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Speaker 1: We're going to pick our DFS lineup for Sunday's games here.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to include the Thursday slate. Then, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we already did.

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Speaker 1: We did a lineup for the Thursday games. We'll do

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Speaker 1: the the Sunday games only here this week, and we

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Speaker 1: weren't going to pick anybody from the Jets anyway.

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Speaker 2: So okay, the only dad did Friday game the Monday

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Speaker 2: slate either?

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Speaker 1: Then?

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Speaker 2: Right, Sunday only.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's Sunday only, is what we got here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have ten games to pick from though, ten teams

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Speaker 1: or ten to twenty teams, so let's not play a game.

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Speaker 2: Ten games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a look at the defenses. And you

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Speaker 1: have the Texans at twenty six hundred. Wow, why are

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Speaker 1: they Solow Jackson Plan Jacksonville. That's pretty low. They're at

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Speaker 1: home too, that's yeah interesting, Yeah, yeah, it's not bad.

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Speaker 1: You get the Bills at twenty seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: Tell me the opponents again at Philadelphia?

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Speaker 1: Oh uh, you got the Raiders at twenty eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: They're playing Kansas City at home.

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Speaker 2: Two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the Rams at Arizona they're twenty eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: You've got buff the Eagles against Buffalo at home twenty

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Speaker 1: nine hundred.

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Speaker 2: No big than that either.

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Speaker 1: You got the Falcons against the Saints twenty nine hundred.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals against the Rams are three thousand. The Jaguars

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Speaker 1: against Houston are three thousand.

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Speaker 2: Who'd rather have in that game? Houston? Yeah? In their building? Especially?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacksonville. How about this that Jacksonville has won. Not

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Speaker 1: only is Trevor Lawrence won for one in four in

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Speaker 1: his career against the Texans, the Jaguars is a franchise,

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Speaker 1: have won one of the last eleven meetings between those

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's not like it's the Chiefs. No, man, Houston's

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Speaker 2: been one of the bars teams in the league for

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Speaker 2: a long stretch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Chiefs against the Raiders are thirty one hundred.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers against Tennessee are thirty one hundred.

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Speaker 2: I was wonder how much Tennessee is. I picked them

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Speaker 2: up in a dynasty league on the cheap.

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Speaker 1: The Broncos against the Browns are thirty two hundred.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots against the Giants are thirty two hundred.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's up. Yeah, I think Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Against the Colts are thirty three hundred, Bengals against the

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Speaker 1: Steelers are thirty three hundred. Titans against Carolina are thirty

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Speaker 1: four hundred.

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Speaker 2: Not bad, it's kind of a sneaky, cheap start. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Colts against Tampa Bay are thirty four hundred. Giants

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Speaker 1: against New England are thirty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: I would prefer New England's d ye, yeah to Giants d.

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Speaker 1: The Saints against Atlanta are thirty six hundred.

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Speaker 2: Understandable, the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Against the Bengals are thirty seven hundred, and the top

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Speaker 1: defense of the week is Cleveland at Denver thirty eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: I like Houston and Kansas City. I mean they seem

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Speaker 2: so chocky.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I don't understand whether so low.

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Speaker 2: I mean Kansas City is a great defense against the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: who's not impressive. I mean they did a number on

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Speaker 1: You want to plug I mean, there's the Chiefs are

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Speaker 1: thirty one hundred, the Texans are twenty six hundred.

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Speaker 2: I definitely prefer the Chiefs. I do too. I like them.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's plug them in if we need the money away. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get a bunch of sacks they're gonna Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a really good d All Vegas wants to do

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Speaker 1: now is run the ball. The Chiefs are tough to

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Speaker 1: run on. Like no, I thought they just lost. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: so looking at the quarterback position, you wanna do quarterback

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Speaker 2: Want to do tight end? Okay?

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Speaker 1: You got Hurts at eighty three hundred, you got Mahomes

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Speaker 1: at eighty two hundred. Josh Allen is eighty one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia twenty ninth against opposing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, their secondary hasn't been great.

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Speaker 1: C J. Stroud seventy seven hundred. Jacksonville is twenty eighth

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Speaker 1: against opposing quarterbacks their past.

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Speaker 2: Final team, Yeah, yeah they are.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is sixty nine hundred. Trevor Lawrence against Houston

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Speaker 1: I bet they're not correct. Matthew Stafford against Arizona is

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Speaker 2: I don't trust him to stay with Yeah, that's tough.

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Speaker 2: My main league. I have Stafford and no one else

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Speaker 2: living walk in the edge.

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr is fifty eight hundred. He is questionable for

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Speaker 1: that game. Baker Mayfield fifty five hundred against Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: He's playing okay, but that's not real.

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Speaker 1: Will Levis against Carolina is fifty three hundred.

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Speaker 2: They don't protect well enough.

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Speaker 1: Jake Browning against the Steelers is fifty two hundred. The

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Speaker 1: Steelers are now eleventh against opposing quarterb Yeah, Tommy, Tommy

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Speaker 1: DeVito fifty two hundred.

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Speaker 2: Come on, it's boil next.

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew Gardner Minshew is fifty one hundred against Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: This is I don't like this neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones is fifty one hundred eight and O'Connell was

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Speaker 1: five thousand. Jamis Winston is forty nine hundred. He may

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Speaker 1: not even play.

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Speaker 2: If Winston was playing, I'd have some interest at that price.

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Speaker 1: Young is forty nine hundred. Thompson Robinson is forty nine hundred.

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Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter is forty eight hundred, as is Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 2: I don't like any of those last ten you mentioned.

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Speaker 1: I hear you, but there's no way on God's green

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Speaker 1: earth that Tommy DeVito should be fifty two hundred.

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Speaker 2: Who do you like? There were some mid range ones

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Speaker 2: I thought were okay. Yeah, I didn't. I'm not big

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Speaker 1: I kind of like, I kind of like Stroud at

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. I mean, they just throw the ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: their secondary is not great and their receivers are definitely.

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Speaker 1: Have Jacksonville's better against a run than they are big

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Speaker 1: past eight time there.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a whole division. Yeah, true. I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of it is because Dereck Henry's in the

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Speaker 2: division and Dathan Taylor, and that's how you build yourself.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. I really didn't have a strong

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's it's either him or Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: Houston has more shootout potential.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. No, I like Stroud better than Murray.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just probably straight from now. Okay, uh, let's look

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Speaker 1: at tight end. Kelsey is eighty two hundred, Dalton Schultz

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Speaker 1: Who they playing in Philly, Philly, which is twenty eighth

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Speaker 2: I'm a kincaid believer.

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Speaker 1: Hill is five thousand, Taysom Hill five thousand. They're twenty

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Speaker 2: But he's but he's not end. He does everything right,

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Speaker 2: he's he should be.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's nobody else like him in the league that

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Speaker 1: does a little bit of everything. That's kind of the

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Speaker 1: cheat code, no question. Uh, Trey McBride forty seven.

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Speaker 2: Hundred, he gets targets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Evan Ingram forty two hundred.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he has a touchdowns here.

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Speaker 1: David in Djoku is forty one hundred. Oh, they are

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Speaker 1: thirty second against opposing tight ends. He's got fifteen targets

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Speaker 2: He catches half of them. It's yeah, which is prohich

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Speaker 2: is a good chance that might be the case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then you get Pits at four thousand. Higbee is

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Speaker 1: thirty five hundred, John new Smith is thirty four hundred.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Henry pat Farm was all the way down at

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Speaker 1: twenty nine hundred.

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Speaker 2: It's thirteen targets all year, I know.

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Speaker 1: But they're twenty six now against opposing tight ends because

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Speaker 1: some of these other teams, they're not good against them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, unless you have some insight that you think

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Speaker 2: he's gonna get. Actually, the two games last year against

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Speaker 2: the Bengals, he tore them off. Yeah, he had like

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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty or eight seventy yards combined. I

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Speaker 2: still think he's a really good player, but you get

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Speaker 2: targeted once last week. He is thirteen for the year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think in Djoku's I hate saying in

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Speaker 1: Djokhu's the safe play because there's nothing safe about David

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Speaker 2: But targets is all I care about.

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Speaker 1: Targets is yeah, yeah, I mean I think it might

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Speaker 1: don't care about chockey picks, yeah, the FS so much.

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Speaker 1: I just want to get the most points I can. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's move on to running back.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: We can only average right now. We're fifty eight to fifty.

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Speaker 2: Because we've Stroud price.

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Speaker 1: Stroud was pricy for us, So Kamar is eighty four hundred.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's worth that.

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley seventy three hundred, Travis Atn seventy one hundred,

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Speaker 1: as we do this show b Jean Robinson sixty five hundred,

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Speaker 1: ne Orlands number two against running backs, Derrick Henry against

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Speaker 1: Carolina sixty four hundred.

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Speaker 2: Their line stinks.

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Speaker 1: They're thirty first against the run.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, what else are you going to

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Speaker 2: do if you're the Tennessee Titan. Yeah, let's give him

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Speaker 2: a ball a lot. Here's why I wouldn't like Henry

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Speaker 2: and this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got Joe Mixon at sixty three hundred, Isaiah

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Speaker 2: The past catching thing for him isumbieah it real.

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Speaker 1: Devin Singletary is sixty is six thousand, James Connor is

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Speaker 1: fifty nine hundred. Ramandre Stevenson is fifty eight hundred against

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Speaker 1: the Giants like that. Javonte Williams is fifty seven hundred

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Speaker 1: Jerome Williams too, that stuff. Yeah, Jerome Ford against Denver

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Speaker 1: is fifty six hundred. Denvers can't if they give up

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Speaker 1: five and a half yards per carry.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know, but the last last month has been respectable.

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Speaker 1: I mean they weren't respectable last week against Mines. Minnesota

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's not horrible. Uh, Damian Pierce fifty

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Speaker 2: Jaylen Wren is fifty four hundred. The Steeler guys are attracted.

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Speaker 2: You could do it.

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Speaker 1: Nase Harris is forty nine, or do you could plug

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Speaker 1: Jalen Warren and Nause Harrison. You're probably gonna get one

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty combined rushing yards this week.

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Speaker 2: Bet one of them scores. Yeah, at least five catches

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Speaker 1: Instead of trying to guess which which one's gonna be

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not what you know ideally do.

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Speaker 1: Now you can average sixty two hundred. The rested a

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Speaker 2: I really thought we should try to find someone well

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Speaker 1: Nagie Harris a forty nine hundred again the two I

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Speaker 1: know he had twelve for thirty five against Cleveland, but

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and they're gonna run the ball.

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Speaker 2: I like his approach a lot, not just because we're

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Speaker 1: nine thousand. Wow, Stefan Diggs is eighty eight hundred. They're

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Speaker 2: That's attractive. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is eighty three hundred. I can't start Chase

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is questionable.

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Speaker 2: He's eight thousand.

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams against Casey is seventy eight hundred. Pooka Nakua

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Speaker 2: One. Yeah, without Cup, he's gonna get a million tis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I expect him to play. I think I

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Speaker 1: don't know about right. Mike Evans is seventy four hundred.

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Speaker 2: Not bad, a really good year.

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Speaker 1: Feeling is seventy three hundred. And that is a pass

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have to have eighty r bombs now.

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Speaker 1: Nicol and Dimian hats a whole bunch of passes. Devonte

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, do we want a Texans receiver for

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Speaker 2: a little stack action, Nico or Dell or well?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael Pittman sixty eight hundred. They're Tampa Bay twenty

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Speaker 2: The Post's a really good start this week, come off

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Speaker 1: Chris Olave is sixty six hundred, Nico Collins is sixty

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's true. I wouldn't mind that.

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Speaker 1: Chris Godwin is for sixty three hundred. T Higgins sixty

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Speaker 2: been thrown around on Twitter or whatever. Ridley's better Wednesday Jones, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I saw that. Yeah, because he takes the middle of

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers is fifty eight hundred, Christian Kirk is fifty

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Speaker 2: Well we you beat us last week, Kirk. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Rashie Rice fifty five hundred. Courtland Sutton is fifty four hundred.

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Speaker 2: He's their number one. Yeah. I know it's the Browns.

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Speaker 2: They're playing the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Browns on the road it's not as

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Speaker 1: close and close. It's like one hundred and fifty yards difference.

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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis is fifty three hundred. Is this the Gabe

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Speaker 2: I don't trust him at all.

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Speaker 1: Marquise Brown fifty two hundred, Drake London five thousand, Deontay

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Speaker 1: Downs forty eight.

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Speaker 2: Hundred, he's no more injury designation, has.

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Speaker 1: No injury designation. Again, they're twenty ninth against opposing Why

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Speaker 1: Japan was.

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Speaker 2: The guy who was going to kind of loby for

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Speaker 2: but Downs will be a cheaper version. And what do

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Speaker 2: you do think he's trending upwards and just kind of forgotten? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because and then they were off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's putty man, we need a cheap guy here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: then we can really say we could really spend then

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Speaker 1: George Pickens is forty seven hundred, Tyler Boyd is forty

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Speaker 2: Game Yeah, you could.

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Speaker 1: Go Rashid Shaheed for he's all or nothing forty three hundred.

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Speaker 2: It seems like Perry's going to be the Thomas, the rookie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: At well, it's forty one hundred. If you knew that,

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Speaker 1: if you knew Cup wasn't playing.

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Speaker 2: Well, then yes. But even with them though, it's not

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Speaker 1: But now we can if we're gonna I like the

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Speaker 1: Josh Dollens Yeah situation. If you're looking looking for some

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Speaker 2: I kind of like the Evans at some of the price.

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Speaker 1: You're dude, seventy four hundred, we can average sixty six

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Speaker 1: dollars for three spots. We got Evans, thieln you want

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Speaker 1: Brown and digs and digs.

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Speaker 2: I would not go for Chickill.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia is thirty second against opposing wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: You can make it work with him. We could throw

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Speaker 1: I don't want to start two Colts, but Pittman he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the one to strike up. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: Doesn't scare me though, No, I mean he's coming off

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Speaker 2: I know Dell's a really good player, but I think

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Speaker 2: Nico's their one. We've shrouded. He's under budget too, right,

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Speaker 2: he's under He's sixty four hundred.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm in. Okay, we'll go with Nico Collins.

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Speaker 1: We still have another wide receiver. Now we can average

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Speaker 1: sixty eight hundred for our final two spots. Evans price

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Speaker 1: Evans was seventy four hundred.

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Speaker 2: We had some backs we liked, though. If we put

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Speaker 1: I can I can be talked into Evans there that

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Speaker 1: that would leave us in with sixty two hundred to

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Speaker 1: spend on our flex.

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Speaker 2: Something decent that would get us.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco, James Book, We're Shad White, DeAndre Hopkins, Devin Singletary.

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Speaker 2: We can just go all in on that Houston Jacksonville game.

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Speaker 2: James Cooker, Andre Stevenson.

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Speaker 1: We gets your home Ford there at fifty six hundred

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Speaker 1: for our flex.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad. That terrible defense. I'm in with that.

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Speaker 2: I think Ford's a good player too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why they were giving Hunt the ball

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Speaker 2: Quarter unless there was some dinged up thing, and you

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Speaker 2: know that I didn't know. It didn't make much sense.

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand that either.

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Speaker 1: Ye uh, if we do that, we we have we

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Speaker 2: If we do that upgrade on Nico, we could be

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Speaker 2: upgrade Evans to like Diggs or is that not? Let

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Speaker 2: me see.

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Speaker 1: That would get us eight thousand, and that would get

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Speaker 1: us Cooper, Cup, DeVante, Adams.

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Speaker 2: Pook and Nakula if we knew If we knew Nakula was.

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Speaker 1: Playing, Yeah, I want to get I think he is,

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Speaker 1: but I think the Coup is likely to play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got a shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna play. I'd be fine with that. Where

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Speaker 2: else would you think about upgrading? Like if we put

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Speaker 2: Evans back in and we upgraded from Nico.

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Speaker 1: From Nico would get us to seven thousand. He's a

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Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty good player. Yeah, that would get us

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Speaker 1: tank Dell if you feel Dell's what did Dell do again?

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Speaker 2: Dank Dell went off against him the first time one

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Speaker 1: Tank Dell the first time around against Jacksonville had five

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Speaker 2: Do we like Dell that much more than Nico? I

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Speaker 2: mean the recent success here's the target.

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Speaker 1: Last three games here are his targets eleven, fourteen, and ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He goes short and he goes deep. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean I still like four touchdowns in the last

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Speaker 2: I do like the hookup with Stroud. I mean he's

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Speaker 2: is it's real? Oh yeah, go take del Yeah Okay.

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Speaker 1: Then we only have one hundred dollars left.

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Speaker 2: Eat it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to lock that in. So we got

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Speaker 2: I mean that we could. I mean, I think the

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Speaker 1: Like I think there'll be enough scoring in that Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: Games of the weekend. Yeah, Oh, I think so too. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So Stroud at quarterback at seventy seven hundred, Jaylem Warren

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Speaker 1: We do think the Steelers are going to be able

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Speaker 2: While they also need to complete more passes.

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Speaker 1: They'll do that, but if they can do both of

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Speaker 2: This is obviously a weird approach taking two backs from

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Speaker 1: Well. The other thing is is they get all of

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Speaker 1: any Like there's an end around mixed in here and there,

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Speaker 1: but that's it. So those two at running back, Josh

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Speaker 2: Bay, I got a lot. I think they're too cheap.

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Speaker 1: Tank Dell at sixty nine hundred at one wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: another wide receiver spot Mike Evans at seventy four hundred

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Speaker 1: against Indianapolis. David and Joku at tight end at forty

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Speaker 2: Yeah one we get Ford.

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Speaker 1: We got Jerome Ford as well at fifty six hundred.

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Speaker 2: And that's probably gonna be a low scoring.

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Speaker 2: Last question though, I know it's only a hundred bucks,

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Speaker 1: One hundred bucks over Ford would be because he's a

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Speaker 2: I may rather have Williams against Cleveland. The matchup so

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Speaker 1: I think Ford is the guy. Yeah, all right, I'm

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Speaker 2: We have half two Texans, two Steelers, two Browns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're betting on some games there. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 1: our lineup for this week.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on Monday to see if we hit

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Speaker 1: on that one. And on the Thursday schedule.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we we have to to recap PURDAYE one

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Speaker 2: hundred years ago.

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Speaker 1: Uh So anyway, we're gonna get to another break. He

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Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lelly. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the Drive you're on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: not counting the Thursday night games.

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Speaker 1: the slate. A Cup coming this weekend when we return.

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Speaker 2: Ah nice, how about that. Well, they give away all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't cheat you on those looking at this

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Speaker 1: week's games. Friday, you mentioned the Black Friday game, and

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Speaker 1: you can of course go to shop dot Steelers dot

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Speaker 1: the Friday game. Miami minus ten at the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: The over under is now forty one and a half.

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Speaker 1: It opened at forty two and a half.

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Speaker 2: Here's an over under for you. I don't think the

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Speaker 2: Jets get the seven points.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they do either, yea with Tim like.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but Boyle. Yeah, but maybe like Haul or

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Speaker 2: Wilson gets free. So maybe I should say they don't

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Speaker 2: get the eight points.

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Speaker 1: They don't score touch They didn't score any touchdowns with

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Miami's d is better than people think.

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Speaker 2: We know what their offense is capable of. I don't

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Speaker 2: think this is close to a close game. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it is either.

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Speaker 1: How many what's the over under and Jets points is

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Speaker 1: probably lower than the times we see Aaron Rodgers standing

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Speaker 1: on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, whenever their over under points are, I would

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Speaker 2: bet the under.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably a ten or something. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't think they get the eight. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they do either. Moving on to Sunday's games, this is

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Speaker 1: a big rivalry game. You got the Saints at Falcons.

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Speaker 1: The Falcons favored by one.

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Speaker 2: That's a massive game.

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Speaker 1: The over under is now forty two and a half.

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Speaker 2: They're the clear leaders in the clubhouse to win that division.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, the Saints are a game ahead. I

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Speaker 1: think the Saints win the game.

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Speaker 2: I do too. I do too. I don't even care

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Speaker 2: who the quarterback is. I might even prefer Winston. But

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Speaker 2: they got Kamara and you know, a Lave, and both

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Speaker 2: these teams are coming off from the defense is better. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I trust them a little more.

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Speaker 1: The Falcons losing Grady Jarrett was huge.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I forgot about that. That is huge, huge. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's probably their best defensive player, certainly right in the mix.

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Speaker 1: In the mix, we've got Carolina at Tennessee. The Titans

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Speaker 1: favored by three and a half. The over under now

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Speaker 1: thirty six and a half.

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Speaker 2: I don't like Titans being favored by.

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Speaker 1: Three anyone no, I don't either.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do we think we considered Henry for DFS. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think he could have a big game, but this

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Speaker 2: might be ten to seven. Carolina's rough, though, they are

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Speaker 2: I get to take the points. Yeah, I don't. I

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Speaker 2: don't know that. I like, yeah, I assume like Ryan

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Speaker 2: Burns is playing. I mean those that that line's rough

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Speaker 2: for Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's not often the Carolina is going

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Speaker 1: to have a clear edge on the offensive line they

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Speaker 1: do in this game.

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Speaker 2: I think they're doing this game. Yeah, I'll take the points.

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Speaker 2: It's in Carolina too, it's in Tennessee. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is at Indianapolis. The Colts favor by two

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Speaker 1: and a half. The over under is forty three and

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Speaker 1: a half.

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Speaker 2: It's a good line. I think I'll take the home team, though,

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Speaker 2: by a field goal. Taylor Pittman downs those guys. Mayfield's

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Speaker 2: playing well though. I think I'll take the points. I

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Speaker 2: understand I would not touch it. I think that's I don't.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to have to, you know, put any

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Speaker 1: of my heart earned money.

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Speaker 2: On that game. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If I were picking that, I might take the points. Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is back to back road games for Tampa and

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Speaker 1: the culture coming off.

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Speaker 2: Of bye Yeah, I would think guy like you know,

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Speaker 2: Taylor should be fresh and those type of dudes. But

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Speaker 2: that's a sneaky over. Tampa could stop the run a

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Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, they're a pass funnel too. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: a sneaky over. I could see some points in that one.

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Speaker 1: New England minus three at the New England's favored by

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Speaker 1: three on the road. The over under is thirty three

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Speaker 1: and a half.

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Speaker 2: We don't know who New england starting quarterback is.

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Speaker 1: We do know who's starting for the Giants.

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Speaker 2: I'll take the points, though. I mean, New England's not

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Speaker 2: go an turnball over six times Washington. I'm pretty certain

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Speaker 2: of that, which is the only way the Giants can

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Speaker 2: win games. But can New England blow anybody out or

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Speaker 2: win by ten over?

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Speaker 1: The best offensive player in the game is Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 2: That's so I was thing of two. Give him a

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Speaker 2: million touches. Yeah, and maybe that keeps a close. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an ugly game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is serious draft implications.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacksonville is minus two at Houston.

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Speaker 2: Knowing what we know.

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Speaker 1: When I said one in the last eleven games, Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: has beaten Houston. The over under opened it forty five

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Speaker 1: and a half, it's now forty eight.

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Speaker 2: And a half. The home team that place would be

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Speaker 2: wound up.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be very wound up. And the over

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Speaker 1: moved three points since it opened up.

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Speaker 2: Now, I say I could see that being a shootout too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know who's the better quarterback at

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Speaker 2: the moment, but I like both of them. I know

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Speaker 2: Lawrence is that a rough year. There's plenty of weapons

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Speaker 2: in that game. I don't think either defense is great,

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Speaker 2: especially against the pass. I'll take the home team.

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Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, I'll take the home team getting points. Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland is at Denver. Denver favored by two and a half,

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Speaker 1: the over under just thirty four and a half.

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Speaker 2: I like the Broncos. It's a tough one. It's a

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Speaker 2: tough one, but Cleveland, I give the coaching advantage of Denver.

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Speaker 1: They've got They've got one very small way to win

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Speaker 1: this game, and that is the play like they did

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Speaker 1: last week, except they were home last week.

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Speaker 2: Well and Pon he's got tape.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough way to win in this league.

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00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: And their defense isn't quite as it's good, but it's

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Speaker 1: not daunting like it is at home.

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Speaker 2: So the more I think this one through. The thing

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Speaker 2: I harped on to no end last week was the

601
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Speaker 2: Browns run so many more plays than their opponent. But

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Speaker 2: in the altitude. Yeah, good luck with that. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 2: take I'll take the home team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think Denver. Denver's in a They're playing better.

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Speaker 2: They manage their quarterback the.

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Speaker 1: Ball, and to your point, it's a better coach than

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Speaker 1: and I think that they'll manage. Yet, you got the

608
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Speaker 1: Rams at minus and half. It's almost basically pick them.

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Speaker 1: Get at Arizona. The spread has gone down. It opened

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Speaker 1: at forty six and a half for the over under,

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Speaker 1: and now it's down to forty four and a half.

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Speaker 2: Boy, I went the over. I think those are two

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Speaker 2: bad defenses, yeah, and two offenses that can score when healthy,

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Speaker 2: which they seem to be not cop I'll take the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I think I'll take the Rams as well. Their defense

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Speaker 1: is better than.

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Speaker 2: Better in Arizona. Yeah, Yeah, I'll take the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Kansas City favored by nine over the Raiders. The over

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Speaker 1: under is forty three and a half. It opened at

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Speaker 1: forty four and a half. I love the CACD, I

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Speaker 1: love Casey's defense. I don't like where their offense is

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Speaker 1: at right now, and I think the Raiders are playing better.

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Speaker 2: I'll take the points in this one. Take the points too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think.

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Speaker 1: Kansas City wins it too, but I think they went.

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Speaker 2: By like seven. I don't think Mahomes is really comfortable.

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Speaker 2: I mean, his tackles are bad and Crosby.

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Speaker 1: Tackles, they're the penalties. They're like if you look at

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Speaker 1: the penalty that the three of the top most penalized

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Speaker 1: players in the league played.

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Speaker 2: For the Chiefs, both tackles.

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Speaker 1: Both the tackles in the cornerback seeds. Yeah, yeah, he

633
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Speaker 1: would talk about playing like nobody says, oh Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: they're undisciplined. Yeah, like they're I mean they're both. All

635
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Speaker 1: three of those guys are in like double digits.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't surprise me. Sneed's gonna be a guy that will

637
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Speaker 2: talk about in the off seasons he's a free agent

638
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: corner that he is gravvy and regressive and he's I

639
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: like his style, But it doesn't shock the three of

640
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Speaker 2: those are in the top of the league. The tackles stink.

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Speaker 2: The tackles stink and Mahomes is not trusting the tackles

642
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Speaker 2: or his wide receivers at all, and he's not quite himself.

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Speaker 1: But I do like how Pacheco's running, and I think

644
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: wild man he's like when he hits the line of scrimmage,

645
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Speaker 1: he's like the Tasmanian devil, like spitting everywhere, arms of.

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Speaker 2: The legs flying. A lot going on. I think the

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Speaker 2: Raiders keep it close though, Yeah, I do too.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll they'll they'll try to run the football,

649
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: but I think at some point Aidan O'Connell is going

650
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: to make a mistake.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they'll win. No, I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah. I bet Casey's bad against the spread

653
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Speaker 2: this year. I'll bet. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They have been for the last couple years because they

655
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Speaker 1: just don't blow teams out like but like they're not

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Speaker 1: the chiefs of Patrick Mahomes first.

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Speaker 2: Couple of years. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Big game this week Buffalo at Philadelphia. Philadelphia favored by

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Speaker 1: three and a half. It opened at forty seven and

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Speaker 1: a half, it's now forty eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: This is very non analytical. I think the Eagles are

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Speaker 2: due to drop one. I think they're good. I just

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Speaker 2: don't think that they're a one loss team after Thanksgiving. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's desperate, they're a quality opponent. I'll take the points.

665
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're going to lose, but I think

666
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: the Eagles are due to drop one.

667
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: Well, they get the forty nine ers coming up in

668
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, I'll pick it. I'll say that

669
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: that's when it's going to happen. I don't think you

670
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: lose in Philadelphia. The Bills have not been good on

671
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: the road this year. No, they've been really bad, in fact,

672
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: on the road this year. I think they're unbeaten at

673
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: home in like one in five the road, So something

674
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: to do that they just don't travel as well. I

675
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: don't think Buffalo is going to be able to run

676
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: the ball at all in this game, so it's going

677
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: to be all on Allen, which against Philadelphia's defense is fine.

678
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't mind that part, which is why I'll take

679
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 1: the points. But I think Philadelphia wins the game outright.

680
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people talk about hurts for MVP,

681
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: but I think Allen's playing much better than that.

682
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: I think this is like a twenty four to twenty

683
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: one game or something like that.

684
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm taking the points. Did you say you're taking the points? Yeah?

685
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I think the Eagles win it, but

686
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: I think the Bills keep it close enough that I.

687
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: Might throw a buck on the money line. It's just

688
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: more punch, okay.

689
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: Uh. The Sunday Night game is we didn't get this

690
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: game in our dfs for some reason. Yeah, we could

691
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: have used the Ravens and Chargers and.

692
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah.

693
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: Baltimore favored by three and a half at Los Angeles.

694
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: The over under opening at forty six and a half.

695
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: It has stayed at forty six three and a half.

696
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: Ravens favorite road on the road.

697
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: I think they'll rip apart the Chargers d no Bow,

698
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: no Bosa.

699
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: Although he say no Bosa his career high for sacks.

700
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: You know what it is, it's low seven and a half.

701
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: Talk about him like he's a superstar. He's not his

702
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: brother at all. He's getting paid like his brother, but

703
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: he's not his brother.

704
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: I like the Ravens in that game. I do too.

705
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are broken there.

706
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: I think they could be making golf reservations now.

707
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: Could I see a situation here where Herbert wills them

708
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: to a victory. Yeah, I could see that. But I

709
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: think there'll be a lot of Ravens fans there probably.

710
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure there will be traveling after Thanksgiving weekend. If

711
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: the Steelers were in l A right now, that would

712
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: be fans right now. Be a huge similar situation one.

713
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just don't think they know how to win.

714
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: I trust the Ravens much more. Herbert might have a

715
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: big game and then they'll fall short as they always do. Yeah,

716
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: same against Packers, I think.

717
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar might have been the start of the

718
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: week in May. Yeah, maybe because he three hundred yards

719
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: passing another fish, scoring another fifty rushing Yeah, I mean,

720
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: and then Gus Edwards is three for three touchdowns when

721
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: he falls into the end zone.

722
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: That's the way that goes.

723
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 1: The Monday night game, you got the Chicago Bears at

724
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. Vikings favored by three and a half.

725
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: The over under opened at forty four and a half.

726
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: It's now down to forty three and a half.

727
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: No guarantee, Jefferson plays, no guarantee.

728
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: No.

729
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: I think Chicago's playing better. I think fields is playing better.

730
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: I think their defense is playing better. Their own line

731
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: is healthy three and a half. He said three and

732
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: a half. It was under three. It's a tough line, Minnesota.

733
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: It's a real tough one. Yeah. Yeah, that's the right

734
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: line in my opinion. But I'll take the hook.

735
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: So you're taking the Bears. Yeah, yeah, that one.

736
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: That half.

737
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: You think Minnesota wins it outright or probably?

738
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: I think it's a close division game. Chicago runs the ball, time,

739
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: keeps a close. Fields makes a big player two in

740
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: Minnesota probably win. I think I'm with you on that one.

741
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: I just think you know again that the and here's

742
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: the thing again, I love Josh Dobbs, but even in

743
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: that game, even that game last week, they put put

744
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: the ball on the ground.

745
00:33:59,080 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: A couple of times.

746
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, give him like thirteen fumbles now this year.

747
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: It's what he does. Yeah, it worries me. So now

748
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: I'll take the Bears to keep it close with their

749
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: running game.

750
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Fields, he can be a handful. He makes

751
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: some plays. Yeah, he's looking good. Yeah, he can throw

752
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: the football a little bit. And I know, I mean,

753
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: you know the Vikings are going to blitz him. Yeah,

754
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what his numbers are against the blitz,

755
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: but if you overrun him, I know what happens, then

756
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: doing damage too.

757
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

758
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: I could see him breaking, getting free a couple of

759
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: times for some long runs, and then finding Dj Moore

760
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: behind the defense division game.

761
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take the points. Yeah.

762
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: So that's our picks on this week's game. That just

763
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 1: leaves us one game left to pick this week.

764
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: What would that be.

765
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: We'll have to do that when we come back after

766
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: the break.

767
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: I like it light and well.

768
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: In the meantime, we can think that the one thing

769
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: the Steelers need.

770
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: To do is complete more passes.

771
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: Complete more passes. Absolutely, he is Matt Williamson. I am

772
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 1: Dale Lallie. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

773
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We'll be back more right after this. Welcome back.

774
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lollie. He is the Matt Williamson. There is

775
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: no other except no other substitutes.

776
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go.

777
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: There are many other Dale Allie's in the world, but

778
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: there are some Matt.

779
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: Williams a bunch. I've never really done it, but my

780
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: kids have, and they've googled Matt Williamson, and I guess

781
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm still to top list.

782
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: I am on the top of the list for the day.

783
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: There's some other Dale Lollie's out there, but there you.

784
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: Have less competition. I have a lot less competition. It's

785
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: not exactly a com when it comes to the forefront,

786
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: go right past my smelly butt. Yeah.

787
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: Anyway, So the game that we have to pick, struggle

788
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: with the score. Okay, go ahead, all right, So Steelers,

789
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: it's minus one and a half now. It opened at

790
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: minus one at the Bengals at pay Court Stadium in Cincinnati.

791
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: That's one o'clock on Sunday. The line opened at thirty

792
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: five and a half on the over under. It is

793
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: now thirty four and a half. Okay, so uh to

794
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: me again, I look at the line of scrimmage and

795
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers should win there. They're running the

796
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: football very effectively. Quarterback making his first career start against him,

797
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: He's stron fifteen passes in the NFL. There's a reason

798
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: why he's been a backup.

799
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: I have no faith at all, none none.

800
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: Now, he made some nice throws last week against the Ravens,

801
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: but again he made some bad ones too, and he

802
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: took in a half of football. He took three sacks. Yeah, yeah,

803
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: that's that's going to be trouble. Problem that's going to

804
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: be troublesome. And I don't think that the Bengals are

805
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: going to run the ball effectively. Again, I go back

806
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: to that that offensive line. You know, they're there. What's

807
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: their bread and butter? Who's their bread on?

808
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean you'd love to get Chase the ball

809
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: as much as possible, but everyon on the planet knows

810
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: that's coming, and can you protect it for him to

811
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: get down? Feel deep? I don't see that he can. Yeah,

812
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: I don't.

813
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so either. So I've got the Steelers

814
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: winning this when and this is what we talked about

815
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: on Monday coming out of the bye week, that how

816
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: much the schedule gets easier in terms of the defenses

817
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: that you face, that the offense should look better.

818
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was bound to happen either way.

819
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, I've got the Steelers winning this one twenty.

820
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: Four to ten. I haven't win in twenty to ten, okay,

821
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: But my problem with the score. I don't think the

822
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: Bengals get to ten. I really don't. I think they're often.

823
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I can see again, I can see Chase

824
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: getting free once maybe something like that, you know.

825
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: It certainly could happen or pick six or something. They're

826
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: good to taking the ball away too. I mean, I

827
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: wanted to say nine, but I don't think it's gonna

828
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: be just three field goals. I thought about seven, but

829
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: that seems too low. I don't think they get to ten.

830
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 2: I really think the Steelers will have thirty five minutes

831
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: a time of possession. We'll get to two hundred or

832
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: so rushing yards. We backed it up with our DFS lineup.

833
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 2: I don't think Mixing gets to seventy five. And he's

834
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: their only ball carrier.

835
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Browning. Browning played an entire half against

836
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: the Ravens last week. He finished eight to fourteen for

837
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: sixty eight yards in a touchdown, but most of that

838
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: came on the final drive and the Ravens were just like, Okay, yeah,

839
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: it's thirty four to thirteen here, this game is over.

840
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 2: I know. I don't think the Steelers will start out

841
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: in soft coverage. I mean, and I think their pass

842
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: rush will be really strong. And I don't see any

843
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 2: kind of run game from the Bengals. I keep going

844
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: back to that run differential that the Bengals have. It's

845
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: the worst thing you could have going into the Steeler situation,

846
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 2: because they're not gonna run and they're not gonna stop

847
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: the run.

848
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: If you win the toss in this one. Now, last week,

849
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: the Steelers won the opening toss and deferred and put

850
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: the Browns offense on the field. In this one, I

851
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: might go the other way and put my offense on

852
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: the field and just say, okay, here we go, guys,

853
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: go out there and take take control of this game

854
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: because I want maybe I want the Bengals playing from

855
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: behind right away.

856
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: And that's not a new coordinator thing or anything. No,

857
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: that's you want to put them on their heels.

858
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna come out run the football so

859
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: and you can't stop it.

860
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: So here we go. More often than not, I want

861
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: the ball to start the half. I understand that. Yeah,

862
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I don't feel strong

863
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: enough to go away from that. But frankly, I don't

864
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: have a strong opinion on do I want to win

865
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: the toss or not.

866
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: As things happened last week by not taking the football

867
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: to open the game now the Steeler, the Browns only

868
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: got a couple of first downs on their opening drive,

869
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: but the punt was down to the nine. Yeah, yeah,

870
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: and then you gave up the sack, and then all

871
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you're now you're just trying to

872
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: get out from under your own the shadow of your

873
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: own goalpost. You get a punt out to the fifty,

874
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: and now you've just given the Browns a short field

875
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: to work on. They're probably gonna get at least a

876
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: field goal in that situation, they end up getting a

877
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: touchdown and now you're trailing the whole game again.

878
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be a Matt Canada apologist, but

879
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 2: I do think it's important for this season. Steelers average

880
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: starting off it's really really awful. I mean, and this

881
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: they're not.

882
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: And some of that is the fault of the defense

883
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: because they give up.

884
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 2: It's a team game for that stuff, right, I mean

885
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: they don't. They don't.

886
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: They haven't gotten they haven't gotten as many three ounce

887
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: this year.

888
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: No, no, they haven't. And it's not like because the

889
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 2: kicking game has been terrible. Harvin's had some rough punts

890
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: in there, for sure, but you're not missing field goals

891
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: and putting people in good But the Steelers offense is

892
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: not starting drives in a nice spot, which is just

893
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: terrible for them. So back to your point with the

894
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: coin flip, Maybe I would like to start my first

895
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: drive on the twenty five.

896
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wouldn't be bad. Hey, at least we're not

897
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, outside.

898
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: To ten, right right, right right, because this offense can't

899
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: go eighty yards.

900
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: You know what happens when you're inside to ten. And

901
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: I've talked to some players about this. It's just totally

902
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: you're just trying to get to two first downs. Yeah,

903
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: that's the goal going into a drive that starts inside

904
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: your own ten is to get two first downs to

905
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: be able to flip the field again.

906
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: And even getting one might be acceptable, Yeah, because it's

907
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: such a tough spot.

908
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: Because you can't you basically you're throwing away half your

909
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: playbook because you're just not going to run those things. Yeah,

910
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: when you're that that deep in your own territory, that's.

911
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: Exactly what this team doesn't need is more long fields. No,

912
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: you know that that would be problematic. I think there's

913
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 2: the stealer Nation is going to be in a really

914
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: good mood on Monday, Like, I don't think they're gonna

915
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: be thirty And this is a for four hundred gyard

916
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: game in Forever and Pickett throws for three fifty and

917
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 2: five touchdowns. I mean, that's not what I'm saying.

918
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't think I wouldn't want them to play that way.

919
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: With the exception of Jamar Chase, I just don't see

920
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: scary things in black and worn. Yeah.

921
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: Wh what about Tanner Hudson, the tight end that he's

922
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: kind of emerged here.

923
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: For the last few weeks, A right, tight ends are

924
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: starting a little more.

925
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: You know.

926
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 2: So these are the weapons.

927
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 1: If you take t Higgins out of the equation, which

928
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: I bet he doesn't play, it's Tanner Hudson, it's Trenton Irwin,

929
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: it's Tyler Boyd, it's Drew Sample, and then you get

930
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: your march. Jamar Chase had two catches for twelve yards

931
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: in one touchdown last week in that game.

932
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: I mean you think he's gonna get He's also had

933
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 2: that back thing too. Yeah, I mean, I bet it's

934
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: better now than it was a week or two ago.

935
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: But but if you want to take one guy that's

936
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: not out of a game, yeah, you can do it.

937
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: I mean, if Porter shadows him seventy five percent of

938
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: the time or whatever, and he has shadowed each of

939
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: the last three two of the games, I mean, that's

940
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: becoming a Steeler thing. Andrew will coverage his way. The

941
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: Trent Irwin's of the world, go have at it. Yeah,

942
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: even Tyler Boyd have at it. Yeah.

943
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I want to do there. And

944
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: again they I mean they're rushing now. One thing about Browning,

945
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: he wasn't afraid to run with the ball last week.

946
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had like forty yards I think.

947
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had forty yards rushing on four attempts. So

948
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: he will get out of the pocket and running. He's

949
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: not a plus athlete.

950
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about his profile. Is he a

951
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: good runner? It's like a four to seven guy. Ok

952
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: I mean I don't remember him being super athletic. Okay, again,

953
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: these are nickels. These are small potatoes though, I mean, Okay,

954
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: Irwin has a nice game, Boyd has a nice game.

955
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: As long as Mixing and Chase don't and Higgins isn't

956
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: on the field, and Browning ends up with forty yards rushing,

957
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 2: It's like fine, Yeah, I mean it's a couple first

958
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 2: downs here and there, but I don't think that's enough

959
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: to carry the offense.

960
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: Is this the game the Steelers finished with more offensive

961
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: yards that might be.

962
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: One of my bold predictions. Yeah, yeah, that I think

963
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: that's really sets up that way.

964
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they would have had it last week. They

965
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: were up by like fifty yards.

966
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: Going into that final drive. Yeah that the Browns head,

967
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: this's goets. Happened to it twice now, right, yeah, a

968
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: couple of times.

969
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: Now where the other team's got to me, it's the

970
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: most meaningless statistic though in the history. Like, I don't

971
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: care whether the other team finishes with more yards than

972
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: my team. I just care that they finished with more points.

973
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: Well, that's I mean to back that up, I think

974
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: that I don't even know if the NFL does this.

975
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: Number one offense in the league is one that scored

976
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 2: has the most yardage. That's not the best offense. It's

977
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: not the best offense, right.

978
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: That's if you turn a ball over a bunch of times.

979
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 2: Or you can't put teams away with a run game,

980
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: or you know, right, if you're just throwing all the time.

981
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: Buffaloes didn't fire its offensive coordinator because they were third

982
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: in the league in total offense, which they were, which

983
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: they were right at the time of his firing. They

984
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: fired them because they were turning the ball over too much.

985
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: That might be sure, you need to be fired, but whatever.

986
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: So No, I think this sets up extremely well for

987
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: the Steelers and it's a game they have to have

988
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: if they got to have one. I'm very concerned about

989
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: the rest of the season.

990
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say this, if they win for the

991
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: next five mm hmm, they're in good shape. Oh they are,

992
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: they are so, but you gotta have the you know,

993
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: it's got to be for the next five. If you

994
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: win all five, great, Yeah, because.

995
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: You lose this one. I'm not looking at them that

996
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: they can beat anybody, right, you got to you know.

997
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: That's that makes it that that's a that's a tough

998
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: leap of faith.

999
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean show me that you beat this team

1000
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: that sets up well for you to beat, then I'm

1001
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 2: on board that you should win for the next five.

1002
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: That's the type of team you are, and do it

1003
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: somewhat convincingly.

1004
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: Shut this offense down, take advantage of what's You're not

1005
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: playing Cleveland's defense this week. That excuse is out the window.

1006
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: That's that's I think it's more than an excuse. It's true,

1007
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: but that's that's not who you're playing this week. Right. Yeah,

1008
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be a here on Monday. Well, yeah,

1009
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 2: but they're you know, change is really good.

1010
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: No, beat this team, yeah, beat this this wounded animal

1011
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: and complete more passes and complete more passes. If they

1012
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: do that, if they complete more passes, I feel pretty

1013
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: good about their chances.

1014
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: Complete more passes the rest of the year.

1015
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: Well, they had fifteen completed passes last week. Yeah, I

1016
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: think if they have sixteen completed passes this week, they

1017
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: should be in better shape.

1018
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't expect a lot of passing attempts. I

1019
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: don't either.

1020
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: I think I think you just kind of but I

1021
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: want more quality. I don't want a bunch of checkdowns,

1022
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: a lot.

1023
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: Of checkdowns and the flats and everything outside the numbers

1024
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: and no, I agree.

1025
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also don't know that I want to

1026
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: see the middle of the field challenged like crazy with

1027
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: those two line back.

1028
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: Pasters are good. Yeah, so they have good players on defense.

1029
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: I don't know why their defense is so bad.

1030
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get it either. It doesn't add up.

1031
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: But I know they don't have a good quarterback this week,

1032
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: and you have to take advantage of that and the

1033
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: run stuff.

1034
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: You got to be able to run the football and

1035
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: complete more passes. Here we go. That'll do it for

1036
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Speaker 2: today's show.

1037
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Speaker 1: And yeah, happy Thanksgiving to all of our listeners out there,

1038
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: all the Steeler fans out there, we appreciate you. We

1039
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: love that you enjoy the show. We love that you

1040
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: listen to the show. We even love it when you

1041
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: critique the show. That's fine, it's all good. But for

1042
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site

1043
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Speaker 1: keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lalli. We thank

1044
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