1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: player for you see, Steve a blimp. We're not even 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: in the stragedyre of normalcy. Welcome to a Friday edition 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: of One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker here along with my 6 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: co host for the day, Eric Would, former center of 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills radio voice of the Buffalo Bills football games, 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: the analyst. He's coming on with us live from his 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: home down in Louisville, Kentucky, Ewood. How are you, man, 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: It's great to have you on the show. I'm doing great. 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: It's great to be with you. I wish I could 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: be up there in person, but hopefully that'll happen before 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: too long. We get to see some familiar faces, but um, 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: it's great to be on with you today. You're like 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: five hundred miles maybe more than five hundred. You're like 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: a you know, fifteen hundred miles south of us as 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: the hurricane hit you are you starting to get fall 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: out from Laura coming up north? You were? I think 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: you're right the first time with the five but we 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: are starting to get it now and it should pass 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: through tomorrow. Morning. So this was an absolutely perfect day 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: for me to hop on one Bills live because I 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to got and play golf anyways. 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: All right, and it's my normal Friday afternoon routine. Good stuff. Well, 25 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: we got a lot of stuff to talk about. One 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: of the things that happened yesterday after the scrimmage, the 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: Bills released kicker and veteran kicker Stephen Haushka, and also 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: the punter they signed last week who had been the 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: four years with the Jets, Lachlan Edwards. Both those guys 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: have been released. I don't know that that means they're 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: all set and done with Tyler Bass and Corey Borchez 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: going forward, but for now they're the only kicker and 33 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: punter on the roster. And you know, this seems like 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: they found something out yesterday. It was a really I 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: don't know if you heard about this scrimmage yesterday down 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: in Louisville, Eric, but very windy, really tough condition. It 37 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: was a sunny day, it was nice and warm and 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: all that, but man, oh man, there was like a 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: thirty nine wind coming across the deck down on the 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: field and it was reeking have with the passing game, 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: and obviously the kicking game as well. So you know 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: what that's like in that stadium when the wind kicks up, absolutely, 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: and it's different for most stadiums. You get the spiraling 44 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: wind in there. It's not a one directional win, and 45 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: that's tough for kickers and punters to navigate. And that's 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: where experience in the stadium helps. And that's where maybe 47 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: they're not done right now with this rookie kicker, but 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: it's a great sign for their drafted kicker that he 49 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: was able. It appears to have beaten out Steven House. 50 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: God assuming that there's nothing from a health standpoint or 51 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: anything going on with Stephen. I got to play with 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: Stephen unbelievable professional, had some great years with the Bills. 53 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the reason we were able 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: to make that twenty seventeen run of the playoffs was 55 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: because of Steven House. Could go seven for nine from 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: over fifty yards that season, and a lot of those 57 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: coming in our home stadium, which is extremely tough to 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: kick in. So got a ton of respect for Steve. 59 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: Hopefully he lands on his feet somewhere, but this is 60 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: a great sign for the future of the Bills. If 61 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: you can get a rookie like this a he's cheaper 62 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: a few years. It's great on the salary camp, but 63 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: maybe we get a long term answer at kicker. You know, 64 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: a guy that can have a long run, similar to 65 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: like a Ryan Lindell. And then Corey Horkers. This is 66 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: a great sign. You know, Corey Horkers was actually down 67 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: in Louisville training at the gym I owned down here 68 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: in this offseason, putting in a ton of work and 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: I know he was working as well on his punting 70 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: as well. Maybe we see more consistency out of him 71 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: this year. That would have been my one knock on 72 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: him last year was that he was just inconsistent. And 73 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: so hopefully we see more consistency out of him this 74 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: year and maybe, and I'm assuming that's what the Bill's 75 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: front office saw through the start of training camp, and 76 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: that's why they're essentially having him is the only punter 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: on the roster right now. That's rights And that's not 78 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: only that We've got that going on with the starting 79 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: to get a little bit of an inkling of where 80 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: the coaches are going in certain position groups. We also 81 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: have today Mattie Glab's gonna come on and talk with us. 82 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: We have sound bites from Brian day Ball and Leslie Frasier, 83 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: the two coordinators for the Buffalo Bills, and at two o'clock. 84 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: Special treat for me anyway, is that Jim Kelly, hall 85 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback, and Steve Young, hall of Fame quarterback, 86 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: are gonna be on the show together at the in 87 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: the two o'clock hour to talk about the no punt 88 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: game from nineteen ninety two. I took part in that game, 89 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: Eric and I had great seats. Man, I gotta stand 90 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: right next to Marv on the sidelines, right. And it's 91 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: a fantastic game, a lot of fun one that was 92 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: for a long time it was the only punt in 93 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: history and the NFL that had gone the entire game 94 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: without a punt. So now there's been four of them. 95 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: There have been three since then, but what a game 96 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: it was. We've got both quarterbacks coming on, Jim Kelly, 97 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: who threw for over like like four hundred and eight 98 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: yards or something that game, and Steve Young who threw 99 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: for four hundred and eighty some yards in that game. 100 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: It was so fun to watch as a football game. 101 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I remember people thinking you've probably heard 102 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: moments like this too, Eric worse, a game like this 103 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: will happen, and on the world in which we live, everybody, 104 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, knee jerks and kind of overreact to everything. 105 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: But they say, Wow, that's where the NFL is heading. 106 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: That's where it's gonna go. The NFL is gonna have 107 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: these thirty four thirty one games, and defenses are gonna 108 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: have to make great plays to get a stop. There's 109 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: not gonna be anither stifling defense anymore. The game's gonna 110 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: open up. Yetta. Well, it didn't really happen like that, 111 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: but it was really a historic game that a lot 112 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: of people remember. I remember particularly because, and I've said 113 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: this before, I've I was on the field when we 114 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: knelt down at the end of the game. I've never 115 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: seen all these Hall of famers and they were we 116 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: were they were excited. We were all really excited because 117 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: you went on the road and beat a really good 118 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: football team. You know what that's like, Man, you win 119 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: a game nobody thought you were gonna win. They thought 120 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: you were done. They thought our run. We had been 121 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: to a couple of Super Bowls, so they thought, okay, 122 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: that's They've had their little window now and we went 123 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: out to San Francis gonna beat you know, Steve Young 124 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: and Jerry Rice and that crew. It was a pretty 125 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: good feeling. And I remember being in that huddle in 126 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: the h as we were kneeling down and Kent Haul 127 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly, they were all just giddy with how excited 128 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: we were to have won that game. Yeah, I bet 129 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: that plane ride home was no fun. And but I'm 130 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: sad I'm getting kicked off the segment. Kicked off the 131 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: show for that segment, that would be awesome. I can't 132 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: wait to listen to that conversation as those highlights when 133 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: it's amazing to me how many of those guys are 134 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: still around. Pete Metzler's was a coach in Buffalo, got 135 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: to play for him, see Thurman Thomas, who obviously is 136 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: around the community so much up in Buffalo. It's amazing 137 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: when you have a special run like that, how often 138 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: those guys come back. They are part of things. So 139 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: sad Jim Kelly couldn't have his full tournament in early 140 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: June because that's such a fun weekend where I get to, 141 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, hear stories from all those days. But man, man, 142 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: what a special thing is that you mentioned going out 143 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: and winning that game out there when no one expected 144 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: you to. My favorite story of a game that you 145 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: all won going into the game as underdogs is about 146 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: the Raiders game at home in the cold and snow 147 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game. Yeah, that was that fifty 148 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: one to three game. Yeah, we were at home and 149 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: we'd never been to Super Bowl, didn't you know. You 150 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: never know you can get there until you get there, right, 151 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: And the Raiders were really good. They had pushed us 152 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: around early in the season. We actually escaped from a 153 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: win with a win earlier in that. I think that 154 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: was earlier in the season, the TNT game. I'm thinking anyway, 155 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: the rate we played seemed like we played the Raiders 156 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: like every other week back in the nineties, and we 157 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: were both two good teams. They were at the top 158 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: of their division, we were the top of ours, and 159 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: weeks tend to cross pass a bunch. The fifty one 160 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: to three game is one of those games where that 161 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: was probably the high water mark for that club, even 162 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: though we went on and won a ton more games, 163 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: and we had the comeback game and all and a 164 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: bunch of other memorable games. Uh, There's no question that 165 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: was the week and the game where it looked like 166 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills were the best team in the National 167 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: Football League and it was gonna be. It was gonna 168 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: be a while before anything changed. We had great players 169 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: playing well, and yeah, that was a that was a 170 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: fun game. It's funny. I don't know. Maybe you can 171 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: relate to this too, Eric. I don't really go back 172 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: and watch those games too much. I don't really think 173 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: about him, and I've seen them like on replays now. 174 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: But those games, when you think back to the fact 175 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: that you were actually in them, man, oh man, what 176 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: a blur. It's hard to remember specific things. For me. 177 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: I just kind of remember the entire event as one 178 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: big thing. You know. There's the details get lost in 179 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: the in the years that go by, and I know 180 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: a lot of Bills fans can remember a lot of 181 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: specific things about these games, because I've heard literally dozens 182 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: upon dozens of stories from fans who were I was 183 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: sitting right here and that happened, and I saw you 184 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: do this, and I saw Jim Kelly do that, and 185 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: I saw Bruce do that. It's that kind of thing. 186 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: The player, it's fun to be the player. When you 187 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: when fans come up and say that to you, But 188 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: you do you remember details from games? And what kind 189 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: of details do you remember if you do well? First off, 190 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: how about this one Bill's live production team. I mentioned 191 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: a game out of nowhere on them and they pull 192 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: up clips from it immediately, round of applause. I've done 193 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: enough of this to know with other gigs that that's 194 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: that's impressive work. So job well done there. I see 195 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: your pointing real quick on that Raiders game. So Will 196 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: Wolford has become a close friend of mine in Louisville, 197 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: and he can literally lock in any group at any 198 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: time when he tells the story about the old Raiders 199 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: walking with Al Davis through your warm up lines to 200 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: the other end of the field and an ultimate side 201 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: of disrespect. They're all in their fur jackets and their 202 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: deck to the nines that you know, coming from California, 203 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: and it's snowing and they're freezing, and they walked right 204 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: through the middle of the warm ups. And then Marv, 205 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: I guess in the pregame, and you could correct me 206 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: if Will fabricates this said, well, men, I don't think 207 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: anything needs to be said at this point because once 208 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: they showed that disrespect. It was on and to be 209 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: a home underdog and then go out and win fifty 210 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: one to three is just absolutely insane. But to your 211 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: point of remembering individual details, the things I remember, and 212 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: I think most athletes are like this. The things I 213 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: remember are generally some bad plays. I don't remember a 214 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: lot of pancake blocks, blocks on screens where I'm out 215 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: in space. I don't remember a ton of touchdowns, but 216 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: I do remember fumbled snaps. My one lasting memory of 217 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: my last game is a sack I gave up. And 218 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: the reason I gave it up is because I had 219 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: picked up their signals. I had some help pregame from 220 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: former people that were on their staff, and they said, hey, 221 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: if they use these this terminology, this is what it is. 222 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: Early in the game, it held up and I took 223 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: a set on Malie Jackson, their nose guard. On third down, 224 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: he would play nose. He would bumped into them three 225 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: to the nose, and they start calling out their blitz scheme. 226 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: I knew exactly what it was. I shifted our protection. Well, 227 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm not even looking at Malie Jackson. He just swiped 228 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: my hands down and go straight up the field. And 229 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: sacks Tyrod and I'm looking out to the right thinking 230 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: the defense events coming to me, and he swiped. It 231 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: was such an ugly play, like completely embarrassing, but like 232 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: that's my one lasting memory from the playoff game. But 233 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: I think most most athletes are wired that way. It's 234 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: funny like in around of golf, you always remember the 235 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: good shots, and in a football game, when you look back, 236 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: you remember the two plays you screwed up on. Yeah, 237 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. You're exactly right. And it's just the 238 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: way you're wired. It's part of it. I think it's 239 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: part of the makeup, makeup of competitors when you feel 240 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: like maybe you let your team, particular in football, when 241 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: the team is such a big part of what you 242 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: do and you let your let your teammates down, you 243 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: do something stupid to you know that causes your team 244 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: some problems. Those are the things you remember even when 245 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: you win the game. So I totally get that, And 246 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: you're right. The production crew here, Jay Harris, Jeff Colton, 247 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: Colton Act, Kelly Rude, Tom Hollander, they they listen. They 248 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: actually somebody listens to us because the games we talk 249 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: about pop up on the screen. Uh, right, e safe 250 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: the first hour. Right, they'll they'll be back there playing 251 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: cards later on Eric Wood, Steve Pasker here on One 252 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. As I said before, Jim Kelly, Steve Young 253 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: coming up in the two o'clock hour. Uh, Mattie Glabs 254 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: coming on as well. We're gonna have sound bites from 255 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: Brian Daball, Leslie Frasier. We're in a We're in a conversation. 256 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: We had a long conversation yesterday. My co host yesterday 257 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: was Leg Doozable, and we had long conversations about what's 258 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: going on around the country with the political unrest and 259 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: the social injustice and nine teams yesterday today have canceled 260 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: practices because of the shooting of um of of Jason 261 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: Blake and Jake Jacob Blake's forgive me Jacob Blake and 262 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: around the NFL. And I'll see if I can pull 263 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: it up here real quickly. The Baltimore Ravens have been 264 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: widely praised for their statement that they came out with 265 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: and and I gotta tell you it's it was really good. 266 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: And the reason that I bring it up is I 267 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: was going to read a little bit of it to you, 268 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: but One of the reasons that that it's really good 269 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: is the Baltimore Ravens have been a team that has 270 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: been a very solid group both on the field and 271 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: off the field. They've had their issues. You can go 272 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: back to Ray Rice, you can go back to Ray Lewis, 273 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: both of those guys having their own problems, but as 274 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: an organization, with with John Harbaugh at the Helm, they 275 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: have been out in front of so many issues and 276 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: handled issues with less drama than most teams would have 277 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: been able to and with the Baltimore even sent this 278 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: statement out and it's a little lengthy, but I'm going 279 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: to try and read all of it. It says, with 280 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: yet another example of racial discrimination, with the shooting of 281 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: Jacob Blake and the unlawful abuse of peaceful protesters, we 282 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: must unify as a society. It is imperative that all people, 283 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: regardless of race, religion, creed, or belief come together to 284 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: say enough is enough. This is bigger than sports. Racism 285 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: is embedded in the fabric of our nation's foundation and 286 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: is a blemish on our country's history. If we are 287 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: to change course and make our world a better place, 288 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: we must face this problem head on and act now. 289 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: To enact positive change. It is time to accept accountability 290 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: and acknowledge the ramifications of slavery and racial injustice. That's 291 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: the first set of the first section of their statement. 292 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: The last section of the statement is really the one 293 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: I think that gets the most credit, that should deserve 294 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: the most credit, and it's this one. And it comes 295 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: in and what it is is this eric and it 296 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm simple, but it's so difficult for most people to 297 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: get their minds around. And this is why this statement 298 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: has been applauded around the National Football League and outside 299 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: the National Football League. It's this, It's part of the 300 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: statement from the Ravens, and it sys it gives you 301 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: something to do, and it says this encourage and this 302 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: is telling people to do this. Encourage everyone you know 303 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: to engage in the political process by registering to vote 304 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: on both the local and the national level. Then it 305 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: leaves a website. It leaves a website link. Next it says, 306 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: demand prison sentencing reform that is fair and equitable. Encourage 307 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: every citizen to act with respect and compliance when engaging 308 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: with the police. If you feel there has been an 309 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: abuse of power, we encourage you to contact your police 310 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: department's Internal Affairs Unit. There's a link for that as well. 311 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: Then at the bottom it says, we will use our 312 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: platform to drive change now, not just for our generation, 313 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: but for the generation that's generations that follow, for our 314 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: sons and daughters and for their children. That's the kind 315 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: of statement that gives people a tangible way to do something. 316 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: And I had this conversation with Lege yesterday and I said, really, 317 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, people who aren't affected by this directly, who 318 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: don't have this issue with police, who don't know what 319 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: it is to have someone you love in that position, 320 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: either as a law enforcement officer or as a person 321 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: who has been victimized by social injustice. Most of us 322 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: just say, well, what do I do? Right? And this 323 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: statement by the Ravens, and that's why it's been praised, 324 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: is that you know what, just go vote, do something, 325 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, get educated and stay away and stay awake. 326 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: If you see something that is wrong, do something about it, 327 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: or say something to someone who can do something about 328 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: it and make sure they follow through. Pretty well spoken 329 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: by the Baltimore where I gotta tip my hat to 330 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: our fellow NFL club for that. I know this as well. 331 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: We've gotten internal memos from the management here at One 332 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: Bill's Life. They are working here inside our building very 333 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: hard at diversifying and making sure we understand where different 334 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: ethnic backgrounds come from, very economic backgrounds come from. The 335 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: diversity that we're striving for at One Bill's Drive is 336 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: a constant and so it is not just the Ravens, 337 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: It's not just the Buffalo Bills. But I know those 338 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: two organizations is evident in Baltimore, and I know it's 339 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: it's true here in Buffalo that they're really doing tangible 340 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: things to try and address what's going on in our 341 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: country and be and help, not just stand by and watch. Yeah, 342 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: I think I think it's an excellent statement. We talk 343 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: at length in media circles about how great sports are 344 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: because it often will break racial barriers. You talk about 345 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: how referencing back to your nineteen nineties teams and how 346 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: close you guys were and how close you guys still are, 347 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter if you're white or black, where 348 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: you're from, none of that matters because you all had 349 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: a common goal. That's how the teams were that I 350 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: was on. When you're all in the same mission, you 351 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: can work together, and then you start to ignore race. Well, 352 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: sports are also an incredible platform because they get so 353 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: much attention and there's so many people out there that 354 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: will say, hey, Baltimore Ravens, stay in your lane, provide entertainment. Well, 355 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: you know what, at this moment, there needs to be 356 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: people stepping up for those in need, and so there's 357 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: a need for it. And I applied the Ravens, I 358 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: applied the Bills, I applied all the sports figures that 359 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: are using their platform for a greater cause at this time. 360 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: Because wherever you sit, whatever your feelings are, I think 361 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: we can all come to the conclusion that there are 362 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: some changes that need to be made. And changes get 363 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: made by powerful voices standing up and making statements that 364 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: aren't just generic statements, it's action items. I had Leslie 365 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: Frasier come on my podcast, and I thought he did 366 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: a phenomenal job, and you know, I tried to ask 367 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: him honest questions. You know, one of the questions I 368 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: asked him was, a guy like Leslie Frasier is one 369 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: of the best coaches, people, men, one of the best 370 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: leaders I've ever been around. Isn't the Rooney roll offensive 371 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: to a guy like you that we say you have 372 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: to interview a black man for a head coaching job. 373 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: Like to me, if I was Leslie Frasier, I can't. 374 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: I can't put myself in his shoes. But if that 375 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: was me, I would feel offended because as just a coach, 376 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: he deserves it and he said he sees my point exactly. 377 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: But for the longest time, black coaches couldn't even get 378 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: their interviews for the head job. So that needed to happen. Well, 379 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: that's an actu able step that the NFL took. Okay, now, 380 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: the NFL, the NBA, number of other organizations are putting 381 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: pressure on society as a whole right now to make changes, 382 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: and hopefully there will we will see a lot of 383 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: change come from all of this, because these strategies should 384 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: spur a lot of action in society. Yeah, I agree, 385 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: and Leslie Freight, you're right. And for most guys like 386 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier, he's listen, I'm worthy with or without the 387 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: Rooney rule. But the simple fact of the matter is 388 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: that that line has never crossed. It was never crossed 389 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: until you's pushed somebody over and they find out, oh, 390 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: it's just as nice on this side of the racial 391 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: line as it is on that side. And these guys 392 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: are just as worthy on this side as it is 393 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: or the other. I've long said, and I've said it 394 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: a number of times on the show at the risk 395 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: of repeating myself, I think professional sports and you can 396 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: speak to this as well as I can professional sports, 397 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: particularly in football, and I can't speak to baseball or 398 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: basketball or anything like that. I get the feeling it's 399 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: much the same that professional sports. Locker rooms are at 400 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: the cutting edge of racial reconciliation because you have guys 401 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: who generally love each other across racial lines. You have 402 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: guys who are truly lifelong friends, guys who love and 403 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: respect each other across racial lines, and where that racial 404 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: line becomes as unimportant as as you'll ever see it 405 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: in our society, where guys lift each other up for 406 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: what they're worth, and they also hold each other accountable 407 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: across racial lines. It's an atmosphere that I think we 408 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: as pro athletes and pro football players certainly are much 409 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: more aware of and sensitive to than maybe just the 410 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: rest of society, because we do have genuine relationships with 411 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: people of other colors, of other backgrounds, and you get 412 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: there kind of organically. I guess it's the best way 413 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: to Certainly you're thrown together on this football team. You 414 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: don't do it, but there's nothing says you have to 415 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: walk across the locker room find out about that guy 416 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, But you do. And it's I've long said 417 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: that football is a great it's a great example of 418 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: how good it could be for everybody if they just had, 419 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, whether whether it's an apprehension of fear or 420 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: just lack of opportunity of having a friend who's of 421 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: a different race. I'm I'm a better guy for it, 422 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: way better, and I wouldn't have had it any other ways. 423 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: But I think it's you know, that's why I think 424 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: football players and teams are so all about this social 425 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: injustice movement. They are all about it because they've seen 426 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: the benefit of getting past it. Yeah. Absolutely, and me 427 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: and you have never we could never put ourselves in 428 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: their shoes. And I think at this time you just 429 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: need to be sympathetic and understand that you may not 430 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: fully understand the other side, but when you have to 431 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: your point, when you have love for a brother of 432 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: a different race, and you you sense anybody hurting, you know, 433 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, as as a whole, we're called to carry 434 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: each other's burdens. And if I truly care about my 435 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: black brothers that I played football with, that used to 436 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 1: come to holidays at our family's house in Buffalo, if 437 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: I truly care about them and something is truly burdening them, 438 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: then I need to open my awareness to try and 439 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: understand the best I can and try and use my 440 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: platform the best I can to help them. Because there 441 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: is obvious hurt in the black community right now that 442 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: that goes without saying. And when there's that much hurt, 443 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: there needs to be something done. And these I keep 444 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: mentioning these tragedies, but like, there needs to be something 445 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: done because you're not bringing people back to life. You 446 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: can't make it okay. But what's what's the greater good 447 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: that will come from all this? And it needs to 448 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: be actionable steps. Yeah, and that brings me to what 449 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: the bill had to say. Kim and Terry Pegoula put 450 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: out a statement and it kind of has along the 451 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: lines of what you and I are just talking about. 452 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: And here's what Kim and Terry said. We applaud the 453 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: athletes who have taken a stand this week and all 454 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: the athletes who have spoken out against racial injustice. The 455 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: sports community has the power to lead the discussion and 456 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: effect change. We remain committed with players, coaches, and staff 457 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: in our dedication to eradicating racism and inequality. This is 458 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: bigger than sports. Kim and Terry Pegoula and I know 459 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: you know teams put out these statements, and I will 460 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: tell you this from personal experience. This isn't just a 461 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: statement on a page inside this building one Bill's drive. 462 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: It's real. They continually reach out to their employees to 463 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: network and to put their arms have everybody put their 464 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: arms around each other and get to a level of 465 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: understanding so that they can have real conversations. And I 466 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: had the same thing with Lejay Doozable yesterday. It's hard conversations, 467 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: particularly for you and me as white guys, to you know, 468 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: to sit back and realize that we have not been 469 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: treated or had the same things happen to us that 470 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: our friends have had just because we are white. And 471 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: it's and then you try and rationalize it away and said, well, 472 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: maybe it was because of this, or maybe because it 473 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: was that, and you get down to it, it's just 474 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: not true. That's not the reason. The reason is because 475 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: they're black. That's in it. You can whitewash it. You 476 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: I hate to say that word. I'm you know, you know, 477 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: you hate to put rose colored glasses on or rationalize it, 478 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: or blame the blame the black community for these problems 479 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: or whatever, blame whatever you want to blame. There's nothing 480 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: at the core of it. There's nothing other than racism. 481 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: Whether it's intentional or vindictive or malicious, it's still different 482 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: for one set of people than it is for another. 483 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: And it's not fair, and that's the that's the real 484 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: issue that you know, you got to get to the 485 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: heart of. And it's really uncomfortable for for a lot 486 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: of people to have these conversations. It's exhausting and at 487 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: times I know this too. I've had these difficult conversations 488 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: with members of my family. It sometimes you get into 489 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: a place where it's hopeless because it seems so big. 490 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: And I hope we never get to the point where 491 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: we're all hopeless. Yeah, you're exactly right, and you made 492 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: a number of phenomenal points there, and when you said 493 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: it's difficult to speak on this, it becomes uncomfortable. And 494 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: part of the uncomfort for two white guys on TV 495 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: and radio right now talking about this is you could 496 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: miss speak, and you could ask any of a number 497 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: of former teammates and friends we have that are black 498 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: that would say, of course, these guys aren't racist. But 499 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: if you miss speak in one way, you're labeled that forever. 500 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: And I think because of that, as a white man, 501 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: you just got to be really careful with what you say, 502 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: and you always should, but it becomes really difficult to 503 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: navigate in public settings. Um. You know, I was with 504 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: a former Ubel basketball player last night having a beer 505 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: and we were having conversations on these matters because in 506 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: Louisville it is affecting us with the Brianna Taylor stuff, 507 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: like it's affecting our city. Our businesses are just fleeing 508 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: downtown as fast as possible right now the Kentucky Derby 509 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: because the coronavirus and potential protests have canceled all fans 510 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: at the Kentucky Derby next week. In this Brianna Taylor stuff. 511 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if they just thought, if they let 512 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: it go on long enough, that people would forget, but 513 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: no one is forgetting, right, and so it's it's been 514 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: now months and it's not going away, and which is good. 515 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't need to go away. It's perfect that it's 516 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: still ongoing, but man, do something. And so I was 517 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: having a conversation with someone last night, but you could 518 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: be so much more open and fluid and over a 519 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 1: beer and a private conversation, right exactly, well, you and me. 520 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I listen, I am. I totally agree that, 521 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: because I'm the biggest idiot in the world, and I'll 522 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: say something not out of but just out of ignorance, 523 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: out and just kind of flinging through work, which is 524 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: the most dangerous thing. I gotta live Mike in front 525 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: of me, and I got everybody listening to Western New York, 526 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: you know there, and for me to see I could say, listen, 527 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the first time I said something stupid. 528 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: But you don't do it intentionally. But that's the kind 529 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: of fear that guys like you and me have. I 530 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: don't want to offend anybody, but I'm trying to make 531 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: a point about the way I see it, which may 532 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: be ignorant. I don't know, because it's not a it's 533 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: not the thing that hits you and I in the 534 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: face every time we leave the house. I don't have 535 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: to worry about my seventeen year old kid driving his 536 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: car to the store. Um, because he's a white kid, 537 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So, yeah, you and I, 538 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: you and I see things differently and we say so 539 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: we speak sometimes out of just trying to be genuine 540 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: and to come across as from the wrong place. Yeah, 541 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: and you mentioned the Bugulah's earlier and how in that 542 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: intentional they are through this time. I remember back to 543 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: the protests and the kneeling in twenty seventeen, my last 544 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: season in the NFL, when that all came about. The 545 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: Bugoulahs did not run away from it. They came into 546 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: a team meeting on Saturday. We called an early team 547 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: meeting so we could still do our football stuff. Afterwards. 548 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: We ended up spending three hours in discussion with the 549 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: team because we were going to try and do a 550 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: unified statement. And you know what we came to after 551 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: three hours. There's guys that will not kneel because out 552 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: of ignorance or whatever it was. We you know, some 553 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: guys didn't feel right doing it. Some people thought they 554 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: would offend their family, whatever it may be. There was 555 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: black guys that didn't want to stand up in lock arms. 556 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: They wanted to kneel, and you know what we did. 557 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: We just said, you know what, we all love each other, 558 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: we all respect each other. You can do whatever you want. 559 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: And how strong is it to say you can kneel. 560 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: I'll stand up on my hand on you. You know. 561 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: But we're gonna go and go out and fight and 562 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: play football game together, and we're gonna go and have 563 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: fun afterwards. And that's what we're gonna do tomorrow, and 564 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna go out and win. And we did. We 565 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: beat the Broncos. And I felt like we were so 566 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: unified and we didn't even have a unified message. We 567 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: didn't link arms, we didn't kneel. Everybody did something. Everyone 568 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: did whatever they wanted. And you know what, that was 569 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: completely fine. And you know what the Pogula said, because 570 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: it was at that time when you had guys neil, 571 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: you immediately lost sponsors, you lost fans, you had booing. 572 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: And the Pogula said, actually that sounds great, because we 573 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: support you guys in any way that you that in 574 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: causes that are pertinent to you. And then they put 575 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: their money where their mouth is and they supported them 576 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: throughout the community. And that was in a room, that 577 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: team meeting is with guys who love and respect each other. 578 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: It's a hard conversation if even in that room, right, 579 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like you're doing it with strangers 580 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: on social media with a fake name, like you know 581 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: so many thousands of people do in this country. You're 582 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: in a room with guys you love and respect, and 583 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: you can't agree on that there. It's really really difficult 584 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: conversation to have. And it's so for the regular you know, 585 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: citizenry out there who's doing it with whatever, Charlie on 586 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: the street or whatever, even in their own families. They're 587 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: gonna be people. My family disagrees politically, you know. I 588 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: mean my kids have different political views than I do, 589 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: and I have different political views than my folks did. 590 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: So even it's a hard conversation, we gotta and we 591 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: gotta be willing to sit down and just get through 592 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: it together and try and come to an agreement, even 593 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: if it is agreeing to disagree, but loving each other 594 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: in spite of it. I think that's maybe the key 595 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: thing to it as well. Steve Tasker, Eric Wood here 596 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: on One Bills Live. We're gonna take a break coming 597 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: up right after this. We're gonna get back and listen 598 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: to Buffalo Bill's defensive coordinator that you just spoke about, 599 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier. We've got some soundbites from him coming up. 600 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: Maddie Glabbed, Steve Young, Jim Kelly coming up on this 601 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: program as well. One Bill's Live, presented by Kalidah Health. 602 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one of 603 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: those lives. To teacher Eric Wood here from One Bill's Drive, 604 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: I am and he's down to Louisville, and uh, I 605 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: guess they're the hurricane's gonna hit you tonight. You said 606 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna get some rain tonight. It'll probably be just 607 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 1: rained by the time it gets up to Louisville, right, 608 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: heavy rain maybe, so maybe we won't hit by anything. Yeah, 609 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: we shouldn't get hit by anything too tough. Um coming 610 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: up this way through the hurricane. We we get um 611 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: occasional tornado this part of the country. Um, I guess 612 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: every every part of the country's got their mess. Like 613 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, it's the lake effects, snow in Louisville, maybe 614 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: some high winds. Actually part of part of the crappy 615 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: thing of Louisville is you get these miserably hot humid 616 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: summers and cold winners. It's like you get, you get 617 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: four seasons, which is great. Um, but if you're gonna 618 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: have cold winners, you'd like to not have such scorching 619 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: hot summers. Yeah, you say, you get an occaional tornado. 620 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, I grew up in Kansas, right would I 621 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: grew up You're talking more than occasional there. I grew 622 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 1: up right in the hurricane out, I mean the tornado alley. 623 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: I've seen more than my share of tornadoes live and 624 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: in person. It's yeah, it's that's zero fun. But I 625 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: also know this too. You're living in Louisville, not for 626 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: another you know our youngest you know, I'm Jake. Jake 627 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: lives in Louisville now, So I've got skin in the 628 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: game down there now. So that my son, I got 629 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: to make sure he actually called me this morning, uh, 630 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: you know and stuff. So yeah, he'll be getting the 631 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: same whether you are here pretty soon, I'm sure. So 632 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: we have a SoundBite we're gonna get to in a 633 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: minute from Leslie Frasier. We also put out the mailbag, 634 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: the Friday mail Bag. We're gonna get questions from listeners, 635 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: uh Eric about well, about a wide variety of subjects. 636 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: We don't really tell them what to ask about, so 637 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a ton of questions from listeners about 638 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: different things. We've already notified every everybody that Stephen house God, 639 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: the long time kicker and for the last three years 640 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills and before that for the Seattle Seahawks. 641 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: They released him yesterday after uh the scrimmage yesterday. Lachlan Edwards, 642 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: the punder they signed just last week. His workout is 643 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: over as well. They released him as well. Later in 644 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: the program, Steve Young and Jim Kelly, the two quarterbacks, 645 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: and the No Punk Game are coming on with us 646 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: at one o'clock. Mattie Glab's gonna come on with us. 647 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna she's gonna give us some updates about, oh, 648 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: just the player's reaction to what's going on around the country, 649 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: but also some training camp awards, who's who's been playing well, 650 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: who's been the MVP, some prizing rookies. She's been watching 651 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: about as much practice as any member of the media 652 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: has been able to, and she's gonna give us her 653 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: thoughts about the roster and stuff going on. So for 654 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: right now, it's just it's me and you kind of 655 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: bringing this thing all the way till three o'clock. And 656 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: we had the conversation the first half hour of the show, 657 00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: Eric about you know that social justice that is has 658 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: been you know, brought to the forefront of the political 659 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: landscape over the last four months five months, with with 660 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: the tragedies and the unjust shootings of the citizens of 661 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: the of our country. It was there issues like that 662 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: during your play Now you're fairly recently, you've been out 663 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: a couple of years, and I've been out Gush a 664 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: couple of decades. Were there issues like this that raised 665 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: their heads during your playing time? Do you remember the 666 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: hard conversations you had with members of your teammates where 667 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't this big a deal to the 668 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: larger area of society, or at least it wasn't on 669 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: the political landscape then, but it was an issue in 670 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: our locker rooms because it's where, like I said, it's 671 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: the great the best breeding ground of conversations between white 672 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: guys and black guys. Yeah, you know, I mentioned earlier 673 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: in the show that my last career was, or my 674 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: last season in the NFL was the Kneeling year when 675 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick started that, so there was there was some 676 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: conversations that came from that. There was a lot of 677 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: eye opening that came from all of that, And you know, 678 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: there would generally be conversations had on these topics, but 679 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: nothing really a strong until twenty seventeen. And at that 680 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: point we had such a mature team. We could talk 681 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: about that. We had phenomenal leaders in that locker room 682 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: with Kyle Williams and Lorenzo Alexander to kind of navigate through, 683 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, any team meetings that came from that time, 684 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: I will say, you know, you get introduced to things 685 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: by having black friends and teammates. And if one thing 686 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: I have been enlightened on since all this came about, 687 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: because I could sit here and be all high and 688 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: mighty and say, man, come to one of our Christmases 689 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, come to our Thanksgiving and we had half 690 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: of the people that were black. It was awesome, people 691 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: from different parts of the country. We got all these 692 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: different types of food. It was incredible. I could I 693 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: could sit there and say that, but I've been enlightened 694 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: by my black brothers that that are athletes, that they 695 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: get treated even at a better level because of their 696 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: athletes status and that. And that's even since I was 697 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: a kid, all all of my friends that were black 698 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: were from sports. We all played sports together as a kid, 699 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 1: all my buddies did. And then through high school college 700 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: you hang out with athletes, you know, and they get 701 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: treated at a different standard. And that's that's where I 702 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: almost fell blind to it. And I'm sure he'd be 703 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: comfortable with me telling the story because there was truly 704 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: nothing that was done wrong but me and Dion Dawkins. 705 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: Dion was driving me one night in Buffalo after a game. 706 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: You guys can do the math. Dion is a is 707 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: a non drinker, and so Dion was driving us being 708 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: responsible and Dion was driving a nice SUV with ten 709 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: and windows. We got pulled over in downtown Buffalo. He 710 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: immediately rolled down all of his windows, put his hands 711 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: on the steering wheel. The cop came up and it 712 00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: was really polite and said, hey, great game earlier, guys, 713 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: you all get home safe tonight. You know, it was late. 714 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: We were coming from the casino and when we pulled away, 715 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: Dion said, I'm telling you, if you guys weren't all 716 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: in the car, that would not have gone the same way. 717 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: I said, I'll come on, Dean, they would have recognized 718 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: you this and I said, probably not. And it's a 719 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: it's a much more tense situation when it's not dion 720 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: three wide offensive alignment and one other black offensive alignment 721 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: in a car. It's it's a different situation. And that 722 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: was eye opening to me at the time, and that 723 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: was that was the only time I've ever even been 724 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: in a scenario like that, and I had to be 725 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: informed like, that's that's not usually how it goes when 726 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: you get pulled over. That's exactly right. And we've got 727 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier, defensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills, who happens 728 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: to be a black man, and he is tasked with 729 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: leading these guys in these turbulent times. And he was asked, 730 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, how do you keep your guys focused during 731 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 1: a time when there's so many more important things than 732 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 1: football going on around them. And here's what the Bills 733 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator said about that, Well, this is not an 734 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: easy time to be be focused, you know, no matter 735 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: who you are in the United States, it's a challenging time. 736 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: But our guys are really trying to do their jobs 737 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: and stay committed to what we're trying to get accomplished 738 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: each and every day, and they really handle things extremely well. 739 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: And hopefully we can stay focused on what we have 740 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: to get done. But you can't ignore, you know, what's 741 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: going on in our country, you know, putting our head 742 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: in the saying and pretending like the world is not 743 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: going on. Well aware of what's happening. And at the 744 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: same time we walk into this building, we know we 745 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: have a job to do, and you know we have 746 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: to focus and concentrate on what we have to get done. Yeah. Absolutely, 747 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: And just to chime in on yesterday's scrimmage, how impressed 748 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: were you your defense yesterday? Yeah, you know I was 749 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: that are really good job and those other guys you're 750 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: trying to get ready for September thirteenth. Really pleased with 751 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: the way that they performed and how hard they worked. 752 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: You know, we've got a lot of work to do 753 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: leading up to September thirteen, but you can see that 754 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: some of the things we've been working on, they're helping 755 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: us to come together as a group. You can see 756 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: the chemistry and the camaraderie we've been trying to build 757 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 1: because we were so separate or so long, just trying 758 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: to coming together and be unified. So that was encouraging, 759 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: and we just got to keep building on a few 760 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: little things and we should be ready ready to go 761 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: by time we get to September thirteen. Yes, sir, appreciate 762 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: the time, and good thank you High Coach Alcapato Wjrgot 763 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: to see I hope you're doing well. Good morning, say 764 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: thank you. Um. You know you have a very versatile 765 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: defensive line. Obviously we know that from the guys you 766 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,959 Speaker 1: brought in, so you know they've played inside, they played 767 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: outside three four or four three things like that. As 768 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, how nice is that you can have 769 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: a playbook to do things, But also, just as at 770 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: general philosophy, you have to be careful sometimes not to 771 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: kind of overdo it and just kind of stick with 772 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: what you do best, so to speak. Yeah, that's a 773 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: great point. You know, you can have all these toys 774 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: that you can play with. Man, you gotta find something 775 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: you can be good at. And we have some things 776 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: that we've been pretty good in the past. And if 777 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: you want to add a few wrinkles, you know you 778 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: want to do that, But you don't get away from 779 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 1: what has helped you to be successful, and we're fortunate 780 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: to have a flexibility in our line that you mentioned. 781 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: But at the same time, we have some tenants that 782 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: we believe in and we want to make sure that 783 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: we're good at those and maybe add a few wrinkles 784 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: here and there. Thanks coach, I always appreciate your time. Thanks. Hey, 785 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: coach Frazier. What have you learned about your defense through 786 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: this training camp so far? More automatically? Well, every day 787 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: has been a day of learning where you know, things 788 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: are not normal as we all know. So every time 789 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: you come into building and every time you walk on 790 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: a practice field, you're getting a few other few nuggets 791 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: along the way. And one of the things that sticks 792 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: out to me about our group we needed to find 793 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: out who our leaders, who we're going to be going 794 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: into the season. And as I mentioned to Mark, just 795 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 1: seeing Mario Addison step up and provide some leadership boards. 796 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 1: Losing Lorenzo, as you know, Mattie, that was a big 797 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: piece from a leadership standpoint, and that was one of 798 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: the things that's been going through my mind. Who's gonna 799 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: help feel that board in that absence of a guy 800 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: like Lorenzo And similar to what happened when Kyward retire, 801 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 1: and so having Jerry Hughes along with Mario and seeing 802 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 1: how Tremaine has really matured in that role. That's probably 803 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: been the thing that I've been learning about our defense 804 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: as much as to exit and O's because that's a 805 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: big deal. You know, where's your leadership going to come from? 806 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: And can't always come from coaches because when you're in 807 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: the heat the battle and you're on not feel need 808 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 1: somebody to take charge. And so to see what Mario brings, 809 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: to see what Tremaine is doing, to take a look 810 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: at what Jerry Hughes is doing, that's been really encouraging, 811 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: along with Michael and Jordan, for you as well. Do 812 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: you think that leadership between Mario and Jerry is even 813 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: bigger because of that connection they had previously to the 814 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 1: Bills playing the Colts together. Yeah, that may have something 815 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: to do with it their history, that's possible, but I 816 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: also think it's because of who they are as people. 817 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: I think that's got a big part of it as well. 818 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: Thanks coach, Hey Leslie, John Scott, good morning. Good morning, John. 819 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: Wanted to ask you how big of a swing has 820 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: Josh Norman's injury been to that competition between him and 821 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: Levi Wallace. Yeah, I mean that's a that's that's that's 822 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: one of the tough ones there, because John, we're really 823 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: looking forward to those competitive practices between those two and 824 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: it really felt like that would really be good for 825 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 1: our defense to have that competition going day in and 826 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: day out. And with Josh's injury, you know, that's kind 827 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: of been put on the shelf. But now and hopefully 828 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: we'll get him back prior to the Jets game and 829 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: play enough time to get some practice in. But Levi 830 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: is doing a really good job, and if Josh doesn't 831 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: make it back, we feel very confident that that Levi 832 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: can can do the job. But we're gonna have to 833 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: make a decision whenever Josh comes back, one of those 834 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: guys would have to start. Unfortunately, you don't get the 835 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: rep with Josh to really evaluate him properly. And then 836 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: from a defensive coordinator standpoint, us in the stands, we 837 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: saw Josh yesterday and he looked to be dealing. I 838 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: understand it was against the second team, but even when 839 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 1: he's going up against the ones in practice. From your 840 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: spot as a defensive coordinator, how have you seen him 841 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: grow and how is he different this camp than you've 842 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: seen the previous two years. The thing that I noticed, 843 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: and I was expus yesterday in one of our staff mutes, 844 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: and the thing I've noticed is the decision making is 845 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: so it's it's what you thought it would be going 846 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: to his third season. He's grown so much in that area, 847 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: protecting the football and making good decisions, you know, whether 848 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: it take the ball down the field or take a 849 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 1: check down, or should I throw it away versus taking 850 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: a sat. I mean that that's a big part of 851 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: quarterback playing. And you know, we're trying so hard defense 852 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: to create negative plays and he's making good decisions which 853 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: makes it hard for us to create negative plays. So 854 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: that's one of the things I've seen from a gross standpoint, 855 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: and kudos to him and the offensive coach instead. That 856 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: was Leslie Frasier, defensive coordinator, with his media time. I 857 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: believe this was yesterday or maybe it perhaps it was 858 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: this morning. I think it was this morning, and you 859 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: know you mentioned it, Eric, you can tell as a 860 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: duck you don't get to be a defensive coordinator, and 861 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: certainly Leslie Frasier has been a head coach as well 862 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: for a time here in the National Football League. You 863 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 1: can tell the kind of kind of quality guy he 864 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: is and why his side of the ball has been 865 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: rock solid for the years he's been coordinator. Yeah, absolutely, 866 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: he's He's one of the most consistent people on a 867 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: day to day basis I've ever been around. Uh Sean 868 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: McDermott as well. It's it's not surprised that they work 869 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 1: so well together. But Leslie Frasier is a fun nominal leader, 870 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: does an excellent job with that defense in getting them 871 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: to fly around in the football, which isn't always easy 872 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: to get eleven guys on defense to fly around in 873 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: the football. You have to truly appreciate your defensive coordinator 874 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: and love them. Yeah, that worth Eric Wood, Steve Tasker 875 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: here in One Bills Love. We're gonna take a quick break. 876 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna come back. Maddie Glabs coming on at one o'clock. 877 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: We'll come back and talk a little bit more about 878 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: what Leslie Fraser just said on One Bill's Live. Right 879 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: after this, we're presented by Kalid to Health with Buffalo 880 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio from the Seneca One Studios. Nothing comes close. 881 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's live Steve Tasker, Eric Wood 882 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: with you here till three o'clock coming up at the 883 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: top of the hour and just a couple of minutes, 884 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: Maddie Glabs going to come on with us and give 885 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: us her run down a training camp, give out some 886 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 1: awards for the people who she thinks have been great 887 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: during training camp. We just got off with listening to 888 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser in his media time this morning with the 889 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: Western New York meeting. We both think, you know, he's 890 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: he absolutely stands out in a crowd with the way 891 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: he handles himself and the things that he says. But Eric, 892 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: I think the Bill's defense this year, and I watched 893 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: a little bit of the scrimmage yesterday, this defense was 894 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: a top three defense last year. It was like number one, 895 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 1: two or three. And points allowed for the season. I 896 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: think was number two and points allowed for the season 897 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: they gave They were impossible to throw the football against. 898 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: And I think they're going to be better this year. 899 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: I think they're really going to be better. Yeah, I 900 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: definitely think they could be I think I think defensive 901 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: line depth now is a huge reason for that. They 902 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: went out and picked up some key free agents in 903 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: Butler and Jefferson. You get another year of experience with 904 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: your all star linebacker in the middle, your Pro Bowl 905 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: linebacker Tremaine Edmonds. He's a year older in a good way. 906 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: You're talking about he's now twenty two or twenty three 907 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: as opposed to twenty. And you know you have superstars 908 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,280 Speaker 1: across the board when you look at Tradeabus White, um, 909 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: and then the combination of Micah Hi Jordan Paul you're 910 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: on the back end, they're absolutely phenomenal at disguising coverages. 911 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: You get another year of them working together. What more 912 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: can they do from a coverage disguis standpoint? Um, And 913 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: the fact that they're interchangeable makes it so difficult for 914 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: opposing offenses And um, yeah, could they be better? Absolutely? 915 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: And and a lot of it comes, um comes from 916 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: staying healthy. They were able to stay healthy at a 917 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: number of key positions last year. That helped losing Harrison 918 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: Phillips last year hurt in the run game for a 919 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: few weeks, and that's probably why I believe they ended 920 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: up the year tenth overall against the run, maybe twelfth. 921 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: And I think a reason for that was You're you 922 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: were relying on Harrison Phillips for a lot of your 923 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: run stuffing and you lose him and it took them 924 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 1: allowed to regain their footing in that aspect, But they 925 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 1: could absolutely be better. You know, you got everybody coming back. Um. 926 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: You look at um offenses that they'll be facing that 927 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: have new coordinators down in Miami, new coordinator you have, um, 928 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, a new system in New England. All those 929 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: teams missing OTA's that's that's tough and so um. With 930 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: no preseason games, I think the Bills should be able 931 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: to start the season, especially on defense with so many 932 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: returning players, with so many players with so much experience, Uh, 933 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: they should be able to start off hot. And then 934 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: and then the other cornerback spot was a topic of 935 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: discussion all last year that were rotating Kevin Johnson and 936 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: Leviy Wallace. Now you had Josh Norman to the mix. 937 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,399 Speaker 1: But but everybody's been complimentary of le By Wallace so 938 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: far this training camp. How does that cornerback battle play out? 939 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: Can Josh Norman regain some of the momentum he had 940 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: coming out of Carolina when he went to Washington playing 941 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 1: under Sean McDermott man that that could just be a 942 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: whole new element to this Bill's Defense. You know, and 943 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you we've got a ton of people. We 944 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: opened up a on Twitter, we opened up our mail 945 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: bag and said, if you've got a question, throw it 946 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,720 Speaker 1: in there. We're getting inundated with a ton of great questions. 947 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to those a little bit later in 948 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: the show. Maddie Glab's coming up. Right after the break, 949 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break right here, coming back, Maddie 950 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,760 Speaker 1: Glabs gonna come on with us, talk about her insights 951 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 1: into training camp, give out some awards for guys who 952 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: have played well in training camp. We'll get to the 953 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: mail bag. Brian dave Ball offensive coordinators coming up in 954 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: two Hall of Fame quarterbacks Jim Kelly and Steve Young 955 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: coming on in the two o'clock hour one Bill's Live, 956 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back 957 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: to one of those lives. Steve Tasker and Eric Wood 958 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 1: with you till three o'clock. We're about to welcome on 959 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: Maddie Glab to the program. But before we do, we've 960 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: got a little bit of breaking news. Hi, Maddie. By 961 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: the way, We've got a little bit of breaking news. 962 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: The Bills have signed a cornerback, a corner backs six 963 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pound guy. His name is Brian Allen. 964 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: He was drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers, spent a couple 965 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: of years with them, seventeen and eighteen with the Steelers. 966 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: Last year he was on the practice squad for the Seahawks. 967 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: He's out of Utah University. Third year in the National 968 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: Football League. Been in sixteen career games, mainly appearing on 969 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 1: special teams. Spend some time on the Steelers active roster 970 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 1: and on the practice squad of both them, and of 971 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: course last year, like I said, with the Seahawks, Brian 972 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,919 Speaker 1: Allen the newest member of the Buffalo Bills. Sixty three 973 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pound cornerback now signed with the 974 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. And we do that on the cusp of 975 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: Maddie glab coming on one Bills Live, Mattie Eric woodstep tasker. 976 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,959 Speaker 1: How are you doing? How's it going for you? Good? 977 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm working from home today. It's a Friday. The Bills 978 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 1: had walked through today, so we were not able to 979 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 1: go watch, so might as well work from home. Tomorrow's 980 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: the player's day off, and then they will be back 981 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: for practice on Sunday, so we'll definitely have quite a 982 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: bit of practice coverage coming for you guys on Sunday. 983 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: Yesterday was the scrimmage, so of course still lots to 984 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: talk about there as we're two weeks away from week one. 985 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Yeah, and you've watched about as 986 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: much practice as any media member because you know, none 987 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: of them nobody gets to watch a lot of it. 988 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: But what have you been your what are your impressions? 989 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: We've got you know, don't get too deep into it 990 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: because we've got you know, other stuff coming up in 991 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: a minute, But what did you think about this? And 992 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: the players and coaches have had to be distracted about 993 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 1: what's going on around the country. How big an issue 994 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: has that been? Have you seen in your ramifications of 995 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: the social injustice has been going on. I'm not sure 996 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 1: if it's been a distraction that affects, you know, every 997 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: every snap or every single rep that they take, although 998 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: I do think it's a really great distraction. At the 999 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: same time, I asked coach McDermott about why it's important 1000 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 1: to have something like this, the social injustices, the racial 1001 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: injustices that we see in this world, why it's important 1002 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: to come into the locker room and disrupt a day 1003 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: to day practice schedule. He usually doesn't like outside noise, 1004 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: of course, coming into the locker room, but this is 1005 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: something that's important to have in your locker room. These 1006 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: are conversations that are important to have. He said that 1007 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,320 Speaker 1: the team was able to get together and talk quite 1008 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 1: a bit about Jacob Blake and just the latest in 1009 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: systemic racism that we see every single day, and there 1010 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: were some constructive things I think that came out of 1011 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: that team meeting with which essentially made it feel okay 1012 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 1: to go to practice and scrimmage yesterday. Based on what 1013 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Leslie Fraser said today to the media, he 1014 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,360 Speaker 1: said it was because of those conversations that they felt, okay, 1015 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: we can go to work on Thursday and we can 1016 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,919 Speaker 1: have a scrimmage. But I think it's something that's very 1017 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,720 Speaker 1: much so a part of the day to day conversations 1018 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: with them, as it is with everyone in our lives 1019 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: right now, trying to fight this, trying to end systemic 1020 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: racism and every day, and quite a few of the 1021 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 1: players said they want to work to find a way 1022 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: to impact the community of buffalo. They just haven't found 1023 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: or pinpointed exactly what that is yet. So I'll be 1024 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing, you know, what they decide they 1025 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 1: want to help out with in the community or do 1026 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 1: in the community. I think it's important to remember too, 1027 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,760 Speaker 1: they decided, you know, they were going to practice yesterday. 1028 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: There's been nine teams that have canceled practice. They did 1029 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,479 Speaker 1: have a team meeting. They had a long conversation about 1030 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: the things that we're going on, and they decided they're 1031 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: going to go out and practice. They had a major 1032 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: scrimmage yesterday and they knowing what I know about Sean McDermott, 1033 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,919 Speaker 1: this will be used as a positive for his team. 1034 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,240 Speaker 1: He'll use it as a bonding thing. They'll come together 1035 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 1: a little bit stronger for this. And I thought when 1036 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: I watched the scrimmage, the part of scrimmage that I 1037 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: watched yesterday, this group that seems like they're hitting on 1038 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: all cylinders together emotionally and on the field as well. 1039 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: What were your impressions of the scrimmage. I thought it 1040 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 1: was a good scrimmage. I thought it was a really 1041 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: productive scrimmage. Josh Allen had a great day. I know, 1042 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: it's just a scrimmage, So how much can you really 1043 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 1: base off of that. But it's better than Josh, you know, 1044 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 1: playing awful in a scrimmage. He played very well for 1045 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: my account. He completed thirty three or forty five passes, 1046 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: which is a seventy three percent completion rate, had two 1047 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown, in one interception to Surrand Neil. 1048 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 1: That pass bounced off the fingertips of Gabriel Davis into 1049 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: Surrand Neil's hands. But it was also a very windy 1050 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: day in Bills Stadium, and this is what offensive coordinator 1051 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: Brian dave All just said. It was that it was 1052 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: important that we threw the ball forty five times because 1053 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: it was so windy. And that's something that's really important 1054 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,520 Speaker 1: to work on, especially in the stadium when you get 1055 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: those type of crosswinds with some of the new receivers, 1056 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: with some of the new offensive skill players coming into 1057 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: this team, when it gets cold, when it gets wendy, 1058 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: that's a tough place to play. And to see Josh 1059 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: hit on seventy three percent of his passes going up 1060 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 1: against a tough defense, going up against when yeah, you 1061 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: look back at that performance and you think, okay, Yeah, 1062 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: this guy is making the strides that he needs to 1063 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 1: make in year three, frequently consistently connecting with those receivers 1064 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: in Cole Beasley, John Brown, Gabriel Davis, Andre Roberts, Isaiah McKenzie. Now, 1065 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs did not practice yesterday due to low back soreness, 1066 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 1: so hopefully he's back in the fold by Sunday. Yeah, 1067 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 1: and a lot of other stuff going on yesterday as well. 1068 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 1: I mean the team scrimmage. You've been watching practice. As 1069 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,879 Speaker 1: we go along, we're gonna bring back something that we've 1070 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,720 Speaker 1: been we have had, not had for a long time, 1071 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: the re emergence of the Maddies, the Maddie Awards for 1072 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: training camp. We we dug it up there. It is 1073 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 1: hyping in the crowd noise, just like the NFL may 1074 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 1: be forced to do this year with no fans in 1075 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: the stands. Matt the Maddies have more fans, or just 1076 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 1: as many fans as any NFL team in the coming out. Okay, 1077 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 1: all right, so here we go. All right, Mattie, give 1078 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: us your give us your Maddie Awards. What's first step? 1079 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: What's the first award? All right, let's go with the 1080 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: offensive MVP first, and I'm sure this is not a 1081 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 1: shock to anyone. So offensive MVP, I'm going to give 1082 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: it to Stefan Diggs. Yes, like I said, we didn't 1083 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 1: see him yesterday in the scrimmage, but I would have 1084 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: loved to see him yesterday in the scrimmage because he 1085 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: would have further shown why he is such an important 1086 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 1: piece to this offense. This season, pretty much any past 1087 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: that was thrown his way, he made a catch for it, 1088 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 1: or at least fought hard to make a catch for 1089 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: every single ball that was thrown his way. He's six 1090 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: feet he plays like he's six three. This is a 1091 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: guy who had back to back one thousand yards seasons. 1092 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: Knows how to get into the end zone. That's something 1093 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 1: that this team really wanted going into the twenty twenty 1094 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: season was scoring more points. They ranked towards the bottom 1095 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL when it came to that, and they 1096 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: need to improve on that for this season. I think 1097 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs is going to be an essential piece to 1098 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 1: that puzzle of figuring out how you can get into 1099 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: the end zone more. Josh Allen said his timing with 1100 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,959 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs is getting there. It's going to improve once 1101 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: the two to start to sit down and watch film together. 1102 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 1: Not sure if they have started that yet, but as 1103 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: of last week, he said, that's something that's in the 1104 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 1: horizon for those two. But to see their connection already, 1105 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 1: just based on the last two weeks of training camp 1106 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: practices that we've seen, it seems pretty good. It seems 1107 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: like they've got it down and to think about how 1108 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 1: it can only get better. I'm really excited because they've 1109 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: made some great plays together, connecting on some awesome passes 1110 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: throughout the last two weeks. That's great news, Maddie after 1111 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: giving up a first rounder for him, that's great news 1112 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 1: that he comes in and immediately camp offensive MVP, Who 1113 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: are you giving on the defensive side of the ball? 1114 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 1: Defensive side of the ball. It's tough because I think 1115 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: the defensive line has really had a great training camp, 1116 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 1: and I think my eyes go to the defensive line 1117 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 1: just because that's a position group on defense that definitely 1118 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,959 Speaker 1: added the most new players. And when you're speaking about 1119 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 1: new players, I'll give it to Mario Addison just because 1120 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: of the leadership that he's going to bring to the 1121 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 1: team as a whole, as well as the defensive line 1122 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 1: room and his skill set. This is someone who overlast 1123 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: four years, we've seen him rack up thirty nine sacks, 1124 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 1: I believe, and to be in your thirties and still 1125 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: having that production based on what is old in the NFL. 1126 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 1: I'll say that in quotation marks because Lorenzo Alexander got 1127 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 1: on me for calling Mario old and Mario calling himself old. 1128 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 1: But I think he's going to be an important part 1129 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 1: to this defensive line and how they want to shift 1130 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: and change and move and affect the quarterback. He's got 1131 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,479 Speaker 1: some great pass rush technique in him. I think he's 1132 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: going to be important on the inside, important on the outside, 1133 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 1: wherever they choose to put him. He's going to be 1134 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 1: really great part to this defense that wants to be 1135 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 1: a top three defense again this season. They don't want 1136 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: to go back from where they were last season. They 1137 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: only want to go forward. And I think another important 1138 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: part of that is adding defensive line coach Eric Washington 1139 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 1: to the team. He's someone who has a existing connection 1140 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: with Mario prior to the Bills because they were both 1141 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers at the same time. All Right, 1142 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 1: So we've got the offensive MVP of Steph Diggs we've 1143 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: got the defensive MVP of Mario Addison. Who's the most 1144 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: improved player on your Mattie Awards list? Most improved, I'll 1145 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 1: give that to Sir Josh Allen. There are so many 1146 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: things that people you know would say Josh needs to 1147 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 1: do this. Josh needs to do that. He needs to 1148 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 1: work on the deep ball. He needs to be more consistent, 1149 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 1: he needs to know the playbook better. After his second 1150 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: season in the NFL and even after his first season, honestly, 1151 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 1: we saw him make really great strides when it came 1152 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: to decision making, when it came to less interceptions, when 1153 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 1: it came to the playbook. I think when we look 1154 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 1: at year three for this quarterback, I have high hopes 1155 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 1: for what and how he can deliver to this offense. 1156 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Connecting on several passes throughout practices, even in the scrimmage, 1157 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: his timing, his chemistry with those receivers looks so great. 1158 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 1: And they're doing this against a top three defense. I 1159 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 1: know I say this quite frequently, but the fact that 1160 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 1: they look this good against this talented of a defense 1161 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: has to say something for when they hit the ground 1162 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 1: on Week one, going up against the Jets and some 1163 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: other talented defense is as well that they'll face in 1164 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 1: the weeks to come once the season gets rolling. But Josh, 1165 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: from a deep ball perspective, from a technique perspective, from 1166 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 1: a connection perspective, I think you can look at him 1167 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 1: and see that he's made strides in the right direction 1168 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 1: for all of that. Now, Brian day Ball said today, 1169 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 1: my confidence in Josh Allen is never going to waiver. 1170 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 1: But there is still a lot that he can improve 1171 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 1: on and still a lot that he can get better at. So, 1172 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 1: of course, every single day is a new day for Josh. 1173 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 1: Every single day. He wants to get better. He's said 1174 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: multiple times. Some days are great days for me. Some 1175 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: days are not so great days for me. It just 1176 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: depends on how the balls coming off my hands and 1177 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: getting into those receivers hands. So I expect a lot 1178 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 1: out of this guy this season based on what he's shown, 1179 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 1: based on how his teammates have talked about him, and 1180 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 1: based on how the coaching staff has talked about him. 1181 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 1: That's awesome news for the Bills that he has been 1182 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: so improved in training camp. Scary for the rest of 1183 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 1: the league. In my opinion, If you get improved play 1184 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 1: a quarterback upon with this defense and all of the 1185 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 1: weapons that you have. Who's been the offensive rookie of 1186 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 1: training camp for you? I'm sure you guys already know 1187 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: this one, because this player has been talked about so 1188 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 1: much throughout training camp. It has to be Gabriel Davis, 1189 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 1: the UCF product getting drafted in the fourth round. This 1190 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: was a wide receiver draft that people said was so 1191 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 1: deep and you could get a good ride receiver through 1192 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: the third round. Now they find Gabriel Davis in the 1193 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: fourth round, which I am not surprised that they found 1194 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: him because Brandon and his scouts are so good at 1195 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 1: their jobs that he scored twenty three touchdowns during his 1196 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 1: time at UCF, got into the record books for a 1197 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 1: few different things. His average per reception I think was 1198 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 1: around sixteen point one yards per catch for his career 1199 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: at UCF. This is someone who wants to know the 1200 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: entire routree, wants to play every single position at receiver, 1201 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 1: is willing to do that, has a confidence about himself, 1202 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 1: I think coming into this training camp, just how he's 1203 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 1: shown that he knows the playbook to his fellow teammates 1204 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 1: has been impressive as well. Isaiah Hodgens said that he 1205 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 1: and Gabriel Davis worked on note cards together with this 1206 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 1: offense because it was a tough one to get down. 1207 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 1: And John Brown had had quite a few things to 1208 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 1: say about the rookie receivers and that they're helping the 1209 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 1: veterans learn this offense. So a lot of good things 1210 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 1: have come out of camp when it comes two players 1211 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 1: talking about Davis and the other rookies, but man, Gabriel 1212 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 1: Davis has had some great catches throughout camp, and anytime 1213 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: there is a tough ball that comes his way, whether 1214 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 1: he is being tightly covered or whether it's a tough 1215 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 1: catch to make, he does everything he can to make 1216 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 1: that catch. And I think that's one thing that the 1217 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 1: Bill's coaching staff loves about him is his body and 1218 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: his effort and his physicality when he's on the field 1219 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: where one Bills live with Maddie glab talking about the 1220 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Bills training camp standouts. We've got the offensive and defensive MVP. 1221 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 1: Most improved offensive rookie. Okay, who's the defensive rookie that 1222 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:46,800 Speaker 1: stood out to you, Maddie? Defensive rookie. There's not too 1223 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 1: many defensive rookies that we drafted this year, so I'll 1224 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 1: give it to aj Epanessa. I think when he came 1225 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: into this team, he was tasked with something that's not 1226 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 1: the easiest thing to do. Eric Washington and Leslie Fraser 1227 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 1: asked him, you need to learn all four positions on 1228 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 1: this defensive line, and as a rookie who played in 1229 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 1: a different defense, your eyes may be quite wide coming 1230 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 1: into this team with the task as tall as that. 1231 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 1: But he has a great room to lean on full 1232 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 1: of veteran defensive lineman that has have played for so 1233 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,520 Speaker 1: much time and have a great amount of experience in 1234 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. And there's been flashes from him during this 1235 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 1: training camp, whether it's rushing the passer, whether it's things 1236 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,640 Speaker 1: that he's done in O line, D line individual drills, 1237 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 1: blowing past a couple offensive lineman. I like his size, 1238 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 1: I like his speed in the combine. People said he's 1239 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 1: not the fastest. He's not the fastest, but I think 1240 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 1: how he comes off the line of this line of 1241 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 1: scrimmage with his physicality is something that's going to be 1242 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,440 Speaker 1: great for this team. And I think they'll find a 1243 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,800 Speaker 1: way to you use him in certain packages this year. Yeah, 1244 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: there's not many times we're going to ask aja to 1245 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 1: run a forty yard dash during a play. It's a 1246 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,920 Speaker 1: short burst and that has been impressive to me as 1247 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 1: well from the clips I've seen of him through training 1248 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 1: camp as well as his college film. And then last 1249 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 1: one for me, who's been the biggest camp surprise for you, Bettie? 1250 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 1: This one's a little tough. There's two guys that I 1251 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 1: think are worthy of this award, and the first one 1252 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 1: is a rookie and it's Tyler Bass, the kicker. They 1253 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 1: drafted him because of what they saw out of him 1254 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 1: in the Senior Bowl. Everybody was talking about this kid's 1255 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,479 Speaker 1: strong leg and how he can make these long long 1256 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 1: field goals and that he would go and put it 1257 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 1: on social media too, about making you know, sixty yard 1258 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 1: field goals and things like that, and I think all 1259 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 1: of us were thinking, Okay, let's just wait and see 1260 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 1: until he gets to camp so he can actually proved this. 1261 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 1: And also, it's not easy to kick in Buffalo again 1262 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 1: with the weather and the wind, that's something that's tough 1263 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 1: to do. But he's shown time and time again that 1264 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,840 Speaker 1: he's a talented kicker. Yesterday during training camp, let me 1265 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,880 Speaker 1: check my notes, he had a make and a miss, 1266 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: so He missed at fifty five yard field goal yesterday 1267 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,840 Speaker 1: during the scrimmage portion and made a forty one yard 1268 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 1: field goal during the scrimmage portion. Made two extra points 1269 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 1: as well. The day before that, he was seven for 1270 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 1: seven when it came to field goals. So this is 1271 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 1: this is someone who I think can help on this team. 1272 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Of course, we saw Stephen Hauschk was released yesterday. Hate 1273 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 1: to see him leave, But a rookie like this comes 1274 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 1: in and I think with his strength and with his 1275 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 1: leg he can do some great things with this offense. Yeah, 1276 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 1: no question about quickly. Isaiah McKenzie. This is someone who's 1277 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 1: who's been on the team last season and he's your 1278 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,720 Speaker 1: gadget typewide receiver, he's your jet sweep guy. But when 1279 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 1: he's been fed the ball in training camp, he's made 1280 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,719 Speaker 1: quite a few catches and really his showcase his speed. 1281 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Brian dave Ball talked about isa McKenzie to Get today, 1282 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 1: called him an energizer. Bunny said he's always on the 1283 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 1: go and is someone who's going to find a role 1284 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 1: for himself in that wide receiving room. Yeah, there's no 1285 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 1: question every team wants a guy who's dynamite with a 1286 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: ball in his hands, isah mckenzis. He certainly falls into 1287 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 1: that into that category if they can get him the 1288 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: ball somehow, some way. That's when you see the other 1289 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator kind of hold his breath and say, oh 1290 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 1: my gosh, somebody get him. And also, I will say 1291 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,160 Speaker 1: it's impressive for Tyler bast to come in and beat 1292 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,640 Speaker 1: out a kicker with the credentials of Stephen Houshka. I 1293 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: know that Stephen Houshka has you know, has been in 1294 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 1: the league thirteen years going into his third teenth year. 1295 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: But there's no question it's hard to beat out a 1296 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 1: guy with the track record of Steven Haushka. And hats 1297 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 1: off to Tyler Bass for at least for the moment 1298 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,599 Speaker 1: getting that done. Now, the last one I add for you, Mattie, 1299 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,720 Speaker 1: who's a comeback player of the Year. I mean, there's 1300 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,639 Speaker 1: so many things that happened during during a season where guys, 1301 01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 1: you know, struggle at times during a season, then they 1302 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,880 Speaker 1: come back and you know who has shown this year 1303 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 1: to have bounced back from maybe what was a subpar 1304 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 1: last year, or an injury riddle last year, or what 1305 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:35,640 Speaker 1: have you. My best comeback for training camp has to 1306 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:40,440 Speaker 1: be Harrison Phillips. I think his presence on the defensive 1307 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 1: line was missed to his personality, his work ethic. He 1308 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 1: tore that ACL last season, I think in the second 1309 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 1: or third game of the season and missed the rest 1310 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 1: of the season, unfortunately, after having a really productive first season, 1311 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 1: and now he comes back to the team completely held 1312 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 1: during training camp and in the strides that he went 1313 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,519 Speaker 1: through this off season in particular to make sure he 1314 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,320 Speaker 1: was where he needed to be to where he could 1315 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 1: come to training camp and hit the ground run and 1316 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,360 Speaker 1: was crazy. I remember him talking about being at home 1317 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:21,000 Speaker 1: during quarantine and trying to be on FaceTime with a 1318 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 1: coach and with a person from the training staff to 1319 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,640 Speaker 1: make sure what he was doing was correct. And he 1320 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,679 Speaker 1: said his girlfriend would would take video of him doing 1321 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 1: certain exercises or certain drills and then she would send 1322 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 1: it off to a coach and to a training staff 1323 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,759 Speaker 1: member and they would look at it and give him feedback. 1324 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,719 Speaker 1: So you know, doing that every single day is not easy. 1325 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,479 Speaker 1: In doing it with a smile on your face is 1326 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 1: not easy either. And when he spoke to the media 1327 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 1: about being back in practices at training camp, I mean 1328 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 1: you could just see how happy he was that he 1329 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,640 Speaker 1: had finally made it, and I think a lot of 1330 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 1: his teammates are really pumped that he's back on the 1331 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 1: line as well, because he's another young defensive lineman who 1332 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,240 Speaker 1: can add depth to the defensive line, which is something 1333 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,280 Speaker 1: that they certainly need with the way that they want 1334 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 1: to play these defensive linemen. Maddie, Thanks, it's great having 1335 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,360 Speaker 1: you on. I'm glad we had your eyes and ears 1336 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,559 Speaker 1: out at the practice yesterday and throughout camp. Thanks for 1337 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 1: doing that for us and the Mattie Awards. Uh, this 1338 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 1: is that was a good group right there. I will 1339 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 1: hope that it is the precursor to a fantastic season. 1340 01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 1: Thanks Maddie, No problem, guys, good to chat again. All right, 1341 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 1: Maddie Glab coming on One Bill's Live. We're gonna be back. 1342 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break and come back. Brian Dabele 1343 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,080 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators, got a few things to say. We're also 1344 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,719 Speaker 1: going to open up the fan mail bag. Also, Jim Kelly, 1345 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 1: Steve Young coming up later in the program. One Bill's 1346 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,720 Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Grain Deal. 1347 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 1: Welcome back to one of those lives. Thanks to Mattie 1348 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,400 Speaker 1: glad for coming in last half hour giving us her 1349 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: Mattie Awards for Training Bills Training Camp. You can go 1350 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 1: back and listen to that on the podcast at the 1351 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot com or the Bills app or at 1352 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 1: Spotify and on all the podcast platforms that the Bills use. 1353 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,120 Speaker 1: It would. We're gonna open up the fan mail bag now. 1354 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Brian Dabole sound on in a minute too, 1355 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 1: but we're gonna open up the fan mail bag. We 1356 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,400 Speaker 1: got people sitting and send tons of questions. We put 1357 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 1: it out there to you are loyal listeners about questions 1358 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,040 Speaker 1: you might have for Eric Wood or me. And hear 1359 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:38,639 Speaker 1: the first batch that we're gonna get to this from Justin. Justin, Eric, 1360 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:44,320 Speaker 1: what wings do you like best? Drums or flat? Drums? 1361 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,719 Speaker 1: Are flat? I mean appreciate. I appreciate them both. If 1362 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 1: I had to choose one, maybe drums, Maybe you get 1363 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,439 Speaker 1: a little bit more meat there, but I appreciate them both. 1364 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't discriminate. I don't I don't order all of 1365 01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,800 Speaker 1: one or the other one. I would rings. How about you, Steve, Yeah, 1366 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,720 Speaker 1: same with you. I don't order him special, but I 1367 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,160 Speaker 1: like flats better. I like flats better there. They seem 1368 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 1: to be crunchier a little bit for me. I like 1369 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,439 Speaker 1: the you know, just I like them better. What can 1370 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:14,160 Speaker 1: I say, Mack call me crazy? Uh? They dipped good too, Okay. 1371 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 1: So from Max, that's good. You don't really you like 1372 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,719 Speaker 1: them both, right? I mean you're like you're an offensive 1373 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 1: lineman too. By the way, So I for nothing, I 1374 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,559 Speaker 1: popped up your bio just so I didn't make any 1375 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 1: like to like say you were a nineteen year VET 1376 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,800 Speaker 1: when you're only nine year vet. That kind of thing. Bro, 1377 01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,519 Speaker 1: you gotta update your bio on Wikipedia. They still got 1378 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,599 Speaker 1: you like three fourteen, you're looking like a chubby little 1379 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,720 Speaker 1: sixth grader on those biopicks you got. You know, that's 1380 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,280 Speaker 1: that's perfect, that's all good. I owned that I got. 1381 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 1: I got paid to be fat for a long time 1382 01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,479 Speaker 1: and I'm cool with that. Yeah. I was like, wow, 1383 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's not the guy that No, it is him, 1384 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah. I was laughing at because we all 1385 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,560 Speaker 1: have those pictures from our past that you know, the 1386 01:14:54,880 --> 01:15:00,160 Speaker 1: that are different and you guys exactly right. So you 1387 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 1: got you're right. You gotta own it, Okay. From Max, 1388 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis has been the training camp surprise. Does that 1389 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,640 Speaker 1: transfer into a substantial role with a healthy amount of 1390 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,439 Speaker 1: playing time of this season or is it likely not 1391 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: to A lot of mouths mouths to feed, would like 1392 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,800 Speaker 1: to hear your opinion. That's interesting too from Max and Eric. 1393 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,760 Speaker 1: I'll get your take on it. What do you think 1394 01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,040 Speaker 1: you got? You got Stefan Diggs, you got Cole Beasley, 1395 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,840 Speaker 1: you got John Brown, and this Gabe Davis as well 1396 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 1: as we don't know. Everybody says he's playing great. Awesome, 1397 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,479 Speaker 1: that's awesome. We've seen other rookies play great and then 1398 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're covering kicks for seventeen weeks. 1399 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,680 Speaker 1: What how big of a role is it even possible 1400 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,920 Speaker 1: for Gabe Davis to carve out on an offense that 1401 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,800 Speaker 1: likes to run three wides not four? Yeah? I think 1402 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,640 Speaker 1: I think right now where you're sitting, you you have 1403 01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 1: your three started receivers in place, with your slop being 1404 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley and John Brown and Diggs on the outside. 1405 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,839 Speaker 1: Where this is great as it provides you incredible depth 1406 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,000 Speaker 1: behind those guys, and you always want to hit on 1407 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,640 Speaker 1: your draft picks and this just it appears at this 1408 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:05,880 Speaker 1: point another great draft pick by the Buffalo Bills and 1409 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,639 Speaker 1: Brandon being in his staff, it just seems like another one. 1410 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 1: What's his role early on? I don't know. Maybe they 1411 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 1: get to some more for wide receiver sets simply because 1412 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,839 Speaker 1: you have for true receivers you like. I love Isaiah 1413 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 1: McKenzie's game. I think there's still a role for him, 1414 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,160 Speaker 1: a role for Andre Roberts and are they traditional receiver 1415 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:29,640 Speaker 1: roles sometimes? But I love when isa McKenzie last year 1416 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 1: would be implemented in the Jet sweep, whether he got 1417 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,040 Speaker 1: it or it was simply a faith that's really tough 1418 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,720 Speaker 1: for a defense to manage. In my isamh. McKenzie can 1419 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,719 Speaker 1: be a good slot receiver, probably not elite slot receiver 1420 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 1: in this league, but he is elite with the ball 1421 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,679 Speaker 1: in his hands. He makes guys miss, he makes plays. 1422 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,400 Speaker 1: You saw him really open up the Titans game the 1423 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:55,800 Speaker 1: Titans game last year with a long run, so I 1424 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,400 Speaker 1: guess it was a catch. I think it was a shovel. 1425 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,200 Speaker 1: But I think they all have roles. What that role 1426 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,639 Speaker 1: looks like with Gabriel Davis is tough to see now, 1427 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,840 Speaker 1: but with any injuries, I think you have a guy, 1428 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 1: you have a ton of confidence and at this point 1429 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,840 Speaker 1: to step in and make some place for you. Yeah, 1430 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,599 Speaker 1: that's right. He does give you good depth, no question 1431 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,120 Speaker 1: if he's if he's that kind of guy. But here's 1432 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 1: the thing, if he does somehow, if he does get 1433 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,439 Speaker 1: his way onto the field, so all of a sudden, 1434 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,000 Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna run four wides because do you 1435 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 1: know how good that guy's got play in practice all 1436 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,920 Speaker 1: the time? To get a coach NFL coaching staff to 1437 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,400 Speaker 1: alter what they're showing, Josh Allen, what they're showing this 1438 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,679 Speaker 1: offensive line, the protection schemes, they have to incorporate the people. 1439 01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:39,479 Speaker 1: They gotta take Dawson Knox or Devin Singletary or Zach 1440 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,640 Speaker 1: somebody's got to come off the field. You can't just 1441 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,800 Speaker 1: put an extra guy out there. Do you know how 1442 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,040 Speaker 1: good a rookie whiteout has to play For a coaching 1443 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 1: staff to say, you know what, let's throw that let's 1444 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:55,160 Speaker 1: throw that eleven personnel away and let's go ten personnel, 1445 01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 1: you know you gotta be like, wow, right, yeah, that's 1446 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:05,599 Speaker 1: a great point. But that's something you could do in 1447 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,280 Speaker 1: year three with an offensive coordinator. And this is where 1448 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,559 Speaker 1: it benefits the Bills right now that they're not starting 1449 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 1: from scratch again with a new offensive coordinator. Like so 1450 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,799 Speaker 1: many teams are in this league, you can simply add 1451 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,439 Speaker 1: to what you got because you have so many returning 1452 01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 1: starters from last year. But I do see your point. 1453 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,280 Speaker 1: He is going to have to play extremely well, especially 1454 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,920 Speaker 1: in big moments of games. But is there a role 1455 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,360 Speaker 1: with him within this team. It sure looks like it 1456 01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 1: because as soon as to find Diggs couldn't practice, it 1457 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,800 Speaker 1: appears like he was the next man up in that 1458 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 1: receiver room to replace him on the outside. Right, And 1459 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,639 Speaker 1: think about this too, it would be that if he's 1460 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 1: playing good enough, you say, okay, we're not afraid to 1461 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,400 Speaker 1: put him in the on the field. I'm not gonna 1462 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 1: sit down John Brown or Cole Beasley or Steph Diggs 1463 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 1: of course, to get Gabe Davis on the field. But 1464 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,679 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, how about this no preseason games. 1465 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,759 Speaker 1: Let's I'm this is me talking. I haven't seen this happening, 1466 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,720 Speaker 1: and I'm just saying it might may be a good 1467 01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,760 Speaker 1: idea to say, well, you know what, we don't know 1468 01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 1: what the Jets are gonna do defensively, Let's have a 1469 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,760 Speaker 1: four wide receiver set up and ready for Week one 1470 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,720 Speaker 1: and if it comes the right moment, let's let's throw 1471 01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,160 Speaker 1: it out there, see if we can make some hay 1472 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:19,600 Speaker 1: with it, See if they have a see if we 1473 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 1: can get a matchup we like. Also, what if we're, 1474 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,880 Speaker 1: for instance, if the Bills are two touchdown lead in 1475 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,240 Speaker 1: the second half, or what if you get to that 1476 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,200 Speaker 1: you throw that four wide receiver set out there and 1477 01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,439 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now Miami's got to get ready 1478 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,920 Speaker 1: for that the next week. It's all the first time 1479 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,479 Speaker 1: anybody's gonna see this stuff, so there's gonna be a 1480 01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,200 Speaker 1: little of that going on. I would think, not only 1481 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:45,680 Speaker 1: do you have every single solitary personnel combination you can 1482 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,400 Speaker 1: think of ready to kind of go, but you also 1483 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 1: kind of want to show all of them to hamstring 1484 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 1: the other team's ability to key on what you really 1485 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,559 Speaker 1: want to do against them. Am I right? Yeah, you're 1486 01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,000 Speaker 1: exactly right. And as soon as you said, maybe you're 1487 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,759 Speaker 1: up by two scores and you put something on film 1488 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 1: that someone has to prepare for. We used to have 1489 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,040 Speaker 1: this rule and we'd be watching New England film of 1490 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 1: their blitzes and we'd watch so at the beginning of 1491 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,840 Speaker 1: each clip. When you're watching film in the meeting room, 1492 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 1: it'll say the situation because a lot of them are 1493 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,599 Speaker 1: cut ups. So you're not watching a game in chron 1494 01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 1: and launch order. You're watching cutups. Maybe it's third and 1495 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:22,439 Speaker 1: three to seven, third and eight plus, whatever it may be, 1496 01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,960 Speaker 1: and you're trying to find tendencies. Well, we would find 1497 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,720 Speaker 1: this one random blitz by the Patriots, and then you 1498 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,160 Speaker 1: got to prepare for it and all that. And I'd 1499 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,800 Speaker 1: say back up real quick, look at the score. It 1500 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,200 Speaker 1: would always be them up by two or three scores 1501 01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,439 Speaker 1: second half of a game. Will they do something that 1502 01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,760 Speaker 1: wasn't even structurally sound just so you have to get 1503 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,040 Speaker 1: it on film, just so you have to prepare all 1504 01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 1: week for it, And so we would. You know, you 1505 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 1: would always have to be conscientious that offenses do it 1506 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,000 Speaker 1: as well. You put in a package, you put in 1507 01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,479 Speaker 1: a formation, whatever it may be. That was the old 1508 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 1: wildcat philosophy with Rex Ryan. A lot of times. Yes 1509 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,759 Speaker 1: he liked the wildcat. He also knew as a defensive 1510 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 1: coordinator that when it team runs a good amount of wildcat, 1511 01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,400 Speaker 1: you have to spend a majority, not a majority, a 1512 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 1: significant portion of practice throughout the week to prepare for it. Well, 1513 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,599 Speaker 1: now you're not prepared for the rest of the offense. 1514 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,640 Speaker 1: You're worried about this goofy formation. It's easy for the 1515 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 1: offensive run because you're simply just napping to the running 1516 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,599 Speaker 1: back and you put the quarterback and receiver and you're 1517 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,879 Speaker 1: calling the same plays, the same terminology, same blocking schemes. 1518 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,720 Speaker 1: But the defense has to now prepared for that same philosophy. 1519 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,800 Speaker 1: Great points, du Yeah, it's exactly right, and I think 1520 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 1: you're gonna see a ton of gamesmanship in Week one 1521 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,639 Speaker 1: or two of the NFL season coming up this season. 1522 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,760 Speaker 1: I think Sean McDermott told us there's a ton of 1523 01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,640 Speaker 1: apprehension on a normal year, even after you see him 1524 01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,360 Speaker 1: for four weeks on preseason film, there's a lot of 1525 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,120 Speaker 1: apprehension about what they're gonna look like on opening Day, 1526 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 1: and now with the lockdown on the media content and 1527 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,160 Speaker 1: what people are allowed and not to allowed to report on, 1528 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be an absolute It's going to be 1529 01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,160 Speaker 1: the Wild West on Week one of the regular season. 1530 01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 1: I just know it. It's gonna be crazy. I'm thinking 1531 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,360 Speaker 1: about it makes me sick to my stomach, you know, 1532 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,720 Speaker 1: in apprehension about what's going to happen. So because you 1533 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,840 Speaker 1: know somebody's gonna get something. Floki. Yeah. I think about 1534 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,679 Speaker 1: how the Bills started the season last year against the Jets. 1535 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,640 Speaker 1: They run their normal offense all through the preseason and 1536 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,600 Speaker 1: they come out of the Jets against the Jets in 1537 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,000 Speaker 1: twenty one personnel. So you got pat to Markov on 1538 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,360 Speaker 1: the field as the fullback, two wide receivers in the 1539 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,840 Speaker 1: running back, in the tight end. You bring out twenty 1540 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:28,880 Speaker 1: one personnel and shift to empty set a five wide look. 1541 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,679 Speaker 1: You shift to that three times in a row, going 1542 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,680 Speaker 1: no huddle. You pick up all their defensive checks at 1543 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,439 Speaker 1: that point, because now when you shift, it's a road game, 1544 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,960 Speaker 1: you're at the Jets. They have to signal all of 1545 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,479 Speaker 1: their checks because you just went to five wide. Now 1546 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,599 Speaker 1: you pick up on all those. Now, Josh Allen has 1547 01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,880 Speaker 1: a way better picture of the coveragees he's going to 1548 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 1: see throughout the game. Sometimes you just get lined up 1549 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,559 Speaker 1: and when they think you're gonna shift out of it, 1550 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,160 Speaker 1: then you run a quick hitting run play and they 1551 01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,200 Speaker 1: start the season like that. What's it look like in 1552 01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:02,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty when you have all these new offensive coordinators 1553 01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,439 Speaker 1: throughout the NFL and and you have no film on them. 1554 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,080 Speaker 1: It's crazy I I can't get over the fact most 1555 01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,280 Speaker 1: people don't give it that much thought. I'm thinking it 1556 01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 1: is gonna be absolutely off the hook everywhere in the NFL. 1557 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,800 Speaker 1: Every single game is gonna be like what what are you? 1558 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,160 Speaker 1: What is that? You know it's gonna happen. I know 1559 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:26,880 Speaker 1: it is. Um Yeah, excited? Week two? Yeah? Get week two? 1560 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,760 Speaker 1: Gets c chan Galilee. What he's gonna do coming out 1561 01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:32,320 Speaker 1: of You know, he's been out of football for a 1562 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,599 Speaker 1: few years and now you get him coming in as 1563 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,840 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator down in Miami, so he's still got 1564 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 1: fits or maybe it's too uh, but they had some 1565 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,200 Speaker 1: pretty good success last year, and I know from talking 1566 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 1: to Fits he really liked their offensive coordinator last year 1567 01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:47,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of stuff they were doing. And that 1568 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,479 Speaker 1: was the first time he had ever been in that 1569 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:55,439 Speaker 1: New England Josh McDaniel's type offense, that Chad o'sheay was 1570 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,519 Speaker 1: down there running. Now are there? Does Fits have any 1571 01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,880 Speaker 1: say in this Chan Gailey offense? I want to call 1572 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,960 Speaker 1: it Chan Gailey two point zero with Fits, but I 1573 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,960 Speaker 1: guess he had them with the Jets too, so it's 1574 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 1: three point zero. But it's you know, it's it's little 1575 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 1: things like that this year. That are fascinating to me. Yep, 1576 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,479 Speaker 1: that's it, Steve task rack word. One more question from 1577 01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:15,800 Speaker 1: the mail back. We got a ton of these and 1578 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,599 Speaker 1: we're gonna get one more of a squeezing one more 1579 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,559 Speaker 1: before the break. This is from Jackie says, now that 1580 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,280 Speaker 1: the kicking battle is quote unquote resolved, do you have 1581 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,120 Speaker 1: any concerns about fielding a rookie kicker? Remember when they 1582 01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,920 Speaker 1: cut Steve Christie and they kept Jake arians Arians was brutal. 1583 01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't want the season derailed by an inexperienced kicker. 1584 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 1: His talent isn't in question, It's more about consistency at 1585 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,599 Speaker 1: the NFL Later, at the NFL level, What do you think, 1586 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,960 Speaker 1: Eric about keeping a kick you drafted him, it's got 1587 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,840 Speaker 1: a huge leg. What about your feelings about going into 1588 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,800 Speaker 1: a season with a rookie kicker, particularly one who's never 1589 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,760 Speaker 1: kicked in an NFL game. Yeah. For a team like 1590 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:54,920 Speaker 1: the Bills that has so many returning starters, so much 1591 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,120 Speaker 1: returning scheme, they're one of the most predictable teams of 1592 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,880 Speaker 1: what they'll look like, how consistent they'll be week in 1593 01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,200 Speaker 1: a week out, I would assume. Now you bring in 1594 01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:07,719 Speaker 1: a rookie kicker. Could it derail everything? I see Jack's 1595 01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,440 Speaker 1: point exactly here. It was one of my biggest concerns 1596 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,519 Speaker 1: with moving on from Stephen Houshkill, where maybe his legs 1597 01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,880 Speaker 1: wearing down a little bit, maybe he can't put every 1598 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:17,639 Speaker 1: kick out of the back of the end zone, maybe 1599 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,479 Speaker 1: he's not as accurate from fifty plus anymore. But man, 1600 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,240 Speaker 1: you know what you're getting on Sundays from Steve. Is 1601 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Bass going to be an improvement? I sure hope. So, 1602 01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,200 Speaker 1: I sure hope they have the confidence in them just 1603 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:32,639 Speaker 1: maybe stick through some early season struggles if he has any. 1604 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,800 Speaker 1: But you know, I have faith in Brandon being that 1605 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,240 Speaker 1: he's not going to make a hasty decision at kicker 1606 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 1: to save a few dollars against the salary cap. I 1607 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,400 Speaker 1: say few. It's easy to say few when you're talking 1608 01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,799 Speaker 1: about a hundred and eighty million dollars salary cap at times, 1609 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 1: but you know, you save cap money. But I don't 1610 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,719 Speaker 1: think that's the reason they got rid of Stephen Houshka. 1611 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of confidence Tyler Bass, which 1612 01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 1: is a great sign. I agree with you. If you're 1613 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to make a lot of tough decisions this year. 1614 01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,160 Speaker 1: It's not just about your rookie kickers and keeping him 1615 01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,840 Speaker 1: over of a long time veteran guy. You're having to 1616 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,040 Speaker 1: make decisions on rookies and guys who are on the 1617 01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 1: bubble and players who you've had for a couple of 1618 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,080 Speaker 1: years who maybe now are getting outshined by a younger player. 1619 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,240 Speaker 1: And you have no preseason games to go by, you 1620 01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:19,559 Speaker 1: have none of that stuff to go by. You're just 1621 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:24,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to make the decisions with them information at hand. Yeah, 1622 01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:28,120 Speaker 1: and luckily for kickers you're getting you can run some 1623 01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,880 Speaker 1: live reps now, and you're they're gonna see what they 1624 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 1: see on Sundays. Essentially, you know, it's not like it's 1625 01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,360 Speaker 1: sped up at other positions. You're not looking at a 1626 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,519 Speaker 1: receiver saying, hey, can he when the lights come on? 1627 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,200 Speaker 1: Can he truly separate? Or is this just practice? You're 1628 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:46,479 Speaker 1: still kicking a football. Maybe I'm making it seem making 1629 01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,760 Speaker 1: special team semisier than the one than they are. I 1630 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,200 Speaker 1: don't want to offend any special teamers out there in 1631 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,560 Speaker 1: special team land, like yourself, cr in the path acapees 1632 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,360 Speaker 1: and all that, But essentially they're kicking a ball in Sundays, 1633 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,320 Speaker 1: and you could get a pretty good indication that throughout practice. 1634 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,880 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Eric Wood coming back. Hey, we're gonna take 1635 01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 1: a quick break here. We've got Brian Dable soundbites, Steve, 1636 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,280 Speaker 1: Steve Young, and Jim Kelly coming up at the two 1637 01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 1: o'clock hour. Brian Dable soundbites and more of the mail 1638 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 1: bag coming up after this one live It's gonna buy 1639 01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:29,920 Speaker 1: Collid to Health on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to 1640 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:31,880 Speaker 1: one of those lives. Steve Tasker, Eric Would here till 1641 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,240 Speaker 1: three o'clock. Coming up at the two o'clock hour, Jim Kelly, 1642 01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,400 Speaker 1: Steve Young coming at you about the No Punt Game, 1643 01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,720 Speaker 1: the game that took release back in nineteen ninety two. 1644 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,240 Speaker 1: We are going down the list of of our mail 1645 01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:47,000 Speaker 1: bag now. I gotta I gotta admit, Bills fans may 1646 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 1: be aware of this, but Brian Dable comes from the 1647 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:54,720 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick school of coaching, and he's been around the 1648 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,920 Speaker 1: block of a number of times. I mean, he played it. 1649 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,960 Speaker 1: He coached right before he came to Buffalo's in Alabama, 1650 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,040 Speaker 1: won the national championship and all of that. And uh 1651 01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 1: so we were gonna bring you sound bites from his 1652 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:10,559 Speaker 1: post practice but he sounds. Yeah, he didn't give us anything, 1653 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,720 Speaker 1: so none of it's interesting, So we're gonna get it. 1654 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna skip it. So it was like, yeah, okay, 1655 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,800 Speaker 1: we're doing good that kind of stuff. It's like, so 1656 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,760 Speaker 1: we're just gonna stick with the mail bag. We didn't 1657 01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,599 Speaker 1: get any good sound from Brian Dable, so we're gonna 1658 01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna stick with you. Your questions to Eric Wood 1659 01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,040 Speaker 1: and myself Steve Tasker here on One Bill's Live mail Bag. 1660 01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,519 Speaker 1: Here we go from p W chef, here we go. 1661 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,519 Speaker 1: How impactful will it be for the players not to 1662 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,920 Speaker 1: have fans in the stands this season? Also, how much 1663 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 1: will it impact the players, especially the rookies, to not 1664 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to play in any preseason games. All right, first, 1665 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 1: let's take the fan question first. He would I it's 1666 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,360 Speaker 1: a difference, There's no question about it, particularly in a 1667 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,519 Speaker 1: town like Buffalo. Now, the rookies won't know any better, 1668 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:59,680 Speaker 1: but it's it's a difference maker, I think in Buffalo. Absolutely, 1669 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about one of the best home field advantages 1670 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You're talking about cold December games that 1671 01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,320 Speaker 1: you know you walk into the stadium and it's you know, 1672 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,040 Speaker 1: you're maybe your juices aren't flowing yet, the weather is terrible, 1673 01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,200 Speaker 1: and you walk out in front of seventy some thousand 1674 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:19,679 Speaker 1: screaming Bills fans, you drive in through the tailgates. That 1675 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,840 Speaker 1: that impacts you as a player, That gets you going. Now, 1676 01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,720 Speaker 1: these guys are going to get used to performing in 1677 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,120 Speaker 1: front of no fans. Is you are very limited fans 1678 01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,800 Speaker 1: And we heard Sean McDermott say this week it's ridiculous 1679 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 1: that they say it's fair for some stadiums to have 1680 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,639 Speaker 1: fans and some not. And where it stands right now, 1681 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,760 Speaker 1: Buffalo can have zero fans, and so that that will 1682 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:45,120 Speaker 1: be impactful. Where I do like this team is I 1683 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:49,840 Speaker 1: think it benefits players that are mature that come out 1684 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,360 Speaker 1: every day and handle their business, that are pros because 1685 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,400 Speaker 1: those guys have already made habits and they don't that 1686 01:29:55,560 --> 01:30:04,160 Speaker 1: mean that they don't rise to occasions they're going crazy 1687 01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:08,120 Speaker 1: out in the control room. Oh, I see my battery died. 1688 01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:13,640 Speaker 1: Go ahead, he would go ahead, okay, But it benefits 1689 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,040 Speaker 1: those that are mature, that are professionals, and that's what 1690 01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 1: this team for the Bills is made up of those 1691 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,400 Speaker 1: guys have made habits on the day to day basis 1692 01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:28,759 Speaker 1: that will make them push through the lack of fans 1693 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:33,280 Speaker 1: in the stadium. All right, hold on now, as Jay 1694 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,240 Speaker 1: Jay Harrison gonna is going to change the battery out 1695 01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,040 Speaker 1: of my iob so I can actually hear what you're saying. 1696 01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,240 Speaker 1: I know I kind of interrupt you. I apologize for that. 1697 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,840 Speaker 1: One of the things we're talking about too, is the 1698 01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,080 Speaker 1: second question is and I heard Bill Belichick this morning 1699 01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,160 Speaker 1: live with the New England Media saying, listen, the players 1700 01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,360 Speaker 1: got to bring their own energy down. They can't feed 1701 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,280 Speaker 1: off the fans. And there's something to be said for that. 1702 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,599 Speaker 1: You just bring your own energy. You feed off each other. 1703 01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,599 Speaker 1: It is a different way of doing it, but it's 1704 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,000 Speaker 1: gonna suck a little something next out of the players 1705 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,679 Speaker 1: to have to bring that energy there themselves, to get, 1706 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, motivated and bring it for themselves, because there's 1707 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,800 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. You know, You're right. The fans energize you, 1708 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:15,519 Speaker 1: they really do. You've got to energize yourself now, and 1709 01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:19,000 Speaker 1: that's a difference. Yeah, And that's where having a motivation 1710 01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,880 Speaker 1: do I need to do sign language with James very fast? 1711 01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,320 Speaker 1: It's like a NASCAR just as I compliment the production 1712 01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,479 Speaker 1: team to start the show. Now, now I'll give him 1713 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:34,320 Speaker 1: some green bizing good one. Yeah, no, um, yeah, this 1714 01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,760 Speaker 1: is having vocal leaders on your team, having a motivational 1715 01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,760 Speaker 1: head coach can be more important than it usually is. 1716 01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,640 Speaker 1: We talked earlier in the show about Marvel Leave's pregame 1717 01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,160 Speaker 1: speech for the Oakland game was simply the nothing needs 1718 01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,479 Speaker 1: to be said. Well maybe this year there is some 1719 01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:52,800 Speaker 1: things that need to be said. It needs to be 1720 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,280 Speaker 1: said throughout the game to keep your energy up, to 1721 01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,760 Speaker 1: keep your juices flowing, to keep your adrenaline at a 1722 01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,800 Speaker 1: high enough spot, or you can go bang into someone 1723 01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:04,200 Speaker 1: and play this physical game for seventy plus plays on 1724 01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:07,320 Speaker 1: a Sunday afternoon. So yes, I think it impacts it 1725 01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,280 Speaker 1: in a lot of these guys. Even coming from high school. 1726 01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 1: You think about how many of these guys come from Florida, Texas, Ohio, California. 1727 01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,840 Speaker 1: Where you're playing in front of twenty thousand people in 1728 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,080 Speaker 1: high school. Then you go to these big colleges. Now 1729 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,639 Speaker 1: for the first time since you were probably in Little League, 1730 01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,320 Speaker 1: you're playing in front of you know, a quiet crowd. Yeah, 1731 01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,400 Speaker 1: your parents and your grandparents, right. I mean, that's the 1732 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,840 Speaker 1: only people are gonna watch, and even now they're not 1733 01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,040 Speaker 1: going to be there. And also the last thing, no 1734 01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:37,559 Speaker 1: preseason games. How apprehensive as a coaching staff are you 1735 01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:41,080 Speaker 1: to just, you know, throw your rookie out there, no 1736 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:45,240 Speaker 1: matter what position he plays, into an environment he's never 1737 01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,600 Speaker 1: seen before, to speed he's never seen before, with the 1738 01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:51,519 Speaker 1: intensity of an NFL game, real quick before we break. Yeah, 1739 01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,799 Speaker 1: you know, I always said it goes from a different 1740 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:57,320 Speaker 1: speed from training camp practice to the preseason to the 1741 01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,679 Speaker 1: regular season. And you're skipping that that middle step. Hopefully 1742 01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,920 Speaker 1: there's not injuries that come from that. Hopefully it's not 1743 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,680 Speaker 1: a sloppy product. I'm sure you know, there's gonna be 1744 01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,920 Speaker 1: some kinks to work out. I know that personally. I 1745 01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,920 Speaker 1: always did something dumb on film during the preseason, and 1746 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,280 Speaker 1: I thank god it was a preseason game and not 1747 01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,040 Speaker 1: a regular season game. Whether it was slipping in shoes 1748 01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,360 Speaker 1: that I was trying out that year, or a botched snap, 1749 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,639 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. If I was ever trying something 1750 01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna do in the preseason, and I was 1751 01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,920 Speaker 1: extremely thankful it wasn't a regular season game when that happened. 1752 01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,800 Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna take a break. Steve Tasker, Eric 1753 01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:30,880 Speaker 1: Wood here with you till three o'clock. Coming up just 1754 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 1: after this break, Steve Young Jim Kelly, the two Hall 1755 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,000 Speaker 1: of Fame quarterbacks, coming on to talk about the No 1756 01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:38,000 Speaker 1: Punt Game nineteen ninety two. Coming up after the break. 1757 01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,559 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Clyde to Health from Buffalo 1758 01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,519 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio, and we are broadcasting live from the Seneca Studios. 1759 01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:58,599 Speaker 1: Nothing else comes close. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. 1760 01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,120 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Eric Wood along with you till three 1761 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,280 Speaker 1: o'clock hour. We are pleased to be joined right now 1762 01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:06,760 Speaker 1: by a couple of special guests, guys who I've been 1763 01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,040 Speaker 1: acquainted with for quite some time. Of course, Jim Kelly, 1764 01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:10,800 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame quarterback for the Buffalo Bills. I 1765 01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,040 Speaker 1: played with him for a long time. And I've run 1766 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:16,400 Speaker 1: across paths and cross paths with Steve Young as well 1767 01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:19,599 Speaker 1: in my broadcast days with CBS uh he of course 1768 01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,799 Speaker 1: in the broadcast industry as well. Steve Young, Jim Kelly, guys, 1769 01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,479 Speaker 1: thank you so much for honoring us with your presence. 1770 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:28,400 Speaker 1: It's great to see you guys. Look great Steve out 1771 01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,439 Speaker 1: in California. How are you doing out there everything okay 1772 01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,960 Speaker 1: during the pandemic? Good doing good. Good to see Jimmy 1773 01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,360 Speaker 1: on the on the video here and love him and 1774 01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,280 Speaker 1: you guys like, I'm so grateful you picked a loss 1775 01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,599 Speaker 1: for me to come on and talk about. It's really 1776 01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,200 Speaker 1: it's super exciting. I can't wait to tell you how 1777 01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:48,320 Speaker 1: great the loss was for us. Okay, just so you know, 1778 01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,720 Speaker 1: but wonderful to see you guys and kind of go 1779 01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,240 Speaker 1: through some some fun history. Well, let me just say this, 1780 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,040 Speaker 1: you should have played better, Steve. You only threw for 1781 01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,519 Speaker 1: four hundred and forty nine yards and three t ds 1782 01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,559 Speaker 1: and you were you know, only twenty six to thirty 1783 01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:03,920 Speaker 1: seven as well. Is an off day for you, right, 1784 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,479 Speaker 1: I guarantee you see that. We you know, I was 1785 01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,439 Speaker 1: replacing Joe that day, and I'm sure after the game, 1786 01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone said, well Joe would have been five 1787 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:17,679 Speaker 1: hundred six hundred. That's the world we live in, Steve. 1788 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,320 Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, you know you think you think back, now, 1789 01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:23,320 Speaker 1: there's been three games of that type of no punt 1790 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:27,160 Speaker 1: games since that game in nineteen ninety two, but up 1791 01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,880 Speaker 1: to that point that had never happened. Now, one of 1792 01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:31,800 Speaker 1: the reasons is that both of you guys made sure 1793 01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,559 Speaker 1: it happened by throwing an interception. So we really never 1794 01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:38,800 Speaker 1: got to the fourth down in those series. But what 1795 01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,040 Speaker 1: if you can eat her? And I'll start with you, Jim, 1796 01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,759 Speaker 1: during that game, could you guys feel it was different? 1797 01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:46,920 Speaker 1: Start with you, Jim. Could you feel that was a 1798 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,760 Speaker 1: wild game that was going to be that way from 1799 01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:52,000 Speaker 1: the start to finish? No, I really didn't. I knew 1800 01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,120 Speaker 1: it was shouldn't be a good game. I knew that 1801 01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,800 Speaker 1: with our offense way we've been playing, I knew her 1802 01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:00,599 Speaker 1: to do well. Um, but when you play at an 1803 01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:04,240 Speaker 1: opposing teams field with the fans, you never know how 1804 01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:06,680 Speaker 1: it's going to go. And I know that a lot 1805 01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:08,559 Speaker 1: of times. I'd go into a lot of games. I'm 1806 01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:11,519 Speaker 1: sure Steve will say the same thing, where at times 1807 01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:15,679 Speaker 1: the defenses will not allow you to throw the deep ball. 1808 01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,479 Speaker 1: They will have quarter role with help behind them, and 1809 01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,839 Speaker 1: when you have James Lofton, Andre Reid and done Beebe, 1810 01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I probably would do the same thing. 1811 01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,880 Speaker 1: But I think they may be underestimated a little bit. 1812 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,040 Speaker 1: Pete Metz Lars are tight ends who had a big game, 1813 01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:35,600 Speaker 1: but overall it turned out to be a one that 1814 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:37,679 Speaker 1: you know, we had to come back to. I think 1815 01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,639 Speaker 1: from what I recollect halftime, you guys are up maybe 1816 01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:45,320 Speaker 1: two touched on drivals. Yes, and Steve, you're right, I mean, 1817 01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,160 Speaker 1: what kind of game was this for you? Because, as 1818 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,920 Speaker 1: you said, you took over for Montana in this game, 1819 01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,040 Speaker 1: and that was at a time when you just had 1820 01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,320 Speaker 1: to you had to be just begging to get on 1821 01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,519 Speaker 1: the field for any reason. Of course he was injured here. 1822 01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,920 Speaker 1: But to go out and have that kind of success 1823 01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,840 Speaker 1: after a game like that, did you like, hey, come on, man, 1824 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,800 Speaker 1: you gotta let me play. Uh. And not only that, 1825 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,559 Speaker 1: but just you know, that was an ongoing drama. And 1826 01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:12,280 Speaker 1: maybe in my own mind, but you know, for for sure, uh, 1827 01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:16,400 Speaker 1: and I you know, it was a great opportunity. Um 1828 01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:20,280 Speaker 1: uh we had a great team, uh, you know. And 1829 01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,160 Speaker 1: and and to have no punts and be the first 1830 01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:25,559 Speaker 1: one to ever do it probably made sense because the 1831 01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:28,760 Speaker 1: game was was tougher, tighter. I mean, to have it 1832 01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,920 Speaker 1: happened three times since then does make sense to me 1833 01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:35,640 Speaker 1: because the you know, the league's rules have changed. Uh, 1834 01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,160 Speaker 1: the game has become more college like in a sense, 1835 01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,519 Speaker 1: they don't have the players and the coaches can't be 1836 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,880 Speaker 1: together nearly as much. Um, and so yeah, that makes 1837 01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,599 Speaker 1: more sense to me today, but back in nineteen ninety 1838 01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,080 Speaker 1: two to have that, that's a that's an amazing uh 1839 01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:53,800 Speaker 1: uh moment. Uh. And it really goes to the offenses. 1840 01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:57,400 Speaker 1: It goes to how we really were two very good, 1841 01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:59,760 Speaker 1: good defenses as well as we moved out throughout the 1842 01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:01,640 Speaker 1: I think both teams went to the championship game, and 1843 01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:03,599 Speaker 1: I think it builds with the Super Bowl. We ended 1844 01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,519 Speaker 1: up getting beat by by the Cowboys in the championship game, 1845 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:11,000 Speaker 1: but uh, no question that both offenses were I don't know, 1846 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,599 Speaker 1: two of the three or four best in the league. Yeah, 1847 01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:15,200 Speaker 1: no question about it. And both of you guys on 1848 01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:17,479 Speaker 1: Jim you threw for four hundred and three yards, Steve 1849 01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:20,200 Speaker 1: you threw for four forty nine. You both had three touchdowns. 1850 01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,400 Speaker 1: You both threw, like I said, the one interception. Leave 1851 01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:24,120 Speaker 1: that to a special team's guy to point that out. 1852 01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,880 Speaker 1: But this was a game, and it's and in that 1853 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:30,160 Speaker 1: era and the forty nine ers getting back to Super 1854 01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,599 Speaker 1: Bowl form, and Steve you would indeed win a Super Bowl, 1855 01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:34,920 Speaker 1: and then in the next two or three years after that, 1856 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,960 Speaker 1: Jim you would go to this Super Bowl and you'd 1857 01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,000 Speaker 1: been to two, you go to two after this one. 1858 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:45,800 Speaker 1: Those two teams never met in a Super Bowl. And 1859 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,160 Speaker 1: if it would have been a game like that, you 1860 01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,960 Speaker 1: might have really re established, I mean, set a new 1861 01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,280 Speaker 1: standard for what a championship game might have looked like, 1862 01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:57,800 Speaker 1: because that seemed that day with no punch that so 1863 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,559 Speaker 1: you know, right you're headed. I know that's where you're headed. 1864 01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:04,639 Speaker 1: But we ended up losing the championship game to Dallas. 1865 01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,479 Speaker 1: Uh and uh that was the that was the Dallas 1866 01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,479 Speaker 1: is you know, that was when they were just coming on. 1867 01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,040 Speaker 1: And even Troy Aikman after the game said, we didn't 1868 01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,800 Speaker 1: expect to have this kind of mediorc rise. And so 1869 01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,479 Speaker 1: you know, I of all the games in my life 1870 01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,479 Speaker 1: that you had to remind me of, it's no one 1871 01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:21,120 Speaker 1: that I throw up in my mouth every time I 1872 01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,400 Speaker 1: think about it, you know, just the ninety two championship game. 1873 01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:25,880 Speaker 1: I blew it. I could have been to the Super 1874 01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,920 Speaker 1: Bowl with Jim and Jim I apologize, I you know, 1875 01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,360 Speaker 1: I just I screwed it up. Yeah, noah, we buy 1876 01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,880 Speaker 1: to one one right, that's right, based on this game, 1877 01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:39,880 Speaker 1: based on this game, right, right. I went to find 1878 01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,240 Speaker 1: out what I was gonna wear for this. The first 1879 01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,880 Speaker 1: thing I saw I should have brought either was a hoodie. 1880 01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:49,160 Speaker 1: They had Buffalo bills and they had using gamblers on 1881 01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,960 Speaker 1: this Ones were number twelve and me and you have 1882 01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:56,280 Speaker 1: been in two battles. One when we played the usflum 1883 01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,880 Speaker 1: against each other and then of course, uh the No 1884 01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,519 Speaker 1: Punt Game or two the most sunning football games you 1885 01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:05,719 Speaker 1: could ever watch, So those were those were both pretty cool. 1886 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,880 Speaker 1: I know every time we played it was nuts. Steve 1887 01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:12,160 Speaker 1: Tasker hosting Steve Young and also Jim Kelly, two guys 1888 01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,439 Speaker 1: who were the quarterbacks of the No Punt Game. That 1889 01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:16,479 Speaker 1: game is going to air. It's gonna be re aired 1890 01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:19,160 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo and Rochester and Rochester and w r 1891 01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:22,960 Speaker 1: OCTV and Rochester and w IVB TV here in Buffalo 1892 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,599 Speaker 1: Sunday at three o'clock. They're gonna re show that game. 1893 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:28,880 Speaker 1: You got to know, it's a classic game. When you 1894 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,360 Speaker 1: know twenty some odd years twenty eight years later, they 1895 01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,880 Speaker 1: want people still want to see that game happen. It's 1896 01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,840 Speaker 1: way distant in the past, but man oh man, it 1897 01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,000 Speaker 1: still holds water. It's gonna make you feel really good 1898 01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:45,519 Speaker 1: about your careers and about the teams you were on. Well, 1899 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:49,040 Speaker 1: I gotta say, Steve, one thing that people don't realize 1900 01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:50,800 Speaker 1: maybe I've forgotten and they're going to see it when 1901 01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:54,479 Speaker 1: they do the replay Mike coo for attempts to forty 1902 01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,400 Speaker 1: five yard field goal with no time left to tie 1903 01:40:57,439 --> 01:40:59,599 Speaker 1: it up. Yeah. I mean, so you know, I could 1904 01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,400 Speaker 1: have been, well, no punt game that goes into overtime. 1905 01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:03,920 Speaker 1: So I was really bummed that way. Don't get a 1906 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,120 Speaker 1: chance to get an overtime that day. Yeah, it was 1907 01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:08,400 Speaker 1: a It was a game that seesaw. The second half 1908 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:12,519 Speaker 1: of that game was a spectacular game. The Bills kind 1909 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,120 Speaker 1: of climbed back into it. You guys kind of asserted yourself. 1910 01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:16,760 Speaker 1: And I think one of the things that I like 1911 01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:20,720 Speaker 1: about it not for nothing Steve Young. It was an 1912 01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:26,439 Speaker 1: old Candlestick and that's that's pretty cool. Yeah, you know, 1913 01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:30,720 Speaker 1: Candlestick had its own strange ambiance. I mean, kind of 1914 01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:35,400 Speaker 1: like RFK Stadium older. The field was always kind of muggy, 1915 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, even on a nice day like this, it 1916 01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:40,000 Speaker 1: was kind of soggy and different. And the fans were 1917 01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:43,759 Speaker 1: super comfortable. I mean they've been going there for years 1918 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,080 Speaker 1: and it just had so many great games big games. 1919 01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,040 Speaker 1: Every time we played it felt like it was you know, 1920 01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,240 Speaker 1: playoffs or championship kind of games. And so this game, 1921 01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, going back to those moments at Candlestick Park, 1922 01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,639 Speaker 1: the fact that Candlesticks Park is no longer. I mean 1923 01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,200 Speaker 1: you drive by one on one where you to be, 1924 01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:03,960 Speaker 1: it's gone. And so to have those kind of reminiscences, 1925 01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:06,799 Speaker 1: it's tough that it's not there anymore, because it almost 1926 01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:10,280 Speaker 1: feels like, unless we didn't have these replays, you'd almost 1927 01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:13,519 Speaker 1: forget that it was there. And Jim, what do you 1928 01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:15,599 Speaker 1: what are some of the things you remember about this game? 1929 01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:17,800 Speaker 1: And we watched I know, Thurman had a tremendous game. 1930 01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:19,679 Speaker 1: It was a big part of the offense, the engine 1931 01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,040 Speaker 1: that ran that, and you were and you were calling 1932 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:23,920 Speaker 1: your own plays at this time, this was well into 1933 01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,519 Speaker 1: the days of the K gun, no huddle. What do 1934 01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,280 Speaker 1: you remember, if anything, about the details of this game. 1935 01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:34,240 Speaker 1: I remember when we went into the locker room and 1936 01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:38,120 Speaker 1: I just remember this that about Mark and you know 1937 01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:42,080 Speaker 1: Steve um Marv doesn't get mad very often, but he was. 1938 01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:46,000 Speaker 1: He raised his voice nor in halftime, and I knew 1939 01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:50,479 Speaker 1: from that point on that, especially on the defensive side, 1940 01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:52,320 Speaker 1: that we don't we have to play better in order 1941 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,519 Speaker 1: to be able to come back. And I knew we 1942 01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:57,679 Speaker 1: were just gonna be the typical offense we'd always work, 1943 01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,680 Speaker 1: but we needed both sides of the football stuff up 1944 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:04,400 Speaker 1: and make some plays. And never thought that we would 1945 01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:08,040 Speaker 1: go through a whole game and not even punt, So 1946 01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:11,240 Speaker 1: that was pretty amazing in itself. But we're gonna going 1947 01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,040 Speaker 1: in that their offense is pretty good. Whether it was 1948 01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,960 Speaker 1: Steve Young or whether it was Joe Montana, and I've 1949 01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,720 Speaker 1: had battle judge I said before was Steve and I 1950 01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,240 Speaker 1: knew what type of quarterback he was. You not only 1951 01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:25,040 Speaker 1: to throw the ball, but his legs were just like 1952 01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:28,160 Speaker 1: some of the guys that you see nowadays making big 1953 01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:32,320 Speaker 1: plays running. So we're just gonna have to keep firing away. 1954 01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:34,960 Speaker 1: And like I think, I can't remember who said that 1955 01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:37,960 Speaker 1: whoever happened the team with the ball last was going 1956 01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:40,360 Speaker 1: to win the game. Well, it wasn't quite like that, 1957 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:44,120 Speaker 1: because he brought up the Misfield Walden game mob, which 1958 01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:47,320 Speaker 1: would totally put us where we needed to be. But 1959 01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,920 Speaker 1: the thing is, I remember last home of class plays 1960 01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,640 Speaker 1: of the game, um not going through the uprights and 1961 01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:58,160 Speaker 1: illusion that one not just not a good feeling both 1962 01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:01,240 Speaker 1: of us. Yeah, tell you this, and Steve Young, you 1963 01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,599 Speaker 1: can take this as a as a sign of respect. 1964 01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,360 Speaker 1: I had great seats for this game, by the way, 1965 01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,559 Speaker 1: I was standing on the sidelines right next to Marv right, 1966 01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,280 Speaker 1: so I didn't actually get a chance to play at all. 1967 01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:15,080 Speaker 1: But I do remember this. We knelt down after the 1968 01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:17,120 Speaker 1: kick went wide. We had to kneel down at the 1969 01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:18,760 Speaker 1: end of the game. And I'm the guy that comes 1970 01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:23,519 Speaker 1: on as a safety for the kneel down and sticking 1971 01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:26,720 Speaker 1: my head in that huddle. I've never seen Jim Kelly, Kent, 1972 01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:30,720 Speaker 1: holl Thurman, Thomas. They were giddy with how excited they 1973 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:33,679 Speaker 1: were to have won that game because we knew how 1974 01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,240 Speaker 1: good the Niners were and if we could beat them 1975 01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:37,680 Speaker 1: on the road, we were going to be a really 1976 01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:39,840 Speaker 1: good football team as an early in the season game 1977 01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:43,040 Speaker 1: as well. And so it hats off to you guys, 1978 01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:45,559 Speaker 1: because we knew it was a big game for us 1979 01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:47,639 Speaker 1: to beat a team like you guys in your home building. 1980 01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:50,000 Speaker 1: And they were those even all those old grizzled Hall 1981 01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:55,080 Speaker 1: of famers were all giddy with excitement over that win. Well, 1982 01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean I and for good reason, both of us 1983 01:44:57,800 --> 01:44:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean we would both go on to the champ 1984 01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:02,040 Speaker 1: ground and then you guys obviously went to the Super Bowl. 1985 01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,519 Speaker 1: So you know, and I don't know that. I guess 1986 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,960 Speaker 1: we are before Uh and I guess more than anything 1987 01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:11,000 Speaker 1: if you, if you these are the kind of games 1988 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,719 Speaker 1: that you wished would have been in December or even 1989 01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,760 Speaker 1: in a playoff game. Uh and uh, too bad it 1990 01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,960 Speaker 1: didn't happen again. So playing Jim was always fireworks. As 1991 01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:23,439 Speaker 1: Jim said, I will say that, Uh, you know, when 1992 01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:26,200 Speaker 1: we did play the Houston Gamblers in La Express, Jim 1993 01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:28,840 Speaker 1: will tell you that you should go don't sleep on 1994 01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:32,240 Speaker 1: the USFL. We had good football. Gary Zimmerman was my 1995 01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:34,360 Speaker 1: offensive tackle. He's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 1996 01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:37,759 Speaker 1: Jim had a great team and the football was solid football. 1997 01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,240 Speaker 1: So if you get if this isn't enough to watch 1998 01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,679 Speaker 1: this game, going and dig up on YouTube, the old 1999 01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:45,960 Speaker 1: Gambler expressed, Jim Kelly Steve Young matchup, then you get 2000 01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:52,479 Speaker 1: a double double dip. Yeah, yeah, team ready to play off. 2001 01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:54,880 Speaker 1: When we played AFT there, I think they named it 2002 01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,439 Speaker 1: the greatest game that no one saw. That was like 2003 01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:00,240 Speaker 1: what the Dobbs and people were gaming. The Hall of 2004 01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,680 Speaker 1: Seam and I think you guys were beating us like 2005 01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,559 Speaker 1: thirty five thirteen or something like that would wind up 2006 01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:08,280 Speaker 1: coming back in the fourth quarter. But you know, I 2007 01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:14,240 Speaker 1: had those literally called the Masketeers, were very five foot nine, 2008 01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,400 Speaker 1: but they ran like a fourth, three oh of them. 2009 01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:21,160 Speaker 1: So I was pretty blessed to have throughout my career 2010 01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:24,400 Speaker 1: as well as you get Steve great players around me. 2011 01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean Buffalo of course, and you know two Hall 2012 01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,200 Speaker 1: of famers often and Andre Reid, but I had Ken 2013 01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:32,839 Speaker 1: Hall and from me who wind up being my center 2014 01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:36,479 Speaker 1: for every snap I had in Buffalo. He also was 2015 01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:40,840 Speaker 1: going to be my center when the Houston Gambler's merged 2016 01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:44,800 Speaker 1: with the New Jersey Generals. And that in itself with 2017 01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:49,160 Speaker 1: herschel Walker in my backfield owned by Donald Trump, oh 2018 01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,800 Speaker 1: my gosh, that was pretty well. Yeah, he hadn't tried 2019 01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:54,400 Speaker 1: to go to the fall. We still have a league. 2020 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,080 Speaker 1: So let me let me tell you something, you guys, 2021 01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:01,400 Speaker 1: that's enough. That's for another day. We sound like that 2022 01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:03,880 Speaker 1: coach call me about the fact that we only had 2023 01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:06,280 Speaker 1: a thousand people in the LA Coliseum and was it 2024 01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,880 Speaker 1: like to play in the silence because they're gonna play 2025 01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,120 Speaker 1: in front of no fans? This year, and so he 2026 01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:13,960 Speaker 1: actually called me and said, hey, so, what are the 2027 01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:18,000 Speaker 1: dynamics of having no one in the how's that going 2028 01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,600 Speaker 1: to feel? I said, look, you got to move the 2029 01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:23,800 Speaker 1: huddle back because people can hear what you're saying. You 2030 01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:26,640 Speaker 1: have to whisper. Oh my god, everyone's listening to the 2031 01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,719 Speaker 1: play call. Steve Taskarlar with Steve Young and Jim Kelly 2032 01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:32,000 Speaker 1: were reminiscing about how old we are as we go 2033 01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,479 Speaker 1: back to the USFL. Day's so fun to listen to 2034 01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,200 Speaker 1: you guys. Now, both of you went on to become 2035 01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:41,120 Speaker 1: have great careers before and after this this no punt game. 2036 01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,800 Speaker 1: You went onto the Hall of Fame. H Steve Young, 2037 01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,439 Speaker 1: he went on to win a Super Bowl. Jim, you 2038 01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:48,559 Speaker 1: did something that nobody else did, your quarterback to team 2039 01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:51,000 Speaker 1: before straight Super Bowls. You both went on to the 2040 01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,439 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And now you've got these foundations that 2041 01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:55,519 Speaker 1: you can Jim Kelly, Kelly for kids. You've been giving 2042 01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,160 Speaker 1: back to the Buffalo region for decades. Everybody here in 2043 01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:01,640 Speaker 1: Western New York knows that Steve Young, you're kind of 2044 01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:03,559 Speaker 1: doing the same thing even on a larger scale. You've 2045 01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:09,240 Speaker 1: teamed up with your former teammate Reggie. I'm Reggie um Um. 2046 01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:13,360 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, Jerry Rice in the eight to eighty Legends, Yeah, 2047 01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:15,439 Speaker 1: I do. I have heard. In fact, I told a 2048 01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:17,160 Speaker 1: story about him the other day, but I can't repeat it. 2049 01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:21,639 Speaker 1: So eight to eighty Legends zone and you're going into everything, 2050 01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:25,439 Speaker 1: You're going into every NFL city and helping kids to 2051 01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:28,960 Speaker 1: kind of level the playing field for for E games 2052 01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:32,000 Speaker 1: and it's amazing that not everybody can be a professional 2053 01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,479 Speaker 1: football player. We have We have the for a Young Foundation, 2054 01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,439 Speaker 1: which Jim we probably I think we started about the 2055 01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,360 Speaker 1: same time, and so we've been at pecking away at 2056 01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:41,920 Speaker 1: it for for decades, as you've mentioned, and you know, 2057 01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:45,160 Speaker 1: we're one of the top children's charities and charity navigator, 2058 01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:47,320 Speaker 1: and it really goes to a lot of the people 2059 01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:49,240 Speaker 1: that work for the for the Foundation, and it's a 2060 01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,519 Speaker 1: good it's a good group. And then underneath it, we 2061 01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:54,080 Speaker 1: do eight to eighty zones and that's uh kind of 2062 01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,519 Speaker 1: goes back to Jerry to me, you know, throwing touch 2063 01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,360 Speaker 1: outs to Jerry and we've done him a number of cities, 2064 01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,920 Speaker 1: and it really and those are technology centers. Inside of 2065 01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,400 Speaker 1: some are boys and girls clubs, some of them are 2066 01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,720 Speaker 1: kind of a charter school summer inside. You know, it's 2067 01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:12,200 Speaker 1: like wherever there is a need in an inner city 2068 01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:15,120 Speaker 1: where the level the playing field is not level, and 2069 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:17,240 Speaker 1: the idea is to go in and try to provide 2070 01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:22,040 Speaker 1: some technology and some hardware and some opportunity to kind 2071 01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:26,000 Speaker 1: of give kids that don't have the opportunity or equal 2072 01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:28,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to try to level that playing field and technology. 2073 01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,080 Speaker 1: And so we've kind of used our Silicon Valley roots 2074 01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:33,200 Speaker 1: to do that, and so eight to eighties zones we've 2075 01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:35,880 Speaker 1: been doing for quite a while. And I appreciate mentioned that. Steve. Yeah, 2076 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,479 Speaker 1: it's a fantastic idea. You and Jerry Rice as well. 2077 01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:40,760 Speaker 1: Jerry read the story I told was not what it 2078 01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:43,559 Speaker 1: sounded like. He was actually in a conversation with my mom. 2079 01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:47,320 Speaker 1: So now my Jerry Rice is my mom's second favorite 2080 01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,599 Speaker 1: football player next to me. So I'm I'm a he's 2081 01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:53,240 Speaker 1: a very close second, actually a little too close. So 2082 01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:55,840 Speaker 1: that was the story I told about it. So, and Jim, 2083 01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,519 Speaker 1: you've been in and around Buffalo obviously since since nineteen 2084 01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:01,960 Speaker 1: eighty six, you distributed over five million dollars more one 2085 01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:05,800 Speaker 1: hundred local charities, Cradle Beach Camp, Kids Escaping Drugs, of course, 2086 01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:08,920 Speaker 1: our friend Ilio de Poulo scholarship fund Hunters Hope of course, 2087 01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:14,160 Speaker 1: named after your son Hunter. Both of you guys are exemplary, 2088 01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:18,920 Speaker 1: exemplary examples of what professional athletes can do, not only 2089 01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:20,880 Speaker 1: on the field, but after your careers. I can't tell 2090 01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:22,360 Speaker 1: you how what an honor it is to have you 2091 01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,719 Speaker 1: guys on today. And I can't wait to see this game. 2092 01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:27,439 Speaker 1: I know I'll catch myself as the camera pans across 2093 01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:30,000 Speaker 1: the sidelines. I'll be standing next to Marv because it 2094 01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:33,760 Speaker 1: made me look tall. But I can't wait to see it. 2095 01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:37,160 Speaker 1: You guys, congratulations on and thanks for coming on today. 2096 01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:41,479 Speaker 1: You bet Jimbo love you guys, love it too. But 2097 01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,599 Speaker 1: we're all we're all in it together. And that's one 2098 01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:46,559 Speaker 1: great thing about the NFL, what it's done for my 2099 01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:48,760 Speaker 1: life is just so many great relationships in both of 2100 01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:51,519 Speaker 1: you through the years, and it's fun to just reminisce 2101 01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,280 Speaker 1: for a minute and recognize, you know, a really fun 2102 01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,920 Speaker 1: moment in time in this game, but beyond that, just 2103 01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:00,320 Speaker 1: great friendships and in relationships. Appreciate you guys in the 2104 01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,360 Speaker 1: best part by all of us, even Steve making a 2105 01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:05,519 Speaker 1: gift for sure kids out there and that's what we 2106 01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,160 Speaker 1: always do and that's what we always will do. So 2107 01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:11,760 Speaker 1: take care, DoD, bless you and uh chev y'all talk 2108 01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:13,479 Speaker 1: to you. Everybody, all right, take care of Jam. I'll 2109 01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:16,599 Speaker 1: see you in a while. Take care, Bud, Hey you guys, Steve, 2110 01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,120 Speaker 1: Steve Young, Jim Kelly, Hall of Fame Quarterbacks on to 2111 01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:21,920 Speaker 1: reminisce about the No Punt Game. It's gonna be aired 2112 01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:26,040 Speaker 1: on w r OCTV and Rochester and w IVB here 2113 01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:29,479 Speaker 1: in Buffalo at Sunday, three o'clock in the afternoon. That 2114 01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:32,320 Speaker 1: is presented by Connors and Ferriss that game, So tune 2115 01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:35,639 Speaker 1: in and see some good football from a long time ago. 2116 01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:38,160 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Eric Wood coming back right after the break. 2117 01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:40,800 Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health on 2118 01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:56,120 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One of Bills Live 2119 01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:58,400 Speaker 1: Deep Past along with Eric Wood. Like our thanks to 2120 01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:00,400 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly and Steve Young for coming up and spending 2121 01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:02,360 Speaker 1: a little time with us. And we've been going through 2122 01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:06,080 Speaker 1: some soundbites from Leslie Frazier. We had Maddie Glabon giving 2123 01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:08,160 Speaker 1: out her Maddie Awards. You can go back and listen 2124 01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:11,120 Speaker 1: to listen to any or all of the show on 2125 01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:14,120 Speaker 1: the podcast, on the Buffalo Bills app or at Buffalo 2126 01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:15,920 Speaker 1: bills dot com. You can go back and listen to 2127 01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:18,479 Speaker 1: any part of the show you want to. Uh. We're 2128 01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:21,200 Speaker 1: also I want to go back and get back into 2129 01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:24,320 Speaker 1: the fan mail bag because we're getting a ton of questions. 2130 01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:29,680 Speaker 1: Particularly I guess it's pretty predictable. I guess at this 2131 01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:32,000 Speaker 1: time of year, there's a lot of questions that fans 2132 01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:35,080 Speaker 1: have about what's coming down the pipe, Eric, and what 2133 01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:37,080 Speaker 1: we've seen, what we what we won't see, and what 2134 01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:40,720 Speaker 1: we haven't seen yet as in no preseason games from 2135 01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,960 Speaker 1: Tiffany on the In the mail bag, she says this, Eric, 2136 01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:47,439 Speaker 1: as one of the all time impactful leaders of the Bills, 2137 01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:50,880 Speaker 1: how would you use your platform to positively help move 2138 01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,599 Speaker 1: the team and the community forward through the social unrest 2139 01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:58,760 Speaker 1: that is currently dividing our country. What would you do? Eric? Yeah, 2140 01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,760 Speaker 1: if I was still a part of the team, what 2141 01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:04,720 Speaker 1: I would be doing is trying to reach out to 2142 01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:07,760 Speaker 1: my black teammates and see where they want me to 2143 01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:11,400 Speaker 1: assist them how, you know, I want to know how 2144 01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:14,040 Speaker 1: they feel like we could make a big impact in Buffalo. 2145 01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's through the education system. I 2146 01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:19,960 Speaker 1: don't know exactly where that is. I don't know if 2147 01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:26,560 Speaker 1: that's trying to improve police relations, inform policemen of concerns 2148 01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,760 Speaker 1: that black people have, and get a dialogue created. There's 2149 01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,880 Speaker 1: a number of different ways that these players can do it. Now. 2150 01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:35,200 Speaker 1: The issue we have right now is it's COVID times 2151 01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:38,720 Speaker 1: and the NFL is not in a bubble, and so 2152 01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:40,600 Speaker 1: one of the keys is is not a lot of 2153 01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:44,400 Speaker 1: interaction outside of the building. So where a lot of 2154 01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:48,559 Speaker 1: these guys are generally doing hospital visits, community events, those 2155 01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:50,479 Speaker 1: are in large gonna be canceled this year because you 2156 01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:53,960 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta stay healthy to play this season, and 2157 01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:59,599 Speaker 1: ultimately you don't want to infect the team and staff 2158 01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:02,880 Speaker 1: or whatever. Maybe as a US citizen, as a as 2159 01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:05,320 Speaker 1: a functioning member of society right now, that your role 2160 01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,000 Speaker 1: and so that it makes it a little tougher to 2161 01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:11,040 Speaker 1: navigate right now. Yeah, and certainly the problem is you 2162 01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:13,040 Speaker 1: don't want it to go away. If the pandemic goes 2163 01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,200 Speaker 1: away in six months or four months or whatever, you 2164 01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,120 Speaker 1: don't you want to make sure that this is fresh. 2165 01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,439 Speaker 1: On your money, you can go back out and begin that. 2166 01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:21,960 Speaker 1: And my advice I think if I was in the 2167 01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:24,360 Speaker 1: inside a locker room and thinking back to the way 2168 01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:27,160 Speaker 1: I was, do you can do whatever, you can do 2169 01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:30,240 Speaker 1: it alone, do it do something, but it's better to 2170 01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:32,720 Speaker 1: do it together. And like you said, you'd get you 2171 01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:35,280 Speaker 1: with your teammates, say what can we do together? And 2172 01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,680 Speaker 1: certainly it's not what we could do normally without a 2173 01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:40,520 Speaker 1: pandemic around it surrounding us. But we can do something. 2174 01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:47,040 Speaker 1: We can collaborate on social media, we can whatever whatever 2175 01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:49,600 Speaker 1: we can think of. And I'm sure these guys and 2176 01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,560 Speaker 1: their lights are on there's and they've been exposed to 2177 01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,280 Speaker 1: as much as this as we have. They probably got 2178 01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:57,320 Speaker 1: great ideas about how to interact with the community on 2179 01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:00,240 Speaker 1: whatever social media platform they can, or even out and 2180 01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,720 Speaker 1: about in whatever socially distanced way they can. But certainly 2181 01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,800 Speaker 1: they all these efforts are hampered by the pandemic. And 2182 01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:10,080 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the most frustrating aspects of 2183 01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:12,960 Speaker 1: the pandemic. Now, when you've got something you really feel 2184 01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:14,560 Speaker 1: like you need to go out and be active about 2185 01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:20,640 Speaker 1: and bring some awareness to you can't because of the virus, 2186 01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,360 Speaker 1: And that I think is the most frustrating part of 2187 01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,880 Speaker 1: all of it. And well, we'll see though hopefully we'll 2188 01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:28,480 Speaker 1: be on the back side of this and we can 2189 01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:32,800 Speaker 1: continue to think about it going forward. Last one from 2190 01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:36,680 Speaker 1: this mailbag sheet, Let's go this from Jeff. If I'm 2191 01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:39,839 Speaker 1: coach McDermott, I use the current state of pro sports 2192 01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:42,680 Speaker 1: and politics in America to bring my team closer together 2193 01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:45,040 Speaker 1: so they can be loyal to each other through the 2194 01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:49,240 Speaker 1: toughest environments imaginable. How does he accomplish that? And that's 2195 01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,480 Speaker 1: a good that's a good question because that's exactly the 2196 01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:54,800 Speaker 1: way he's thinking. I would think, Eric, Yeah, absolutely, And 2197 01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:59,120 Speaker 1: even before any issues arose in twenty seventeen with the 2198 01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:03,160 Speaker 1: kneeling or this so Rose, Sean McDermott's goal from the 2199 01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:05,280 Speaker 1: second he walked in the building was to get us 2200 01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:09,080 Speaker 1: all closer. So you do that by learning about your teammates. 2201 01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:10,800 Speaker 1: He would have guys get up in the front of 2202 01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:14,400 Speaker 1: the room and tell their story, and guys that we're 2203 01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:16,800 Speaker 1: in maybe a different position group than me, Guys that 2204 01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't interact with a whole lot on a day 2205 01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:20,400 Speaker 1: to day basis. All of a sudden, I knew a 2206 01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:22,720 Speaker 1: whole lot about them. I knew how to approach them 2207 01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,640 Speaker 1: in the hallway and say, hey, how's your girlfriend doing, 2208 01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:28,080 Speaker 1: your wife doing? You know, whatever it may be. Hey, 2209 01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:30,040 Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for you now, I 2210 01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:32,520 Speaker 1: know your story, I know what you overcame. Man. Now 2211 01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:34,600 Speaker 1: I have so much more respect for you. And now 2212 01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:39,000 Speaker 1: on Sundays we go out and we play tighter, tighter 2213 01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:42,760 Speaker 1: as a team. We all want to perform well because 2214 01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:45,280 Speaker 1: of our respect for each other, respect for the coaches. 2215 01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:47,680 Speaker 1: And I think he's done that since day one, and 2216 01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:50,920 Speaker 1: I truly can't imagine he would do anything different right now, 2217 01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,960 Speaker 1: and I know through the off season they were even 2218 01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,480 Speaker 1: doing a number of things through their zoom calls to 2219 01:56:56,600 --> 01:57:00,880 Speaker 1: address things that were going on out in the community. 2220 01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:04,360 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and you gotta stay in tune with 2221 01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:06,280 Speaker 1: everybody in the locker room. And that's what a coach 2222 01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:07,920 Speaker 1: doesn't They say. You know, they've got their hand on 2223 01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:10,520 Speaker 1: their finger on the pulse of the team, and you 2224 01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:13,320 Speaker 1: don't get that without being a guy. And he said it, 2225 01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:15,440 Speaker 1: he guess the door is always open. He not only 2226 01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:18,560 Speaker 1: does is the coach's door always open. He's always out 2227 01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:20,600 Speaker 1: of his door going out and talking to his players. 2228 01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:23,919 Speaker 1: I know some of the best college coaches I've been around, 2229 01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:25,840 Speaker 1: and I know this too, Jim Trussell when he was 2230 01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:27,920 Speaker 1: at Ohio State, and maybe the new guy does this too, 2231 01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:30,440 Speaker 1: and or the guys who've been there in Ohio States 2232 01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:34,760 Speaker 1: since Jim Trussell. His office was right beside the locker room. 2233 01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean the office with all the game balls and 2234 01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:43,320 Speaker 1: the paraphernalia and the huge office that was all decked out. 2235 01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:46,920 Speaker 1: It was literally twenty five feet from the everyday locker 2236 01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:49,720 Speaker 1: room of the players with the door open. That's kind 2237 01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:52,080 Speaker 1: of the atmosphere you need as a leader. You gotta have. 2238 01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:54,920 Speaker 1: You got to be in the locker room. You gotta 2239 01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:57,440 Speaker 1: know what they're talking about, know who talks to who, 2240 01:57:57,520 --> 01:57:59,360 Speaker 1: You know why they talk to each other, no, why 2241 01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:01,960 Speaker 1: these guys like each other, and why some guys are 2242 01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:05,160 Speaker 1: hard to get along with. That is what a coach 2243 01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:07,000 Speaker 1: does to have his finger on the pulse of his 2244 01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:14,720 Speaker 1: football team. And Sean McDermott he has made deliberate, calculated 2245 01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:19,000 Speaker 1: efforts towards making sure his players not only feel that 2246 01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:20,800 Speaker 1: from him, but feel it from each other. And I 2247 01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:24,040 Speaker 1: think that's one of the things why this roster eric 2248 01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:27,480 Speaker 1: always under Sean McDermott, has been a little better than 2249 01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:31,920 Speaker 1: the some of its parts. Oh absolutely, And you look 2250 01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:35,280 Speaker 1: at our twenty seventeen team that broke the playoff drought. 2251 01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:37,560 Speaker 1: That wasn't the most talented Bill's team I played on 2252 01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:40,600 Speaker 1: throughout my career, but we played together. We were able 2253 01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:43,320 Speaker 1: to bounce back from adversity, bounce back from the worst 2254 01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:47,560 Speaker 1: three games stretch in Bill's history, from a point from 2255 01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:50,520 Speaker 1: a point differential standpoint, which I actually got to inform 2256 01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:53,160 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott of on my podcast when he came on. 2257 01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:57,160 Speaker 1: But we were able to rebound from that because of 2258 01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:00,880 Speaker 1: how tight we were as a team in our relationship 2259 01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,200 Speaker 1: with coach McDermott. You know, he didn't come in yelling 2260 01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:05,600 Speaker 1: and screaming at us through that three game stretch. Now, 2261 01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:09,280 Speaker 1: it also wasn't sunshine and rainbows. You know, we had 2262 01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:12,000 Speaker 1: a mutual respect with him. And I think I think 2263 01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:14,160 Speaker 1: anytime you're you're a coach of an NFL team, and 2264 01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:16,680 Speaker 1: you know this from experienced dou Steve, you have a 2265 01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:20,920 Speaker 1: group of grown men, and so you need to treat 2266 01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:24,040 Speaker 1: them with respect. And he definitely does that. He does 2267 01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:27,920 Speaker 1: a phenomenal job of being intentional with names of family 2268 01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:30,440 Speaker 1: members so he can find some common grounds so that 2269 01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:33,440 Speaker 1: when he asks you about your wife or your kids 2270 01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:36,400 Speaker 1: by their first names, you think, Wow, I don't care 2271 01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:38,520 Speaker 1: if he just looked up some notes before we had 2272 01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:41,640 Speaker 1: a conversation. He's intentional about the way he interacts with 2273 01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:44,000 Speaker 1: the players, and they respond so well because of it. 2274 01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:48,240 Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's it's comforting to know. I 2275 01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:50,920 Speaker 1: think in a year where there's a pandemic and continuity's 2276 01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:53,000 Speaker 1: going to be so good for some teams who have 2277 01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:56,000 Speaker 1: it going forward. The Bills are in that exact spot 2278 01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:58,360 Speaker 1: where you would like them to be. Not only is 2279 01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,520 Speaker 1: their head coach back and has been there for three years, 2280 02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:02,640 Speaker 1: both coordinators have been there for three years. You got 2281 02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:06,040 Speaker 1: position coaches, you got staff members. They've got a program, 2282 02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:08,600 Speaker 1: an offense in place, a defensive philosophy in place. They've 2283 02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:14,800 Speaker 1: got players who are veteran foundational players now that have 2284 02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:19,440 Speaker 1: grown up only with Sean McDermott as their NFL head coach. 2285 02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:23,360 Speaker 1: That means something, I think, don't you agree, Eric? If 2286 02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:25,200 Speaker 1: you if you're a guy, then and this is the 2287 02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:28,040 Speaker 1: only way you know and you're seeing success under this way, 2288 02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:32,000 Speaker 1: it kind of gets chiseled into you like stone, right, 2289 02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean, because when it works and it's the first 2290 02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:36,600 Speaker 1: and only place you've been and it seems so good, 2291 02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:39,360 Speaker 1: and the locker room is so together. Don't you believe 2292 02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:42,600 Speaker 1: that if any of these twenty twenty Buffalo Bills come 2293 02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:44,560 Speaker 1: out of this and be going to the coaching realms 2294 02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,360 Speaker 1: or the coaching ranks, aren't they going to be exact 2295 02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:50,240 Speaker 1: trying to be exactly like Sean McDermott run their program 2296 02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:53,160 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, And I don't know why you wouldn't 2297 02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:56,360 Speaker 1: in today's society. The way he treats players is exactly 2298 02:00:56,400 --> 02:01:00,680 Speaker 1: the way you should treat guys nowadays. And goner a 2299 02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:03,800 Speaker 1: little bit of the days of the Paul Bear Bryant. 2300 02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, there's less and less Bill Belichick's around the NFL, 2301 02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:12,360 Speaker 1: and when guys leave Bill Belichick's tree coaching tree, you 2302 02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,640 Speaker 1: see that they don't necessarily have a lot of success 2303 02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:18,760 Speaker 1: on their own because they're trying to implement the put 2304 02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:21,920 Speaker 1: the thumb on you. You know, you act a certain way, 2305 02:01:22,160 --> 02:01:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to respect that, you know, fit in 2306 02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:28,600 Speaker 1: line or get out like that doesn't work. Nowadays, people, 2307 02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:31,120 Speaker 1: young young men have much more of a voice, and 2308 02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott does just a phenomenal job of navigating all 2309 02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:37,480 Speaker 1: of that and he sticks to his values, he sticks 2310 02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:40,880 Speaker 1: to his process, his championship caliber, whatever it may be. 2311 02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:42,720 Speaker 1: He just sticks to a day in a day out, 2312 02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:45,720 Speaker 1: and it gets implemented in you and he sees results 2313 02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:47,120 Speaker 1: because of it. Yeah, and it's not to say that 2314 02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:49,600 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick hasn't been successful doing it the way he's 2315 02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:53,480 Speaker 1: done it, because he's been wildly successful. But he has 2316 02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:57,640 Speaker 1: run a number of people through that organization and if 2317 02:01:57,680 --> 02:02:00,000 Speaker 1: you don't have the right mindset, and players have come 2318 02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:01,760 Speaker 1: out of there and saying, listen, this ain't for everybody, 2319 02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:05,200 Speaker 1: and he finds out if it's for you, if you 2320 02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:08,440 Speaker 1: can hang in there, you can stay. But now that 2321 02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:11,160 Speaker 1: they've had the success that they've had and he's intrenched there, 2322 02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:13,280 Speaker 1: he gets to make those kind of calls and he 2323 02:02:13,280 --> 02:02:15,320 Speaker 1: doesn't ever have to go outside the lines of his 2324 02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:18,640 Speaker 1: own program. And you see so many young head coaches 2325 02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:20,960 Speaker 1: who maybe struggle for a year and they say, well, 2326 02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:23,560 Speaker 1: if I had this one more player, you know, well, 2327 02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:25,720 Speaker 1: let's get this guy. He doesn't really fit, but he's 2328 02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:27,400 Speaker 1: a kind of good player, and you know, he might 2329 02:02:27,440 --> 02:02:29,720 Speaker 1: help us put a shit over the you know, they 2330 02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:32,000 Speaker 1: kind of deviate from what they believe to be true, 2331 02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:34,360 Speaker 1: and they do it mostly, you know, to kind of 2332 02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:36,000 Speaker 1: save their job if they think they got to have 2333 02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:38,440 Speaker 1: some quick success. They don't get they don't know if 2334 02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:42,080 Speaker 1: they've got quite this support of their ownership, and so 2335 02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:43,960 Speaker 1: you see him kind of deviate from it and it 2336 02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:45,800 Speaker 1: never works out for them. And now a guy like 2337 02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:49,960 Speaker 1: Belichick and now Sean McDermott, Mike Tomlin, John Harball, the 2338 02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:52,320 Speaker 1: guys around the league who've been around for quite a while. 2339 02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:56,160 Speaker 1: Those guys probably longer than Sean McDermott, even they don't 2340 02:02:56,200 --> 02:02:59,440 Speaker 1: have to deviate from their plan because they have had 2341 02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:04,080 Speaker 1: success and the players understand to a greater degree. I 2342 02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:07,840 Speaker 1: think that they've got to fit in. Yeah, definitely. And 2343 02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:11,120 Speaker 1: when I made those comments about Belichick, I firmly believe 2344 02:03:11,200 --> 02:03:13,320 Speaker 1: he's the greatest head coach of all time. I mean, 2345 02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:15,760 Speaker 1: I played against him. I know how tough it was 2346 02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:19,000 Speaker 1: to always prepare for his defenses, his offenses. His teams 2347 02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:21,760 Speaker 1: are so sound, they don't beat themselves. What better compliment 2348 02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:24,360 Speaker 1: could you give a head coach than their team is 2349 02:03:24,760 --> 02:03:28,600 Speaker 1: always well coached, always makes it hard on the opposing 2350 02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:30,840 Speaker 1: team as far as the scheme goes, and then they 2351 02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:34,480 Speaker 1: don't beat themselves. That's that's great coaching, right. But it 2352 02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:38,960 Speaker 1: took him, you know, he had a failed coaching job 2353 02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:42,520 Speaker 1: before the New England Patriots. He learned, he learned what 2354 02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:45,240 Speaker 1: he wanted to do. He he's becoming. And to me, 2355 02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:49,080 Speaker 1: this has been my opinion of coaches throughout my entire 2356 02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:53,520 Speaker 1: playing career. Just be true to who you are. Be yourself, 2357 02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:56,200 Speaker 1: don't be phony. Just be yourself and guys will respect 2358 02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:58,400 Speaker 1: to you. If that's being a players coach and high 2359 02:03:58,440 --> 02:04:01,440 Speaker 1: five and the fist bump like some coaches do, now 2360 02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:05,440 Speaker 1: that's fine. If it's you know, Doug Moron, maybe it 2361 02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:06,880 Speaker 1: is a good example of a guy who was a 2362 02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:08,960 Speaker 1: little bit tougher on the players. But just be true 2363 02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:11,320 Speaker 1: to yourself. It be that same person every day and 2364 02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:13,360 Speaker 1: guys will respect you. Yeah, you hear that so much. 2365 02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:15,960 Speaker 1: Be the same person every day and it's it seems 2366 02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:18,120 Speaker 1: to have served Sean McDermott. Well, we got one more 2367 02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:19,600 Speaker 1: thing we want to do before we go to the break, 2368 02:04:19,600 --> 02:04:20,880 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you're ready for it. I 2369 02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:22,600 Speaker 1: don't know if Jay sent you these or not. We're 2370 02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:25,760 Speaker 1: gonna do some NFL true false. Are you ready? You 2371 02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:28,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean when I say NFL true false, 2372 02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Yes all right, NFL. True false. Brought to you by 2373 02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:35,000 Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy, Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and Cheesey NFL. 2374 02:04:35,080 --> 02:04:37,920 Speaker 1: True false. Number one Eric woodstef task, are you ready? 2375 02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:44,720 Speaker 1: League wide attendance policy is absolutely fair? True or false false. 2376 02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, I heard Sean mcdermotts say it the other day. 2377 02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:51,000 Speaker 1: It's it's tough right now to say some fans are 2378 02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:53,640 Speaker 1: gonna have some stadiums are gonna have fans in the stands. 2379 02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:56,080 Speaker 1: That creates a home field advantage that others will not. 2380 02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:59,400 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it is fair. Maybe the opposite would be, 2381 02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:01,080 Speaker 1: you know the bill there used to playing in front 2382 02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:03,520 Speaker 1: of no fans, and when an opposing team comes in 2383 02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:07,160 Speaker 1: that hasn't done it yet, maybe it'll be different from them, 2384 02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:08,720 Speaker 1: maybe to be tough for them. But I think false 2385 02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:12,680 Speaker 1: here I would say fair or not. It's as fair 2386 02:05:12,720 --> 02:05:16,360 Speaker 1: as it has always been. Some teams have great home 2387 02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:19,000 Speaker 1: field advantages. Their stadiums are set up for Seattle has 2388 02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:22,000 Speaker 1: built here. They built their stadium and expressly to focus 2389 02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:24,839 Speaker 1: the sound back down onto the field. You've got dome stadiums. 2390 02:05:24,840 --> 02:05:27,960 Speaker 1: You've got stadiums in Dallas that are ninety thousand. You've 2391 02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:31,200 Speaker 1: got some in Jacksonville where they actually had to put 2392 02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:33,840 Speaker 1: tarps over the set seats because they couldn't sell the seats. 2393 02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:36,400 Speaker 1: So it's as fair as it's always been. Until they 2394 02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:38,280 Speaker 1: get to a point where they can say you can 2395 02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:42,640 Speaker 1: have you know, fifty thousand people at the game and 2396 02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:45,480 Speaker 1: that's it in any way, shape or form, then it's 2397 02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:48,680 Speaker 1: going to be fair. Until then, every stadium is different, 2398 02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:51,760 Speaker 1: it's set up different, it sounds different, the crowds are different, 2399 02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:56,800 Speaker 1: and so it's never been fair. So to say that 2400 02:05:56,800 --> 02:06:00,800 Speaker 1: it's not fair now is redundant because it's never been 2401 02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:04,520 Speaker 1: that fair. Buffalo has a football only stadium that seats 2402 02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:07,800 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand. It's an advantage, no question about it. 2403 02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:10,880 Speaker 1: This last three years, the San Diego Chargers have had 2404 02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:14,200 Speaker 1: a twenty five thousand seat stadium that was full of 2405 02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:18,240 Speaker 1: their opponent's fans. That's Does that seem fair to that? No, 2406 02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's not fair to those players either. So 2407 02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:23,520 Speaker 1: it's never been fair. So it's hard for me to 2408 02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:26,880 Speaker 1: get my mind around saying we should change it. I'll 2409 02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:29,360 Speaker 1: make it fair now, I get it. It's a big 2410 02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:32,879 Speaker 1: disadvantage for teams like Buffalo, like for Kansas City, Denver, Seattle. 2411 02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:36,760 Speaker 1: But it's been unfair in their in their favor. And 2412 02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:38,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this too. I do think a lot 2413 02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:40,440 Speaker 1: of teams are overlooking the fact that it's going to 2414 02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:43,680 Speaker 1: be way easier to play on the road this year 2415 02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:45,760 Speaker 1: than it ever has been in the NFL, and that 2416 02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:48,720 Speaker 1: may change things as well. So I'm gonna say, yeah, 2417 02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:51,560 Speaker 1: since it hasn't been fair before, it's the same fairness 2418 02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:54,200 Speaker 1: as it's always been. That's mine. So I would say, no, 2419 02:06:54,280 --> 02:06:58,040 Speaker 1: it's not fair, that's true. It's a false statement. The 2420 02:06:58,080 --> 02:07:01,280 Speaker 1: League White Attendants politicy is absolute fair. It's not. So 2421 02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:04,920 Speaker 1: it's false. But it's never been fair because never. No 2422 02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:10,760 Speaker 1: stadium's exactly alike, Okay, NFL true false. Number two, no fan. Now, 2423 02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard the kickers say this, 2424 02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:15,840 Speaker 1: but here's it is League wy No fans will have 2425 02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:19,600 Speaker 1: a major impact on the kicking game. In twenty twenty, 2426 02:07:19,640 --> 02:07:21,280 Speaker 1: there was a kicker and I can't remember the team 2427 02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:23,120 Speaker 1: he was from, he said, when fans are in the 2428 02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:26,600 Speaker 1: stands Robbie Gold, he said, it muffles the wind whipping 2429 02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:31,680 Speaker 1: around the stadium. When there's bodies in the seats. Yeah, 2430 02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going I say, no, No, fans are not 2431 02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:37,720 Speaker 1: going to have a major impact on the kicking game 2432 02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:43,040 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. I think he's I think he's fabricating it. Well, 2433 02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:45,720 Speaker 1: I'll go opposite. I'll say true kickers are such head 2434 02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:49,760 Speaker 1: cases that yes, probably best with them because you know, 2435 02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:52,040 Speaker 1: for the longest time they've done all their vie. And 2436 02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm making references to Stephen Houshkin is visualization exercise, of 2437 02:07:56,080 --> 02:07:59,400 Speaker 1: which I love. I'm a huge proponent of visualization exercises 2438 02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:03,800 Speaker 1: for athletes people in general. But they've envisioned. Now they're 2439 02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:07,360 Speaker 1: gonna have to envision a different uh you know, visual 2440 02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:11,400 Speaker 1: on their head of no fans, and I'm sure the 2441 02:08:11,480 --> 02:08:14,880 Speaker 1: kickers will be blaming it. Yeah, you're right, it will 2442 02:08:14,920 --> 02:08:19,240 Speaker 1: be different for that fact, but only mentally. I don't 2443 02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:20,760 Speaker 1: think it's gonna make a difference with the wind. I 2444 02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:23,440 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna make a difference. I think it'll 2445 02:08:23,440 --> 02:08:28,520 Speaker 1: be even better for the road visiting teams, m the punts. Yeah, no, 2446 02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:31,440 Speaker 1: I say absolutely not. I think that's false. That's such 2447 02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:34,800 Speaker 1: a kicker, that's such a kickers analysis right to say 2448 02:08:34,840 --> 02:08:38,360 Speaker 1: that the fans are going to affect the wind. That is, 2449 02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:41,160 Speaker 1: only the kickers are thinking that. I'm totally with you 2450 02:08:41,160 --> 02:08:43,040 Speaker 1: on now one, all right, last NFL true false hit 2451 02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:45,640 Speaker 1: here It is the NFL cannot afford a pause in 2452 02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:49,200 Speaker 1: their season due to Corona Violis virus, like the NFL 2453 02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:52,520 Speaker 1: and the NHL and the NBA. Head the NFL cannot 2454 02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:56,400 Speaker 1: afford to pause in their season like the NBA and NHL. 2455 02:08:56,840 --> 02:09:01,120 Speaker 1: True or false it, I'll say false. It depends on 2456 02:09:01,160 --> 02:09:04,320 Speaker 1: the time. But you know, with this pandemic, we don't 2457 02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:06,240 Speaker 1: know how the season is going to play out. If 2458 02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:09,880 Speaker 1: it requires a couple week pause, if it requires a 2459 02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:12,520 Speaker 1: pause for one organization, I think I think to be 2460 02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:15,160 Speaker 1: realistic and say we're gonna definitely have a season with 2461 02:09:15,240 --> 02:09:17,720 Speaker 1: playoffs in a super Bowl, you have to be flexible 2462 02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:20,320 Speaker 1: to the opportunity of it. Now, we've also heard that 2463 02:09:20,360 --> 02:09:24,200 Speaker 1: the NFL has reserved Tampa Stadium for the three weekends 2464 02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:27,800 Speaker 1: after the scheduled Super Bowl, so they could pause it 2465 02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:29,960 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks and still have the available 2466 02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:34,360 Speaker 1: stadium in that city in Tampa to run the super 2467 02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:38,160 Speaker 1: Bowl in. But I think can't afford a pause in 2468 02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:42,200 Speaker 1: their season. I think they probably could get it done. 2469 02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:44,480 Speaker 1: I think they could probably do it. I'm not saying 2470 02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:46,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to they're gonna pause for three months. 2471 02:09:46,680 --> 02:09:49,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that can happen. But a pause maybe 2472 02:09:49,640 --> 02:09:52,360 Speaker 1: maybe for a week, maybe for a bye week, maybe 2473 02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:54,440 Speaker 1: for even two weeks, maybe a two week quarantine for 2474 02:09:54,480 --> 02:09:57,320 Speaker 1: the entire league, and then pick it up again. I 2475 02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:59,560 Speaker 1: think they could do that in some way, shape or form. Now, 2476 02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:02,200 Speaker 1: the schedule would be a nightmare, and the tie breakers 2477 02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:06,960 Speaker 1: would become a nightmare, but he would nobody cares. Just 2478 02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:08,640 Speaker 1: take the two weeks off and come back and play 2479 02:10:08,720 --> 02:10:10,960 Speaker 1: and we'll figure it out at the end. Right, So 2480 02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:13,360 Speaker 1: I think that's the Just win your games and you 2481 02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:16,320 Speaker 1: got a chance. There'll be seven teams in each conference 2482 02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:18,400 Speaker 1: going to the playoffs this year. I think that makes 2483 02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:22,480 Speaker 1: for some problems solved. And I think, yeah, they could 2484 02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:26,320 Speaker 1: afford to have a short pause, a short break, but 2485 02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:28,280 Speaker 1: not a two or three month break. So I'm gonna 2486 02:10:28,280 --> 02:10:30,160 Speaker 1: say false to that. I think they could afford to 2487 02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:32,880 Speaker 1: do it for a week or two. Heck yeah, it would. 2488 02:10:32,920 --> 02:10:35,640 Speaker 1: It would probably do everybody's bodies a little bit better 2489 02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:39,920 Speaker 1: from a rundown standpoint, and all that as well. Exactly, 2490 02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:42,440 Speaker 1: all right, that's NFL True false. Brought to you by 2491 02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:45,280 Speaker 1: Yancy's Fancy New York's Artist and Che's Eric Woods, Steve 2492 02:10:45,280 --> 02:10:49,120 Speaker 1: Tasker coming back after the break. Buffalo Bills Radio broadcasting 2493 02:10:49,120 --> 02:10:52,560 Speaker 1: from the Senecas Studios. Nothing else comes close. This is 2494 02:10:52,600 --> 02:11:08,920 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. What we Learned brought to you by Skyworks, 2495 02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:12,120 Speaker 1: the official construction rental company of the Buffalo Bills. We 2496 02:11:12,160 --> 02:11:14,440 Speaker 1: had a lot going on. Hard to choose what to 2497 02:11:14,480 --> 02:11:17,480 Speaker 1: tell you about what we learned today, but we had 2498 02:11:18,040 --> 02:11:20,360 Speaker 1: Mattie glab on. She came on, gave his her Mattie 2499 02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:23,320 Speaker 1: Awards for training camp. We had soundbites from Leslie Frazier 2500 02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:26,080 Speaker 1: on how he was keeping his team and his guys 2501 02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:28,640 Speaker 1: focused with all that's going on around them in the 2502 02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:31,560 Speaker 1: society and keeping them focused on getting better. We took 2503 02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:33,880 Speaker 1: a ton of questions from you our fans on our 2504 02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:36,400 Speaker 1: mail bag. We also had Steve Young, Hall of Fame 2505 02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:39,160 Speaker 1: quarterback along with Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly on 2506 02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:41,760 Speaker 1: to talk about the No Punt Game that is being 2507 02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:46,160 Speaker 1: aired on w ROCTV in Rochester and w IVB TV 2508 02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:48,640 Speaker 1: in Buffalo Sunday at three pm. You can catch that 2509 02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:51,000 Speaker 1: that's presented by Connors and Ferris. If you want to 2510 02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:53,440 Speaker 1: go back and listen to any of that stuff, especially you, 2511 02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:55,600 Speaker 1: Eric would, you can do it on the Bills app, 2512 02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:59,640 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com, Spotify, Google Play, Apple podcast, and 2513 02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:03,240 Speaker 1: parts the show you can catch on Bill's YouTube as well. Eric, 2514 02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:05,080 Speaker 1: great show today. We had a lot going on, a 2515 02:12:05,120 --> 02:12:07,800 Speaker 1: lot of fun talking about everything going on, had a 2516 02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:12,560 Speaker 1: nice conversation about Sean McDermot his philosophy about coaching. A 2517 02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:14,720 Speaker 1: lot to be optimistic about. And we're getting close to 2518 02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:19,240 Speaker 1: the to the really kickoff of the twenty twenty NFL season. Yeah, 2519 02:12:19,320 --> 02:12:22,360 Speaker 1: for sure, And with the lack of media coverage around 2520 02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:25,480 Speaker 1: these training camps right now and the no preseason games, 2521 02:12:25,520 --> 02:12:28,120 Speaker 1: it was great getting that insight for Maddie who's had 2522 02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:33,840 Speaker 1: as much access to practices as anybody has, so for 2523 02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:36,040 Speaker 1: her to be able to give up some insight, and 2524 02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, to the camp surprise of Isaiah McKenzie. You know, 2525 02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:43,320 Speaker 1: for me, that's something I didn't know coming into today, 2526 02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:47,080 Speaker 1: and and then for me coming on the show. I'm 2527 02:12:47,120 --> 02:12:49,440 Speaker 1: not in Buffalo right now, I'm not at practice, But 2528 02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:53,160 Speaker 1: where I can provide some perspective is knowing how Sean 2529 02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:57,960 Speaker 1: McDermott navigates these situations we're living in right now with 2530 02:12:58,120 --> 02:13:03,480 Speaker 1: the the Ray Injustice, how he's dealing with the coronavirus 2531 02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:06,560 Speaker 1: and all that's going on is truly he's using this 2532 02:13:06,640 --> 02:13:08,760 Speaker 1: time to unify the team. And I can guarantee you 2533 02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:12,520 Speaker 1: that the Bills also signed a cornerback today, Brian Allen. 2534 02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:14,720 Speaker 1: He's a third year player out of Utah. He's six three, 2535 02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:16,880 Speaker 1: two fifteen. He's a big corner and he's been with 2536 02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:19,120 Speaker 1: the Seahawks last year on their practice squad. The two 2537 02:13:19,160 --> 02:13:21,080 Speaker 1: years before that, he was on and off the Steelers 2538 02:13:21,320 --> 02:13:23,680 Speaker 1: practice squad and also played in sixteen games over the 2539 02:13:23,680 --> 02:13:26,600 Speaker 1: course of those two years for the Steeler. Steve Tasker, 2540 02:13:26,680 --> 02:13:29,200 Speaker 1: Eric Wood, thanks so much for joining us everybody. I 2541 02:13:29,200 --> 02:13:31,400 Speaker 1: also want to say a special thank you to Jay Harris, 2542 02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:34,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Colton, At, Kelly Rude, Thomas Honder. This has been 2543 02:13:34,240 --> 02:13:36,760 Speaker 1: an incredible week here on One Bills Live. And our 2544 02:13:36,800 --> 02:13:39,360 Speaker 1: boy Chris Brown's going to be back with us on Monday. 2545 02:13:40,240 --> 02:13:44,040 Speaker 1: Good to have him back as well. Steve Tasker, Eric Wood, 2546 02:13:44,040 --> 02:13:46,600 Speaker 1: One Bills Live, Thanks so much for joining us everybody. 2547 02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:48,920 Speaker 1: It's been a great day. Go back listen to the 2548 02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:52,960 Speaker 1: show on Spotify or Google, Google Play, or the Buffalo 2549 02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:56,680 Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. 2550 02:13:56,720 --> 02:14:01,800 Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, everybody. This has been Buffalo Bills Radio. 2551 02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:02,920 Speaker 1: We do