1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. George 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Nori with you, Doctor Rita Louise with us her book 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Stepping out of Eden. Next hour we'll take phone calls 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: with her. Louise, let's talk about the Garden of Eden, 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: of course, and Satan. Do you think that creature was real? 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: I have a very interesting take on the whole thing. Okay. 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: One of the things that we find in the mythic 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: record is a very consistent narrative that happened that between 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: the sky gods, which are the Caucasian white hair beard, 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: white flowing road people, and then these fertility gods that 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: are described as being the half man, half snake characters. 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: So the mythic records suggests that these fertility gods actually 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: were the first inhabitants on the earth, and a war 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: occurred between these sky gods and the fertility gods, and 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: the sky gods won, and as they say, you know, 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: the victors write the history. And my feeling is is 18 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: that these half men, half snake individuals who lived on 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: the earth, who lived either in the depths of the 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: earth or beneath the waters of the earth. Were they 21 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: always earth bound? They were ets. They came to this 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: planet correct um. But they were vilified. And as time 23 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: moved forward, you know, the basic concept of these guys 24 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: are bad and you don't want to hang out with them, 25 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: and you know, you want to listen to us, the 26 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: sky gods, and not to these guys has moved forward. 27 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: And I think that the concept of Satan just is 28 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: another iteration of the same battle that they talk about 29 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: in myth around the world with Satan, you know, I 30 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: mean in the Garden of Eden, he is portrayed or 31 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: as being a serpent, or if you look at like 32 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: Michelangelo's picture image of the Temptation of Man, you know, 33 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: Adam and Eve are in the Garden of Eden, except 34 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: Satan has the upper body of a person with serpent legs, 35 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: you know. And so even the iconography, the imagery that 36 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: we have of that character has moved forward in time. 37 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: Why why come here? What was the purpose was it? 38 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: The Zecharia Sitchen theory of the gold in the atmosphere? 39 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: Why come here? I mean the mythic record, you know. 40 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: And I said this a little earlier, but I'll knew it. 41 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: This is even more, it's very silent on the why 42 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: part of things. You know, when I was researched the 43 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: book et Chronicles, there's an entire chapter just devoted to 44 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: the looking for Gold park. And you know, I think 45 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: zach Ary Sichen has great work, did great research, but 46 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: I never could find the gold as far as a 47 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: reference for them using it for their planet. I could 48 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: not find references where there are cultures that are digging 49 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: for goals. I mean, George, I spent literally a month, 50 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: ten to twelve hours a day online going through books 51 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: looking for the gold, and I never could find it, 52 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: at least not in that context. One of the things 53 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: that I conjecture in it is that they used gold 54 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: to actually cover their bodies, you know, because it is 55 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: a UV protectant, and so that they were you know, 56 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: because they don't really spend the gods really didn't spend 57 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: a lot of time on Earth, at least that's what 58 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: it suggests, and so that they would come here and 59 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: so that they use the gold as kind of a 60 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: UV protectant when they were on the earth, which is 61 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: why we have you know, the gods being identified as 62 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: the Golden One, or we find in Egypt, for example, 63 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: when you talk about the god kings, the Pharaoh is 64 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: buried and they're buried with a gold death mask, and 65 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: we find that tradition of this gold death mask very consistent, 66 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: and that mask makes them look like one of the gods, 67 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: and it allows them to go into the heavens and 68 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: be immortal like God, which to me infers that they 69 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: were coding themselves with the gold and that might be 70 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: why they were digging it up. Was used to protect 71 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: themselves from UV radiation versus sending it to a different planet. 72 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: Where did they go, Rita, they're disappeared? I think. I 73 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: don't think so, George. You think they're here mixed in 74 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: with us, you know that whole You know, there are 75 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: certain rabbit holes that I have some issues about jumping into. 76 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: This is one of them. Well, and that whole human 77 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: alien hybrid thing, you know, like in antiquity, I can 78 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: wrap my mind around it a whole lot easier than 79 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: I can contemporary. But you know, if somebody came and 80 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: they liked their eyes, like did the lizard thing, you know, 81 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: like they say, you know, the Queen of England can do, 82 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: I'd be good with it. But I think that you know, 83 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: the UFO sightings that we see are there are a 84 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: percent that are extraterrestrials that are still coming here. You know. 85 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: We hear stories of the reptilians living in underground bases, 86 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: you know. And I would relate the reptilians to the 87 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: half man half serpent gods. I mean, if you think 88 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 1: about that just verbal description, half man, half serpent or lizard, 89 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: it could be a humanoid with reptile kind of skin, 90 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: even though the pictures we draw of it don't look 91 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: that way, you know, I think that they still could 92 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: be here on the earth. Again, some of this is 93 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: like rabbit holes that you know, I don't like going down, 94 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: you know. But then there's the whole David Ike thing. 95 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what you feel about him. 96 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: He's been many times, he's been with us, you know, 97 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: and he suggests that humanity is just you know, a 98 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: food source for these extraterrestrials, and that narrative, you know, 99 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: based on some of the stuff that we see, kind 100 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: of holds up. And I'm going to give kind of 101 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: a funny example, but did you see that movie Monsters, Inc. 102 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: You know, it was the animated you know, and so 103 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: basically you know, it was an animated show movie. It 104 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: was actually pretty fun. And the monsters would they had 105 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: a machine so that they could get into the closet 106 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: of little kids and in the middle of the night 107 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: they would open the door and scare the little kids 108 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: that they would have a fearful emotional response, and from 109 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: that emotional response, they would save that energy and that's 110 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: what powered their city. So it was it was an industry. 111 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: And it kind of makes me wonder because we are 112 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: moving into and we have been. We society makes us 113 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: be fear based. You know, that happens. You know, you 114 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: have building or planes crashing into the twin towers. You know, 115 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: we have these traumas that happen just make us more fearful. 116 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: You know, Agriculture got us to move into cities, and 117 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: so there's the dynamics of massive people living in cities. 118 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: You know, that brings up more fear because you have 119 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: more theft than murderers and stuff going on, and so 120 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: that's another possibility of what's going on, you know, and 121 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: there's a certain level of confusion. And I'm going to 122 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: use the Sumerian name. I'm going to use Ankie because 123 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: I think people are familiar with that. You know, Inkie 124 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: was one of these fertility gods that half men have 125 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: serpent kind of character, you know, suggested as being the 126 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: serpent in the Garden of Eden, and he is identified 127 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: as being the creator, the genetic engineer of humanity, and 128 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: so people are like, okay, well why would he create us? Um, 129 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, so there's that whole negative thing that you know, 130 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: we're just giant batteries for them. But in the same breath, 131 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: he's also the one that gave us education, gave us fire, 132 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, So there are these very beneficial things that 133 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: have come from him or that group, But in the 134 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: same breath as they give us technology, it puts us 135 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: into a more mental frame versus a more spiritual frame 136 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: where we're more connected with source, you know, and more 137 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: connected with our truth. So it's a little bit of 138 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: a conundrum of what the reality is the mythic record 139 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: doesn't tell us. And it would be really nice if, 140 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, one of these extraterrestrials that are hanging around 141 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: here would just you know, fill us in. What do 142 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: you think of the alien abduction phenomenon? You know, for 143 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: a long time I had an issue with it, but 144 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: I am coming more to terms with it. On a 145 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: personal note, I feel like, you know, I've become friends 146 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: with all right. I'm having a little brain for it here, 147 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: Travis Travis Walton. Yeah, and um, you know, and I 148 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: mean you know that I do psychic work and work 149 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: as a medical intuitive. I mean I can kind of 150 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: read people good, you know, and something happened to him. 151 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: And you meet people that claim abduction experiences, and from 152 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: an energetic perspective, something happened to them. And I try 153 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: not to be nosy and life look at their stuff, 154 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: but it's just obvious that there's a huge PTSD situation 155 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: going on with them. And it's you know, so I 156 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: think that, you mean, something traumatic happened to me, something 157 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: majorly mature, And they all passed Lie detector tests. Yes, 158 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: what does that tell you? It tells me that something 159 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: majorly happened to that. Sure, and it also tells me 160 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: whatever happened to them, they believe it happened to them, 161 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: and that's importantly well, and for some of these people, 162 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of like they have no motivation to make 163 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: up some of this because some of these people are 164 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: the most gracious and humble individuals on the planet and 165 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: aren't out there looking to have their fifteen minutes of fame. 166 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: You know. I think that if they could give it back, 167 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: they would more than happily give it back and not 168 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: have the same not have the trauma. Yeah, Travis did 169 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: not expect a book and movie to be done about 170 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: this situation about his life, Fire in the Sky. He 171 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: didn't expect that at all when this tragedy or this 172 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: thing happened to him. Hm, I'm not sure it was 173 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: a tragedy. What do you think it was this jarring 174 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: for him, you know, and it just seems like it 175 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: was just very traumatizing for him, you know. And you know, 176 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: I've never really talked to him about his road to 177 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: wellness and road to wholeness. You know. I think that 178 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: having more and more people in the community believe him 179 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,119 Speaker 1: and support him, that you know, this is a phenomenon 180 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: that could actually happen versus when it happened in the 181 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: first place, you know, people are like, ah, he's crazy, 182 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, and having to deal with that, I mean, 183 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: I think that part is really hard where nobody believes 184 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: you do. You have this experience, and nobody believes you, 185 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: and so now you're questioning yourself like, did this really 186 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: happen to me? And am I really just crazy and 187 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: having a psycho break or a psychotic break? And so 188 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: it makes it so that you can be more comfortable 189 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: in your skin. And so I'm really glad that you 190 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 1: know there are people out there that share their experiences 191 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: with people. You know, I know that there's a number 192 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: of different groups for experiencers. You know. I'm gonna have 193 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: to tell you, you know, ghosts I've seen. I've never 194 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: seen a UFO. I've seen two UFOs. I didn't think 195 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: I ever would, but I did with night vision goggles 196 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: up in northern California a few years ago, and they 197 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: were remarkable. They were very small, but they made ninety 198 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: degree turns. They stopped, they kept going way up in 199 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: the sky at night with night vision goggles. But I've 200 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: never seen anything like that before. Bugs don't go and 201 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: stop and make ninety degree turns and stop, nor do satellites. 202 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: It was something. Wow. I don't know what it was, 203 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: but it was something and not something normal that you 204 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: would that should definitely not normal. Definitely not listen to 205 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one a m. 206 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: Eastern and go to Coast to coast am dot com 207 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: for more