the season. And you know DFS streamer, you know, leagues

690
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: like that. So yeah, this was very good news for Marcusperra.

691
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: He looked good in his you know, limited.

692
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Speaker 1: Action, and man, I kind of like this Falcons. You

693
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: can get a lot of these cheap Falcons guys. Even

694
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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. He's like, you know, he's kind of like

695
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: if you can't get Kelsey or Andrews, it's like Kyle

696
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: Pitts probably the has like I think more so than

697
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: like Kiddle or Waller this year has that like, you know,

698
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred yard upside just because of you know who

699
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: he is and who he's competing with. Let's go to

700
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: let's talk about London real quick. Barfield, you know you

701
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: only had that one catch, look pretty good on it,

702
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: you know, are you interested in him? I think his

703
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: ADP it's pretty low here at wide receiver forty five.

704
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: Maybe that was a reaction to to the injury.

705
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I think people London's backed up in ADP. Man.

706
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: I was taking him in like the wider the back

707
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: end of like the wide receiver three range and fastball,

708
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: and I'm definitely in as a four. You know, look

709
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: at it. I mean I want to chase early round

710
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: hyper productive college receivers. London fits that bill. There's no

711
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: one else on that depth chart and the receiver depth

712
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: chart at least to really threaten him. And if Mario

713
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: is a little better than the markets are expecting, I

714
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: mean London, London will probably get out to a pretty

715
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: quick start.

716
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Speaker 1: And I think the.

717
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: Falcons are going to want to run the ball more.

718
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: But like I said, they have a really brutal opening stretch,

719
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: so I think they're gonna end up having to chase

720
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: some games early in the year, and that'll probably lead

721
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: a little more volume for London and Pits and all

722
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: their kinds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, Sean, we just did the pod

724
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Speaker 1: with Matt Harmon, and you know, looking at his reception

725
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: perception where he charted London, I think the biggest misconception

726
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: and even I had to kind of, you know, educate

727
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: myself on this was that, Okay, he's a bigger guy.

728
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: You know, he might struggle with some of the separation skills,

729
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: but you know, Harmon chartered him and this guy was

730
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: in the you know, eighties percentile or better and getting

731
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: open and winning on his routes. And then I know

732
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Speaker 1: you tweeted an equip of him and you said he

733
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: look pretty smooth out there as well. So talk to

734
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: me about London.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, you know, he's my favorite rookie

736
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: wide receiver. I got to watch him a lot, you know,

737
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: at USC on local cable, so I've been watching for

738
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: quite some time now. He reminds me of a blend

739
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: of Mike Evans and Keenan Allen. I think he is

740
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: pretty smooth route runner. People are concerned about the speed,

741
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: but watch that twenty four yard catch and run like

742
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: he looks fine out there, so I you know, I

743
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: did not want him to get hurt. Obviously. I think

744
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: they're just being protective of him. I think he'll be

745
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: ready for Week one, but certainly that's going to keep

746
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: his ADP and check. You know, as Graham mentioned, it

747
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: might be dropping right now because you know that's probably

748
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: gonna go down as only preseason catch. So I think

749
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: he's one of those players. The hype isn't out of

750
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: control right now, but it should be. So I love

751
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: getting him in this wide receiver forty five range, and

752
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: I would love if his ADP drops even more because

753
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: he should be ready to go by week one and

754
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: you're not drafting him for week one anyway. You're drafting

755
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: him just based on his upside. He's going to be

756
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: a wide receiver four. He's gonna be the first guy

757
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: on your bench. So I just love getting him where

758
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: he is right now.

759
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you always want to kind of target that upside,

760
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: especially guys who you know are going to be a

761
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: top two target on their team, and you know those

762
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: are the guys that are going to be able to

763
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: give you know, four or five catch weeks and potentially

764
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: do it consistently, which if you're playing redraft, is really

765
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: what you want. It's that consistency, uh, to do that

766
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: weekend and week out. Let's stay with this Falcons team.

767
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: You know Tyler Algier, he's a fifth round pick out

768
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: of BYU. It's a wide open depth chart. You know,

769
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: they signed Damian Williams to kind of play the Mike

770
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: Davis role. But you know, Allison showed well, Algier is

771
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: a guy that they invested draft capital in and he

772
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: looked pretty good. You know, three carries twenty five yards.

773
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: Is there any sweeper appeal here? Maybe later in the season,

774
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: because I know you said they do have a tough

775
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: early season schedule, wouldn't really kind of be conducive to

776
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: early down back.

777
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: My thing with al jier Man is, you know we

778
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: you mentioned it a minute ago, like Seapat is going

779
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: to be their pass catching guy and like Algier is

780
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: probably just the early downgrinder and I'm not sure how

781
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: valuable that is in this offense. And you know, for

782
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: what it's worth, I wrote this up when I when

783
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: I was charting Algier, but like you could watch one

784
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 2: game of his from his his time at b YU

785
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: and know exactly what kind of player is Like he

786
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't have much burst, he doesn't have much wibble,

787
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: but man, he gets north south quick. And you know,

788
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: I know Arthur Smith loves to run the ball, so

789
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: he he'll probably end up being their early down guy.

790
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: But I just questioned how much upside he has, especially

791
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: since you know, we know this Falcons offense is probably

792
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: gonna struggle to score some touchdowns.

793
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, looking at his player profile or comp

794
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: it's Zach Moss and Sean, I know, no, but like seriously.

795
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: That's a Honestly, it's pretty spot on.

796
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: And we joke, but you know, Sean, I remember you

797
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: pointed this out and you and I were kind of

798
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: we probably made some money in DFS because we knew

799
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: exactly when the target Zach Moss was, Like it was

800
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: like in the games where the Bills were good, like

801
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: they would activate him specifically when they were like favored

802
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: by like you know, it was like the Teching game,

803
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: right right right. I think maybe a Dolphins one too,

804
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, so like is that kind of what we're

805
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: probably going to be using ALGA year this year? Is like,

806
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, a few games the Falcons are actually favored.

807
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you got to take a flyer on him.

808
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: Is that where we're at with him?

809
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right, And that's why man, I

810
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: like him as a player. Zach Moss is a fair company.

811
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: He does give me James Connor vibes, though I think

812
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: he does have you know, if we want to go

813
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: with the positive route, his ceiling, say James Connor would

814
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: be his ceiling. But yeah, as Graham mentioned, like the

815
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: early down role, isn't that valuable in this offense because

816
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 3: they're not gonna put up many points, They're not gonna

817
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: have the lead very often, and he's gonna have to

818
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 3: compete with Mariota around the goal line for touchdowns anyway.

819
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: So that's why, you know, his upside is very limited.

820
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: I mean, he's basically the Mike Davis role and how

821
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: valuable was that last year? So I do like him

822
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: as a player, but just based on the Falcons current

823
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: team and going into the season, you know, I don't

824
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: think he offers enough upside to get too excited about.

825
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: But definitely someone a monitor.

826
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: Speaking of someone a monitor, Ken Walker the third. You know,

827
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: he's a guy who we It's funny because on the

828
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: same day. I think we got to report that, like

829
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a lot more involved than we thought.

830
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: He's also dealing with a hernia. They say, they say

831
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: he's gonna be ready by week one, so I mean,

832
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: hopefully that's you know, it's just a it's a pretty

833
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: simple proceeds shouldn't cost him greatly or anything. But you know,

834
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: he didn't flash too much. Was by for nineteen out

835
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: of the backfield, caught an eleven yard eleven yard past Barfield.

836
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: You know, assuming he's healthy, you know, what do you

837
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of see out of him as a back?

838
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad I'm doing the pot with y'all because

839
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: I saw that news right when we were getting on.

840
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: I was I would have been destruck because Walker is

841
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: like one of my most drafted running backs. I think

842
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: it's right though, I think we avoided something serious here.

843
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: Walker was my guy. Man in this class just absolutely

844
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: nuked yards created ninety first percent TI of yards created

845
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: for attempt, led this class by a mile and miss

846
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: Staples forts for attempt. He reminded me of a skinnier

847
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon in terms of play style. You know, the

848
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: big concern obviously with him, Man is like you know,

849
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: we can't call it. What thirteen balls fourteen balls at

850
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: Michigan State last year and most of those were dump offs,

851
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: but I watched all of them. You know, he showed like,

852
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: you know, just getting his hands out in front of him,

853
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: wasn't body catching, just little things like that. He did

854
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: show that. At the end of the day. You know,

855
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: we know Rashaw Penny is awesome, but you know, we

856
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: also know Chad Penny hasn't been able to stay on

857
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: the field. At the same time, I'm hoping Walker is,

858
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: you know, at least at least good to go for

859
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: week one. There's a reporter that just came actually the raps.

860
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: She just said that he's The plan is for him

861
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: to be ready for week one. So I think then

862
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 2: I think you've got to bump him down a little,

863
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: just based on you know, he's not going to get

864
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 2: any more preseason reps. He's probably going to be behind

865
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: by week one. But I still view this as like,

866
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of had to project it as

867
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: like Penny one a Walker one B to start the season,

868
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: and then Walker just slowly taking over as the season

869
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: goes on. And I think that's kind of the same

870
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: case right now regardless of this earnia.

871
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know Pete Carroll actually, you know,

872
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: talk to your point about the path catching. Pete Carroll

873
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: had actually just said, you know, he's turned a page

874
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: and his pass protection work and scouting reports. Because I

875
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: went back and looked at this, they did tend to say,

876
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, when he caught the ball, just like you

877
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: did that, that he went good when he caught it.

878
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: He just didn't get a big chance to do so.

879
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a major concern.

880
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's something that Michigan Stale offenses in general

881
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: don't do. They don't throw to the backs like they

882
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: had Leveon Bell. But you know they barely threw to

883
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: him too until like his last couple of years. So

884
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: I think that's just more of just they just don't

885
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 2: throw to their backs.

886
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will say I will say this, it's like,

887
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, Homer and Dallas both also showed out in

888
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: the preseason, and I think they will be involved. So

889
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: I think it is fair to like either way, it's

890
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to kind of get his value from

891
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: at some point, you know, taking over from Penny. The

892
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: old line is pretty bad. You know, Sean, I know

893
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: you've been kind of I would hesitant to invest in Walker,

894
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: so I'm guessing that this news probably does nothing to help. Uh,

895
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: you know it helped where where you're willing to take him.

896
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: No, it does nothing to help it. Again, this has

897
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: nothing to the player. Walker's extremely talented. I consider him

898
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: very close to bres Hall. So you know it's one A,

899
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: one B. When it comes to the Brookie Backs, I

900
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: just don't like the landing spot because Rashaw Penny is

901
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: still there. I could see them, you know, splitting the

902
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 3: down work when they're both healthy. But as Graham mentioned,

903
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 3: you know, for Shad, Penny has struggled to stay healthy.

904
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: That's where I see ken Walker's upside. But I also

905
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 3: said that, you know, backs like Travis Homer DJ Dallas

906
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 3: are gonna be way more involved than people like to admit,

907
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: and we saw that happen. I mean, Travis Homer look good,

908
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: but you know he's gonna you know, probably dominate the

909
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: receiving work to down the two minute offense, which is

910
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: unfortunate because I think that's where Walker would need to

911
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: kind of expand his role to to find value. Ale

912
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: Pennies healthy. So just two backs sharing early down work

913
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: on a team that's not very good. They're going to

914
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: be trailing most of the time, that probably won't score

915
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: that as many points as here. Just makes me hesitate

916
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: on him a bit. And this this recent injury doesn't help.

917
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 3: I think he'll be ready by week one.

918
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it.

919
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: Really comes down for show Penny's health. So if for

920
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: Shad Penny is healthy all season, you know, I think

921
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker is being drafted too high. But yeah, I

922
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 3: just didn't like the situation at the landing spot for him.

923
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, so right now he's his ADP is RB thirty six.

924
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna fall because of the injury. And

925
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: I think if you can get him as like you're

926
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: RB four, you know, a guy that you're not really

927
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: planning on starting, I think that would be better because

928
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: I think he has a lot of upside. Penny has

929
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: missed over forty percent of his games through four years,

930
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: so there is a chance here. But there also are

931
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: some risks, like you know, Seattle's the probably the worst

932
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: offensive line in the league, or you know, right there

933
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: with the Bears as the worst, and yeah, if Penny

934
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt. You're probably in a bind because you'll

935
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: have you have two other guys that are going to

936
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: make the team for special teams that also play on

937
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: third down in two minutes and Homer in Dallas. So

938
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: I think the best way to invest in Walker if

939
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: you happen to if you're a better He's twelve to

940
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: one to win Rookie of the Year if Penny is

941
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: missing forty percent of his games, like, Walker has a

942
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: real shot at that Rookie of the Year if Penny

943
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: goes down, you know, somewhat early in the year. So

944
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: I think that's probably the best way to invest in

945
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Ken Walker. It's not necessarily in fantasy and Less's adp

946
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: drops to outside the top forty backs. All right, let's

947
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: finish it up. Last I want to talk about is

948
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: a guy that his stock, you know, didn't he It

949
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: went down in the preseason. And it's funny because I

950
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: made a joke about it. I was like, watch this

951
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: guy play into the fourth quarter of the first preseason game,

952
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: and little you know, of course, he actually did play

953
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: deeper to the fourth quarter. That's Traylon Burks, you know,

954
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: first rounder out of Arkansas, had one target a nineteen routes.

955
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: So that's not great for a guy who we wanted

956
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: to be the number one wide receiver. Now it looks like,

957
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, I've heard positive things about every other Titans

958
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: receiver in camp, like Robert Woods looks really good coming

959
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: back from his injury, Westbrook Akina, you know they love him.

960
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: He knows the system. He's been there for three four

961
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: years now, racing McMath is beating everybody deep, Kyle Phillips

962
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: is taking over that slot role. Where does this leave

963
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: Burke's Because I know people Graham are going to say,

964
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: don't overreact. We overreacted to Jamar Chase, but like Jamar

965
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: Chase was different. Jamar Chase played eleven routes in the

966
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: preseason and got targeted five times. If the ball is

967
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: going to you when you drop it, that can that

968
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: can change. But like for Burts, it just seems like

969
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: he's struggling to like get open.

970
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: In Yeah, it's it's bizarre, man, And for what it's worth,

971
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: Like I look at them this all the time, but

972
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: like Mike Vrabel has been trashing the guy, like I

973
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: haven't heard it. I haven't heard a coach trash a

974
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: first round pick like this in a long time. Like

975
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 2: it's bizarre. Man, At the end of the day, there's

976
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: there's not much you can really hang your hat on

977
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: to keep bump, like to keep him you know, where

978
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: he was going in the seventh eighth round of drafts,

979
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: like he was the summer. He's one guy I keep

980
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: moving down and it sucks, Like, you know, there's so

981
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: much opportunity here. I mean, Robert Woods is declining in

982
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: terms of efficiency metrics. He's coming off of pop to ACL.

983
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: They don't really have much else. But like if Burkes

984
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: can't beat out you know, Nick Westbrook, I keen and

985
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: you know Kyle Phillips to get on the field early

986
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: in August, like that's that's probably not a good sign.

987
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: He's I really hope he pops here maybe in the

988
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: next couple of weeks and gives us some like signs

989
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: of life. But it's it's getting really hard to invest

990
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 2: in Burke stock because, like you said, man, it's totally different,

991
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: like Jamar Chase was like set in Stone generational wide

992
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 2: receiver prospect. There was a lot of concern over some

993
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: of Burkes's production being fraudulent. My guy Scott Barrett wrote

994
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: a ton about this, and like you know, it wasn't

995
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: just like an analytical thing like so tape guys really

996
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: didn't like them either. So yeah, it's a totally different

997
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: situation to Chase, and I've definitely adjusted.

998
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: My thing with Burkes is that, like you look at him,

999
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: and even when he was you know, in the draft,

1000
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: like the Titans kind of had to act swiftly like

1001
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: they it's like I think we got word. They traded

1002
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: aj Brown and drafted Burkes and like the same breath

1003
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: almost like so it's like Burt's was a guy a

1004
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: lot of people had not necessarily even going in round

1005
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: when like some people had him slipping to round two,

1006
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: and I his over under definitely was was above like

1007
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: eighteenth or where we got drafted. So Sean, I know

1008
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: you know again like I know you don't like to

1009
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: overreact to these things. So you're you know, you're as

1010
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: the voice of reason because I have works like as

1011
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: like wide receiver like sixty or something like right now,

1012
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: but where are you on Burkes?

1013
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: Given what we've see, I am right there with you.

1014
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: I have him wide receiver sixty as well. Actually I

1015
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: still have Robbie Anderson with a why Santi, But that's

1016
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: that's the range I have Burks now, I yeah, I

1017
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: think this is definitely a time to panic. And I

1018
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: was pretty high on him. He does have a wide

1019
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: range of outcomes. You know, I'm not just casting him

1020
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: off forever, but the fact that he's with the Titans,

1021
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: that's the concern. I mean, AJ Brown was legit because

1022
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: he was, you know, elite in terms of efficiency. That's

1023
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 3: how he was able to produce value in this offense.

1024
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: So if we're already have concerns, then I'm off of Burks.

1025
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 2: Now.

1026
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: If if he was on Green Bay or Kansas City,

1027
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 3: I would stick with him just based on the scheme.

1028
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: But right now, yeah, I'm completely off. I'm with you,

1029
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: he's like wide receiver sixty.

1030
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: Now.

1031
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to be too you know, overreacting,

1032
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 3: but I think in this case it's definitely warranted because

1033
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 3: the signs were there. He played in the fourth quarter

1034
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: in the preseason game, playing against backups, couldn't find targets.

1035
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 3: They had to give him that design carry for four

1036
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: yards to get him the ball. So just things like

1037
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 3: that you just can't ignore. So I definitely a lord

1038
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 3: of a ton after that.

1039
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember a time where like a first

1040
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: round rookie played in the fourth quarter of the first

1041
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: game in August. Honestly, Like, I can't think, bro.

1042
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's kind of what I like to your point, Graham,

1043
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: it's like you got to kind of read between the

1044
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: lines with what the coaching staff is telling you, and

1045
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: it's like, that's not telling that's telling you he hasn't

1046
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: proven anything despite his pedigree in practice because and and

1047
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: we've heard the bad practice reports. You know, the conditioning

1048
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: hasn't always been there. Unfortunately, the guy's got asthma, which

1049
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: which does suck, especially in a spot like Tennessee in

1050
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: the summer. But uh, it's not good. I think he's

1051
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: like one more bad preseason game away from me calling

1052
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: him Traquon Treadwell.

1053
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: So uh.

1054
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: Re emerged, Yeah, right, exactly, Yeah, an urban Meyers second stenter.

1055
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, the Jags already have their trailer on bricks.

1056
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: And we don't we don't need.

1057
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, who by the way. Uh so

1058
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, reading into the Jags reports, it's, uh, it's

1059
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: been Marvin and Zay on the out on the outside

1060
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: and then and then uh, Treadwell is the number four.

1061
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: So like that tells me should is the number five

1062
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: at best, and they've been looking to trade him and

1063
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: haven't had any suitors. So like that's, yeah, that's not bad.

1064
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: But like you gotta he's yeah, you gotta take like

1065
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: sky Moore and all those like John Dotson, Garrett Wilson,

1066
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: all those other rookies. I think obviously, like sky Moore

1067
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: looked really good by the way. I know we're not

1068
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: gonna get to him, but you know, we kind of

1069
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: knew that he was going to be good. And mcole

1070
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: Harmon apparently got a groin injury, so you know, more

1071
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: should get more work. So yeah, pretty much every rookie,

1072
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, first second rounder I think is in a

1073
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: better spot, uh than Burks right now, all right, let's

1074
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 1: let's wrap it up by just let's talk about guys

1075
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: who are just moving up or down our draft boards.

1076
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: This could be you know, based on guys we talked about.

1077
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: It could just be you know, news related in general.

1078
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: Grandma'll start with you. Who's somebody, Who's somebody or players

1079
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: that have been moving up your draft board.

1080
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you one guy. It's Brandon on you

1081
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: I think just the best, you know, more buzz for Lance,

1082
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: the better for our Yuke. Like, I think a part

1083
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: of the reason I Yuke. You know, obviously he was

1084
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: in the doghouse last year. You know, you know, Shanahan

1085
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: got sick of them the camp. But I think part

1086
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: of the reason I you flopped last year is Jimmy

1087
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: Garoppolo is just non aggressive passer. Like he throws over

1088
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: the middle. Uh. They designed stuff for Debo and Kittle

1089
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: and all their guys to get into space, but like

1090
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: Lance actually has the arms, arm talent and the aggressive

1091
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: nature to throw deep down field and kind of give

1092
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 2: a Yuke some fifty to fifty balls. I'm real excited

1093
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: for our yuk Man. And it's not that I'm out

1094
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: on Debo. It's not that I'm out on Kittle, but

1095
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: I Uke's like my favorite Niner pass catcher to buy,

1096
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: simply because he's you know, he's the cheapest, and arguably

1097
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: he gets the biggest upgrade. Like Debo is always gonna

1098
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: get his kitt will always have his Fike games. But

1099
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 2: I think our uk and Lance like meshed perfectly together.

1100
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just again that designed it that offense. You

1101
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: know where he's able to catch the ball, you know,

1102
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: near the marker and still have space. Just based on

1103
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: that scheme, I think is something to like about him. Uh, Sean,

1104
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: give me some guys or a guy that that's moving

1105
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: up for you.

1106
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 3: So I mean George Pickens and Romeo Dobbs obviously don't

1107
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: need to talk about them anymore. But the one guy

1108
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 3: that's moved up a lot the past couple of weeks

1109
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 3: for me is Ramandre Stevenson. You know, once James White retired,

1110
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 3: I thought Stevenson was a sneaky, good pass catching back

1111
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: last year I was president using more. But it looks like,

1112
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: you know, he could take over that James White roll.

1113
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: Certainly he could eat into Damien Harris's carries. I mean,

1114
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: he could be a true workhorse back. So the fact

1115
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: that we have Damien Harris trade rumors out there, this

1116
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: is kind of what I was doing Damien Harris last

1117
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: year when they still had Tony Michelle. Once the trade

1118
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: rumors started, I started moving Damien Harris up. So that's

1119
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 3: what I'm doing with Stevenson. I have him actually ranked

1120
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: the head of Harris right now because I think he

1121
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: does have a pathway to be a true workhorse back

1122
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: in this offense. So just love what you know, his

1123
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: upside and what I saw last year as a rookie.

1124
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: So he's been the guy that's moving up the most

1125
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: in my rankings.

1126
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, I'm probably gonna lose this James proche bet.

1127
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: I think we bet that he would have fifty catches,

1128
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: but I do. I do remember. I think at one

1129
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: point in the off season, like way early, you were like, yeah,

1130
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: James White might have some value. I was like, this

1131
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: dude is washed, and you know, it's like, looks like

1132
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: James White thought he was washed too.

1133
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 3: Because how about let me clarify. Remember when steven we're

1134
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: debating over was it Jace Sternberger. Yeah, I should have

1135
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: just said, whoever the hell is lining up a tight

1136
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 3: end for the Packers. So James White, it's just whoever

1137
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 3: is going to be lined up, you know on third

1138
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 3: downs Matt Jones loves to dumping on. So it looks

1139
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: like it's, well, yeah, James White's done, but Stevenson could

1140
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: be that guy. So yeah, love his upside.

1141
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: So you might also want to invest in some shares

1142
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: of time Montgomery, who's who's like re emerged from the

1143
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: dead apparently in that role as well. So it but no,

1144
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: I agree, I think Stevenson he deserves to be taken

1145
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: in that group of backs where you know those kind

1146
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 1: of RB three's that you know, like like he should

1147
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: give you startuple value for week one, is what I'm

1148
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: trying to say.

1149
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: So he's my favorite out of that group right now. Yeah,

1150
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: we just lost Walker, he's.

1151
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: Not yeah yeah, so for me, you know, like you said,

1152
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: Dobbs has been a guy obviously, don't really need to

1153
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: talk about him. Again. I have a piece of at

1154
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: Action network dot com if you want to kind of

1155
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: be convinced. And you're not too familiar, George Pickens another guy,

1156
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: Like like you said, Sean is just a guy. I

1157
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be out there every snap from from

1158
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: week one. Uh. Pachecko, you know, talked about him already.

1159
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: I think I think he like he's the number two

1160
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: back already. It just kind of seems like from his usage.

1161
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson Jr. Is a guy we haven't talked about,

1162
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, at first, you know, the Gibson, Like,

1163
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Gibson's necessarily just gonna like lose goal

1164
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: line carries to a rookie, but like it's in general,

1165
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, like they used him too

1166
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: much last year, like as they as his volume went up,

1167
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: his efficiency went down. And like Gibson's a guy, somebody

1168
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: threw it out there that like maybe it's optimal to

1169
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: use him, almost like Cordell Patterson. You know, it's saying

1170
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: similar kind of situation where it's like a guy who

1171
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: is a receiver and then he's like they turned him

1172
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: into a back, but like person's efficiency went down, you

1173
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: know there the end of the year from too much

1174
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: probably inside the tackles work. That could be the case

1175
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: with Gibson. And they drafted this guy Robinson. They've been

1176
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: talking him up. They're already saying they like the way

1177
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: he runs, whereas Gibson needs to kind of like refine

1178
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: his style. So there's enough smoke there, uh, you know

1179
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: for me to be kind of gradually moving Robinson up.

1180
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: And then there's also also some tight ends, you know,

1181
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: right outside those top those top ten I think tight end.

1182
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: You know, if you miss out on the top ten,

1183
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: like after Knox and Ertz, like you're gonna be in

1184
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of like a bind of in a

1185
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: twelve team league. So Albert okuwevu Nam you know with

1186
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: that Tim Patrick injury. He's moving up because we know

1187
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: we've always loved his like underlying metrics. He gets targeted

1188
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: at a high rate per route, and now he's going

1189
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: to be the starter there.

1190
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: You know.

1191
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: Tyra Higbee is another guy I think people are kind

1192
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: of underrating. He was out there for like eighty six

1193
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: percent of the routes, you know, in that Rams offense.

1194
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: You know, he could he could easily end up being

1195
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: like that tiny end eleven or twelve or even higher,

1196
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: just based on the way he's used. So he's another guy.

1197
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: And Gerald Everett too, you know, just as I project

1198
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert like he's projected he's the top favorite to

1199
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: lead the league in passing touchdowns. You know, Everyett is

1200
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: a lot younger than Jared Cook. Like this role, this

1201
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 1: tight end role in that offense could be a little

1202
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: more valuable than we thought it was last year, just

1203
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: because you have like a kind of better player than

1204
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: Jared Cook. So those are a couple of guys that

1205
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: a few guys that have been moving up my board.

1206
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: Let's finish it up with guys that are moving down.

1207
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: Barfield who you.

1208
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 2: Got, Yeah, you know, I'm always one that's like, you know,

1209
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to not focus too much on player takes

1210
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: and focus more on like you know, roster builds and stuff.

1211
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: But there are guys out there that I just don't

1212
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: want any of, And you know, it's just the opportunity

1213
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: cost of of drafting them is just not worth even

1214
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: the value you might get in theory in their ADP.

1215
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: And then the two guys right now I have is

1216
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: Antonio Gibson and Kenny Galladay, they're just off my list,

1217
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: Like Gibson is gonna lose the passing down catch up

1218
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: work to McKissick, there's you know, we just talked through

1219
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: Brian Robinson because I'm with you. Robinson is one guy

1220
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: I've been hammering laden drafts all year. He was really

1221
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: underrated in yards created. I have him much higher than

1222
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: consensus pre draft. And the Kenny Galladay man, it's just

1223
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: easy like he's just probably dust. Like he got he

1224
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: got his money, he got paid, and now he's just

1225
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: like not even put in the effort. I mean some

1226
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: of the some of the routes that we've seen him

1227
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 2: either from from preseason, this preseason, even last year, he

1228
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: just doesn't have the effort. So Galladays is off my

1229
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: list as well, And I'm on that note. Wandelle Robinson

1230
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: is one guy that's been really coming up my board,

1231
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: uh in that same vein just because you know, man,

1232
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 2: he's already the slot guy, super productive in college, early

1233
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: draft capital and and Daniel Jones loves throwing in the

1234
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 2: short intermediate areas. So I've I've really bumped up one

1235
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: dale and I'm completely out on Calladay.

1236
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: Wandale Moore. That's that's what I call him, because you

1237
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: remind that he could have that similar usage. I mean

1238
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: it didn't always translate into big fantasy days, but yeah,

1239
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: I think he obviously had a plan for him, you know,

1240
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: drafting him in the second round with all those holes

1241
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: on that roster and a pretty you know, an offensive

1242
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 1: staff taking over a pretty what's thought to be sharp GM,

1243
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, just organizationally, I think you have to kind

1244
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: of be bullish on Robinson and what his role is

1245
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: going to be. And I agree on Galladay too, like

1246
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: he's just not getting separations and like I just don't

1247
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: want those kind of guys on my team. Like it's like,

1248
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: you know that that's why we like Romeo Dobson, which

1249
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: that's why we like George Piggins like these guys can

1250
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: get open, like that's what's that's the path to being

1251
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: a fantasy a producer. It's not, you know, starting the

1252
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: year is like the nominal number one receiver and then

1253
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: having a bunch of like two three catch games and

1254
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: then getting you know, demoted like that's that's that's how

1255
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,479
Speaker 1: you draft the bust. So I'm with you there, Sean,

1256
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: what about you?

1257
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 3: So trail on Berks obviously don't need to go too

1258
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 3: much more in depth than him. Mike is SICKI is

1259
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: the one tight end I've been dropping quite a bit.

1260
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

1261
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: The one thing you were able to hang your hat

1262
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 3: on with him is at least he's running routes out there.

1263
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 3: He's actually a wide receiver. But you know, this new offens,

1264
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 3: this new scheme, this new coaching staff has been having

1265
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: him block in line a lot more in camp. So

1266
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 3: that's a huge concern. And we already were concerned about

1267
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: his target share with Tyriek Hill there, so I've been

1268
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 3: dropping him down closer to a mid range tight end.

1269
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: Two.

1270
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: And then Isaiah Spiller, like I hated where he's being drafted.

1271
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: You can get a guy like Melvin Gordon who can obvious,

1272
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 3: like he can maybe provide RB three flex value with

1273
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: Javonte Williams healthy there he has, you know, high end

1274
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: RB two upside of Javonte Williams goes down, or like

1275
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 3: an Alexander Madison, whenever Dalvin Cook misses time, you can

1276
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 3: get low end RB one value. That's kind of how

1277
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 3: I view Isaiah Spiller. He's gonna need us Necker to

1278
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: miss time to have any value. So and even then,

1279
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 3: we don't know who's really going to be the starting back.

1280
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 3: I guess apparently Joshua Kelly is beating out Spiller for

1281
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 3: the RB two and that's just embarrassing. So that's not

1282
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 3: good good news for Isaiah Spiller all. So, I just

1283
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 3: I can't understand his ADP right now. So you know,

1284
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: I'm completely off him. I'm moving even further down my

1285
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: rankings with his Joshua Kelly news. He's you know, Isaiah

1286
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: Spiller is a handcuff only guy.

1287
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that that's what happens.

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00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 1: You know, every year we're pretty bullsh on all the

1290
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: rookie running backs, as you know, we should be generally

1291
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: rookie running backs have you know, been able to like

1292
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: exceed fantasy, you know, ADP and they're smart investments, but

1293
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: you still have to go on a case by case basis,

1294
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: and you know, him not him kind of getting beat

1295
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: out by Kelly. You have to keep expectations in check.

1296
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: So so I'm with you there. For me, it's it's

1297
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones obviously, like he was going in that top

1298
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: forty five backs, and like it's just seems like a

1299
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: repeat of last year. Like it just doesn't look like

1300
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: he's going to get the role that we think he's

1301
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: going to get on one of these high powered offenses.

1302
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: And you know, he kind of reminds me of Carlos

1303
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: Hired a couple of years ago, wasn't Hide, Like, you know,

1304
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: like everyone thought he was going to be like the

1305
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: lead back on the Chiefs or something like that, or

1306
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: and then like he ends up getting traded or cut

1307
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: or something like. It just reminds me of of that,

1308
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: where it's like, I just don't think he's gonna have

1309
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: a role. I think he might end up being on

1310
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: a new team. But you know, early in the season,

1311
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: you know, Gibson, you know, Graham already talked about him.

1312
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: It's just you can't ignore all the noise like, I'm

1313
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: not dropping him like outside of the top thirty or anything,

1314
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: but he's definitely kind of more in the like the

1315
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: mid twenties. Now cam Aker is another one, you know,

1316
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: again just not dropping him crazy, But like Sean McVay

1317
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: has now over and over repeated, we said we want

1318
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: Henderson and Acres both and I'm treating them both like starters,

1319
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: and every everyone who's been at camp says they're both

1320
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: splitting first team reps pretty equally. So like, I think

1321
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: there's too much noise to kind of ignore with Acres.

1322
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: And maybe it was just that, like that that poor

1323
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: performance when when they rushed him back, Maybe that kind of,

1324
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: you know, scared McVeigh a little bit. And he says,

1325
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: because you see that happen all the time, you know,

1326
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: like you rely on like one guy, he gets hurt,

1327
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: and now you're like, all right, you know, we want

1328
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: to we want to use a committee just to keep

1329
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 1: these guys healthy for when it matters. So the Rams

1330
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: want to make a deep postseason run. They're the Super

1331
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: Bowl defending champs, and I think it kind of makes

1332
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: sense if they can serve Acres a little bit. So

1333
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: RB like seventeen eighteen fifteen, even where he's getting drafted

1334
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: just a little too high for me. Burk's already talked

1335
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: about him. I just don't think he should be drafted

1336
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: as a guy that you can get reliable production. I

1337
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: mean he could open the year as well as like

1338
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: the fifth receiver if McMath is going to be like there,

1339
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: like you know, situational deep threat, like it could be

1340
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: bad for Burks. And one more, the guy that I

1341
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: liked coming into the year is James Cook. I'm dropping

1342
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: because with the Zach Moss news, that just kind of

1343
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: means that, like there's a third guy involved here. So

1344
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: like Cook was already going to kind of be used

1345
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: like a Machissic who they tried to sign and then

1346
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: he renigged. But like now if there's another early down guy,

1347
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: Cook doesn't have that same you know, upside to you know,

1348
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: be like the Machissic role plus a little few extra

1349
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: early down carries, Like he might just be that that

1350
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: pass catcher, which you know, it's cool, but it's gonna

1351
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: be really tough to predict which games he's gonna go off.

1352
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: And I don't think he has quite as much upside

1353
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: as I thought he did, you know, with without Moss

1354
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: being involved, So like he's still getting drafted as like

1355
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: a fringe top forty guy, where I just think he

1356
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: he belongs more so you know that in that you know,

1357
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: outside of the top forty to be in that fifty

1358
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: range kind of like Isaiah Spiller. It's just like we

1359
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: don't know enough yet. And he's dealing with like a

1360
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: three way committee rather than a two. So that's another guy.

1361
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: All right, that's going to wrap it up for us

1362
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: here in our Fantasy Flex preseason stock watch pod. Graham

1363
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: really appreciated you coming on. You had a lot of

1364
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: great information. Tell everybody what's you're up to and where

1365
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: they can find you.

1366
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, this was great. Thank you guys for having me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm at grand Barfield on Twitter. You can follow me

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Speaker 2: there on the Twitter Machine. Everything I'm doing is at

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Points dot Com. We are cranking out just a

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Speaker 2: ton of content. I actually just came out with the

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Speaker 1: That's going to wrap it up. Remember you can find

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01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,880
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Speaker 1: our other episodes. We got a ton of episodes up

1386
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Speaker 1: where we're just going through all the different all the

1387
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: players at each position. You know, Matt Harmon for wide receivers,

1388
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Speaker 1: we had uh, we had Jake Sealey talking about running

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