WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Gates of Heck 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.360 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, production of My 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:10.880 Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:14.000 A listener mail. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.439 Joe McCormick. Agin. It's Monday, the day of the week 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:18.760 that we generally bring back some of the messages you 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.160 have sent us, So Rob, if you don't mind, I 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.639 think I'm gonna get started with this message from long 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.800 time correspondent Jim in New Jersey about our episode on 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:37.120 the Stargazer in the Well. Jim rights, Robert, Joe, and 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:41.800 Seth when you mentioned well astronomy and refresher for those 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.600 who it may have been a bit with the episode. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.400 We we talked in that episode about the long standing 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.559 belief that a person could stand at the bottom of 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.120 a well or at the bottom of a toll hollowed 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.920 out tower, and for some reason this would allow them 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.480 to see the stars in the daytime. We decided that 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.160 there doesn't seem to be any dents. That's actually true, 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.840 but for some reason a lot of people thought that. Anyway, 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.720 Jim says, when you mentioned well astronomy, I was sure 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:13.200 you'd tell my favorite well astronomy story. How Aratasthanes measured 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.440 the size of the Earth using a well. The well 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:20.119 at Saini in Egypt, and Saini is the place Uh 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:24.400 also at other times known as as one Uh. Saini 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:28.160 in Egypt is on the tropic of Cancer. At noon 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.280 on the summer solstice, if one looks into a well 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.720 at sain E, one sees a reflection of the Sun 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:39.720 at the bottom, since it's directly overhead. Eratasthanes measured the 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:44.680 angle of a shadow cast by a vertical rod in Alexandria. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.120 Assuming parallel rays of light from the sun, he could 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:53.120 easily determine the arc on a circle from Saini to Alexandria. Then, 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.280 with knowledge of the distance between the two places, he 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:00.160 could calculate the size of the Earth. His results were 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.720 within about one percent of the actual size. I wonder 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.120 how he felt when he realized that the Earth was 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.959 so much larger than their known parts. Students in different 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:14.040 schools could replicate this with the flagpoles at their schools. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.760 All that would be needed are two schools several hundred 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.880 miles north or south of each other, that is, mostly 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.920 on the same longitude. They would measure the angle of 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.600 the shadow cast by their flagpoles when the sun is 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.799 at its highest in the sky. By comparing the angles 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.799 and with knowledge of the distance between the two schools, 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:35.360 they should be able to reproduce similar results. Jim in 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.720 New Jersey. Uh, yeah, Jim, this is a great story. 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.000 And this is one of my favorite stories of somebody 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:45.799 figuring out figuring out something way before you might imagine 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:47.600 they had the tools to do so. So this is 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.720 an ancient Greek figure correctly calculating the size of the 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.760 Earth just by looking at shadows cast by objects under 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:59.840 the sun. Yeah, very interesting. Speaking of that Star Gazer 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:02.679 and Well episode, we had at least one person to 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.919 reach out and say, say, oh, did you guys cover 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:09.640 that because it was mentioned on the Josh Brolin Amazon 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:15.000 sci fi Western series Outer Range. And this apparently like 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.640 the episode of Outer Range that came out that week 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.760 that there's a character who has a bit where they're um, 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.040 they're referencing the story of you know, astronomer falling down 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:27.359 a well because they're looking up at the at the sky. Um. 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.160 But the funny thing is that my wife and I 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.360 are watching this series, but we were not current on it, 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.839 so we had not actually gotten to that episode yet 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.240 it just happened to be I guess a weird one 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.440 of those weird accidents where we happened to be covering 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.960 this topic just as it is referenced on a major 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.440 television show. I didn't even know what that show was, 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.480 so I had no idea. Yeah, it's a it's it's interesting, 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.760 it's got some weird music, and Will Patton plays a 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.800 like a crazy rancher guy, and there's a lot of 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.680 fun in it. So I would recommend it on on 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:08.440 the two counts nice. All right, Here is one that 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.160 comes to us from who is from Steve. Steve is 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.480 talking about the world Turtle. Just a shout out and 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.800 thank you for the delightful Monster Fact episode called Tortara 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:23.640 a Pokemon. I have long been enamored with turtles, turtle myths, 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.200 and turtle hybrid monsters. My son is the same age 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.280 as yours, and I enjoyed listening to your Pokemon expert speak. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.839 He did an excellent job. Thank you. I'll pass it 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.680 on to him. I was so glad you mentioned that 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.200 the turtle hybrid from the original Avatar the Last Airbender anime. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.120 You guys covered all the main turtle bases and even 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.440 referenced a few that are new to me. These legends 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.640 reminded me of my favorite passage from Stephen Hawkings classic 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.839 A Brief History of Time. A well known scientists, some 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:57.400 say it was Bertrand Russell once gave a public lecture 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.760 on astronomy. He described how the Earth the orbits around 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.840 the Sun, and how the Sun in turn orbits around 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.920 the center of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.400 At the end of the lecture, a little old lady 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.119 at the back of the room got up and said, 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.039 what you have told us is rubbish. The world is 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.359 really a flat plate supported on the back of a 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:19.160 giant tortoise. The scientists gave a superior smile before applying, 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:23.000 what is the tortoise standing on? You're very clever, young man, 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.240 very clever, said the old lady. But it's it's turtles 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.120 all the way down. Amusing as this story is, I 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.440 feel it bears repeating that many of these stories and 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:36.000 legends might have been intended to function metaphorically rather than 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.760 be accepted as literal truths. The examples you shared involved 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.719 a broad spectrum of visualizations, ranging from poetic conceptualization to 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.880 the kind of good, clean imaginative fun one can experience 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.359 reading a science fiction novel or a translation of an 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.880 ancient mythological story. All of these forms have the potential 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.760 to take one momentarily out of the mundane into the 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:59.040 realm of possibility. Even in the natural world. It takes 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.880 inspiration in an magination to develop theories which can be 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:07.000 tested as useful or misleading explanations of existential phenomenon. Your 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.520 inclusion and celebration of both kinds of thought is what 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.920 really set stuffed about your mind apart. May you live 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:16.840 long and podcast ever more. Steve Turtles all the way down, 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.360 you know, going back to the story about Bertrand Russell 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:23.920 or whoever it was, I years ago started making jokes 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.760 saying X all the way down on the podcast, and 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.200 then I noticed other people too. And I don't know 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.400 if that's just a coincidence or if I picked up 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.400 on other people just using that as a meme without 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:38.440 realizing it. But yeah, now probably people have heard a 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.320 joke of that format or that phrase turned into a 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.960 meme without understanding what the origin is. You know, they've 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.680 heard somebody say, oh, it's uh, you know, it's it's 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.640 TikTok all the way down or something crabs all the 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.960 way down, something like that. But that is that is 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.119 the origin of that phrase. There's also a subtle angle 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.000 to that story that I really like, which is that 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:03.880 it illustrates the way that uh, having a ready made 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:10.000 phrase in your language for something can easily uh cause 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.720 you to to sort of skip over assessing the logical 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.120 consistency of what you're talking about, because to say the 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.640 phrase all the way down means going all the way 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.560 to the bottom. But this is used in the sentence 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.680 to cause you to, uh, just don't worry about the bottom, 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:35.280 you know, alright. This next message is in response to 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.000 our series called Fire from the Rocks. These were episodes 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:42.520 about naturally fueled flames, things like coal seam fires and 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:47.400 natural gas field fires and auto igniting minerals and and 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.880 things like that. So this is from Daniel. Daniel says, Hi, 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.440 my name is Daniel. I'm a forty seven year old 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.080 radio broadcast or of twenty years in Australia. I listened 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.440 to all your shows and loved the stuff on Burning Mountain. 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:04.320 I was there in n for a family holiday when 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.200 I was thirteen. Image attached. I'm the kid with the 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:11.360 striped shirt. It was a weird moonlike ominous atmosphere which 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.000 stunk of sulfur. I would love to shoot part of 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.280 a sci fi movie there, anyway, keep it up and 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:20.520 I love the show. Cheers, Daniel, and so Robbie attached 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.800 this photo for you to look at. But Daniel, in 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.160 the photo, I see you're actually walking around on the 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.680 ground on the bar patch, and I think, I don't 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.320 know if you're allowed to do that today. But there 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.440 is an observation deck in the more recent photos I've seen, 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.280 which leads me to believe that at least the park 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.160 is trying to get people to stay up on the 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.200 deck rather than walking on the scalded area. Uh. And 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.800 I wonder if you were walking on the bear patch, 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.280 the sculpted area, like, how hot was the ground or 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.720 was it any hotter than than the the you know, 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:57.079 the part that still had grass on it. All right, 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.600 here's another one. This one comes to us from Nabil 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.199 and it is titled The Gates of Hell. Hi, Robert 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:07.040 and Joe, your recent episodes on long burning fires reminded 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:12.280 me of an existing fire located in Turkmenistan in the 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:17.200 Kharkom Desert. A fiery crater about sixty nine meters two 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:22.000 six feet in diameter and thirty deep, has been burning 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:26.400 since nineteen The Darvaza gas Crater, also known as the 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.600 Gates of Hell, is a burning natural gas field collapsed 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:34.320 into a cavern near dar Vasa, Turkmenistan. It is believed 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.560 that Soviet geologists intentionally set it on fire in nineteen 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.480 seventy one to prevent the spread of methane gas, and 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.280 it is thought to have been burning continuously ever since. 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:45.760 It was estimated that the gas would burn out within 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.400 a few weeks, but it has instead continued to burn 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.880 for more than fifty years and is expected to keep 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.719 on burning. Images of this fiery crater are worth looking up. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.880 I have attached some below, and then yes, slow and 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:03.120 behold some wonderful images of this crater. I imagine that 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.120 a lot of you out there have probably seen these before. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:10.240 They frequently pop up in like image galleries of of 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:14.480 impressive sites around the world, um nabile and ins and 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.480 out there by saying, big fan of the show, I 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.640 really enjoy the wide array of topics covered, especially such 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.680 topics that wouldn't usually get attention elsewhere. Keep up the 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.400 great work. Yeah, thanks Nabile. Yeah, this is a really 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.000 interesting site, and I'm sure it looks even cooler in 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:39.559 the dark. I think, yeah, it seems too okay. I 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.839 guess next Well, after this next message, we're gonna be 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.160 getting into weird house cinema, but this one will form 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.000 a nice bridge. So Drew writes in about the Fire 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:54.199 from the Rocks episodes, subject line Centralia, pop Culture, missed connection, 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.199 Drew says, Hi, Rob and Joe, longtime listener, first time writer. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.840 I love the mix of topic that you guys cover 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.959 and how you incorporate research, history, mythology, and pop culture. 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.120 I wanted to point out another film or video game 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:12.400 reference related to the town of Centralia, Pennsylvania. Centralia is 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.280 said to be a partial inspiration for the town in 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:19.600 the video game series and later film Silent Hill. The 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.559 games started as a horror suspense series, similar to the 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.360 first couple of Resident Evil games. Not sure if it's 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.719 too recent or mainstream a movie for a Weird House 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.960 Cinema episode, but could be an interesting one to tackle 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.280 in the future. Appreciate all you do with the pod. 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:37.200 Thank you, Drew. Oh, I mean it is Christoph gonz 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.040 I'd love to talk about the Gons at some point 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.040 on the show this. This is funny because I have 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:49.839 a very very specific memory, a lucid memory about someone thinking, uh, 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.760 Silent Hill was weird, because I saw this in the 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.680 theater with a friend of mine when it came out, 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:59.480 and a girl in the theater near me answered her 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:04.040 telephone while the movie was playing, and what I remember 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.280 her saying was in a very East Tennessee accent. She 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.040 was like, she was like, I'm in a movie. Yeah, 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:17.920 it's weird, it's weird. I remembered having some fun weird elements, 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:22.400 and it had a great pyramid head in it, so yeah. 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.280 I I have not thought about that film and a while. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.160 I haven't played one of those games that forever, but 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:30.040 I remember really loving Silent Hill too, especially and being 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.360 really drawn into the setting. I don't remember anything about 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.760 mining in it, but I remember there being like, you know, 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.800 it's a weird wizard prison under the town and you're 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.800 trying to figure out how that loops into everything else 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:45.320 and some locked doors. I actually never played any of 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:46.840 these games, so I know a bit, but all my 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.880 friends were into them at a time when I didn't 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.120 have the PlayStation or whatever. I would have needed to 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.760 play this, but all my friends loved it. And uh, 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:55.640 I know, one of the things about at least the 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.439 first game, maybe some of the later ones too, is 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.480 that everything's covered in fog, Like you can't and see 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.600 very far ahead of you in that right, rob, like 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:06.000 a lot of fog. And and I wonder if that's 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.600 something that was originally a technological limitation that later got 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.640 rhet coon into a piece of the setting for its 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:18.120 own purposes. Like originally, if you have fog everywhere, you 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.079 don't have to do do as much render distance well 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.760 when you're you know, creating the polygons in the environment. 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.000 But of course I guess that turns into its own 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.480 scary atmospheric thing, which works well in a horror game. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.760 And then later you could say, oh, yeah, that's because 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.720 of all the fumes coming up from the ground. There's 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.000 actually a coal seam fire in this town. So I 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.959 always like things like that, you know. I was actually 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.360 just speaking of of ghastly leaking up from the ground 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.200 and tying into our last listener mail that we read there. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:52.200 I was reading in Yokai Attack by Hiroko Yoda and 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.920 Matt Altum, and there's a bit on one of the 0:13:56.000 --> 0:14:00.520 yokai named Koonaki Gigi, which is like the little old 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.719 man in the encounter. He's like a he looks he 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.360 may look like a baby, but he's an old man 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.680 and if you pick him up, he grows in size 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.319 and crushes you. Um. But in in that book, the 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:15.360 author's point to a possible explanation for this being linked 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:21.520 to methane fumes from decomposing organic material, Like people go 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.440 out on the foot into a like a really rich 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:27.240 forest environment, they're overcome by the methane fumes and then 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:33.200 they hallucinate. Uh, Kannaki Gigi here, that's brutal. Yeah, I 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.720 haven't researched it further, so I don't know if there's 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.880 how robust that theory is. Uh, But it's a fun 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.680 little yokai, like like many of the okai yokai are 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:45.160 so much fun. Also, now that I know about this 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.240 link to the Silent Hill Games, that means there's a link, 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.080 a clear link between the Silent Hill Games and the 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.680 film Nothing But Trouble. And I think this is how 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.680 you bring the Silent Hill Games back. We haven't had 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.640 a proper Silent Hill game in a while. They need 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:02.280 to join together the Nothing but Trouble universe and the 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:07.560 Silent Hill Universe into one cohesive video game experience. Dan 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:18.000 Ackroyd's next venture, pyramid Head Vodka. All right, well let's 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.440 get into weird house cinema here. Here's one. This one 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.240 concerns Planet of the Vampires. And I think we'd asked 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.800 the question, well, what are some of the best planets 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:32.000 surface sets ever to be featured in a science fiction film? 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:35.640 So James writes in and says, Hi, guys, I'm going 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.000 to redefine best here to best at being a set. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.800 I nominate the generic cave set from Deep Space nine, 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.880 referring to Star Trek The Space nine. Uh. The set 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.720 itself is okay. It's a decent job of fiberglass and 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:53.000 stucco for a weekly spinoff show. What it lacks in glamour, 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.280 it makes up in persistence. It is the hardest working 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.960 cave in show business. Every Deep Space nine episode involving 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:04.480 anything remotely underground uses that same set. They change the 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.520 lighting of what they scatter on the floor, and the 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.800 camera angles, but once you see it, you can't un 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.920 see it. I never noticed when watching the original show, 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:17.240 but when you can binge watch something you notice these things. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.160 Most sci fi does this to some extent, but I 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.920 think that that set is in as many episodes as 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.400 it isn't in. They do a really good job of 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.760 disguising it for the first few seasons, but by the 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.440 end of the show they are just adding a few 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:34.720 alien knickknacks and some side lighting or something well, not spectacular. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.840 If we rank it on cost per entertainment unit, this 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.640 has most sets beat. Possibly the only thing to beat 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:45.240 it in that department isn't a set but this thing. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.000 Oh and then James links to a video that I 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:52.400 went and watched that is a massive compilation of every 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.880 movie and TV show, including a lot of Star Trek 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.600 episodes that use this random sci fi set piece of 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.160 It's like these two metal housings with a tube in 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.119 between them, and they seem to be shooting red lasers 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.080 back and forth, but inside the tube. Oh wow, yes, 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:09.560 I'm I'm looking at this now. It shows up in 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:13.480 the Last Starfighter. Oh yeah, Dan o'herley, he and Monster 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.480 makeup going like, oh what are you doing? And then 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.720 it's just that thing behind him. Yeah, it looks like 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.600 we had some incredible whole TV show in there. Oh 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.320 my goodness. Uh yeah, I've definitely seen this thing before, 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.680 but I've never really put it together that it is 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.600 showing up in other shows, including Star Trek the Next Generation. 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:35.560 It's crucial to defeating Zoo in the Code and Armada. Well, 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:40.560 speaking of Star Trek TV series planet surface sets again, 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.160 I don't want to be unkind because I know a lot. 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.480 I know everybody loves uh Star Trek the Next Generation, 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:48.840 and I know I would probably love it too if 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.159 I made it far enough in the series. But I, 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.679 as I've admitted on the show multiple times before, I 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.600 sort of like tried the first season and couldn't really 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.520 get further than that. Uh. And one of the things 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.200 that I found most hilarious about it was the planet 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.840 surface sets, many of which to me appeared to be 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:10.840 like what looked like a nineteen eighties like family portrait 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.200 photos studio full of potted plants and just shooting people 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:18.720 from the knees up so you don't see the pots. Yeah. Yeah, um, 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.520 I don't remember the earlier the first season that much. 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:23.440 The main thing I remember about the first season from 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.359 back when I was watching all these in junior and 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:29.640 I is that the the the the the uniforms look 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.280 a lot rougher that first season. There seemed to be 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.680 some huge advancements that were made in subsequence of seasons 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:41.080 regarding just how um authentic the costumes look like. They 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.120 looked like the actors were maybe more comfortable in them, 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.840 though I've also read that the the the actors were 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:51.560 just sort of uniform universally uncomfortable in those outfits for 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.440 like the whole run of the series. So I don't know. Yeah, 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.240 but it comes back to something we've talked about before 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.120 in the show. In your science fiction, if you've got 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:02.240 a good looking jumpsuit, done matter, I guess how comfortable 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.480 it is. But if it looks good, a good jumpsuit, 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:08.120 a good uniform will go a long ways towards creating 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.359 this feeling of some some future society. Oh yeah, there's 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.640 there's Planet of the Vampires right there. Those those uniforms 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:20.560 that Planet of the Vampires look uh, agreedient like they 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.760 they do not breathe. Those cur members are just cooking 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:26.960 in their own juices. Now, that is a cast that 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.480 had a lot of very attractive people in it, But 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.160 so this may explain it. But another thing I would 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:37.359 say is that nobody looks like severely awkward in those uniforms, 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.479 and that is that is sometimes the case with your 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.920 sci fi uniforms. Uh. And I come back to Santa 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.760 Claus conquers the Martians in this The Martians had these outfits, 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.320 and some of the actors fill those outfits out enough, 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.640 some look a little bit awkward in them. So that's 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.520 always uh something as well, especially when you're dealing with 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.520 alien outfits that are basically leotard's or some other kind 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.960 of you know, awkward costume that's going to ultimately make 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.040 all but the fittest of of of people on the 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.600 cast look a little silly. And then sometimes they're really 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.159 fit acts look ridiculous in them too, So you know, 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.480 nobody has ever looked awkward in a Star Trek episode. 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:15.760 Oh and by the way, all the all the Trekkies 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:19.160 who are you're now composing lists of the best Next 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.160 Generation episodes to send me? This has happened before, when 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.200 I've admitted this on the show before that I didn't 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.239 make it past the first season. I know, I know 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.800 there's good next Generation stuff. I'm not denying that. I 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.520 just haven't made it to it yet. So don't worry 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:40.480 I'm not I'm not slagging your favorite. Alright, looks like 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:42.560 we have one more Planet of the Vampires email you 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:44.560 want to get this one? Joe? Oh sure, this is 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:48.119 from Jim, not Jim in New Jersey. Different Jim, this 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.760 is a This is a two gym party today, Jim says, Hey, guys, 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.879 I watched Planet of the Vampires over the weekend, fun 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.480 weird house film. As always, I was struck in the 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.479 beginning of the film how much the planet they ended on, 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:04.679 Aura looked like Neptune in nineteen sixty five. We hadn't 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.280 had fly by's yet to see what the outer planets 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.520 looked like. It would make more sense at the end 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:11.600 of the movie when they decided to come to Earth 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.720 if they were already in our Solar system their only 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:18.520 problem Colon. Without the meteor rejector, they might have a 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.280 rough time getting past the asteroid belt. Keep up the 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:25.200 great work, and thanks for all the great weird movies, Jim. Oh, 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:28.080 thank you Jim. And that's a question I do not 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.280 know the answer to. What is the what is the 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.880 actual chance of of running into a sizeable enough rock 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:37.040 to have a problem. Uh, if you're flying a spaceship, 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.480 around in our Solar system, past past the orbit of 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:41.800 mars Um. You know this has come up on the 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.080 show before, hasn't it discussing the distance between these objects 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:48.280 that that in many cases, like we we're dealing with 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:53.520 with rather large distances. So yeah, I don't know that, 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.520 uh that that our aliens here would have been in 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.520 tremendous risk. Though then again, I guess it would depend 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:00.680 partially on how fast you're going, because if you're going 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.920 really fast and you run into something even very tiny, 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:08.120 that could cause major damage, right right, Yeah, I guess 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.359 speed is a fact. Like it it's we're probably reading 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:15.000 too much into it, but I guess the meteor ejector 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.119 it makes it seem like maybe this is so that 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:22.680 the the vehicle can travel at a speed uh sufficient 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:26.359 enough to make just about anything it might run into lethal. 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.280 So um, I don't know, I'm not sure where I 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:32.040 follow on this question. Yeah, the argus and the galley, 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.760